Mark Bell's Power Project - Power Project EP. 52 - Andy Frisella

Episode Date: May 16, 2018

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All right, peeps, we're live. We're going to go live today with Andy Frisella. You can check it out over at powerproject.live. Right now I'm live on Instagram, and I'm just going to give this a little bit of an intro before we dive into this. Andy Frisella is somebody I've been communicating with over the last year or so. I went out there to Missouri. Thank you, Smokey. I went out there to Missouri to visit First Form and was truly inspired by what they have going on. They have a very strong team. They have very just awesome things going on. Andy's an entrepreneur. He's somebody that I look up to in a lot of different ways. I admire him as a businessman, family man, entrepreneur man, ass kicker, worker, outer lifter guy. In every sense of the word, I admire a lot of the different things that he's got going on. Then also, I really enjoy the fact that it's him and his brother Sal that are running shit over there at First Form and are doing a great job of it. And they've done some very cool and

innovative things. Um, it's not like they've necessarily invented new supplements. If they have invented new supplements, I'm not aware of it, but they have executed on a lot of, uh, a lot of ideas and concepts and executed on them, uh, with more modern day technology and more modern things, you know, more modern times. Uh, Andy has, uh, has built up, uh, first form into the hundreds of millions of dollars, uh, which is everybody's goal is to, uh, you know, build up a brand the way that these guys have, these guys are real savages and real beasts. And we're going to talk to him today about like, what are the things that hold him back? You know, what are some things that hold him back from his goals? What are some things that hold him back from achieving some of the things, if there is anything, because the guy's achieving a lot.

He's moving fast. He's getting his name out there more and more in his podcast. He is growing at a very, very rapid rate. And so we're going to give him a call here in just a minute. Before I do that, I'm going to pop off of here. I see you, Jesse Burdick. You can check it out at powerproject.live if you want to watch that live. Myself and Andy Frisella, we're about to go live on the YouTube. www.powerproject.live later. Bam. Just going to record one more thing. Getting you guys warmed up for this. Go to powerproject.live.

Go to powerproject.live. Go to powerproject.live and watch and listen to myself and Andy Priscilla. See you guys over there. Powerproject.Live and watch and listen to myself and Andy Frisella. See you guys over there. PowerProject.Live. Later. Go to PowerProject.Live. All right. That was loud.

Okay. So, oh, one more thing. Here we go. So, Andy and I got in conversation today. And I want to kind of lead into this and talk just a second about, I've been helping him with his weight loss and helping him with some things. Now he and I have gone back and forth on some things that he is trying to do with his weight loss. He lost a lot of weight. First time he got down to 238 pounds, 237 pounds. He wasn't happy with it. He was kind of, he felt he was looking flat.

He was feeling that he got kind of skinny fat, um, uh, for a brief period of time. I don't know. He had some sort of lapse or something and, uh, went off the diet and just wanted to try something else. Um, he wasn't, uh, he wasn't that happy with, uh, he was happy with the fact that he was stuck losing weight and he lost weight. He wasn't happy with the way all of it came off. And I think towards the end, he was starting to feel like a shriveled up penis. And so this time around, he's like, you know, I'm going to do A, B, C, and D. And I've given him some advice. And he was like, fuck that. I ain't doing that.

I'm going to do it this way. And so we went back and forth on some different things. But anyway, he's back on the plan. He's back to being Jack and Tan. And we're getting ready to meet up at Summer Smash out in St. Louis at his facility, his first form facility. I will be there as a speaker. He will be there as an ass kicker, as always. And we're going to have a lot of fun.

It's going to be a lot of, you know, cool, some really fun and cool and cool time so let's get him on the horn i have a question to ask this guy calling andy frisillo oh how much you bench all of it what's What's up, buddy? How you doing? Good, man. How are you? Doing fucking awesome, man. I was just giving people a little history on you were stuck with your body weight a while back. And we got you down to about 238 pounds.

You weren't really that pumped about the way that you looked and the way that you felt. Can you talk about a little bit of that and talk about, you know, you were stuck for a little bit there, right? Well, I've been, you mean when I was stuck, like when we first started hanging out? Yeah, yeah. When you and I started falling in love with each other. Yeah. So, yeah, dude, I died it down from 350 all the way down to 268 270 and that's kind of where that's kind of where my bottom was and then when you and i met i had worked my way back

up like 285 you remember i was like i think it's the first day I weighed in when I started, um, like when I started back the day after you left, I was 287. Um, which should, that sounds like a lot, but you and I both know that like you and I could tuck a snap fingers and be that heavy. You know what I mean? Yeah. You gain weight fast. Yeah. So, uh, you know, you and I started working on the keto, uh, and this is, I did three cycles of like right around 30 days, like 28 days, I think two cycles of 28 days and then one cycle,

21 days. And I was down, um, in the, I was down to like two, I think I worked all the way down to fuck. What do we do? Two. I want to say two 35, i worked all the way down to fuck what do we do two i want to say 235 237 something like that yeah i think i was 238 and uh in three months and uh i was slow at first if you remember we were slow like i was you know and i was kind of still sticking around that 270 and then around the the beginning of November, from November to December, I went from like 265 to 240 literally in four weeks. And, you know, when I got down there, that last month, I implemented intermittent fasting on top of the keto. And I just went hard with that. And, you know, I and I just went hard as fuck with that. And, you know, I think I just went too hard, and I lost too much too fast.

And when I got down, because I've been leaner than that and heavier than that. Right. So I got down, and it felt good to know I could get down that light again. You know what I mean? Because, like, when you're 350, 230 sounds like a you know 230 is infinity away so um it was nice to see that on the scale but i just wasn't happy with how i look so the last you know three or four months i've been slowly putting um that weight back on and i'm sitting right around 260 right now i look good i mean i'm not i'm not i'm not super lean'm not, I'm not super lean, but I mean, I'm not fat either.

And now I want to get, you know, I'm fat for fucking bodybuilding. What are some things that sometimes derail, like might derail your success when you're trying to diet? Cause you're a guy that travels all over the place and you have speaking engagements. You run a multimillion dollar business. That's probably at some point going to be on its way to a multi-billion dollar business you're doing a lot of awesome things and you do your your life is uh you know your life's very busy life's very hectic what are some things that might sidetrack uh your nutrition well i actually uh for me personally that's why i like keto and i've

always been a keto guy like you know that like for the last 20 years i've done cyclical keto or different kinds of keto um i i prefer keto because i feel like it's flexible uh around traveling um for me like i have trigger foods like i have a legit food addiction like if i eat french fries or if I eat pizza or if I drink beer, it's fucking over, dude. Like I go crazy. And, uh, so, so for me, you know, just, um, just, I just need to have some really strict guidelines that I know I can't violate. You know what I mean? Um, but for derailing, I think, you know, for me having a couple of drinks, it starts to get me off track, you know, um, you know, when you travel a lot, people want to go to dinner and they want to have drinks and they want to hang out. That's something that's something personally for me that is that is that will help get me off track real fast.

Like it sounds like you're a little bit like me. Like I grew up with access to junk food. And so therefore, you know, I've kind of always had a taste for it. Yeah, dude. So, when I go to Hollywood, we have an office in Hollywood. And when I go to Hollywood, I stay at the W in Hollywood. And in the W in Hollywood, they have these little, like, snack trays. Oh, shit.

Yeah, dude. And every fucking time I go there, I end up uh, these little like snack. Oh shit. Yeah, dude. And every fucking time I go there, I end up going crazy on the fucking snack tray. And it starts with, it starts with those pop chips, you know, and then it ends with like everything on the whole tray. So, um, so now when I go there, I actually have them come up and take it out of the room. So yeah, that's the only, that's, that's the only way way to do it and do you just like having a beer here and there like you like just kind of kick back and have a beer and then that you know leads to other things yeah for sure for sure it does because uh like i i you know grew up in a italian family dude you know eating and drinking is like

normal shit and that's how we like socialize so the minute i get a couple beers you know then then habitually you know i want to eat and um you know it's been that i've just i'm just better off not drinking is really what it comes down to at all you know what i mean because it triggers me into eating you know um on keto you know you can get away with some drinking as you know right it actually helped push you into keto further but for me um even though it does that it triggers me to go off the plan so i try to stay away from it i noticed for myself that even foods that are like within a ketogenic diet sometimes those foods will trigger me and even overeating will trigger me off the plan.

So like if I make like a fathead pizza or something, then it's on, like, I want to have, you know, a Snickers bar and shit like that. Yeah, dude, it's, uh, it's for sure. A hundred percent. I relate to that. I think, I think that a lot of the food with anything, man, I feel like people try to push the limits of slackness, right? They try to cut as much corner off as they can. And it's no different with keto. You know,

you see all these keto recipes and all this crazy stuff that people are doing with the recipes. That's fine and good, right? It's good to work in some variety, but the truth of it is, is this is how I feel about it and you and i have talked about this before um i feel like that's not a good thing to do because i feel like it hurts you from mental discipline wise you know what i mean part of a diet it's deeper than just the physical results it's it's it's psychological too and you're training yourself to have discipline at least that's how i look at it and uh and i think that when you start adding in all these other foods that are similar to

foods that you ate when you were off your diet you're kind of defeating the purpose of learning some more discipline and strengthening that discipline muscle and so um you know i did that for a little bit dude like i was eating those those pizzas like uh meat pizzas and like that the truth is yeah dude i get better results when i don't eat that stuff i get better results when i when i stick to the basics you know the steaks uh hamburger bacon uh eggs and just the staple foods man and and uh cheese you know i'll do that um. Um, I do vegetables, I do Brussels sprouts, you know, just the basic shit. And, uh, you kind of mentioned, I was going to say, you kind of mentioned strengthening your, your willpower, um, with, uh, the way that you built up your business over the years, um, having a, uh, as you put it, a little, little nutrition store.

I like that you say that all the time because I know how that goes. Oh, yeah, you still got that little business over there. Oh, how's that little invention going that you have? And it makes you just want to light the guy's face on fire. Yeah. up your willpower over the years to try to convince yourself that you are strong enough, that you are powerful enough to lead the ship and to run a business like this? Well, it's funny, dude, because my issue, like, I feel like we all have skills in different areas of life.

And you see this a lot in fitness, right? You see these bodybuilders who are so disciplined about their training and their workouts, and they do all these things that are good for that aspect of their life, but their finances are in fucking shambles, right? Like they can't even barely pay their rent. And if they can, you know, and so for me, I'm kind of the opposite. Like in business, dude, I have unlimited discipline. Like it's not even hard for me. It's like, it's just, it's, I've just been able, I guess because I've been doing it so long, maybe it used to be hard. I just don't remember it ever being that hard.

Um, but when it comes to fitness and diet, you know, and maybe it's because we only have so much of that energy stored up inside of us. Like we only have so much discipline energy inside of us. And if we use it all on business, then maybe you don't have as much for fitness and vice versa. You know, I'm not exactly sure how it works, but it seems like most people can, can apply it in certain areas and then, and, and not in others. And the trick is be able to recognize that you have that power. You're just not applying it to the area that you want, you know? Yeah, look at Elon Musk.

He's been married four times, right? He can figure out all kinds of stuff, but he can't figure out how to stay married. Right. And the truth is, he's probably spending all his energy on his companies and his business and none on his relationships. So, you know, and that's kind of what I'm talking about. It's the exact same thing. It's just a different skill, you know? You hear's kind of what I'm talking about. It's the exact same thing. It's just a different skill, you know?

You hear people talk about balance all the time. Do you think balance even exists, or do you think that you have to be a little cockeyed to get ahead? I look at balance a little bit differently than what most people do. Balance, for most people, they look at it on a, um, a daily or a weekly scale. So they look at balance, like, all right, I work from nine, nine o'clock, five o'clock, five o'clock on is my time. And it's my family time. And that's how they look at it. And, uh, or they might look at it like Monday through Friday, I work hard. And then Saturday, Sunday,

my family time or whatever, my time, they don't have a fan, whatever time they want. Right. That's not how I've ever looked at it. I've always looked at it like, like I'm going to spend my first 20 years of adulthood,

just busting my ass so that I can have the rest of my life to do whatever the fuck I want and um so I tend to look at balance on a lifetime scale now with that being said there's absolutely no guarantee that you're going to live that whole life so it's kind of risky to think like that so you know it's not everybody has their own way they do balance and i don't think my way is better than anybody else's way i just i just that's how i look at it and um i you know i think it's very hard you have to be very disciplined and very very good uh and self-aware to be able to balance on a traditional scale, in my opinion. And, uh, and, and to be honest, you know, that's not me. So, yeah. And earlier, earlier you pointed out, like, you know, people are going to kind of take slack wherever they can, you know, people are going to kind of,

uh, cut corners wherever they can from a company standpoint. Um, what does that look like for you? Like, how do you, how do you, uh, how do you deal with things of that nature? And I know the company is, has grown by leaps and bounds over the years. Um, do you end up hiring everybody and, and letting everybody go and all those different things? And that's a pretty involved question. So when you first start and you're trying to bring on employees, you're going to go through a lot of people, okay? Because a lot of these people aren't going to represent the core values that you stand for. And most companies don't even understand what core values are. They don't identify them. They don't live by them.

They don't live by them they don't communicate by them and you know setting up a culture is very hard when you're a two-man or a three-man shop and you're trying to expand so would you say maybe in it maybe in a sense you think uh a lot of companies are also at fault it's not just you know because you keep hearing people talk about millennials being lazy maybe it's the companies don't have a fucking identity yet dude with millennials being lazy, that's bullshit. That's not what it is. Millennials aren't lazy. They're impatient.

So they lose their attention span quickly. And you can't blame millennials for being impatient when every single thing in their entire life is now automated or instant. Yeah. Okay? They can push a button and talk to every single friend that they know their whole entire lives in one second. They can text people, they can email people,

dude, when we were growing up, you know, you went outside and you came home when the fucking, when the lights went on, you know, and, um,

it was just a different thing. And you had to, there was more patience. You had to wait for things. And we created a society that just, um, cultivate lack of patience. And then had to, there was more patience. You had to wait for things. And we created a society that just cultivates lack of patience. And then we blame them for not having patience. So my opinion of millennials and do my entire company is millennials. I've got 200 millennials that directly work in St. Louis for me. And we kick ass. And the reason we kick ass is because

I've learned how to manage them properly. And the other thing about millennials, too, is that they're purpose driven. Most of them are not money driven. OK, and that's a good thing because your company should be purpose driven. you're not really morally or ethically doing anything that I personally believe is okay. Companies exist to solve a problem. They exist to provide a solution. They exist to help people with whatever it is they're looking to do. And in our case, we're looking to help people change their bodies, change their lives, change their physical appearance. And, you know, that's the higher purpose of why we exist. And so getting people behind that cause is not that difficult. And I actually really think the millennials suit our business model really well. But I think the thing, the reason millennials get

such a bad rap dude is because you have all these old men who've been in business for a long time, trying to manage them. And they're saying they're trying to push money in their face as the way to motivate them. And those people just aren't motivated by money, you know, the same way that maybe their generation was. Yeah, they're there for a higher purpose. They want to be part of something bigger than themselves. Yes, exactly. And dude, if you want to succeed in business right now, you have to be somebody who is of higher purpose because if you're not, your customers are going to screw it. So it, millennials are actually like a super awesome gift, the way that our situation is set up right now in our economy,

you know, uh, with social media marketing and influencer marketing and the way that we communicate so quickly, if you're not purpose driven and we're going to screw customers over and you're going to sell them shit that doesn't work or sell them things that don't provide a real solution for them, everybody's going to know instantly. So, you know, you should be purpose-driven, you know? I mean, I think it's the right thing to do. You know, there's some people that just walk around life with kind of their hair on fire. They kind of have a

chip on their shoulder they're just they they want to get ahead they just have this thing inside of them who the hell knows what it is they just got this fire this passion uh they want to get ahead they want to be ahead and in your situation you know i've heard you say that you're playing for blood i've heard you say uh we no longer drink from the skulls of our enemies and and all these things that most people would view crazy i'm sitting there just clapping i'm like this is fucking great because this is the way i feel oftentimes where did this come from this come from your dad or your parents or like grandpa or like where did this come from i mean yeah dude like my dad kind of bred that into us a little bit, I guess.

I mean, our first my very first Christmas present ever. My brother and I, when we when he was two and I was three or three or four was boxing gloves. So like and that never stopped. I mean, you had brothers, dude. We like we fucking I don't know if you guys fought, but we literally fought every single day for 20 years. And still to this day, like once a year, we'll get in a fight. At work, too. As soon as I get on, as soon as I talk to your brother, Sal, I've always, every time I talk to you and every time I talk to him, I talk shit about each other back and forth to try to get you guys to fight more.

Yeah, but dude, he knows who, he knows, he knows how knows on the top of me man like he might talk some shit but he's only one he's only ever won one fight from us yeah knocked you off the tractor you told me the cheap shot that's right he knocked me off the tractor when i wasn't looking but but yeah dude um you know those are really like those sayings that i use you know honestly bro like i've always been competitive but i've gotten more competitive as the years go because i i'm like an elephant man i never forget anything you know and the more shit people say to me the more more negativity that i get the more people don't think um do really just the more they talk

shit is the more fuel I get from it. And I've always been that way. I operate from the dark side and, uh, the worst thing, you know, the worst thing someone can do to me is provide me with that kind of energy because I, I'm very good at taking negativity and turning it into positive action. Like I don't sit there and stew and stay mad. I actually, when I get that fuel, I go do things that propel us forward. And I found that to be my,

a very good motivator for me. And a lot of people will say, you know, Oh, that's not okay. Blah, blah, blah.

You're doing it for the wrong. What difference does it fucking make? You're purpose driven and you're providing solutions and you're helping people get results and all this other good stuff? So, I don't know where it came from, dude. It had to have come from my dad, I guess. But the truth of it is that it's growing. What did your dad do for a living? He was an entrepreneur.

He, he was, he started before the internet. No way. Yeah, exactly. He was, he purchased a,

a garage full of electrical supplies. And then when he was 18 and then worked that into over the next 30 years, he worked it into a full blown electrical distributorship. So like electrical contractors would come by their, their, their wire, their breakers, the conduit from him. Um, so, you know, I got to grow up around entrepreneurship as well, which I know, like that was a huge deal for me. Um, cause I was all, my dad's always the kind of guy that's going to have something to teach him. You know, he's going to have a story, he's going to have a lesson. He's going to have something that, um, uh, you know, just to teach all the time that's been that way

forever. So I was very, like, I don't use the word luck very often, but being, having my dad as my dad was very lucky. He never helped us financially or he never gave us any money or helped us or anything like that but dude having him as a mentor was worth a million times more than anything he could ever gave me well and him not helping you was him helping you you know figured out yourself kind of deal he's that he that's how smart he is you know what i mean like he's he didn't feel bad about it either i used to get pissed at him about it i'd be like fuck dude i'm down here making like for the first three years of business i made zero dollars And he didn't feel bad about it either. I used to get pissed at him about it. I'd be like, fuck, dude. I'm down here making, like, for the first three years of business, I made $0.

The next seven years, I made $695 a month. You know, and I'm fucking, like, starving, dude, and working my ass off. He didn't even care. He was like, yeah, that's what you got to do. He wants to show you that you have to earn it. Yeah, he did the same thing, you know. But now I'm glad he never did, because now I feel a really strong sense of pride about what we've done. You know what I mean?

When you were saying earlier that you, uh, kind of play from the dark side, there's dangers to the dark side. I've seen star Wars many times over. Uh, is it ever, uh,

ever dangerous for you to, uh, to kind of use that negativity? Does it ever pile up on you and turn into anything negative for you to, uh, to kind of use that negativity? Does it ever pile up on you and turn into anything negative for you? Um, it can, man, it could eat you up. You know what I'm saying? Uh, I, I have had, uh, diagnosed depression for 20 years. So, um, one could make the argument that, you know, that contributes to that, but I don't believe that it does.

It's not related to that because I've become so good at taking in the negativity and turning it into good shit. I actually like it. So while you could easily say that from the outside, yeah, that contributes to this. I don't think that it does for me. But really what contributes to my depression more than anything is staying in the same place for too long, getting in the same routine for too long, and not taking time to really focus on making some changes. It's almost like an anxiety, right?

Like, fuck, I want things to be different or better, right? and do something and uh then i'm fine so and that's something that people don't really understand about depression either that i try to use my platform to communicate is that it always passes man you know um even if it lasts for weeks it eventually it eventually improves and um you know i the biggest thing i ever did man is i i didn't know i had it like i i knew you know i used to see those commercials you see those depression commercials where they're like if you have fucking suicide call this number and i would and i would like laugh and i'd be like dude i fucking have that every day these fucking pussies are calling taking pills for that shit like i thought so because i didn't have the

perspective to understand i've had it for so long that I thought it was normal. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, everybody thinks that. And they don't. And the best thing that happened to me, dude, is like 2012, I ended up having like a nervous breakdown. And I ended up having to go to the doctor. And they got me on some medication and got me some help.

And dude, it made a world of difference for me and if i hadn't done that dude i wouldn't be here because it was getting that bad um so like so like i try to like really stress the people that if they're having those thoughts if you're i'm not talking about having a bad fucking day you know everybody has bad days i'm not talking about being stressed but if you're thinking like if you're having visualization like thoughts of like shooting yourself in the fucking head or hanging yourself that's not normal you know what i mean and uh and people don't like people with depression a lot of them don't realize that because they've always had it you know and uh and that was that was me so uh now

it's it's something that i've learned to um i've learned to work through you know what i now it's, it's, it's something that I've learned to, um, I've learned to work through, you know what I mean? It's just a process. And a lot, I think a lot of people, when they end up committing suicide or, and, uh, hurting themselves and things like that, it's like their first really bad episode with it. So they don't know it's going to get better. You know what I mean? Right.

So, um, it's, it, I don't know, it's a, it's a really complicated subject, man, but it's something that people need to hear because a lot of these guys out there that are building these massive businesses and building these, you know, they're successful and blah, blah, blah. You know, they act like they're superheroes, you know what I mean? And they're, they've got all these skills and they're not human and, and, and to appease their own ego, you know? And the truth is, is like, I'm a normal motherfucker, just like everybody else. Uh, you, uh, give, give a lot of yourself and you give a lot of yourself through your podcast. And, uh, I can't imagine also to just to work the workload on top of that, you know, you communicating in different meetings and, um, obviously you have other goals that, that aren't just about, uh, first form. So, um, that can really tug at you quite a bit. Do you ever just feel like just not talking, like, just not like, I don't feel like fucking

doing a podcast. Yeah, for sure. And, and I've, and I've gotten, um, I have to do that, dude. Like if I'm not feeling it, I can't put out content because the content that I put out would be stupid. Like it's bad. So, uh, I have to feel it. Otherwise I just won't put out would be stupid. Like it's bad. So, uh,

I have to feel it. Otherwise I just won't do it. It gives you a lot of energy. Yeah. Right. A couple weeks out of the year, I just do podcasts for the week, you know,

or I won't do it for two weeks because I'm not feeling it. Or I won't do, I won't post online for, you know, three or four days or a week. Um, because like, I feel like if you don't have something to say,

don't fucking say anything. But yeah, that usually comes from having to expend a lot of energy in my business and then not having any leftover for the podcast or vice versa. Sometimes I put so much into the personal brand that I don't really have anything good to say to my company. You know what I mean?

Energy balance is a huge thing, I think. I think we all have a certain amount. And just like we said with like the discipline thing, I think we all have a certain amount that we could put into certain things in a lot of different skills. And when you use them all up for that day, they're gone, you know? There's some people that are high up the food chain like uh like dr dre and like there's some of these people they just wear the same shit every day they wear the same shirt and the same shoes they don't have to think about it yeah i do that i definitely do that yeah they just just get rid of some of the choices right one less thing you got to think about yeah i wear the same exact

shit every day like i literally in fact i could text you a picture of what my drawer, I have like 30 black v-necks. That's it. I wear a black v-neck or I wear a first form shirt or I wear one of your shirts. Yeah, you're always rocking the power shirts, man. I appreciate it. Yeah, dude, those shirts fit good. They fit good. It's a good shirt.

They make you look jacked. They make you look jack they make you look handsome that's right it makes you look at least like 20 pounds more muscle and 10 pounds less fat a lot of people don't know this about you but but uh you're pretty fucking strong and i think years ago you were you were benching over 500 pounds right yeah yeah um i actually have i actually want to get back to that uh but yeah i was i i've uh i tore my pack um when i was benching i benched 550 uh for almost a triple um and that was that was when i tore my pack i tore my pack coming back down that day on 4.05. Hey, never use less weight.

Just goes to show you. Huh? I said never use less weight. Just goes to show you, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Dude, you know, I was just lifting like an animal at that time. And yeah, at one point in my life, I was actually fairly strong. uh but these days i'm trying to really just

i'm in a good spot entry-wise so i'm i'm not training as heavy i'm training um more like a bodybuilder i would you know you're doing a lot of machines and stuff are you still hitting some free weights here and there you're doing some squats and deads and stuff or just mainly uh machines i'm doing a lot more machines than i was um i'll do i'll still do i'll still do uh like i'll still do flat bench a little bit um but um i do belt squats as opposed to squats right you know people can make fun of me and all they want but the truth is my legs are fucking gigantic without having to train them i don't do shit. So I'm lucky in that aspect. So, you know, I'm just training like an older dude, I guess.

Yeah, you said deadlift-wise, too, that you just haven't had a lot of coaching on it, so you don't want to fuck with it. You don't want to jack yourself up. Yeah, yeah. I want to learn to deadlift, honestly, dude. Like, I could pull a lot of weight, but I've never had any coaching. And I feel like if I had some coaching, I could pull a lot of weight but i've never had any coaching and i feel like if i had some coaching i could pull a lot more weight um but uh but yeah i want to come out

and actually learn from you guys yeah you got to come out the super training man we're waiting for you over here yeah so um you know dude i look at i always learn man i'm trying to you know i've been lifting my whole life so uh but uh, but I, you know, still, I learned something new every time I trained with like you or Michael Hearn or one of the guys who are just really in it. I like that because I like to feel like I don't know shit. Right. Yeah. You know, you, uh, have also, uh, built up your podcast. You know, your podcast is, is, uh, something that, um, is on fire right now. You're doing a great job with it. I love listening to it. Um, I love the diversity of it. I love that

sometimes the show's a little longer, sometimes the show a little shorter. And, uh, for me, sometimes I can just clip, you know, you just put it on and just, uh, listen to it while I'm on a plane or, or wherever it might be. What are you more proud of? You're more proud. This is a tough question for you. You're more proud of the podcast. You're more proud of your business. Ah, the business it's easy. The business. Um, the reason I'm proud of the business, it has nothing to do with me. It has to do with our guys. Uh, like I'm,

I'm surrounded by good people who work hard, who care about the customers who put their heart and soul behind everything that we do. And, uh, they work as a unit. Um, you know, they treat people right. They do the right thing. Uh, and, and dude, that inspires me, you know? So like, I'm way more proud of that than literally anything I could ever do on my own. Uh, I mean, is it cool? It's, is it cool to do the podcast? Yes. Um, we've done a lot of cool things like, dude, I've been a top 50 podcast in iTunes for almost three years, which is a huge deal. Cause there's like over a million podcasts. Uh, you know, we get 2.5 million downloads a month. That's, that's a lot.

Um, I've been top 10 in business for, the last at least year and a half I got ranked number one entrepreneur podcast by entrepreneur magazine Inc Forbes and Yahoo so I mean I do that's just cool right like like I you think I'd be all fuck yeah that's awesome but the truth is you know I don't I don't know like I honestly don't know why the fuck people even listen to you to be honest. Well, I'll tell you why they listen to your podcast because your podcast is, is, is fairly focused. Sometimes you just go off on a tangent or rant or whatever, but those are cool because they get you hyped up. They get you motivated, but you're, you know, I really think that people can, by listening to your podcast, I really think that people can improve their income.

I think they can improve their own personal development. You know, a lot of times, a lot of times, like on this podcast and many other podcasts, you know, I'm trying to get information out about fitness or about nutrition. It depends on who the guest is. But your podcast in particular has the same common theme. Now you might go outside a little bit and you might mention something about your diet that you're on, or you might mention some things, but it's really honed in, um, on business. But what I love about it is it's not honed in on the specifics of business only because that gets to be dry as fuck.

And that gets to be really boring. It's more the general stuff how to treat people how to build relationships all that kind of stuff i mean you're just like in fitness and this is why fitness is so cool because it literally parallels business like exactly right and if you don't have if you don't have your mind right uh if you in business a lot of people think it's x's and o's right it's like i'm gonna create this this logo and then i'm gonna create a website i'm gonna run facebook ads then i'm gonna create a funnel yeah dude you could find that information anywhere but the real important

shit is like the shit that you've got to figure out that goes on between your ears and that's where we i think we hit that no one else really hits the right way. Um, you know, it's about training the whole machine, dude. It's not just about training, you know, uh, the X's and O's of business. I mean, do we hit the X's and O's of business? Yes. We'll tell you how to do all that stuff, but you know, being able to cultivate the grit, the discipline, the, the, uh, the mentality, uh, and dealing with the stress and the anxiety and the hardship and how to, you know, do all the things that it's going to take to be successful. I think that's where we differentiate ourselves. You know, it's a,

it's a complete product. It's not, it's not like we say dry. Do we even talk about stuff like relationships and friendships and how to deal with, you know, the growth and the editing of those things. And I mean, it's, it's, uh, it's cool because, uh, the co-host of the podcast, you know, he, he's a, he's an ex pastor. So we have a really, we have a really cool dynamic where like I'm like the CEO and he's a pastor and it all kind of, you know, just goes together. It's funny. Um, we didn't even intend to have a podcast. That wasn't how it started kind of, you know, just goes together. It's funny. We didn't even intend to have a podcast.

That wasn't how it started. He was interviewing me to help me write a book. And we were videotaping it. And we were recording the audio so that he could listen to it. And I would take the clips because some of them were kind of cool. And I would put them on Instagram. This was back in, like, 2014. And every time I put one up there, be like what podcast is this and I'm like every time somebody would

write this shit I write back it's not a podcast it's an interview for a book because I thought like doing a book was really cool and I thought podcasts were stupid and and so after like literally a thousand times of me writing this, I finally clicked in my dumb brain. Hey, you know, why don't we do a podcast? And that's how it started. Like it didn't even start from, it didn't even start from like, hey, let's start a podcast. It started because people were harassing me to start one. And I was too stupid to understand what they were saying.

What do you think the biggest hurdle facing people biggest hurdle, uh, facing people is today, um, with coming up with a business, with starting a business? You know, I, I hear you oftentimes, you know, giving advice to people that are, uh, kind of just get, getting going. So what, what do you see the biggest hurdle? Dude, the, the, the biggest hurdle is within their own ears and within their own household. It's funny because I get paid a lot of money these days to go speak at events. And I run many different companies.

They're all successful. And I do Q&As. And when I do these Q&As, I don't hold anything back. I mean, these people paid for my information. So if they ask me like what I can do to do this or that and make money, I will tell them the real answer. I'm not holding it back. So they have access to all this information. And you know what I get asked more than anything? How do you deal with people that don't believe in me? How do you deal with people that say I'm not going to be able to do it? And this comes from people who are earning six figures, who are running a business

and already making money, and they're still struggling with it. And it's a mental obstacle of needing approval from people that they've cared about their whole lives. And they're afraid to go out and do things because they're afraid of what these people might say it's not that the people have said it it's what they might say yeah so you understand what i'm saying so like people imagine the situation in their head and they say all right well i want to start this business i want to go out and do this and i'm going to become a millionaire and i'm going to do this and make this impact in this business. But if I post on the internet, my aunt Connie, she might say that I'm a dumbass or they might make fun of me at Easter or they might say something to me and do that.

What stops people? It's what might happen is what stops people. And for that reason, I have a saying that I always say is that you are your own worst hater because it's not that other people are hating. You're imagining that people are hating on you and that's keeping you from action. Yeah. They say like that perception is reality. And I think you somehow talk yourself into, uh, and it's not even like, it's not what other people think of you. You are what you think other people think you are, you know, that's what you end up being the byproduct of, which sounds like crazy talk because it sounds like you're just having conversations with yourself all day long. Dude, that's exactly what's happening.

People are having conversations on the inside that are not reflective of what's truly going on in the outside. And they're deciding whether they should or shouldn't do something based on those conversations that don't really exist in real life. That's exactly what's happening. Like exactly. And you ask what holds people back. That's what holds people back. Their fear, their fear of what might happen.

You know, my man, I can talk to you all day long, but I don't want to take up, I don't want to take up your whole entire day. So, uh, appreciate having you on here today. And, uh, I, you you know what i can't wait to get out to summer smash i'm so

excited to uh to do that so excited to uh collaborate with you on some uh stuff that we have going on i'm really pumped about just everything that's going on man dude i am too man i can't wait to have you out for summer smash too. Everybody's going to, everybody's going to, uh, really love to hear you speak, man. I love to just, you know,

trying to tell jokes. Uh, yeah, I'm going to, yeah, that I'm going to work on my comedy routine up there. Uh, you better work really fucking hard on that,

bro. And, uh, I think I might work on some of my dance moves and stuff too, because I, I got a pretty nice, uh, first form red, white, and blue thong that I'm because I got a pretty nice, uh, first form red,

white, and blue thong that I'm going to be wearing on the stage. Oh, dude, that's sexy. Make sure you wear it after when we hang out. That'll, that'll have to be what we're doing.

We're going to have to, uh, get some training in, uh, again too, because that was fun last time. Yeah, for sure.

Dude, I'll try not to bitch out this time. You did great man you made it through man that's all that matters you know yeah i made it through but i've been see i've been working now though like ever since that was a wake-up call to me like because i did want to quit like i legitimately wanted to quit and i would have quit and not pull me up off the ground and said hey dude no i would quit like I was quitting and you know, you knew I was quitting. I still feel fucking embarrassed about that. I was like, I've been working on,

I was yelling at you. Yeah, bro. But you know how competitive I am. So like, like that, like that was in August of last year. I'm just still fucking thinking about it every day. You know what I mean? So I've been working, I've been working on, uh, all different kinds of mental things. So hopefully, uh, hopefully when it comes time to do some shit, I won't fucking be a punk this time. You got a, uh, a mental coach, uh, getting you ready for the Mark Smelly Bell workout, huh? That's right.

That's right. Yeah. When, uh, when we were doing that, I remember, you know, kind of seeing you falling off a little bit. We were pushing the tank and we were doing just some hideous stuff flipping the uh yeah flipping the tire and then doing the rows and your brother you know he's an asshole he's pretty good at that stuff so he was kind of cranking through it um my wife is a division former division one swimmer so she was cranking through it pretty good and then some of the other guys are kind of skinny and small so

they didn't really have that tough of a time. But when you started Come On and Glute, I started yelling at you. And I'm like, you know, when you were deadlifting, I remember I was like, that deadlift doesn't, that deadlift doesn't care what car you drive, doesn't care how much money you have, you know, that, and that's the truth of it. You know, that's what I love about fitness. And that's what I love about, you know, trying to obtain the body that you feel comfortable in is, is, uh, there is, there is nothing you can't, can't buy. Yeah. You gotta be out there fighting for it. Yeah, dude.

I, uh, I, uh, I, you know, the truth is, dude, I was 287 pounds. You know what I'm saying? Everybody else was, everybody else was under 250 under 250 i mean that's a big difference uh and i'm not making excuses but i it's going to be different this time that's a lot that's a lot of weight to be tugging around yeah so like i was definitely struggling and i was proud that i got through it but it but i but i didn't get through it on my own you know what i mean and that that kind of fucks with my head a little bit. What car are you cruising in today? Oh, it's raining here, man. So I'm driving a Dually.

I've got a big Chevy. You've seen it. I don't know if you've seen it or not. Yeah. I've seen it. I've got a big lifted Chevy Dually. So that's my ride for the day. That's my rain car.

Yeah. You kind of get into different modes on different cars. Cause you've been using that one quite a bit. Has it been kind of shitty weather lately? Yeah. But like, dude, I'm actually a truck guy like at heart.

So like, I, I love having that truck. So, I mean, I drive it, you know, I probably drive that truck 50% of the time.

And then the other times I drive, I go through little phases with the cars. So you sent me a picture of a, or a link to those new broncos those things look pretty sick yeah dude that's uh most if i lived out where you live man that's all i would drive yeah you have to have uh the top on where you're at yeah all right man have a great day catch you later dude. Yeah. All right, man. Have a great day. Catch you later, dude. All right, brother. All right, see ya. Hello?

He seems a little competitive, huh? Yeah, he's fired up. That's awesome. You gotta be fired up. I thought that was great. You know, he's a great speaker. He's somebody that, you know, can kind of just great. You know, he, he, um, he's a great speaker. He's somebody that, um, you know, can kind of just take, you know, take whatever you say and, and turn it into something big. But I really liked what he said about, you know, how he thinks that, uh, you know, people are held back, not just by what people say and think, but it's more, it's, it's also about what your perception of what people are

going to say. It's like, you're worried about like, what if? Yeah. Yeah. Uh, worrying about the unknown. I mean, you said it, I think when we were checking out the, uh, the old warehouse, uh, anyway, uh, we were, we were walking through a building, I think it was the old warehouse. And then we walked into a room that was pitch black and we're like what the hell is in there like what i don't know andrew you go find out like you go find out i don't want to yeah it's fucking black like i don't know we turn on the light and there's literally nothing in that room but five seconds prior like i remember feeling like oh shit i don't want to walk in there not because i'm afraid of ghosts or something but what if i walk and like i fall into a hole or something?

But that's kind of what you guys were just talking about. You know, you're worried about the what if, like, you know, what are they going to say? What are they going to think? That sort of thing. Yeah. you know, if there's not a lot of financial, um, there's not a lot, not a lot of finances on the line to lose, uh, then what do you have to lose? You know, because doing the same thing over and over again, kind of sucks and, and being stuck in the same spot kind of sucks. So whatever that risk is, whatever that leap is, and don't be, you know, don't be crazy about it. Don't be asinine about it.

Make sure it's at least somewhat calculated of a move. I kind of think about, you know, when I was a kid and I played Mario Brothers, you know, you would try to time that flag jump and you'd get a certain amount of points by like jumping to the top of the flag. But it was also risky because the closer you got to it and the later you jump, sometimes you fell all the way to the bottom. Yeah. Your reaction time was just a bit off. Yeah. You couldn't get, you couldn't get the point. So there's, there's a risk to everything

that you do. And then also jumping from too far away is not a good idea either. So make sure, you know, before you're going to make that leap, make sure you're like Mario and make sure you're in a good position. Uh, and you can get, you can get to the top of that flagpole. What do you think about what he was talking about? Millennials? Um, you know, he was saying that it's not that they're lazy. It's just that they're so impatient, but because of the world that's been built around them, I thought that was kind of cool.

I never really thought of it that way. Yeah. I was kind of trying to lead him into that question because, um, I I've always felt that I don't share the exact same opinion as he does on that whole thing. But, um, I agree with most of what he said. And I also think that, um, a lot, it's, it's a lot of the company's fault because a lot of these companies are new and they don't give anybody any slack and they don't give anybody any breathing room. And so if I'm new at like trying to lead people, then how the fuck am I going to be, you know, on you 24 seven about something that I just figured out 10 seconds ago.

And then also how can I, I can't come down on somebody, uh, unless I really went over, like if I went over something several times with somebody and said, Hey, like this, you know, this is the way we do things. This is the way, you know, you know, a time, one time, two times, I mean, it might get messed up. There might be right here and there. Um, hopefully over time, like you just have to understand that it's going to take time. And I think a lot of people that own businesses don't understand that they don't give, they don't give anybody any time uh they might just immediately fucking can somebody because they're late like oh you're late and it's like i don't know like what you know maybe that person has other values that you that you

like and that you want to keep and maybe they have other things that they can do um there's people everyone everyone's got strengths and everyone's got weaknesses. So you're going to have to figure out ways of doing the best for them. The other thing I look at too is when you look at like teams, you look like a football team or you look at a football team is a great example. I mean, they're out there in the heat fucking killing themselves. They're out there in the heat fucking killing themselves. And then they're out there again in the cold killing themselves, you know, during the football season. But meanwhile, the teacher will be like, I can't get through to any of these guys.

These football players, their grades suck. Like none of them are going to be eligible. And it's definitely the responsibility of the student athlete to, I can get better grades and to pay attention. But at the same time, is that teacher standing on top of their desk, yelling at these kids? Is that teacher investing a lot of time in the relationship and the way that they treat each other? Is that teacher joking with the student? Is that teacher, just the way a football player would, a football coach, I'm sorry, a football coach is going to be like over the top, fucking crazy, animated, yelling, screaming. And you're going to be like, all right, well, coach, you know, he flies off the handle,

but at least he fucking cares. Yeah. And there's your history teacher, your science teacher, whatever teacher it is, where they're just up there, you know, pointing at the fucking chalkboard or whatever. And you're just like, I just don't even want to pay attention to this because they're not into it. So why the fuck would I be into it? Right. Or like a coach that will yell and scream at, you know, one player and then they respond right away. And they do it to another player and they're just like, dude, fuck you.

Like, you know, they'll figure out which ways they learn better. Whereas the, you know, the history teacher just has his or her curriculum. And there's like, here, learn this, study that. Yeah. Take the test on Friday. It's an unfortunate thing. A lot of teachers don't have the ability and sometimes just don't have the time to really mentor you. I mean, they are going through a lot of people, but, you you know, football coach doesn't always have that much time with you either.

Right. So they have a way. I mean, just really think about that. They got a way of getting through somehow. And, and maybe it's, uh, because the football, maybe it's because football was a choice, you know, and maybe school you're fucking just stuck. Um, but think about back to when you were a student, you know, and I think back to when I was. Um, but think about back to when you were a student, you know, and I think back to when I was a student, I had some teachers that were great. Yeah. They figured out a way, they figured out a way for me to remember shit. Yeah. You know,

they figured out a way to, uh, to connect. And I think, um, that's really what's missing from a lot of things. You know, he was talking about the things that hold people back. And I think some of the, part of the reason why these things hold people back is because people don't have leaders. They don't have mentors that are pointing them in the right direction. They don't know where to go. Yeah. And so they pop around on YouTube and they pop around on Instagram and they

pop around on some different things and maybe they're following people that just don't have that much to say. Yeah. Um, I thought it was also a lot of junk out. There's a lot of just bullshit out there. say. Yeah. I thought it was awesome. There's a lot of junk out. There's a lot of just bullshit out there. Yeah.

Yeah. Because, I mean, one of the shortcuts that I took was just, like, getting a decent mentor when it came to photography. Like, I easily cut off, you know, a handful of years off of my training just by following somebody who knew what the hell they were talking about. Yeah. But also I thought when Andy was talking about like, there's bodybuilders that can be so disciplined about everything they do in the gym, everything they eat, but their bank account is like, you know, they're in the negative or whatever. Yeah.

That was pretty cool too. Because, you know, you do have to have that balance. That's part of how our conversation started today. And that's part of why I wanted to have him on the podcast. I didn't put him under fire that bad for it, but he it but he he he taught he talked his way around it pretty good by basically just saying like he doesn't have the capacity to be fucking full blast at everything all the time right um because it's like you know if you if you're a stud in these areas why do you ever allow yourself to get to 350 pounds right Right. Yeah. His arms are pretty big right there though.

Yeah. No, he's, he's fucking jacked. Yeah. He's jacked. Um, but he, but he answered the question. He, he said that he has a tendency, you know, to get derailed by certain foods. He has a tendency to get derailed by, uh, drinking, you know, and, and things like that. And, uh, yeah, I mean, there's no one's, no one's, uh, no one's perfect.

And, uh, you know, the more, the more like intact somebody looks and appears probably the more fucked up they're, they really are. The cool thing is that he's a genuine guy. You know, he's the way that you see him on his podcast. When I went out and met him and talked to him and stuff is the way he just, he just kind of always is that way. That's cool's always fired up he's always animated yeah when are you heading out there uh i think it's like mid-june okay yeah i think it's the middle middle of june uh going out there to the first form summer smash thing it's kind of like i think it started as kind

of an employees type thing and then they just turned it into this like giant party and there'll be like, I don't know, a thousand people there or something crazy. So you'll have plenty of time to run hills and all that good stuff. Yeah, it'll be terrible. I went for a run today. I was going to ask, how'd it go? It went pretty good. I didn't have, I didn't plan it out to have enough time to get over to like where the hill part was. So I, because I just didn't know, I didn't know what any of it was going to look like,

but now I know what it looks like. And, um, it's actually pretty cool. Cause you got to run fairly far just to get to the mountainy part of it. To get to the hard part. Yeah. To get to the hard part. So that would actually be, um, that would actually be a really good run for me. I can't, you know, I don't run very well, you know, I kind of suck at it.

And so, uh, today I probably ran for about 20, 25 minutes, just straight. Um, not fast. A couple of times I picked up the pace a little bit here and there, especially when I saw a snake. Oh God. Fucking saw a snake just laying across the whole path, just baking in the sun. And, uh, it was huge. I i was like what the fuck and i don't i don't know anything about snakes so i'm like i don't know what that is but yeah it just looks like bad news i'm going the other way did you treat the uh the run like you would a normal

workout like did you eat before did you kind of prep for it or you just said all right i'm taking off yeah i thought about it yesterday actually there you there you go. That's, that's the way I, I like to do stuff. So I, uh, you know, thought about my food consumption towards the end of the day yesterday to make sure I had enough. Cause I don't, I don't want anything like negative to deter me from these runs. So I want to just, um, I'm not going to run too far. I'm not going to run too hard. I'm not going to eat right before. I'm not going to run too far. I'm not going to run too hard. I'm not going to eat right before. Um, I'm not going to allow myself to be dehydrated. Like I'm, I just won't run if this chips are stacked against me because I don't want to run and be like, see, I told you, you know, like you're to myself. I don't want to say that to myself. Like, you know, um, hey, kind of, I told you so to myself about the way I feel about running. And so like about pushing it too far. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Cause I don't, I don't want to, you know, have my ankle twisted or shin splints or some sort of injury. Like when I ran today, my shins kind of got pumped up a little bit. So I stopped and I walked and I was keep, I'll just keep a good walking pace. Yeah.

It went away. I ran again. You know, I'm just trying to keep it really, really simple because my running background is, is none. I thought it was pretty funny when I told Cameron Haynes, I was like, I have never ever in my life gone for a run. He's like, what? Yeah. Like I've never once ever just like went out and ran for a mile or two, except for maybe when I was like a teenager, when I was boxing, my coach wanted me to run a little bit. So I, I did a little bit then, but that was about it. Yeah.

Meanwhile, he's like, I can't live without running. And then, yeah, I actually never ran. I can understand it for, to a certain extent. I don't know who knows, you know, maybe I'll just run for like two weeks and then not do it. I don't know. an extent i don't know who knows you know maybe i'll just run for like two weeks and then not do it i don't know um but i can understand it because like when i was on my way to go do it i was like yeah you know i was kind of looking forward to it it's pretty cool that's cool i think it's great to set the bar where you have set it right now like you're not trying to push too far you don't

want to make that excuse and i mean i'm pretty good at making up excuses but yesterday when we were doing the assault bike or whatever it's called, we went through one round and your brother was like, oh, I can't do it no more. Like I got serious heart problems. You know, he was on the floor and it was really hard. But I just remember like that got into my head. Yeah. And like, oh, fuck, maybe I shouldn't be doing this. Because then all of a sudden my quads were on fire and they couldn't recover.

But I was like, nah, I'll be fine. Like I'll figure it out. Well, the key is just to make it through. Yeah. And, and what did it, you know, what did yesterday look like? And what did the week before look like? Maybe the week before you didn't, you didn't go on the assault bike. And so if you didn't go on the bike previous weeks, then all you have to do is beat your best. And if you don't have a best, then anything will be better than nothing. Right. So it's 100% better than nothing. So like, you know, we'll say, Hey, we're going to sprint. Well, maybe your sprint 70%. Who cares? Like it doesn't, you don't have to, uh, you know, take yourself to the absolute limit every single time you do something over a period of time. It'd be great to train yourself to that. You know, when we get those heavy bags and stuff and we say, all right, let's kick it in for 15 seconds, just go all out. All out is going to mean something different to each person.

and different to each person. Yeah. You know, you, you don't, if you have never gone all out before, then you shouldn't want to go all out. You should only go, uh, whatever percentage you can offer. Um, it's just like pacing yourself, you know, uh, if, if we were to do a 135 pound deadlift in

between, uh, doing four other exercises, um, and you said, just go like hell for 30 seconds. Well, I would, it would depend on how many rounds we're going to go through on that. We went through one round, then I might do 40 reps in 30 seconds. If we went through five rounds, I might do 15 reps per every 30, you know? So it's like, it really makes a difference. Like what's next? Um, because, you know,

remember we end up with that question and then what, you know, we end up with that question and then what, like, where are you going to take this to from here? Yeah. Um, today's a bench press day.

If I go in there and, uh, you know, try to bench 500 pounds. Well, where, where can I do next week? I,

you can't, uh, you can't do stuff that's not there yet. You can't, um, it doesn't make any sense to max out every time you do what you can do. You do the best with, with it each time and you try to do better plain and simple. You just try to do better. And that's, you know, can be a big motivating factor for a lot of people just trying to do better all the time. Are you, uh, consulting with anybody or taking any, um, advice from any, any coaches or anybody, you know, in regards to running? Uh, just cause we, we do have a question about sprinting, but we're not necessarily experts on telling this guy when he should be sprinting. So I was just curious if there's anybody i i know you know quite a bit about uh about running just

because it parallels lifting quite a bit the the the rest protocols and a lot of the things a lot of stuff comes from running really not just olympic lifting um but uh no i i'm not really i i'm just i'm nowhere with it so yeah i was like yeah i'll just you know i'm just, I'm nowhere with it. So I was like, yeah, I'll just, you know, I'm just starting, you know? Yeah. Cool. What's your, what's this guy want to do? So he just, he said he's going to start sprinting a hundred meters and he wants to know how often he should be doing it. So it's very basic and open question.

Right. But I just, I was just wondering if you were following anybody right now in regards to uh like trying to plan out your your runs right now yeah i would say i mean you have to just kind of understand that that sprinting is is really uh it's a high level skill that requires a lot of your central nervous system um an all-out sprint um, there's, there's six and seven times and sometimes even more, uh, times your body weight multiplied on, on itself, uh, for every fucking step that you take. And so, um, you have to, you have to just understand that you have to understand that if you go out and sprint a hundred percent today, it's going to take you a while to recover from it.

Your power output's not going to be as good. And it's going to take you a while to recover from it. Your power output's not going to be as good. And it's hard to, it's hard to train and to make progress if you, um, if your power output is worse each training session, or even just impeded at all. So I would say like, if you, you know, if you're trying to run, if you're trying to get some good times you can only do that like once a week um but uh typically from what i've seen is most runners don't even bother to ever really run a hundred percent they do a lot of stuff at around 80 they do a lot of stuff around 70 70 and they work a lot on their form and technique and when you consider that then you can start to run more often and you can start to run, you know, two, three times a week specifically, uh, with, uh, like a hundred meter protocol, a hundred meters tough. I, you know, it does, it's a lot further than you fucking think, you know, it's, it's literally like a 10 or however long it takes you, uh, to finish it 10

to 12 second, 15 second, however long it takes this person to finish their sprint. So they'll have to be cautious of that. And then how many times they run per every time they go is pretty brutal. But if it's just mainly for aesthetics, just trying to like look better, you can go run five sprints twice a week and rest as much as you want in between. And the sprint should be on a level of, you know, one to 10 should be like at like an eight and you'll have really good, uh, fat burning results from that. Cool. What's your workout looking like today?

Uh, I don't really know. I'm not really sure. I'm going to go in there and do some benching and probably some slingshot. I've been rocking a slingshot a lot. I feel pretty good raw, but I want to keep it that way. So I've been messing around with some slanging. So probably what's the first thing you're doing today? Smoke, smoke? Two sets of five. Two sets of five. Maybe I'll do Two sets of five. Two sets of five. Maybe I'll do two sets of five. There you go. It'd be good if I can do a couple sets of five with anything over like 400 pounds.

I don't know. I haven't really benched that much in the last few weeks either, so I don't know what's going to happen. Yeah, if there's anybody listening who's interested in a slingshot, we're actually running a promo code. We'll get you 15% off all slingshots. Yeah. At checkout, enter promo code POWERPROJECT. Don't do that. Yeah.

It'll get you 15% off of any slingshot that we sell at markbellsslingshot.com. You're saying 50% off? 15. Oh. One five. Yeah, don't do that either. Okay. He's lied.

It's 3% off. That's what you're getting. Three times five. Wait, what't do that either. Okay. He's lied. It's 3% off. There you go. Three times five. Wait, what? Give or take. Yeah. 15% off.

Who made this rule? Is this some smoky? Yeah. The guy next to me. Yeah. All right, guys, that's all the time we got for today.

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