Mark Bell's Power Project - This Habit is Making You FAT || MBPP Ep. 913

Episode Date: April 3, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Intermittent fasting where you restrict your eating to certain times has really become a pretty popular health trend in recent years. But a new study is asking whether going hungry could be the key to a healthier and even longer life. What if I told you it is more important when you eat than what you eat? Mark Bell is a big power lifter. He goes, you know when you're hungry and you're like, I need a snack? He's like, what are you, six? Not eating my first breakfast felt really weird. Your general feeling of hunger isn't necessarily that bad and you're when you're hungry and you're like, I need a snack? He's like, what are you, six? Not eating my first breakfast felt really weird. Your general feeling of hunger isn't necessarily that bad and you're not really that hungry. You haven't found the right plan yet or haven't been doing it long enough. Like something's not really calculated right.
Starting point is 00:00:34 I think the key is to, but somebody might see that and be like, that looks like an eating disorder. Yeah, so, you know, how we came across is Sam was watching Two Bears. And then she's like, and SEMA! I was like, what? It's like, 2215. Two Bears. With Chris DiStefano. Mark was mentioned.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Damn. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was mentioned by Tom Segura. Segura. Who's looking super. Yeah, he's doing great. Dude, can you pull up a picture from his first special?
Starting point is 00:01:10 Oh, man. Yeah, yeah. Hold on. Let me get out of here. Tommy Buns. Yeah. Yeah, man. This dude, he looks younger.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Oh, dude, he looks so much healthier. Oh, my God. Yeah, man. Whoa. I haven't seen this image though. What the fuck? Why is it so big? Whoa.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Oh my God. You don't want to make eye contact. Why is it so gigantor? Because, oh, that's why. There we go. Wow.
Starting point is 00:01:39 The way people can transform dog. Holy shit. If you guys are just listening, this is, yeah, it really looks like a completely different person he does and a bald head it doesn't good picture if he was bald here though i mean it's not helpful he's like kind of in the middle of making a kind of a weird face yeah no it's a very uh it's yeah they did this on purpose. Wow. Man, he's made some huge changes.
Starting point is 00:02:10 He's probably like, thanks, guys. Congratulations to him, man. I know that he's been doing, you've been helping him out, and he's been doing a lot of shit, and he looks amazing. Yeah, he's made some massive changes. All right. And so, but he looks great. But this fasting stuff, what I said to myself was, just stay in this eating window. Just stay in this eating window for now, for the first couple of weeks, and try to take a food away a week.
Starting point is 00:02:37 But just the first goal is just stay in the window. And what I started to realize was after like drinking, you know, I watched this documentary once. It said the human body can survive 30 days without food yeah so this idea that i have it's ridiculous it's in your mind you're so i just know what mark bell told me mark bell is a big power lifter yeah yeah he's like when i told him i was like yeah you know i want to drop weight and everything he goes he's giving me all this like different advice. And one of the things he says to me, he goes, by the way,
Starting point is 00:03:07 you know, when you're hungry and you're like, I need a snack. He's like, what are you six? It's like kids, like little kindergartners. They have a snack.
Starting point is 00:03:16 You don't always need a snack. Right. If you're hungry and you think I need a snack, just wait. Yeah. You're not, you're not a little child. It was like a snack time.
Starting point is 00:03:23 It's yeah. And you're like, yeah, it's true. Yeah. Because, and, and even guy, I got Mark Bell, like a power lif little child who's like, it's snack time. Yeah. And you're like, yeah. It's true. Yeah. Because, and even guy, I got Mark Bell, like a power lifter. He's probably, he's eating like a lot. He's probably eating in a smaller window too.
Starting point is 00:03:32 He's not eating all day. No, he's not like, no, he's not pigging out all day. Right. So, so, so I said. Eating with purpose, right? So it's like knowing, knowing I want to get this much protein in. So he's making six eggs. Right. And, but it's eating when he, when it's time knowing knowing i want to get this much protein in so he's making six eggs right and but it's eating when he when it's time to eat yeah but eating not mindlessly eating yeah so so
Starting point is 00:03:51 so what i yeah it's uh you know i i'm glad i'm glad that he uh had some good take-home messages from some of the stuff i've been communicating with him and uh you know i i grew up with snacks i grew up just kind of eating all day and and eating junk you know eating oreo cookies and chips and i remember eating i think like a bag of doritos almost every day what for like a while when i was a kid i was probably like 14 or something like it was one of those yeah lunch no i would eat it with my friend but it was a big bag like not a family size bag it was a big ass bag of doritos wait which friend do you remember this friend that you ate a bag of doritos his name is danny burke daniel burke lived down the street from me
Starting point is 00:04:34 i was like i don't know i play football i'm doing sports and stuff like it doesn't matter you know doritos are fucking good though they are they. Quick question, guys and people in the audience. What would you say is the best chip? Let's really think about this. They're Doritos. Pringles are fucking good. Yeah, Pringles are delicious. They melt in your mouth.
Starting point is 00:04:58 You know what's interesting? It's like a Frito only has like three ingredients somehow. Fritos are pretty good. Corn. Yeah, salt and I forget what the other thing is. It's oil, I guess. It only has like three ingredients somehow. Fritos are pretty good. Corn. Yeah, salt and I forget what the other thing is, but it's oil, I guess. Yeah. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Fritos. But they don't taste good. Good. Okay, I was going to say that. I'm a fan. They're pretty good for like a dip. There you go. Yeah, they're good for like a dip. Cheetos, hot or classic?
Starting point is 00:05:21 Hot Cheetos, I think, are also up there. They're good. Do you like Flamin' Hot Cheetos? I like Hot Cheetos a lot. do you like flaming hot i like hot cheetos a lot do you guys like hot fries i don't know if i've had that is that mexican no it's not oh okay okay you said it in english is that may you come no dude they're uh i don't know they taste different they're not just like hot cheetos they have like a different something that you hot fries yeah i'll
Starting point is 00:05:46 pull it up right now but you cannot have you literally can't have one like you have to eat the whole fucking bat like i'll pull it up right now hold on they are from the same company like cheetos trying to think about what he's talking about i don't think i know i don't think they kind of like uh they kind of disappear when you're eating them? Kind of. Maybe I do know what they are. These are hot fries. Oh. These are hot fries, dude. If you guys can't see this.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I like hot fries. All this stuff that gets your hands all orangey is fucking great. Honestly, that prevents me from eating them because I think about that. I'm like, I don't want to have to touch it. So I'll try to like throw the whole bag up and then it just falls on my beard. You know what's an underrated chip is a Cheez-It. Those are really good. That's not underrated, though.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Cheez-Its aren't underrated. They're popular, but I don't think they fall into a regular chip category. You're right. They're kind of crackery, I guess, but they are delicious. I had a bit of a... This is not fair to Encima, but I'll say like an Encima moment because when you guys hear what I kind of went crazy on, you're going to be like, really? Like that seems kind of bland because like when I take it about Raisin Bran, we're like,
Starting point is 00:06:57 come on, dude. Like have something... Crunch, Raisin Bran. Crunch. I know, I know. Get it right. That's the fun part is like really Raisin Bran? But it was a little bit of that plus like the juice situation uh there was just a a whole row of saltine crackers and i was like i
Starting point is 00:07:11 was kind of hungry and my stomach was like feeling a little bit upset there's plain saltine crackers i had one i was like oh that was damn that's pretty good let me get another one walked away i came back and i the whole fucking the whole like row of it and i was like what the hell just happened like let me see what calorically like what this is and it was like for like five like 170 calories or something i was like oh that's a waste wow i ate so much like oh my gosh and i'm like this is what you know like the juice situation where it's like oh i should have just not had it. But it happened.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And I was like, damn. Those are the crackers you eat when you're sick, right? Yes. Like the saltines. It was supposed to soak things up, right? Yeah. It was one of those things where we talked about on Saturday school. We're like, the diet's not working if you come home and you're fucking face first in a row of saltine crackers. I was like, what the hell, dude?
Starting point is 00:08:02 I was hungry. I was getting ready to make some steak. And I was just like, oh, had one. I was like, what the hell, dude? I was hungry. I was getting ready to make some steak and I was just like, oh, had one. I was like, damn. How did we get another one
Starting point is 00:08:11 and it just kept going? What about potato chip? Like, what's your favorite potato chip? Like, you mentioned Pringles, but like, what about other potato chips?
Starting point is 00:08:18 What about like, laser trash? Laser trash. Like, Ruffles? Ruffles are better than laser. Yeah. Like, French onion Ruffles, pretty that the other one? Ruffles are better than Lay's. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Like French onion Ruffles, pretty good. Those, I've had those. What's the orange one? Like a cheese? Like cheddar cheese one? I think it might be cheddar cheese. Those are delicious. It's a little bit too much. Then there's...
Starting point is 00:08:38 Barbecue's good. What about like salt and vinegar? Like salt and vinegar deli chips? Those are really good. Kettle cooked? Kettle, yeah, yeah. That's the one, dude. Kettle cooked is so good.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Have you ever had the kettle jalapeno chip in the green bag? I don't think I've had that before. Kettle cooked jalapeno chips? That sounds really good, though. You can easily mow down just a plain ass tortilla chip, but have you had the tortilla chips that are like green because they're like avocado or some shit like that? I have. Those are good.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Those are good. Man, my mouth is watering. Real quick though. Beck, are we putting Doritos as number one? I think out of like – Man, that's hard to argue. There's just so much going on on a Dorito that you can't – just regular old school Doritos.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Yeah. And the color, they do that on purpose. I don't like the ranch one as much. The cool ranch, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like it, but I don't like it as much. It's not nearly as good as OG. No. They have one that they put like a ranch one as much. The cool ranch? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like it, but I don't like it as much. It's not nearly as good as OG. No. They have one that they put a lot of stuff on.
Starting point is 00:09:29 It's super red, and it's like they put extra stuff on it. It's like an extra punch of the same Dorito flavor. Yeah, they'll throw a couple of those in the bag. Oh, fuck. Those are the best. Doritos were a big part of my weight gain back in the day. Really? When I was 3.30.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Yeah. They were really helpful. Me and Jesse Burdick, we would mow down some Doritos. It helped a lot. I can see you guys with your fucking moon-shaped heads. It's unrecognizable what a fucking Dorito is. It's just some chemically charged something or other that tastes amazing. It'll get you big.
Starting point is 00:10:03 It's anabolic. It is. Even though we love these chips, chips yo we don't eat them no right no you can't i think you know we've talked so many times on this show about fasting and i i think uh what i what i've come to discover is like it's not necessarily about like fasting. It's not necessarily about eating in a particular small window, although that might be super effective for somebody. What I think nutrition is about for some people that are really stuck and some people have had a lot of hardship when it comes to trying to figure it out a diet, maybe somebody that's obese. I think the key is to have black and white lines so that they know this is what I'm supposed to do. This is what I'm not supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:10:46 And the stuff that I'm not supposed to do, it can happen. And it's okay if it happens. But I need to get back to what I'm supposed to do. And for some other people, they can kind of toggle back and forth between what they're, quote, unquote, not supposed to do and what they're supposed to do. And it's of no consequence because maybe they have a lot of lifestyle habits that allow for a little bit more breathing room with the diet. But somebody who's 50 pounds overweight or a hundred pounds overweight, you got to probably start to draw some lines in the sand. And one line that I decided to draw a while back was to get rid of snacks. And that was just the easiest thing. I, at the time, even when I was at my heaviest, I never drank sugary drinks. I was never into, I mean,
Starting point is 00:11:32 every once in a while, I guess I might get like a milkshake from like a fast food place or something like that, but I would never drink calories except for from like a protein shake. So I was never into like just regular soda. So then the only other move that I could make, that's just a real simple one, was to get rid of something like snacks and to really concentrate on the meals. And then from there, the next thing that I worked on was trying to make sure that the meals had things in them
Starting point is 00:11:59 or there was things in the meal that would encourage me to stay on my diet. And one of those main things is protein. So I don't think you really have much of, I think as Nsema has put it before, meals at meals. I don't really think you have much of a meal unless you have about 30 grams of protein. And if you don't have about 30 grams of protein, it's not a meal. And if it doesn't have 30 grams of protein, it's probably something that would be more in a category of a snack. And I don't think that people should be snacking because the only people that normally snack are young kids that move around a ton and fucking run around all day, every day, and expend a lot of energy. So if you're not cruising around all day and running
Starting point is 00:12:41 around all day and spending a lot of energy, you probably don't have a lot of business eating a bunch of snacks all the time. I'm not sure if it was Chris DiStefano, which is that other comedian, or if it was Tom who mentioned eating intentionally. But that's kind of the way you need to look at your habits when it comes to eating food. Are you eating because you're truly hungry? Are you eating because you truly need to eat at the moment in time? And maybe ask yourself, how long has it been since you like maybe have just gone a few hours of the day without eating food? Do you know what that feels like? Because when people initially pick up the habit of fasting, I know I remember exactly how I felt. Like when I first started and
Starting point is 00:13:17 I tried to go off the deep end a little bit. So I was like, okay, I'm going to aim for 20 hours. Mainly got 16, but not eating my first breakfast felt really weird because it's something that I never – I always ate in the morning. And I felt like super hungry in the afternoon. But a few days, it didn't feel as so abnormal. I didn't feel nearly as hungry. And after a few weeks, I realized like, huh, I'm actually not that hungry. I actually just have a habit of eating at a certain time. I think it's really cool too how like in the fitness side of things, you still have – you have a lot of people who kind of talk about how maybe unnecessary time-restricted feeding or intermittent fasting is and how like, oh, it's just a gimmick, blah, blah, blah. gimmick, blah, blah, blah. But then you have people that are putting into practice and realizing how useful it can be to eat intentionally at certain parts of the day and not eat at certain parts of
Starting point is 00:14:10 the day and how helpful that is towards sticking to whatever diet you're trying to stick to. I think what we're looking at is mainly just trying to manage calories. So if you're trying to really manage your calories and if you're trying to have a better body, then a great way to manage your calories is to do a little bit of fasting, especially for people that kind of like to eat. People that really enjoy eating. You know, I really like to eat. So what's a snack going to really do for me other than just make me hungrier? Can I tell you something real quick? Don't forget.
Starting point is 00:14:42 What's a snack going to do other than make you hungry? Do not forget that training thought. After the tournament, right, when I came back to the hotel room, I was kind of sad because I got second place. Anyway, I was like, let me enjoy this a little bit. So let me get myself some Simply Lemonade 52-ounce watermelon juice. Right? I got that. That's like his 40, right right it's in a brown paper bag
Starting point is 00:15:08 also so i got that shit door dashed so i was in my airbnb with a simply lemonade 52 ounce watermelon juice i also got this calzonish pizza oh yeah Hell yeah. It was so big that I didn't finish it. I only ate like four or five slices. But, dog, I woke up the next morning. I was 258 with no ankles. Oh, my God. I had no ankles. I put my feet on the floor.
Starting point is 00:15:39 I was like, oh, that hurts. I was so bloated. I was like walking around like, oh God, this is what sugar does to you. I realized this is why I don't do this. But see, juice, just don't fuck with juice, people. That amount of sugar will fuck you.
Starting point is 00:15:56 We need rules. We do need rules. We need some fucking restriction. And what I was saying earlier about the snack is like if you look at the snack and think about it it might be something you enjoy and there's there should always be room for that like if you if you have an exercise routine that you're doing religiously and you're on a diet and stuff and you can't just enjoy a snack here and there just to kind of say fuck it then you you
Starting point is 00:16:21 haven't found the right plan yet or haven't been doing it long enough. Like something's not really calculated right. I think you should be able to enjoy those things. However, what's the thing going to actually do for your hunger? Like if you want to just enjoy it, that's again, that's a side thing. But if you are going to eat it thinking it's going to do anything to like curb your appetite or to do anything to help advance your current nutrition, it's not going to do anything. It's, it's, uh, even if it's something that's kind of innocent, like it's just like a bagel or something like it's really most likely not going to really fill you up that much. And I
Starting point is 00:16:54 would rather see people make decisions, uh, based on things having more protein in them. So even something like something I think could be really beneficial and helpful to a lot of people. I do think that fasting has a lot of merit because over time fasting can make you more comfortable with being hungry, which I think is very safe and very healthy to a certain extent. And people should be able to go three or four hours during the day with no food and have it have no negative impact on like their body, their blood sugar, their mood. They should be able to get used to that over time. It might take a few weeks if you have never practiced that before. Most people aren't eating in the middle of the night. So a lot of people are fasted when they wake up. But I think it's important to get used to hunger. And what you'll notice is that they've have, I've seen reports of this before, where they show like
Starting point is 00:17:52 your blood sugar and they show your hunger and things like that. Your hunger moves around throughout the day, regardless of food. So even if you, whether you eat or you don't eat, if you eat at 8am, 10am, your hunger is going to be up here. It's going to be high. If you, if whether you eat or not, your, your hunger is still going to be high at 10am, most likely for most people. There are strategies. There's things like protein leveraging. You could eat a bunch of protein and it might help you stay fuller for longer. There's coffee and things things like that that can kind of assist you through that process but if you kind of get that in your head like whether i eat or don't eat around 10 or 11 a.m i'm probably gonna be fucking hungry anyway so it's just a normal pain that you normally deal with anyway see if
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Starting point is 00:19:02 And if your order is $150 or more, you get free two-day shipping. Links to them down in the description as well as the podcast show notes. I do really like that. I like the idea of building your tolerance, right? Because I know that when we started fasting years ago, tolerance to hunger wasn't great, which is why we were great at getting heavier
Starting point is 00:19:23 because it's like, I'm just going to always eat. So initially when starting fasting, tolerance to feeling a little bit hungrier than usual was not good. But over time, your tolerance to that feeling of – first off, you understand that your general feeling of hunger isn't necessarily that bad and you're not really that hungry. You're just like used to grabbing something. You're bored. You got nothing. You feel like maybe you need grabbing something when you're bored, got nothing. You feel like maybe you need to get some calories in. It's habit, right? But over time, like now,
Starting point is 00:19:51 all of us here, we could go a full day here podcasting and doing shit and working out and go home and eat some like one or two big meals and we're fine. And on other days, I know that all of us here, we adjust. On certain days, we do eat in the morning, you know, and that's fine too. But initially, if you're trying to build this habit, understand that you're not going to be able to, it won't feel like it's great initially. Right. And one thing that would help you too is in the morning, maybe instead of reaching for food immediately or having that habit, if you want to start trying to build fasting into the habit of something you do, you know, get some water and electrolytes.
Starting point is 00:20:28 And yeah, like you said, coffee is a good appetite suppress in the morning, but drink some water, get some electrolytes in, because that's something that will help you out and help you not feel as hungry so much during the day. Yeah, and also I think when you make the decision to fast, like I'm going to fast, I'm going to try this thing that they've been talking about on the podcast. It's sort of like a, uh, like when you get a mosquito bite, like, oh shit, I got a bite. I didn't even notice it. You notice it. And now all of a sudden your arm is itching nonstop.
Starting point is 00:20:59 So I think, I think that when people's people are not used to fasting and then they make the decision, then now all they think about is how they didn't eat and that makes them hungry. And so one of the things that Mark talks about is occupy your mind. So like literally just take your mind elsewhere. Go do something else. Go on a walk. Do something to get your mind off of eating because, you know, like you said, you're going to get hungry anyways.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Whether you ate or not, let's try to just, you know, skip breakfast and see how you can do when you don't think about food all day. Try to push your hunger off a little bit to a certain time of day. Maybe you know that you have a doctor's appointment or something and it's at like 11. We'll see if you can just, all right, I'm going to try to survive until that time. And I'm going to eat afterwards. Over time, you'll get more and more used to it. And you'll be able to fast for longer periods of time. But I don't really think there's a reason to get too caught up with like how long you fast. I think I practiced that enough to learn that for myself where I don't think it matters that much.
Starting point is 00:22:00 In terms of like whether it's 16 hours or 12 hours or 10 hours. Just a couple hours. Just a couple waking hours of fasting, I think works really, really well. Just maybe not eating two hours before bed and not eating two or three hours after I get up in the morning. That seems to be really, really effective. How many hours is that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Do the math. Eight hours sleeping plus a couple hours on the front and back end of that. Maybe it's like 12 hours. I think that's I don't know. Do the math. Eight hours sleeping plus a couple hours on the front and back end of that. Maybe it's like 12 hours. I think that's pretty easy to do. And we've like done some math on the show before where we talked about, you know, if you were to do that every day, have 12 hours of fasting, I mean, you know, two days turns into a full day of fasting, right? So you start to add that up over the course of a month and over the course of a year, you're spending a lot of time not eating, which might be a really good idea for somebody that's overweight. And then also, you know how like your phone has the amount of times you've picked up your phone to look at an app each day, kind of maybe treat your food like that. So you
Starting point is 00:23:02 actually gave me, what was that snack that we just had? Oh, I just gave you some mackerel. It's mackerel from- Yeah, it's fish, Wild Planet. Wild Planet, right? It was a bunch of protein, a little bit of fat, and it was literally just fish, right? So I wouldn't actually even, I wouldn't call that a snack, even though it kind of was a little snack we had before podcasting, but it's not like going and having some chips
Starting point is 00:23:23 or grazing throughout the day and eating things. Like 20 grams of protein. 20 grams of protein. But maybe treat food kind of like that. Like have, okay, I'm going to pick up food three times today or four times today. I'm going to have four food pickups. Maybe two of those are meals. Make it mean something.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Make it mean something. Maybe two of those are meals. One of them's a protein snack. Maybe one of them's a protein shake, right? But you're intentional when you're eating something. It's not, I think that's a strong habit to build, the habit of making sure that when you eat, it's actually meaningful and it's doing something.
Starting point is 00:23:57 It's not just something that you're continuously doing because you feel a little bit uncomfortable. You feel a bit hungry. You feel a bit stressed. The response to getting some food is sometimes for some people is a response to just feel a little bit better. You know, just feel some pleasure. Feel a dopamine release from those fucking Oreos, which are so good. Right?
Starting point is 00:24:17 But that's helpful. And we've talked about this before, though. Don't keep it in the house. You know, the reason why I don't have Oreos in the house is because I will go through three sleeves. No, truly, truly. If it was in the house, I'm going to go through three sleeves. Oreos are good.
Starting point is 00:24:31 But it's not there. So there's already a barrier for trying to go get some of those foods. That is really a big deal. So whether you're at the office, you can guard your office space or whatever. But truly when you're at home, keep the things around
Starting point is 00:24:45 you that you know you should be eating and if you really end up wanting to get those oreos then now you have to go to the store and get it but it's not just there waiting for you you have better options yeah i like what you said about uh it might sound different for people to like have your like limit on picking up food but like for me that's how i would actually um describe like a pretty good eating day like i'm not gonna track how many hours i'm fasting but i know i'm gonna have two legit meals i'm too legit two actual solid meals and then there's gonna be two other times where i will have something much smaller like after this i'll probably have a rise bar because mark you gave me one yesterday and that thing is incredible. And I'm a huge fan
Starting point is 00:25:28 of those, like 20 grams of protein and it's just a honey and almond butter or something like that. Fantastic. Yeah. I'm going to have that. And then I'm going to go home and eat dinner because I already ate breakfast. I had a bunch of eggs. I'm going to eat steak. And then after that, I'll probably have like a protein shake or something. So total four times I'm going to pick up food. I don't know how long I fasted. Even like I said, I ate breakfast, but I fast kind of somewhere in the middle. But overall, like if the goal is to try to like put like somewhat of a suppressor on the calorie intake, I think if I just eat four times today, I will be successful in
Starting point is 00:26:03 that, you know, venture without having to really track anything or worry, have like, just, it's kind of foolproof. I really dig that. Keep in mind, Tom Segura lost like 50 pounds. Dude, he looks crazy. That's a lot of weight. Kept it off too. Yeah. And he's keeping it off and it just, who knows, like everyone goes up and down a little bit. Maybe he'll have moments where he's not at uh in as good of shape as he is at the moment but like the most i could ever see him gaining his back is like another 10 pounds just from having like you know everyone has slip-ups here and there but it seems like he's really locked into what he's doing and the way that you get locked into what you're doing
Starting point is 00:26:40 is by you're gonna have toutions. So you can't just say like, I'm just going to fast. There has to be other things that are in there with fasting. You know, luckily, uh, when Tom and I talked, he's already, you know, he already has a trainer. He's already lifting. He's already, he was already, uh, doing some walks and now he's like running and lifting, but you're going to have to find shit that occupies a lot of your time because not eating can drive you kind of crazy. So with fasting, you have to kind of keep in mind, I think it's best to do it on days that you're busier, days that you think are going to be harder and they're not like maybe a ton physically demanding. I would say that those would be the days that you would actually probably want to try to fast and you might feel yourself kind of like, I remember when I was fasting a lot, when
Starting point is 00:27:31 we would go out and do different projects and we would film different things. Like I felt amazing when we would do that. Meanwhile, the rest of the crew was usually like tired and they were like, wanted to know where we're going for food. I'm like, we're not going for food. We're fucking, we're going straight through. And then everyone kind of realized like, shit, if I travel with him, I we're going for food. I'm like, we're not going for food. We're fucking, we're going straight through. And then everyone kind of realized like, shit, if I travel with him, I better bring my own food.
Starting point is 00:27:49 We got blindsided. He ain't eating. I tried to let everybody know, but I don't think they knew, you know. No, we didn't get the message. I don't think they knew, knew. That is a good thing though. Like if you do pick up the habit of intermittent fasting, you're going to have to maybe build some of intermittent fasting um you're gonna have to maybe build some other habits you're gonna have to build some other habits of how you can occupy yourself when maybe you have that instinctual time when you usually grab a snack what are you doing
Starting point is 00:28:15 instead what what else can you occupy yourself with because there's usually there's probably other things you could be doing or should be doing or maybe you can just go take a walk right because we all know you're walking as a stress relief. When we can't think of things, or when we feel kind of stuck, instead of grabbing a snack and chilling and eating, we'll just go on a walk, right? Move, move, right? So that's a really beneficial thing. And it's something that takes some time. There's going to be some discomfort involved in not eating. But after time, it's a non-factor. It's not something that we talk about all the time, fasting, but it's something that is a habit for us now.
Starting point is 00:28:52 And it's just something that we do. It's not difficult at all. I do think that if you are going to snack, that you try to make sure that your snacks are real food, which puts you in a real bind because it's actually really difficult to find. It's really difficult to have like kind of real food as a snack. It's like not as convenient. But you could have cheese. People do quite a bit. Fruit, yogurt.
Starting point is 00:29:21 There's all kinds of different options if you're – Those wild planet things. Again, those are great. It's so simple. Yeah. So simple. The carniv things, again, those are great. It's so simple. So simple. The carnivore crisps, those are great. You guys see me all the time walking around here with a meat bag. I just take a bunch of carnivore crisps and I dump them in a Ziploc bag and walk around with those.
Starting point is 00:29:37 They're pricey. They're expensive. But there's also like Kai's bars, Rye's bars. There are protein bars nowadays that taste good but again you would be best off with having a meal because the meal is going to uh be something that's going to be help be satiating to help keep your hunger down i just want to kind of end with one final thing and you guys can maybe add add to this uh What do you think are some things people can do to really help curb their hunger? Because like there's a couple times a day that I think are
Starting point is 00:30:11 really, really problematic for people. And one time a day is lunchtime. And another time a day that people run into a lot of trouble is right when they come home from work. I think sometimes even later than work because then they want to eat something sweet. But let's kind of deal with those two, like lunchtime and right when they get home from work. What do you guys think would be some good strategies someone could use to, I don't know, help change some of that? I think if, because for fasting, you don't need to not eat all day. If you want to eat a meal at lunch, eat a meal that's going to be something that actually fills you up, actually makes you feel satisfied. And if you can take some steak to work, take some ground beef and something else that will actually make you feel full at that meal, I think that would be beneficial. If you want fattier cuts, we've been utilizing better fed beef.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Better fed beef is like – they have a lot of different cuts. But unlike Piedmontese, they're a lot fattier. So they're like your classic steaks and if you want – That ribeye from them is unbelievable. Yeah, yeah. And the Piedmontese stuff, it's really good. It just doesn't have as much fat. So if you can try to eat a meal that is nutrient-dense, that's going to be something that can truly
Starting point is 00:31:26 hold you over until evening time. Whereas, I mean, I know like if I ate some apples or not some apples, but like just some fruit and like carbohydrates, not that they're bad, but it wouldn't be something that curbs my hunger a lot. It's not going to make a dent. That's why, like for example, you mentioned a bunch of things but you you mentioned have protein with the meal if you can have substantial protein with whatever meal you're eating whether it's rice and fucking ground beef or rice and steak or whatever if you have some protein with that meal you'll feel full but if you don't then a few hours later or a little bit later you're like i'm super hungry again so every single meal like i have a bunch of eggs or something like you andrew you're the king of eggs, like I have a bunch of eggs or something,
Starting point is 00:32:07 like you, Andrew, you're the king of eggs, right? But I have a bunch of eggs or I have protein or something so that when I finish that meal, I'm like, okay, I'm good. I can go without thinking of food for a while. I think a protein shake is great to have on hand. So if you have any way of keeping protein powder around or a shaker cup or something where you have access, because I think a lot of times on the way home from work, you know, people, they start thinking about the food they're going to eat and they're, you get excited to eat, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:32 to eat when you get home from work. I know for myself, I'll like be cooking and like eating at the same time. It's just like, it's not the greatest habit to be doing that kind of stuff all the time. So something that would help me is to have like a protein shake while I'm here. And then, you know, I drive home and it's like, you know, 30 minutes by the time I get home, I'm at least not as like ravenous.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I can make better decisions. I can be a little bit calmer rather than just diving into the cabinet and eating everything that's in there. Let me ask y'all something real quick, because this is something that I've been doing with my protein shakes that has been like, I don't need fucking Ben and Jerry's anymore. into the cabinet and eating everything that's in there. Let me ask y'all something real quick because this is something that I've been doing with my protein shakes that has been like, I don't need fucking Ben and Jerry's anymore.
Starting point is 00:33:09 And y'all know what carnation malted milk is? I do. The powder? Yeah. Yeah. So I'll make a protein shake and I'll put some carnation malted milk in there because protein shake's good. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:33:23 It'll thicken it up. It'll thicken it up. But within your protein vanilla protein shake is good. Don't get me wrong. It'll thicken it up. It'll thicken it up. But within your protein, vanilla, really fucking good. But you add some carnation malted milk in that, whether you're using water for that protein shake or I use milk. You add carnation malted milk in there, bro. Is it like one of these? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Yeah, yeah. That powder. I don't need ice cream. And I know I sound like I sound weird, but like. You sound like a weird fitness freak. That's stuff. So there's people that are doing stuff like this. There's people that are taking sometimes yogurt.
Starting point is 00:33:49 You have to play around with the type of yogurt that you use. People are throwing yogurt into their protein shakes and then putting it in the freezer, kind of turning it into like an ice cream. I've been kind of messing around with that for a while. And then I saw more recently people are using cottage cheese, which I haven't actually really tried, but it actually kind of makes sense with the consistency. At first, it kind of sounds gross, but you're like, no, it actually kind of makes sense because cottage
Starting point is 00:34:14 cheese is kind of salty. But there's a lot of different options out there. If you kind of put your mind to it, you could start to figure some of these things out where you could have way better options than what you used to have. What's up, Power Project family? It's time to stop dressing like you're a f***ing preschooler and step your game up by checking out Viore clothing. Now, I'm not one to talk. I wear a f***ing pink hat that has a dog on it. But at
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Starting point is 00:34:55 Yeah, I was going to say protein shake, but like the Fairlife protein because it's super delicious. It's nice and thick. Basically, it's like a dessert. But the other day, I think it was a Friday. So jujitsu in the morning, podcasting here, you know, traditional day. But I was like,
Starting point is 00:35:11 hey, let's go to In-N-Out because I'm freaking hungry. I'm going to get like six flying Dutchman. Like I'm starving. Wasn't actually starving, right? But that's the verbiage that we tend to use. It's like, dude, you're not starving. But was very hungry and i had a um the fair life protein on the way to in and out which is not very far so it was basically right before the meal i got there and i'm like i'm not that hungry anymore but i'm still gonna get five i got five and i only got through four because i was completely stuffed and keep in mind i eat five without really trying like that's just normal i only got through four and i was like whoa like i was kind of upset because i'm like damn i ordered too much Like that's just normal. I only got through four and I was like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Like I was kind of upset because I'm like, damn, I ordered too much. Like that's a waste. But I was also pretty pumped because I'm like, dude, that protein shake
Starting point is 00:35:53 just totally crushed that hunger. It's like jerking off before a date, right? Yeah. Yeah. You can think clearer. Get it out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:01 You don't want to go out with a loaded weapon. That's so true, man. Yeah. But, yeah. Oh, go ahead. I just wanted to ask you guys, I know we're trying to wrap things up, but a lot of people will use the word disorder when we talk about fasting
Starting point is 00:36:15 because yesterday I, so I had that Rise bar, but that's all I had. I didn't eat breakfast. So when I got home, I live in a really cool like location to where like I can smell uh black bear diner and when I say cool I mean it's cool when you're wanting to go get it not cool when you're trying not to go get it but I you know walked inside I'm like I was like I really want a hamburger from black bear diner it's like I haven't eaten today like officially eaten I think we'll be okay. But that's all I ate the entire day.
Starting point is 00:36:47 And the meal that I got was Bob's Big Bear Burger with an extra patty. And it was gigantic and I couldn't finish the fries because I was so stuffed. But that's all I ate the entire day. I'm trying to think I did have more protein towards the end of the day in the form of a shake. But somebody might see that and be like,
Starting point is 00:37:04 oh, you didn't eat the entire day so you could stuff your face with this hamburger. That looks like an eating disorder. That's stupid, though. It's one hamburger and a little thing. So can you please explain why that's not? Because I just know people will be like, oh, that seems like it's a terrible habit to have. Well, something like 8 to 10 ounces of meat in a day is like, that's, I mean, you're
Starting point is 00:37:27 not going to end up with malnutrition for a long time if that's what you ate every day. Even if that was the only thing you ate and you sound like you had a little bit more than that and you had, so I think that that's, uh, it's plenty of nutrition. But also I think, uh, the eating disorder that we have here in the United States, like medical issues aside, you know, people that under-eat and things like that, the main disorder that we have is people tend to overeat. They have an unhealthy relationship with food and people just, they literally kind of eat all day, graze all day.
Starting point is 00:38:02 They're consuming calories all day through liquid and through different foods. And so that is the thing that most people need to try to figure out a way to combat. And this is the adjustment. The adjustment is to let's set up like a fasting window. And again, you don't necessarily need a fasting window, but you do need to figure out a way. How can I – what's the best way for me to attack this moving forward? The best way for you to attack being overweight is to try to figure out a way to deal with hunger a lot easier. Hunger and cravings are the reason why every single diet fails. It's the reason why anyone would fail on a diet or
Starting point is 00:38:43 for those two reasons. So try your best to figure out what's going to help you negotiate that corner the best. And in my opinion, I think fasting plays a huge role in that. You know, damn, dude. I'm so tired of like what these motherfuckers that are eating all day and they're like oh you need your four square meals and just you know you always feed yourself keep yourself thin i'm so tired i don't give a fuck about what they think because the thing is is that things that we see as normal here in the united states and things that we've been taught are normal are really abnormal and just make people fucking soft not eating for a few hours gets you mad and angry and gets you feeling uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:39:26 And I know we, what was Jay Feldman? I like his messaging, but again, just like this, oh, you know, this fear of feeling a little bit hungrier, that's not good, or a little bit of discomfort. It's so fucking soft. I was going through the airport the other day and I had my sandals on, right? My toes were out.
Starting point is 00:39:44 The amount of people that were looking at my feet and were like, what? Or like looking at me weird because I was walking with barefoot sandals on. I can understand why that would make somebody uncomfortable wearing that shit. But then when I see people walk around with their fucking duck feet and they're getting all fucked up because they want to wear their J's and they want to look all cool. I'm like, I know what the fuck's going on with you. And it's just because you want to fit in and do what everybody else is doing. I don't give a fuck about what everybody else is doing anymore. If you got people in your life that are saying, oh, your fasting is an eating disorder, you're probably going to be the healthier one.
Starting point is 00:40:13 And they're probably not going to be. And it's just because you're doing things differently. You're living a better life. You're trying to be healthier. And you're not going by what everybody thinks is cool and right. I get tired of that shit, man. I get tired of it. We're looked at as really weird for some of this shit.
Starting point is 00:40:28 That's not that abnormal, but it's just because we choose not to live the average American lifestyle. We want to be better. So if people are telling you that shit, just fucking ignore them. Let them do their thing. Let them feed themselves all day long when they feel a little bit hungry and they want to eat something. Let them put the chin in their mouths.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Just go on and just get stronger. Be okay with it. It's fine. It's fine. Take us on out of here, Andrew. All right. Thank you, everybody, for checking out today's episode. We recently did a really, really cool Saturday School episode talking about some very, very basic, simple, easy diet advice for all athletes of any level.
Starting point is 00:41:03 If you guys want to check that out, it's floating around here somewhere. I don't know exactly how that thing still works, but go check that out after this because that is super helpful. We dive further into this topic as well. Make sure you guys subscribe and hit that like button. Follow the podcast at MBPowerProject all over the place. My Instagram is at IamAndrewZinSima. Where are you at?
Starting point is 00:41:22 Andrew, I did shoot you an email. See if you can pop that up after he does his thing here. What's your favorite chip? Let us know down below. I do think that even though Doritos are at the top of the list, I have a soft spot in my heart for hot Cheetos. Those hot fries. The hot fries are actually really fucking good too.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Those hot fries are actually better than hot Cheetos. I think so. I've had them a few times in my life. I agree. Ooh. Yeah, this is pretty cool. Oh, sorry. We need some shams.
Starting point is 00:41:49 It's the guy from a long-ass time ago talking about fasting. I think the clip's from, yeah, many, many years ago. Lose impurities. Everybody that hear us talking now, tonight when they go to sleep will go on a fast. Once you go to sleep, the body goes on a fast. When you wake up and eat your first meal, we call it breakfast. It's breaking the fast. You can't tell people that they should just start fasting. Well, you know what? When you tell people that, you say, why don't you go home and fast? And they'll go home and say, I heard Dick Gregory. I want to
Starting point is 00:42:16 fast. They say, well, did you check with a doctor? You don't check with a doctor when you do coke. You don't check with a doctor when you do alcohol. Yes. And all the things that I ever did to corrupt my body, I never checked with nobody. Someone asked me the other day, some news station said, you know, you've been fasting for 30 some years. What does your doctor think? My doctor been dead 27 years. Amen. Hey.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Dude, that's so true. Wasn't that great? Dude, when did this come across your feed? You just saved this a while ago or something? Yeah, I just saw it a couple days ago. Yo. That is so good. That's good.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Dick Gregory, let's fucking go. Add Seema Yining on YouTube. Add Seema Yining on TikTok and Twitter. Discord's down below. Mark? I'm at Mark Smelly Bell. Strength is never weakness. Weakness is never strength.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Catch you guys later. Bye.

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