Mark Bell's Power Project - Our Seasonal Nutrition Protocol (Spring 2024) || MBPP Ep. 1053

Episode Date: April 3, 2024

In episode 1053, Mark Bell, Nsima Inyang, and Andrew Zaragoza talk about some recent changes to their diet and how they will make slight adjustments as the seasons change.   Official Power Project Website: https://powerproject.live Join The Power Project Discord: https://discord.gg/yYzthQX5qN Subscribe to the Power Project Clips Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UC5Df31rlDXm0EJAcKsq1SUw   Special perks for our listeners below!   🍆  Natural Sexual Performance Booster 🍆 ➢https://usejoymode.com/discount/POWERPROJECT Use code: POWERPROJECT to save 20% off your order!   🚨 The Best Red Light Therapy Devices and Blue Blocking Glasses On The Market! 😎 ➢https://emr-tek.com/ Use code: POWERPROJECT to save 20% off your order!   👟 BEST LOOKING AND FUNCTIONING BAREFOOT SHOES 🦶 ➢https://vivobarefoot.com/powerproject   🥩 HIGH QUALITY PROTEIN! 🍖 ➢ https://goodlifeproteins.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save up to 25% off your Build a Box ➢ Piedmontese Beef: https://www.CPBeef.com/ Use Code POWER at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $150   🩸 Get your BLOODWORK Done! 🩸 ➢ https://marekhealth.com/PowerProject to receive 10% off our Panel, Check Up Panel or any custom panel, and use code POWERPROJECT for 10% off any lab!   Sleep Better and TAPE YOUR MOUTH (Comfortable Mouth Tape) 🤐 ➢ https://hostagetape.com/powerproject to receive a year supply of Hostage Tape and Nose Strips for less than $1 a night!   🥶 The Best Cold Plunge Money Can Buy 🥶 ➢ https://thecoldplunge.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save $150!!   Self Explanatory 🍆 ➢ Enlarging Pumps (This really works): https://bit.ly/powerproject1 Pumps explained:      ➢ https://withinyoubrand.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save 15% off supplements!   ➢ https://markbellslingshot.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save 15% off all gear and apparel!   Follow Mark Bell's Power Project Podcast ➢ https://www.PowerProject.live ➢ https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast ➢ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/markbellspowerproject   FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢https://www.tiktok.com/@marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell   Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ UNTAPPED Program - https://shor.by/untapped ➢YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/NsimaInyang ➢Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/?hl=en ➢TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nsimayinyang?lang=en   Follow Andrew Zaragoza & Get Podcast Guides, Courses and More ➢ https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz   #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell #FitnessPodcast #markbellspowerproject

How have your diets been like changing? I guess the biggest difference is there's a keto brick at the end of every night, which is a thousand calories. And then what happened with that and part of the reason why I don't think I've gained weight is now the output is better. I haven't had coffee in a bit. Maybe I'll have it once a week. It feels like a good weapon when you deprive yourself of it for a little bit. It hits you different when you haven't had it in a while. Are you guys still eating like fatty cuts of meat?

Hell yeah. I've been eating a lot of fish lately. Canned mackerel out of the can, it tastes really good. Winter months, I start to eat a bit more. Always happens as it starts to get warmer is I start to eat less food. Does that happen with you guys? Seems like my taste buds change a little bit

when it gets warmer out. When the sun's out, I tend to want like sweeter stuff. I want more fruit, stuff like that. Want more carbs, I guess. And then in the winter time, seems like I care a little bit less about that. I was watching some Olympic stuff the other day. They had all these sprinters on and stuff.

And Andy's like, oh, she's like, look at these girls. She's like, they're incredible. And I'm just trying to set up. Yeah, I'm like, don't say anything. Don't say anything. And then she's like looking up their Instagrams and stuff. She's like, oh, my God. She's like, look at this girl's ass. Dangerous. And i don't i'm like i'm not sure maybe because it's maybe

because all the running like it builds up their butt i'm just pretending i have no idea that i haven't scrolled through all of their instagrams that's okay builds a glue it's what you're like like that hit my feet last week are we gonna start there? Yeah, I think so. Good. Not with what I said before. No, no, no.

Just right there. Right there. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. Just unleash all those. There's one girl like at Lil Runner or something. Don't check her stuff out.

Nope. No, don't look it up. You said Lil, L-I-L Runner? I think that's what it is. Yeah. Bruh. Why are you doing this? I don't want to.

Nope. Anyway. Over here trying to tell people to clean up their feeds. It's interesting. Like there was one girl. She won, I think she won like 400 meter. And like all these girls were like jacked. And this girl was not jacked at all. She just was like athletic looking.

She looked great. But she was younger and she was just like fit. And I was like, how does she generate enough force to kick the shit out of all the other runners? Because, I mean, it does take a lot of power and strength. So it was kind of interesting. But the girl that won the mile, she was ripped and she was jacked. And when she got her gold medal, you know what they handed over to her? Her one-year-old baby.

And I was like, damn and i was like damn i was like she pops out a baby and then comes to this uh it was like world championships or whatever and she won what a beast i never find out who she is i was amazing yeah maybe i don't know maybe you could look up the yeah olympic world championships or whatever i'll have to check that out i saw that noah lyles everyone made a big deal lost, but he lost in the 60 meter. He doesn't normally run 60 meters. I find it great how you're talking really positively about these women's efforts and what they've been able to do. And it's amazing.

I'm not sliding into that Coach Greg domain. if y'all haven't seen that video, Greg is under some heat because he's talking about the bikini at the Arnold, uh, at the, uh, Arnold pro show bikini category. And he was just like, smash,

smash all of them. Is that on his Instagram? I don't know where it is. I saw it on Reddit. I think it's important as a man that you just never really let women know how disgusting you really are. You know, just maybe a little bit,

maybe you can't help yourself and you hint at it here and there, but just never tell them all the way. It's not good for you. Not a good look for any of us. They might be hot, but let's just talk about how physically gifted they are. You know what I mean? Like, wow, look at her glute-ham tie-in. Right.

I bet you she can do like 225 for sets of eight on the stiff leg deadlift. Right. You know what I mean? Exactly. It's complimentary of double body weight. I bet you she can do like 225 for sets of eight on the stiff leg deadlift. Right? You know what I mean? Exactly. It's complimentary of- Double body weight. We know what we're talking about. But it's true.

She can probably do 225 for eight. There's no reason to think about it any further than that. Exactly. And if you do, you're an animal. And there's no reason you should be on the internet talking about any of this stuff. Gross. Leave the sport. Leave the sport.

Speaking of stuff that's gross, what's going on with this sourdough bread? Everyone's making sourdough bread to try to be fit. I think that was a thing during COVID too. Let's make some sourdough. I think it's just something to do. And by the way, Melvin's going to bring me a sourdough starter

the next time he comes in. Oh, that's great. There we go. This... I was just going to say real quick, this's great. There we go. This. Authentic sound. I was just going to say real quick, this guy, people should check out his Instagram. What's his Instagram, Andrew? Oh, man, that's so far. Maybe even Seema can see it or something. You think I can see that?

I don't know. I'll figure it out. It's superhuman vision. Anyway, this guy's Instagram is awesome. He just tests his blood sugar with all kinds of different foods. He just tests his blood sugar with all kinds of different foods. And just to give people a little bit of brief information, like don't think that just because something spikes your blood sugar that it makes you fat. That's like the worst thing that people could think.

It's not true. It's just some foods tend food spikes my blood sugar because in SEMA or something like that could have eaten something early in the day that makes it have a different glycemic index and so forth. So don't get too startled about it. It's just information, but it is interesting. Is that from the original Terry Blacks? Yeah, my brother picked it up for me. He went to Texas. Oh, man.

But not the duplicate Terry Blacks or whatever the story was behind that. You guys remember? I don't know. Yeah, somebody went rogue and started their own version of the story was behind that. You guys remember? I don't know. Yeah, somebody went rogue and started their own version of it or something like that. Oh, wow. Yeah. Anyway. Terry Blacks 2.0. Yeah.

All right. Anyway. Sourdough bread to see what it does to my blood sugar. So apparently a lot of the sourdough breads that you may find in a supermarket are not actually authentic simply because they use commercial yeast to leaven the bread. Authentic sourdough breads that are usually made at a bakery don't use that yeast. Instead, they use fermented flour and water. And during that fermentation process, some of the starches are eaten by the bacteria, giving this authentic sourdough bread a better glycemic index. And therefore, it should be easier on my blood sugar. I'm really curious to see if

this is true or not. Let's see what this one does to my blood sugar. All right, it's been a couple of hours since I've had the sourdough. Before we look at the results, let's compare this to the 75 grams of white bread. Here, the blood sugar spike went up by 42 milligrams. Now, this is 75 grams of the fake sourdough bread. This also went up by 42 milligrams. And now let's look at today's results with the authentic sourdough bread. And this is kind of disappointing. This one went up by 41 milligrams, which is pretty much the same as the others. So unfortunately for me, this authentic sourdough bread did not meet up to all the hype.

That's why it's so important to monitor your blood sugar if you are concerned. Remember that individual results will vary. Stay tuned for more. That's pretty funny. All you people eating that sourdough just getting fatter and fatter by the second. That's so sad. It's like you're like, oh, this is so much better. It probably is maybe better nutritionally.

Maybe it has better macros. I don't know. It could be better for other reasons too. I mean, maybe if it is like actually sour and maybe it is feeding your gut bacteria, maybe it's helping with digestion of other foods or something like that. Yeah, it's supposed to. And then also like what he was talking about, like I forgot what, oh man, it just skipped, it lost my thought, but it was in regards to the yeast.

Yeah, fermented flour and water. Yeah, the ones that like they're not even supposed to have any or they're not – there's a lot of bullshit on the market. And when I was looking at it, I was like, oh, let me just find one that I like. And then I went and looked at the label and I'm like, oh, these are all fake. This is just bread that happens to taste like sourdough bread. But Sacramento Bakery, which you can get at Costco, makes one that's like yeast-free and it's like legit. It's really, really good. But as we've seen, like you're just eating bread.

I would say that bread is like fair game, especially for people that want to eat some carbohydrates. I mean, I don't see a big problem with it. I think you might want to take into account like what are you eating with the bread? That's where we might get into some trouble that's where you might have like you know if you're having a bun and you're having a cheeseburger and you know now you're having something that's i don't know 800 calories or something like that then and you're trying to be on a diet you're trying to lose weight it might make it difficult but if you're having like a couple pieces of bread i mean that's been as old as i could remember in the bodybuilding magazines, you know, even in the 80s, 90s.

They would talk about these bodybuilders having breakfast. They would have oatmeal, which is bullshit according to Paul Saladino. They would have oatmeal. A lot of times they would have some egg whites. Maybe they would have a couple full eggs. And they would have toast. I mean it's very routine and I don't think there's anything wrong with bread. However, if you're someone that has struggled

with your diet in the past and you, you know, is bread gonna lead you down a dark path later on that day because you're already like, well, I already ate this and you don't really have a lot of rules or laws with your diet, then that could lead you down a slippery slope. Quantity. That's a big thing to think about there, quantity.

But how have your diets been changing? What have you been doing recently? Because we haven't talked about that in a bit, and I think we're all doing a few things. Well, so for me, I have been working on this journey for kind of a long time of leaning out. And I did get stuck around a 240-ish pound weight for a long time, 240, 245. Even when I ran the Boston Marathon, fueled up for the race, I was about 240, which was just way too heavy to try to lug around for that far. When you say leaning out, like you're also, you don't just mean losing body fat, right?

Are you also trying to lose some muscle? I'm mainly just trying to lose body fat. Mainly, okay. Yeah, I'm mainly trying to lose body fat. And so anyway, I sort of got to the end of that road for me. Maybe somebody else could get a lot leaner. But for me, it's like I just have reduced, reduced, reduced, and just got to a point where my appetite started to get dysregulated.

I started being a little bit too hungry. And I was like, you know what? Let's just – I said, let me just give it a couple days and let me just eat a little bit more food. And that didn't work. And I'm like, let me give it a little bit more time than that. So right now, I'm on like, I don't know, maybe about the third week or so of just eating more. And my body weight hasn't really changed a lot.

What's that now? I was 225 this morning. Okay. So that's like, that's interesting, right? Because I am eating more and I should, I mean, in my opinion, I should probably be up over 230 already because I've been eating. But the choices have been mainly protein choices, have been trying to keep the decisions still within range of what I normally do. I guess the biggest difference is there's a keto brick at the end of every night, which is a thousand calories. Every night? Every night, yeah. Sometimes two keto bricks. Depends on the night. Depends on how crazy I want to get. But I think it's important for people to, and this is

like dangerous for some people that, again, maybe have really struggled with their diet, but I think it's important for people to – and this is like dangerous for some people that, again, maybe have really struggled with their diet. But I think it's important for some people just to let go of the rules a little bit, let go of the restrictions. You still probably want some restrictions because then you're going to gain like 10 pounds or something real quick. But for me, I'm like, let me give myself some calories for a little while. And then what happened with that and part of the reason why I don't think I've gained weight, is now the output is better. Now I'm not just running super slow. I'm starting to work on running a little faster. I'm doing sprints.

I'm doing jumps. I'm more excited to train. And the training sessions are maybe a little shorter, but it feels awesome. Yeah. Do you do any sort of like a time restriction or fasting of any type anymore? At the moment? Uh, the, the only time, the only time restriction that I might have is like through the middle of the day. Okay. So like you eat in the morning, middle of the day, you don't eat much and then you eat a meal in the evening. Okay, cool. Yeah.

It's almost every day. I would say like maybe once or twice a week i just wake up and just have a protein shake with with my coffee um and i also switched to decaf that's something new i know that you i think have gotten rid of caffeine as well right yeah i haven't had a like actually after talking to dom i kind of like loosen the reins i'll have i haven't had coffee in a bit um but before he was here, I really wasn't drinking coffee at all. I did that for like maybe a month or a month and a half, but now maybe I'll have it once a week, depending on like, if I feel like I didn't sleep much last night or something, for some reason, and I have a podcast. It feels like a good weapon when you

haven't, uh, when you deprive yourself of it for a little bit, it hits you different when you haven't had it. Whereas if you're chronically drinking it, like you, it's, you get into the habit of needing it to be able to perform, to do what you got to do. So it's, that has actually been really nice. Like I can get by all day with just some tea,

you know, but decaf, I can actually feel decaf coffee. It probably is placebo because decaf has a minimal amount of caffeine, but that taste dog of like the fills, I think it's called Lucas's is unplugged whenever i have that it's so good it's like i want a nut right there it's crazy but i made a decaf uh espresso this morning by accident i just hit the wrong button i just wasn't paying attention what does that mean decaf espresso that's what i was thinking i was like

what does that mean i guess my coffee maker you know it makes it makes uh americanos basically which is you have the same shit right jura similar yeah yeah which is basically uh it's just espresso and water you know so okay an americano is the same thing it's just extra water but i hit the button and i'm like why did i just make a non caffeinated espresso it kind of really defeats mean, you're already defeating the purpose of coffee, but it gets even worse when you get into something like espresso. Do you want it funnier? Join the club, Andrew. What do you mean? The decaffeinated club.

I'm kind of like, I honestly am kind of already there. Because of your soda thing, right? Yeah. So again, removing artificial sweeteners, I just have less stuff. And one of those things was like monsters and whatnot but even without that uh so now when i wake up i used well before when i would wake up i would just jump right into caffeine and now that i'm not having like artificial sweeteners i'm waking up and just having some electrolytes and then i just kind of go about my day so like even today i had

electrolytes went to jujitsu and I didn't have anything, any caffeine until I got back when I had it with some protein and coffee for breakfast. But that's like all I'm going to have for the rest of the day. Now, if I didn't do that, I would have some green tea. Like I've been, I've been diving into that because I've been loving, like an excuse to put honey on everything. And that's just one of those many things that I can use it for. But yeah, so I've, I've, I've cut out, I would say more than half of my caffeine consumption over the past, I don't know, like six months or so. How much do you think you were having before when you were having like the diet sodas and stuff? Like how much do you think it was? Well, it was within right within waking up about a hundred milligrams or 120 milligrams.

And then again with breakfast, so like two shots of espresso. So I'm not sure what that is. And then I'd get here and I'd grab a Monster. So, and that was like a daily thing. That's like 350. Yeah. It's bad when you're not thinking about it. Like I know you've been mindful of it for the last couple of years, but it's really

some bad news when you're just like, it's just in your hand and you're like, oh my God, I'm drinking it again. And that was one of those things where I would get, you know, I'd get to the gym and I would just like, you know, passing by the break room. It's like, yeah, I got to stop here to grab, you know, a monster and then head back and start working on stuff. And it was just, one, it was routine, but also I made the excuse of, well, caffeine makes me work better. So I need this because I need to perform better. The thing is, it's like, because you drink it so much, it actually does help you work better so i i need this because i need to perform better so the thing is it's like because you drink it so much it actually does help you work right yes because you need yes

absolutely the the the problem is is like that that hamster wheel like you never you never catch up you never catch up to the energy right because you're tired now okay i need to take this because i need energy but then you get up here and you quickly run back to the bottom. You're like, shit, I need another one. You just keep going. And now that I've slowed down, it's like I'm kind of just like mellowed out. Like again, like when I cut out caffeine completely, I was always pretty low. And I would just hang out here versus with caffeine.

It would skyrocket and then it would plummet. Right now, I'm kind of like, okay, a little bump from caffeine and I'm just like hanging out here. And the cool thing is I actually have more sustained energy throughout the rest of the day. Because that was my biggest thing is when we would be done podcasting, I'd fall asleep on the way home. Like I would just be like dozing off behind the wheel. And that's like the worst thing you could ever do. That's worse than like that causes more accidents and deaths than drunk driving. So that was really bad. Now that's, I'm not saying i'm

like fucking jumping around everywhere but i'm wait like i'm awake you know and so like that was like one of the reasons why i dove into all of this diet stuff recently was because i want to maintain energy throughout the day and i think cutting out a majority of my calf well at least half of my caffeine is a big reason for that yeah i think uh honey is super underrated like as a sweetener it's like uh so good it's also so easy to even even sugar like i know like some of the recommendations sometimes people are probably like what the fuck these guys recommend like everything and then you're on a diet where you're sort of including fat and carbs and all kinds of stuff but if you can use some sugar responsibly,

it's not a bad, it's not a bad thing. Like if you're traveling and you don't like sweet and low and some of those other weird sweeteners, you don't want to put weird shit in your coffee. Just a little bit of sugar goes a long way. Phil's coffee, actually, they, I think the only sweetener, maybe they'll use other sweeteners if you ask them, but I think they only use honey. They have honey as an option when you get on DoorDash. They have something else too, but like, yeah. Oh my gosh, I'm going there. Yeah, they use honey in their coffee.

And then you kind of think about it like, well, tea is usually sweetened with honey. So why couldn't you sweeten coffee with it? I think we just kind of, I don't know, just forget about it. And then people are so concerned about the carbs, but a couple grams of carbs here and there is not going to really, it shouldn't throw your diet off. If your exercise and stuff is intact, it should just be a little bit of extra energy calories.

Yeah, it was super concerning when I stopped and thought about how every single thing that I consumed contained artificial sweeteners. From the second I woke up to the first thing I drank, the first thing I ate, everything, everything I drank, everything I consumed had artificial sweeteners in it. And I'm not saying they're good or bad. I was just thinking like, I don't know, man, too much of anything's supposed to be bad, right? Like that's kind of what we say. And I know the studies, everything says, oh no, like artificial sweeteners are totally fine.

We don't, we're not a Petri dish. And so we're okay. You know, that's what Lane Norton will say. And he's right, right? Because everything proves it. But maybe that's part of why I have more energy now, right? Maybe that's another part of it. Maybe that's another part of why like my stomach doesn't hurt when I drink milk.

I don't know if we'll ever be able to like make that correlation or whatever but for some reason the more natural approach i have to my diet the better i feel yeah yeah he and danny he thinks it's uh that's why like with his eaas and stuff like that's why he doesn't use artificial sweeteners he thinks it's kind of a gut bomb he thinks it's like just negative towards your like gut health and so therefore he doesn't mess with it joel green is another one that doesn't really like artificial stuff um you know joel's big on like fiber and fruits and uh he's got a new book out people should check it out but joel is amazing and i can't wait to have him back on the on the show again but i think to your point about just like energy,

I think that, and we've talked about this on the show before, but we have this thought that like, if we're going to go do something that it's going to like, uh, make us more tired, it's going to like cost us energy. And it's weird because the feeling is quite opposite the feeling. I don't know exactly what happens. I don't know what happens scientifically. But when you go and run or you go and do jujitsu or you go and lift some weights, you feel like, you feel electrical. You feel like that you're producing energy, that you're in the middle of making energy. And I think that's exactly what's happening. But for some reason, when you're tired and when you're cold and you're warm under your blankets and stuff, the last thing you want to do is like go and start to do some of these things because this thing that you're doing at the moment is super comfortable. But the more that you lay there and the more that you stay in a dark room and the more that you're – your mood and things like that, it's not going to be improved.

your mood and things like that, it's not going to be improved. Like it's really rare for your mood to be improved by just laying down and doing nothing unless you're stressed and unless you're intentionally maybe like meditating or something. But this idea that, you know, we always need food for energy or we need this or we need that for energy. A lot of times if you just go and do something, it seems to make energy. It feels that way. You know, every quarter I've been, so like it was a few days ago when Sam was over at the Arnold Amateur and my girl just got her IFBB Pro card.

So congratulations, Sam. That's unbelievable. That's fucking wild. Yeah, yeah. She's an IFBB Pro. And she can hold that over my head. If we go anywhere and someone's like, one of us is an IFBB Pro,

who is it? And it's this little white girl next to me. It's like, it's kind of funny. But how, like, is, sorry, I don't mean to derail anything, but like, is that a common thing to where like, let's say, let's look in the future. Let's just play this all out. Yeah. You guys are married.

You have kids. Yeah. Your kid can look up and be like, yeah, both my parents have their pro card. That's gotta be really rare, right? Probably. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. That's fucking cool, dude. Congrats. Congrats, Sam. You fucking killed it. But, um, I did like a, I did kind of a 48 hour fast when she was gone. Um, I do that again. I do that once a quarter. I aim because your heart was broken. She wasn't around, you know, I didn't have anybody to feed you. What are those salads?

I'm trying to make it romantic. You didn't leave any Lunchables. I didn't know what to do. You know, Doug, you know, she actually made me a bunch of meat before she left. But no, because it's great. Put this in the microwave. No, because like once a quarter, I'll usually do that because like apparently there are some benefits to like a prolonged fast. I don't do it often, but I decided, okay, this is a quarter, I'll usually do that because apparently there are some benefits to a prolonged fast.

I don't do it often, but I decided, okay, this is a good time. It's a low week. But I got some jujitsu in. I got some training in. I got some swimming in. Periodically, I had some electrolytes. I did have some fruit here and there, but not much. It was pretty sporadic.

But I was really surprised. Every time I do that, I'm surprised. I'm like, wow, okay. But I was really surprised. Every time I do that, I'm surprised. Like, wow, okay. After you get past like the first 18 hours, right? You wake up the next day.

It's kind of like you're then just like zoned in, right? When I went to jujitsu, I could feel a little cramping happening here and there. So I drank more electrolytes, but it was fine. I got through the whole session feeling good. I didn't get gassed or anything. And it's like, it's like you feel, I don't know, refreshed in a sense. It's weird. Like it's all the information that I had, any type of like, just kind of weird spots I had just kind of dissipated. Um, and it's, it's, it's, I think it's a fun thing to try once a quarter, not something you do all the time or every single week, but it's, it's,

I think it's useful. And not something you would use to like, Oh, I got to lose three pounds. No, but it did like lean me out quite a bit. Because you're jacked. But, you know, think about this. It's fun too, in a way. Yeah. It's like rewarding in a way. Exactly.

But think about this. You're not having many calories, but you're also doing activity. Because I still got some lifts in. I still got two sessions of jiu-jitsu in. So it's like that's why I did look a lot leaner. And I started eating again. And I put a little bit of body'm back to – I'm actually leaner than when I started. So that wasn't – the intention though wasn't to cut. But for people that do want to utilize some fasting for leaning out, I think it's a great tool.

You're seeing – you just see all this pushback and you're hearing a lot of people not doing it at the moment. It's probably because a lot of us did it for a while and then maybe it ran its course and now we're just doing something slightly different. But, you know, I mentioned to you earlier that I currently I'm not fasting, but like maybe as of like three months ago, I was still utilizing some regular fast here and there. I do still use it though. Yeah, I still, yeah, I'll still do it uh occasionally i also think that like if somebody really did want to like lean out a bunch i think you could just have a day where you just don't eat every saturday or every friday you pick a day and you just you fast that day and it's a

reduction in the overall amount of food that you ate it will help i know some people use that strategy and it can be super effective but get back to your regularly scheduled program the next day. Don't go the next day and eat extra because you didn't eat the day before. You're going to offset. Yeah. But that's the thing with fasting. You have to pretend that didn't happen. Yeah.

If you're trying to utilize it to get leaner. So that's perfect. That's what I was going to ask. So like on, let's say it's that Friday. Does that person then, I'm fasting. I'm not going to go work out. I'm not going to do my walks like I normally do on my lunch break or whatever. Like, do they change anything other than not consuming food? I would say if it's just for a day, I think you're fine. I think you can, you can do whatever you

want. It starts to get in like two days or five days. You might want to consider the intensity or how long you're going to go do something. Wouldn't be a good time to like bust out a 20 mile run or something like that, you know? So maybe a little caution. Yeah. But I think it is a cool, I think it's what somebody could try, because I think one of the things that trips people out and it tripped me out when I started fasting in like 2017 was the idea of being able to perform without having food in your system from eating right before your workout. But I think one of the cool things that you'll learn is like, from eating right before your workout. But I think one of the cool things that you'll learn is like, wow, you can still have a good workout if you didn't eat that morning or you didn't eat right before your workout. Because again, those two days where I wasn't eating and I was still getting in

workouts, I was still going to jujitsu. I was like, I still feel pretty damn good. I'm not fucking destroyed. I'm not feeling like death. I can still roll even though I haven't eaten in a day. Right. Um, it's just, I think your tolerance for that increases and it's, it's, you know, I think there is energy on our body and your body will use it. Yeah. You know, can you guys tell me if this is like a good or bad thing? But I agree. I have, I still have a lot of energy on my body. You know, I'm somewhere around 12 to 15% body fat, which I'm super happy about. I love the fact that I've been able to maintain this for a long time. But throughout the day, if I don't eat like my second meal, which is what I've kind of been implementing, I can actually feel myself get skinnier. And what I mean is my, so right now my ring fits me. And so I know like, okay, I'm still plump. I'm still fed off of what I mean is my, so right now my ring fits me. And so I know like, okay, I'm, I'm still plump. I'm still fed off of what I ate for breakfast. If I don't eat within the next four hours or whatever, I could just go like this and my ring falls right off of me.

Throughout the day, this sounds like such a mean thing or like just shitty thing to say, because I know a lot of people struggle with weight loss. If I don't eat, I can literally feel myself getting thinner. Does that mean I just water baby? Yeah. So like glycogen, what is that? And like, is that good or bad? It's glycogen. Like, like if you were to have a super carby meal, right. You'll legit, like a few hours later, your ring will be a little bit more snug. And if you were to like move a little bit, you'd pump up super easily. But if you weren't to have carbs for like the whole day, by the time you get to the end of the day, like if you were having water and electrolytes and stuff, you'd probably be pretty lean or your ring would fall off your finger because of lack of like glycogen. That's literally all it is.

It's just water. It's not like body fat. Yeah. That's what I wanted to preface that by saying, like, look, I still have tons of energy, but like what's going on here where it's like I can feel and see and have proof that like, yeah, I'm a little bit skinnier than I was this morning. I think when you're an athlete and you're moving around quite a bit, it's probably fairly common, especially if you're eating carbohydrates, to have maybe an extra – it depends on your body weight. carbohydrates to have maybe an extra of, it depends on your body weight. It's a percentage thing. But for me personally, it'd be like three to five, probably six to seven pounds, probably somewhere in that range. If I'm eating carbohydrates, if I'm not eating carbohydrates, that's why when I said I ran the Boston Marathon, weighed about 240 and I think I said fueled, that just means that like I ate intentionally knowing that I'm going to go this distance. I didn't want to be without that fuel while I was running. So I ate my fats, you know,

in advance, I ate my carbs in advance and even like during and stuff like that. And so I think one of the problems that people get themselves into though, is that people can get really bloated. If you remember my power lifting days, that was sort of like an intentional bloat. Like let's fucking max everything out as much as we can. And that bloat and that stiffness was actually like a good thing when I went to bench press or when I went to get ready for a squat,

that pressure that I was able to build up. Did you really need three chins for that though? No, no, I didn't need the third or the fourth or the fifth chin. I didn't need any of any of that all right but what some people might notice uh when you're like in andrew's position where you're uh you feel like you're kind of withering away yes you tend to feel like a little colder i was you took the words right i was gonna say i get cold yeah and sometimes your blood pressure might be because it depends on the person but your blood pressure might be low as the reverse of that person, but your blood pressure might be low.

The reverse of that is that you run hotter. You're kind of always sweaty. But what I was going to say is like a lot of people that have not really looked into their diet are just walking around with probably a lot of men. Again, it's a percentage thing. I'm just going to throw out a number, like 8 to 12 pounds I would say. Probably just walking around with an extra 8 to 12 pounds of just like fluff on them. And that's kind of almost before you even get into like being on a really low carb diet. Like if you just kind of clean your diet up, you get rid of a little bit of carbohydrates,

a lot of people would lose probably eight to 10 pounds. And then they would probably be able to lose another four or five pounds, which would be kind of water weight if they went really low carb. And that would just be temporary. Second, you eat the carbs back, you'll, you'll gain some of that water weight back. Yeah.

I was going to ask because I, I will get really, really cold. And so I'm like, dude, am I like getting frail? And like, gonna like, if the wind blows,

am I done for, you know, like cold as fuck when you're real hungry like that. Yeah then i'm like is like getting cold like this right because like you know i'll be just like i am now but as i get hungry i'll just start shaking and shit and so i'm like does that mean i'm gonna get sick like it just i don't know it's just stuff that's i'm just trying to dive a little bit deeper and and stop ignoring like i'm fine well getting getting cold will help you to like liberate, it should help you to liberate fat. I do think that we're all a little bit different so that some people, maybe their

system isn't as efficient. And so maybe they don't get to do that. Maybe their body like does something slightly different, but the sun, the cold, these are things that can help with energy production. So it's not like you can just like breathe the air and just get cold and just get sunlight without food. That would be, that would not be a good idea. But when you are talking about like really short-term fast, or you're talking about energy production in the short term, I think there's things that we can do in a day to kind of manipulate how the body uses energy and the body will use energy more efficiently. If you inject some carnitine, if you go outside and go for a walk, if you get some sunlight,

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for april and receive 25 off your entire order link is in the description as well as the podcast show notes are you guys still eating like fatty cuts of meat hell yeah yeah that never i don't know that that's never stopped and that that'll never stop um i have like i've been varying the meats up quite a bit though, like getting some stuff from Good Life, got some salmon in there, ribeyes, different types of cuts of steak,

got some picanha in there too. And because again, this isn't original to be, but my girl's been cooking some, right? So when stuffing peppers and fucking using the stiff on, like using the shit on potatoes, she's been,

because I've been talking to her about us getting more vegetables and stuff and here and there i would actually cook some vegetables but i wasn't as diligent with it um i get lazy with it and i like just drink it at some point but like she's been like adding in brussels sprouts and mushrooms and all this shit into the food and it's been it's been great like again i have no problems digesting any of the you know some people choose to go carnivore because they do have issues digesting some of this food. But I don't, and I just see that as being beneficial for my gut.

The more diverse food I can handle without it causing any type of wreckage, the better off I'll be. So that stuff has just been pretty beneficial, pretty good, and it tastes great. Yeah, I'm trying to figure that side of it out still, the vegetables. Because if I have Brusselsussels sprouts man dude like the whole neighborhood smells like i can't stop farting let me ask you like how much do you uh like how much do you cook

it do when you eat it is it still hard uh so and then that's the other thing is maybe i'm not cooking it right so i'm just getting the stuff that's like in the bag and you steam it and then you can throw butter all over it and stuff. Like that's pretty much it. I haven't like done anything outside of like super basic cooking. Because if you try cooking it for a while and like, and by the time you end up eating it and chewing it and it's actually kind of soft, that could help it digest better because if you're eating Brussels sprouts and it's crunchy. Yeah, no, it's never been crunchy, but, but I mean, I'm also not cooking it for very long either. But that sort of thing, I am trying to implement more vegetables. Like literally like one plate of vegetables a day is 100% more than what I was eating.

So I have a lot of improvement to make at a super low barrier of entry. But I have been leaning more towards the lean cuts and even having egg whites and stuff. And this just comes, you know, we were just talking about this recently about like influencers and getting our information from multiple sources and who to trust. But, um, we had the, uh, the vegan, uh, Simon Hill and then Stan Efferding, you know, back to back, both of them talking about like, yeah, like it might be a good idea to not like have such a high cholesterol. And then, uh, Sean Baker, same thing, you know, like he was saying about like, yeah, like it might be a good idea to not like have such a high cholesterol. And then Sean Baker, same thing, you know, like he was saying stuff like, okay, if you have high cholesterol, I'm not going to just be blind to it and say, no, keep eating fattier cuts of meat.

And I happen to have higher cholesterol and my dad had triple heart bypass surgery because he had high cholesterol. And then with the Dolce diet, you know, same thing. He's like, yeah, start having some turkey, start having having some egg whites and so that's what i've been doing and tell me i'm finding but i get turkey yeah especially with the turkey but man there's some some breakfast turkey sausage that's really really good oh yeah that shit that is turkey sausage and turkey bacon and stuff turkey bacon turkey pepperoni which is like very processed so it's different turkey that you're eating your ground turkey is it like 99 percent uh so i i was i was because that's a mistake i was tinkering with the idea right it's too much it's too lean okay yeah no i i was i i you know you're you're you're in the aisle you're looking it's like every layer that you go down or up whichever it's like you know 97 you know 98 99 i'm like

i know i'm gonna go with the 97 like i just i know this is gonna be difficult already so not difficult but like it's gonna be a change so let me just enjoy turkey as much as possible but that turkey sausage is really good so mixing that in with my my egg whites and two eggs as opposed to 10 is way better for breakfast for me right now. And it's been, you know, again, it's a change and I've been feeling pretty good, but I am feeling hungrier when I have the leaner stuff. We all understand that. Yeah. And it's just, that's one of the things that I need to get used to. The, um, 96% lean ground beef from Piedmontese. It's like 3.5 grams of fat per serving.

And there's four like per brick. So it's like, I don't know, 13 or 14 grams of fat or whatever. That's pretty modest considering that each block has like 100 grams of protein in it. Something like that. So that's just as lean as your turkey and it's easier to eat. You could also take that lean turkey and just mix it with like an 85% lean ground beef. And now you have, now you're like somewhere in the middle, right? Like now you have like a 90% lean, whatever the hell, turkey ground beef thingy.

And then add vegetables in, like what vegetables do you like? Do you have some vegetables that you uh man yeah like what'd you grow up eating that has like maybe some vegetables in it that's some corn in that bitch you know would say like yeah i mean is corn okay yeah any any vegetable corn peppers onions okay yeah so that's my thing is is i i really like peppers i do i do like that um i i will kind of get like a weird heartburn feeling but it's been a while since I've had a lot of them. What kind of peppers? Like bell peppers or spicy shit?

Yeah. I don't really like getting too deep into the spicy stuff. Just regular bell peppers. Nothing like spicy, but I would find myself later that day like burping them up. Like, you know, when you have onions and you're just like, you know, hours later, I still have like onions and i would have the same thing with bell peppers and that sort of thing i think you like especially i used to eat them raw though right uh no like cooked kind of like um fajitas i think that's how they like that yeah that's how i would eat them that's the same shit i'd say like i you probably already were so maybe this is a moot point but i would say again cook them cook them more. Cause again, I've noticed like some people, when they cook things like

onions or when they like, cause some people are like tag me in their stuffed bell peppers, their bell peppers still look like it's pretty hard. Like when we put those bell peppers into the air fryer, that bell pepper is in there for 25 minutes. When it comes out, it's soft. The pepper is not, it's not hard to the, it's not crunchy. It's soft. Yeah. And the meats like the oils have like kind of melted into the pepper and shit. So that makes it super easy to digest. Yeah. Like if you were to take a bite of like, say like a potato, I don't know if you guys ever

tried this before. You ever try to eat a raw potato? Just take a bite of it. They're gnarly. I mean, it tastes like you're eating like dirt. It's crazy. But once you cook it, I mean, the flavor changes, like everything about it changes. It's way. But once you cook it, I mean, the flavor changes. Like, everything about it changes.

It's way easier to eat. And then it's also way easier to digest. And you'll find the same thing with almost all vegetables. Yeah. Now that you mention it, I remember at the old spot, like, I would eat, like, a raw, just like an apple. Yeah. And people thought I was, like, psycho for it. An apple? Wait.

I would eat, just grab a bell pepper, just wash it off and just. Yeah, I love these. And I did enjoy it. But, I mean. psycho for it. An apple? Wait. Just grab a bell pepper, just wash it off and just crunch it. And I did enjoy it, but I mean. They're tasty. It was pretty good, but I would still like Bertland's a little earlier

that comes up again. So that, I mean, I'm having asparagus, which has been pretty cool. No, never. I'll never. Oh, God. Asparagus. I don't really like the green stuff that much like i don't like

much i don't like uh asparagus i don't like brussels sprouts like i could eat them i ate some broccoli last night but my wife made like a teriyaki beef thing so it was fucking awesome brussels sprouts can be great like it just depends on how you cook them. Put some bacon on that bitch. So with both of those, it's what they come accompanied with for me. So like asparagus comes with a hell of salt and some oils or something. And then Brussels sprouts, it's like I'm having like butter soup with some Brussels sprouts in it. So yeah. I wanted to say that we were talking about coffee earlier.

And what I've been doing with my decaf coffee is if I want to – it's kind of funny because I could just get regular coffee. But my wife and I both have decaf going. And so if I want to spike the coffee, I'll actually use Dom's Keto Spike and I'll throw the coffee thing in there. It's because this has a instant coffee in there. And then I'm also getting some ketones. So that's really good. And then Bubz also, those guys actually make a instant, they have an instant coffee mix that has a little bit of MCT oil powder in it. So sometimes I'll use that. Sometimes I'll use half. Sometimes I'll use the full thing. Just kind of depends on, you know, what result I'm looking for, but you can get a little zip or a little zing out of that stuff yeah i've been having bubs mct oil powder every day like that's what i put in my coffee but even the coffee's changed because

again not not having artificial sweeteners so i'm sweetening it with honey and then i'm having steak shake and then i'm throwing extra bubs you know in there and i'm using just regular whole milk i used to have cashew milk yeah and it's like okay yeah i'm cleaning up my diet and cleaning everything up and i'm like cashew milk's fine it's like dude like you can't milk a cashew but it would just come accompanied with additional ingredients that just like doesn't make sense why this is in my diet so just trying to get single ingredient things and it's like well hey let me let me try some milk you know and it's been coffee and milk is really good it is i don't know if you guys have ever had it you know you live in this world where it's like

no almond milk because of the low calories and unsweetened this unsweetened that and then you sweeten it back up with sucralose but then you have milk wow this is really good yeah well adds a little sweetness to it as well yeah so it's delicious i've been uh eating a lot of fish lately probably since uh since we had david herrera on the show um that's been a big influence on me and i just started having fish pretty much ever since he's he was here and so i'm really trying to go after the fish that have quite a bit of DHA in them and also trying to, I mean, you know, there's simple searches you can do with like Google,

you know, you can just look shit up occasionally. And I just kind of got a little bit more fascinated about vitamin D and I'm like, you know, I take these like vitamin D capsules, but like maybe this isn't the, you know, isn't maybe the best route. Like, let me look into this more. And I'm like, okay, well, what foods have vitamin D?

What foods have vitamin A? What foods have zinc? What foods have copper? And most of the time, the foods that have some of those vitamins are foods that a lot of times a lot of people don't like, like liver, mackerel, salmon, oysters, all these kinds of things. But I've been including all that. It's actually really easy mackerel. I was, I just really never been exposed to it before and maybe until the last couple of years, but, um, canned mackerel is fucking awesome. It's good. Um, it's going to sound gross, but it has like, it has like the skin

on it and it's just in water and out of the can it tastes really good which i i was kind of i like fish you know i got to kind of preface it with that um and i i do understand why people don't like fish i get it like the texture can be weird and stuff like that don't be a baby but it's not being a bitch mackerel if i just if i throw a little salt on there i mean it, it's fucking awesome. It's incredible. I'm joking. You're not being a bitch if you don't like fish. It's fair.

But it's so icky. Yeah. One hack I'll say, and this is, again, for the people that are cool with it. Mark mentioned the canned mackerel. I like to go to European stores, and almost everywhere has a European store. Yeah. But I like to go there, and I like to get like – they have a lot of different types of canned fish or smoked fish or just like smoked salmon they have a bunch of different types of fish that you can just keep in your fridge and pull out so i'll get like smoked salmon and i'll grab different

bottles of herring and different things of sliced herring right and i'll just i love pickled herring pickled herring is so good that with some raw onions. I mean, I wouldn't say that you guys should do the raw onions because that is a blow up. Like if you eat too much, like that's going to make you have a leaky asshole. I saw the pain on your face. Yeah. I don't regret any of it. Actually, I'm going to do it again because it's just that good. But that's an easy way to get like some really good fish.

And if you're a fan of that type of taste which i am delicious how do you guys prepare fish because i'm not a fan of it i i look at it and i'm like okay why would i you know like when i see some fish in general even salmon yeah just all of the above because what it actually makes me mad when somebody will go to like a nice restaurant and they'll order fish i'm like, there's something far more superior right there. You just order a steak and you're getting the Hyundai instead of getting like the Alexis over here. But okay, sure. Sounds good.

So how do you guys prepare it to where it's easy and tastes good? Just like anything else, you need practice with it. You need to cook it a couple times. When you cook it, it's going to have a certain scent to it that you might not be familiar with. It's not any different than cooking anything else. So if you cook up lamb or if you cook up liver or you cook up different types of food, different types of meat, someone's going to be like, oh, what? It's going to smell different. It doesn't smell like fucking French toast.

We all know what fish smells like though. Come on now. Yeah, exactly. It smells like spoiled meat. It can. I'm not wrong. It smells like spoiled meat. And so then how do you know if fish goes bad?

Does it smell like? No, no, no. If fish. No, if the fish. Well, that is true. So if the fish smells fishy, then it's bad. Touch it. It gets slimy as fuck. Yeah, well, that is true. So if the fish smells fishy, then it's bad. Touch it, it gets slimy as fuck.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, if you smell like meat or chicken, like, you know, if you get your nose close to like, you know, beef, it has a certain scent to it. But give it, you know, two, three days sitting in the fridge or something like that. Now it starts, you can smell it. And that's what happens a lot of times with fish is fish might degrade a little faster, especially because it might be more sensitive because it has like omega-3s in it. So the spoilage might happen faster because it'll get like impacted from heat or light negatively. So yeah, you do have to maybe pay attention to it. But I think getting smoked salmon or smoked – trying smoked stuff might be the first place to start since you don't cook it.

It's already cooked. Canned stuff is not a bad place to start if you want to try to like put – chop up some vegetables and maybe mix it with a little bit of like olive oil or mayo or something like that. It might be a good place to try to start to fuck with it. That way you don't have to even really cook it. But I got to say, cooking fish is like as simple as cooking a steak in your air fryer. Like you can season it or marinate it however you want. Stick the fucking thermometer in and cook it until well. Like that's all.

Some people like their fish like a little bit rare on the inside. I like it fully cooked. And if it's a little bit rare on the inside, I like it fully cooked. And if it's a little bit around the inside, that's fine. We eat sushi all the time. Right. So, but it's, it's like, it's not, it's, it's not difficult to make at all. And I think that's not difficult to make good either. Right.

And then, so like you're saying salmon. So is that just like, like Costco salmon or like, where do you get it from? Yeah. Get it from Costco. Good Life has it too. Yeah. Any, anywhere you can get fish.? Yeah. Get it from Costco. Good Life has it too. Yeah. Any, anywhere you can get fish. Sorry.

I mean, this is like. You just don't eat fish my first time. That's fair. Yeah, people, people do try to make a big deal about like wild caught versus farm or whatever. I think just whatever way you can figure out a way to get it in is a good start. But any canned, any canned fish in the united states has to be wild so that's a that's a decent reference point if you really do care whether it's wild and farmed or whatever and that's that company is wild planet yeah is that the one i think yeah i think

that's where i'll go to first yeah yeah salmon mackerel i mean i can i'll just bring you a um i have one in my car i'll just give you a mackerel thing okay um just take it out of the can put it in a bowl take a fork squeeze uh like a little bit of like lemon on there throw some salt and pepper on there and i would be surprised if if maybe like if you ate the whole thing in one at one time you might be kind of like but i would be shocked that if you didn't kind of enjoy at least the first couple bites it might take you a while to get used to it over time though if you don't like it's fucking awesome yeah if you don't like it give it to me i'm gonna do

that i'll eat that whole thing up just if you don't like give it to me and there's another thing like do you not like sardines no but sardines are good for you guys are good but just like everything when somebody doesn't really like explore too much, I've just never given them a legit shot. Yeah. So I couldn't tell, like I have no recollection of what they even taste like. It was just, oh, sardines. Again, this is shit I ate growing up. I ate so much sardines growing up.

So I like sardines. I think they're great. They have a little bit of bone on inside too. And the bones are like chewy. So you can like chew the bone.'s nice like crunchy or they can be crunchy but usually they're just kind of like they're softer like like a little harder jerky no no most sardine bones are soft and chewy you can chew it along with the fish yeah uh a good way to kind of flirt around the outside of fish too is uh maybe with scallops or shrimp oh yeah yeah those are some

decent options scallops are interesting because like if you overcook them and they're just like i don't know you're fucked uh but uh shrimp i think i don't know have you you must have had shrimp before yeah yeah i when uh or when like n had his, his food company, he had a, like a tray. It was just like an insane amount of shrimp. And I would just like, dude, this is really good. Like I've never eaten shrimp. I liked the texture of it. Yeah.

I liked that it was like soft and then kind of crunchy as you bit into it. And it was, it was really good. But outside of that, like I just never messed with shrimp. Yeah, shrimp is amazing. At the grocery store, you can buy them with the tail off. And then I forget what the other thing is, maybe skin or something like that. Or deveined, they call it, which sounds disgusting. So tail off, deveined.

You can buy them frozen. And those are just so easy to cook up. You just throw them in like a pan or you throw them on your grill. And they're just like all protein. They're all protein. There's zero grams of fat. Yeah. They do have have a lot of cholesterol but i don't think that's anything dietary cholesterol i don't think is anything to really that's weird worry too much about i think you would worry more about the saturated fat if you're trying to pay attention to cholesterol

and or apo b yeah yeah and that's like crab, lobster, all that stuff. Like I don't mess with any of it. But I know my wife likes it. But we just like she's deprived of it because I don't eat any of it. So I'm like, all right, maybe we can start bringing in shrimp into the picture. Do you guys ever use DoorDash? No. Because I was going to say like maybe from a restaurant. You probably don't go out to eat very often either because it's probably tough with your little guy and stuff.

from a restaurant. You probably don't go out to eat very often either because it's probably tough with your little guy and stuff. But if you use DoorDash and you order from somewhere that's kind of like a nice restaurant, ordering fish from a nice restaurant, it's usually, I mean, they almost always get the cooking of it perfect. So that might be another good spot to,

another good thing to try. A good gateway. Easy. I like fish. Yeah. I'm trying to think if there's any been any other drastic changes i mean i do spend a lot of time in front of the red light i've been trying to do about 20 minutes of that i've been on point with all the cold stuff the grounding stuff and doing all that let me ask you guys this do you guys find uh seasonal changes do you uh because

i notice like winter months i start to eat a bit more which i don't mind i know it happens every winter and like now what what always happens is it starts to get warmer as i start to eat less food naturally i don't mind it but i just start to eat less does that happen with you guys do you guys feel like you start to eat more when it gets warmer what what what seems like my taste buds change a little bit when it gets warmer out when the sun's out i tend to want like sweeter stuff i want more fruit and stuff like that. I want more carbs, I guess. And then in the wintertime, it seems like I care a little bit less about that. Yeah. I'm not in tuned enough to like even catch that, to be honest. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm actually the opposite of you. When it starts

to get warmer, I start to eat like less sweet, less carby type of stuff. Um, I lean, I mean, whenever it starts getting warmer, I always start naturally leaning out because I eat less and I don't, I don't try to eat more because I know that just, I just feel less hungry. Um, and maybe it's because I'm naturally getting more sun, maybe something, maybe there's a correlation there with all the things we've been learning, but I just find that interesting cause that's been a trend for years now um there's something about like the summertime even though i won't drink it i just like want to drink some orange juice or something like that i want to drink like a juice or drink something like

uh sweet like the what were you drinking like apple juice or something were you ollie pops no you when you you were door dashing i think think. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Simply lemonade. Simply lemonade. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That shit. That's not okay, man. You went overboard.

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sexual wellness tools, but there's a lot of weird ingredients in there. These are all natural ingredients that's going to help your own production of blood flow. Stick it in some water, 60 minutes later, you're going to be able to stick it into something else. Joy mode's your way to go. Andrew, how can they get it? Yes, that's over at usejoymode.com slash powerproject. And at checkout, enter promo code powerproject to save 20% off your entire order. Again, usejoymode.com slash powerproject, promo code powerproject, links in the description, as well as the podcast show notes. I do let me let me mention this though because i think uh we kind of glazed over caffeine a little bit and now like it seems by the way why did your wife why did she start going decaf was she going decaf before you or after you she just doesn't care oh she can just have like she

can have coffee and go to bed so she's just like ah well why have it but then she did notice though she actually said um so she bought decaf because i just asked her to and so she bought some um but then she said that like by like the second or third day she didn't feel that good a couple times and she was like she's like i don't even know if i ever get the positives of coffee she's like i can't ever say i've ever felt it like get me hyped up she's like but i was addicted to it and it's just now that i now that i'm not having the caffeine i'm just getting the negative side effects of not having the caffeine i was like damn but she's she's good now that was a while ago yeah that should take a while but that's what i was going to say because i'm someone who i still am self-admitted. Like I love coffee. Like I really, really do. And I

remember when we were doing a, I don't know, what was it? A something November, sober October, sober October. Right. Uh, we were all giving up coffee and I was the first one to cave to start drinking coffee again. Right. I like coffee, but the benefits after like taking coffee out or really minimizing it has been pretty wild. Same shit that happened to Andrew. Energy is just so much better. Like my thinking so much clearer. I don't feel like I have a drop at any point during the day. And I haven't felt like that in a long time. I've felt like I needed caffeine. So for those of you who are, again, I know there's so much research to back up the benefits of caffeine and there's not like we're telling you to never drink caffeine again,

but get control over it. Like if you feel like you love it and you have it every day, and I get it, if you don't want to give it up, I'm not telling you you have to, but maybe see if it can be something that you control how it makes you feel rather than feeling that you need it. Right? I think think that that's, at least for me, it's a much better place to be where it feels like a tool I can pull out. Like everything we talk about, these are all tools that we can use.

Caffeine is one of those tools, right? Versus I must have it every single day or I'm going to have a bad day. I think cutting back on your caffeine, something everyone should give a try to. I think most people probably consume too much of it. I think a lot of people have issues with their sleep and they're like, well, I only have it in the morning. Well, it could still have an impact. I mean, supposedly it like sits around in your body for like 12 hours or something. It's

like the half-life from my understanding of it. So it's like, that seems like a long time. And what if you're a person that just takes longer to um you know maybe it takes you 16 hours so maybe it is negatively impacting your sleep but then also maybe there's caffeine and a lot of stuff that you're just not really thinking of it's in a lot of stuff it's in a lot it's in a lot i mean it's in stuff that like sometimes you might even get like a hydration packet like i'm gonna try this hydration and you look at the small print on there and it's like oh fuck that has caffeine in it too different forms of chocolate yeah it's like in realize yeah it's in all kinds of stuff so you know just try to pay attention to

it be mindful of it and then um you might discover that you're going to get more out of it when you resume going back to it or when you want to utilize it as like a strategy. That's originally probably why you started to use it in the first place. I remember as a kid, I never understood coffee. I didn't understand why adults are drinking coffee. It just smells bad. Bitter water. What? Yeah.

Tastes gross, you know. But then over time, you just get addicted to it. Next thing you know, you're drinking it and you need it every day. Yeah. Yeah. My suggestion has always been like, hey, can you – I'm not saying get rid to it next thing you know you're drinking it and you need it every day yeah yeah my my suggestion is has always been like hey can can you i'm not saying get rid of it but can you stop drinking it after i know like our goal is is like around 11 10 11 but like can you stop drinking it by time you're done eating lunch right like have no more the rest of the day

because i know most people they'll get that that slump in the middle of their work day and it's like ah time to go re-up just to get to finish the last three hours of my work day it's like but you know exactly what you said like the half-life i don't know what happens after the half-life is over is there a quarter life is there you know an eighth life like is that still keep going you know that's shit that i don't understand that somebody's like probably you're a fucking idiot like it's not how it works but like we're not all the exact same so to say that oh yeah the the you know caffeine has a you know 12 hour half-life like exactly like you said martha we don't know what happens because i know for sure i can i can drink an entire pot of coffee and go right to sleep i pass out instantly does that mean that my sleep is as best as it could be? Is it being

compromised? I'm pretty sure it is. My heart rate's probably way higher. I'm not getting the recovery. So why not try to optimize that sleep? Because that's the thing that's going to like, you know, help that caffeine work a lot better versus like, no, I'm just going to keep smashing my face with coffee all day long. And it's just so wild just thinking about how like coffee has infiltrated and just taken over every adult right nobody goes anywhere without coffee you look at the lines at at the airport it's the first thing that's like fucking through the whole entire airport is somebody trying to get or people trying to get stuff at starbucks it's just really interesting like the grasp that it has on us now.

And no one thinks there's anything, like, it just seems normal, you know? And there's no, there's like no downside, you know, according to society, right? And the research. And I would just say, like, big coffee. Just try to, just try to give yourself a chance, you know, give yourself a shot. Like, rather than just sitting there, and you're at work, and you you're like, oh man, I got to go work out after this. And it's like five o'clock. And then by the time you get to the gym, it's like going to be 6 PM. And you're just like trying to debate whether you should go or not. You're like, I'm going to have some pre-workout. It's just interesting. Like why just, why have the pre-workout? Like you're having the pre-workout

as if you're already defeated, as if you already don't have the energy and you might not feel great, but we know, we all know for sure, a hundred percent, once you start to move around, you're going to feel better than you feel right now. And you're going to feel fucking better than anything that the pre-workout can do for you. So just start to move around. And if after five, six minutes, and you did a couple of warmup sets and stuff, you're like, man, I'm still beat to hell. Well, then maybe you do need the pre-workout on that particular day. But I think just push all that shit off as much as you can and see what you can do.

See what you can muster up on your own. And I got to say, two things. If you love kombucha, look at it. Because there's quite a few kombuchas that have caffeine and you don't even realize it. Um, there's a really popular brand, uh, fuck, whatever it's, but there's, I like all that shit, whatever. There's a really popular brand, but like when you look at the thing, it has caffeine in it. And there was a point where I was drinking kombucha at night and I didn't even realize kombucha had caffeine. That's first. Secondly, if you are, you know, again,

if you're someone who's now you're like okay i'm gonna i'm gonna try this no caffeine thing for a little bit get ready for those withdrawals hits everybody differently but my withdrawals are fucking shitty shitty shitty shitty for like eight days i didn't i was dragging like i just my motivation was kind of tanked because when i was drinking coffee before i always had the the feeling of after i'd have my cup of coffee the world was my fucking bitch that's how i felt on the inside right after i had that cup like ready to go podcast ready to learn but without it i like i was like what what am i without it, what does this mean? And that, that, that for me was a sign of like, fuck, I have an issue because the thing that actually made me really think hard about it was I

wasn't someone having like 500 milligrams a day. I was, you know how much we pay attention to this shit. I was making sure I was having at min, like at most, maybe 200 milligrams, maybe 200, I was having at min, like at most, maybe 200 milligrams, maybe 200, usually like 150 or something. And without that, I felt like I couldn't do shit. How much of a bitch am I? Maybe I am just a bitch, but those withdrawals were really bad. But after those eight days, right, I started to feel normal and good and self-motivated without it. I was like, okay, shit. Wow. So I'm not just a little bitch. I can, I can do this without it. And now it's okay, shit. Wow. So I'm not just a little bitch. I can do this without it. And now it's a tool. Now, if I do get a really bad night of sleep and I come and I'm feeling a bit tired, I can use it as a quick boost. And it really hits hard because I don't have it

chronically every single day. So that's the thing. You give yourself time to get through those withdrawals. Some people, there's different strategies that people use in terms of slowly tapering down their intake to zero. Instead of doing their normal, they'll do half, and then they'll do half of that, and then they'll do decaf for a little bit, and then they'll go a week without it at all. You can do that too. I just went cold turkey. It's up to you, but just kind of be ready. Some of you might not feel any type of difference, but some of you might have pretty rough withdrawals, and you just need to wait that bitch out.

Yeah, withdrawals for me were insane to wait that bitch out. Yeah. Withdrawals for me were insane headaches. Oh, you had headaches? I had the worst headaches. I was like, dude, and it was never ending. It was just like all day long. I have a headache. This is terrible. And then I started slurring my words on the podcast.

I was like, it made me like permanently hungover where I was just tired all the time and just hating life. Dude, isn't this shit weird? Like, again like who's the guy from bulletproof coffee you remember we had a lot of spree dave asprey dave asprey came on the pod years ago he was like he's stupid if you don't like caffeine blah blah but like it just it's really odd that if i don't have this dark drink i turn into mush yeah that's weird We can't say that's normal. That's not normal. It's not. No, but with like more recently though, like you've been having green tea and that has a little bit of caffeine. So like, I'm not, yeah, I'm not saying like, oh, like you're, you didn't actually go cold turkey, but yeah, you use it as a tool. Yeah. So you use it like every other day. Yeah. Like some, like most days I don't have

caffeinated tea. So like, I can't remember maybe last week I had it once, but it's not like, but it's not like I'm holding myself back from it, but I just don't want to be in the habit of having caffeine every day. That's the only goal I have. I want to be able to have some days where I don't have caffeine and I want to feel fine so that when I do use caffeine, I know like it's going to give me a little bit of a boost. That's the main reason. So you can have green tea every day. I don't think that's a problem. Just for me, I want to be able to navigate without it

because I don't want to get back to the point where I need it every single day. That's not a good place for me to be personally. I got to be careful with green tea. It makes me pee a lot. Oh, yeah, it does. Yeah, it's good and bad. But yeah, I just got to be careful. Yeah, I like tea.

I think like anything that's hot, you know, can be a little bit of an appetite suppressant too. So I think that people think that caffeine is a great appetite suppressant and maybe it is, but I just think having stuff that's like warm or hot can be pretty good appetite suppressant as well. You have so many boxes of tea at home now, like so many different types of tea to pull from that are like non-caffeinated some caffeinated and again it hits the spot that warm thing in your mouth in the morning is just you know yeah it's good shit yeah i got some pretty fancy tea that mike dolce recommended because it doesn't have like any like it's not like the packaging like the little tea bags aren't don't have any like anything it's not like the packaging, like the little tea bags aren't, don't have any like anything. It's just like all natural or whatever the fuck you want to call it. No, no harmfulness.

But what I wanted to ask you guys, are you still essentially intermittent fasting or are you eating more meals on a regular basis? I just like fast like through the middle of the day most of the time. And then there's also just, you know, I think we've gotten to a point in this country where people just eat so much that whenever we don't eat, we call it fasting or call it intermittent fasting. And so I have like three or four meals a day usually. And sometimes I might not eat like a real full meal until 12 or two. But for the most part, I usually have breakfast and then I will eat around three or four and then I'll eat around five or six and then that's it for the day usually. Yeah. Some days it's one meal. Most days it's two meals and rarely it's like one small meal

and two good meals. But I'll still do one meal on certain days when I just don't feel like I need to eat that much food. I think that's like, that's a good thing like that we're able to kind of vary that, you know what I mean? One meal a day doesn't bother me. It doesn't feel bad. It doesn't fuck with my performance. It's just some days where I'm just like, I don't need to eat that much. I'll just eat one good big meal, protein rich a day. So yeah, I don't think that's – I think that's kind of how like the way I use fasting is going to be. I'm going to spruce it in where I need it, use it as a tool just like everything else. I think fasting is a really interesting thing because there's a couple things you can do if you really struggle with your diet and you really struggle with your hunger and your cravings and stuff. And one thing you can do is you could eat frequently. You could spread everything out

throughout the day and you could, but a lot of times that's inconvenient. And so if it's not inconvenient for you and you're able to do that, then that might be a great strategy. But if it feels like it's inconvenient and it's hard for you to follow, like you're like, man, I just can't, I can't even follow a diet for very long. It's like, well, maybe you can't follow the diet because maybe it's just annoying and it's hard for you to prepare all these meals all the time. And so if you just subtract out a lot of meals, maybe that subtracts out a lot of confusion. Maybe that, maybe it's like, okay, what's my meal prep? It's like, okay, I have some water with me and maybe I got some amino acids or maybe

I have like a protein powder or something with me in case I do actually get like super hungry or whatever the case may be. Like you don't want to break down muscle or whatever you might be super worried or concerned about. But fasting is an amazing strategy. And the way that I look at it is it's almost like you're trying to burn off. Let's just say that currently you have X amount of hunger every single day. Well, now you're just trying to take a little lighter to it.

It's like you're lighting off the little fringe ends of it and you're trying to make your hunger something that's smoother and something that's easier to control. And at the moment, sometimes for people, it's just, it's a very hard thing to control. So you can control it by eating frequently, or you can control it by eating infrequently. There's so much research that shows that you're going to be hungry with or without food. So you might eat at 8am and then be hungry at 12, but you're going to be hungry at 12, whether you ate at 8 a.m. or not. And sometimes you're even hungrier. It depends on the person, depends on the types of foods. If you're somebody that really likes to eat carbohydrate-rich food, sometimes you might be even hungrier. You might notice if you had a carb-rich meal in the morning,

you may be hungrier later on. Whereas if you had fats and proteinsrich meal in the morning, you may be hungrier later on. Whereas if you had fats and proteins first thing in the morning, you might be less hungry in the middle of the day. So kind of, you got to pick your poison with all these things. And ultimately you'll have to figure out a way to kind of manage your energy. But another way to kind of stuff back

some of your hunger is to just eat a fuck ton of protein. Just try to really eat a lot of protein. And you want to try to have lean protein because if it's accompanied by a lot of fat, now you're just going to get into having probably too many calories. A constant thing that's been beneficial for all of our health has been intaking enough protein, but also intaking quality protein. And that's why we've been partnering with Good Life Proteins for years now. Good Life not only sells P. Monti's beef, which is our favorite beef. And the main reason why it's our favorite is because they have cuts of meat that have higher fat content like their ribeyes

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You can get yourself scallops. You can get yourself all types of different meats and i really suggest going a good life and venturing in and maybe playing around with your proteins i mean going back to the red meat there's picanha all kinds of stuff chorizo sausage there's maple bacon that stuff's incredible the maple bacon yes maple bacon's really good yo my girl put those in these uh bell peppers with with steak and chicken. Oh, my God. It was so good.

But either way, guys, protein is essential. And Good Life is the place where you can get all of your high-quality proteins. So, Andrew, how can they get it? Yes, you can head over to goodlifeproteins.com and enter promo code POWERPROJECT to save 20% off your entire order. Links in the description as well as the podcast show notes. I really like how Russell Buddy put it. He was like, appetite. He's like, that's up here.

That's in my head. And that kind of never stops. He's like, but hunger? He's like, that's down here in my stomach. He's like, that comes in waves. He's like, it'll come strong sometimes and other times not so much, but I know that it's going to end up coming no matter what. So he's like, he had to make that distinction. And that's very important for people to understand.

I think we all, like if there were some Oreos on the table, regardless of what we plan on doing today, regardless of how hungry we are right now, we're all going to just be staring at it, waiting for the first person to take a cookie. So that way we can all be like, oh yeah, me too. And we just like all, you know, kind of buddy up like that. But like for me two meals a day was working really well for a long time but i would get you know i'd get to the studio and i'd get out of my car like oh like all right here we go because like i would be tired from jiu-jitsu but i'd also be very full from 10 eggs because that 10 eggs was going to fuel me for the rest of the day so i'm trying to have smaller meals but just more frequently 10 eggs was going to fuel me for the rest of the day. So I'm trying

to have smaller meals, but just more frequently. So I'm going to go from like two meals a day to somewhere between three and four meals, like legit meals, you know, but a legit meal could be, you know, a thing of like good culture, um, cottage cheese and some honey and maybe some peanut butter. Cause it tastes really good. whereas before i wasn't having that and then same thing with like fruit in the middle of the day like i might have like more of it before i would have a little bit here and there inconsistently but i think making it like a point to like i need to have that like in betweener i think you're going to find a lot of benefit for this just because like, um, those smaller meals, they're going to be easier on your digestive system, you know, for you, for you, I think they're going to be easier. By the way, what I sent you was 2020 to 2024. Oh shit.

Yeah. So that's, that's the difference in her pictures there. You want to pull this up on screen? But I was laughing because it's like, when I was bodybuilding, I was eating like five or six meals. But you're kind of doing what I was doing back in the day. But anyway, this is interesting. This is Sam at her show March 2020. And that was the Arnold in 2024. Hey, now. Yo, like the muscle development.

Like she's had some gains, bro. Shoulders. Yeah. And that's what I was talking about with the structure. Like she has a pro-level structure. I'm so proud of her. I'm so proud of her. But yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're all proud of her. Good job, Sam. Good job, Sam. You fucking rock. Yeah. What I was going to mention, though, too, was the hunger thing that you guys were talking about. I don't, like, again, I still don't think, cause I know a lot of people, when talking about dieting, it is, it is important to be careful about how hungry you let yourself

get, because if you let yourself get too hungry, then you can end up eating way too much to compensate for that hunger. And that's just not a good cycle to be in feeling super hungry, then binging and feeling super hungry and binging. But it's just like, I think it's probably beneficial to get a handle on caffeine and how you feel with and without it so that you can go without it. I think it's a good idea to familiarize yourself and be okay emotionally with being a little bit hungry. And then in response to that hunger, eating normal amounts of food rather than binging on food. Because if you can get control over that over years, then that's going to be something beneficial.

Initially, it's going to feel super uncomfortable and you might have a tendency to overeat here and there from feeling hungry. But over time, that's why I do think still, I still do think fasting is a great practice in the long run. And if you could fit it into your life, because if you can familiarize yourself with hunger and control your responses to that hunger, so you're not eating excessive amounts of food and so that hunger doesn't bother you, that's a very powerful thing. Then diets don't really pull on you too much because on diets, if you're getting ready for a show or you're doing a short diet for a while to get ready for something, it's not going to kill you because hunger isn't something that's destroying you. You'll have coping mechanisms that are healthier than eating an excessive amount of food. I think I did some math one time,

which is probably not a good idea, but it was just once. And what I came up with is if you fast every day for 16 hours, it ends up being a week's worth of not eating, which is like really interesting. And my math could be off. I can't remember if that's the exact thing that it came out to be, But it's just really fascinating, right? Like if you just don't eat and all we're talking about, you know, I think there's 16-8 and there's all these different fasting protocols. I think don't worry about a lot of that stuff. I don't think you need to have a clock and you need to have an app and you need to really be super concerned with it. Again, if you're newer and you've had trouble in the past, maybe you need real strict rules from the beginning.

Maybe your rules have to be black and white. But I think in general, what we're talking about is just not eating for a few waking hours. It's really not that big a deal. So if you have a good practice of not eating anything an hour or two before bed, let's say two hours before bed, and then you don't eat anything for the first two hours of the day and you slept for eight hours, well, now we're doing pretty good. Like we're at

what, 12 hours already? So that's a very healthy practice and that's very normal for a lot of people. If that's already normal for you, then you're going to want to probably try to extend that out a little bit longer. But if that's normal for you, it shouldn't be difficult for you to snip two more hours in either on the back end or the front end or to put four hours somewhere for you to get to that 16-hour range. Again, there's not a lot of evidence that fasting per se is like some magical thing, but it usually does help people with regulating the overall amount of energy that they're consuming. So it's been really effective for pretty much anyone I've ever had try it. Give it a legitimate shot.

Yeah, yeah. There's cases where people have come off it, gone back to it. And like with Russell, you know, Russell has utilized intermittent fasting a bunch. Sometimes he likes it. Sometimes he doesn't. Sometimes we, we talk about it and we'll say, Hey, let's just hold off on the fasting for now. Like, it's not a big deal. Like you, you recently lost a hundred pounds. Like it's okay if we park here for a minute and then we're going to go down 120 and 140 and so on. So it's going to take, it's going to take some time. And that's another

thing is that like, when it comes to your, when you're trying to lose weight, if you, I think that you should always lose weight in stages. I think you should gain weight in stages. I think all these things should take time. And the pictures of Sam that you just pulled up, it takes a long time. I mean, the difference from the left picture to the right picture to an untrained eye or untrained person might not look like that big of a deal. But that is a big deal because the amount of muscle mass that she put on. It takes, all this stuff takes a really, really long time. So just understand the whole process is going to take a long ass time. Yeah.

Yeah. And for me, fasting really, really helped with my gas station taste buds, you know, because when you're when you're kind of snacking on a bunch of stuff throughout the day. You know, you kind of want to level up every single time you eat something, right? If you eat a bag of Doritos, then, you know, good food is now no longer appealing because your taste buds are kind of shot but if you fast through the day and you don't have those tiny little snacks and you get legit hunger right like it's time to eat you are hungry you're ready to to eat and you know you're ready because now that steak looks incredible that that steak and and the the the rice or the steak and the the the potato that's not full of a shit ton of butter and all the extra things. Like, no, just regular rice looks so good right now.

That stuff really, really helped me. And I wish I had discovered fasting much earlier because I could have been able to like half the time that it's taken me to get a healthier body because of all the shitty things I used to eat. Because I didn't want to eat healthy stuff because it wasn't appealing. But when you stop eating, all of a sudden now it's like, well, shit, dude, that chicken actually looks incredible. I can't wait to dive into that. So it really, really helped with those, like what Mark calls gas station taste buds, which is perfectly said because I used to eat at gas stations a lot. Natural foods are so good, you know, and I think we lose sight of it when we have interruption of eating Doritos

and Fritos and all these different things. I think today is the international snack day, by the way. Is it? Yeah, I think so. I saw it on today's show this morning. Let's close up shop and and i think they said i think they said the number one snack was oreos doritos a rice crispy treat those are fucking good really and then that one coming i know and then behind that you had uh um not not doritos um pringles cheetos i think it was hot cheetos yeah i think uh i don't know maybe you can look it up andetos? I think it was. Hot Cheetos? Yeah, I think, I don't know. Maybe you can look it up, Andrew. I think it was Cheetos. Alright, but let me put you guys on game for something for snack, right?

Because I know we talk about like, okay, it's not good to snack. And like, honestly, be careful with something like this. But you ever had those Quest chips? I have. Okay. So, what are we doing? I got some Quest chips, right? The hot ones. Cheese or something? Actually, that's a fucking good idea.

You mentioned it. But the ranch flavor is really good and the hot flavor is really good. So I put those in a bowl and then Costco has like these small guacamole packs. Yes. Yes. I love those. So I'll take two of those. It's getting exciting.

It could probably be more fun if I got some cheese on it and shit. But you just take one of those and you just dip it in the guac and eat it like it is a protein rich chip and you have guac it's actually pretty healthy for like a a bro snack yeah it's better than fucking pulling out some doritos and shit but yeah it's fucking good dude those guac cups are legit it's it's it's not like uh so it's not even guac it's it's just like avocado cups like it's just it's not guac maybe they have two different ones but they have one that is just an avocado like you used to have that in starbucks is it that same thing i think so and what's great is so that's again i forgot about this but i include that in my breakfast also yeah yeah so i have eggs secret egg whites uh a avocado cup, and sprouted bread.

I have Ezekiel bread now. I'm not messing with the sourdough bread. And that's been interesting, just learning about sprouted bread, how Ezekiel bread is just majority protein. Obviously carbs, but it's very low on the glycemic index. I don't even know if I pronounced that correctly. You did. Whatever the case, it's a legit thing. And I know it's not the best tasting, but that's another thing that's changed with cutting out artificial sweeteners.

You can taste everything. Everything's tasting way better. It's incredible. Yeah. Let's go. Yeah. So, like, something like sprouted bread were before. Sprouted bread.

Sprouted bread would not be so appealing. Now I'm like, let's get this fucking bread. It's really good. Some Bible bread. Ezekiel bread. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. It's very expensive.

And they started making the packages smaller though. When's the last time you guys had any alcohol? With you guys? It's been a minute i know i've had some wine like the past four months but it's been a while i like wine too it's just she doesn't drink i really don't drink the hard ketones if that counts yeah yeah i remember that i remember that why do you ask oh i haven't had a drink since like, I don't know, sometime in December. Oh shit. My wife stopped drinking. So really? Yeah. Yeah. She dropped out of the game. Yeah. She just said it's time for a change. That's awesome. Yeah. She told me, she's like, uh, I don't know. One day I came home from work me she's like uh i don't know one day i came home from work and she's like i'm gonna stop she's like i'm gonna stop drinking next month i was like

oh cool she just goes no i mean forever and i was like damn like she doesn't mess around so i was like wow okay but uh we got some substitutes so we're doing some lsd and some coke and some other stuff like that to keep our mind off of that. You know what I mean? Just a good healthy dose. No, we actually have been kind of messing around with some kava. I told you guys a little bit about kava before. I still need to buy it.

I got to bring my boy in, but yeah. So we have a little bit of that here and there. I usually have one like every night. It's just like, I don't know, something to soothe you, calm you down. But yeah, it's been cool. What was the one you told me to buy? I think it's called True Kava, I don't know, something to soothe you, calm you down. But yeah, it's been cool. What was the one you told me to buy? I think it's called True Kava, I think. Kava, unlike Kratom, with Kava, I think it's okay to try to find like a powder.

Because you do want like a decent dosage in my opinion. But a lot of the drinks, I think they start out around maybe 500 milligrams. I think you get until like a gram or two grams or so a kava. I'm just throwing out random numbers. I probably shouldn't. But I think like, you know, I think it's from my experience anyway, it seems like you need like a good dosage of it. But just like with anything else there's extracts and stuff like that too so pay attention because an an extract uh will be just

like the straight uh product itself and it'll be way stronger so for whatever that's worth yeah give it a shot i remember i went to this uh this asha spot and the girl behind the counter she's like you had kava today and she was like oh, oh, I'm feeling so... I was like, oh, kava could get you like that? She's like, yeah. It's like, okay. It's kind of gross. Really? Like, you know, if you ever, like there's kava

shops, kava stores, like you can go into like, it's like a coffee shop kind of thing. They have one in Davis. I might stop there before I go home, actually. And your tongue is just like... It numbs your tongue. It's weird. Yeah, we should go have some. I'll have some with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I might stop there before I go home, actually. And your tongue is just like... It numbs your tongue. It's weird. Yeah, we should go have some. I'll have some with you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I'll stop by there before I go. Is it okay to have driving? Yeah. Okay, okay. Good. Yeah, it helps a lot with accidents.

Great. I'm kidding. You're joking. Okay. For those of you who don't know, Kava Kava. Oh, I like that vibe. No, this is my buddy. He actually makes and sells it.

But he is legit with it. He will just get the root and just serve it up. And it's, dude, it's, yeah, he'll add some stuff to it. But he stirs it up out of the, he serves it in an actual coconut thing. And it's good. I can bring you guys some of his. Please do. Yeah.

Do you have a good dose of fentanyl in there too? No. Unfortunately, it's not that good. But see what I mean? It's legit, dude. So it's kind of like a cool thing because it's like a ritual thing. And once I dug into that, I'm like, yeah, I'm kind of a hippie. So I'm in.

So, yeah, I will snag us some for the studio shoot. Get us some coconuts too, Jesus. Coconuts to drink from. That's for this. He's got these secret things going. There's a lot of cool people around where I live in Elk Grove. Fun stuff.

Alright, well, strength is never weakness, weakness is never strength. Catch you guys later. Bye!