Mark Bell's Power Project - Peptides, Bioregulators, Hormones and the Future of Human Optimization

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

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We should really examine our lives from a standpoint of like, do we wake up in the morning and feel good? This product, this five stage agonist, GLP-1 peptide will change bodybuilding, it will change performance enhancement because it literally will be a drug that people can take though they lose fat and build muscle at the same time. What causes hair loss is blood flow restriction to the scalp.

If you add Cardilex to that GHKCU BPC and TB 500 blend, I will flat out tell you that that is the strongest healing stack known to man right now. The fourth density beings that are higher than us, which is going on right now, I mean, all you have to do is look at COVID, you can look at adrenochrome harvesting, sex trafficking, organ harvesting, all of that stuff.

We're in a society today, again, this instant gratification society, where not enough people serve others. The truth is, is the majority of chemicals that are manufactured into raw ingredients for pharmaceuticals and research does come from either India or China. I have so many friends that give their dogs BBC and TB 500.

Did I know people that give their dogs DECA and testosterone? Yo, Jay Campbell, welcome to the show. Mark Bell, thank know people that give their dogs, you know, DECA and testosterone. Yo. Jay Campbell, welcome to the show. Mark Bell, thank you so much for having me. It's an honor. I would like to start out by talking a little bit about like these bioregulators.

I kind of find some of the, some of this, like, I guess, maybe it's not even new, but like newer stuff to me. I find some of this stuff interesting. What's a, we know a little bit about peptides because we've had other guests on the show talk about peptides, but what are bioregulators? So bioregulators are a very interesting form of peptide. They come out of Russia, really Bulgaria and Russia,

and there's actually 60 years of research on them. Dr. Victor Cavinson, may he rest in peace or rest in power as we say now, who died in December of 2023, is kind of the father of bioregulators. He owned all the patents in Russia and in the East. And since his death, they've come into North America and the West and you see them everywhere now. Of course, my company of course promotes and sells them. But they're basically oral capsules. There's also injectable forms that are now just starting to come into the market. But

if we look at like peptides versus bioregulators is like chains of amino acids or signaling molecules the oral bioregulators are shorter chains Where the injectable versions are longer chains and these are not they're not steroids Are they illegal like are they illegal like for the Olympics or NCAA or UFC? So it depends on who you ask. They're technically by grasp listed and marked as supplements. So for example, when we sell them from bio-longevity labs, they're basically like selling supplements or Amazon, just like you sell.

So there's no regulations against them. However, if you really look at the pharmacokinetics and molecular dynamics of them, they are similar to a drug and their mechanism of action. I love talking about bioregulators because not enough people, as you just said, know about them, but I see them as becoming a massive sweeping change in our space over the next three to five years. And for one reason only, they're orals, right?

And as you know, the barrier of entry is injectables. 80% of the population is not going to inject themselves. It doesn't matter what you and I show them or what? Research comes out. It's just a phobia of injecting themselves But the barrier of entry from a swallowing a supplement is obviously much smaller So most people will take them but when you look at their mechanism of action, it's mostly for people to upregulate or improve or even enhance Signaling as we age right so like a man

I use this as an example a man can take a prostate Bioregulator as they're in their 40s and 50s and it will work on reducing the size of the prostate Because as you know, and I'm sure you've had many people come on the show and talk about it as a man gets older It's statistically proven that if you live till 80, it's like a 90% chance You're gonna have a mild form of prostate cancer, right? So the reality is is that it's just a vestigial organ in our body that increases in size and swells as we get older So if you could take a supplement so to speak a bi regulator and by the way the one that I'm talking about is called Libidon that goes to work in from a natural cascade and process of shrinking the prostate as you get older

I mean what's better than that right because no man Myself included in their 50s and 60s wants to wake up three times a night to take a piss When this product can actually reduce the size of it and make you you know Go to the bathroom to urinate maybe once and perhaps maybe maybe not even once you can sleep the whole the whole night Any type of drawbacks to these so so far? No And again because they're organic signaling molecules, um, and they're also, which I should talk about their tissue specific.

So it's kind of amazing. So if you look at a little bit like a SARM, if you look at, yeah, but SARMs are, I don't want to compare SARMs to bioregulators because SARMs have down regulation issues and down, you know, call it receptor level. They have, there's a lot of things that happen from a cascade standpoint downstream that cause bad effects. We can talk about SARMS, we can go down that path if you want.

But bioregulators, in that they're designed to be tissue specific, they don't break down in the human body like Rockefeller Petroleum District or Big Pharma Medications do, which those leave a petroleum or oil-based residue, which as you know, cause harmful side effects in other systems. Whereas bioregulators, like if it's designed for the kidney, or if it's designed for the prostate, or it's designed for the woman's ovaries or the man's testes, it literally,

specifically from a mechanism of action standpoint, targets that area and doesn't leave behind any harmful residue that could cause side effects downstream, which SARMs do, a lot of big pharma medications do. How long have these been a thing? Because SARMs started getting popular figures back, right? And I don't want to, I just want people to be careful, right? So how long have these been a thing? How much research is done into them? And as far as you know, there's no risks necessarily,

but we should always be careful with what we ingest. Yeah, I mean, of course. I mean, if you want to go down the rabbit hole with SARMs, I'm like one of the biggest anti-SARMs people on the planet because they're horrible. They're worthless, actually. They cause so many negative side effects. I mean, again, I have a lot of amazing doctors in my network

and those guys will tell you stories of young men and women Sadly coming into their offices and practices with completely crashed, you know Blood fats hepatic function. I mean you name it like just horrible things and that's the problem with those drugs and you know And I don't know why people have never understood this but SARMs are all orphaned big Pharmaceutical drugs that somebody picked up you know an underground steroid bodybuilding dealer or you know anybody else on the internet that wanted to sell these things and of course they do offer you know anabolic cascade pathway derived effects positively but the negative side effects that they

cause that again are all downstream and later are so bad that you would never ever want to recommend a sarm to anybody over therapeutic testosterone because obviously the side effects Completely outweigh the positives but to your question because it's a great question There's over 60 years of research on bioregulators. And again, it comes from Russia. It comes from Bulgaria It we used to say six or seven years ago because I knew about these, you know One of my business partners and a great formulator shout out to Nick Andrews It comes from Bulgaria. We used to say six or seven years ago, because I knew about these. One of my business partners and a great formulator,

shout out to Nick Andrews, we knew about them back in 2016 and 2017, but you couldn't get them into the United States because Cavinson had put down very powerful patents to prevent them from coming out of the Eastern Bloc. So you couldn't get them. If you wanted to use a bioregulator, then you'd have to go into the motherland of Russia or even into Bulgaria

Lot via places like that in the Eastern Bloc that were that had these but now that we have AI Right, you can translate all these studies So, you know, it's very simple to go through a lot of this information that they have, you know, it's garden variety You know in the research slash clinical space in Russia, and again, Bulgaria, Latvia, whatever, and see the information they have on people using these. And from what I understand, and again, I've never been to Russia, I wanna go, it's a bucket place,

but you can get these from pretty much any pharmacy over the counter in Russia, and they're just garden variety like aspirin. So with understanding that, knowing what I know about them, because I've been experimenting them personally and obviously with my clients and our you know Buyers and you know, even my inner circle for the last Two and a half years since they really started coming into the marketplace. I haven't heard of anything but good stuff

It's really difficult to overdose on them because the way they're recommended is like you take two a day for ten days And then you take ten days off or if you take a stack you take maybe one of each You know at a various point in time in a day same thing Ten days if it's for maintenance and for just general health and if it's acutely injured or acute You know autoimmune disease or some form of disease you might do it for 30 days in a row But it's not something like an oral steroid or again, an oral sarm where people are gonna take more to hopefully get better, you know what I mean?

So it's just like, you just take a very micro, call it a surgically precise micro dose of one or two capsules and you do it over this amount of time and then you kind of assess what's happening. So again, like if we're looking at a male's prostate, do you notice better stream in your urine? Are you emptying faster? Is it less bladder or incontinence or something like that?

So you can see this. And it's the same thing with the eyes. I think you and I were talking about the eyes. And again, shout out to Chris Gathin because Chris and I are very good friends. He said, by the way, tell him, smelly bell. I said, what's up, Mike? But anyway, he said to me the other day that what because we just did a retreat together in Tulum

He said that he used sigamir and cartilax Which is the one I've been telling you about which we can talk about on the show because I think it's a game-changer for Bioregulators and he said he got a better effect and read and strengthening his shoulder Then he was getting from BPC and TV 500 and copper peptide GHKCU, which he was using as a blend to inject. And so he's like, I'm really a big proponent of these. And unfortunately, not enough people know, but that's another example of like,

if you use that for say 30 days and you get regeneration in your shoulder or more range of motion or something like that, I think you have a good idea, you know it's working. And people may have heard of the Wolverine stack, the BPC and the TB 500 what what are those things do and then what is the copper peptide do and then if you take it a step further and talk about that other one. Cardillax. Yeah so that's a great question so where

we're going with this is you can now inject well first off the original Wolverine stack which I've been writing about literally on my website you know I did a podcast with Ben Greenfield back in 2017 and we started talking about this to the world and everybody like started using it And you know the powerlifting community started using it the bodybuilding community started using it And again just for the record for the show. I literally have been using injectable peptides research peptides since 2004 Okay, so I've been in this game for literally two decades So I mean I've used everything, experimented with pretty much everything.

My first peptide that I've injected was Zipramarylin, but to your question, BPC and TB500 are the tried and true Wolverine stack. You get BPC body protective compound 157 is literally increasing angiogenesis, increasing red blood cell formation, and TB500, which is thymus and beta is suppressing cytokines Increasing interleukin and of course suppressing inflammation altogether. So together synergistically They do a lot for healing if you add copper peptide GHK Cu which I call the sham wow peptides because it also increases angiogenesis. It improves red blood cells

It causes hair regrowth, it eliminates fine lines and wrinkles on the skin, it does a lot of things. If you add that into it, you get a deeper and more enhanced effect. And my company right now, BioLongevity Labs, we're actually selling that product, we call it the Glow Protocol or the Glow, I forget what it says, the Glow Something.

I wonder if it's a little related to grounding in some way, like the copper wire, the grounding, the copper in it says, the glow something. I wonder if it's a little related to grounding in some way, like the copper wire, you know, the grounding, you know, the copper in your shoes that people are doing. Well, copper, I mean, copper's in our blood, right? So like, you know, it's interesting because there's a lot of people selling copper peptide, GHKCU in the market that are selling ineffective products because it doesn't have the necessary grade.

So for everybody listening to this podcast, to understand whether or not you're getting GHKCU at a level that it will be effective, doesn't have the necessary grade. So for everybody listening to this podcast, to understand whether or not you're getting GHKCU at a level that it will be effective, if it's not a 3% grade or better, it's worthless. And 90% of the companies that are out there selling GHKCU do not have 3% grade, because it's expensive to manufacture.

Without like turning this into a commercial, you know, your company seems amazing because you're picking up the best of the best along the way. You know, have Alex Keekle is one of your formulators and you have some of the best chemists. And every time I talk to you, you're like, oh yeah, we picked that guy up.

We hired this guy. So you guys are diligently trying to provide the best of the best. And I appreciate you saying that. And yeah, I don't want to make a commercial. I want this to be as unbiased as possible, but I've had a goal in my life for, since I got into this space, probably 30 years ago,

that I wanted to eventually create, I think the best way for people to understand it is the Amazon for biohackers, right? So whether you're a performance enhanced athlete, a bodybuilder, a strong man, or just a general everyday, Joe or Jane who wants to improve their life and live longer, stronger, we're going to

sell products that can help you do that. And yes, exactly. We we only surround ourselves with the best we only pick the best products everybody that we everything that we create is literally manufactured and synthesized in the United States. Now people will hear that they'll be like, Oh, Jay Campbell's full of shit. Because everything comes out of China. The truth is, is the majority of chemicals that are manufactured into raw ingredients

for pharmaceuticals and research does come from either India or China, okay? Majority China. Now, but as you guys know now with the Trump tariffs and all the stuff that's going on, that is minimizing. So what you're seeing now in the United States is smart companies of which we're affiliated with who are jumping into the fray to say,

oh no, we're gonna manufacture this here, and everything will be controlled here, and we will synthesize our rawls too. So I can honestly tell you guys that we are working with two companies right now in the United States that are synthesizing the rawls. So when we say that we manufacture in the USA, we're not bullshitting, okay?

There are definitely some products that still have to come out of China because nobody's making them in the United States yet, but they are being made here. And I think you guys know this, but they are being made here. And I think you guys know this, you know this from your company. When you can control and isolate the sterility process,

the certification, the GMP, all that stuff, you're in a far better situation than buying something that comes out of China which you have no control over. And to be very truthful, the majority of people that sell peptides online today, and I have no only love for all of those people because they're helping people,

whether they come from China, the majority of those people are not making them in very sterile processes, right? They're making them wherever they make them, whether it's somebody's basement, somebody's kitchen, you know, an underground garage, whatever. So you do have to be very cautious, as I say, buyer beware today of where you get your stuff.

You know, always make sure that you're looking at certificates of authenticity, verified lab analysis. Just make sure that people are doing independent testing. But to say that, there's also a lot of great companies in the space that do do all that. So I think we can go wherever we want with this podcast, but I think a lot of people will ask at times, what's the difference between buying a compounded version

of a peptide versus a research peptide and truthfully there's not much difference Provided that where you're getting your peptides are coming from verifiable sources And I think that's what people you know as a consumer really has to be cautious of because you know this I mean you and I've been talking about this for months now Peptides are blowing up and in the next six months to 12 months as by regulators come into the marketplace It's even gonna just it's gonna gamify that so it's like if you're a buyer Slash a consumer and you're in that space Make sure you know where you're getting your products from because there will definitely be people that are selling again risky

You know less Qualified less controlled less rigorous as far as from a testing standpoint. So just make sure that you know where you're getting your products from. When it comes to Cardilex, what's that able to provide for people? Now that we just ended that rabbit hole. Cardilex is an incredible bioregulator that people are just starting to find out about.

Again, Chris Gathin used it. He said it completely helped him regenerate his right shoulder beyond what BPC and TB 500 has normally done from him. And Chris is a good friend and been using peptides since probably like 2019, 2018. Everywhere he goes on podcasts around the world, which he does many, he says, you know, Jay Campbell and Nick Andrews got me on BPC and TB 500 and it regenerated my tricep.

I detached my triceps and literally I was retouched in four months. So he's like a giant peptide of Angeles again I love him. He's a good friend of mine great person But obviously now many bodybuilders many performance enhancing the athletes and people just in our space are using these things with great great Effect not enough people know about cartilax and let me just say this and again this is a bro comment and I'm obviously a personal opinion, but They call it cartilax for a reason, right? The holy grail in our space is like being able

to regenerate cartilage, right? If you have compressed spine, if you guys have compressed spine from doing heavy squats or heavy deads or whatever, you know, over time, you know, that intervertebral space and that, you know, the intercranial disc space and the synovial fluid and the joint capsules, when you get bone on bonebone you can't do shit

Right. There's nothing there's people out there saying oh you can take stem cells or you know PRP or Exosomes are all these different things Plasmoforesis, but if you don't have the space in the joint you're pretty much not gonna get a lot of benefit and a lot of healing effect My opinion based on what I'm seeing what I'm hearing if, if you use cartilax, you might, and I'm not saying guaranteed, but you might get cartilage regeneration. If not cartilage regeneration, cartilage rebirthing, and actually, let's just call it stronger nerve fiber bundles

at the cellular network signaling. So if you took cartilax, and again, by the way, right now, cartilax is an injectable bioregulator. Again, it's aqueous based, so it's water. It's just like the Orals. There's no side effects, because it's again designed to regenerate and helpfully strengthen cardio as a person ages.

If you add Cardilax to that GHKCU BPC and TB 500 blend, I will flat out tell you that that is the strongest healing stack known to man right now and Unfortunately, not enough people know about this But if everyone started adding cartilages to that stack They would probably see regeneration and healing the likes of they've never seen before and this is by the way for older people too Like 60s 70s, you know long-term, you know hardcore trainees, you know strong men and stuff like that Like they can probably see incredible change by doing that.

How does this compare? I mean, I don't know. Even if you can't compare it to something like stem cell treatment, that's something that a lot of people are getting done now. And when we talk about regeneration, a lot of people's minds go there, especially in like the grappling communities, a lot of guys get stem cell work. Right. So with a stack like this, what do you see? What are your thoughts? So I think, again, so stem cells are great.

Exosomes are great. Again, it comes down to how much space do they have. Because a lot of people use them for bone-on-bone degradation. So let's say you're somebody who's been a long-term heavy squatter, heavy deadlifter, and you've got no space in the know, in the, in the, uh, sacks in the lower back and say, Oh, four L five. And you know, people are telling you like,

you just have constant pain because your bone on bone stem cells are not going to do Jack. Okay. Now there's a lot of people out there that will tell you they will cause they want your money and they want you to come to Honduras or Panama or Costa Rica. But in truth, you won't see much benefit from that now if you don't have that issue stem cells are amazing There's tons of MMA guys going to Mexico. They're going to Panama. I mean of course. I know all these companies I want them to mention any of their names And they'd all do a great job But to your original question if you really want to do this the right way you would probably want to do and again

You didn't have bone on bone, you would want to do a combination of stems and PRP and exosomes. And then also, from a maintenance standpoint, do the BPC, TB 500, GHKC, and Cardilax. In fact, I would tell you that all of us as guys in our 50s, and I know you're not that old yet, but as we age with the wear and tear from lifting and training and doing cardio and doing all the things that we do just living I think cartilax BPC TB 500 and GH case would be something that you do probably monthly and when I say monthly I mean like a very low maintenance dose like a very surgically precise dose So that you know if if you're injecting it, you know

Just for maintenance you probably want to take it like once or twice a week And if you get seriously injured, you're probably gonna inject it, you know three or four days a week until your pain and Stiffness goes away quick question to sure Do you when when when analyzing some of this stuff? Do you have guys get imaging done or is it like you just pay attention to how these areas feel and you should be? Feeling better over time. I think both I think it's a great question I mean you want to always track and understand what's happening to you.

And if you can use an MRI, there's all these new digital technologies are coming into the marketplace. I think it's great. But at the end of the day, knowing your body and how you feel, like we say in the therapeutic hormone world, we say the twofold goal of therapeutic hormones

is happiness and balance. And I've changed it to say joy because happiness is a transient state, right? Where joy is a chosen state of being. So that's kind of how you want to be. Are you joyful? Do you feel balanced? Like that to me, you know,

when I say if you're joyful and balanced, obviously you're free of aches and pains, right? So that's kind of the way to kind of look at it. But I think that, you know, it's probably if you've severely injured yourself or you have severe wear and tear, I think it's always a good idea to look at it at least once a year to see what's happening Most people that I know and I'm sure you guys have heard these stories too

Who go to general orthopedic surgeons and people that are, you know involved in rehabilitation when they have a severe injury They always freak out when they see a person who's used GHK BPC and TV 500 in fact, one of my good friends in when they see a person who's used GHK, BPC and TB 500. In fact, one of my good friends in Tampa, and you might know him, his name is Matt Christman. He's a very big PEMF guy. He does a lot of bodybuilders and stuff like that, but he comes and works on me at Monaco once a week. I love Matt, shout out to Matt. He tore his distal quadricep,

saving his dog from a water moccasin attack. I think I told you about this guy, right? Yeah, and so he's a big dude, he's a bodybuilder, and he tore it in half, and it happened at the end of February, and he literally has been using our stacks and all the peptides and the cartilax and the peptides that we've been talking about, and I mean, dude,

his radiologist and his orthopedic surgeon literally just saw him for a two-month checkup, and they said they've never seen anything like this. You'll seeing him because he's being recording the whole thing and tracking everything and you know doing V logs and stuff like that And he's gonna post all this when he gets back to full recovery, but peptides Bioregulators obviously the other stuff you're talking about if you do that kind of stuff Well, you're talking about 20 years in front of allopathic medicine, especially The way orthopedic surgery is now.

In fact, we could talk about this. I think if you're an orthopedic surgeon and you replace people's knees and you replace people's elbows and you replace people's ankles and hips and all these things, you're now at a serious moral quandary in your life because is it better for you to order this $100,000,

$120,000, $90,000, you know, insurance subrogated surgery, which obviously you make a lot of money, the hospital makes money, the insurance makes money, versus ordering a $1,500 regimen of BPC, TB 500, GHK, and Cardalax, you know what I mean? And I think you probably know her, maybe you've had her on our show,

Dr. Elizabeth Yer from Mile High. I'll introduce you to her, she'd know her. Maybe you've had her on our show. Dr. Elizabeth Yer from Mile High. I'll introduce you to her. She'd be great. You want to bring her on the show. She'd be awesome to come on the show. But she's an amazing orthopedic surgeon, well renowned. She's in Colorado. And she's also a big peptide person.

And she, you know, I was just on a panel with her at the Olympia last year. And we talked about this. And she's like, it's very difficult for me to say to a 50-year-old man or woman, and again, like me and you, in good shape, conditioned, single-digit body fat, to have an ACL replacement when you can do this,

because she can theoretically prove that you're gonna probably get the same level of tissue regeneration and repair from the peptides than you would from me replacing your joint with a cadaver graft or something like that or your own. So it gets really weird nowadays, whereas obviously you guys know 10 to 15, 20 years ago it was always surgery, replace it, put it now,

but now we have these technologies that are so badass and so productive that you really do have to kind of wait what's more, what's a better move, right? Like clearly someone who's in their early 20s or late teens and is a aspiring athlete and destroys it, you know, like a lot of women tear their ACL, it's going to be better to have a surgery and then to heal with the things that we're talking about. But somebody our age nowadays, it might not be because the surgeries are very difficult to recover from. And again, you're talking about repairing and replacing a tendon with a graft on a person who's in their 50s

And we don't have the tensile strength and the muscles that we had in our early, you know 20s and late teens So it is I think becoming a more quandary and I would say within 10 years I would say that hopefully again Hopefully that orthopedes are so skilled and so good at this now that they can pretty much tell the difference of whether or not they need to actually do a full replacement or just use peptides and bioregulators. What about regenerating? Because you regenerate all kinds of stuff. What about hair?

Seems like there's been a lot of progress. You wanna get on that rabbit hole with me. So I love talking about hair. So my original company that I sold in 2022, which was called a CIR, a S E I R people asked what the hell does the seer mean? And it's literally the Viking gods. That's what the seer were. Right. And that came from my ex business partner, Nick Andrews is ideas because

he's a big ginger guy. And he's all into the Vikings and the Scandinavians and stuff. But we had a patented hair regrowth product. And that's the reason we were able to sell our company for as much as we did when we did. And we were one of the first companies, I think, maybe the only company that got a patent on a peptide-based hair regrowth product. And guess what was in that?

Copper peptide GHKCU, right? And then we also had Carbon-60. We had some other stuff in it that allowed us to patent it and sell it But here's the truth We've now come a long way that product was built in 2019 and again going back to GHKU It has to have a 3% blend of copper peptide or better. It's really much pretty much ineffective You can now do 10% Yeah, we sold it still exists, but don But don't even get into that company at this point.

There's now people out there, including us, building 10% grades of copper peptide GHKCU. So if you take a 10% grade and then you add all these new bioregulators, growth factors, and new hair regrowth peptides, which we don't have to get into names of them, but they're all now coming into the marketplace. I'm not joking when I say this. You could probably regrow hair on a cue ball. So when we built that product, which was again called Oxano Grow,

there were three different variations of it. We always tested and you and I were talking about this this morning on our walk. It's always going to be based on does a person male or woman have active follicles in the scalp or are they chromed out? And if you had active follicles, our product would regrow the hair, okay? If you didn't have active follicles, then you'd probably be up against it,

it'd be a lot harder. But this product that we're making at BioLongevity Labs that Alex and I are essentially co-created, and Alex again being the master formulator, his know his ideas I added like three different things to it I promise you guys to the world to everyone listening to this It will literally regrow hair on a bald head because there's gonna be so many growth factors So many peptides so many amazing things that will stimulate angiogenesis stimulate follicular

Regrowth and nerve root regeneration that your hair will regrow. So we're very close, and when I say very close, I would say within the next two to three years, hair transplants will be a thing of the past. People will not have to go to Turkey and spend three to $5,000 to get hair regrowth. That would be amazing. Yeah, it's coming.

I mean, we're there. I mean, in theory, there's nothing in the actual marketplace right now that's out there for people to do this. Now, people we're there. I mean, in theory, there's nothing in the actual marketplace right now that's out there for people to do this. Now, people are gonna hear me say this, and they're gonna say, Jay Campbell's full of shit. His other product, he was full of shit. It never worked.

And we always tell people this, and this is the truth about hair regrowth and hair loss itself. Most people do not understand why hair loss happens. And hair loss happens, well, let me ask you guys, why does hair loss happen? Let me see? Well, let me ask you guys. Why does hair loss happen? Let me see if you guys know the answer to this. I Think it's probably pretty genetic. That's a factor. What else?

Hi testosterone DHT So that's what most people think and that's what actually allopathic medicine thinks too, but that's actually fundamentally not true Alright, we've been trying to build up our feet for a long time, trying to make some changes to our feet. And Seema, what are some differences you've seen with wearing some Vivo barefoot? Yo, well, it's kind of crazy, because I was a soccer player my whole life,

and I thought I had strong feet until I started actually doing foot exercises and strengthening the feet and wearing barefoot shoes. And first thing I want to mention is like, when you guys start wearing barefoot shoes, And first thing I want to mention is like, when you guys start wearing barefoot shoes, have other options because these shoes are flat, which allows your foot to like really work on the ground. They're flexible, so your toes are going to be curling more

when you take each step, right? And they're wide, so your foot's going to be getting more action than ever. So it's a good idea to, you know, have your barefoot shoe, but then have something else that allows your foot a little bit of a break. But man, for me, in jujitsu, my feet now work like hands. So now when I'm playing my guard,

my feet are grabbing the opponent. That's a little scary. It is, it is. And people feel weird when my toes grab onto them, but it's because every single day, I walk around in barefoot shoes, and they're getting stronger as I just take my 10 minute, 20 minute walks.

I think it's amazing. I've known a lot of things about fitness for a really long time, but I did not know what a weak point my feet were. And my feet used to hurt all the time. I had like a callus thing on the side of it that was always just bugging me. I tried to get wider and wider shoes.

Plantar fasciitis. I went all the way up to getting like a 13 and a half shoe, which I don't need a 13 and a half shoe. I got no business wearing that size, but I was trying to way up to getting like a 13 and a half shoe, which I don't need a 13 and a half shoe. I got no business wearing that size, but I was trying to make up for, I needed like more width, but most of the shoes don't have it. And people like Chuck Taylors, they like Vans,

they like Nikes, but almost all those shoes are fairly narrow and they're kind of hurting people's feet. And so you want better feet, get yourself a pair of Evos. What causes hair loss is blood flow restriction to the scalp. So as we get older, we get less blood flow to the scalp. How does that happen? There's millions of reasons, right?

We don't have to go into them. I mean, you can get heavy metal poisoning, mold toxicity. There's so many other things, sun exposure, being out without wearing a hat. Obviously there's androgenic alopecia, which is what you said, genetic, which some men have. I mean, there's a lot of factors that increase thinning and increase balding and hair deposition as we get older. But the truth, or excuse me, loss as we get older.

But the truth is, is it's all due to the blood flow restriction to the scalp. So if we could stop an increase, I'm sorry, stop blood loss and increase blood flow to the scalp, we would never, even if we had a genetic predisposition, we would never actually lose all of our hair. So if you now understand that and you start doing things to increase blood flow, obviously through peptides, through PRP, through injections, stem cell injections, through all these different things, exosomes, along with all of these new growth factors

and bioregulators, and again, exogenous, or call them exotic peptides that most people don't know about, you can completely regenerate hair. And that's where we're at. So, I mean, is there any, again, when I hear some of these things, it's awesome, but then I also, again, wonder drawbacks. Are there any drawbacks to driving excess blood to the scalp an area where like your brain your eyes, etc

There is there anything that you just need to keep in mind? No, because it means a good question, but no because you're not driving anything To that in excess you're driving you're driving what isn't there to be there So again with and let's go down the whole DHT therapy of hair loss. So most doctors, most people in the hair loss space think that because what happens is in the scalp as we get older, DHT can diminutize the follicles

in the scalp and the follicles can get smaller and eventually fall out. And that's why drugs like finasteride, which by the way is a horrible toxic drug. Post-finasteride syndrome has killed two of my good friends. I mean, that's a rabbit hole. I don't wanna get going on that. I could do a whole podcast on that.

But those drugs, those DHT inhibiting drugs are literally cell toxins. They take years off of people's lives. They're horrible. If you're using finasteride or deutasteride, even topically, you should stop using it because it's really, really bad. And people will come at us and say, yeah, but Jay, it stops my hair loss and I don't want my hair to fall out. But here's the problem. The way that stuff works, it does target the receptors, the follicular receptors. When you stop taking

it, guess what happens? It stops targeting the receptors and all of the diminutized follicles that it was attached to now fall out. So if you've ever talked to anybody that took that and stopped taking it, they also complain about the hair loss that happens right after it. And so, and by the way, which is crazy, and I did not know this, and I should have known this, they prescribe these things to women as much as they do men.

So there are millions, I'm not joking when I say this, there are millions of women out there taking DHT inhibitors, right? So this is so toxic to their hormones, I mean to their sexual function, to their brain wave functioning. I mean this stuff does horrible things to the brain. That's what post-finasteride syndrome is, right?

Like one guy can do one week of finasteride and literally be, have a predisposition to that screwing up his brain and becomes permanently depressed. Not only does he become permanently depressed, he also becomes sexually dysfunctional. I mean, I've helped so many people. Alex has helped a lot of people with PFS too. Guys have to have penis implants

because their dick won't work. I mean, that's how bad these drugs are, right? So to your question, your original question, it's a good question because you've heard of these downstream signaling effects that those drugs do cause. And when you're taking, again, natural agents like peptides or bioregulators or stem cells or any of these things, exosomes,

the reality is that in the scalp where somebody who's bald or is suffering from premature graying or premature thinning, all you're doing is getting them back to a healthy cellular level. When they were supposed to be like, say, in their 16 to 20 years of age, when they had like the top natural production of blood, lymph and all the other stuff that goes to the scalp.

So that's what these things are doing. Sign me up, dog. Yeah, no, I mean, I'm not joking. Like you will probably be one of the people that will want to get this when it comes out. Now, here's the thing, and I just told you this earlier today, this is going to be a very expensive product.

Because the average person will not be able to afford this. Now, eventually they will, but initially, and I'm kind of letting the monkey out of the bag, but we've priced this product out, and we will have the number one hair regrowth product in the history of mankind for a short time until somebody beats us, I would say soon, and that product is literally going to cost $1,000.

Now, it'll last anywhere from 60 to 90 days, depending on your level of thinning or if you're completely bald, but the truth is, is like when you compare it to a hair transplant, it's cheap, right? $1,000, 60, 90 days? I mean, it's not that bad, right? No, but I mean, most people complain, right? Because what they do is they compare it

to like a cost of DHT inhibitor like finasteride or whatever. Monoxidil, they get monoxidil at the grocery store and they can get that for 60 bucks and that's 90 days, right? So they compare that to that and they're like, oh, these guys are ripping us off, this is BS. But the truth is, is like at a thousand bucks, we don't even have a five X profit

margin. That's how much it costs to make this product because just call it, it's a kitchen sink, hairy growth product. And it'll be, like I said, you know, I mean, I know somebody will be this because something better will come. That's just the way the world is. But this will be, when it first comes out, it will be best in class because it has everything that you could put in it and everything is synergistic What's up with this kitchen sink fat-burning muscle gain product that you're? Coming up with to man

So so so so basically the holy grail right now in the performance enhancement slash GLP one using world is a Four or five stage agonist right because right now we have a three stage agonist that most people know about in the research community, which is called red, a true tide, which is an Eli Lilly pharmaceutical. It's still not FDA approved. Uh, it's technically supposed to be FDA approved at some point in 2026 and perhaps now not even to early 2027, but our communities know about it because people like us have been using it since late 2023 when it came out.

I truthfully was maybe one of the first people to talk about using it because I started taking it in July of 2023. And very truthfully, we had no idea what the dosing parameters were back then because in the studies, and by the way, there's lots of studies on this drug and it's a very, very safe drug.

But like most of the GLPs is we can talk about GLP I think it's worth talking about GLP because most people don't understand what's going on because there's so much nonsense in the marketplace but This drug was seen in like obese diabetic men and women dumpster fires right the unhealthiest sickest most inflamed You know subset of the population and they were taking like six milligrams in the studies once a week Right and again once a week dosing for GLP's is is the complete wrong way to do it We can talk about that and drill down and I think we should because I think a lot of people will appreciate hearing this

But the reality of it is is that six milligrams? So like when I was told to me, I was like, oh well I'm just gonna be Jay Campbell and do half of that and see what happens. So I took it. And again, I was doing it once a week because that's what we were all doing before we started microdosing these things. And it literally guys, it made me voracious. I mean, I was like eating everything in the house and not gaining a pound. I mean, it's again,

a three stage agonist is increasing all the things metabolically to improve fat burning, resting energy, resting metabolism, de novo thermogenesis, increasing brown fat tissue formation. It's doing all these things to speed up your metabolism. When you're taking a high dosage and you're already a muscular lean person, you're like the Hulk. It's just you're metabolically amplified.

So it was crazy because I was telling people, oh, this drug is not gonna work. You can't give this to fat people who are metabolically dysregulated because they're gonna wanna eat all the time. Even though it will speed up their metabolism, these people still need appetite suppression because they've got all sorts of dysbiosis

and all these negative things going on. But what I didn't know at that point was that you just needed to microdose it. So in our population, again, call us healthy, biohacking, bodybuilding bros, power lifters, whatever, you just take a very, very tiny microdose either daily or every other day. Most people are not gonna follow taking a microdose

of a peptide every day, so it's like every other day, right? So you do it like Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I've gotten into a routine, I know a lot of people have gotten into a routine that if they're fasters, they take it on their eating day, right? So you do it like Monday, Wednesday, Friday. You know, I've gotten into routine. I know a lot of people have gotten into a routine that like if they're fasters, they take it on their eating day because they know it's gonna stimulate their metabolism versus not, you know, if you wanna take

like a appetite suppressing GLP, which I don't want to rabbit hole, but if you were taking like transipotide or something like that that has strong appetite suppression, you would take that on your fasting day to help you through your fast, right? Extends your fast. And truthfully, that's why GLP-1 peptides have become so powerful in the biohacking community because they enhance fasting

They also enhance all the cellular processes that improve autophagy increase hormesis, you know getting rid of senescent cells It's like a cellular detox when you do these now if you want to go down the rabbit hole of let me just first finish What we were talking about this product this five stage agonist GLP-1 peptide will change bodybuilding it will change performance enhancement because it literally will be a drug for the first time ever that people can take though they lose fat and build muscle at the same time. Now we all know depending on your genetics depending on how young you are depending on what you know drugs you taking, it's possible as a newbie to build muscle and lose fat at the same time.

But for us, older guys, more advanced in our physiques, it's pretty hard to lose fat and build muscle at the same time. It's either or. You're in a deficit, you're losing, you're in a surplus, you're gaining. This drug, I'm not joking, will literally allow that to happen. So somebody like Mark right now, dude, what do you weigh? 200 pounds, 195, what are you right now? 215.

215, muscular, single-digit body fat. You would probably, you know, because Alex and I have been talking about this, you will probably be able to put on, I'm not exaggerating when I say this, you will be able to put on 12, somewhere between 10 and 12 pounds of solid skeletal muscle in four to six weeks eating whatever the fuck you want.

Shit, that'd be wild. I mean, it's coming, right? Now, that's not what we wanna do from a standpoint because we obviously still wanna live healthy and we wanna eat clean and we wanna eat live insulin controlled and all that, but that's where this is going. And as you know, bodybuilders are not us,

but bros don't care about health, they care about getting bigger. Standing on stage and being the biggest mutant. So you can see where this is gonna go, but in our space, and I call our space the biohacking longevity space, this is gonna change and revolutionize the world. Because people will be able to relatively eat clean

and still put on two or three pounds of skeletal muscle, people will be able to relatively eat clean and still put on two or three pounds of skeletal muscle, I would say quarterly, maybe not quarterly, maybe biannually every year for the rest of their life. So you could just keep getting bigger and keep getting leaner. Now I would say you probably will not, you won't be able to go leaner if you're at six or 7% body fat walking around

or 7 or 8% body fat walking around, but you can probably keep putting on muscle. That's how insane this drug is. Now, because I know you're going to ask me, but what are the potential harmful side effects and what could go wrong? We don't know. It's literally brand new, right? Like Reta-True Tide has been studied for four years. I've been personally using it for two years.

I have, and again, I'm happy for anybody who wants to come to me My biomarkers which I routinely get labs twice a year and I do very very deep dive analysis under the hoods I spent you know, $2,000 twice a year look at my labs Everything has improved since I started using red true tide my small particle sizes my my APOB APOB APOB, APOB, APOA, APOB, my liver function, my triglycerides, all my inflammatory markers, everything has come down. I mean, I have the biomarkers now

of like a 22-year-old Olympian. I mean, everything is insane. I mean, a lot of the stuff that I've seen happen, I didn't expect to happen. And now that's what we're seeing in the studies is that these drugs are so profound and so life-altering that if you live a Clean lifestyle which again is the stuff that we talk about the people you bring on the podcast the guys you could talk to an interview Living insulin controlled eating enough protein lifting weights doing cardiovascular exercise getting seven to eight hours of rest or sleep at night avoiding

EMF mitigation if you do all those things and you take these drugs in a micro dose, you're gonna revolutionize your health. They only improve health, they don't cause side effects. Now, here's the problem. 90% of people who use them don't know how to use them. 95% of the doctors who prescribe them don't know how to tell their patients how to use them. So that's why we have this giant morass in the marketplace

and all these negative stories and symptoms and side effects that people are having. Gallbladder issues, thyroid issues, my hair fall out, hormone issues, I've got, not hepatic, but gastric motility issues. All these people are doing it wrong. And when you're doing it wrong, like everything else, you're only gonna have side effects

that result from that. And so the problem is that we have in the marketplace is more of an educational issue than the actual drugs. And it pisses me off, and I don't wanna mention names because I don't wanna take anybody down, even though I could. There's some big names that are quote unquote celebrity people who talk bad about these drugs.

And it's like, they're just glomming on to the symptoms and the side effects they see in the mainstream. And it's not, you can't blame the patient because again, a lot of these people, right? They're fat, they're metabolically inflamed and you know, call them like my term is dumpster fires. They wanna get healthy.

They wanna lose weight. They wanna do whatever they can. And they start taking these drugs. And as you know, the appetite suppression is so powerful, they stop eating. And the weight falls off and they're like, this is amazing. My dress is getting smaller.

My pant waist is getting smaller. But they're not doing anything right. They're not eating enough protein. They're not lifting weights. They're not doing cardio, right? So eventually metabolic hell is unleashed, right? Four weeks, six weeks, they got thyroid damage, they've got rebound weight gain,

they've got all this horrible stuff that they talk about that you see. And it pisses me off when I see doctors who should know better and do know better glomming onto this and saying, see, we told you, these drugs are horrible, they're gonna kill you. You've got, I don't wanna say his name,

but there's a doc out there talking about how it's snake venom. And it's like, the reptilians are behind this, you know what I mean? So it's like, there's so much utter nonsense about GLP-1s in the marketplace, it drives me crazy. If you're a scientist and you look at the data. It was discovered from a lizard though, right?

Of course. Do you know how many drugs though are produced from lizards and from birds? It doesn't mean it's bad. Mammals. Exactly. I mean, I mean, I mean, the reality is, is that everything that's natural is designed in an ecosystem created by source, God, universe, whatever your spiritual belief is, uh, to be in harmony with one another. Right? So like we all share the same atoms, the same light, the same DNA.

We're all connected, everything is connected. But at the end of the day, like, when I see all these people talking so bad about these GLP-1s, if you look at the data, and you're a researcher, and a lot of people obviously say, Jay, just show me the science, I trust the science, and the science to me is also, that's another rabbit hole, but if you look at the data, the data's incredible

at what these drugs do. And again- How do you take them right? How do you take them, how does someone take them the correct way? Well, let's talk about, but let me just finish on the data is incredible at what these drugs do. And again- How do you take them right? How do you take them the correct way? How does someone take them the correct way? Well, let's talk about, but let me just finish on the data. The data shows rewiring of negative brain pathways, alcoholism and elimination,

video game and porn addiction, elimination. Like it teaches people, again, through the rewiring of brain pathways to stop making poor choices to stop obsessing and Compulsing over stuff that is meaningless and inconsequential and I see this with so many people that I know who have been using these Right. So again, I've seen these when they're done, right and I'm gonna get to that in a second life-changing How are they done? Right? I just saw dr. Gabriel. Why and shout out to her. She'd been on the podcast Yeah, okay. So I just saw a big thing. She's a good friend I just saw a big thing of her on Facebook talking about this and again

She's one of the smart ones and she talks about and does the right stuff She's like telling people that it's what you will lose muscle if you don't do this, right, right? So here's how we do this right mark. We We do this right by first off, starting with a micro dose. So if you go to your, you know, garden variety physician and they prescribe a GLP-1, if they tell you to start with a high dose, you're doing it wrong already. A micro dose is where you start because again, just like Dan Duchesne, start low, go slow, assess your unique individual genetic tolerance, right? That's how we understand. Once we start with a microdose, now we also have to understand

that you cannot take these drugs without also understanding whether or not you're hormonally optimized or balanced. So if you're suffering from a hormone deficiency, which is like 80% of the public at this point, and you start down the path of a GLP-1, you're gonna lose muscle. And you're gonna lose muscle

because that's how effective these drugs are at driving metabolic markers and improving metabolic machinery. So number one, microdose. Number two, find out if you have a hormonal deficiency and get optimized. And that doesn't mean you've got to jump on therapeutic testosterone or anything at all.

We can talk about that. But obviously, that's what we recommend. And that's what most men and women in their 40s and 50s should consider, but that's number two. Number three, live insulin controlled. Okay. This is probably number one, but living insulin controlled means I now have to regulate my carbohydrate consumption. I'm increasing if I'm using runitrutide, which is a three stage or trisapatite, which are the two most, you know, the most prescribed and most used and well known. I know that my metabolism is increasing and I also know that my appetite is being suppressed. So I don't want to eat food that could cause spikes in insulin.

Right. So I'm living insulin control. What does that mean? Jay, there are people are going to be like, Jay, you're talking science. I don't even know what that means. It means you regulate your carbohydrate consumption. You already know this.'ve had many many experts on the show talk about this, right? You the Charles Paul Aquin model you get your carbs when you deserve them You eat them post training peri training pre training when you know, your body is gonna be requiring muscle glycogen to fuel its performance That's number three number four number five or equal. I'm sorry, five and six are equal.

Number four, you've got to eat enough protein. And this is where most people, especially women, fail. Because as you know, most women are protein malnourished. They're afraid that if they eat too much protein, they're going to get big, bulky muscles, or they're going to get fat, or all this nonsense. But the best way to say it, I'll shout out to Chris Cavallini, the owner of Nutrition Solutions.

He says, eat the amount of grams that your goal body weight is. So a metabolically deranged person who's obese, who's 350 pounds as a man or 275 pounds as a woman, you're not gonna eat 275 grams of protein or 350 grams of protein, that's too much. You're gonna eat what your goal body weight is. The real answer, scientific, your your muscle mass, right? But nobody very few people can calculate that

Foreign or that's number four five and six are you gotta lift weights? You gotta do resistance training You don't have to lift weights. You could do hot Pilates or bone-bearing, you know resistance training or bone-bearing structural stuff Isometrics, but most people it's resistance training in the weights, in the gym, or even at your house, and then equally with that, you gotta do cardiovascular exercise. Sleep, EMF mitigation, those are secondary and tertiary factors later, but if you do those six things, when you're doing a GLP-1, you're not gonna have

side effects, and you're gonna see dramatic body composition change for the better. And you're going to see dramatic body composition change for the better. So I'm curious about this. You mentioned the taking them one time a week is a mistake. Yes. Right. So as far as frequency, why is that a mistake? Because they're designed to half-lives of the drug are not designed. They're, they're, they're, they have long half-lives, but like anything else that you take, just like if we think about like testosterone when someone injects testosterone

taking it one time a week is an anathema or ignoring the half-life of the testosterone ester right because depending on what you're taking whether it's anathate siponate a combination of the two propionate a short-acting All of them break down in the bloodstream and in the system at different levels and speeds Right, but what we have to understand is that testosterone is testosterone and once it's broken down and cleaved through the aromatase enzyme into estradiol Everybody has the same effect, right? So whether it happens in propionates version of 12 to 14 hours versus siponates of 26 to 32 hours testosterone is testosterone in the testosterone in the bloodstream

and broken down, just like a GLP. A GLP, regardless of its half-life, is synthesized to last a certain amount of time, but there's a peak and a trial of every drug, right? So if we understand that we want to avoid trials and we want to maintain peak, we want a microdose. And a microdose is literally like daily if you're a super anal retentive,

which few people can do that. There's a lot of men that probably listen to this show that probably take a microdose of testosterone every single morning like they brush their teeth, right? And they like doing that. They inject with a micro, you know, as a hypodermic insulin needle, maybe down here, maybe in their arms or whatever,

you know, the testosterone solutions nowadays, thank God. A lot of them are in MCT oil or sesame or, you know, oils that are very thin, grape seed too, and they can go through very small gauge needles. And so there's no scar tissue and you can just inject yourself and simple. But at the end of the day, if you micro dose a GLP one peptide, you're going to keep the half life like this versus one time a week, which is what most people do and a big dose remember, you're like this, boom. So when you do that over time, you get a pronounced effect of let's say the first two days of no appetite.

So what ends up happening when they have that giant bolus? They don't eat. Their appetite is so heavily suppressed that these people forget to eat. Their appetite is so heavily suppressed that these people forget to eat. Now they might binge off of that, right? Yes, exactly. So now when they crash three days later

and they don't have that nadir like this, they're gonna be more inclined to eat junk food or just to go back to their bad lifestyle habits. Which is again, the majority of people using GLPs are not us guys. They're people that are overweight. They're again, metabolically deranged. So they're looking to lose weight

and do it the quickest, fastest, easy button way. And so they're not engaging in the lifestyle habits that I just talked about about doing it right. So that's what you've got to really look at. But in my opinion, and again, I've worked with thousands of people now and probably hundreds of thousands, if not maybe millions, with the people that have read my work and research,

the feedback that I get from people who you injected at least three times a week is at least 100X from a positive standpoint than the people that are doing it once a week. And so again, if you're working with a doctor who's recommending you do it once a week, A, you break up the dosage if the doctor is a good doctor that you trust, or B, you fire that doctor

and get a doctor who does know how to do this. And listen, majority of doctors out there that are doing this are microdosing it now. They're doing it right. They are microdosing this now. I mean, even Lilly came out with ZepBound, which is a microdose version of it. So it's not like they're not aware of how this is happening.

I mean, and again, I don't wanna tear down the medical establishment, but as I say, and Dan Duchesne used to say and taught me, if you start low and go slow Pharma is start high go higher Because that's how they make money. That's how they saturate receptors That's how they get people to get more and more and more and again The average GLP one starts too high and literally six weeks later is taking a dosage that is out of this world insane

That now they've completely saturated the receptors. It doesn't even work Versus because you asked this question. It's a good question. If you microdose, you can take it forever because let me explain how that works. If you take a microdose and let's just define what is a microdose. Let's just use Terzapetide. The average starting dose again, medical is 2.5 milligrams a week. I would tell a person to start with 0.25 to 0.5 every other day.

So that's one fifth to one seventh of a weekly standard dosage. If you do it that way, A, you're gonna get the same effects, if not better. Again, you're gonna stay like this. You're gonna have constant appetite suppression and metabolic enhancement. Over time, the receptors do not become desensitized

because you stayed at such a low dose. And so if you have food noise, which a lot of people do, you can just drop off completely and take one shot a month of say, points three to point five, and you'll eliminate the food noise, but also allow the receptors to reacclimate and resensitize so that your body is never getting addicted to it again You don't there's no such thing at least in the science and literature showing that people develop an addiction to it

They do develop a receptor Desensitization to the super high dosages and that's why all these people that take them and have all these horrible side-effect stories Quit and have the rebound the metabolic rewound and the metabolic haywire issues because again they've oversaturated the receptors. They never did any of the seven things or the six things that we just we decided that has to be done to do it right. And their doctor never led them down the right path. Too high more money.

A lot of people quit too because they're now they're being charged insane amounts at the dosages they have a map. And that's something we haven't talked about. Do you realize a pharmaceutical compounded version of the GLP versus a research version, whether you get it from me, peptide scientists, whomever, it's 1.10 to 1.15 the cost. So imagine being that person going to your doctor,

wanting desperately to lose weight, wanting to, quote unquote, do it the right way. And after a month, you run out of money to even do it. Because that's what happens. A lot of these people are like, dude, this is $5,000 a month. I can't afford this. This is $3,500 a month. Even with my insurance, I can't afford this. So it's it's the market's completely out of hand. And thankfully, a lot lot of people myself included. Dr. Gabrielle land Dr. Dr. Tyna there's a lot of people out there that are talking about doing this right and They've told them that like hey, man You got to do this in the way that is beneficial to you

And if you can't afford a pharmaceutical version, there's research versions out there. Just make sure you know what you're doing before you go down that path Can you tell us about testogen you were mentioning that I hope we were on the walk this morning and it sounded like it was interesting. So testogen is another injectable bioregulator that we're looking to actually have formulated an oral version. Right now it's just injectable, just like cartilagin, but we've been told it can be made into oral version. Now let's talk about oral versus injectable. I think you guys know the people that listen to this show know that injection is always the highest impact delivery system because it crosses the blood-brain barrier the fastest.

It also gets into portal circulation the fastest. It's always going to be the tried and true number one delivery system. However, because bioregulators are tissue specific in oral and they have no side effects when they break down in the system, you can get pretty good what are called pharmo kinetics or pharmo dynamics of these peptides slash bioregulators. And again, they're the same thing technically from an oral version, because again, they don't break down and cause all these downstream side effects. So you're looking at like a testigen, whether you inject it or whether you use it as an oral is perhaps one of the strongest,

call it testosterone boosting, endocrine boosting products in the marketplace that won't disturb the body's hypogonadal function, right? So again, the holy grail in testosterone optimization today is to tell a man that you could take a substance that'll gain that allow them to gain muscle, improve their endocrine function, but not disturb their body's natural production of testosterone. That's the game changer. I think, and again, I don't have any science to prove this.

I just have people using it. I have younger people, I have older people. The people that I have counseled and worked with who have been using Testogen have raved about this product. They have said to me, dude, this is the closest thing to using therapeutic testosterone or a steroid cycle that I've ever seen. And again, in the research in Russia, in Bulgaria,

using this drug does not disturb hypogonadal function. So it's not gonna disturb your body's ability to be fertile. Which again, is the game changer, the holy grail in testosterone optimization or hormonal optimization, because that's always what guys want. They want something they can take to give them a little bit of gains, they want their gains,

but at the same time not disturb their body's fertility or not disturb their body's natural endocrine function. So I personally think that that drug slash bioregulator, as we get further along here in the next two to three to four, six months, and even maybe next year and two years, you're gonna see this is the product for TRT. And again, not for you and me, not for guys that have already chosen the testosterone path.

And look, anyone listening to this, it's not gonna replace TRT. I mean, let's be real, right? Testosterone is testosterone. But at the end of the day, if you can get a product that say, can give you 35 to 50% of what TRT gives you and not disturb your body's natural testosterone function

or endocrine function. I think a lot of guys will take that path. As I told you, I personally think this will be the path of younger men because now they don't have to risk disturbing their body's natural function. They don't have to risk going on testosterone for life. And again, to me, that's a joke because once you start on testosterone, you're not going to come off of it. But for people that don't want to go down that path, I totally respect that.

You want to stay natural your whole life. That's cool too. This will be the product. Now, let me add something to this. I would also say the other product that you would want to take in addition to testogen is another oral bioregulator already in the marketplace that many people use now. It's called testolutin. So if you take testolutin and you take testogen take testogen and right now again testogen is only injectable

But if you get both of them together, I would say that'll be the closest Testosterone boosting supplement stack that you could ever take it will shit all over Tarn Cattle Lee It will shit all over faggot destroy all these different things that all these people in the market are selling and again I know some of those products do have You know test I mean not test but studies that show transit elevations and increases and stuff like that that all these people in the market are selling. And again, I know some of those products do have, I mean not tests, but studies that show transient elevations and increases and stuff like that. And a lot of people tell me that they use,

Tribulus or Fagadoccia or whatever, and they feel like they get a libido increase. I mean, look, man, I'm the- Whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. Did you mean Fadocia or Fagadoccia? Whatever, I call it Fagadoccia. Yeah.

Because I think it is Fagadoccia, right? Because to me it's f-a-g. It's f-a-g, right? Sorry, I'm glad you said that. He caught me. He caught me. No, but so check this out. So check this out. I do know people that say they feel like they get a libido increase from these products, right?

Yeah. And as the guy who's written the two number one selling books of all time on therapeutic testosterone, I've gone down every rabbit hole with those products and investigated all the signs behind them. And I will always tell everyone, and I don't care who it is, you cannot prove to me that you get anything more than a transient increase, because that's what they show.

So again, if your goal is to be optimized, you want to maintain it, right? So none of those things will ever keep a man optimized. It might give him a boost, but it's short term and it's transient, it's short lived. But if you look at these products, this is probably gonna be that next level up where you will stay like you're again,

again, let's just, to be conservative, let's say you get 30 to 40% of what TRT will give you. I think most men under the age of 30. Yeah, of course, I think most men under the age of 30 will Yeah, of course. I think most men under the age of 30 will take that all day long. And as I was telling you today on our walk, I personally, you personally, because I'm gonna send it to you,

when we have it, we'll take this as a man on TRT to see what it will do. Because again, the studies, the scientific research from Russia shows that it will optimize a man's endocrine system as he ages. So if you and I or any man who's been on TRT

for 20 plus years gets on this, then theoretically it should improve your endocrine function. Jay, I have a question, man, because like you, you mean you said you've been using peptides since 2004, right? That's when you started, right? And it's really cool, both of you guys, kind of seeing the things that you've done as you age.

And some of these things make me wonder, I'm only 32, right? What does optimization look like for you? Because you've been trying things and doing different things, and what is optimized for you? What really ends up moving the needle? Because when you end up using so many things,

what are you looking for? Dude, he's 32 with a 2,000 year old soul I'm not joking anyway What's a 2,000 year old soul mean? I think we're gonna go there. I think we're gonna go there. That's a awesome question, bro For me it goes back to what I said about hormones If I wake up in the morning and I feel good and I feel energetic and I feel like I'm ready

to take on the world, that's optimized. I personally think that most people today are too caught up into tracking their data and their analytics and their health markers and their health metrics and all that stuff. And I think that that's literally like, it's not a bad thing per se, but people took too much emphasis on that, right?

And again, I'm one of the people. I mean, you've been to my house. I mean, I have every biohacking gadget under the sun, right? Like I have all these things, but do I look at those as like prime movers in my life? We were trying to go to sushi and he was like setting up these things. He's like, I gotta get the mold out of my house.

He's like, and he's like putting them all over the house and his like daughters are making fun of him. There's nothing better than being a salesman and actually buying from other people, right? Cause we're like the easiest lay downs, right? Like, yeah, yeah, solicitor. Yeah, exactly. I'll buy it.

Try it out. Why not? But the truth is it's a great question because I really think that we should really examine our lives from a standpoint of like, do we wake up in the morning and feel good? You know, do we have an energy about us that makes us want to take on our day?

Are we excited to serve other people? I first started hearing about TROscriptions from Thomas DeLauer. Yep. And you know, Thomas is somebody, it's an animal with working out. You got a chance to work out with him. I worked out with him.

And he's kind of always on the front lines of like, you know, finding out about these new companies that have cool things. and I worked out with him. And he's kind of always on the front lines of like, finding out about these new companies that have cool things. But I didn't really realize that Troscriptions was the first company to put out Methylene Blue. Now, look at Methylene Blue, it's so popular, it's everywhere. It's one of those things,

if you guys listen to this podcast, you know I'm very iffy with the supplements that I take. Because there's a lot of shady stuff out there. You gotta be careful. The great thing about transcriptions is that when people wanna get methylene blue, usually they'll go on Amazon, they're going on these other sites.

It's not third party testing, it's not dosed. A lot of people end up with toxicity from the blue that they get because there's no testing of it. Transcriptions, they have third party testing for their products. It's dosed so you know easily what exact dose of methylene blue you're getting in each troche. So you're not making some type of mistake.

There's not gonna be anything in it. It's safe. You can have it dissolve and you can turn your whole world blue if you want, or you can just swallow it. They have two different types of methylene blue. They have one that is, I believe, dosed at 16 milligrams, and they have another one that's dosed at 50 milligrams.

So make sure you check the milligrams. I don't recommend anybody start at 50 milligrams but the 16 I feel is very safe. You can also score the trokies and you can break them up into smaller bits. Yeah, that's what I do. And in addition to that, on top of the Methylene Blue they have a lot of other great products as well.

They got stuff for sleep, they got stuff for calming down, all kinds of things. I gotta say, I use it about of other great products as well. They got stuff for sleep, they got stuff for calming down, all kinds of things. I gotta say, I use it about two or three times a week. I use it before Jiu Jitsu, and the cool thing that I've noticed, and I've paid attention to this over the past few months, is that after sessions, I don't feel as tired. So it's almost like I've become more efficient

with just the way I use my body in these hard sessions of grappling. And it's like, cool, that means that, I mean, I could go for longer if I wanted to, and my recovery's better affected. It's pretty great. I know Dr. Scott Schur, we had him on the podcast, and he talked quite a bit about how he recommends

methylene blue to a lot of the athletes that he works with. And they're seeing some profound impacts. And one of the things I've heard about it is that it can enhance red light. So those of you doing red light therapy are those of you that have some opportunities to get out into some good sunlight. It might be a good idea to try some methylene blue

before you go out on your walk or run outside or whatever activity is that you're gonna do outside. And this stuff is great, but please, like first off, they have that stuff for staying calm. They have stuff for sleep, but remember this stuff isn't a substitution for sleep. This isn't a substitution for taking care of your nutrition. This is supposed to be an add on to all the things that we already should be doing. And it's going to make things so much better if you're doing everything

else too. And I think this is just a little different too than just adding some magnesium to your diet. I think this is a little different than, you know, treat these things appropriately. Make sure you do some of your own research, but. Oh, if you're taking medications, it takes SRIs, you better talk to your doctor first. Don't be popping these things.

And if you're taking any medications at all, it'd be good to double, triple, quadruple check and make sure that you're safe. Troscriptions has a lot of great things that you need, so go and check out their website when you have the opportunity. Strength is never weakness, weakness is never strength. Catch you guys later.

Shake their hand, look in their eyes, smile back at them and say, hey, it's so nice to meet you, it's so cool to be with you today, thank you for sharing your energy with me. To me, that is what, that's how you know if you're optimized or not. And I think all of us have days where we don't have that. We wake up in the morning and we're like,

oh my God, I mean, you know about me last night. I mean, I've been traveling so much in the last two months. I've been to pretty much everywhere on the planet. I've been to New Zealand, I've been to Australia, I've been halfway around the world and I was a little bit worn out. Since I got that new tech in my house, I've felt a lot better.

And again, because obviously it's like a hyperbaric chamber, I've been doing a lot more hyperbaric stuff. Now, is that because, is that making me optimize? No, but it's allowing me to get better and deeper sleep. So it's a tool that pushes me maybe a little bit over the edge from a standpoint of like, if I didn't have it, would it affect me that much more? I think again, depending on how hyper driven

and how hyper motivated you are to do things, to do, to be, to go, I think having these tools to push you over the edge when you otherwise might be a little bit tired and not have them, I think it's better. But in truth, like I don't measure any of those biohacking tools as whether or not I'm optimized. I literally go by how I feel internally.

And what about sleep? What are some things that you've done that have really helped your sleep, whether it be just a habit or whether it be a technology piece? Dude, great question. Sleep has been a problem for me very recently because as I told you about my story with eight sleep,

for all you lovers of eight sleep, and I was one, I slept on with eight sleep, you know, uh, for all you lovers of eight sleep and I was one, I slept on an eight sleep mattress since 2019, man, it's bad news. It's, uh, it's radiating your body, the EMF, the dirty dissonant EMF frequencies that are coming out of the modem and also the bed. The other thing is, and we should talk about this for one second. Um, and this is interesting. And again, shout out to Brian Hoyer, the big EMF guy comes into your into your house, does all the celebrities and D1 athletes, not D1 athletes,

but just Major League in baseball and football and basketball. He goes into their houses and he, you know, EMF proves their house. And he just came into my house recently. He's an amazing guy, I love that guy. And he showed me all the problems and hotspots in my house. And when he ran his gun over the eight sleep mattress, it was like devastating to me and my wife, because we were sleeping at 55 degrees every night and say oh this is amazing

This makes my heart heavy. Yeah, it's dude. It's brutal. So so anyway bottom line is to improve sleep You have to have a and again, this is probably cache, but you have to have a blocked out room You cannot have phones Wi-Fi signals, you know, again, EMF emitting technologies that are anywhere close to your sleeping room. That is horrible sleep hygiene. And I would say that 80% of the people listening right now

are violating this every single day. They go to sleep with that plug-in next to them. You know, one of the things Brian was talking about was like if you don't have EMF mitigating Adapters and chargers you're getting annihilated like you can't even believe it like we had our modem in a cool like custom You've sold my bedroom nightstand and that's powered and he was like bro. You gotta unplug this thing You have any idea and again, he's got a video. He's running a ZMF gun. He's got a Chargers amplifier. Yes, it's insane. So I think it's simple stuff. We're going back to ancestral stuff.

I do wanna bring something up for one second is that your phone is probably usually would enhance reach all the time. And I think that we hear, oh, if it's in our front pocket, it has negative sides or whatever. But I would just say do your best to try to have your phone as far away from you. Like you don't always need it with an arm reach,

sitting down and you're like watching TV or doing something different. See if you can have it like somewhere else or maybe it's shut off or I don't know if airplane mode makes things better, but just try to have the thing the hell away from you for a while here and there. It's great advice. I mean, we're all too attached to our phones.

I mean, we all live in a very hyper mobile, hyper competitive world. And it's like, if you don't respond fast, somebody else will. I mean, we're all too attached to our phones. I mean, we all live in a very hyper mobile, hyper competitive world. And it's like, if you don't respond fast, somebody else will. I love it too. I love being on the internet and checking shit out all the time. I mean, we all do.

And you know, if we got out of the hyperdimensional thing, I'm gonna tell you why that's bad. But like the reality is, is that we're all addicted to these screens, you know, from our kids to us, to our work lives. But to go back to sleep, as you said, that should not be anywhere close to your sleep. You should not have a router in your bedroom.

Most people have routers close to their bedroom. You know, Ben Greenfield talks about having everything hardwired. Most people in a coastal urban population area, like here, like Tampa, like any major city, that doesn't matter anymore. You cannot go wired in your house and think that you're going to avoid Wi-Fi. It's everywhere.

As you said, you have a tower right out here. We have a tower close to us. But the way those things work is they work in packet signaling. So the closer you are, the less, the more shielded you are to actually one of those Wi-Fi towers. But that's the thing is like, if you live in a major city, you're being bombarded. So what can you do?

Again, blacked out, nothing on, nothing charging. I know I'm gonna blow your guys' heads up when I tell you this, because this is what killed me about 8 Sleep 2. Any mattress that has metal in it, your battery, you're being absolutely obliterated. Those things are literally giant transistors of wifi and 5G signals now.

So if your mattress has box springs or wires or coils in it, you are being obliterated by EMF. It's insane. So again, people have 20, 15, $10,000 mattresses, the best of all time, you know, for all this for comfort and, you know, pillow top and blah. And dude, if it has springs in it, you're being annihilated. Now, let me just say, six years ago, when 8 Sleep came out, it wasn't a big deal. That was before 5G. So that's what people have to understand is that we're not in the same time

when people were originally making mattresses and box springs with wires and metal in them. We are now in a time where you can't have that in your bed because you're being obliterated. I'm telling you man, like all you have to do is go to shieldandhealing.com. Everything on that website is free. Download his EMF mitigation protection

for your family, for your home, for your office. Read that PDF. I mean, I've made so many changes. What I always like to tell people is like, don't panic. You know, don't listen to the show. No, no, no, you can't panic. And don't go in panic and really worry. Just do whatever you can.

Like do the best that you can in accordance to your budget whenever you can get around. Dude, 100%. I literally was gonna say that. Like, this is- There's a lot to around it. Dude, 100%. I literally was gonna say that. There's a lot to think about. This is 100%. This is all proactive, not reactive. If you can afford this, and again, it's not super expensive.

I'll be very honest and tell you guys everything I just paid. My mattress, I bought the Samina Sleep mattress, which is by the way, the most expensive probably mattress in this, it's called a system because it's a frame and a mattress and a grounding pad and all these things But to me and again, they talked about this on the website again is Samina sleep. We spent 30% of our life in our bed so like what is really technically a Expensive if you spend 30% of your life in your bed. It's not.

So like me and my wife, we're just like, you know what, who cares, we're gonna do it. Now obviously not everyone can afford that cost of that bed, but there are other cheaper beds in the marketplace that are similar. So again, dude, it's not panic, it's not reaction. It's how can I be progressively proactive? Just laughing right now,

because my kids think that I'm gonna end up sleeping outside on the ground and like a TV You would be you would be better. I mean So so the other question but the other question is like what else can you do? I mean you guys I'm not joking when I tell you this I'm literally painting my my master bedroom I'm gonna paint the EMF production paint on the walls I mean Monica wanted to repaint the better master anyway, because we haven't painted so we bought the house two years ago I mean Monica wanted to repaint our master anyway because we haven't painted it

so we bought the house two years ago. So I'm gonna put the EMF protection paint on Gabby, Alex, my daughters, and our master bedrooms where we sleep. And then we'll just, hey, you get to repaint your bedrooms, right? So we'll have somebody come in. But I'm telling you, he also showed me

that most wiring in most of our houses is not right. If you have a smart refrigerator, a smart TV, Most wiring in most of our houses is not right. If you have a smart refrigerator, a smart TV, a smart microwave, a smart anything, most of us have smart washers and dryers. He's like, dude, they are radiating too because most of the people that set them up don't know how to wire them correctly. So again, do you have to change all this?

Of course not. But can you become progressively proactive and take little baby steps know, baby steps, little by little to do things? The number one thing that all of us can do immediately is to black out our bedrooms and stop charging anything in our bedrooms. And there is a reason why electricians wear,

you know, what they wear is because they, they have to be protected. Union has stepped in and said, these guys need to be protected when they're putting in these wires and these different things. So it's obvious it does something to be protected. Union has stepped in and said, these guys need to be protected when they're putting in these wires and these different things. So it's obvious it does something to our biology. How negative it is, it's hard to tell.

I mean, again, I've been reading a lot of this and really gone down this rabbit hole in the last three months, but five years ago, it was not a problem. Is there any way to rewind your eight sleep to its five years ago, six years ago settings? Like, is there any way to at least do that? No, because you're, we're, I mean,

so here's the answer. If you live in the mountains and you have no civilization around you and you don't have dissonant frequency waves, you could probably get along by, I mean, you would still be affected by the modem radiating your body. But if you live in a major city,

do you have one in your house right now? Yeah, I haven't seen one in that thing for years. No, it's amazing. Yeah, I've been sleeping on for five years. No, no, here, major cities, you're just being annihilated. Yeah, I mean, if you had him come into your house and you saw what it's doing to your body every day, dude, like we did, you'd be like, damn,

because it's that bad. I mean, I'm not trying to scare you. I mean, believe me, we love that. And I mean, I thought about it whenever I traveled the world, I'd be thinking like, damn, I gotta get back in my mattress, you know, so I can sleep on it. Let me ask you this.

I mean, I think, you know, there have been people that have come onto this show and talked about this, but when it comes to this EMF stuff, what are some of the drawbacks that you might notice over time? Because like, I mean, again, maybe it's just because I'm young, but I don't feel these things yet.

What would they potentially cause? Why do I need? Oh, you just wait, bro. Yeah, dude. But yeah, like, you know, yeah. No, it's a good question. You know, my business partner's your age. He's a year younger than you, 31, and he doesn't feel any of these things either

He's just taking proactive steps, you know, he's wearing these I mean you're young and vital and you're in your prime So you're not gonna feel the things that somebody a little bit older than you and again, I'm 54, you know I have no problem saying that My sleep has been disturbed a lot in the last six months I'm not saying that my sleep has been disturbed a lot in the last six months. Was it because of my travel? Was it because of my diet?

Was I eating food past eight o'clock? Sometimes I will do that if I have a busy day and I'm starving to death and I fasted 22 hours or whatever and I'm going to eat. Yeah, of course, there's a lot of factors. But as I've started to clean up my sleep hygiene, my health and my overall sense of well-being and energy has improved.

So is it a combination of things along with the EMF? I can tell you this for a fact. I've not been sleeping in the EMF, I mean the EMF, the eight sleep mattress for 10 days now and I feel way better. And I always, again, noticeable as your question, I never felt that I wasn't feeling okay when I was on my eight sleep But the guys that you know own this amina sleep system the German guys shout out the claws, you know He will tell you you have to detox For literally seven to ten days from being on an eight sleep because you don't really realize it until you're sleeping in a naturally grounded shielded

Environment or bed and again to what you were saying, what's best is ancestral? All this technology, if we go down that rabbit hole and start talking about hyperdimensionality, none of this is beneficial to us. It is all toys, they're implements that are being offered to us. They don't improve our life.

I mean, AI, can you use AI for beneficial things? Of course, but is AI by its very nature beneficial to human sovereignty? Absolutely not Anybody who says that it is as clueless. They don't understand what's going on like technology If we allow technology to take over us and to allow us to think which many young people are doing I told you this when you were here at our house, like when we came back from that summit, a lot of the influencers and people like us, and we were all talking amongst ourselves,

were literally joking around about how people were responding to their messages with AI. That's where we're at, bro. That's not good. What do you think is happening to the human brain when you don't think? Oh, absolutely. I mean, all of this is going down

a very precipitous slope that I hate even discussing. But when you start, I mean, I should show you this. Some guy, I was gonna say this and I completely forgot. Some guy sent me a message today where he typed the message in the subject line and hit send. It was literally like 20 emails in the subject line. And it was this message.

And I had to like double click on it inside of my computer to see what he said. But so that's where we're at, right? Like people are not thinking, they're using AI to conjugate a thought, an expression of a word, a verb, a phrase or whatever. And we're just, like I said, we're on a precipitous path or a precipitous slope

and I don't really think that it ends well unless we reclaim our sovereignty and we start taking over progressively what we can and can't control. And I just see, you know, not you, because obviously you're different, but like people younger are allowing it to completely take over their lives.

I mean, I read the threads on X and Instagram, and I mean, dude, AI has got to these people. Like you see all the young entrepreneur, hustler guys saying, AI is the thing, bro. If you don't take advantage of AI, you're done. You can't scale. I mean, I see it all. And I'm just like, dude, like, what do you really think is important in this world that we're living done, you can't scale. I mean I see it all and I'm just like, dude, like what do you really think is important

in this world that we're living in, you know? So don't get me wrong, AI is a tool. And like anything else, it can be harnessed and used efficiently and productively. But when you allow it to take over your life, which I see a lot of people doing, that's when we're in a bad path. That's when we know we're headed down the wrong path.

I wanna switch gears here for a second cause maybe people aren't aware, but people that have pets, people that have dogs and cats and so forth, peptides are being used for dogs and cats. And you know, sometimes a dog has like a bad hip or an injury or they run into all kinds of problems and people are utilizing peptides for this sometimes, right?

100%. Peptides are, I mean, obviously everybody has fur babies, probably listening to the show. You know, we have two dogs in my house. I'm sure I'm gonna meet your dogs pretty soon. Pets can live just as long, I mean, not can live as long as a human, but obviously from a figuratively standpoint, standpoint they can but they also have to be

You know given specific things carp mean I always say this about pets carbon 60 is huge for animals Carbon 60 will extend the life of any animal. That's just a fat, right? Yeah, I mean I mean MCT. Yeah, it's literally Yeah, it's a version of like palmitic acid with you know car. It's basically a molecular sponge It's a very powerful antioxidant, but my little rat dog, which you met, he's alive right now because of carbon-60. We started giving him carbon-60 in 2019. He was gonna, he was done.

What is it doing for him? It's just a very powerful antioxidant. So it's like improving cellular pathways and improving their regenerative pathways. So it helps them dramatically. But yeah, I mean, like I have so many friends that give their dogs BPC and TB 500. Did I know people that give their dogs,

you know, DECA and testosterone. No, why? Because it enhances all sorts of metabolic function. I mean, look, eventually we will know that testosterone enhances life. Like there's plenty of studies out there that shows, I mean, you know, again, you've got so many people saying they're female.

Well, I mean, if you really wanna go down that rabbit hole, it enhances female life better than it enhances male life because again, women naturally aromatize testosterone into healthy levels of estrogen, which is what makes them women, right? I mean, again, the differentiation between a man and women is their amount of testosterone in their body. A lot of people don't understand that. There's the differentiation between a man and women is their amount of testosterone in their body. A lot of people don't understand that.

There's no differentiation between men and women other than the amount of testosterone that that fetus was exposed in utero. So if you wanna make a woman a man, you give them more testosterone in utero, right? I mean, we don't wanna get into the craziness of all the trans stuff and all that stuff's going on, but I mean, I've been saying this literally for 10 years,

and it's now scientifically verifiable. The reason we have so much identity confusion, and we have so many people who are confused from a standpoint of their biology is because they don't have testosterone and utero. And this is all due to biochemical contamination. This is due to birth control in the water supply. You know, you can bring Dr. Anthony Jay,

has he been on the show? No. You can bring him on. I mean, he's the world's leading expert in all this stuff. And he will tell you that gender dysphoria, confusion, all this stuff is happening because these people are chemically castrated. They do not have enough testosterone or estrogen or combination in utero in the womb. And so when they come out, they have, they're

confused. They don't know whether they're man or woman they I mean that's what's happening and this is again all attributable to our environment being contaminated and are you gonna see this in studies no is the is the EPA talking about this of course not you know there's a bigger picture but beyond all this but I mean you know is it is it purposeful or was it just the inevitable consequences of modernization I think it's a combination of both but this is where we are now in our society. And so like, if you really want to understand what's really happening, like why men are becoming less men and women are becoming less women, you have to look at hormones and hormones

as the origin. Like again, in utero, people have less. I mean, dude, there's guys out there now with studies showing that the bone mineral density of people now that are under the age of 20 is less than 20 years ago. And again, this is again from the byproduct of the chemical and toxin onslaught of our modern day society. Plastics, BPA, endocrine disrupting chemicals,

I mean, it's everywhere, right? Air, food and water, we can't avoid it. I mean, look at us, all of us, we all have plastic, we all have tin, you know, there's something around us, EMF, you know, petroleum distillate, there's something around us that is not good for us from an ancestral natural standpoint. Yeah, and it's just going on all the time.

I think that's the main thing, right? You know, so like the eight sleep mattress type thing, it's like, well, you're spending quite a bit of time in that bedroom, laying on that bed, and then we're just getting exposure to the phone and to the TV and it just goes on and on and on. If it was one dose of something small here and there, if it was only the phone, if it was only a TV,

if it was only something, like I mentioned earlier, we're getting like microwaved all the time. It used to be that you just didn't stand in front of your microwave, but now you're like permanently in a microwave basically. It's crazy to think about that. But yeah, I mean like Dom, when you know, shout out to Dom, you know,

the bio-dentical dentist from Germany, you know, he was talking when, cause after you left, we went and saw him before he went back to Miami and flew back to Germany that following weekend and he was staying at a house in Tampa Airbnb they had and they didn't have a microwave in there and I was like Don't you just microwave and he's like bro in Germany. We don't even have microwaves They don't use them because they're so bad for you. Right? That's crazy. But in the United States, we all have microwaves We all use microwaves to reheat food and you know reheat heat up like nutrition meals or package meals

What do they what's their standard then? They don't have microwaves. They just use they use a pan You know a heating pad or a stove or whatever. Yeah. Yeah That's I'm saying like you go to foreign countries and you see like standards that they have not adopted I mean again One of the things I say specifically all the time is like when you're in New Zealand The food tastes way better because they don't have any chemicals. There's no atrazine. There's no glyphosate.

All the animals are farmed locally, you know, in New Zealand farms. They're killed sustain sustainably. I love when people say they killed the animals sustainably. But I mean, it is right. Like it doesn't know it grows. It lives there. It's never heard it onto a truck and stampede it out and then slaughtered at a slaughterhouse They they grow and they've naturally and then somebody comes up and hit him behind the head knocks him out

Then they cut him up and they we eat him. I mean and that's if there's a if there's an evolutionary ecosystem, that's how it works But not in America, right where we're slaughtering the animals and slaughterhouses and their blood is becoming adrenalized and we eat that then And you know that I mean, you're the guy with carnivore protein and all that stuff and adrenalized and we eat that then and you know that I mean you're the guy with carnivore protein and all that stuff and bubs and all that stuff so I mean like we understand like where this is going but it's like you have to leave this country and see how it's done in other places to really observe it and taste it and feel it and to know that like oh there's a big difference. What are some things that you do for the brain?

I know that you're big on that and you're with your entrepreneurship and energy that you wanna bring to each and every day. What are some things you do to help keep like a balanced mind or a mind that's gonna be able to retain a lot of information and stuff like that? So that's a great question. So when people ask me, what's the world's strongest neutral big,

I always say one thing, therapeutic testosterone. If you look at what testosterone does to cognitive thought, dopamine signaling, short-term and long-term memory, there's nothing more profound. There's nothing more powerful than that. Again, balance though. And you were saying that your brain's faster

than somebody that maybe isn't taking testosterone. That's a fact. I mean, like again, are there outliers? Of course. Are younger people gonna have stronger brain patterning than outliers? Of course. Are younger people going to have stronger brain patterning than older people? Of course. But if you take an average person in society and you put them on therapeutic testosterone and then you optimize the hormones while they're on that,

their brain speed is faster than someone who's not. That is an absolute fact. There are studies, there's all sorts of Harvard's done a lot of studies on that. In fact, therapeutic testosterone makes a man strategic and tactical in their thoughts versus the bro science of, Oh, it makes you unbalanced and roid rage. I mean, I do not know. And again, I've said this on many shows and many interviews. I did not know any person in our space who's using therapeutic testosterone, who hasn't become more surgical and more tactical in their world than before, right?

And again, I mean, I'm the testosterone guy. So I mean, like I hear this from thousands and thousands of guys. I hear this from hundreds and hundreds of aspiring entrepreneurs. And so like, I know that it does that, but to your question, like what can you do to improve brain health?

Sleep is huge. We're all sleep deprived today because of these. And again, if you live in, to your question, like what can you do to improve brain health? Sleep is huge. Um, we're all sleep deprived today because of these. And again, if you live in, you're not sleep deprived if you live in the wilds of Montana or Wyoming and you have nothing around you. Okay. And you're sleeping in a quote unquote ancestral environment. And by the way, Brian Hoyer, the EMF guy says, if you put a Faraday cage around your bed, you can be ancestral. And, and because people are going to ask how much does a Faraday cage cost around your bed, depending on the cage around your bed, you can be ancestral. And because people are gonna ask

how much does a Faraday cage cost around your bed? Depending on the size of your bed, it's $2,000 to $5,000. So if you have a California king like me and you, it's 5K. And you got top of the line. How do you get one of those? So he comes out of your house and they do it. They just install it right around your bed.

But he swears that if you put the paint in your bedroom and then put a Faraday cage around your bed, you won't, he says it's life, it's so life altering. And again, I have no idea. So I'm just speaking from what I've heard. But Ben Greenfield has it, Brekka has it. I think Gary Brekka showed some videos of it. They all say it's the most life altering thing.

I mean, Ben has been like texting me, like, you gotta do it, bro. And these guys, they're not getting paid for recommending this. I mean, yeah, they have affiliate deals with these companies, but it's insane. It just looks kinda cool. It reminds me of being a kid and you build a fort.

Brian told me, he's like, look, bro, if you put that in there, you and Monica will literally, you won't believe it. That's it, I'm getting one. So, I mean, he literally said that you will not believe it. It's like sleeping outside with the stars And it's he said it's life-altering. I mean again, I have no idea I've just heard from other people have said it but yeah

It's not really again when you factor in how long you're in your bed Is it is it not worth doing I like that idea because it just it cuts out I mean, I'm sure he's still gonna recommend and suggest that you do, you know have other measures But you know, it just eliminates All the other guesswork since you're literally in a cage that doesn't allow anything to come in There's one so I'll send you so you can post this with the show notes or whatever I'll send you guys his report and you guys can use it if you want to use it or not use it It's pretty cool. It's very very you know, he doesn't try to make money. He just says what I would do

optimal It's very, very, you know, he doesn't try to make money. He just says what I would do, optimal Rolls Royce, right? So like if you wanna do everything, but he basically will show you that one of the big prime movers is you buy a dirty electricity box. If you have, do you guys have solar? Yes. I know. I had solar when I lived in San Diego too, and don't even get me going,

that's such a solar Solar is radiating your body insanely unless you have protective measures. So you have a Tesla too. Yeah, all right I saw that but that's bad too. Yeah, so so the reality is Dude, it's all Electric cars shortened lifespans. That's the fact there's Because they don't have, all the manufacturers, this is truth, and again, do you know, what's his name, Justin Franzen in Southern California, do you know him? So he's the guy that talks about

what the electric cars are doing. But all the manufacturers could easily take and implement Faraday cages around the ECU, but it's too much money. They lose profit. So they don't do it. But I'm not joking. He says this, this is scary shit.

If you sit, which most people in major cities because they're in traffic, if you sit in your car in the morning and charge while you're working, 10 years off your life, 10 years off your life. That's how bad it is. You do it one time? No, he's saying if you're just regularly sitting in there charging, which most people do, right?

Cause they have a commute. So anyway, we just rabbit hold. What were we talking about right before that that I wanted to say about, oh, the box, the box. So if you have solar, he sells an $1,800 box. It's called shielded healings, dirty remover and you put that in your house That's gonna do more than any of the other implements Because that is gonna get rid of surges and all of our smart meters and smart machinery and smart technology

Which is constantly causing surges see that's what we don't realize The other thing is is like here right all of us him over there all of us in this room See, that's what we don't realize. The other thing is, is like here, right? All of us, him over there, all of us in this room, we're being bombarded with tech right now. And so he says that if you have a studio like this, you should have one of those dirty shields to block, you know, again, the surges.

Because he says the surges are actually more powerful than the actual harmful dissonant EMF. So if you just break that down, and when I looked at that, I was like, wow, it's 1800 bucks, I'm sure it's gonna cost, electrician and professional installs gonna cost me another four or 500, because they put it right on your panel.

But that would be your thing, right? So it's like, and then if you wanna go deep down the rabbit hole and you wanna paint all of your kids' rooms and your wife and your room, that would be your next thing. And by the way, that's not expensive. You can paint a master bathroom, I mean master bathroom, a master bathroom, I mean, master bathroom,

a master bedroom, a sizable one for probably like 12, 1500 bucks. So it's not a big deal. And that's with install, you know what I mean? And by the way, you paint it black and then you prime it and then you paint over it. And that's how it works. The other thing is, and this is what I just spent

four grand on because I'm like, you know what? He told me, he's like, dude, your daughters. They're charging next to their bed They've got you know, all these like unprotected not plugged in router not routers, but plugs He's like you got to upgrade your plugs. You got to get real Power inverters that actually are protected. What are those? You know just like power blocks like you probably have one down here now Set your power on too But like they're all unshielded in dirty electricity. So you've got to get the ones that are shielded

So I literally got my entire just said, you know what? I'm spending the money I'm getting rid of all the bad stuff to get your kids to get you know, get that shit out of their room Or just have it be away from them a little bit So the plugs are like if you have if your Mac house or a PC house the Mac the Mac plugs are 90 and the PC plugs are like, if you have, if your Mac house or a PC house, the Mac, the Mac plugs are 90 and the PC plugs are 75, right? And so you're going to, depending on how many bedrooms, how many kids you're probably going to spend. I mean, I bought, you know, for our room, for the studio, for everything,

like wherever I had a circuit breaker, not a circuit, but what are these called? You know, the power, the multiple pong things he got. Just power strips. Yeah, power strips. I couldn't think of what it's called. So I got six of those. And then I got as many plugs as I could, portable and plugging in my house.

And then the other thing he recommends, if you want to do is like, you can actually get the shielded. So you take out your outlets and you put shielded outlets in. And the new shielded ones that they sell actually have USB-C and USB-A built into it. So you can just plug right in.

And what's cool about that, and I didn't know this, but he's like, dude, if you plug into there, you can plug it right next to your head. You just gotta turn your phone off. You know what I mean? But there's no, it completely transmutes the negative frequency.

So I mean, I don't think we're gonna even talk about this. I did wanna talk a little bit about hyperdimensionality if you wanna go down there, because I think that's a big thing. I think a lot of people are becoming spiritually inclined and waking up today. But I personally do think that if you want to go down there, because I think that's a big thing. I think a lot of people are becoming spiritually inclined and waking up today. But I personally do think that if you mitigate EMF from the baby steps to whether or not you can afford going deeper,

I think it'll change your life in a lot of ways. I've heard from too many smart people in our space who have all said that once I did what Brian Hoyer said, everything improved. I mean, I think young kids minds, you know, who are so impressionable and they're on screens all day, whether it's TikTok or Snapchat or whatever they're on, I think that'll help too.

Any good tips for the phone or especially like a lot of kids are on like tablets and stuff like that. Any good, is there anything you can put like on the phone or on the tablet to assist and have it just be less dangerous? No, I think it's just moderating use. I think that all of us as parents, and it's hard, right, especially high school kids, because they need their technology to perform,

to do their homework, to do everything, to keep up with the Joneses. We regulate our kids. It's six o'clock, you're done. You know, the freshman might ever now and then have to then go on her MacBook Pro to do homework. And of course my junior Alex, the one you met, she has to be on there, but their phones are in our hands.

There's none of that. So I mean, I just think that you just have to regulate usage. But I mean, I'll be the first one to admit it's getting harder and harder because the kids need it. They gotta work with it. They're doing stuff that is involving their tablet, laptop or phone. We were talking about the brain and biohacks, I guess, for the brain.

And we, and we ended up talking a lot about sleep, but what are some other things that you've done that you feel has been really helpful, whether it's memorization, focus or whatever. So it's a great question. So sleep for sure. I think naps are huge. I think that right now, if you can sleep seven hours uninterrupted, well, here's my problem. So I'm 54. I told you, I have a prostate issue. I've had it since I was late twenties before I even started

therapeutic testosterone or doing anything else. I always have to wake up and take pee once a night. Right? Do you do that? I do. Okay. So most men- I've been doing that for 20 years. Yeah, exactly. So most men in their 20s, 30s and 40s, especially men on therapeutic testosterone, usually have to wake up.

And again, this is natural hypertrophy of the prostate, right, BPH, benign prostate hypertrophy. As we get older, it increases in size and swells. And so you do that. So if you have it where it's like, you're waking up twice, your sleep is disturbed. Why do you wake up twice? Is it prostate related or is it this related?

It's usually this related, right? Guys like us, we're drinking a lot of water. We have increased metabolic demands, increased electrolyte demands. So like we're drinking a lot of water. So like- Maybe you worked out later or you didn't get a chance to drink enough water and then you're pounding it

before you go to bed. You're damned if you do, damned if're done with water or with with hydration because it's bad if you're dehydrated, you might wake up less, but you're still dehydrated cellularly so that's bad versus being hydrated but waking up more than once. Right? Like last night, I mean, dude, my body was so melted down. I woke up twice to go to the bathroom last night, you know, and that's kind of normal for me now. So I would say for a guy to have really peak functioning brain power, if you can get your, again, depending on your age, if you're, let's just say you're in your thirties, forties, fifties or older.

If you can get it to where you're only waking up once a night, that's a good path. I think naps are critically important. I think that five to seven to nine, even 12 minute, most people can't do it for 12 minutes, but if you can do five, seven, nine minute power nap in the middle of the day, whether you're standing, sitting in a lazy boy or even have a place, like if you're in a company and you're a wage slave

and you have a place where they have sleep quarters and you can do that, I think that's dramatic. I just think that the more we can get polyphasic restorative sleep in a 24 hour circadian rhythm cycle, the better we're gonna be. Now as far as what can you take, there's really nothing. I don't drink caffeine anymore.

Every now and then, if I'm completely melted down and I have to function, I'll take a powder form of caffeine. But it's not even a strong cup of coffee. We are over caffeinated, I'm sure you've had people tell that. Caffeine is a very, very potent, it was responsible for the industrial revolution, shot out to caffeine, but at the same time,

most people's adrenals are shot because they over consume caffeine, so replace caffeine with something else. How do you feel about low caffeine teas? Because I usually do decaf or absolutely amazing green tea or load them up with polyphenols. Amazing. Okay. Amazing. Those are great. Do you do tea anymore? Do you, cause you said no caffeine. So do you even not really drink tea? So if I'm going to take something, I take tea, a cream. I don't take tea, right?

So tea, a cream is obviously one of those magical, you know, uh, calm stimulate stimulants for the brain where it literally up-regulate you but won't cause any kind of side effects or any receptor attenuation. But you can get that off cheap on Amazon. I'll take like a 200 milligram one of those. The two things though that I will mention that I will use and do use every now and then are,

one is a drug, it's Tessafensine. I'm sure you're familiar with it. We do sell it at bio-ongevity labs. Tessafensine is also an orphan a drug. It's test of benzene. I'm sure you're familiar with it. We do sell it at bio longevity labs Tessa fencing is also an orphaned drug. It started off as again. I hate saying this because I'm so anti SSRIs But it started off as an experimental down that path of becoming an SSRI and they orphaned it The biohacking community found out about it about five years ago because it actually has this incredible ability to dull appetite and increase metabolism. But when you look at the drugs, pharmacokinetic and dynamics, you see that it increases BDNAF. So brain derived neurotropic factor is obviously the flow state that we want in our brain. So if you use a micro dose of that drug on days that you're really, really cognitively

in a cognitively demanding task, it's an awesome drug. I love that drug. By the way, it also has this rare ability to not cause receptor attenuation or addiction. So you can cold turkey it. You could use it for two years in a row and stop taking it and you have no effects, no side effects, no symptoms. Now people who have taken SSRIs in their life,

who have their brains rewired and have a lot of issues of synaptic and prefrontal cortex and serotonergic pathways, when they take that, they literally will tell us that they'll lay in bed at night staring at the ceiling like thinking about all the work they have to do because they can't sleep. Because it's doing something to undo the harm that the SSRI caused.

So again, that's just a side note to that. The other one is our product now, which you guys can Google real quick, it's called Bio side note to that. The other one is, you know, our product now, which you guys can Google real quick, it's called BioMind, which Alex designed. He gave me some, I haven't even tried it yet. You haven't taken it yet? I haven't taken it yet. Oh dude, I was hopeful that you took it.

So we gave that out last week as samples at the A4M conference in Florida, and every single person that we gave it to, we gave it to like seven people in the morning, all came back later that day and say, how do I buy this? So again, shout out to Alex, he designed this. That has a potent stage two Alzheimer drug that is raving in the studies called J147.

And then it also has NuPept, which you guys are familiar with, which is a racetam, and then also has, what's the third? NuPept's supposed to help you. I can't even think of what's the third. Oh, dihexa, which is a very powerful nootropic peptide. Now, I'm very- So this can help with learning.

Like if you're learning something new, right? I mean, again, I don't wanna make this commercial for our company, but this is the strongest oral nootropic supplement in the marketplace right now. There's nothing that comes close. And again, it's an oral supplement that we sell as a small molecule, but it's basically three drugs are in it. It's as simple as that in micro doses. And they're all very synergistic to enhancing, you know, call it

the prefrontal cortex, neurocognitive pathways, neurogenesis. I mean, it's very, very powerful, but it's not jittery. It's not increasing beta andrenergic stimulation. It's not increasing heart rate. It's not making people like, it's not like an upper, it's not at all. It's not jittery, it's not increasing beta andrenergic stimulation, it's not increasing heart rate, it's not making people like, it's not like an upper. It's not Adderall, it's not Vyvanse, it's not any of that shit. It's just, the best way I can say it is you take it, everything gets brighter. And by the way, I'm not on it right now

because I don't have any, because we can't keep it in stock. But it's very, very powerful, and if I was gonna take something, it would always be a rotation of testofensine maybe once or twice a month when I really needed it. And then I would take BioMind like two or three times a week. You can even just take it twice a week. Again, in the research and Alex worked with people

for a couple of years with it, there's no real side effects, there's no come down, it's not addictive. And again, it's not stimulating heart rate. So it's not making you jittery or it's not burning out your receptors or burning out your adrenals or anything like that. I will never go to a doctor ever again

about my general health. All they wanna do is put you on pills. Really well said there by Dana White. Couldn't agree with him more. A lot of us are trying to get jacked and tanned. A lot of us just wanna look good, feel good. And a lot of the symptoms that we might acquire as we get older, some of the things that we might have,

high cholesterol or these various things, it's amazing to have somebody looking at your blood work as you're going through the process, as you're trying to become a better athlete, somebody that knows what they're doing, they can look at your cholesterol, they can look at the various markers that you have, and they can kind of see where you're at,

and they can help guide you through that. And there's a few aspects too, where it's like, yes, I mean, no, no shade to doctors, but a lot of times they do want to just stick you on medication. A lot of times there is supplementation that can help with this. Merrick Health, these patient care coordinators,

are going to also look at the way you're living your lifestyle, because there's a lot of things you might be doing that if you just adjust that, boom, you could be at the right levels, including working with your testosterone. And there's so many people that I know that are looking for, they're like, hey, should I do that?

They're very curious. And they think that testosterone is going to all of a sudden kind of turn them into the Hulk, but that's not really what happens. It can be something that can be really great for your health because you can just basically live your life a little stronger, just like you were maybe in your 20s and 30s.

And this is the last thing to keep in mind, guys. When you get your blood work done at a hospital, they're just looking at these minimum levels. At Merrick Health, they try to bring you up to ideal levels for everything you're working with. Whereas, if you go into a hospital and you have 300 nanograms per deciliter of test everything you're working with. Whereas if you go into a hospital and you have 300 nanograms per deciliter of test,

you're good bro, even though you're probably feeling like shit. At Merrick Health, they're going to try to figure out what type of things you can do in terms of your lifestyle, and if you're a candidate, potentially TRT. So these are things to pay attention to to get you to your best self. What I love about it is a little bit of the back and forth

that you get with the patient care coordinator. They're dissecting your best self. And what I love about it is a little bit of the back and forth that you get with the patient care coordinator. They're dissecting your blood work. It's not like you just get this email back and it's just like, hey, try these five things. Somebody's actually on the phone with you going over every step and what you should do. Sometimes it's supplementation, sometimes it's TRT, and sometimes it's simply just some lifestyle habit changes.

All right, guys, if you want to get your blood work checked and also get professional help from people who are going to be able to get you towards your best levels, head to MerrickHealth.com and use code powerproject for 10% off any panel of your choice. Super cool, well where can people get all this stuff? Where can people find you? I know you have, let's talk about your book too

that you wrote a while back and that has a lot of success behind it So where can people pick that up and check that out too for sure? So I have a site on my site. So by the way All my info is available for free. I give away everything for free. I'm a service to others being as you know It's about for me. It's about how many people can I help? It's not about how much money I know you hear people say it's cliche But I really truly do desire to help as many people as I possibly can so I give away all my stuff for free If you go to jcambl.com forward slash free books, you will see all of my books that I've written Available as a free PDF downloadable. We also have a ton of like, you know

Content that are like free lead magnets like the ten 10 mistakes, the 10 questions to ask your doctor when you start therapeutic testosterone, the 10 mistakes that people shouldn't make when they start peptides. I mean, there's just so much free stuff that's there. And then obviously, you can find old podcasts and stuff like that. Hopefully, eventually we'll put this podcast up there.

I guess that we just had on the show, he was talking about how that's how he got started. He read your book. That's awesome. Which one? The TOT Bible? Yes. Yeah, so the TOT Bible was the second book

I wrote on therapeutic testosterone, published in 2018. It was really, it was probably the first book that really brought me into the marketplace and people started finding out about me. But my first book, which was in 2015, the one I told you about this morning with Nelson, was called the definitive TRT manual.

And that's a really, really powerful book. Like that book has sold just a few less than the TOT Bible, but those books are still the number one and number two selling books ever on their beat. You still feel strongly about what you wrote then when you look at it or you're like, hey, I was pretty good.

I was on point pretty good with a lot of stuff. So it's 80% right, right? So like- That's pretty good, yeah, because things change so quick, right? Dramatically and very truthfully, the women's stuff in that book is off. It's probably 50% off Right now hunter and I my business partner shout out to hunter Williams. We are writing or creating a course That's gonna be called quantum TRT

And I promise anyone listening to this that it will be the de novo standard for like what you should do Well, let's talk about this for a second because I think this is important. We talked about this. I forgot about your hyper dimensional stuff. Oh, no, we go down that path. I think we do need to talk about that a little bit before we get out of here. This is an amazing podcast. So truthfully, this is what needs to be done in testosterone today, therapeutic testosterone.

We obviously know we don't block estrogen, we don't have to talk about AIs. Anybody who still prescribes AIs does not understand the purpose of estrogen in therapeutic hormones, and by the way, this is for men and women. Yeah, you were saying one milligram for men, right, with a shot of testosterone? When you say AIs, what do you mean by the way?

Aromatase inhibitor medication. So 90%, sadly, because it just seems like it's getting worse and worse and worse of doctors in the space today in the United States, let's just call it the West, because outside of the West there's still not even hormone optimization. It's insane. Most guys in Europe that are our friends that are on testosterone, they do it by themselves underground because they don't have doctorate to prescribe. They just don't, they don't have the knowledge. It's

insane. But the truth is is that blocking testosterone, excuse me, blocking estrogen or blocking the conversion of estrogen when you're on therapeutic testosterone is a lifespan shortener. It's a cell toxin, an aromatase inhibitor, just like a DHT inhibitor is a cell toxin, so is an AI. We are now finding out that due to the desensitization of androgen receptors because of our toxin load. Most men are not absorbing testosterone at the tissue level like they did 10, 15, 20, 30, 50 years ago. Right. So how do we overcome that? We used to think the answer was by giving them more testosterone. We now know it's partially that, but we now know it's also providing therapeutic estrogen at the same time they get testosterone. I'm seeing this, this has probably been going on for a year now.

I'm seeing men who inject estradiol, siphonate at somewhere between point, you know, half a milligram to one milligram with every shot of TRT seeing incredible results, increased, improved libido, increased brain function, enhanced wellbeing, just a sense of, wow, like I'm doing it. I've been doing it now for six months. You start cooking and cleaning a little bit more too? It's a game changer.

No, no, no, it's a good question. And I'm glad you said that though, Mark, because most people think that estrogen is a female hormone and they think that estrogen is responsible for femininity and emotions and all that stuff. It's the exact opposite. In fact, my mentors in this space, I'll give them shout out Dr. Keith Nichols,

Dr. Rob Komenarik, Dr. Neil Rougier, these guys are the fathers of hormone optimization and they really understand this. Dr. Neil Rougier has been really, literally prescribing estrogen to his male clinics, male patients on TRT for six years. He's got guys taking as high as like five milligrams a day, right? And like to me that's too much,

but obviously depending on everybody's biochemically unique, some people have that need medicinally. But if you give a man today who's on therapeutic testosterone, a tiny, tiny micro dose of estrogen, you are enhancing the effects of testosterone at the tissue level, right? It's only good things come where there's an issue Potentially is if a man has a prostate issue because if you give them too much estrogen the studies show that too much testosterone and estrogen can convert to a

Different form of estradiol which can exacerbate Bph or expand the swelling of the prostate. Most of the time it's transient and doesn't last. But again, you want to avoid that. But most guys that are injecting estradiol and very micro doses along with their testosterone today, just rave about it. They're like, wow, this is a game changer. So that's what I would say about testosterone. Now let's talk about hybrid dimensionality. Yeah. What the hell is that?

I've never heard of it until you mentioned it today. Okay. So, so as I told you, um, I've always been a seeker. Before I became this TRT guy, Peptide's guy, I was always like going down the paths and rabbit holes of consciousness and understanding like who we are and why we are, what we are and what's going on here living in this realm. And thankfully I was introduced to the works of a woman by the name of Laura Knight Yadchik, and she is a genius researcher who now lives in France. She's an American, but she basically wrote a book called The Wave Series, and it's basically a book about, I mean, everything. The truth about our reality, quantum physics. I mean, everything that is now like hot spots of stuff

that people talk about today She was writing about in the early 90s, but she was heavily suppressed no one I mean you guys have never heard of this person I guarantee you and and you should because she's one of the greatest writers of all time one of the smartest people on the Planet, but her stuff has been heavily suppressed Anyway, so once I started getting you I read all of her books and the wave series is a book is a series of eight books. Maybe it's nine, it's eight or nine books. Anyway, she covers everything about reality,

but what you learn in that book series, and again, this is not just her because she has been able to basically quantify thousands if not hundreds of thousands of years of other authors and other research and put them all together in this book, but it's basically she's also talking to a Hyperdimensional consciousness. It's essentially us from the future like way in the future who is telling her Not by interfering in our world, but basically giving her information that comes from the future when we ask the right questions

That again doesn't upset like our current reality of like what is to come and what is going on. And so as I started becoming familiar with this information in the last three years, like I've really understood what hyperdimensionality is. And so basically what is hyperdimensionality? It's understanding that we are not the top of the food chain. As beings in third density, which is again,

I was telling you this morning, let's quantify this. First density is this, second density is animals and plant life, third density is humans, fourth density is above us. Think of it as a biphasic human, so that means it's like physical in a meat modem suit, but it's also energetic. So you could be energetic, right? So you hear people talk about they leave their body, they astral project.

So it's a combination of being able to astral project on a thought versus moving back into a physical body. That would be fourth density. Fifth density would be basically where we go when we die. So think of like, again, when we die, I mean the physical body expires, right? Because our energy, our soul, our spirit, whatever you want to call it, goes to fifth density,

which is called the zone of contemplation I mean the physical body expires, right? Because our energy, our soul, our spirit, whatever you wanna call it, goes to fifth density, which is called the zone of contemplation. In the zone of contemplation, we then have our soul review, life review, whatever you wanna call it, and then we are given tasks by, called an angelic group, a soul group, a family group,

whatever, to where it go next. And then there's two densities higher than that. Think of sixth density would be archangels. If you're Christian and you believe in angels and you believe in like higher guidance and divine beings, that's what sixth density is. And then seventh density would be God or source consciousness, universal consciousness,

however you see it. Is there densities above that? Most likely, but we from our level of reality and our level of understanding in this third density body and this consciousness and this physical body, that's how we explain and understand it. So when you become cognizant of that, and this is weird, we eat animals, who eats us, right?

There are beings eating us. We are not, are we being eaten physically or are we being eaten energetically? Both. The fourth density beings that are higher than us, which is going on right now, I mean, all you have to do is look at COVID. You can look at adrenochrome harvesting,

sex trafficking, organ harvesting, all that stuff. When they come into our reality, remember they're biphasic, they have to eat things just like we eat things to sustain a physical body's life and nourishment. So in fourth density, they don't have to, right? The way you look at the seven densities is like, they can look down when they're higher than us, but we can't look up. We're limited in our third density view, right?

So densities seven are different than dimensions. Dimensions are unlimited per density. So when you talk about Avengers and you talk about the walls of the multiverse, there's unlimited timestamps and timeframes in a density level. So like in third density is the multiverse. So you've got a different Mark Bell

and a different Jay Campbell at different times and spaces in the multiverse. So you've got a different Mark Bell and a different Jay Campbell at different times and spaces in the multiverse, right? So there could be a different, all things exist, all permutations exist in the hyperdimensional aspect of the multiverse. But in the seven densities, like fourth density is a higher level of consciousness,

a higher level of awareness, a higher level of existence than third density But there would be also a multiverse and fourth and then fifth again if it's the zone of contemplation It's like where we go to be not I mean, I mean, I guess you could say judged, you know again It's your review. You just died and now you're going, you know to where souls go then six is like we're Energetic you're just an energetic construct. You don't have a physical body. You're just energy, right? Again, an archangel or something like that.

And then seventh, I don't know how to explain it, it would just be God. It's like omniscience, all source, all knowing, all consciousness, and you're more than energy, you're probably just everything, you're everything and anything, I think, is the best way to say it. But if you're going back to the think is the best way to say it but

If you're going back to the whole realm of understanding hyper dimensionality if there are beings above us That eat us both energetically and physically Then you start realizing that you're not the top of the food chain And so then you get to a place of like, okay. Well, if I'm in third density right now in this physical body What is my goal and your goal and again, we don't all get to this level of awareness. I think we have to work to get there But our goal is to serve At your highest and best right because if we're all here as spiritual beings to evolve and grow our souls or to grow Evolve and grow our consciousness. How are we gonna do that? We're gonna do that by serving others You have a choice in this level of reality to serve self,

which is what most people do. And I'm not saying that to you, I'm just saying all of us. When you're born into a physical body in third density, you're immediately serving self. Because you have to eat shit, F-U-C-K, you know, to survive. Like these are literally parts of us that we have to do. They're non-negotiable. But we get to a level of understanding, hopefully,

that we can choose to serve others. And if we choose to serve others, and I know you choose to serve others, and I'm sure you guys all serve others, by what we're doing right now, we're serving others. If you make this a general part of your day and your day-to-day life, it's my belief, it's my opinion, it's my knowing that you will get

the ability to graduate to the next level of reality. So if we get to the next level of reality being fourth density, their service to others fourth density and their service to self fourth density. Service to self fourth density is like the evil. It's the negative beings, it's the reptilians, it's the grays, it's the mantids, it's all these things that people talk about

in the esoteric teachings that exist at that level of reality that are purely service to self. So they serve self only. And so if you're in this reality of third density and all you give a shit about is money and fucking people over, then guess who's running your life and who's observing you and who's connected to your energy. So we always have a choice in my opinion to serve others and connect to those higher density benevolent beings or serve self and be under the yoke of the dark side. And I think in our reality, if you think about this, like if you think of the Star Wars, you know, series, they talk about the light, they talk

about the dark. We're constantly in this level of reality being shown the path. And again, the path is the right hand path is again to serve others, to choose right action, or the left hand path is to serve self and not care about other people. And if you serve self and not care about other people, how do you actually graduate to another higher level of reality that is benevolent?

I don't think you do. I think if you're super evil and you eat kids and you harvest adrenochrome and you do all these things that we hear about elites Doing which by the way is not conspiracy theory. You can google all this stuff. I don't know if it'll ever come out But it's all real Then I think you can actually graduate to evil I think you can move up a level and you can be under the yoke of like, you know Whatever you want to call them reptilians mantids demons

I mean every religious theory or belief system is thinking about the same thing. Everyone's right. They just have different ways to quantify things. Christians think of good and evil as devil, demons, angels. Islam thinks about the djinn and the angels. Judaism thinks very similar things. If you get into the Eastern, you know, you have the Magavita, and you have like the Indian, I forget they're called what the deities are called. But it's all the same. It's just different names.

But everything is light and dark. So again, if you have left-hand path, that's dark. And you have right-hand path, that's light. The right-hand path, they call it that way. Because if you choose right action, you're on the right-hand path. The left-hand path is wrong action. Right? So I think all of us have a choice in this current level reality. Every day we wake up to serve dark, which is left hand, or serve light, which is the

right hand. And again, by serving the right hand path, you're allowing your soul to evolve and grow so that you can eventually break out of here, Which again, if you're thinking Christian, that's ascension to the next level. And then there's another level after that again, you know, sixth density. So it's like, we're just here in these trials as souls in these physical bodies to do enough right, hopefully. And again, not everybody chooses right. A lot of people choose bad, but if you choose right, you'll eventually graduate. And I just think that's literally like the path. And if you look at any ancient philosopher, any metaphysicist or teacher, and I've studied a lot of them,

they all talk about this. They say the path is you come out of the womb and you're at the base of the jungle and the path is back to the top of the mountain. And the top of the mountain is choosing right action as much as you possibly can because you're gonna be in service to self when you come out, right?

You gotta survive, you gotta eat, you know, your mom's gotta burp you and do all these things, but eventually you can wake up consciously where you can actually choose to help people. And I just think that we're in a society today, again, this instant gratification society where not enough people serve others.

Like when you're at an airport, you know, how many of us are helping people down the ramp when you're sitting there? You know what I'm saying? Like we can choose to serve others who are less inclined or less able, but we have to make that as a choice. And that has to be our pole star, our guiding energy.

And if we use that as our guiding energy every single day, it's my belief that we will eventually graduate. And again, Christians would say, go to heaven, but heaven would be the next round or the next level of conscious reality or conscious awareness. Yeah, it's not always easy to pick, choose the right thing every single time, every single day. Cause there's like temptations towards other things,

but you do it over and over again as a practice and you should get used to it, whether it's your diet or your other forms of your lifestyle. So it sounds like that's something that's, you know, I guess each person needs to find and research and study stuff to kind of help them get through each and every day in a particular way. And that sounds like something that's helped you immensely.

Dude, a hundred percent. And, you know, nobody, I don't judge anybody for their beliefs or their knowing or their awareness or whatever. Everybody's walking the same path back to source consciousness, to God. That's the path. Like as a being, we're all going back to perfection, which is God. And you choose the rate and speed you go back to that path.

Right? And again, a lot of people who choose evil, who choose left path, left hand path action, I don't know if they make it back. Again, if we're, cause most people who listen to this podcast understand Christianity. And I was raised Catholic and I understand Christianity very well.

And I think if you look at it from that perspective, it's again, the same stuff. It's just different phraseologies, it's different terms. But if you choose the left hand path, you choose evil. You align with Satan or the devil or whatever you want to say, right? And so it's like, if you choose that path while you're in a physical body and look, man, like if you really understand the laws of hyper-demonetiality, you will understand that reincarnation is very real. That's not a belief. There's a reason that 70% of this planet believes in reincarnation. Like there are people that have obviously, um, obviously you know done past life regressions and regression hypnosis and they've seen themselves in past lives

Like you can it's I won't say it's verifiably provable because anybody can prove anything and by the way There's no such thing as different levels of truth. There's truth and there's error that is universal People can believe and perceive whatever they want, but there's only truth and there's only error. That's like black and white. But at the end of the day, it's hard to verify in our current conscious awareness of reincarnation, but there's so many people that believe it's like Occam's razor.

It's like the logical understanding. And from what I've done in my meditation and my out of body of experiences, and yes, I have literally astral projected four times in my life and I know how to do it. But I consciously practice doing it. I'm certain that reincarnation is real. I'm certain that this is not the only experience

of our lives, that we go through these experiences to try our souls, to try our spirituality, to try our energy, to prepare us for more. Because again, what would be the purpose of being in a physical body if it wasn't to go better, I won't say bigger, but just to go on to a better place? You know what I mean? And again, we have a choice in our behaviors

every single day, our actions that we take. And let me just say, we'll end the podcast with this, like the two most important things that a human being does in a physical body. And again, not everyone learns this, but is to give and to receive love. And at the end of this experience in life, at this, when this physical body dies, we will not be judged on our physical things or our material possessions or any of that. We will be judged.

And again, I don't mean judged like some supreme deity is judging us, but from a soul level, we will only remember the love we gave and the love we received. And so it's like, if you are on this conscious journey of building your consciousness and raising your vibration and doing all these things to go beyond this current level of reality, given what receive love as much as you possibly can. And I think that too many people are in the process of receiving and not giving. And sometimes it's vice versa. But if you choose every single day to give love to people,

to say, hey bro, I love you, man, I really appreciate you. And you do that with your wife and your kids, and even just people you read on the street, you know what I'm saying? Like you will create that energy or that light, you know, in action, so to speak, that will allow you to graduate from this level of reality Faster than someone who's not doing that and I you know, there's been great musicians Just think sung these songs and said this stuff

But I mean think about at the end of your life What do you have other than the love that you gave the memories and the love you received which are the memories? So the more you do of that the better your life is gonna be it's as simple as that I cannot you know state it any better than that. Strength is never weakness. Weakness is never strength. Catch you guys later. Bye.