Mark Bell's Power Project - Prep + Opportunity = The Power Project, How We Created Our Own Luck & How You Can Too || MBPP Ep 809

Episode Date: September 27, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Power Project family, how's it going? Now, we partnered with an amazing brand, Bubz Naturals. We actually have some of the products on the table. They're MCT oil powder, they're collagen protein, and this f***er. Yeah, this f***er. They're apple cider vinegar gummies, okay? One thing I want to let you guys know real quick
Starting point is 00:00:16 is that the Bubz products, number one, they mix super well. So I've had different MCT oils, and I've talked to people who've used MCT oil and mentioned it to the copy, and it doesn't mix well. So I've had different MCT oils and I've talked to people who've used MCT oil and mentioned to the copy and it doesn't mix well. Well, their MCT oil is amazing on coffee in the morning, just on its own, but their collagen protein and collagen is great for joint health, hair, skin, nails, all that stuff that also mixes just so well into coffee and everything. It's, that's the, one of the crazy things. things. But secondly, these frickin apple cider vinegar gummies.
Starting point is 00:00:47 I don't ever supplement apple cider vinegar, but they put them in gummies, which is great. Two per serving. We have literally eaten one of these full things. Andrew and I have split this. And Mark, Mark has to be so careful. Like we give him two and we take it away because it tastes so good. That's actually really good for you. So, Andrew, tell them how to get it.
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Starting point is 00:01:36 Links to them down in the description as well as the podcast show notes. My shirt's actually green. Oh, okay. That is a gray shirt. It's actually mint. Turquoise, I'd call it. That is a gray shirt. It's actually mint. Turquoise, I'd call it. That's a gray shirt and your pants are blue. All men just don't see color.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Those pants are legit blue, by the way. There's no way they're not blue. They're gray. You guys can all. No, they're gray. They're heather gray. They're not heather gray, but they're like light gray. Are they made that tight for everybody?
Starting point is 00:02:02 Is that just your look? Well, I look the same if I buy those. Can you see my foot? That's what people ask a lot. They're like, what's in SEMA? There it is right there. I'm like, it's not going to matter if you try to dress like in SEMA.
Starting point is 00:02:15 It just ain't going to work. Stretch. Oh, oh. Stretchy pants. That hip. I feel like I'm at the mobility watch seminar from back in the day Sturette was wearing those tight pants and stretching all over the place. Man, Sturette's great because he just goes into different positions on people and shit. And sometimes I'm like, ooh, wait, what?
Starting point is 00:02:34 He moves pretty crazy. He does. He moves like Jim Carrey. Kind of, yeah. He's great at that. Contortionist. Uh-huh. It's very impressive.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Andrew. I'm looking for it. You were mentioning some interesting stuff about Moana. Oh, you want to go there? Yeah, I want to go there. Yeah, I want to go there early. I think that's great. How did I?
Starting point is 00:02:56 I mean, I know what you were talking about. I'm trying to remember how I came across. Oh, okay. So I'm, okay, full disclosure or whatever you want to say i'm a fucking i'm an idiot i don't know anything outside of west sacramento to elk grove in sacramento that's like as far as my like uh what's it called geography goes necessarily true because you gave me great advice that i still use and i use it almost every day when I have to take a shit. If I have to run, I keep the knees bent.
Starting point is 00:03:30 So you know about keeping the knees bent when you have to take a shit so you don't shit yourself. That is very true. So if you guys do have to shit, don't lock your knees. That's the best thing anyone's ever going to take from this show. Honestly. It really is. Yeah. Like it's been really helpful.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Not just to me, but those around me as well. Just running like this. Yeah. You got to have a soft knee. Soft knee. Kind of an athletic knee. But I don't know what it is. Maybe it's because I do have like tight hammies.
Starting point is 00:03:52 But like if I lock those out, it like pulls on more than just like it's not just like, oh, I'm trying to keep the water cup from spilling over. It's not that. It's more like it pulls on something and you're getting locked up. See, like if you kind of squeeze that butthole, right, and you tighten up the butt cheeks, like that is the best way to like really vice everything in there and keep it secure, but you can't run this way. It's too stiff and you're going to heel strike and then the heel strike is going to go upward
Starting point is 00:04:20 and when that energy goes upward, something's going to come splatting out of there. So the clenching of... yeah something's going to come splatting out so the the clenching of your luck's gonna run out clenching clenching the butt cheek is just trying to put like a like a cap over the valve okay like sure it's gonna work but it's you're gonna get spillage so you got to turn that valve off so that's what staying loose and just holding it in especially if you're a squirter don't don't squeeze the butt cheeks i've been getting emails about squirting lately i don't know what happened what type of squirting we talking about it's like i don't know something about a squirting school but i absolutely obviously i didn't click on it
Starting point is 00:04:54 it's like everyone can squirt and i'm like what the fuck is this like your subscription that's just like a test from the fbi they're like, let's send him this shit, see if he opens it. I thought it was from my wife. I hope not. Who signed me up for this newsletter? And it's like, hey. Yeah. Anyway, we were talking about Moana.
Starting point is 00:05:15 What I was saying is geographically, I don't know where shit is, and I don't understand why things are the way they are. So my son's been watching Moana. He likes, again again any female character or female in real life that has dark hair and kind of thick um so he's been watching moana non-stop and i'm like oh that's probably why he's glazed over that he likes dark hair thick females how old are you how old's your boy he's one and a half he already has his taste good keep on we were at black bear and like the server was
Starting point is 00:05:46 like some blonde or whatever and he was just was all pissed off and grumpy but the time before that um i don't i don't know what she was like because she looked like she was like mixed or something but she had black hair yeah and like dark skin and she like had but had like real pretty eyes so she was a mix of something and he was just like hey like the whole time smiling at her but this other time was like nope i don't want anything to do with you bring back the other chick oh my god that's okay so i'm like i'm like okay she sounds like moana she just sounds like regular and then like as far as like a american accent i'll say the other characters some are pretty hard like almost sound like hawaiian or whatever or i believe the proper term again i don't know what the fuck i'm talking about is polynesian yeah but her dad has like a bit of a british accent and i couldn't figure out like why is why is that so i looked
Starting point is 00:06:34 it up and i can't colonizers yeah and i couldn't again i don't know shit about anything but the reason why we bring this up because insima was talking about something else which he'll go and this will all make a lot of sense but when i was trying to figure this out people were very very upset at lilo and stitch because of the way like they drew their noses and then so as i mean it's family whoa that was good yeah and then so like as i'm looking at this moana shit people are upset the same thing because the rocks character maui you know has a big you know wide nose also so does the rock well again so polynesian whatever you want to call it but like you were talking about the new uh what's it called little little mermaid so people are mad at that now too yeah dog it's not it's interesting that they're getting mad at the noses that's something
Starting point is 00:07:20 i've never heard before i wonder who's getting mad. It's honestly. It's probably just random white people that have nothing better to do, right? Yeah. That's who started Latinx. Like, we gotta make this fair. It's probably, honestly, it's probably a white girl on TikTok. They like to get mad about shit. That doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Number one. Black people are probably like, I didn't even know. I never even thought about it. I never thought about the fucking mermaid. Or Polynesian people probably never thought about like the, that the, the nose thing, because guess what?
Starting point is 00:07:48 They have different types of noses. Like culturally, each culture has a different type of look. My nose is pretty fucking big. You know, there's, there's a whole thing back in the day with like people making fun of black people because they have bigger noses,
Starting point is 00:08:00 but genetically and culturally you will notice wider noses with bigger nostrils on black people. It's just, it's a, it's, it's a feature. bigger noses but genetically and culturally you will notice wider noses with bigger nostrils on black people it's just it's a it's it's a feature remember we had the oxygen advantage guy and he's like i'm white and my nose is really tiny he's like i can't breathe for shit for nasal breathing i remember that shit that shit was that was funny but he'll he gave props to ncm hey as long as okay you know the only time it could get bad is if you're just like haha those black people and their big noses see we have a problem if you go down that road i'm not saying that yeah good if you do that there's a problem but if you just assess you're
Starting point is 00:08:40 like oh yeah bigger nose big butt too seems to be a trait um but yeah i was kind of laughing because the little mermaid has been in the cartoon the disney cartoon she was a redhead girl she's a white redhead girl and um when they recasted ariel as a black actress uh there's two sides there's one side that is uh pissed because they're like, they recast Ariel as black. She was originally white. And the other side is like, well, she's a mermaid. Mermaids don't necessarily have culture, right? It's like Santa Claus isn't real.
Starting point is 00:09:17 We're just going to make him white. We don't know what Jesus looks like. We're just going to make him white. It's not a big deal. Don't worry about it. We got it. We're just going to make everybody white. this looks like we're just gonna make them white it's not a big deal don't worry about it we got it we're just gonna make everybody white the jesus thing is funny because that guy was he was dark
Starting point is 00:09:30 i know they had uh burt kreischer and uh tom segura were talking about it and they brought it brought it up on the show did you see that i saw that i saw that we gotta see if we can find that clip it was hilarious you're just like oh my god it was funny but but okay but there's there's another side i saw this video on tiktok from uh like a redhead creator and he was like i think no actually she was like talking about how well you know as far as all the disney princesses are concerned uh she's the only redhead we had you know what i mean and and the redhead kids uh gingers i don't know if we can call them that though but gingers um they related to ariel and now she's taken away but you know this is the thing i think i think like disney just did a reskin bro like that's the thing
Starting point is 00:10:20 they really just did a reskin because the only black Disney movie that we really have is Princess and the Frog. And Tiana was 90%. She was a frog for 90% of the movie. Movie was shit. She was a frog for 90% of the movie. And she was a person for like 10%. So my daughter was really, really upset because I've never seen it. So they put it on the other day.
Starting point is 00:10:40 And I'm just like, oh, this seems pretty dope. But I didn't. I mean, we didn't watch the whole thing. But I did not think about the fact that she was a frog for 90% of the movie. Oh, yeah. Some of the cartoon movies are really fucking good. And super emotional.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Yeah. I found myself weeping more than once, especially like Shrek and shit like that. Never seen it, but yeah. Oh, Shrek's good. I've never seen Fiona's red hair. You don't know Fiona. Well, I know she's the Cameron Diaz, right?
Starting point is 00:11:07 Yeah. Is she Cameron Diaz? I thought so. Have you seen Toy Story 3? I don't think I have seen Toy Story 3. I don't know. My son doesn't like going past two for some reason. Oh, God, guys.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Well, for all the listeners, if you've ever seen- Toy Story's epic. It is. You have to see Toy Story 3 if you haven't. But for all the people listening, if you've watched Toy story 3d if you'll remember the scene with the lava now i won't break you know i won't spoil it for either of you guys that wasn't the fourth one was it wait do you remember a scene with lava in the fourth when they're when they're all holding hands and they're just like hey this is it wait how many toy stories were there 18 i don't know there's at least four
Starting point is 00:11:41 okay if there were four then it was three okay Because I remember the fourth one is when he goes out and he's with this totally different toy. Forky, right? Forky. Yeah, that's three. That's no. No. Forky's four.
Starting point is 00:11:56 God damn it. Forky's four, bro. People are so pissed off at us right now. People are mad. But, okay. The Toy Story thing. Let's rewind real quick to the reskin of Ariel to black. There's four.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Four Toy Stories. Yes, it was three. Lava Pit was three because I remember that. Now, yeah. Was it Lava Pit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when they're holding. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, but that's when they're holding hands and they all think they're going to die, right?
Starting point is 00:12:19 Yes. And then they're just like, fuck it, this is it. Why are you spoiling it? Well, I mean, no, you have to tell. Okay, Mark, just don't remember that. No, it in 2010 yes too late like they could watch it by now you could still yeah yeah well you should watch i don't remember the whole thing but i just remember that part okay it was very sad it's emotional i remember crying during that that's why that's why i brought that part because i cried i was like shedding tears because the toys are going away
Starting point is 00:12:42 um but okay it's lazy back to disney disney's being lazy they're gonna be able to get away with this shit in the future what they're gonna do and they do this with cast and shows already andrew you and i have talked about this where shows are like okay who are we gonna cast we have a lead he's or she's white. Okay. We got the black guy. Let's make him gay. Right. So he's, he's gay.
Starting point is 00:13:11 So we're covering both things. Yeah. Yeah. We have an Asian girl. Let's make her buy. It's like, let's, let's try to,
Starting point is 00:13:17 you know, let's, let's, let's make this all. And they won't make new stories. That's the thing that's fucking annoying. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 00:13:22 no one was pissed about black Panther, but with this shit, they just gonna keep they won't make new stories for different cultures what do you mean no one was pissed at black panther it was all it was an original story oh black panther was an original story oh so good ariel is a reskin she's just like black y'all happy all right let's go so it's just it's lazy man yeah people are mad at an imaginary character getting a new skin i mean it's good i was talking to a friend about this it's great for the it's great for kids because the main consumers of this are going to be kids so young black girls that watch this they'll be able to see themselves in a character which is nice it's great for kids but like it's just it's just lazy like. Like can't you just make a new story?
Starting point is 00:14:06 Yeah, you're just seeing it kind of everywhere, right? You are, yeah. You're seeing just people, just businesses more and more and more and more commercials. You know, you're seeing like more – there's a lot of diversity in commercial. I saw a commercial the other day and it had this very, very heavy guy in a wheelchair with like a cane. And he was talking about how he uses this medication. And I was just like, years ago, you wouldn't see anything like that. But those are the consumers.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Those are the people that are probably purchasing or interested in the diabetic medication that that guy was utilizing. So I think that they're trying to, A, they're trying to maybe be more real with like the particular consumer that they're actually speaking to. Because years ago, everyone was like on TV, they were what our idea of perfect was, which there is no perfect, right? But it was white and it was somebody really thin and it was very particular. And if you go way back in TV history, people even spoke a very particular way. It was real buttoned up.
Starting point is 00:15:22 They didn't even sound like anybody in America, much less represent anyone all that well, I don't think. There were also character archetypes so like if you ever go like there's a always a meme with old horror movies where the black person always died first because that was legit a thing the black person would always die first um and or when you go back to like traditional t old tv media um gotta get like west craven or something why but like You sick bastard. Yeah. Like the black guy was usually a criminal or a gangster or some shit like that. That's usually the depiction. So, I mean, society is changing.
Starting point is 00:15:52 There are more people in America. So, like, it's good to get more types of people on screen. That is beneficial. But companies are just being lazy about how they do it. They're like, let's – I forgot. There's someone I heard. Companies are just being lazy about how they do it. They're like, let's – I forgot.
Starting point is 00:16:04 There's someone I heard. There was a term that they put it, but it's like just stacking everything you can into one character. They're like, oh, Popeye was pretty popular. Let's make him black. Oh, God. Dog, if they did that shit, that would be a bad move. Don't take Popeye away from you. I can't find it. Somebody had posted, I think it was today, about some dude in a
Starting point is 00:16:25 wheelchair. So he's sleeping with a girl. He gets up and then her boyfriend comes in and he's just like sorry and she's like fuck. And then the caption was like would you like it if somebody took your place?
Starting point is 00:16:42 Don't park in a handicapped parking space. But it was so hardcore because it was like, you took his, like, this is not the same, but it was just so funny because it was like so hardcore. I was just like, what's happening here? And that was, I don't know, it just caught me way off guard. Those are great analogies.
Starting point is 00:17:00 I always shit in the handicapped stall, sorry. But it's so roomy in there. You have a choice. No. Yeah. I always shit in the handicap stall. Sorry. But it's so roomy in there. It is? You have a choice. No. Yeah. I mean, Andrew, you do the same shit, right? Of course.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Yeah. I don't in there. I always take the handicap stall. Thanks to Mark, I don't want to give a secret, but there's a cool bathroom in the airports that are usually way roomier and quiet and nice and clean. Oh, yeah. I don't want to blow it up because i blow it up there kind of already blown it up no the amount like the people are gonna you guys travel with
Starting point is 00:17:30 baby wipes yes all the time i have in my trunk i have my jujitsu bag yeah i get like worried that i'm gonna run out i always buy more and i have so many baby wipes like everywhere yeah it's good my wife's like you have like thousands of baby wipes she's like i think you're okay no like but what if i'm not dog it's like i think you're okay i was like but what if i'm not dog it's so necessary it's so necessary especially since like sometimes i squirt from back there you know you need to be clean you know i really might have a good issue i really might have a good issue going on back there all right let me see if i get some audio up in here oh this was good
Starting point is 00:18:06 this was good burt kreischer is fucking hilarious bro he's so talented i love how i love how both those guys they just when they talk they're just like they're talking as if they're schmoes you know they're just talking as if they've never done anything and it's like oh my god you guys are so fucking good at what you like i mean the arenas they sell out and shit it's fucking wild yeah look and see me you made it on the show oh hey let's check this out which one right there the one with instead dead center dead center right that one read uh can you read that i hear people say it's easier for you because you're rich, and it's easier for you because you're ripped.
Starting point is 00:18:48 It's easier for you because you're on steroids. And they are right. Be rich. Be less fat. Be ripped. Be on steroids. If you think something I have or something someone else has would make your life better or easier, go and earn it or go get it.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Race to zero followers. Hashtag race to zero. hashtag race to zero go back to the thing go back to his picture hit the picture hit the tag who did he tag in that picture oh wait oh it's a bunch of people i thought it was just me yeah and i was like he just tagged me oh yeah and then i signed up to go do steroids i signed up to go do steroids. I signed up to go do steroids. That's awesome. I signed up for steroids. That is dope.
Starting point is 00:19:29 That's my favorite part of that clip. I signed up for steroids. Yeah, that was cool there. He was asking like who inspires him and who has him fired up and stuff. And for fitness, he said me. So that was pretty cool. Very cool. Along with his trainer, obviously.
Starting point is 00:19:42 He has a personal trainer that he goes around with. But, yeah, it's cool to be able to help people out. You know, to be able to help people out. I think when we've had people come here, it doesn't matter who they are. It could be someone like Bedros Koulian who we all hold in high regard. And he's doing great and he's in great shape himself. But it's flattering, you you know when someone's like enthema bro like tell me what's going on tell me what you're doing tell me how you're lifting tell
Starting point is 00:20:10 me you know we've had and it's just as cool when it comes from someone in the fitness community but sometimes uh you start to recognize how powerful it is the information that we have, the things that we've learned about lifting and about nutrition, um, for me running jujitsu, it's, it's really amazing. And you have these high level people that you would think, I got nothing to say to this guy. Like, fuck, hopefully no one finds out that like, I have nothing to add to this conversation, but then, you know, if they bring up anything workout wise or fitness wise, you're like, oh, that's my shit. I can jump in on this conversation. Absolutely. The dope thing is, number one, we're developing different capacities.
Starting point is 00:20:56 But being fit and being healthy literally will help with anything that you're trying to do. Anything that you're trying to get better at, whether you're a comedian. Make money. Whether you're trying to make money. Whatever the fuck you're trying to do, it's going to be amplified if you become a healthier individual. If your body can work better. If your body can work better, your mind probably is going to be a little bit sharper. Everything is amplified.
Starting point is 00:21:20 So it's like I said it before and it's really cringy. But when people do say that whole idea of health being wealth like and the amount of people that have come on the show that have had transformations but they are already great in business we've asked you know what is the you know what's the thing that's made been the biggest mover for you right it's like getting getting my health in check you know becoming fitter that's been the thing that that's been the biggest mover for them despite having a lot of money the health is the thing it just doesn't take much right mark because like when when bedros was on and you asked him like what's harder to make a million dollars
Starting point is 00:21:55 or be like you know zero uh one percent or single digit body fat percentage one percent you'd be dead right unless uh what was uh ron colman there you go negative three percent but um you know so when we think of it like we are in the fitness space you know we think like ripped bodybuilders that are going crazy on stage uh but it doesn't have to be that right you're talking like what a loss in how much percent of weight like overall like makes such a huge difference oh shit like fuck man uh obviously. Uh, obviously, you know, for people that are bigger, it would be a larger amount of weight, you know, but like, you know, 5%, 10%. Yeah. For a lot of people, man, like if, if it's a dude and a guy weighs, you know, 250,
Starting point is 00:22:36 if he could, uh, come down to like 240, 225, you know, or 230, somewhere in that range, like that's such a, you're going to have such a massive improvement. A lot of your markers for health supposedly improve. I think it's something like 90% of the health markers start to improve. When you're looking at like things like blood pressure and glucose and insulin and those kinds of things, just by losing about 10% of your body weight. So for someone that weighs 250, it'd be like, what, 25 pounds? Like, it's like reasonable. And it's like 25 pounds, like we know that that's not really that easy necessarily, but
Starting point is 00:23:14 anybody listening that has a good amount of extra body fat on them knows that it's pretty easy to part ways with five to 10 pounds and had probably done it before so it's like you just have to do that like twice you know lose 10 pounds twice and you're you're fucking right there and then look at some of the people that we've been able to have on the show recently you know there's a theme that we've been talking about as far as aging is concerned but you know there's all these people within the anti-aging space that talk about these hacks bio hacks all that shit, right? And that's cool and all.
Starting point is 00:23:46 But look at Olongolani. Look at Mike O'Hearn. Whatever you think about him, he's 53, but his skin is flawless. Hope you guys finally get on the skin routine after that episode. Mona, his wife. Look at you. Look at you now versus a few years ago with all the things you're doing. You're aging really fucking well.
Starting point is 00:24:04 now versus a few years ago with all the things you're doing like you're aging really fucking well there's so many people we know that that are in their 50s and their 60s right but if since they've been able to keep the health thing in check they're able to do all the things that they enjoy doing for a longer amount of time like some people think that their life is literally go on the decline when they hit 40 or 50 but if you keep healthy you have an upward trajectory of a bunch of things that you can continue to do at a very high level you don't have to retire at a certain point you don't have to feel old it's like really simple with habits yeah and one of the like biggest like takeaways i've taken recently from the podcast i'm super grateful is like the whole mindset thing you know know, especially with like a low desk. Did I do it right? Yeah. Just fucking copy that and just
Starting point is 00:24:50 paste it nonstop. Um, you know, but like, I don't want to use the word retire. Like I don't even want to put that in my vocabulary. I was at my nephew's birthday party this weekend, just hanging out with my son on the floor. And you know, my aunts and uncles were like on the couch and they're just like, Oh, this is like the old section like we're all you know kind of run down now and i'm just in the back of my head i'm just like man what if you'd never thought that though like what if you never knew that that was going to happen so like that's something i'm definitely going to implement for myself my wife my son my daughter because it's like we don't have to just because everyone else says we have to you got up and you like run down compared to who? Yeah. Who do you want me to battle right now?
Starting point is 00:25:26 Who do you want me to fucking sprint against, right? Yeah. I mean, fuck, man. Why can't you feel at least a little similar to the way that you felt when you were in high school? And Seema and I were talking a little earlier and we were just talking about how, like having no inhibition
Starting point is 00:25:41 with the kind of energy output that you're able to have. Because most of the time, I don't even know if we think about it consciously, but it's really locked in there. Like, I don't want to do that because that's too much. That's going to cost me way too much energy. I'm just going to use the elevator. I'm not going to carry that many groceries. The decisions happen.
Starting point is 00:26:03 They're all day long. And they, for one person, it might be like, I'm not going to get down on the ground with everybody else right now because I might not get back up or it might be really hard for me to get back up. I'm not going to, like somebody might not even think about it, but they're just like, I'm not going to go for a walk because I'm conserving energy by sitting here. But a lot of times people are just they're kind of in more pain than they recognize. And we had Dre come in the other day
Starting point is 00:26:32 and he was showing me like a bunch of kettlebell stuff and I was showing him some stuff for his hamstring and things like that. And I told him when we were messaging back and forth on Instagram, I was just like, he's like oh i feel you know i feel pretty good and like things are going good and i was like you're you're more fucked up than you know because if you're not if you're not doing the hygiene part of it if you're not glossing over these things now he's tremendously healthy guy fucking looks incredible right yeah but we're all susceptible to get banged up here and there and he's got something going on with his hammy so i was like let me show you a of things that you can do to like, you know, help get this out of there.
Starting point is 00:27:09 And then I messaged him earlier today. I was like, I hope you continue to work on that because once that's not there anymore, you'll be able to go well above and beyond what you were already doing, which is already fucking crazy performance so i think in this country like most people are only concerned when they all of a sudden don't feel well but they don't understand what it might be like like i don't even know if i know what it's like just yet they they don't know what it's like to feel fucking incredible i feel that way right now, but can I still feel better? Can I still have less inhibition? If you guys were like, Hey, Mark, jump on the fucking table. Like, I'm not going to even try to jump on this table now. Cause I know it's not there for me. I haven't practiced like jumping in a long time. I gotta, I'd have to work on it. But maybe instead
Starting point is 00:28:00 of jumping on this table, I'd be like, fuck it, I'll jump on Andrew's table without thinking about it. You know what I mean? So it's like if we can knock down some of these barriers of inhibition that are really locked into our body from the way that we neglected. Most of what you can point your finger at is not necessarily just poor dietary choices, but just neglect. Because what's the difference between the young and the old? The young, they kept moving. They keep moving. And even in our society today
Starting point is 00:28:28 where kids are moving a little bit less, they still move a lot. And you watch your nephew and some of the kids in your family and you're like, fuck man, that little bastard's pretty quick. That little guy's pretty, but they practice it all the time.
Starting point is 00:28:39 They get up from watching TV and they zoom into the other room. They have no inhibition to the point where you're like, oh my God, he's going to totally wreck himself. Like he's going to fucking slip on the floor and he's going to crack his head open. He's going to die. You're worried about them all the time, but they don't give a fuck because they don't have any pain. Guys, a simple thing here too is what you were mentioning there, Mark, how young kids, they'll just like get up and run,
Starting point is 00:29:01 right? They don't realize what they're doing, but they're microdosing something that we tend to stop microdosing. Joel Green came onto the podcast and what does he call it when he just like randomly goes into a sprint? Being a psychopath? I called him the other day. He just got done doing those. He's like, I just hit my sprints.
Starting point is 00:29:18 So Joel Green will, from cold, right? He'll be walking, being cold. He'll just hop into like a 20 second sprint. Not at a hundred percent, but hop into like a 20 second sprint not at 100 hop into it because he talked about how you know as you get older that's one of the skills you lose if you your explosive ability so he just randomly does it so that he always has the ability to randomly hop into a sprint think about this many people probably haven't been sprinting who listen in or maybe you have been but when's the last time you just went from cold usually you have to warm up do your mobility get a few hops in you know grease out the joints and then you do a 50 sprint
Starting point is 00:29:50 but if you microdose that shit like let's say you're on a 10 minute walk and then you're like okay i'm gonna go 50 just boom just go go for like 30 steps and stop do that slowly increase your uh the amount of time you do that each day each week each month and then you're gonna be able to kind of sprint don't open it up too quick though don't open your stride i've pulled my hamstring doing that shit but you can keep that ability could you do a little tiny fucking plyometric jumping down from the curb i mean you know because like some people that are heavier and some people that haven't done much in a long time they're like i'm not jumping down if my curve is gonna fucking hurt my ankle or if you're heavier you're like man that's a lot of pressure it feels like my foot's gonna explode can you work
Starting point is 00:30:33 your way into some of these things i mean i think there there's a lot of simple things that you can kind of add to your day that will keep you ahead but if you're not you have to figure out a way to continue to move so like what's going to encourage movement from you is it running is it walking uh is it uh cycling like god hopefully you can find something when you're at work you guys we you guys have seen us use this thing this neuro ball from neboso right it breaks in half but while we're podcasting both mark and i and andrew has one under his feet over there. Break this in half. We have this. I'm using this right now.
Starting point is 00:31:07 This is part of my recovery from my run yesterday. Exactly. You know, we have a boat under all of our feet. We're fucking able to smash out the bottom of our feet, find weird spots, stand on it, stretch out our toes. All these little things have been paying massive dividends for the way our feet move and the way we move. Like I've been noticing in jujitsu when I'm like doing certain things with balance and moving, I'm just like, whoa, I'm feeling way less inhibited. Like you mentioned, like usually you have inhibitions when you do things. Well, my feet are feeling way less inhibited.
Starting point is 00:31:38 I'm moving in ways I haven't before. But these small micro-dosed habits are compounding over time. And it's the little shit. It's the little shit. What you can do is you could pay attention to the times during the day when you're just sitting doing nothing or when you're just sitting and working. How can you implement a habit within that that's not going to get in the way of your doing but that's going to allow you to progress in something as far as your health is concerned. There's a lot. You could be more offensive in your day rather than playing the defense. You know, if you think about the way that someone's going to play jujitsu or play football, the way that someone's going to play a sport has a lot to do with their understanding of how their
Starting point is 00:32:19 body works. And usually people are pretty smart. You know know the guy who doesn't have great conditioning um is is probably going to figure out ways of uh playing off their back you know the guy he's going to want to try to relax and he's going to want to try to like just really not take a lot of risks and and he's kind of hoping that you probably mess up um i'd imagine it's hard to be like amazing when you're when you're limited to that. But there's guys that probably figure it out where you're like, that guy's fucking how does he like he gets people in pretty good. But how much better would he be if he didn't have those inhibitions? Absolutely. Absolutely. It's it's. And the thing, again, it's very simple and it's just adding in small habits. And one thing that you said that you've been getting a lot, is uh actually i think you referenced in your post how people are wondering well you know the reason you got time and the reason you're able to do all this is because you're rich bro isn't it right
Starting point is 00:33:15 this is just because you got money now that's why you're like i mean it'll take a run uh you know i think kind of first of all, uh, I've been doing like whatever the fuck I want for a really long time. I've been just following my heart. That's what my parents kind of instilled in me. That's what they taught me. And with the love and, um, the many hugs and much encouragement and all the belief that they had in me, uh me allowed me to do a lot of that. So we just talked about inhibition. Well, I didn't have this extra thing to worry about because I had, you know, food, I had shelter, I had awesome parents that were always there. I think it's important to tell people that and to teach people that because first of all, I'd love for the people that are
Starting point is 00:34:02 listening to be great parents too, or do the best they possibly can when they have an opportunity to because I really think that a penis pump fall. Man, I was so scared this thing was about to fall on me. I bent down to pick this up and my booty hit the thing. Oh, shit. Man, it shook a little bit. I thought a penis pump was going to land on you. Oh, you dropped Master Chief.
Starting point is 00:34:19 I was Master Chief. But I think a way that we kind of reform the world is through the young people that are out there when they get the opportunity to be parents. And hopefully they can instill some good qualities. But I've always been somebody that leaned towards the things that I like. I had a regular job for about a week and I fucking quit. I worked at Marshall's stocking some shelves. You worked at Marshall's? Hey.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Do they still have Marshall's? Oh, yeah. Okay. Somewhere. Yeah. I like, they told me to clean the bathroom and I was like, I'm out of here. Nice. I'm like, I'm not, I'm not down with that.
Starting point is 00:34:59 What happened to stocking shelves? I thought I could stock some shelves, you know? I'm like, I don't know about the cleaning the bathroom. But anyway, I've always leaned towards like doing the shit that I want to do and doing the things that I love to do. It took a lot of time. It took a lot of patience. There wasn't always money in it. It didn't always make sense.
Starting point is 00:35:17 But it always made sense to me because I'm like, this is what I'd like to do. I'd have people make other suggestions. Oh, you should work over here. You should work over there. I'm like, I'm not going to, I don't want to do any of that. Like, I don't want to be part of any of that. I don't want to work at the fucking airport. I don't want to, uh, you know, work at a store ringing people up or whatever. I didn't want to do any of those things. So I was like, well, what are things that I can do so that I'm simultaneously, you know, I guess like keeping the lights on, paying the bills. So I'm working to kind of maintain my life and lifestyle while I'm working towards what I would consider to be like a fortune, not necessarily in the money, but in just what I was after, which was a combination of money, freedom, and just success, I guess you'd say. So that's what I've always been kind of chasing. And I encourage other people to do the same. And it doesn't mean that you go in
Starting point is 00:36:18 today and you go, fuck you, I'm quitting my job. It means that you follow that secondary or maybe first dairy uh skill set that you have of photography and you go and fucking take your shot and you do what tom segura has talked about and what burke kreischer talks about i really strongly advise that you guys listen to people like that and listen to joe rogan because these are people that made enough money they carved their way so well andrew shoals another. They carved their way so well. Andrew Scholl is another one. They carved their way so well that they don't need to worry about what NBC says or ABC or any of these big networks for them to make a movie, for them to have a TV series, or they don't even need a TV series or a movie. They can fucking just kill it with what they're doing, and they can figure out ways to monetize that in whatever way they want now so you can play a similar game it might not seem
Starting point is 00:37:12 like it but like you can start low and slow and it's going to take a long time over time if you take your shot as andrew did walking through the doors of super training being like hey man i'm gonna perv on these girls and snap some pictures would you be interested in these photos Mark oh my god it wasn't my fault that the one opportunity I had to talk to you you just happened to throw an event where it's nothing but hot chicks
Starting point is 00:37:35 it was here it was these pictures are great pictures of butts I remember Amanda Bucci was here Ashley Horner so that was why I was not like that. Very pretty. Ashley Horner. So that was why I was there, because Ashley Horner. I think I, yeah, I was there on that day, too.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I was just lurking like. Wearing some gray sweatpants. Actually, I was wearing tights, but you. Meg Squats was there, too, right? Meg Squats was there. God, what's the other chick's name? Jen Widerstrom was there. Jen was there? Mm-hmm. I's name? Jen Widerstrom was there. Jen was there?
Starting point is 00:38:06 Mm-hmm. I don't remember. Jen. Yep. Jen, Jen, Jen. Yeah. That was great. Thinking about that day.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Sorry. But seriously, you came in on that day, and you just tell the story. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. This is how we started. Yeah, I know. I've said it on the podcast before but like it's it's been a while but basically so i was just uh like a freelance photographer so i had a eight to five job that i didn't love um i was in i call it the medical outfield because it was just
Starting point is 00:38:36 medical records so it's like oh i'm in the medical field or what part like oh the part that doesn't deal with anybody just the fucking clerical side of it so i hated it um i noticed one day that like if i disappeared nobody would have noticed like the job just would get done by somebody else and it's currently still getting done by somebody else still you know yeah um but i was listening to joe rogan and he was like there's somebody in the cubicle right now that fucking hates their job and like they're not even supposed to be listening to this podcast but they're hiding around doing it and i was like holy, that's me. Like that person feels stuck or whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And I kept going on. I'm like, that's it. I'm going to fucking take this shit serious. So, um, again, started freelancing, doing every single gig I could get from shitty, you know, house parties to, uh, you know, kids, birthday parties, weddings, portraits, et cetera. Yeah. But I was always into fitness. So, uh, my wife actually was like, holy shit, Ashley Horner is going to be at a gym in West Sacramento. When she said West Sacramento, because I watched Bigger, Stronger, Faster, but Chris Bell was on Rogan not too long before that. And he mentioned West Sac Super Training. I was like, oh shit, that's that super training. So I knew right away. And so I'm like, we got to go. So I knew right away. And so I'm like, we got to go. And I had just said, like, if I catch a moment where Mark's by himself, I'm just going to ask him like, hey, do powerlifters need photos taken? In my head, I was like, he's going to be bombarded with fans and like, I'm never going to have this opportunity. But there was like a lull in like the events and shit going on. And Mark was just kind of hanging out and I'm like, oh, shit, here we go. And so to him I was super nervous like like holy fuck I'm just like hey man like um I'm a photographer and like I don't know if powerlifters ever need pictures taken but you know I would love to be that photographer yeah and he was like powerlifters don't need photos taken I was like oh fuck okay well at least I tried he's
Starting point is 00:40:22 like but I need a photographer I don't have an in-house photographer. And I was like, oh, shit. And I was like, well, here's my card. Please hit me up and let me know what I can do for you. And I think the number I put on there was like a Google Voice number because I was trying to pass that card out to as many people as possible, but I didn't want them to have my number. And so Mark's trying to text it, and it's going to someone else and shit.
Starting point is 00:40:43 And so he ended up having to email me. I was lucky. Yeah, it was because he ended up having to email me. And so I ended up. I was lucky. Yeah, it was because he doesn't fuck with email. Exactly. I didn't even think about that, actually. Holy shit. Yeah, that's super lucky.
Starting point is 00:40:55 But in that moment, I had no like fitnessy photos of any kind. So one of the gigs I did was a housewarming party for an owner of a crossfit gym that's no longer in business but um shout out to my boy um philip trujillo because he was part of that group and so we're still friends but um i went and did photos for them for free because i was like i need i need something to show mark that i can fucking do this and so i did some pretty dope pictures um so when i came in, I showed Mark those pictures. He dug them. I printed them out and I put them in like a magazine and shit,
Starting point is 00:41:28 but I think I just pulled up a laptop because I wasn't ready at that time. Yeah. But he saw them, he dug them, and he's like, all right, we'll come in, you know, whatever it was like random like leg day Tuesday. So he's like, come in on Saturday and, you know, we'll do some stuff. And so like I just – I worked for, I don't know, like a month and a half, two months for free. Like I didn't even worry about it and then my work schedule was going to change so I was going to have to work on the weekends so I told Mark I was just like hey
Starting point is 00:41:54 like I know we do a lot of shooting and stuff on the weekends but my schedule is going to change and he was like well we don't have to worry about that much longer and he walks away and I'm like what the fuck does that mean like what we're not gonna have to worry about that much longer and he walks away and I'm like what the fuck does that mean like we're not gonna have to worry about it I'm like yeah I gotta worry about it like is he gonna offer me a job like what's going on here and then sure enough like that week he was just like hey dude like he called me he's like I want you to work for us full-time um like the he's like the money will come eventually he's like but this should be enough to get you started and it was it was I mean no like not dissing mark or anything because it was an amazing opportunity but it
Starting point is 00:42:29 was a low number that it was like oh shit can we even do this right now because in that at that time my wife and I it was paycheck to paycheck you know like we were not where we are today it was tough but my wife was like this is what you've always wanted to do. This is your dream. So we have to give it a shot. And so we did. And thank goodness we did because, you know, I just worked my ass off. I tried to bring as much value to super training as possible and made it to where, like, I was, like, ingrained into almost everything that we do or that we were doing back then. Implanted yourself.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Yes. Yes. I planted that seed deep. And got deep in them yeah and it was the most amazing like shot that i've ever taken i remember i woke up in the middle of the night with like chest pain so stressed that i was gonna fuck things up like oh fuck we got a big shoot tomorrow all i could think about was god damn i'm gonna mess something up and have like marcus filipino thunder have to do a big lift again he's gonna be so pissed off you never want to get that man he's gonna fucking are you
Starting point is 00:43:28 serious like you fucking you know kick my ass or something you know like these were thoughts that i had you know and so like it wasn't i wish i could be like oh i got this opportunity and i fucking ran with it and you couldn't you know there was no looking back like every day was like holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit but like getting thrown into the fire like it made me grow so much and then also so it was mark and then at that time charlie zamora who was a fucking psychopath because he was just like we need this done now like dude like i just like got here and he's like no either you do it we're gonna find somebody else that does it and i love him for it because without that i don't i wouldn't be who i am like i am fucking now i look at other
Starting point is 00:44:08 photographers and i'm like why are you guys so slow what's going on here and so because of all this like having that one fucking chance to meet mark and like you know again giving my card and shoot my shot it led to i mean a fucking dream come true and like like um one of the top fitness podcasts in the world bro yeah i was gonna say like like yeah i think it's safe to say like it generational changes are being made because of that one day like yeah like i'm gonna break a path that's going on in my family and like there's a lot of cool shit that's happening because of like where this all started and where it's going but see some people are going to say what you did was luck but you you went out of your comfort zone to go to a gym that you never thought and you you asked the dude yes do you need this you you
Starting point is 00:44:54 wouldn't wait for something to come to you you went for it because people say oh andrew's lucky but they don't see like you implanted yourself on day one and now look where you are. Right. It's it's there's a lot. There's luck. But of course, there's all the luck started with an action you chose to take. Yeah. And this was, I think, after about seven years of trying to figure shit out with a camera, you know, like getting confident.
Starting point is 00:45:18 You had the experience with the camera to getting confident enough to be like, oh, fuck, if he does say yes, like, oh, okay, I can do this. And then, you know, I went and did it. But, yeah, there's a lot of luck, and I'm not going to deny that. Like what you just said about the email thing. Like I can't think of an email that Mark has ever written me other than that first one. Usually just delete. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Yeah. So other than that, there's a lot uh just hard work and just yes fuck comfort zone dude my comfort zone was like the size of a dime how about the podcast though because you didn't you no seriously i think you should mention that too because that's a big deal well okay so i'll try to be as brief with that one as possible but i could just see that changes were being made with the the previous like setup the podcast. And I don't mean personnel. I mean literally like equipment-wise setup. And I just kind of looked and I'm just like, based on manpower, they don't have enough people to run this new setup.
Starting point is 00:46:15 So I had asked Mark. I'm like, hey, can I be the guy back here just making sure nothing falls apart? And he's just like, okay, yeah, that sounds cool. Then it did go through some personnel changes. And I kind of corner cornered mark and i'm just like i'm still the guy i'm gonna produce this show and he's just like sick i don't have to find somebody to do it now and then again in that moment i was just like i don't know what i'm doing i had i had no clue. Shout out to Krusty Kev.
Starting point is 00:46:47 He did help get me on my feet. He's the one that set up the original studio. So he did show me the ropes. But part of the way through of setting up the previous studio, it was like I caught up to his knowledge base. And then we started learning together because he was still in that field. So once we did start hitting record i had to go back to youtube university so like a lot of this shit was all learning on the fly on youtube though on youtube your school was youtube yes yes absolutely that's a big deal yeah no no fucking engineering school
Starting point is 00:47:16 no disrespect to anybody that did go to school for this i actually admire the fuck out of you and i have a shit ton of questions for you because I have so much to learn but a lot of people that do want to start this stuff it's like no like you just need a phone and fucking go to anchor.fm and start a podcast right now like it's that easy but to get it running sounding looking professional is a whole nother story so I did have to fuck things up and then learn how to fix it and kind of learn how to make it sound better. So like, I remember the first live that we did, I was like shaking back here. I was just like, I don't know what I'm going to do. And then, you know, then all of a sudden I had a microphone in front of me asking more questions and voices all like, you know, cracking and I still get
Starting point is 00:47:57 nervous to this day, but a lot of it was on the job. Are we recording right now? Yes. I still get the cold chill. For people that don't know, it's just like kind of inside joke but like I'll hit record 10 minutes in, I'll be like, I didn't hit record and I'll look back and it's like it's rolling so we're good there. But yeah, again, so that was just being
Starting point is 00:48:17 in the right place at the right time and getting out of that comfort zone one more time. Something that's been very difficult for me to do my entire life. That sounds like luck, bro. Power Project family, I hope you guys are enjoying this episode. Now, Mark, Andrew, and myself have been cold plunging for a while now. We actually use the Cold Plunge XL. But the reason why this has become part of our daily routine every single day is because of honestly how good it makes us feel coming out of that water. Now, if you want to take a cold shower, that is beneficial and you need to be doing that if you don't have a cold plunge. But if you do get a cold plunge that goes all the way
Starting point is 00:48:48 down to 39 degrees, it's crazy because Andrew Hurman actually talked about the benefits of dopamine post-cold plunging. Now, cocaine gives you a 2.5 rise in your dopamine release. Cold plunging gives you that also, but it also gives you a sustained higher level of dopamine throughout your day. That's just one of the benefits as there are many. So if you guys want to get on it, Andrew, how can they? the absolute best thing I have ever done for my mental health. Every single day I get in this cold plunge and I come out a happier, more positive and more vibrant human. I can't recommend this enough. Again, the coldplunge.com promo code power project to save $150 off links to them
Starting point is 00:49:34 down in the description as well as the podcast show notes. I think people need to know too, you're, you're not going to like make the money that you want to make. Like it's going to take a while. Um, especially if it's going to take a while. Especially if it's something that like for a lot of people, they will have a job or maybe they went to school and they're not really gaining the experience in the thing that they truly love.
Starting point is 00:50:01 And so when they come to you as an employee, if you're an employer, you're, it's the smartest thing in the world is to underpay them. And the reason is, is because you need to see if they are willing to make that leap. Like if they're willing to make that leap and they're willing to go through some of that for a little while, then you know who you have. Then obviously it's important to like promote once you have them in the door. But I think it's also an important part of the process is that they're not making some amount of money as if they're coming in super experienced. You know, if you came from an agency and you're like, oh, you know, I used to do photos for
Starting point is 00:50:44 this guy, that guy. You know, if you came from an agency and you're like, oh, you know, I used to do photos for this guy, that guy. And I have a social media background and I came from these seven other companies. And, well, I would just, you know, I would offer you money and you'd be like, dude, like that's just not anywhere near anything. Like I need to make 150K. That's a different story. You know, when someone comes to you with a lot of experience, you're going to have to match that and decide if that's for your company. But my experience has been,
Starting point is 00:51:10 I want people that also want to do and pursue the things that they want to do. I want people that have dreams. And I'm going to give you the money so that you can pay your bills, but it's not going to be the money of your dreams. You've got to work towards that and you've got to work for that. And that's going to give you the money so that you can pay your bills, but it's not going to be the money of your dreams. You've got to work towards that and you've got to work for that, and that's going to take some time. And so you guys have seen it time and time again with the different people who have come through the doors and the different people that worked here.
Starting point is 00:51:36 And some people get it and they work their way through it. And sometimes it doesn't always work out the same way for each person. But if you're going to chase down your dreams, you're going to have times where you're just not – it's going to be very difficult in most cases for you to figure out how to have an income that is really worth a shit until you did enough work to show that you have an output that can be monetized really well.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Yeah, and that was definitely something that I think we both connected on because I even told you like before when I was working for free, I was like, I don't really like true, like money doesn't motivate me. Money doesn't drive me. I'm like it. I just want to make my own footprint on this planet.
Starting point is 00:52:18 And so like, even if that means it's pictures of you and of the gym, you know, and it's, it'll like, I mean some cases like in the books and stuff, it does say, you know, photography by Andrew Zaragoza, which I'm super fucking proud of. Or like when we got in Flex magazine, like, oh, my God, that was the most incredible day ever. When I went to the store and went to the magazine rack and, you know, bought the fucking shit that had my name in it. And so it's like, I didn't know that. Do we have that magazine here or no um i have it at home okay
Starting point is 00:52:49 okay that's this yeah so like that shit was like that's what i was that's what i wanted you know i wanted that more than anything and because like i said i want to put my own footprint on this planet so when i'm gone you know my shit's still here instead of you know just following someone else's footsteps i'd like for people to think about um what's still here instead of, you know, just following someone else's footsteps. I'd like for people to think about, um, what's the lowest amount of money that you could make, you know, like a good point. Yeah. Um, cause, and then also people like they, they factor in so many other things. Sometimes a company will give you like company car and all these things.
Starting point is 00:53:20 It's really like, yeah, it's really like I make 150 or 200 and it's like, no, you actually make the 80 that they give you. Just relax. But you also have to factor in that you may be doing a job that you don't want to do. What's the price of that? Like that sounds really, that sounds like a key ingredient. Like you're doing something you don't want to do now if you're doing something five days a week nine to five and it affords you to do fishing trips on the weekend affords you to do stuff with your family and you're able to take some of the vacations that you want and you're there for the holidays and you're there for most of the stuff that you want to be around for that sounds pretty good that sounds like a pretty good trade-off like i gotta do some shit that i really don't want to do.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Maybe a little more often than I'd like, but I still get to, you know, pick my kids up from football practice. I still get to watch them play the game. I still get to chill on the weekend. I still get, that sounds pretty good. That sounds fairly balanced, but there's a lot of people who don't have that. They're doing stuff that they don't want to do. They're not making the money that they want to make in the first place.
Starting point is 00:54:27 And they're not leading the life and having the life that they want. So it's like, fuck, man, I'd love to see you make a jump from your 80 or $100,000 a year job down to half. You know, fucking make the jump. That's what other people do that have figured out how to make it doesn't really mean that you start your own business either you still might work for somebody or with somebody because uh owning your own shit is is complicated and and that's not for everybody either but a big thing is like man one of the things that i i think it's now possible for more people than it's ever been possible in history is just kind of the ability for your work to be something that you like
Starting point is 00:55:13 my mom for example didn't have the luxury of like don't get me wrong she's a civil engineer it's not like she hated it but she's going to a cubicle from 9 to 5 every day along with two kids that she had to deal with, right? And just working and working and working. And I've talked to her about the goals that she used to have, right? And there's things that she wanted to do. There's other things that she would have wanted to spend time learning or trying to get good at. But she went to school to be an engineer and she was now stuck with two kids. There was no internet.
Starting point is 00:55:44 It's like engineering but now like you got all these cats that are you know if you're young i'm gonna say this and there's nothing like if you're older you you can do this too but if you're young this is the time to kind of figure out what kind of shit are you interested in you always talk about interest level because if there's something you're interested in andrew you built the skill of being a photographer for seven years before you ever interested in andrew you built the skill of being a photographer for seven years before you ever talked to mark you already had a skill like you had a trade bro and then you just found somebody who needed that trade but you had it now if you weren't doing that and you were just working whatever random ass jobs you're working
Starting point is 00:56:19 without that skill and that event came you wouldn't be here right now no no and then also like i i wish i'm not good with math but like i didn't worry or i didn't like study photography in high school like i wasn't on the like fucking uh yearbook team or any of that shit like i used to say like i wish i could go back and figure that out but like i don't know man i was like mid-20s when i like got my first camera and i started like making videos and shit yeah so like i picked it up really late like really really late so like yeah as far as like timing and stuff you do have time but like you gotta you know if you are a little bit older like start getting on it sooner than later and there's so many there's so many like people that need assistance now like if you're alert like yo if you know how to handle uh editing stuff on social
Starting point is 00:57:10 or whatever that might not be a thing you're interested in but there are so many people that do high level content that are willing to just pay people to make that stuff for them and you can learn this shit on youtube like you could all you need is a phone you don't need to like do this shit on final cut you just need a phone and you could, all you need is a phone. You don't need to like do this shit on Final Cut. You just need a phone and you could edit up some amazing videos. Someone just hit us up
Starting point is 00:57:30 to edit some videos for you and now he's hired and he's just remotely making videos for you and he's making some but it's just some random guy. So it doesn't have to be, it doesn't have to be complicated.
Starting point is 00:57:45 I mean, there's so many different ways to to make money and when it comes to you know finding what you enjoy you might have to do something that's secondary or like an offshoot of that yeah um just figure out if you get your foot in the door you know if you like if somebody wanted to work here like figure out how to work in our store like literally i believe that just about anybody could work in our store they can kind of examine and look around and maybe they want to be maybe they want to try to figure out stuff to do for social media or any other business just get your foot in the door figure out what they need if you go somewhere if you literally just walk into a building like like walking unannounced, and just say, I follow this place on Instagram, and I would absolutely love nothing more than to figure out how to have a job here.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Because this place seems like it kicks ass. Somebody's going to pay attention to you. Somebody's going to say, they might say, hey, you got to come back in two weeks, or you got to come back. You know, can I have an appointment? Can I fill out a resume? I mean, people aren't going to turn you away. They're going to be excited that you're excited to work there. Yeah. Okay. This is a, there's, there's one thing I was going to say too. Oh yeah. With adding on to what you said though, just all you have to think about is like, how can I just add value to whatever these people or this person or this team is doing? If you legit just have like, you don't have to have a full business plan,
Starting point is 00:59:09 but if you have some ideas of just some way you can actually add value, I guarantee you're going to get a lot of looks. And again, because the internet and social, you can reach out to a lot of people. Number one, you can do some stuff in person, but also you can do a lot of stuff remote. And if you have the skills to help somebody out with something remote and they're willing to pay you, if there's something else that you really want to do, now you have this remote job. Like one of the guys that works with the podcast, Carlos doesn't live here. He lives in the East coast. He has other stuff he does, but he has a skill of editing stuff and he's able to, and now he's able to make that while also pursuing the other things he wants to pursue. It gives you more time to head towards what you want to do.
Starting point is 00:59:51 But what I was going to mention was Andrew and I were kind of talking about this luck thing and you – this whole topic is coming up because you brought it up how like people are like, are you only – like how lucky are you or are you able to do this shit because you're rich or whatever? Yeah, like lucky or patient or good at what what you do or good at what you do but how i got here is also like there was some luck involved but it was the same thing like andrew like there was luck and there was also putting myself like out there okay so what happened the the first time i ever came to super training was actually i think in 2014 it was at the old super training. And there was a seminar where you, Omar, Suf and Mike did a live podcast. And I came and I was in the audience with my ex-girlfriend. And when you guys were finished, I asked a question. And I remember it was either you or Omar was like, that question's a little bit too complicated. I don't know if we
Starting point is 01:00:39 can really answer it. But what happened after that was the LA Fit Expo of the next year, I went out to Barba Brigade and I drove out there, my beat up ass Corolla. I drove my car out there because I didn't have money for a plane ticket because my goal was just to like network with fitness people and see what the fuck I could do. Then when I was training at Barbell Brigade, you recognized me because I think you remember me from that live podcast you guys did. So you recognize me and you're like, you should come train at Super Training. And I didn't have the balls beforehand to actually just randomly come into the gym and train, even though it was still free. It's always been free. I didn't have the balls to do that.
Starting point is 01:01:17 But after you invited me, I immediately started coming and training. And then you guys would go out to expos and shit. And I just asked, hey, y'all don't need to pay me, but I know I can sell shit. How about you guys? Uh, I'll, I'll come to the next expo. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:30 That was that LA fit expo from 2015. So this was actually right after I did a bodybuilding show and I was coming after contest. And that was the first time I also met Mike O'Hearn. I don't think he remembers this, but that was the, that was when I met Mike O'Hearn. I forgot what gym that was.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Pretty shredded. Yep. Looking, yep. I think I was like 235 then. How old were you? That was 2015. I'm 30 now. So much hair.
Starting point is 01:01:58 So I was 20. I was about to turn 23, or I was already 23 at the time. Who's the dude in the front? He's pretty shredded. I don't know who that guy is. I see Mike Rashid in there too. Mike looking great. Mike Rashid's like looking massive,
Starting point is 01:02:12 but yeah, yeah, that was, uh, that was the first time I met O'Hearn, but yeah, like I, I drove out to the San Jose vid expo with you guys.
Starting point is 01:02:19 I didn't get paid, but I literally asked you guys, Hey, if I drive out, can I just come help you guys sell shit at the booth? I didn't to get paid and y'all were like yeah sure i came and then you're like okay looks like you can talk to people and sell some shit so then you guys invited me to come out to other expos yeah um so i was just i just randomly started doing stuff with you guys then then we randomly and i ended up in videos because I was lifting with you guys and then
Starting point is 01:02:45 finally became part of like the team and then a few years later I started doing a podcast with my friend because I saw like what you guys are doing here I was like I want to do podcasts so I did this podcast or started this podcast called we don't know yet with my best friend Brian and I was doing that for like a year and a half and then you invited me first off to as a guest on the podcast and then you invited me you off to, as a guest on the podcast. And then you invited me, you and Andrew invited me to come co-host the podcast. I think it was episode 176.
Starting point is 01:03:12 So I was lucky. I was already doing some podcast stuff before, even though when I look at old podcasts, I was nervous as fuck. But it's like, if I didn't come to that seminar that early, like back in 14, I didn't ask that question. You might not recognize me from being from Sacramento and you wouldn't have invited me to the gym and come train. And then none of this would happen.
Starting point is 01:03:34 So again, like Andrew. And none of that beginning stuff has really anything to do with an occupation or transaction of money. No, I didn't ask for money. I didn't like when I came, when I was like, I'll, I'll go to the expo. I'll, I didn't ask to go with anyone.
Starting point is 01:03:48 I didn't. Did they ask what college you went to? Nah, no. Okay. Nah. Right. I was just like,
Starting point is 01:03:54 I, I, I'm pretty sure I can sell some shit with you guys. I can, I can, I can, I can sling some slingshots and boom. Well,
Starting point is 01:04:00 bam. Well, and if you go back even further, it's like your soccer background helped your experience at, I think you said you worked at 24 Hour Fitness. I worked at 24 Hour Fitness. But at the time when I started working with you guys, I was a full-time online coach. So I was working with bodybuilders and I was also prepping powerlifters for meets. So coaching was the only thing I did.
Starting point is 01:04:21 And my whole thing was just I never wanted to have a boss. was the only thing I did and my whole thing was just I never wanted to have a boss that was like that's why like I I did all that because I was like I had a normal job for a bit when I was in when I was in my teens late teens I was like I fucking hate working in a building for hours I can't stand it so yeah that's that's all of that kind of helped this. But those other life experiences are crucial and like even playing soccer and then getting injured and like, you know, kind of just seeing how far you can take your body. Like it kept you interested in other stuff. Then you started doing – getting more into bodybuilding, right? Yeah. I mean all of the – the whole story matters, you know?
Starting point is 01:05:06 Yeah, I was already a pro. I was already a pro natural bodybuilder in a few federations. See, that's another key factor. And going back to Andrew's story, too, it's like Andrew had at least a jumping off point, you know, being a pro bodybuilder. Like being someone who goes from being jacked, which you were jacked when you were young, and then being more jacked, I guess you'd say. Came out the womb jacked. I was sucking that trend milk. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:36 But transforming your body like that and the amount of discipline that it takes and the low calories and the different shit you put yourself through doing many bodybuilding shows um like all those experiences they're all really really important and they're all critical and why were you doing those things like they weren't wasn't really for especially then like i mean social media was less aggressive and like it's just what was it for it's just like we fucking i don't know what it's for. It's what I like to do. This is what I'm interested in. And it keeps leading you down these other paths. So it's a great idea to continually try to follow what you're interested in. Hopefully what you're interested in is like healthy. Hopefully you're not just like chasing chicks or something,
Starting point is 01:06:20 which there's nothing wrong with that. But sometimes that can lead to you running into some devil pussy. Devil pussy mugs will be coming to you guys soon at our website, which is probably going to be done by this time. Coffee tastes different out of there too, doesn't it? Tastes like pussy. A little sweeter? Somebody left on the
Starting point is 01:06:38 Within You brand Instagram. We've made a post of this combination like salted caramel, steak shake, and vanilla protein powder that I mixed together. And I was like, it tastes really good. Someone's like, when are you coming out with pussy flavor? And it got a lot of likes, you know, like a lot of other people liked it. And one of our employees here was like, this is disgusting.
Starting point is 01:07:05 I cannot. I was like, I was like, listen, read the room. Somebody. Yeah. I was like, if somebody came out with pussy flavored protein powder, I'd be the first person in line. I'd be, I'd be purchasing that. I would buy that.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I would need a code. I'd buy that immediately. I would be like, oh, that's a little strange. $280. Okay, check out. Boom. Buy 10. You know what would be a hell of a business idea for anyone in the adult space?
Starting point is 01:07:36 What is that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay, so they do have molds of different porn stars' vaginas as fleshlights. And they're like, oh, this is Asa Akira. This is Lisa Ann. This is Sasha Gray.
Starting point is 01:07:52 These were some of my favorites as a youth. Wasn't Sasha Gray like from Sacramento too? Or did I imagine that? Did you use studies? You could be wrong. I don't want to Google it. I haven't purchased any of these, by the way. It's just, I just know about them.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Thanks, he's heard. But if you came out with a protein powder that was like, ah, this tastes like. You see where I'm going here. And if you just got their signature like this is authentic, that's a hell of a way. That's what's the name. Yeah, it's like, what is it? Desiccated, right? Desiccated sperm.
Starting point is 01:08:36 There you go. Do we remember where you were before we got here? No. No. Something about opportunity. I don't know. That is an opportunity. I was just saying like, you know, the many different things that you do kind of lead you.
Starting point is 01:08:51 It's always going to lead you to something better, right? You go and you try something. You find out that a job at that fast food restaurant wasn't anything that you really dug for long enough. But it leads you to think about maybe something that you do want to do. for long enough, but it leads you to think about maybe something that you do want to do. So you get a job where you're, uh, you work in a fucking insurance or something and you're just crunching numbers and you're one of those kinds of people. And you just find out like, Oh, I don't, I kind of like numbers and I'm good with numbers, but I actually like people more so than anything. So maybe you, uh, start doing what my dad does. Maybe you're does maybe you're uh maybe you do run a tax
Starting point is 01:09:26 practice or something like that you know you gotta again see my dad is an interesting thing or he's an interesting person and his uh job switches over the years because it only touches upon some of his interests it's not like fully he's not like fully. He doesn't like love taxes. He doesn't like love everything, all things taxes. But my dad is a really good problem solver. You could go to him with anything, and he's going to give you the longest explanation you've ever heard in your life. And he's going to give you some like at least halfway decent solutions. He's really good at that. He's good at when he talks to people.
Starting point is 01:10:07 And when it comes to something like taxes, it's like that particular job hit him perfectly because it mixes what he's already good at with some things that he loves. So sometimes it's a blend. Like it's not always like personal training. Like you don't really love personal training. You don't love changing the weights for people. And, you know, there's going to be certain people that come in where you're going to be like, oh, my God. Or they don't come in and they call you five minutes before your appointment at 5 a.m. And they're like, sorry, can't come.
Starting point is 01:10:36 And you're already at the gym. And you're already at the gym. Yeah, there's shit like that that happens, right? And so there's going to be like parts to every job that you may, you may not like, but you could, I think it's important too, to like know yourself, like what, like what kind of person are you? Do you want to work for somebody else? Like, can you work for somebody else? Can you work well with other people? Like if you can't work well with other people, um, then maybe you got to try to figure out a way to have a job from home or a way to monetize
Starting point is 01:11:05 YouTube videos where you don't have to really worry about a particular, you don't have to really worry about other people. And what I get from watching Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer is they like, they just do stuff. Like in that last podcast that they did, Bert was like, I was in a meeting and like, turns out this guy, like he couldn't work with me at the time. And he goes, I just walked out and I said, I'm done. I'm done. I'm going to go do my own thing. And you can only do that if you already have built yourself into something like nevermind the financial aspect of it, which can be important too. But you, you have to, you have to like make something of yourself. But the only way to make anything of yourself
Starting point is 01:11:47 is that you have to try a lot of things. And you're going to fuck up. You're going to fail. And you're going to feel like you're not that good at stuff. Something like soccer is a great example. My experience with pro wrestling is another example. Like, I'm sure you went to camps and things like that where your eyes just bugged out of your head. You're like, holy fuck. Like, I'm good, and I think that I'm pretty good. And maybe I can kind of hang with a good amount of these people here, but fuck. Like, there's some really just radical people here that are amazing. I experienced the same thing in pro wrestling, like watching Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Shelton Benjamin jumping up on the top rope like it was nothing and then fucking running around on the top rope, balanced all four corners and then did a backflip. I'm like, OK, I'm going to have to at the very least, if I'm going to pursue this further, I'm going to have to figure at the very least, if I'm going to pursue this further, I'm going to have to figure out something else to be good at because I don't believe that I can be better than that guy at that particular thing. Absolutely. And let's go back to this, how can I add value thing? I think that if you're young, it's simple, but if you're young, a lot of the times the ego is a bitch because some people want to be a main character. I want to straight up say everyone knows it.
Starting point is 01:13:11 I'm a co-pilot here. I came into this podcast understanding that I'm here to – I'm the guy who's going to be throwing assists to Jordan. You know what I mean? And it's good to understand that because I think one thing that people can do is they can figure out how can I learn how to be a number two or a number three or a number four to somebody who's the number one. A lot of people aren't okay with that. A lot of people want to always be the number one and that can get in the way of them being able to achieve a lot of shit. But when I came here, when I came onto the podcast, I was like, man, I get to talk to a lot of cool people. I get to learn.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Now my new job, the new thing that I get to do that I'm hungry for every day because I love reading and I love learning. Now I just do that shit and I come and I talk about it with people and I get to learn from people. But I was like, how can I be of benefit here? Right. That's a, that's something that a lot of y'all can do. You can figure, you can find people if whether it's fitness, whatever you come in, you're like, how can I add value? How can I be of benefit? And also if you're a young guy or a woman, how can you drop your ego to understand that you are now here to be beneficial? You're here to bring assistance. That's a space where, like, you could figure that shit out.
Starting point is 01:14:35 There's big opportunity there. Yeah, and if you get some light thrown your way, you'll have to figure out how to navigate that too you know because that that can get tricky right like you see it happen with basketball teams and football teams like this guy was kind of the leader of the team now there's this other guy coming in but like you know with the Patriots and the different teams that Tom Brady's been on I think everyone's just like hey listen like it appears that if we help him out that it helps out everybody else and that it gets us a lot of points on the scoreboard at the end of the day. And it also puts a lot of money in our pocket. So let's continue with that.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Let's keep that going. And I think, you know, and it doesn't mean that like the Scotty Pippen and the other guy, it doesn't mean like those people can't go on to do their own things. Because you see that all the time too. And that ends up being a success a lot of times. But it's important just to understand where you're at in your life and kind of as The Rock used to say, know your role. Yeah. I know it's funny.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Like I'll say coming up, I never thought about like being one or two or anything like that. But as the running your own shit like you have nobody else so like i would hire friends to be like a second shooter but it was always just like we're gonna make this bride feel special because there's not one photographer there's two sometimes three like that's how big we are you know and i would lose money on it because i had to pay them and like i never i didn't know how to wrap that into like the proposal or whatever to be like oh you're gonna get like extra photographers it was always like hey dude just like capture shit so then just in the weird case that I don't come through you have like a side
Starting point is 01:16:14 picture of it but yeah like when I came here like I knew I mean obviously as a photographer no one's looking at you to be number one but you have to be able to like control the number ones, you know, like it was tough. It was very hard to do that, but thankfully, you know, again, getting thrown into the fire, I was okay. But yeah, I 100% agree with that though. Like if you understand that, like the, I guess the greater good of the company and bringing more value is just going to make more, you become more valuable because of it. Absolutely. It was a funny thing.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Back in the early Instagram days, I saw a lot of, when people like were, when online coaching was becoming a thing, like people would name their coaching businesses after themselves. And when I made my coaching business, it was called Break the Bar Coaching. I didn't even see my Indian coaching because I don't like things. I don't want my name. I want it to be
Starting point is 01:17:11 about an idea, not about me. So like, I think I'm very lucky that we were able to come into this because I don't need to be the main draw. You know what I mean? A lot of people change the names too. Like Christian Guzzman alphalete yeah it used to be christian guzman fitness or some shit like that but you know this is actually this is just an aside about like that type of branding thing i'm not some type of brand expert but like alphalete was a idea you know what i mean it's it's it's not christian it's alphalete so that's just like something to think about if you're a young person. You want to start something.
Starting point is 01:17:47 There's no problem naming it after yourself. But if you want to be able to potentially leave it later, then I don't know. Just think about that. Just think about that. I'm not the pro on branding, though. I'm going to tell you that. Yeah, with this show, I think it there was like a couple things that i did early on like if i think back to the slingshot um i remember you know putting
Starting point is 01:18:12 it out and i talked to one of my all my friends are big and fat but i talked to one of my one of my many big fat friends and uh what he said was he's like you should put like your signature on there you know it's like it will say slingshot on there but you should like just throw your name on there he's like you know like the commissioner of the nfl he just like signs it on there yeah and then that way it's like mark bell slingshot and i was like holy fuck that's actually really genius because my main concern is that somebody else will make something similar people have tried yeah even though you have like patents and different things like people are still going to make things but if it's mine and i'm already recognizable and power lifting like that would be helpful people would be like oh well he was first and i don't know maybe they would because
Starting point is 01:18:59 i was first maybe they'd want to support what i had ahead of time because i was an original or whatever yeah which doesn't really happen anyway but it also doesn't hurt that your name is two syllables yeah it's easy mark bell it's easy so I wanted to brand it that way and then I'm just as I've uh grown in business I was just like well I think it just makes sense to use my name for certain things it makes my makes like the branding uh easier and then when you're looking on a podcast, like you don't want it to have a confusing name. I think Lex Friedman, I think Rogan told him like,
Starting point is 01:19:31 just call it Lex Friedman's podcast or whatever. It had, it had a different name previously. And like people couldn't find it. They didn't, they were just wanting to consume stuff from Lex Friedman. They couldn't get to it and stuff like that. So that was,
Starting point is 01:19:43 uh, you know, part of the reason in, in, in naming this, you know, and sticking my name in the front of this, it's just like, well, if somebody searches something from me and I, I've known for a long time that this is going to be the most amount of work that I ever do, regardless of like any other videos, like I've shot a lot of videos in fitness yeah i've got a lot of stuff uh but the podcast this podcast will surpass any amount of footage that i ever created or any amount of content i'll ever create just mainly i'll be from this so if someone searches me boom they find the
Starting point is 01:20:18 power project you know it's funny like when we actually think about the hours how many episodes deep uh eight something eight yeah eight like 804 804 yeah let's just like and that's not like a strict 804 there's like saturday schools and then there's like episode 599 and episode 599 it's like oh fuck we're already at like six something and what did i do like? I did like 500 or 600 previous to that, right? I think so. Yeah, PowerCast. I don't even remember. This was like 1,400 or something.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Been behind the mic for a long time. Long time. Times two hours or whatever. Yeah. I think we average. I think podcasts for us probably average around like an hour 45 to two hours. Yeah. I'm sure somebody could average it out for us.
Starting point is 01:21:05 There's a lot of talking. You'll need to have a skill set you know that's the main thing is like you do want to follow what you're interested in but if what you're interested in currently you're just not that good at you want to make uh art or something like that and you're just not you're gonna have to find something you're to need like a Trojan horse. You need something, some way to get your foot in the door, um, with something else before you start to, you know, express the main thing that you love to do. So it might, it might not show up the way that you think it's going to show up or the things that you end up doing. Like when you started bodybuilding, you had no idea you would end up like basically talking about lifting and working out all the time. Maybe you thought like, Oh, maybe this YouTube thing is kind of cool. Maybe I can talk
Starting point is 01:21:54 about that a bit, but I don't think you ever thought you're going to talk about it all day, every day to all these different people that we have on the show. You know, I've talked about this before, but before you invited me on the podcast, I did the Jordan Peterson self-authoring thing a few years before. And on that, I was like, podcasting was something I really wanted to do. I wanted to figure out a way that I could, because I knew that number one, YouTube would take a while. And I knew like I was working with people, but I was like,
Starting point is 01:22:23 but the only people I'm able to affect or give this information to is the people I'm working with and then like the the few people on social that I had on the time I think I had like maybe 15 or I don't know when we started actually I had 40 but like it wasn't a crazy amount of people so that's one thing it's like figure out literally really spend time to write out your personal goals i've referenced the self-authoring thing because it's the most systematized way i know to outline what you want your life to look like that i personally know of um but figure that out and then just figure out a way to move in that direction whatever way that might be um but then cool like cool enough you guys invited me to come on and podcast with you all.
Starting point is 01:23:07 So it aligned perfectly with the goals that I had. And I want to give a quick shout out to Paul Urciaga, who was my first bodybuilding coach and a trainer that I worked with over at the old gym, Forever Fit, and my second bodybuilding coach that took me through my 2015 Alberto Nunez. Who's looking crazy right now burdo's looking disgusting is he gonna compete coming i know he was about to compete did he compete yet i don't think he's not yet i don't think he's gonna check the old gram getting close i learned a lot from alberto yeah one thing i did forget was like dirt right when i was like um
Starting point is 01:23:41 burdo picking up a camera and stuff i actually did record a podcast with a buddy of mine, but before the episode, cause like back then you had to do like RSS feeds and all that shit. So like it was kind of, it was way more complicated than it is today. But I remember he was like, yeah, we got to get sponsors and did it.
Starting point is 01:23:57 I'm like, bro, we haven't uploaded one episode yet. So anyways, so I just forgot about that, but let's see here. Oh my gosh. Anyways, so I just forgot about that.
Starting point is 01:24:03 But let's see here. Oh, my gosh. Bro looks disgusting. One week and a day out on – when was this posted? Shreddy McShredderton. I can't tell. Any idea what his body weight is? Dog.
Starting point is 01:24:20 Okay, my guess is like maybe mid-160s. Like 165, 170. That's a lot bigger than he used to be.'s for sure he probably mentions it somewhere any numbers all right so natural bodybuilding i love it because alberto nunez is that guy man he's that guy who's like people just think he's on so much shit but he's just been putting in those hours every fucking day. I think the biggest difference is his back. Oh, his back's been huge, though. Like, I mean, yeah, yeah, his back is wild, but, like, Birdo's had that shell.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Like, that was always his thing. When he goes like, you see that shit. When he goes like that. He's got four slices of pizza on his back. He's always had that turtle shell. Bam, bam. But I learned a lot from our Birdo. He taught me a lot about prepping people
Starting point is 01:25:06 and he gave me a lot of resources to learn how to help people die and stuff. All the shots of his pack. This is just a direct shot. He likes people to look at his penis inadvertently, but I mean, it is what it is, right? I mean, if his quads are that veiny.
Starting point is 01:25:22 One of those veins definitely leads right to the tip of his cock. Hey now, I'm not nervous about that at all though. Yeah, that looks gnarly. Especially because of that kind of dug out area on the top of the bicep, shoulder, and then on the tricep.
Starting point is 01:25:39 That separation makes it look crazy. There's such a difference between just lean and stage lean. Y'all don't realize there is a big difference between just being lean like i'm lean stage lean is another at is another dimension that's just different you you know what that's like yeah it looks it looks crazy yeah and you can't really mimic you can't just be like i'm gonna do that like that's what i respect about o'hearn o'hearn kind of just does it because i don't think he's been on stage other than like guest
Starting point is 01:26:08 posing like in a long time like he hasn't really competed and he'll get fucking diced though i mean he was very lean when he was here but i've seen him even slightly leaner than that just just because yeah it's really cool how he's uh you guys probably have heard the episode now but the fasting he's implementing i wanted to talk to him more that it's going to be cool to see how he implements the fasting gum too i think that's going to help him but he's been doing some weird ass fasting where he's doing like four days right just water and maybe electrolytes and stuff so he might have some greens if he really feels like he's gonna die or something like that like michael hearn is that guy like he really just
Starting point is 01:26:45 just he's been at it for a minute but that's all and it's i think it's wild that now was the first time he ever put fasting in his tool belt like he hasn't used any of that shit before and now he just started and now it's just another tool for michael hearn to demolish the competition it makes sense that he brought that in because like i remember talking to him years ago and i'd ask him like what he's been eating when he gets really shredded and he's like oh i have like three or four chicken breasts a day and some like fucking broccoli or something ice chicken and broccoli i was like what the fuck it's like chicken broccoli and rice no chicken broccoli and ice and oxygen that's it yeah, broccoli, and ice. And ice. And oxygen.
Starting point is 01:27:25 That's it. Yeah, it was wild. Yeah. We haven't done this in a while. And Seema, can you do me a huge fave and read this review from iTunes? Oh, my God. Okay. I started listening in on Mark Bell's Power Project after searching for Ben Patrick podcasts.
Starting point is 01:27:40 I appreciated the attention and openness that these guys gave him. He was better than any other host, even Joe Rogan. We love you, Joe. I started listening in more just out of curiosity, even if it was an uninteresting topic. Now I'm hooked. They have amazing banter. They ask all the right questions. They actually converse versus just asking a list of questions.
Starting point is 01:28:04 God damn. They have open minds and open booties and show each guest respect. Even if you can tell they don't agree. Peaches. They're so funny. Some of y'all got that one. They're so funny. And bonus points for the endless pods on the topic of the big toe.
Starting point is 01:28:22 I don't ever rate podcasts and i don't lift heavy or eat meat that's how good this stuff is goddamn damn yeah so that is from let's see it looks like it's a bears eats beats via apple podcast so thank you so much for that review that was fucking dope i feel like shutting the tier guys i'm so happy that we're that was a good one damn yeah get me all my take us on out of here all right thank you everybody for checking out today's episode and again shout out to what is it bears eats beats for dropping that review sincerely appreciate that if he doesn't eat meat yeah yeah i guess not we have a vegetarian slash vegan or maybe they just don't like crush it as much as we do you know i like it's the Beats in the name.
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Starting point is 01:29:51 All of our shit's in the description, guys. At NseemaYinYang on Instagram and YouTube. At NseemaYinYang on TikTok and Twitter. Mark? I doubt that anybody lives in this area, but if you do, go to the Davis Arboretum and go give it a run and go see if you can get under 30 minutes. It ain't easy, but I think some of you freaks out there can probably do it pretty easily. But tell them not to cheat
Starting point is 01:30:12 the Arboretum because like there's a... I was going to say there's a couple different routes. There are different routes. Just keep going on the right side of here. We're not going to like you know... Check the tape? Yeah, but if you get like 21 minutes, we'll know you fucked up yeah i'm just good bro but uh i think there is a way to track it like i think uh because my buddy did it
Starting point is 01:30:32 and he used like a nike app and then it shows you like how far you ran and the time and it's like i mean you'd have to really go out of your way to i'm sure you could i'm sure you can make up anything but that would be kind of hard to fake you just hit a pr yeah i did i did 28 41 well i did a mile in eight minutes that was a huge pr dude you run fast thanks dude yeah that's what mark had told me i was like really well i had to kind of slow him down yeah i mean you were gonna conk out anyway of course i just like you just kind of naturally run fairly fast also i think you like over time if you really like like right like i think you'll like it but you have a good body weight and a good amount of muscle where like you can be good without even sacrificing a lot of muscle because your body weight's not you're not crazy heavy
Starting point is 01:31:22 you're not light you're like 180 185 yeah but you're not crazy heavy. You're not light. You're like 180, 185. But you're not crazy heavy. Makes sense. You need to be swift. I think you get to running really fucking fast. I think you could. Because your strength to weight ratio is good. I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:39 That could be fun. Same, I have big asses. It makes it a little more challenging. You guys are towing trucks back there. One of the only few white men that might have a bigger ass than me you remember your bodybuilding show dog oh my god i wish we could pull a lot of pictures of that ass oh my god everyone was talking about it when you stepped on stage two in your blue trunks like your ass was fat like that's a huge butt man i never i never felt so like uh like such a piece of meat when i walked into like the girls thing because like i don't know honey told me i need like different oil or something and look at that just he's like
Starting point is 01:32:17 oh you gotta walk in there and the girls go oh my god they're like what did you do for your ass dude yeah that's a lot of glue wow that is a lot of glue do you have an even better picture i should just walked backwards on stage oh yeah yeah there's some butt ones there you go dude yeah pull that up look at that ass that's a that's and you're covering it too like yeah usually they they don't cover they hike up their trunks yeah but you dog wagon it's a good way to uh not have them judge the rest of your physique they just look at your ass especially in bodybuilding did we say all the stuff we're supposed to say is it my turn it's your turn yeah i'm at mark smelly bell strength is never weakness
Starting point is 01:33:01 weakness never strength catch you guys later bye

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