Mark Bell's Power Project - Overrated: TRT, Supplements, Sauna and More || MBPP Ep. 932

Episode Date: May 16, 2023

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Vitamin D. I'm going to go here with this one. Supplement. Creatine. Many years ago when I took creatine when I was natty, there was a point where I was natty. I know. It's amazing. Kratom.

I had to go with underrated just because I think that people still don't know about it. I haven't taken anything that works as good as a mind bullet. Fidojia agrestis and tongue cut ali. My nuts were so strong. I shove it down her mouth every morning, man. The greens. The greens. My bad.

TRT. Where's this overrated? We got some more overrated and underrated to go over, right? Oh, yes. This is fun, too. You asked a very interesting question on our walk today, and I don't understand where it came from. I guess we were talking about cold plunging a little bit, so maybe it came from there.

But where did that question come from? I don't fucking know. We were just walking around, talking shit, and then I was curious if you guys would, if you had the choice choice and the technology was flawless, like you're not going to die, would you get cryogenically frozen for X amount of years? This could be five years, 10 years. You'd get unfrozen at the same age, right? But the only thing that would change is the time period. So we, you know, we're 2023. Maybe we'd be in 2033, but we'd be us right now. And maybe you can have, what, your family come with you or whatever.

Would you get frozen? It's interesting because how different of a question is it between that and, so you're frozen and you're going to be the same age. Yes. So technically it wouldn't be all that different than just going into the future. Although a couple years would pass going in the future i guess technically a couple years would pass too but it would just be you just go right into the future right yeah um i would say that like no i wouldn't want to because like i really enjoy my life i have now, and I don't know if I put myself on pause and came back, where's everybody else?

What are they doing? I mean, I know my wife would be gone. She'd be upgrading. She'd find a younger man, and that would be – my kids would disown me and probably – I don't know. Maybe they wouldn't. You would technically come out of it a younger man because the rest of the world has aged and you didn't that's true it's a tough one man because like like my wife would be like your money's gone you fucking asshole i'd be like what the hell i thought you loved me what happened you know there's i don't

think i would do it but you know let's say that okay let's say that we're 15 aways, 15 aways, 15 years away from something that can actually truly slow down your aging. Let's say we're 15 years away from that right now. In 15 years, you're going to be 62, right? what if we froze right now and then we're unfrozen right once the de-aging drug or the massively slow down aging drug is out then we'd start that drug younger i'm adding too many things in but well that's the whole point of like doing this sort of thing but then like why do you want to live forever i want to live for a long time yeah i want to live good for a long time. Yeah, I get that. Whoa, okay. You know what?

Before we get into overrated, underrated, now this is another thing. If you could live for like, let's say, an extra 200 years. That's a long time. But nobody else would be able to do it with you that you love. Would you do it? That means you could live another 200 years, but everybody else would like, to do it with you that you love. Would you do it? That means you could live another 200 years, but everybody else would like,

they'd be probably gone, but you'd still be here doing your thing, lifting, having fun. You'd be crushing it. Hey, I would do it for the fame. Like if no one else has access to that,

I'd be, I'd want to be like, you know, the 247 year old guy or whatever. No one you care about's that's the that's the asterisk but no one you care i still get to be famous yeah longest living care a lot about you that's all you need yeah exactly yeah i'll get interviewed all the time be great oh how are you doing it what are you doing stay how so healthy and i'd be like i'm just eating my eggs and having my within you protein. There you go.

Dog, you know, if it was only followers, cause you'd be just around longer. See, like your ID would be insane. That's what I'm saying. If it was only you, government would soup you up so fast. You know, after you're like 100 years and you still look the same, the government, you'd be gone. They'd take your blood. Yeah. You'd be in a research, like you'd be in a lab.

Yeah. Straight up. Yeah. Would you guys do it? Let us know. be gone they'd take your blood yeah you'd be in a research like you'd be in a lab yeah straight up yeah would you guys do it let us know if like other people could do maybe do have access to that technology but no one you love so your mom your dogs your girl your guy they'd all be dead but you'd be here would you do it i don't know you have to go through cycles of people dying yeah you know that would suck that would really suck i was with my ex-wife still i'd be like i just gotta wait this out i love how you just throw shade at exes it's like fuck you but you know now that i'm not i don't think i would same same man yo

if i was in my last one i'd be like fuck take me jesus take me now lord all right y'all ready to get into it all right let's start off with uh some fun supplements all right was it overrated underrated perfectly rated on vitamin d i'm gonna go here with this one. I'm going over. I'm going peak, perfectly rated. I'll go, yeah, perfectly rated as well. Why do you think it's overrated, man? I just think it's overrated because I think I think are more important than vitamin D itself. So I oftentimes will hear experts and hear people talk about vitamin D and how important vitamin D is, and I don't disagree that it's important.

But there's a big difference between vitamin d as a hormone inside your body versus you taking a vitamin d supplement so i think that people have kind of mixed things up by talking about the vitamin d supplement and i i don't and i i don't know if there's a lot of research showing that the vitamin d supplementation does much of anything. But there could be. I could be wrong on that. Maybe I'm like unaware. But as far as I know, I don't think there's a lot of research showing like a vitamin D pill is going to really do anything. It may raise your blood vitamin D when you go to get your blood tested.

But again, I don't think that has the same impact as having the habits that raise your vitamin D. So many things come with the habits of like getting outside, getting sun, your circadian rhythm, all those things, along with vitamin D, the habit of going out and walking and doing all those, those all work together, right? And, you know, sometimes you may think that, okay, I'm taking my 5,000 IUs of vitamin D a day. I'll be fine if I don't go out and get a walk today, or I'll be out if I don't go out and get suns today. I can just stay indoors. And that's not the thing. Supplements are good. They are helpful. But that's why, yeah, it is more beneficial to do the thing and take the supplement rather than just taking the supplement thinking that it's going to make the difference. Yeah. I was just saying perfectly right because of what you guys have both been saying, like getting out in the sun, phenomenal. I think we're all starting to

understand, at least maybe because of the circles we run in, that people are understanding getting out in the sun is super beneficial. And when we looked at your labs recently, we noticed like, oh, wait, your vitamin D was lower during the winter time. Huh? So in those situations, I don't think it hurts to take a vitamin D supplement. Um, what you said makes a ton of sense as well about like, well, we don't really know what happens when you take it. And just, just because your labs show that your vitamin D levels are high, is that the same? We don't know, but I don't think it hurts. And so it's like, uh, like I think it can help, you know, in, uh, in many scenarios to just make sure your levels

are cool throughout the year. Yeah, a little bit of supplementation can help as well as getting outside as well as looking up things that have vitamin D and vitamin K in it. They're supposed to be like kind of a synergy between the two. So you just might want to look it up and investigate it more. I just sometimes think that

in the fitness community and wellness community type stuff, we just tend to really just maybe over amplify the benefits. Like if you're just sitting on your couch and some pale ass motherfucker who's not getting outside at all, I don't think you taking the popping 10,000 IUs of vitamin D every day is going to make a huge difference in your health. I still try to take it consistently, but I agree. Yeah. You guys ready for the next one? Creatine. What do you guys think?

I'm going to give it a P. I'm going to say this real quick. Underrated because I think because it's not a stimulant, you don't necessarily take the creatine and you feel the powers of creatine. Because of that, even in the past, I've been inconsistent on my creatine right whereas you take some caffeine you have a pre-workout you're like i feel like god but creatine you don't feel it but it has those effects after like a few

weeks of use you know i mean you will have better pumps in the gym you have better workouts in the gym it is the most researched supplement on the market and it is the cheapest so it's like take your fucking creatine even if you don't feel it. I think it's underrated. I remember I was coming home. I came home from work one day, and my wife goes, oh, your creatine came. And she kind of slid it across the counter, and I was like, I didn't order creatine. And right as I said that, Jake comes walking in the door.

I slide it back across the table, and I'm like, what the fuck is this? I learned it from watching you. No, he just had this grin on his face. He was like, yeah, I ordered some creatine. But I take creatine. I've been taking it for a while now and I've always thought it had benefit. Sometimes when you hear from guys like me that use performance enhancing drugs, they're like, like nothing works nothing does

anything but I think creatine has some application and why not use some of it here and there I just think it's helpful yeah I mean I guess I'd have to say underrated because what you just said and seem like you don't feel it and you know it's not like like a caffeine it's not like it's not like anything that you're gonna take and instantly feel this tasteless white powder yeah you literally don't recognize it in anything you take um what a great marketing scheme right yeah so you're not gonna really actually feel it yeah but it's doing something but no no actually maybe i'll even go overrated because there are some like supplement companies that will mix it in with stuff and then be like, oh, super pump, whatever. They don't do that anymore. They do, but they're bullshitting you. They try to make like creatine nitrate.

So that's what I'm saying. That's where I was like, maybe I'll go overrated. Yeah. Because it's not going to do that. But I don't think just kind of like what I said with vitamin D, there's no harm. I don't know if you guys ever mentioned this or ever noticed this, but many years ago when I took creatine when I was natty, there was a point where I was natty. There was a point? I know. It's amazing. I remember taking creatine and feeling my muscles and being like, I think my muscles are fucking harder. I thought it made a difference.

It felt like it made a difference. Have either one of you guys ever noticed like a noticeable like marked difference in anything? After like a few days, pumps are better and I am literally fuller because I'm holding on to more water. My muscles are more hydrated. So yeah, after a period of taking it, you do. But the thing is, it's like it's not something that you will take it and feel. You just got to get into the habit of just putting it in something, whether it's your coffee or water or whatever, and just taking it each day. Yeah. I've never really noticed anything. Next up. To be honest, yeah. Oh, my phone went to sleep.

Oh, no. Okay, next one. Omega-3s. Are you guys hot, by the way? Do you need me to turn the air on? No, I'm good. I feel okay. Omega-3s is actually, I will say, underrated.

I don't even know what Omega-3s are. I've mainly started taking them because of Charles Poliquin. I'll just put it here. You're talking about just like fish oil capsules? Fish oil capsules. And I also get in a bit of fish in my diet, too, to try to get Omega-3s in there. But apparently it's good for your heart. It's good for joint health, et cetera. And it's something that's very easy to miss, especially

if you don't eat fish. So most people who don't eat fish often or eat fish two or three times a week, it's a good idea to supplement some omega-3s. It's not a bad idea at all. I've never seen anybody talk about massive non-benefit. I know that Poliquin, the reason why there was a period of time that I started taking hyper-dosing omega-3s because polyquin did mention something about it. Like 20 grams or something. So literally I have days I take omega-3s and then I just have days where I pop eight capsules

just for the fuck of it, right? I don't feel anything, but I do think because like some weeks I don't eat a lot of fish or whatever, it's something that I could easily not get enough of and yeah. So I do think for most people it is underrated because it's not one of the sexy supplements, but it can have a benefit. Yeah, I do know Paula Quinn was a huge fan of Omega-3s as well as Ian Danny and some

of like Paula Quinn's like understudies and stuff. But when it comes to like these different fats, I just – it's hard for me to make sense of like our hunter-gatherers like really needing like access to so many different sources of food. Like, I need salmon today. Like you got what you got, right? And I don't know the body – human body can like make certain things and stuff like that, but I don't think it's critical by any means. But there does seem to be some research showing that it could be heart protective and stuff like that. We have had a couple people on the show talking against it. That is true.

I can't remember exactly who we had on, but we've had a couple people who've talked kind of poorly about it. One thing to consider with fish, and this is something that people have been mentioning a lot more recently, it's just like the world we live in now is pretty toxic. And they consider the ocean to be toxic soup, basically. So the fish that we eat are, you know, they're, they're not the same as they used to be. A lot of times the fish that we have access to and things like that, they're farm fed fish and they're not wild fish and things like that. So I'm just not a huge, huge proponent of fish oil. I've taken it many times over the years, haven't noticed a ton of differences. I'll just kind of finish on this point though. A lot of people do swear by it, and they believe that it can help with inflammation.

And some people even think it can help a lot with gut health. Yeah, I'll just say overrated because I think fish is overrated. And therefore, omega-3s are now overrated. I dig it. I don't need any reason for it. Next one. Okay, so maybe we can say—all right, I'll just say vegetable oil. Oh, the dangers of vegetable oil.

Okay, that's what it was. In what context? So, yeah, are we going to die if we use cooking spray? Mark says overrated. I'd say overrated. The tranny one. Okay, oddly enough, oddly enough, I will say underrated. The tranny one. Okay. Oddly enough, oddly enough, I will say underrated. This is the thing.

It's like, you know what? You want to go first on this one? Sure. You know, we've talked to a lot of people. We've had, you know, I still get hit up by past guests that we had for people to come on the show and talk about this more. But, like, I really can't take any more of it because I just think it's, uh, it's like too much out in the weeds, you know? Um, I think that sometime in the future, we will find out more about some of these things. Um, I don't think

they're detrimental. However, I do think that processed foods are a problem, and this is where we see a lot of these seed oils in a lot of the products that we consume. I think Lane Norton's done a good job of pointing out that I always talk about carbs, or in the past I talked a lot about lowering your carbs. But a lot of these things that have carbs in them, they also have fats in them. Something like a Ritz cracker or Cheez-It or something like that. It has a good amount of calories coming from fat. And a lot of times those fat calories are coming from these oils. And so it would be easy to blame those oils on like, hey, look at this soybean oil or canola oil. Like this is the devil. devil. But again, I think if you're eating healthy and you're eating reasonable amounts of food and you're not overeating, then anything that might come into the body that would be toxic, I think

the body can handle pretty well. I think the body is designed for that. So that would be where I go with that one. Adjusting my rating to perfectly rated. And this is the reason why like when a lot of people do talk about vegetable oils, they try to like when a lot of people do talk about vegetable oils they try to like put a lot of things as the the vegetable oil is the reason why this is happening and like you mentioned i don't necessarily think that's the reason i think it's there can be an overconsumption because a lot of people do eat food out a lot and a lot of food is just basked in that shit personally i do avoid using vegetable oils at home. And I know that when I eat out, I'm going to get vegetable oil in it, but

I'm cool with that. But one thing I notice, especially when I eat, when I eat out, I don't feel as good the next day. It also depends on what I eat. You also might be eating more when you go out. But when I eat some of these foods that I know are really oily, etc.,

I don't feel as good as when I cook certain things at home. And so it happens that when I cook at home, I eat a lot of fat, but I don't use vegetable oil. I can cook a lot of stuff without the use of it. So the thing is, is I think it is something to keep your eye on. It doesn't mean that you need to get rid of all vegetable oils or think that this is the one thing that's going to change your health, but there's no harm in avoiding it. And it's not going to, it's not difficult to avoid vegetable oil. So I choose not to just because of the things that I've heard. Um, and there can be a benefit to that, but I don't think it's, it is the one big reason. There's so many other habits that we talked about on the show that are going to lead to way worse outcomes, snacking a lot, overconsumption, not getting sleep, right?

These are bigger pillars above avoiding vegetable oil. So, you know, I think it's perfectly rated. Yeah, I would say it's perfectly rated as well. One thing like for myself, I've gotten rid of like I use the example of cooking spray. So I don't know if that comes equipped with like other things. But I noticed that since I got rid of that, like my stomach has been a lot better. Like it's been improving a lot. But using butter instead of like a cooking spray or something, vegetable oil, whatever you want to call it, I feel a little bit better.

You know, like it was a noticeable difference to never want to use anything else. You know, like it was a noticeable difference to never want to use anything else. And again, I know that could be something in cooking spray because like I don't even remember what kind like PAM or whatever it is, you know, the nonstick stuff. But yeah, I took it out and I felt better. So I think it's perfectly rated because you can learn like what products have vegetable oils and just avoid them and see how you feel. Yeah. And if you feel better or you don't feel a difference, then you can bring them avoid them and see how you feel. Yeah. And if you feel better or you don't feel a difference, then you can bring them back and then see how you feel. Okay.

You feel the same? Like, well, okay, you're good. You don't need to have to worry about it. But what you said is huge though is because if we cook at home, my son, he eats what we put in front of him. He'll eat steak and he's fucking having a great time. My wife took him yesterday to a restaurant and they had like just like plain pork tacos. Right.

So nothing crazy, just some tacos. Yeah. This morning he woke up with a very upset stomach and it's like, oh shit, like what happened? What did we change? What did we change? It's like, oh, like we did eat our, you guys ate, you know, outside of the house. It's like, well, we don't know exactly what that was cooked in. or you guys ate outside of the house.

It's like, well, we don't know exactly what that was cooked in. So maybe the vegetable oil that was used to prep whatever it was part of that meal kind of upset his stomach. So again, I think it's perfectly rated because it can jack some people up, and for other people it doesn't matter. But I don't think it's going to kill. You know what I mean? Like some people that we've had on the podcast, it was like the end of the world if you had vegetable oil.

And it's like, well, maybe for some people not for everybody i would kind of put it in a similar category as like diet soda and things like that like if it's if you're currently eating something that has some sort of vegetable oil in it but it's productive in keeping you on your diet plan which is probably highly unlikely but if you're able to still stay on your diet plan, which is probably highly unlikely. But if you're able to still stay on your diet plan and you're able to still be at like either maintenance calories or be in a caloric deficit, please don't change anything about what it is you're doing because I think that's your safest bet is to figure out a way to manage your calories.

But most of the time, these products are kind of more in a category of promoting overeating. All right, next topic or supplement. Kratom. Overrated, underrated, perfectly rated. Oh, man. Put that at a P. I had to go with underrated just because I think that people still don't know about it. Still don't know about the amazing properties of this plant.

And, of course, you could fucking overdo it. We've seen people overdo it um we you know seen people overdo i know people overdone it i've overdone it myself um in like even like testing it out and things like that and trying to make sure it's you know somewhat safe for people but uh you know i do think people need to have caution with any of the supplements that are going to kind of like uh be brain oriented you know uh just because you hear that alpha-GPC, you know, is a great nootropic or any of these stimulants of the mind and stuff like that too. I think all of them kind of fall in a category of – and even caffeine and energy drinks and pre-workouts and stuff like that. They feel good.

It's good to feel good. But then you also have to kind of recognize, hey, if something's going to make you feel good, there's probably some negative in there somewhere. So there's give and take with everything. I myself try to use Kratom as responsibly as I can. We have some of it sitting on the table right here and I'll take tiny sips of it. When I go and run, I'll take tiny sips of it. Sometimes before a workout, I'll take tiny sips of it. And that adds up quick. That's going to add up to be a lot. So I have to be conscious and cautious of how much of it I take. We have people that call often. They'll call our customer service with MindBullet and they'll say, hey, is this product addictive? And we'll

say, yes, it is. And some people will be like, okay, thanks. And that's it. And'll say, hey, is this product addictive? And we'll say, yes, it is. And some people will be like, okay, thanks. And that's it. And other people, they want to find out more, but I'm not about to lie to people. It is addictive. It does have addictive properties. It does make you feel good. So even in that of itself, because it makes you feel good, you're going to want to come back for more. And so there is a little caution with it, but I still think it's underrated because so many people are in so much pain and the opioid crisis in this country is wild. So many people are dying from opioids and I think that Kratom can really be helpful to a lot of people. I just convinced Nsema down a bottle.

There's a third. Your third bottle? No, no, no. A third of it. This is the double shot it this thing kratom feels really fucking good and that's like almost the problem you know like when you take a lot of things you don't feel as we were mentioning earlier yeah a lot of things like creatine you don't feel it protein powder protein don't feel it kratom

it feels really good because like the distinct thing about it and we've mentioned this multiple times and we mentioned it to guests because guests will come onto the podcast and they'll take a little bit. We'll always tell them, you feel like you want to give somebody a hug or I feel like I want to give my mom a call and tell her I love her. It puts you in a really good mood. Now, I've never gotten addicted to it. I take it like I forgot to take it today. And when you were mentioning, I'm like, let me take a little bit. I feel a little bit good.

But because it makes you feel good, you'm like, let me take a little bit, feel a little bit good. Um, but because it makes you feel good, you want to seek that feeling good all the time. And then you can definitely overdo it. That's why, like, I mean, you said you're taking it every other day. Now I'm taking it like every few days too,

because like, even though you can feel really good overdoing, it is not good. Right. So you got to be cognizant about how you do certain things, even fucking that that energy drink right there you know what i mean like i won't have that thing after a certain time of the day you know like but it feels good but it doesn't feel doesn't make you feel as good as that but

that's the thing it's like you need to be careful but with careful use i think it's so beneficial before my last jujitsu tournament i was taking sips of it i took a sip of it in the morning and i was taking a little few sips before each match just to put me in a very happy, good mood because I roll better when I feel a little bit better, right? So it can definitely have performance enhancing effects because of your mood. But when you try to seek that feeling with a supplement all the time, that's when you're in a problem. So you got to be smart. You got to be smart. And anything that's going to help blunt pain, which MindBullet Kratom can do. Yes.

Again, there's a cost to that too. We know there's a cost to, you know, take an aspirin and ibuprofen and these things. So you, you always want to have a little bit of caution with it. It's a great product and it can help put you in a good mood. It can help block a little bit of pain. It could help maybe relax you in certain situations. But, you know, do your best to try to be in control of that. Yeah, I'll say underrated because you do some research online and it quickly goes to it's great for addicts. It's like an opiate or whatever.

All these things like for pain. And it's like, well, shit, dude, like I'm not an addict. I don't have that much pain. Like, I don't think this is for me. Meanwhile, this person is going to go to work, go to the office. They're going to do something that requires a lot of focus. And whole my gosh, when it talks, when you, when it comes to like getting in the flow state or zoning in and getting a lot of work done, I haven't, I haven't taken anything that works as good as, as a mind bullet. Now I do, I've man, I might take it once or twice a month. Like I don't really take it that often. I've never felt the dependency on

it. Um, but I, I do like it a lot for getting a lot of work done. It does put you in a really good mood. Um, I would say the most I was taking it was back when I was doing a lot of work done. It does put you in a really good mood. Um, I would say the most I was taking it was back when I was doing a lot of the, uh, uh, uh, hustle mania videos. Cause right. Those were, those took a long time to put together, but I would just sit there and listen to music for like four hours. Just like just loving the beats that I would put into that, into those videos. And that was such a huge part of that whole series. And people would always comment about like, Oh, I can't believe you put, you know, whatever song on this video. That's so dope. And so, uh, it just really puts you in the zone and it really makes you enjoy

what you're doing. And that doesn't necessarily have to be, uh, a physical thing. It can be something that you're working on, like at a desk and they are writing, Oh my gosh, I can't imagine how good it would be while trying to write stuff down and get some other work done so yeah i think it's underrated because i don't think that's the first thing that people go to is like the productivity boost that you get when you take it you want to get the dishes done and laundry done take some kratom yeah all right let's see oh this is a great one because you mentioned it, Mark. Over, under, perfectly rated on protein powder. Oh, man. I'm going to go with the under. Underrated all around.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think, you know, so protein powder for some people that maybe are kind of unaware, like protein powder has changed so much over the years. are kind of unaware like protein powder has changed so much over the years uh when i first started like uh with like metrics and stuff like that like man protein powder was not very good it tasted pretty gross yeah i remember and you had to mix it with like a lot of different things to like try to blunt the flavor and you know you had to do you had to like a chemistry set to try to figure out how to make the thing taste halfway decent. Nowadays, you can just add some water or add your favorite kind of milk to your protein shake, shake it up or blend it up, and it can be absolutely amazing. I don't think that people really understand the power and the impact that protein has on your nutrition. We talk all the time about protein leveraging and by simply eating more protein and increasing the amount of the protein percentage that you eat, it can help drive down

calories. It can help with satiation. And then another thing that a protein shake does that's a little different than maybe some other things that you have access to is it's going to sometimes when you're on a diet plan, you don't have a lot of sweet stuff. Maybe you have diet soda here and there or something like that. But most of the things that you eat, you know, you're going to be eating different kinds of chicken, different kinds of fish, vegetables, maybe some red meat, maybe some eggs. And most of the things are pretty like savory. And to kind of flip everything on its head now, you know, with a good protein powder, you can have a good chocolate flavor. You can mix PB2 in there and have a chocolate peanut butter thing going on or whatever your favorite style is.

So I really love it for multiple reasons. It's helped so many people that I know lose weight. And there's so many options. You know, I have my own protein powders and stuff like that, but there's literally hundreds of companies that you can go to and try some different brands and try some different flavors. Yeah. It's, it's a, it's a crazy one. Last podcast, Andrew mentioned, you know, having a protein shake before you eat a meal, right? So that like you have that protein shake and then you eat your meal. Like sometimes if

you are dieting, you might feel super hungry. You might want something that's, uh, something that's like super calorically dense, but you have a protein shake first. It doesn't drive your hunger nearly as much. You actually feel like, okay, let me be reasonable with this meal I'm about to have. For some people that are like, oh, I can't get in the protein I need to get in. We do know, obviously you don't need a protein shake if you can get it through meat. But sometimes the amount of meat or protein you'll have to eat is a little bit too much.'s like you'll feel too full protein shakes make it super easy to get in that extra 30 40 50 60 70 grams of protein without like you know without taxing the actual food you have to eat so much so i think it's like protein shakes are underrated

because i still don't think people use them as much as you potentially could. And then, fuck, guys, get the Ninja Creamy. I won't go on too long. Get the Ninja Creamy because you can make some really good protein ice cream that actually has the texture of ice cream with it. Fuck. It's so good. It's so good. Show people how to use that thing, man.

That thing is incredible. That thing is absolutely incredible. And protein powders nowadays that thing, man. That thing is incredible. That thing is absolutely incredible. And protein powders nowadays, too, they don't kill your stomach. You used to be like, hey, this is a sure bet. I'm going to shit myself. I'm going to have some really hot farts, and they're going to stink really bad. But a lot of the protein powders of today, they have a lot less lactose in them. You can even buy ones that are lactose-free.

I've found a lot of people have a lot of success with the Steak Shake. They really like it a lot. It doesn't bother their stomach as much. It's got beef protein isolate. It has egg. It has whey in it. Those are all three of the most bioavailable amino acids that you can get from any foods. So you might want to look into a product like that. I also am making another Steak Shake version that doesn't even have whey in it. So it literally is – it just has beef protein isolate. I think I took out whey. I took out the egg.

I got rid of all allergens completely because Andrew told me a while back that his wife got some food allergies here and there. And I was like, you know what? There's a lot of people that have that. So I want it to be gluten-free, soy-free, whey-free, dairy-free, just bare bones. So it'll be beef protein isolate, collagen, and then it'll still have liver, kidney, heart, spleen, pancreas, and all that stuff in it to give it the extra nutrients. So curious how that's going to taste. That's fucking awesome, man. It is?

We nailed it, yeah. Are you just going to call it no way? That's a good idea. Oh, man. Now we've got to wait to publish this episode. Yeah, way underrated. Way underrated. Yeah, I'll just go on the fact that they taste amazing.

Like, when people go on a diet, they feel like, oh, I have to eat salads all day and I can't have fun. There's so many amazing things that you can make with protein powder. I mean, literally anything almost. You know, you could bake cakes with it or make muffins or something. You can make protein cookies. My wife used to make these, like, they're like, I forgot what they're actually called. But it's just like a ball of protein powder and, like, almonds and shit.

Like, it was like an energy ball. Is that that little peanut butter thing you gave us or that's something different? That's different. But I did try to make a protein version of that peanut butter cup and it didn't work out too well. But it was still good. But anyway, super underrated. And I think just like because we have a lot of picky eaters, right? People are like, I want to eat healthy, but I only like McDonald's.

It's like, well, you just make like, a you know the ice cream protein stuff or whatever like yeah greg du set has a bunch of recipes that you can make with protein powders no it's no way i can't do his voice you got to be more like the the bird from uh what's his red bird from fucking aladdin oh i don't know he's kind of gilbert godfrey that's right yeah all right let's move on uh yeah protein powder everybody go have a protein shake today uh fedogia agrestis and tongue cut ali actually i'm gonna i'm gonna say i know mark's gonna disagree with me on this one all All right, let me say this. Let me say this. Yo, I took that shit, that combo consistently for two months after week one.

Okay. Like, no, it didn't increase my test drastically. Like, whatever. It increased my luteinizing hormone. Fourfold. Increased my luteinizing hormone a lot, actually. And I still take Tonka and fedosia like every week but not every single day but just the sheer fact that my my nuts were so strong as in like like my

my orgasms okay they were so intense and it was a it was a drastic difference also i will say this my libido my libido when i use a bit of fedosia like you know my i was like okay i actually mentioned mason the homie mason over at san jose he mentioned the same shit like he's like it's you mean you still taking fedosia i'm like i'm like well what do you notice he's like i'm so fucking i'm so fucking like real talk like like for me personally man orgasms are just like ha like it's like uh it's oh it's it's it's crazy and that's how it should be sold then it should be sold for that because i'm just like you just convinced me i'm gonna start taking it my shit could hit another wall that's the best just off of that i don't give a fuck about the test like i don't uh underrated for sure for sure i'm changing my vote now i just say uh uh overrated simply

because people get so excited about testosterone that's true raising testosterone and then i think they they think there's a correlation to uh the same impact as you'd have with steroids. And I don't know if there's anybody out there claiming that or saying that. We've heard Andrew Huberman talk about Fidozia a lot. I need to stock up. We've heard other people talk about it a bunch. It's going to be sold out. And even as beneficial as it may be, it's not – I don't believe it's going to be like performance enhancing in terms of your performance

in a weight room but apparently it might be performance enhancing in some other way and that alone might be a reason to take it i mean fuck man what's wrong with uh having a little bit better sex drive and being able to put out a little bit more uh force yeah yeah so then with that in mind i'll say it's overrated but overrated because maybe it's not being marketed the correct way, which could be just like a bedroom enhancing supplement. Yo. Sounds great. This shit's crazy, dog.

Shit really does, yeah. It's wild. Are you guys ready to move on? Let's go. Moving on. All right. Green supplements. Mm.

Mm-hmm. I'll say it. Underrated from in chemo mark bail i think with some of these pedosia supplements you can't tell what's like i say underrated just because like i personally don't eat a crazy amount of greens i don't like get that in my diet naturally um Um, but I've been using, uh, I've been using some athletic greens and I've noticed, I've noticed a bit of a difference. I use it every single morning and it's like, it allows me to get in the things that I typically don't get in from, you know, the food I eat. And it's, it's simple. It's just a very fucking easy thing. I can add it to a protein shake or I can just take it in the morning and I've noticed the difference

myself. So I think for a lot of people that don't eat their fucking greens which i maybe should but i don't it's just an easy put it in 20 seconds get it in move on with your day right i actually meant to hold up underrated oh okay i messed up so i think it's i think just a lot of these things are just underrated simply because people just need better health practices. Yeah. You know, do Americans need to find more micronutrients and not have such macronutrient dense foods? Yeah, a hundred percent. You know, so if you can find a way to get in some good micronutrients where the calories aren't through the roof, then amen, brother.

I think that's great. And hopefully they're mixing in some other stuff in that shake that is making it worthwhile for them. Maybe they're adding some protein to it or something like that. Side note, Joel Green also has – if you guys have gone through his book, which I haven't gone through his book. It's so dense. But he talks about the red blends and all these different things and how the benefit on the gut microbiome and all that shit. I haven't gone that deep. I've just been using the athletic green stuff, but I dig it. I dig it. I think if you go down that route, there's probably some benefit there. So. Yeah. I'll say underrated. Um, like cause my wife, she's always trying to get me to eat

vegetables and stuff and I'm like, man, I'm not going to eat them. And so this is like a super easy way. And it's underrated because like you think greens and powder. Like, I don't know. Have you guys ever had spirulina powder before? I've had it, yeah. It's pretty terrible. Yeah. These athletic greens stuff don't taste anything like that.

They're like, they don't taste bad. You know, kind of like the protein powders back in the day. Like things have changed. And along with, like if you're going to be in the habit of of taking a green supplement you're probably going to get into a habit of taking other good things and so it's going to start help you know pushing you towards this direction instead of like having donuts for breakfast right like you might become a better person from simply just getting better habits and this could be you know one i know that sounds like a lot of a better person but like no like

you overall you have these better habits you're now walking you're eating right and you're you know covering all your bases with some greens my girl fucking hates it i shove it down her mouth every morning man the greens the greens my bad i love you It's kind of acting as like a multivitamin too. Yeah. Yeah. Power Project family. If you're trying to increase your muscle mass, if you're trying to lose body fat, if you're trying to stick to nutrition plan, if you're trying to get fit, pretty much if there's anything you're trying to do for your health, we know that sleep is the biggest determining factor to help you get from point A to point B. That's why we've been sleeping on eight sleep mattresses for probably more than two years now. And the main reason is the technology behind the Pod Pro.

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and you guys will automatically receive $150 off of your order. Again, eightsleep.com slash powerproject. Links to them down in the description as well as the podcast show notes. All right, then we'll flip it to the other side. Fruit is overrated, underrated, perfectly rated. Underrated. Underrated, yeah. Underrated for sure. I think fruit's underrated because it's, man, it's everywhere.

It's easily accessible. I just don't hear people talk about it enough. Fructose. Yeah. Well, fruit juice, you know, you might want to be cautious and conscious of how much of that you consume. But in terms of, like, actual fruit, eating an apple is going to be a little bit filling. Eating a banana, having these things around your workouts.

I found it really beneficial around some of the runs that I've been doing. Massively underrated, I think. A lot like people talk about, oh, don't go crazy with carbs or sweets or whatever, right? And there is an aspect of you don't want to go too crazy with carbs or sweets or whatever right and there is an aspect you don't want to go too crazy with the amount of carbs you today but like having some fruit it'll fill you up a bit like the fiber and the fruit you won't be going crazy on apples or whatever or like i'm gonna go home and don't make the stupid jokes in the comments but i'm gonna cut up some fucking watermelon because it's hydrating um and it's not crazy calorie dense right what

jokes would people have about watermelon you know the obvious ones let's not even go in there right but i'm not sure that you don't get seedless watermelon i don't even know what the watermelon i guess i don't know it has are you talking about because the girls crush it with their legs i've never been able to do that actually have you ever tried it i haven't i haven't actually i think i have tried it once years ago and i like think i pulled something in my adductor so i wasn know, I think these girls are cheating, because they use the watermelon that's a little bit almost like it's been there for a while. It's softer.

Questioning their strength. Let's see how it feels on my head. Performance-enhancing watermelon. Dude, I think watermelon in and of itself is an underrated fruit, because it tastes super good. And one thing, i love it i found that i've started eating more fruit over the years as i've started getting away from like sweet snacks and stuff and you start you start to realize how good it is oh yeah when you're not eating hyper

hyper palatable fucking sweets you're like damn this apple is actually fucking amazing you start to like really appreciate that shit so yeah yeah and then watermelon you can eat like the whole thing and it has like 50 calories right but like because there's so much water you actually will feel full eating a decent amount of watermelon and it's not a crazy amount of calories and it's sweet it's a little bit hippie-ish but go to a farmer's market and get some fruit it'll be so goddamn good and buy and try something different like if you if you're like man i don't know what the hell that is, ask the person what it is. Buy it. Try it.

Sometimes it's gross and weird. Every once in a while it's gross and weird. But you'll probably find something that's absolutely amazing. You guys ever hit up the Mexicans with carts that are selling the chopped up fruit? I haven't. Oh, my God, dude. It's so good. Yeah.

They throw spicy powder all over it. I do that with the watermelon. Amazing. Yeah. it's so good. Yeah. They throw like spicy powder all over it. I do that with the watermelon. Amazing. Yeah. So good. Yeah. I just crushed an entire bowl of berries and it did. So I have like my big breakfast and then I have some berries throughout the day or in

the middle of the day, dinner at night, and then probably some more fruit after that. It's just, they're so good. It's so underrated. My son crushes them. People will say like, they want to give him sweets. And I'm like, no, like he eats fruit. Like that's the sweets right now. You know, and he loves it.

It's amazing. Berries are also like a little bit of a freebie. On certain diet plans, some people are just like, hey, have at it. You could just eat as many as you want. Now, they do have some calories, but they mainly have water and fiber. Yeah. You can have like a pound of strawberries and it's like 100 calories or something. It's nothing.

Yeah. Moving on. This is a good one. Energy drinks slash pre-workouts. Hmm. I don't know if they go with. Here we go. Overrated.

Over. Oh. Yeah. Overrated. Over. Oh. Yeah. Overrated. Yeah, just overrated in the sense that, like, it seems like every kid that gets in the weight room, like, loves these things. You know, they seem to be so attached to them. And then some people, it kind of appears like they can't even really work out without it.

And I think that's getting yourself into a bad spot. Absolutely. You know, especially if you're younger, you got to be careful. I mean, I did some of the same shit, but like you have this stuff too late in the day, it's fucking with your sleep and your sleep is the biggest part of your recovery. When's the last time you had like an actual pre-workout? Well, I mean, you know, sometimes I'll have that, but I don't have that in the after. I don't have that before I actually work out.

I'll have that like when we're podcasting in the morning, I'll maybe have half of that energy drink. But an actual powdered, you know, bounce off the wall energy drink. No, I haven't had that shit. I've had a pre-workout in years. Same. I've had a pre-workout in years. Andrew?

I can't stomach them. Like I get too jittery and I just end up shitting the whole time without actually working out. Yeah. I think, I mean, that's kind of a good habit for us because like now we just associate working out with working out, not like we need our pre-workout. I'm not telling you guys not to get pre-workouts, but just be careful. Because there was a time when I was in my early 20s where if I didn't have my pre-workout, I got to the gym and shit wasn't in my car, I'd be like, fuck, bro.

It would really hurt the soul. So something you got to be careful with. And another thing, again, really be careful with these like our boy Wyatt oh man oh and two these guys are drinking three of these gorilla mind energy drinks a day that's 600 milligrams of caffeine 3,000 l times it's a lot like six and seven p.m at night night. I'm like, oh. Be careful. It's not bad, but it's also don't overdo it. Please. You got to protect your sleep.

Yes, because the half-life and then. Don't y'all feel old? You don't have to protect your sleep. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but the half-life and then quarter-life of, I forgot what guest just told us that. Joey Fergles. Half-life is 11 hours. Bergless. Yeah.

Bergless. Bergless. Bergless. Joey Fergless. Yeah-life is 11 hours. Fergless. Yeah. Fergless. Fergless. Fergless. Joey Fergless. Yeah. The half-life and quarter-life. I was like, damn, that's 12 hours.

That's tough. Yeah. All right. So no caffeine after 11 a.m. All right. So we have a whole other section. We're 45 minutes deep. Do you guys want to keep going?

Let's finish this. Okay. All right. Well, here we go. Hot fitness topics topics red light therapy what do we got what do we got what do we got i truly say underrated underrated i'll go here yeah i i think it's underrated because like okay there's a reason why like i don't talk a crazy amount about red light therapy even though i have two juve devices at home it's because it's so

fringe and it's such a hard thing to like tell people the benefits of like you mentioned it people are like you're bullshitting me fuck you you fucking scam artist i'm like i'm just never gonna talk about this i've been using who are you talking to oh my gosh no no no whenever i really mean whenever i've mentioned red light therapy even though there's a lot of research about it it has it actually is beneficial for you it is a price to it um and it's something hard to tell somebody like it's not at the top of the list of something i tell somebody to do to really increase their performance but it does have good effects on inflammation it does have

good effects on your hormones it is beneficial your skin um i use my fucking device five days a week but i'm not going to tell somebody you have to do this but is it beneficial yes is it something that is going to be hard for somebody to believe that actually works it's red light so yes i do think it's underrated but you know it is what it is i've seen it be i said overrated only just because you know there's people just like hawking the product and yep i do think it has value but it's unfortunately um the price is still pretty high i think it's coming down which is nice but it's uh fairly expensive and i don't really know if people are going to really feel it you know maybe some people do but i don't know if you're going to really feel it and uh for myself i like to feel stuff you know the cold therapy i'm

like nope i feel that going into the sauna i feel that going into the sauna. I feel that going into my hot tub. I feel that Kratom. I feel that, you know, those are all the things that I can actually like feel and quantify. Um, but when it comes to the red light, I don't really feel it, but I have noticed some improvements on some stuff. Um, I've had like different issues with like skin, uh, you know, the blisters i had on my feet recently it seemed like they recovered faster when i did use the red light therapy um my wife's had like little injuries i've had little injuries where i'm like i because i have one i'm like i might as well go use it i'll just use it on my elbow or something and i'll just stand in front of it for a couple minutes

again i'm not necessarily like oh my god my Holy shit. Like it's way better now after three minutes of the red light. It doesn't really feel like it has that impact, but it does seem to speed recovery in some way. So I think it's pretty cool. Add in on that thing you mentioned about like skin cuts, all that type of shit. That shit does recover faster on me. Like I've noticed it. But again, it's not something I go talking about a crazy amount because people are going to be like, you're a crazy person with that shit. Nah, it's legit. But you don about a crazy amount because people are going to be like, you're a crazy person with that shit. Nah, it's legit.

But you don't need to go out and buy a device. You need to fucking get good sleep and all that shit. But it is a good additive. Yeah, I say underrated because when I do it, I do feel great. I don't do it enough. And the one thing this might be, so many other factors could come into this. But when I do use it, my son gets super excited and he wants to be in front of it. It could be just because it's a weird looking red light,

but my dogs, they do the same. They go nuts and they just like want to get in front of it and just stand there or sit there. I mean, and I'm like, they don't do this for anything else. And I'm like,

is it? No, it's not that it's too cold in here. And it, you know, puts off some heat. I'm like, I think they just,

they're drawn to it because they, they like the way it feels as well. So that's like kind of like my biggest thing where I'm like, okay think they just, they're drawn to it because they like the way it feels as well. So that's like kind of like my biggest thing where I'm like, okay, there's something special here. My dogs do the same. If I leave the door open and like they see the red light, they'll come in and they'll just sit right in front of me. They're fucking huskies, right?

These things like to run, but they will just sit in front of me and just like, just stare. It's weird. So anyway, do take that with what you will, but let's get on to the next one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, let's see. Well, let's see. It's well, okay. It's weird. So anyway, do take that with what you will, but let's get on to the next one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

All right. Let's see. Well, let's see. It's well, okay. Longevity. So I guess maybe like biohacking type stuff. Like Dave Asprey type stuff. I won't go on too long with this.

Why underrated? Underrated because I think that sometimes when we do certain things, and you might think I kind of stupid because like I talk about jujitsu, right? What's longevity? I think we do, we should think of like the impact of the things we're going for in the long term because at least for me, the things I do right now, I want to be able to do them when I'm much older. So I'm doing things in a way that will allow me to last. I'm not going crazy with anything. I'm pushing myself, but not pushing myself to the point where I could get injured. I'm making sure that longevity is in mind with everything that I do. And I think we all are.

I think that should just kind of maybe be at the top of mind for more people. Because you might love something right now, but think about this. Can you keep the capacity or can you keep this capacity for a while? And will it do you good in the long run? If you keep that in mind, you might change the capacity or can you keep this capacity for a while and will it do you good in the long run? If you keep that in mind, you might change the way you do things. And I think most of us don't think of things in that way. That's really well said. I just said overrated just because of the different biohacking stuff that you see and hear so much about. Red light therapy. Yeah. I don't really think that's where somebody should start. And as Nsema was pointing out, Red light therapy. a major contributor. I think people still don't want to get their phones out of the room. I still don't want to get their phones out of their hands, but they still don't want to listen to the advice

of like, don't lay down and watch TV in your bed and don't lay down in your bed and, and, uh, and, and mess around with your phone. I think that like, as humans, we kind of hate being kind of told what to do and especially what not to do sometimes like, fuck you, I'm going to do what I want, but your sleep, I really think it's do whatever i want but your sleep i really think it's important to try to protect your sleep in some ways and um in most age groups that people are in like most of the people listening to the show you supposedly need that's a strong word but you need like seven to nine hours of sleep for a lot of people listening to the show you probably have to lie down for nine hours every

night to try to figure out how to, you know, get that seven to eight hours because it doesn't always work out so perfectly, right? There's just not enough people considering the power and impact of what that can do for your longevity, how that can help your stress mitigation every single day. that can help your stress mitigation every single day. So I think that it's cool to look at longevity, but I also think there's just a lot of promotion of a lot of stuff that I think like walking is longevity, lifting is longevity. The shit that we talk about is for longevity. It's going to help with bone density and strength. We talk all the time about strength is never weakness. Weakness is never strength. You know, what are the what's the number one thing that is the number one kind of ailment or number one thing that older people are facing? What's the difference between someone that's 75 years old that has 40 pounds of extra weight on them versus someone that's 25 years old and has the same amount of extra body weight on them? that's 25 years old and has the same amount of extra body weight on them. The person that's older has less muscle mass because they're not as strong anymore because they're not,

they're not moving around. It's not just the body fat. So we think that the country is getting fatter and fatter and fatter. And that kind of is happening to a certain extent, but people are also losing muscle. We're under muscled. We don't have enough strength. You start to lose that muscle where you don't have the signal of strength. And so for me, I just think that sometimes we look at the longevity stuff in a really weird way. We think we need to buy some expensive equipment or machines and do these weird voodoo things. But if we just do simple stuff that people that been here long before us that had success with longevity have done, then I think we'll be on the right track.

Yeah, I'll just quickly say overrated because what we were talking about on our run, sometimes these people that focus on it are like, I don't want to gain too much muscle because it's not good for longevity. And it's like, man, I think we can all agree that that sounds a little silly. So moving on. Anyway, good one. TRT. Where's this fucking overrated trt i'd say overrated as well i just again just you know the internet gets a hold of these things

and then it gets kind of passed around and you know i think uh the trt craze i think got kicked off from my brother's movie Bigger Stronger Faster where he talked about TRT clinics and in the movie and he even asked the guy in the movie asked the doctor he's like you guys sell steroids right and the guy's like no not really and my brother's like no but really you do sell steroids and I think that people are just thinking that TRT is gonna be like this magic thing that people do. But you're going to see a lot of these people, a lot of these men, these women that are

talking a lot about TRT, probably not really make that big of changes. Again, it's going to be your habits. Your habits are going to be the things that are going to really, quote unquote, move the needle for you more so than anything. The TRT stuff can be really helpful. Obviously, balancing your hormones, optimizing your hormones, that is not what I'm talking about, about some of it being overrated. I just think that people think that they're going to take some TRT and that they're going to all of a sudden get in magnificent shape. When it comes to losing body fat, there's so many different routes to go when it comes to losing body fat, there's so many different routes to go when it comes to losing body fat that don't really have a lot to do with taking testosterone, which is normally

what these TRT clinics are going to give you. There's really not a great drug in terms of like fat burning. There's now some of the TRT clinics do have access to things like semaglutide, which can help your hunger and can seems to be able to help. But again, I just think a lot of this is overblown. Get your habits in check. I would say even get your habits in check before you go to TRT. I would say get your blood work done. Go through Merrick Health.

Get the blood panel that we offer. Check that stuff out. Communicate with the doctor. Communicate with the health coach and talk it over and see where your levels are. But I don't think you should go and hop on a bunch of drugs at that moment. I think you should get your habits intact first. Do that once you learn where your blood's at and start to make improvements there. And I bet you, you can improve your blood work without TRT. I read a comment last time we were talking about this from our boy, Brian Boudreau. And he actually did get on TRT, but he was mentioning he wished he did that, like worked on his habits first.

But this was a comment on our video recently, all about testosterone. It was a podcast that we had a lot of different people on. From Black Jack's Armory. When I was 42, my test test was 320 i'm three years full carnivore and i lost 50 pounds and i've put on 17 pounds of muscle in the last two years naturally i work out every day and now my testosterone at 45 is 6a80 i eat workout and sleep it works but y'all saw that three years this is is the thing. My testosterone is like,

we got it checked in the midday. It was 700. His testosterone is not much away from mine and he's 45. But guess what? His habits are in check. I think because TRTs become so popular, people have underestimated the amount of difference that good habits, good nutrition, working out, losing body fat can have on your test. That shit can take you from a person with low testosterone to a person with good to high testosterone, but it takes time. And the thing is, is like taking something, taking time, it's kind of sucks. You know what I mean? It kind of sucks, but in the long run, you're still going to be able to produce your own testosterone. I don't think TRT is bad. We know how beneficial and life-changing it can be for people. So many people in the audience have mentioned getting on TRT and it turning their life around. And that's

fucking awesome. But not everybody needs TRT for that to happen. What you do need is you need to change your lifestyle habits, your nutritional habits, your sleep, all the, if you change these things and you actually give yourself the time to do it and you're diligent, man, you can change your life. You don't, and then TRT is the card you can pull later in life. I may still pull that card when I'm like 50 or 60 or something. I don't want to have to, but if I do, I will fucking do it. But I'm definitely happy that I have the habits because of all the things we talk about that I don't have to pull that card at 30. Yeah. And just, I'll add TRT can ironically help you with those habits. You can. That's what I was going to say. But you still need to, like, you still need to work for

it. You still need to do it. Like you, you've been working on it and you've been doing it forever. Like you've been working on these things for a long time. So once you decided to do that and go that route, it wasn't like all this stuff was new for you. You're like, what, I can't drink beer anymore? I mean, these guys, they're thinking they're going to have their normal weekend playing golf and stuff like that and still eat like shit, eat nachos and drink beer. And they're not going to make any real changes to their body in my opinion yeah no i was just gonna joke and be like for that guy making that much progress natural would have made more progress if he did hop on but it's right the habits though would have to be there so all i'll say is that you know testosterone or trt isn't

everything but it helps everything you know if you start doing the things and then you add that in then it's just going to boost everything um so i i don't know if i would say underrated or perfectly rated but i just think that yeah like i said like it can help everything and so it's like if you're already on a good war path and then you add this it's like holy holy shit, you're really going at light speed now. But, of course, habits have to be there. I think we've kind of stressed that quite a bit. And if you wanted to help more, just take a little more. Just a little bit more. Next topic.

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It was undecided. Over, over all around. Okay, I'll be quick with this shit. I like watching highlights. So when the fucking basketball playoffs come around, I can't sit down and watch the full fucking game, but I'll watch those highlights because I love seeing my man LeBron do his thing. Right.

And a bunch of other athletes. Like it's cool to do that. But some people live and die by this shit. That's a tough one. I do love sports though. Yeah, I love sports. I don't think the players are overrated by any means. I admire what they do.

I love watching all different kinds of sports. I could sit there and get lost kind of watching like tennis or something. I'll watch just about any means. I admire what they do. I love watching all different kinds of sports. I could sit there and get lost kind of watching like tennis or something. I'll watch just about any sport. I really do enjoy it a lot, but I see people putting so much stock in their team winning and then how well their guy does or, or, uh, people are in these fantasy leagues and stuff like that too. And it's just crazy. Like I, I really do like sports a lot i'm a huge fan i love watching people smack home runs and i love watching certain pitchers and baseball and stuff and i don't even like baseball that much i'm not going to sit there and watch baseball uh for a long period of time but i do admire it i'm like man look at how well these guys move look at the way this guy can swing

or the way this guy can throw a ball. It's just really awesome. And then UFC, I love watching UFC, but my night is not going to be ruined by watching my favorite guy, watching Bones Jones or something like that just because he loses or just because he wins. I'm not going to get wavered from that. And so for that reason,

I kind of think sports are overrated in a lot of ways yeah by the way just if if you guys don't like soccer i get it but go watch a compilation of leo messi juking fuckers with a soccer ball and tell me the same foot with the same foot different feet that man is the best ever there's a lot of times he's just using the same foot though right like he just uses i forget which foot it is i think he's left-footed but he's just using the same foot though, right? Like he just uses, I forget which foot it is. I think he's left footed, but he's as good as his right as he is with his left. That's the thing with him. He's like, he has a dominant foot,

but the way he moves literally, because I played soccer for so long, I'll watch that shit and I'll just have tears well up a little bit because it's just beautiful, bro. So anyway. Yeah. Way overrated. And that's coming from somebody who used to i would wake up

sports radio all day long and then i'd be on twitter following all my favorite teams your team losing ruin your week my team losing would ruin everything like especially in football season if the niners lost i would just mad the whole week and then when like basketball season would butt up against football season it was like double whammy because i'm a kings fan so it's like they were always they're always losing and then when they got good they lost and then now they got good again and they lost they fucking lost to uh the warriors but um it's just crazy because like again i was this person but could you imagine wanting to fight another man because

that team's jersey and this team's jersey and this is a group of men that will never know who you are but you are down to like get into a physical altercation because this person said something bad about your team's color or whatever you know like it's so stupid square up bro yeah yeah it's like square it down let's fucking go yeah i remember talking shit to a bunch of laker fans at a game once and see you in the parking lot like fuck you all right let's do it but oh my god so silly and just such a time waster especially um sorry dude but baseball like it's like one game is like all day and it's like i'm watching the game. Can't do anything. You know.

And they play, like, fucking 1,000 games a year. So it's like, dude, like, oh, my, it's not worth it. Like, it's such a time waste. And, like, it means nothing. It means absolutely nothing. Some people are so bummed listening to us right now. I know. Like, these guys suck.

Sorry. Sorry, y'all. I'm a highlight king, though. All right. What's the next one? Okay, my bad. Cold plunging. Cold plunging. Cold plung'm a highlight king, though. All right. What's the next one? Okay, my bad. Cold plunging. Cold plunging.

I'm going to be real, yo. I'm going to be so real. Under, over. You're saying over? All right. Why? Why? Oh, just because it's like just so much on the internet.

I don't think people can stand one more cold plunge. It's true. But I will say that I do think it has a lot of positive impact. And just even from a mental perspective, it seems to be pretty awesome. Yeah. I know it's all over the place. I know every fucking fitness influencer is talking about cold plunging for their mental energy.

Yeah, yeah. But yo, training as much as I do and the amount of fatigue I get on my body, the cold plunge has really made a big difference. I'm doing a lot of jujitsu. I'm getting in, I'm getting in the gym. It has, you've mentioned it before how like after a hard run or something, you'll get in there and afterwards you just, you just feel better. The inflammation's down, you recover faster. I'm so thankful that actually we were able to start doing this a while ago and that we're on the cold plunge train. I know it's trendy. I get it. But at the end of the day, I don't give a fuck if something's trendy, if it's making a difference

for my performance, I really don't. I'll be that guy. I think it's underrated. And I know some people, you may not be able to get in a cold plunge or whatever. I get it. That it's, it is what it is. But if you are able to at some point and you're an athlete, it will benefit you. That's it. Yeah. I love the, I've mentioned it many times before, but like the mental benefits, you know, I've tried a bunch of stuff to help put me in a better mood or whatever. They all can't even get close to this. And then also, um, you know, kind of like, I've never really done too many difficult things in my life. I have a pretty good life. Um, I noticed that like more people signed up in my division for my tournament

coming up and I'm like, these fuckers aren't getting into a cold plunge. I jumped right in because I'm doing the hard thing that they're not willing to do. There's some mental toughness. I don't know if it's mental toughness, but there's some thing going on there where you're like, not a lot of people are willing to do this.

I'm going to go do it right now. Then you come out of it and you feel like a freaking superhero it feels incredible yeah cool uh sauna i don't know anything about sauna dude also underrated under yeah i would say underrated okay i don't have a sauna at home and i hope i'm going to i want to get one soon plunge just came out with one so i'm gonna try to get my hands on that fucking sauna but um, um, if there's a day that I just like, I'm not recovered well, I'm feeling kind of fatigued. I'll go to this Asha spot in Sacramento. I'll go hop in a sauna. I'm able to get a good sweat in. It's able to replicate some type of exercise without me actually exercising. So, I mean, especially, I mean, I feel like for older individuals, especially it could be a game

changer to allow them to actually really sweat and breathe hard. Get their heart rate up a little bit. Get their heart rate up. You know, in those Finnish countries, they sauna so much and they have very good longevity in those countries. So I know getting an at-home sauna is tough, but many gyms, like 24-Hour Fitness Cal fits, they have saunas in there. Step in there if you can. You know, just on the same note as the cold plunge, I think something that we forget is these things have been around for a long time. Athletes jumping into cold water, like the little tubs in the training room and stuff, has been around for a long time.

People have been getting into saunas for a really long time. The only thing I don't love about the sauna is I just don't hear as many people talk about a hot tub. And I think, I think a hot tub is like, maybe, maybe it doesn't have the same benefit because you're not maybe breathing the same way and stuff, but man, they both feel really relaxing. And in my opinion, both of them are really good ways to end your day or end your night. And you would think, man, if I go into the sauna, I'm going to get all sweaty and hot and stuff. But a few moments after, you know, after you've been out for 20 minutes or so, your body temperature will react to that heat. And as a result, you'll actually start to cool down even more.

You could even just take a shower, you know, and you'll feel a lot better. But I do that a lot with a hot tub. I'll go in my hot tub for 20 minutes or so. And it just relaxes me. And I'd sweat a little bit. I get hot, I get warm. And then I'll usually just, uh, hop in the shower. And the sauna is something that I'll use in the winter time a lot, especially like to wake myself up. And I'll sometimes go back and forth. I'm very fortunate to have both. I would go back and forth between that and the cold plunge and that'll really wake me the fuck up yeah i don't have much experience with it but i i remember jumping into a steam room back in the day like how's that is

that in comparison steam rooms are generally because the um the it is more humid in a steam room the temperature is actually lower than it typically is in a sauna but it feels hotter because of the humidity in the room so steam rooms are also good they'll help they'll make you sweat temperature isn't as high as a sauna or as a good sauna but like it's still great if you can get in It feels hotter because of the humidity in the room. So steam rooms are also good. They'll make you sweat. Temperature isn't as high as a sauna or as a good sauna, but like it's still great if you can get in one, you know? Yeah, this is an obvious one. Barefoot slash wide toe box shoes. Be easy with this one.

I'd say underrated. Yeah, more people need to know about it. I mean people in our space know about it, but I can't tell you guys how many people I've told in person, you know, what to do with their feet, and it's making huge differences. There's one woman that is like a family friend that I've been talking with a lot, and her foot pain is just crazy. She was a longtime runner for many, many years. She was a marathoner. She did ultras.

She did all kinds of stuff. Her feet got super jacked up. She went to the super padded stuff, you know, really stacked stuff under her feet. And then she's walking around her house with shoes on because her feet hurt so bad. Her toes were overlapping. I saw her yesterday and she showed me her foot and her big toe is no longer like crisscrossing with the second toe. So not every woman shows me their feet right away, but that's the relationship I have with this one.

And it's just cool to see those improvements. And so I think more people need to know about barefoot shoes. Getting her into proper shoes was really important. So she switched to an ultra shoe. She also has a Vivos as well to allow the toes to naturally splay out. I don't know if you guys have been – if you're a new listener, maybe not. But like we've been talking about this so much because it's an implement that – I mean oddly enough, you made that shoe with Reebok many years ago. That powerlifting shoe is very wide toe box, right?

But we made that switch maybe two and a half, three years ago. And it's been huge because the feet are so much stronger. The balance is so much better. Everything has improved because the feet have gotten stronger. So I know that as I get older, right? I'm not going to need arch support. When I was a teenager, I was told I need arch support because I had flat feet. I don't.

It was just because I had weak feet. So there are so many things you can do to strengthen your feet. Wearing barefoot shoes and going barefoot is one of them. And you will reap the benefits in the long term if you can make that adjustment. And, yeah, it is underrated because when I'm out and about, most people aren't wearing barefoot-type shoes. You know what I mean? We are those weirdos now. But it's because it actually is one of those things that has a long-term benefit.

now, but it's because it actually is one of those things that has a long-term benefit. One of my friends who plays tennis, his whole inside of both of his feet was just on the ground. Like the insides of his feet, like his inside ankle bone was like literally on the ground. He had these like kind of pancaked feet, just these big old fat round circular feet look like an elephant's foot. And, uh, you know, know he started he started practicing some of the wex stuff with the um with the uh rope flow he started messing around with some of that toe spacers um getting himself out of shoes getting wide toe box shoes and now his foot isn't completely like cured where he's got this like really amazing arch or anything but but he's, he's been able to take his foot and pull his foot up with his own strength and keep an actual arch in there. And now he's playing tennis at a different

level that he was playing, but he's already amazing at tennis, but he's a tennis instructor and he's showing people, you know, how to play tennis and stuff like that. Now he's able to participate and go back and forth with these kids without having nearly as much pain so it sounds ridiculous but it can have a huge impact and imagine if it's having an impact on your foot it's having an impact on your knee on your hip on your lower back everywhere yeah so was he in pain prior to that yeah he was in tons of pain yeah that's crazy yeah obviously underrated everybody wants to wear high-heeled triangle looking shoes because they look good and they don't even consider that, you know, like,

oh, your feet aren't supposed to hurt all the time? Like, no, because you got to wear, you know, shoes that fit your feet a lot better. Right. All right, moving on. Natty or not. So I guess Natty or not videos on the internet. Over

for Mark. Well, over, over all around yeah i like i think they're fun but like to be perfectly honest like you it's tough i i get the fun of speculating on somebody but i do think that like you know you don't know how long someone's been doing something you know what i mean and if if if popular people do think someone is doing that and then they're labeled like that, that's no good because people have been doing shit for a long time. People have different genetics. So I don't know.

They're fun videos, but I do think the stock and truth that people put into these videos are overrated. It's a little too gossipy for my liking. Yeah. And I kind of don't like seeing people try to drag other people down, so I don't dig it. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't like the fact that somebody might be able to learn something from somebody, but because of a Natty or Not video and they're whatever claims to be Natty and they're not, and then it's like, oh, throw everything out. I was like, well, fuck, what if there was something good that could have like really helped you out yeah but you threw it all out because it's natty or not video says that they're lying i understand it's fun and it's like some entertainment people are you know kind of messing with each other so i understand that people sometimes like watching that friction or hearing that friction. People love drama. Yeah, I don't like it personally.

All right, here we go. Tren. Steroids. Overrated, underrated. Tren's perfect. I think people already know. Tren's perfectly rated. What do you think?

Yeah, I don't even know where to go with this one. We got the trend twins, dog. They're twins. Yeah, I think trend has a little too much behind it. And it is as powerful as advertised. Unfortunately, it's just fucking shitty for you. I want to read you guys a quick comment from Eric Lillibridge Jr who commented

it hurts a lot of people it's not great Ernie Lillibridge Jr commented on the Pete Rubish podcast excellent interview and enjoyed it very much me personally I don't like Trent mainly leads to injuries it does have a bad reputation because people abuse the shit out of it taking doses just fit for horses.

If it was used correctly, say 10 to 20 milligrams daily slash microdosing, you would be okay. I know the majority of believes Tren is the best for strength, but to me it's not. There are other supplements out there that are superior with way less side effects

like Ment, a.k.a. Trestelone, for example, will blow Tren out of the water for strength. I don't know if i should have read that you can go to markbeltpowerproduct.com receive 50 off all the mint uh yeah yeah i think that's an oral steroid that's not from here it's from ernie guys okay figure out how to get me some yeah uh man i i don't know anything about like i don't know trend but it seems like steroids get a bad rep on like in um like public i guess all media or whatever because everyone thinks you're gonna get roid rage and you're gonna get a heart attack

and stuff and i know we have a lot of examples these days, but I don't know, man, it seems like that you can do them intelligently and kind of get a lot of benefits and not get too much sidetracked. But I don't know, I guess maybe I'll say perfectly rated. Cause like for those that abuse them, you get what you pay for, whatever,

you know what I mean? Like you did this to yourself, like, you know, what's coming. If you do it smartly, maybe through a doctor, then, you know know you can use it responsibly but trend but trend though does it hurt when you have to inject that how would i know allegedly yeah does it hurt

yeah yeah any you know so any of the fast acting steroids, they all kind of hurt a little bit. So Tren is usually Tren that has a fast-acting ester attached to it. You can get different kinds, though. But yeah, it usually hurts a little bit. You guys don't need to go do Tren. No one needs to do Tren. Yeah, I don't think it's a good bet. Steroids are really interesting just in general, and steroid cycles are really interesting in general.

And I think people will always be fascinated by them. They're always going to want to try to learn more about it. I think the negatives of it, I think, have been overhyped for many, many years. But I think there still is a lot of caution associated with it. And for a guy that's 20 or 30 years old, just randomly hopping on some stuff. And it, it just, you know, I always kind of think about like, you know, what are you going to do? What are you going to do next? Like what's next after that? You know, you just, you just did this, this is a card that you played. Maybe it'd be better to hold that card back for a while until you might feel one day that you actually need it.

But can you enjoy training? Can you make progress? Can you have some good habits now and work through it? And even with lifting and something like a pre-workout, just for God's sake, just go in the gym and just work out for like 10 minutes. Do a set of lat pull-downs. Do a set of tricep extensions, do some hammer curls, do three rounds of that. And then do you still need the pre-workout? You probably don't.

You're probably be inspired enough to just get going on your own. So, uh, you know, I started taking stuff when I was, you know, in my, in my mid twenties, 25 years old, but I already been lifting since I was about 12 years old. So I already had many years of lifting. I had some habits intact and I felt like I was an adult. I didn't, wasn't living with my parents or anything like that. I was living on my own and I was trying to make my own decisions. And I thought that was the best for me.

And I don't have any regrets about it. I feel comfortable about it, but there are a lot of precautions and you should research it a lot if you're going to ever take them. Let's go. I think that was it. Andrew, take us on out of here, buddy. Thank you, everybody for checking out today's episode. Let us know what you guys think. Were we way off? Were we perfectly

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