Mark Bell's Power Project - Why The Fitness Industry Doesn't Want YOU Thinking Critically || MBPP Ep. 11011

Episode Date: November 20, 2023

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One person says something's healthy, another person says something's not. The one person says one workout's great, another person says that workout sucks. There's some truth in both. Seems like most people would say like being consistent can be really important. Now, how you do those things is where we get like more inviting. Diet culture, probably more so than anything, is where you really see it. People tend to get mad at each other. I also think there's maybe a little defense because I think that people think they know it.

Lose weight, gain muscle. Sure, we all agree on that. But don't do it the way that guy says because that's not good. Like if you were to type in, is ice cream good for me? You'd probably find some stuff where it would say like, it's not that bad for you. So I think the way that you ask a question can also really shape the answers that get thrown your way. Power Project family, we've had some amazing guests on this podcast like Kurt Engel, Tom Segura, Andrew Hooperman, and we want to be able to have more amazing guests on this podcast. And you can help it grow by leaving us a quick rating and review on Spotify and iTunes. If you're listening to the podcast, just go ahead and give us a review.

Let us know how you dig it and help the podcast grow so we can keep growing with y'all and bring you amazing information. Enjoy the show. You gripping there? Trying to be able to get a better grip on your, you know. Gripping and ripping. Yep. Better grip on life. There we go.

And everybody should have, everybody should have like finger extensors and grippers on their person, you know. I like those ones that you have right now. It's like a really strong trumpet thingy. Oh, yeah. That's a beautiful song. Like, what is it, Squidward? Nah no he's a clarinet player oh clarinet oh yeah yeah he's smooth trying to get the ladies real smooth yeah this is uh pro hands you can get on amazon that's where i got it i really like these ones have you noticed a difference in doing

some of this stuff a hundred percent a hundred percent because like the grip and stuff is stuff you can do every single day. And it's actually funny in the jujitsu program that's coming out, microdosing hand stuff is like a concept. Because some people will program in hand movements. But I think that if you can like, if you have like these cheap ass finger extensors at home or at your office, and you have something like this or even these gripper things or whatever and you're just hitting that each day your hands will you can you can strengthen your hands because if you see people that do jiu-jitsu over a long period of time that don't do anything for the hands like their fingers look so mangled but you can strengthen those things you're you know most people are probably kind of fidgety anyway probably sitting there like fiddling around with your pen cap or something anyway.

So I might as well just like get something like this and it kind of gets you in your little fidget mode anyway. Andrew actually did something really cool with that. So if you flip that around. Yeah, he had it the other way. Yeah. You flip it around like it still has decent resistance, but it's a bit – it's like he mentioned.

I think that one's level three. It's like level 2.5. Yeah. Yeah. It's like level 2.5. Yeah. Yeah. It was smart. I just looked at it biomechanically and the direction of resistance and the biomechanics of the human hand. Multiply it by the foot and the hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And you ended up with something. So you end up actually extending 8,000 pounds per finger. I learned something kind of interesting today. Okay. What'd you learn? I worked out with, oh, well, and that's someone that I used to train a long time ago. I trained him from the time he was a kid. Oh, wow.

He used to, you know, he's one of the original, original ST members. He's from way back. Damn. Okay. And we got a workout today we're pushing the sled and pushing around the tank and stuff like that and i said um i said for some reason i said when i see like dudes that are kind of rough i was like if i see him like on the street guy with tattoo on his neck or someone else is kind of big i was like i get one of these i get like the big guy like kind of head nod thing and he told me what it was for

and it was kind of interesting because i never really thought about it this way he said that uh you know people just recognize other people in certain ways and he just he said they're probably recognizing you as they don't want to fuck with you and they're they're kind of giving you props or like saying respect i might be able to fuck with you but i don't want to find out so they go that's cool and then you do the opposite right when you're trying to like mean no harm when you go past somebody when you're trying to like when you know that the other person might be intimidated or might think a certain thing of you you kind of go past the older person right and kind of do

yeah right i'm not a threat i just thought that was super interesting i was like damn that's pretty cool so it's true or not but yeah so all these years what did you think it was because it's probably happened to you before right i just never knew what it was because i don't know just people a lot of times just kind of ignore each other but i think it's like uh i don't know big dude see big dude and they kind of yeah give him a little heads up game recognize game yeah little what's up yeah no that's uh it's very similar to the you know we're going this it's yeah yeah do mexicans do the same shit um i don't think so no at least maybe because i i get a lot of people that are surprised that i am so maybe i don't get that head nod yeah you know but um you get the these white people might be safe message yeah you know whatever you if you're walking through a mall or like let's just say white people might be safe message. Yeah. You know,

whenever you, if you're walking through a mall or like, let's just say that for some reason I'm in Napa, right? This app actually happened a lot in Napa. You go see another black person. It's like, keep moving.

Right. Cause it's like you, you understand. And we both understand. We see you. We see each other. You see you in this configuration of everything that's going on right now is okay for now yeah if shit goes down it's you and i that are going to figure out a way to survive dude that happens quick in a quick eye contact dude

when i was years ago when wine tasting was i used to do that a little bit were vineyards where like, I'd see maybe there'd be one other, maybe a girl or a guy or whatever. And you just always be like, hey, look at us enjoying wine. It kind of reminds me of like when you have a kid and your kid sees another kid at like the grocery store. Dude, they like stop and they like freeze. Like when your son sees another kid at like the grocery store, dude, they like stop and they like freeze. Like when your son sees another kid, similar age, right? And they're like, they just want to play with each other.

It's like the Spider-Man. You know what the Spider-Man means? That's exactly what it's like. Yeah. And it happened quite a bit on Halloween with the Spider-Man costume. My son had one. He didn't wear it because, you know, kids, sometimes they get excited to do stuff.

And then other times they're like, heck no, I'm not going to do that. And so he wasn't wear it because you know kids sometimes they get excited to do stuff and then other times they're like heck no i'm not gonna do that and so he wasn't wearing it but then when like a little kid about his size came up to the door and it's like spider-man he just maybe like he waved just to that kid and then yeah didn't care about anybody else so yeah that's exactly what it's like that's funny did he have uh like the spider-man costume with the muscles on it and stuff yeah it had the muscles maybe that's why he didn't like it yeah because he was like i don't need this fake stuff oh yeah exactly is this video what's going on here dude it's ready i don't know why it does that do we have the internet oh it's dtf yeah no it's just whenever i rewind it to the front for some reason it it does that let's give you

guys some eddie murphy classics before we start this okay this is good i'm afraid of gay people petrified i have nightmares about gay people i have this nightmare that i go to hollywood and find out that mr t is a about to bleep that a little bit really and he'd be walking up to people going hey boy do you remember this now look at my cute nim jeans You're looking mighty cute in them jeans. Eddie Murphy's the best. Look at that outfit. Yeah, man.

Now come on over here and fuck me up the ass. Come on. That's the best part about comedy is they go all the way. I'll definitely have to edit a lot of that down. Nah. Sorry. It was good. I want to be able to monetize today's article. That's true.

It's just funny that Mr. T is a bottom in this scenario. I know. That's how great comedians flip it, man. It's so good. Oh, God. Mr. T. Eddie Murphy's the best. Why won't he go back on tour or something, right?

Yeah, there were rumors that he was going to do another stand-up special on Netflix or something, but it never happened. Hopefully it happens before, you know. That'd be sick. Before he goes. He just killed everybody in it, right? And so he's like, I'm done. Yeah. I just make everybody so happy, though.

I'm pretty sure he had a house in Sacramento. There was like some Eddie Murphy. There were people that were partying. I didn't party at this house, but my ex did. So there were people partying. Would you say your girl liked to party all the time? All the time? Is this a song?

It's an Eddie Murphy song. Is that an Eddie Murphy song? It's his only song. Yeah. I think it's pretty good. He might have a whole album. I don't know. Yeah, I know.

But it's the only one that anybody can remember. Oh, right, right. Oh, shit. It's not good. Wow. Okay. That's funny enough. He might have had a whole album. I don't know. Yeah, I know, but it's the only one that anybody can remember. Oh, right, right. Oh, shit. It's not good, but it's- Wow. Okay. That's funny enough. Sorry, my old ass couldn't-

There were people that were like partying at this Eddie Murphy mansion. Apparently also there was a COVID thing where a bunch of people went to that house. Hell of people got COVID. It was the COVID party. I remember that. That was the COVID party at Eddie Murphy's house. That was his- Wow.

That was his place. Yeah. Dang. He's a super spreader he wasn't there this thing eddie murphy has not been in the house it's just the lord it's a place that he owned apparently so yeah that's our sacramento's claim to fame like hey eddie murphy had a house here once right that's all we got and that could be misinformation yeah we got nothing we don't have much. Yeah.

I did a bunch of sled work today, though, and it felt amazing. That's cool. Forget how, you know, there's this simple shit that you can do, like in a gym or at a gym. You don't even really need a gym for the sled. But I did the regular sled, and I did the tank. And I just kind of went, did some backward walking, some forward walking. And I just kind of went, did some backward walking, forward walking. And I went outside the back of super training.

And I went all the way down to the fence and all the way back. And it takes about three minutes. So it's three minutes of just straight work when you're pushing one way and then push back the other way. It's another three minutes. So it's hard. Which fence? What do you mean? three minutes so it's it's hard which fence what do you mean uh i went all the way from the the back door of the gym all the way to the fence of like whatever the hell where those like buses are whatever oh way over there got it yeah yeah exactly so like the whole uh whatever i don't

know if that'd be like 100 yards or something i don't know 250 yards maybe it's over 100 i had to pick a top five piece of equipment that i want like i'm own, a sled would be in there along with a kettlebell. And I don't know what the other three would be, but a sled and a kettlebell would both be in there. Yeah, a sled is just incredible. And when I was walking backwards, I was pulling, and then my legs were just getting killed. They were getting completely crushed. So I would intermittently do a little bit of row to sneak in like the tires moving a little further but that tank is a real bitch you know you can put it on the different settings um for the last set for the last set i

put it on the easier setting where you move a lot faster but then it's giving you whatever resistance you put into it and that was a real bitch too so i ran down in half the amount of time but because you're moving faster you're like even more out of breath i was dying they crushed me yeah the other day we had like six dudes all law enforcement training here in the morning it was really cool um i just kind of followed what they were planning on doing and we actually had a circuit with the tank incorporated into it everybody underestimated the power of the tank because you see it like okay this is next to a sled with like five plates okay that's going to be the hard one i'll be able to maybe get a breather on this thing that has wheels and it just smoked everybody's quads like

these couldn't you can't hide from it you know like you can't like cheat your way like it's just gonna always get you yeah and you can get super creative with them yeah what do you guys what do you guys do for like leg training like what do you guys do for your legs because i don't know does it does it even mess you up does it mess you guys up for jujitsu if you train like if you body build your legs like or or do you guys just train them in a way that doesn't do that some people don't think big legs are good for jiu-jitsu. I have big legs and I train my legs. So I don't think that they're bad.

But like, for example, putting somebody in a body lock is a little bit harder when your legs are bigger apparently, right? That's something that Gordon's mentioned. But yeah, I still train my legs. I do a lot of stuff on like the slant board. Unilateral work, so single leg work, but also like slant board squats. I've been doing a lot of horse stance squats, which are really, really good. Kind of like you when you were dance, yeah, very wide stance, but a wide enough stance that'll really help target the adductors and inner thigh and like progressing.

That's been a really solid cause you like, you can use the weight to push you deeper into your hips and then pushing out of that. It's, I think it's an underrated squat. So when you were, would bodybuild, you would have a sensation multiple times and workout where there would be the muscle would fill up with blood. You would get like a pump and then you would probably push a little bit beyond that and you'd probably stay within some sort of rep range that allowed you to have good form. Like what's the feeling that you're looking for now? Because you probably don't, I don't know if you want to even train the same way or if you just simply do train the same way and do less sets. Like how do you work it now? Well, the range of motion is really pushed now.

Like I get deep into my knees with like almost everything that I do. So the sensation I'm looking for is like I do want to get a pump there. I do want to feel it there. But I want everything I'm doing to be as either low or as deep as I can possibly take it with whatever load I'm doing. So whether it's the horse stance squat so I can get – and I don't know if you can pull up a horse stance on YouTube because some people might not know what I'm talking about. But a horse stance squat where you're squatting – Sometimes people are on their toes too,

right? It's like a wide sumo stance in there. I mean, I don't do it on my toes cause it's like, that's way too unstable and I won't be able to like work with a load there. But, um, I can just like really sink deep into my hips while keeping myself upright.

So I'm lengthening the adductors, but I'm also strengthening them. Yeah. Like, Oh, I got you squatting. And, but not with my knees coming forward as much. I'm pushing the knees outwards as I'm also strengthening them. Yeah. Like squatting, but not with my knees coming

forward as much. I'm pushing the knees outwards as I'm doing it. Kind of like what he's doing right there, but with weight. Or when I'm doing like squats on the slant board, I'm trying to get again, as low as I can come out of it. And you'll feel a lot of that in your quads, but I'm really pushing the range of motion. I want to be really strong in that really deep range. How is it different than bodybuilding or is it not different for you? I'm going to compare it to what I was focused on when I was bodybuilding. When I was bodybuilding, I wasn't, I was pushing range of motion, but not like I am now.

And I was more so focused on the load I was moving, right? So quality reps, good range of motion. But when I was, when I was focusing on bodybuilding, my pro my look at progression wasn't like, Oh, how low can I go with this movement? Or how's my range of motion? It's like, am I moving more load with the decent range of motion and my legs would grow. Um, but now like I'm looking at movement quality more and the stimulus more than just the weight being pushed. So like in that example of that movement, you might actually, rather than trying more weight or trying like a different tempo and trying to get more of a burn, you might just simply breathe or pull yourself down with your hamstrings more or relax more so you can get better range of motion. I'll try to sink deeper into the range of motion. One thing that's also really different now too is the breathing thing you mentioned. I think that's super important. With the way I've lifted

before and probably just like with the loads that you're moving, like I couldn't breathe while lifting. Like I'd have to hold my breath when doing certain things. Now I try to make sure that as I'm doing these movements, I can still create pressure, but I can still breathe while maintaining that intra-abdominal pressure. Cause you do want to stay braced, but I'm not trying to lift in such a way that doesn't allow me to produce force while not breathing. Because I think that that, if I can lift while while breathing that actually translates well to grappling because you're not you're never going to hold your breath while grappling about for yourself andrew yeah i'm still doing the um like the brig 20 stuff um for me jiu-jitsu takes a lot out of me so i'm not as

efficient as i mean it's not fair and seem as a brown belt but like someone like and seem is very efficient with jiu-jitsu um i'm not going to say like compare the two but like it's like he's kind of going on a a stroll while i'm sprinting all out almost you know so yeah it's fair like i mean and seem i could you could body build and it wouldn't have any probably negative impact on what you're currently doing if you wanted to me yeah yeah yeah i think so yeah so for me i just um i have to uh kind of stay protected and also like if a workout leaves me really sore or leaves me kind of sore it's going to roll over into jiu-jitsu and that's going to kind of have a domino effect um so like just for squats though i still will do cable sissy squats and oddly enough the position that i find

myself into the most it's called headquarters i'm down in that squatted position so i'm like feeling pretty strong in that spot um but what i've started doing is like when i come here is i incorporate the stuff that i'll say i should be doing because i don't do it enough so i should be doing more of it but the um the horse stance squat because i do have like a groin thing going on here, that's something I need to be incorporating a lot more. And Seema showed me the other day how to do it and, you know, how to progress it and that sort of thing. Also, the seated good mornings, the way you showed me just in Seema had me holding a dumbbell and then, you know, doing a seated good morning that way on a bench. Stuff like that I need to be doing a lot more of. So I incorporate that range of motion stuff while i'm here and then when i'm at

home i'm just doing basically just doing strictly bodybuilding but not so hardcore the way i used to where like that was my thing and so i would kind of give that my all and if i got sore no big deal because tomorrow's split's gonna be different than today's so i'm good versus actually shit like if i find myself in a weird spot like if i work my triceps or something and like i'm burnt out it might be hard to get out of side control because my arms are going to be sore so there's just things that i have to think about now does jujitsu make you bigger does it help does it help some people gain some muscle mass? If it's jujitsu on its own, I don't think so.

Because I think most people, if they're only doing jujitsu, they're doing it frequently. And you'll gain, I guess you could gain some muscle. But it's so taxing that I see most people lose body fat and get a little bit smaller over time. If it's the only thing that they're doing, I think you can get bigger while doing jujitsu, but it's going to be like, you gotta be doing some calisthenics or you gotta be strange training and eating enough.

Have either one of you guys gotten any small, like smaller from it that you noticed or, or is any of that intentional? For me? Uh, I initially, when I started jujitsu, I 260 um and i now i'm like 250 i've been 250 for the past years but i've maintained strength training and i've improved in certain

aspects of strength training uh i would say maybe i'm a tiny bit smaller than i was at peak bodybuilding phase but the thing is is I'm not training for that. And if I did, I could get any small amount of that size back. Um, but my movement ability is better and I think I'm maybe bigger in certain places. Yeah. I would say for sure. It's like revealed muscle a lot better. Like, I don't know if I've gained or lost. I would, you know, gun to my head. I would say I'd lost just because I'm not lifting as much as I was before jujitsu. I'm moving a lot and I'm feeling pretty good. But, yeah, like, you know, I'm not chasing the pump or anything like that.

So you might have lost 10 pounds and maybe two of it muscle or something? Yeah. So, like, what I was going to say is the body fat to muscle ratio has gotten better, though. You know, I mean. I think you've gained muscle, dude. Like over time, I think you've gained muscle. I don't know, man. I think the combination and just the overall volume maybe, but I think I've lost muscle though. Okay.

Yeah. I think it's what Mark said is totally safe to say that like if it was 10 pounds that yeah at least two are going to be muscle but i will happily accept that because like i'm eating a lot of food and i feel feel really good and my body looks pretty good right now like like the body that i have right now is what i was chasing when i was doing only aesthetic stuff and trying to chase the physique you know what i mean like if i and i couldn't get that with just lifting i had to start jiu-jitsu to start melting off the fat and like just moving like literally just like move more bro and it's like no i'm just lifting it's like

no you need to move so forcing myself to move because i fell in love with jiu-jitsu has overall like changed my body and made me feel way better. Yeah. Sometimes helped me a lot like with running that I've been messing with recently is I like bodybuilding and I like doing some of the movements. I like the feel of some of it. But I don't necessarily love like training to failure, training to failure and like just making crazy faces and like going all out and kind of getting yourself to points where you got to like make noise type thing. Um, I don't mind training that way. It's

fun sometimes, but it felt counterproductive with running. It felt like it costs me like almost too much energy sometimes. And so what I've been doing more recently is just having a shorter rest interval and I ended up getting to a very similar spot so like I did like eight sets of lat pulldowns a day and I just did um I don't know about 90 seconds rest and by the time I got to set number three or so I already had like some fatigue so all the reps after seven or eight reps all the reps um you know are going to be reps that are a little bit more difficult, a little bit more challenging. So I will get some soreness from that and I will get some, hopefully I'll get some like hypertrophy from that without some of the negative impact of kind of just throwing your body into weird positions sometimes as you might if you're trying to really go to failure and you're not just going to mechanical failure and then also

it just seemed expensive from an energy perspective whereas this doesn't seem as expensive i don't exactly know what the difference is but uh this feels way better so then the same thing when I did some squats today. I did a belt squat. I did Matt Wenning's belt squat. I messed around with that. And the reps were kind of in the range of like, let me move a lot. So I moved as much as I could.

Tried to touch the plates to the ground because the plates sometimes will hit the ground depending on how low you squat on that particular machine. And I was like kind of right in range with that and i did like four sets and but it's interesting because in comparison to like if i wanted to do like bodybuilding i would just crush myself with that a little bit more normally i would maybe do a couple extra reps maybe when it hurt i would be like okay do another four or five reps. Whereas now I'm like, okay, I think I got the input that I needed. That was good movement. I kind of am doing the movement more for range of motion. I'm doing it more for knee health. I'm not necessarily trying to make like my hammies and my butt and my quads bigger. I just want them like functional and I want them to feel good. And so

I got what I needed from it. Now I'm going to move on and do something else. But that's the thing, you know, like you get what you need from it and you know that you have other stuff that you have to actually perform with. You have to be able to perform on your runs, right? You have to be able to perform in jujitsu. So you can like push yourself, but you can't kill yourself in the gym because if you kill yourself in the gym, you won't be able to perform on your run or on the mats. And that's something to think about when you're strength training and doing another sport. And just to reiterate, and if you want to say it better, but like what you said is like, you know, if you're not doing the stuff that you should be doing in the gym when you're not on the mat then you're not going to be on the mat in the next 10 years so what you just said it's like yeah you can't kill yourself in the gym but you also cannot not be in the gym yeah and so like that's the stuff so like all of this the whether it's the training or the food because i treat them both the same like

you know okay halloween like cool like there's candy okay if I go nuts on the candy I gotta wake up well I gotta I'm going to wake up early in the morning to go train jiu-jitsu so if I eat that shit right now I'm probably gonna feel sick in the morning that's gonna not be good for my performance yeah dude so I'm not gonna do that right so I'm training and eating for performance and it's like the healthiest relationship I've ever had with food and training let Let me tell you this. High amounts of sugar don't do the body good, baby. Like I had it. I had such a bad headache, dog. Those candy bars? Those candy bars. We're still talking about this. This is like a few episodes deep now.

But like I had such bad headaches. I haven't had headaches like that before, but I had such bad headaches. I had some weird achiness in like different parts of my body that i haven't felt in a minute i'm like i swear this isn't placebo like i just had a big dump of sugar from this fucking candy and okay i see why i don't do it the morning after and see me ate those candy bars he's on the treadmill and he's running full blast and he's in one of those full on sweatsuits. I was like, holy shit. Burn off the calories. Yeah. He was checking his watch the whole time.

He's like, I'm not there yet. I got 50 more calories. It's like, damn, man. He's taking this seriously. That's what champions do. That's what champions do. Yeah. It's a joke.

It's a joke. Is it though? Yeah. It's a fucking joke. I don't know. Nah. Nah, it's a joke. All right. Power Proctor Family, though? Yeah, it's a fucking joke. I don't know. Nah, it's a joke. All right.

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Yeah. Misinformation. Miss. You're a fucking dad, bro bro and it is just funny because we did do like an everyday workout split podcast recently and i think this is going to be an interesting video because it's like with with in this space of like health especially in nutrition and fitness there's so many different amounts of information one person says something's healthy another person says something's unhealthy one person says one workout's great another person

says that workout sucks and people will believe one or the other when a lot of times it's like there's some truth in both right and uh it's just how it's how you kind of apply it seems like uh most people are a fan of consistency right like if we're looking for things that are uh like a through line with everybody, it seems like most people would say like being consistent can be really important. I think with nutrition and exercise, I think an important thing to do is to treat them like a practice, to treat them like a martial art where I'm sure you guys feel better and more competent in what you're doing than you did when you started. And I know for myself, I feel like in training and

the nutrition side, I would say like the training side was way further ahead for years and years and years. I was like a black belt in training for a while. And then I was like a blue belt in the nutrition side. And then eventually the two start to kind of merge together. But it is a practice and it is something that over time you can get better and better at. So I think, you know, if you kind of look at what everyone's trying to say online, it's really easy to point out like a lot of the differences that we have, but

there is a common thread between consistency. It seems like most people are saying, hey, like do a good, you know, do the best you can to get rid of processed foods. For the general public, that's some good information. Yes, I understand that people can calculate it into their calories and they can have 10% of their diet be whatever food they want probably and make tremendous progress. But there are some kind of common themes and there's most people seem to be a fan of some sort of resistance training of some kind. Most people seem to be a fan of some sort of consistency with some sort of cardiovascular

training, two, three times a week of lifting, two, three times a week of some sort of consistency with some sort of cardiovascular training, two, three times a week of lifting, two, three times a week of some sort of cardiovascular thing. Now, how you do those things is where we get like more infighting. We get more people saying you should power lift, you should body build. No, it's got to be this way. No, you should do functional movements. You get more like infighting within that. And then diet culture,

probably more so than anything is where you really see it. That's where you really see the divide and separation. And people tend to get like, people tend to get mad at each other. And I think that, uh, I think sometimes when you're communicating to somebody about a diet, you're kind of telling them that they're lazy. They're dumb. You don't agree with their lifestyle. Oh man, you can't be eating that. Like, what are you doing? You can't, you can't be having a, you have a Coke every day. Like what, dude, what are you doing? You can't be doing that. Like, that's not the way that it works. You're, it's way too much sugar. I also think there's maybe a little defense on some of this stuff because I think that people think they know it.

I've seen this a lot in the weight room, especially when it comes to trying to coach or train men and try to show dudes how to bench press. They think they got it. And the girls always progress so much faster because they would actually really listen to every detail. Oh, my hands go this way. Oh, my back goes that way. Oh, I go like this.

Okay, cool. And the guys were like, I forgot what you said. It's like, I told you three weeks ago, like you're supposed to do it this way, you know,

but they're not really paying attention to like the, the kind of, uh, like minor details in there. So it's just, uh, it's, it's like in our nature to have a lot of this polarity within all these different things that we talk about.

But you see it the worst probably in the nutrition space. Yeah, because right. Lose weight, gain muscle. Sure, we all agree on that. But don't do it the way that guy says because that's not good. Like what? Okay. Go fitness.

And why I believe that you should be training full body every day. Makes sense. Now, I have made my best results, especially getting lean and chiseled, on lifting two days a week. I have insane recovery and my appetite is lower. Okay. The green leafies. Now, these are the ultimate when it comes to building up your immune system. Spinach, kale, constantly in our household.

We love them. You got to get them your immune system. Spinach, kale, constantly in our household. We love them. You got to get them in. Oxalates are well known to cause kidney stones, joint pain, gut issues. Spinach is so high in oxalates, guys. Do not eat spinach salads. Get this out of your diet. I just drank some fucking spinach.

Bad for you. Take health food. All right. F*** this. For every opinion or fact you find online, you can just as easily find its contradiction. Even your question, the way you question something is interesting. You know, like if you, like if you were to type in, is ice cream good for me? Like you'd probably find some stuff where it would say like it's not that bad for you. Why is ice cream good for me? You'd probably find some stuff where it would say it's not that bad for you.

Why is ice cream good for me? Yeah, why is ice cream good for me? And someone would say, well, it makes you happy. And it's good to get a little sugar in your system. And it does A, B, and C. So I think the way that you ask a question can also really shape the answers that get thrown your way or the maybe fake answers that get thrown your way. Yeah, the top response is paired with an otherwise healthy diet

and exercise regimen, it is unlikely to do much harm. Which is true. Ice cream is totally fine, yeah. And you can say, see, told you. See. Let's move to, let me edit this. Let's move to 748. Let me see where I can.

I can't see shit. Let's go to the TikTok expert. Okay, let's do this. Three, two. Okay, I want you to do a little exercise with me. I want you to think of the last time you felt like you could really trust what a social media personality was saying. Maybe they were talking about a current trending topic or trying to expose the government or they tried to tell you why doing this one thing will improve your chances with girls by 350%. Do you have the image of them in your brain?

Okay, here's my next question. Why did you decide to believe this person? Was it because they provided you trustworthy information in the past and that ended up being true, so now you trust them more? Or is it because they have real credentials and a background in what they're talking about? While these may be some of the reasons why you trust what your favorite content creators say, I think there's a deeper answer that you're not going to want to hear. Social media has allowed just about anyone with a camera or even just a microphone to give their opinions or what they consider to be as facts on any given topic and have that piece of content potentially reach millions across the

world. The problem is we like to think that we have logical reasoning behind why we trust some people over others. But the reality is that how you judge a person's trustworthiness is based on very emotional bias. Pause this real quick. For instance, let me ask you guys. When you guys – because like we also consume information and we're learning from other people also. So when you guys are looking at something or someone or something, what, what makes you like, okay,

I dig this. I'm going to try this out. What, what, what gives it that for you guys? I think I have to see somebody like kind of multiple times to start to get that feeling. I got to hear from them multiple times,

maybe even check out their other platforms or hear them in some sort of longer format normally. It's hard to, it's hard to like figure out whether someone's giving you like truthful information in such a short period of time, especially like an edited reel where Gary Brekka comes to mind. The guy who's, you kind of see him everywhere right now. He, he was a guy who helped Dana White lose some weight and stuff like that.

And you're hearing him say stuff about like methylation of vitamin B and these different things. And sometimes just using him as a random example. Sometimes when a message from somebody like that comes up, he might say five, six, seven things that you may not have ever really heard of hardly any of them. But maybe there's like one thing that kind of makes sense in there. And because there's one thing that makes sense, you start to kind of believe almost everything else that he's saying. But for me, I tend to like look at that and say, I'm not really sure about that. I want to kick this around a little bit more. So I have like nerdy friends that I can like ask and I can double check and say, what do you think about this? And then somebody might say, oh, there'll

be some truth to that. But I find the most confusing about social media is a lot of times when somebody makes a point, they make a lot of other points that are not super related to the point that they're making. And they'll use percentages, numbers, and adjectives just to try to further explain away what they're trying to tell you. They're trying to sell you on like a – not trying to necessarily sell you something, but they're trying to tell you like they're trying to sell you on like an like uh not trying to necessarily sell you something but they're trying to sell you like a message and so sometimes they'll they'll say like oh this has been known for years this has been known for decades but they don't have it's like you can't just say it's known for decades been known by who for decades like where is this information coming from? So it's helpful when someone in a longer format, when you see someone on a longer format and they start to reference that

this came from like a study and this came from here, here, and here. I think that's why at the moment people are so into like the science, but we know that the studies can be flawed themselves. And we know that sometimes some things that we have especially when it comes to nutrition and diet it's not even uh necessarily attached to real um like hardcore data as it is attached to like surveys and a survey is like fucking totally different than like an actual scientific study. So it's tough, man. It's tough to disseminate who's got good information and who doesn't. Yeah.

When it comes to the, I think when it comes to like fitness stuff for me personally, um, one thing that you really, you can fake muscle. And when I say you can fake muscle, I mean like whether it's someone who's like, maybe they use PEDs or they have really good genetics, right?

Like, whatever they do could work. So what I pay attention to when it comes to like muscle gain and that type of stuff is like, how long have they kind of been doing this? And how are they functioning still? How are they moving? Bill Maeda is a person that's, I think it's a great example that comes to mind. Mike O'Hearn is someone that comes to mind too. People can hate him and people can say he's on PEDs,

but you look at how he's still lifting in his 50s and you're like, conceptually, this guy understands aspects of things that other people may not understand. The second thing that I kind of pay attention to when it comes to the physical stuff is like movement. The example of how a person moves, because one thing you can't necessarily fake is movement yeah someone can be maybe flexible or maybe they've been doing things for a long time but if they move really well and they can do things like through impressive ranges of motion

I pay attention to aspects of what they do because I'm like you can't just fake that you know You know, you've, you've obviously been working at this for a while. Practicing a long time probably. And there are concepts that I can pay attention to that I can take from what you're doing. Like you can see it. Kadoriziani, you can see it. You saw him come in here. You saw how his feet, you saw his abilities. And then you can be like, okay, what are your habits in terms of what you're doing? I, I, that's the thing I pay attention to. I don't necessarily pay attention to studies when it comes to like muscle or when it comes to like muscle or movement, because as beneficial as that stuff can be, it's, it's not, I don't see it in the real world. You know what I mean? I don't, I it's, it's better if like someone has applied it and seen benefit of it and you can see the benefit that they have. Cause then you can take that and apply it.

But I'm not going to be like, Oh, a study said that this is the rep range for this, this and this. And that's what I'm going to apply. I mean, I may try that out and see how my body responds, but that's kind of how I look at things,

experience and also how they're, how they, what they're actually doing. You've got someone like Greg, Greg Knuckles and Jeff Nippard. Those are guys that actually, they're doing a combination of things. They're like practicing what they're talking about. They are also studying it. They will use some science and some information, but they'll also use some of their history of their own experiences along with their experiences

with coaching other people. Yeah. And it's like, once you start to kind of, to me, that starts to build up like some real information that you can really start to, you know, listen in a little closer. You're like, wait a second. The one thing that I think is also hard to fake is passion. So someone could be passionate about like making money. So they could be like fired up to like sell you something. But for the most part, I mean, what Ben Patrick does,

you can't hide. Like Ben Patrick is so fired up and so excited about that stuff. And we've been around him enough times that, um, we see the way he reacts to what people say about him. When people say things negative about him, he doesn't seem to – he's so positive. He doesn't seem to give a shit.

And he very rarely speaks negatively of anybody else. He's focused in and honed in on his craft and what he's doing. And then when any one of us mentions something to him, he's like, oh, my God, that's great. I want to utilize that or I want to try that. Or like he's usually like a fan of it or like, oh, shit, I'm going to share that. I never thought of that that way because Ben is extraordinary. He moves really well, and he can dunk a basketball like a motherfucker. He's also quite open-minded.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, he's open-minded. When we show him something that's maybe different or something that he hasn't thought of before, he's like, oh, that's cool. That's interesting. Maybe I'll think about sharing that with my community. I hate to sound like a broken record, but your sleep quality most likely sucks. It's one of the biggest things that we talked about on the podcast. So many guests have come on and talked about how sleep can help you stick to your diet, stick to your workout plan, lose body fat, gain muscle,

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Let's say you're trying to learn how to build muscle and you look up how to start lifting weights as a beginner on YouTube. The first couple search results offer a guy who's not too good looking, has minimal muscle himself, and his thumbnail isn't really colorful or clickable. But when you scroll down to the third option, you see a massive dude who is highly attractive both in the body and in the face. But how did that first guy get ranked? Not only that, but it had zero views. No views, success. There's some fuckery going on because he also searched something differently. Okay.

He searched something differently from what he said, and then, yeah, I don't know. It just, there's something weird going on there that wouldn't be the top there's some cinematography and cinematics and effects and smoke and mirrors but even but even so like uh his point you know his point is made yeah if you're famous you know if there's a famous person in the picture that's going to probably get clicked on oh yeah it's like vin diesel the rock or something. Fam Fulic. You know how to, yeah. Yeah. How to get tons of muscle on some image of Sam.

So like people are going to check it out. Right. So there's a lot of that shit going on. And then also just if, if somebody is a, just high ranking in YouTube anyway, like they're just a high level YouTuber, they're going to be able to get a lot of people.

I mean, if I don't know if Mr. Beast has done this, but if he put out a video about how he's lost weight we just have millions and millions of views like he would be able to get ranked really high because people have kind of noticed that he's gone the more fitnessy route lately and you end up clicking on that one and trusting him more this is a prime example of the halo effect a cognitive bias which states that a single trait or characteristic of a person will positively or negatively influence our feelings or opinions in another area related to that person. This is a difficult one, man.

Listening to the fat personal trainer or listening to the guy that's been injured a million times about rehab and rehabilitation for injuries. I'm not – you know it's like it's but no one's perfect like there's not going to be a person that you can like be like oh this is the guy this is the guy to listen to um for all these different things i even heard um listening to alan watts one time was really funny he was saying that that sometimes people would get too close to a monk and they would find out that the monk smoked cigarettes. And they would find out the monk is like screaming at his girlfriend on the phone. The monk has a girlfriend? Exactly.

Exactly. But like sometimes with some of these people, it does make it tough. And sometimes with some of these people, it does make it tough. I remember Charles Poliquin saying that he couldn't get any – he would go into like these NHL locker rooms and stuff and try to get people to listen to him. And no one would listen to him. He's like a jacked kind of short guy and most of the hockey players are pretty big and pretty tall. And so then he started doing seminars in his – or when he went to talk to him, he would do it in a tank top and they all listened to him. He's got these massive arms, veins popping through the arms.

So it's like these, these things matter or whether someone has a PhD, these things register with people and they make a difference. There's an aspect of showing your work. I mean, I don't think that's everything because like, it's like I said, you can fake muscle.

It's not like the muscles fake, but like fake, but like guys can do stupid shit, right? And gain a lot of muscle and their information could be garbage. But there's, you know, there is a level of show me your work. I want to see either what you've done for yourself or what other people have gained from your information. It's important. Yeah. I mean, like it also like it just depends the the time it captures you so like uh tony robbins back in the day like he couldn't pay me to listen to him and then one day it just clicked and all of a sudden i'm like consuming everything i'm like oh this is this guy's have you guys heard of this guy you

know it's like well no duh yeah you changed a lot right and then so like similar to like this video that he has put up here um when i first started lifting and stuff i would be more inclined to watch that video than the one that he showed before where the dude's already all jacked because i'd be like oh i i kind of look like that guy on the left right now and it would be cool to look like the guy on the right so like i would be more drawn to that kind of like what you're saying and seem like show me the journey like oh you were jacked when you were 17 and you're jacked when you're 27 like okay that's cool and all but i don't think i can learn from you because i'm not the same person you know like obviously we're different but like i i didn't i didn't have the same path that you did but this guy that he showed on screen i'm like oh shit let me see what you got going on because maybe i can learn from you because we're more similar who knows more about marriage dr phil

who's been married five times or the guy that's been married for 50 years it's hard to say you know like yeah you know dr phil sounds like he had uh i mean first of all he's a doctor he seems like he's communicated with hundreds of thousands of people. So he probably does have a lot of amazing information. But just in general, like the guy that's been divorced a handful of times or the guy that's been married for 50 years, I would say they both probably have great information. It would be hard to probably differentiate on which one you should listen to more. But I would hope that the guy that's been divorced five times has learned something. But I think your point there is really good. I think that's where it's like your information shouldn't come from a single source.

If you're getting information about something, you should probably look at what quite a few people are doing that might be doing slightly different things and then come up with what you might do you can take something from someone you can but especially when it comes to the nutrition side of things because when it comes to exercise you can fuck with something that one person does for a while okay but like when it comes to nutrition and and saying this food is bad or meat is bad or whatever you probably want to kind of listen to a few pieces of information before

you're like, this is what I'm going to do for the next two years or some shit, or say, this is what I believe. I'm listening to a, like a billionaire versus listening to somebody that's been in prison. It's like, shit,

there's a lot to learn from both. Oh yeah. There's a lot to learn from both. Um, you're going to learn, um, information that you can't learn from people that haven't probably experienced those things since they're different, right? Yeah.

It's hard, but do your best to try to be unbiased with trying to find that information. So like what you were saying, Seema, like we'll just say, oh, I want to learn more about the carnivore diet. And then all of a sudden you search for reasons why the carnivore diet's a terrible idea. Oh, yeah. And all of a sudden now that's in your feed and you're just like, oh, I'm never – like that's dumb. Thank goodness I dodged a bullet. Your second or third video is like Lane Norton.

That's what I mean. So like try to be unbiased with that intake of information because you could easily talk yourself out of everything. A hundred percent. Which is kind of like how he started the video and then also the bias google searches and stuff it's hard but yeah be as unbiased as possible example it very well could have been the case that the guy who wasn't too good looking didn't have a lot of muscle and had a lousy thumbnail had exponentially better fitness advice than the roided out dude with the optimized

thumbnail but our brain used its bias towards someone who looks like they know what they're talking about to assume that this person must have better fitness advice than everyone else this halo effect isn't new since human beings have existed and almost all mammals for that matter we tend to put more trust and faith in someone who is more attractive or looks like they know what they're talking about. As another example, think about how we tend to find a guy with glasses, a sweater vest, and a mountain of books next to him as we're not that ready on topics related to philosophy and literature. But what is new about this phenomenon is just how much social media amplifies our biases

and promotes the things that appeal to our emotions, which then leads to a lot more misinformation. If you can simply just play the part of someone who looks like they could be trusted in a given area, whether that's trying to make yourself look attractive, look more professional, or transform your appearance in a way that we associate trustworthiness to in a given field, then you can become a leading source of information on the internet. And if you add in a superior ability to articulate your thoughts and talk with strong conviction and body language, then you can become even more believable.

Kind of like what is going on right here? Oh, yeah. Look, most people don't want to use their brain really hard. They just want to convince themselves that what this person is saying is true. This parody of just how outrageous some of the misinformation that spread online and how it spread online is a funny example of this, though is obviously exaggerated. What did ant eaters eat before ants existed? And what were they called if they didn't eat ants?

Isn't that concerning? Simply just by speaking like you know what you're talking about, you can convince a lot of impressionable young people who aren't aware of how their biases are controlling their perception of truth that you're right. Then there's the emotional triggering aspect of it as well. There are tons of people online, but Twitter seems to be the biggest place for this,

who will willingly spout and post misinformation simply because they know it will gain a lot of attention they will misreport a current event or give an opinion that they might not even believe themselves it's the amount of time someone's like sent me something where i've like i look it up and it's like ah this was actually i was like oh fuck things get shared easily easily it's always tough to be that guy that's like i we we we made up santa claus like i'm sorry like it's it's not real like and they're like no no but the the thing i sent you said it's real but okay here's why it's it's all fake and then they're just like mad at you because you made the thing that they were excited about untrue.

Yeah. But the chemtrails, dude. Hey. We want to go down that rabbit hole. We can. That's my shit right there. You ready? Yeah.

Ridiculous enough to get people engaging with the post, so it ends up going viral. Luckily, Twitter now has their community notes feature, which has been pretty useful in exposing how many tweets are just flat out lies but even that isn't very effective sometimes and the worst part about all of this is that you can convince yourself that whatever you're being presented with on social media the most must be the most true information internet it was interesting listening to elon. He was recently on Rogan. He was talking about X and acquiring Twitter and all that kind of stuff. And he was saying that it was pretty much just like,

like a government run company. And it's kind of interesting to think about that because it's like United States run worldwide company. And a lot of biases and a lot of things were, you know, edited and censored and individuals were censored and all those kinds of things. So it's just, it's fascinating that, you know, nowadays we get stuff through our phone. We get a lot of information through our phone. But the filter at which that comes at us, sometimes it's like tailored for us or tailored towards some of our kind of biases that we've maybe shown in the past or shown previously. And people are really worried about AI, but AI has been here for a long time.

It's already running a lot of stuff. It's already running programs to get you the information that it thinks that you like. And it's there to kind of feed you information over and over again to get you not so much like I don't know so much about like it causing a big divide and you hating each other and all that kind of stuff. But it does seem that there are something at play that wants you to be addicted to this stuff and wants you to continually look at it for purposes of making money. Yeah, I do like that on X that it does have the for you side, which is, man, it knows what's going to get you going. And then it has the for you side still and it's just the people you follow and it's just like a way more chill experience that's like not gonna keep you up at night looking at aliens in uh peru there's a and there's a lot of fuckery like for example the israel palestine thing going on i sent you a picture because there's this lady that was making some stuff, but about the same

bombing that happened, CNN posts Hamas, hundreds killed in Israeli strike on hospital in Gaza. And CNN said that that could have been a Hamas misfire, whereas the BBC said Israel just bombed the Anglican hospital in Gaza

as Israel did that bomb, not that it was Hamas misfire. So CNN continues to post things about how this was done by Hamas and Palestine, whereas another is like Israel did this bombing and they're BBC, CNN. And there's another news source that says something somewhat different. But what actually happened was apparently it was what the BBC put forward. So it just shows how like news outlets are also skewed versus the type of information they'll put forward about something that's going on worldwide. And if your only source of information is CNN, like as my mom's and with many people I know, then they're getting this one idea of like this about a worldwide phenomenon that's going on and that whole thing is fucking complicated but like it's a great example of how like media is going to skew your perception of

something if it's the only thing you pay attention to i think it's very hard if you grew up here in america and i think it's tough to have uh it's not hard to have like compassion but it's hard to like have a better like world view of like how things are done in other countries. And when stuff came up with like the Ukraine and Russia, I'm like, I don't know anything. I'm sorry. I don't know anything about either one of those countries. I, all I know is like Rocky four. You know what I mean? I, I know a couple of people that are Russian. I know a couple of people that are Ukrainian. I hear hear some people arguing i hear some of this and some of that but i have no idea what's true i hear about the money our government's giving to the ukraine and stuff but i don't have any i just don't know and i and i my main source of

information a lot of times i love listening to joe rogan but i'm also not going to fall into the trap of like believing everything that i hear on there so when it comes to some of this kind of stuff, I'm like, I don't really know. I actually don't even know where to look. I don't even know where to begin to look to find out more information that I think would be unbiased when it comes to these wars and some of these things that are going on right now. There's that show. It's, uh, what's it called? Yeah. What is that?

It's, um, cause I was just, yeah. Fuck. It's that show it's uh what's it called yeah what is that it's um because i was just yeah fuck it's that one show the dude i know there's a few shows where there's like uh right side and left side that's the one yeah yeah whatever um it's called that show it's fun it's fun to listen you know i'll also say it's fun to listen to some shows where they just throw out you know they just kind of, like the podfather, he just throws out stuff. Just kind of throws out information and maybe it is misinformation. But it's kind of fun to listen to some of that and entertain it and say, holy shit, I wonder if that's true. That's actually really interesting.

I'm going to stew on that a bit and see if i can find out for myself or sometimes i just find some of these things fascinating not necessarily like what happened with matthew perry like there's people that are like oh you know he got vaxxed and so forth who the hell knows um it's hard it's hard to really say but is it worthwhile to examine and to figure out how the guy died? I think so. Yeah. Yeah, there's just some weird stuff.

I'm not laughing at his death. I'm laughing at like, because we were talking about like Twitter and stuff. I guess his last post, he just randomly put like three raspberries on a table, which is the same thing that somebody else did right before they drowned in the tub or something. Oh yeah, it was.

Or maybe I messed that up. They were cranberries and the name of the group was the Cranberries. Oh, is that what it was? The lead singer of the tub or something. Oh, yeah. It was. Or maybe I messed that up. They were Cranberries. And the name of the group was the Cranberries. Oh, is that what it was? The lead singer of the Cranberries. I love the Cranberries. Oh, did she? Yeah.

Something like that. So there's like, there's some weird things going on there. Well, that's some shit. I think there's always weird things when somebody dies. Yeah. But it just so happens that, you know, he was a celebrity. And it was. He was saying he's Batman and stuff.

Yeah, and it was sad slash cute because my daughter loves Friends. And so when she found out, she starts crying. But not bawling, but as she's reading it, tears start coming out. It's like, oh, I'm sorry. Chandler Bing was one of the funniest on that show. Yeah. Ready to keep going? Yeah, let's keep going.

A concept I talked about in my Rise of NPCs video, but I didn't talk much about how it leads to a groupthink problem. It is true that most of the time any social media platform is going to continue recommending you content that you are engaging with the most. So if you start getting into watching, say, self-improvement content, it's going to start recommending

you videos that the majority of other people who are into self-improvement content, it's going to start recommending you videos that the majority of other people who are into self-improvement are watching. At least from my experience here on YouTube and what I can see my audience watching in my analytics tab, self-improvement is consumed more by people who lean closer to the right side of the political spectrum and enjoy hearing

red-pilled takes about women and the world. This subtly and deviously pushes you into a certain ideology and set of beliefs that you may have never These are actually men that produce testosterone. You said these are just men that produce tests? Have you ever heard of people saying that

if you were to inject liberals with testosterone they would turn into Republicans? Yeah. There might be some truth. I don't know. There definitely is. Who knows? That's just funny either way.

Yeah. Probably like far, far, far left liberals. You know what I mean? Yeah, because if anybody's that hardcore on anything, they could probably easily be swayed one way or the other. I would be real. I would say that I'm somewhat liberal. I have some conservative views too, but I'm not far left. I'm not even close to the far right. So it's just like, ah, it's a toughie. improvement and whatever this uh for a red pill stuff he's like that puts you in this ideology and i'm like no i have free will like i have my own thoughts you can't put me in this circle that

fits me really well right now in this statement that you made you know like i'm just joking but it's interesting that like oh the algorithm can easily identify who i am and like what i'm gonna be into based off of finding personal development videos. Oh, 100%. You know, like that's, but what I'm saying is like, no, no, I decided to be this way. I'm my own person. But the algorithm was like, nah, that you are that person because you did this, not because you decided, you know what I mean?

And think about how angry people get when some of those beliefs, like maybe someone's like super red pill and then someone starts challenging some of their beliefs that they might have on dating women, et cetera. There's this visceral, like, fuck you. That's not true. That's not real. Right. So you really have to, if you want to have a more even take or approach on something, you have to go out of your way to search for it because it's not going to hit you. It's not going to hit your algorithm. And if it does, you ain't going to click that fucking video because fuck those bitches. You know what I mean?

Yeah, they need testosterone. So, yeah, it gets tough. You can only be so creative. You can only think. You literally can't think outside the box. You're always in the box no matter what you do. Yeah, because you can't think outside of the box because you don't even know that there's a box. That's grim.

You're thinking outside of... That's so grim. But if you don't even know that there's a box, how can you think outside of it? You're thinking outside of your own box. You think you are. Yeah. But you're not getting outside of any real box. That's the annoying part.

Yeah. That's what's frustrating me about this still right here is, like, no matter if you you try you can't get out of this matrix it's against the real world talk to people the content then you subconsciously start to say to yourself this is the way i should be thinking this is how social media has exacerbated tribalism or an us versus them mentality throughout society it is online most people tend to prioritize the interests of the group over the interests of others and even go so far as to do things that would be harmful to those outside of the group. And when that happens, our shared humanity collapses or becomes irrelevant. And anything that contradicts what is true and right within your group immediately –

I think when I was a kid, it was more of an us versus them mentality. And I don't think things were collapsed. What do you mean? Uh, and yeah, people, people in America were less compassionate towards, I would say maybe in general, but like people are less compassionate in America about what was going on in the rest of the world. And it was us versus them. I mean, even again, back to Rocky IV.

Right. You know, American versus Russians, the Cold War, right? Yeah. I think people used to be like, fuck Russia. Fuck them. It's better them than us kind of, you know. And I don't think that caused a divide in this country. I think it, I mean, if anything, it might have been helpful. I don't know. Do you know what this country i think it i mean if anything it might

have been helpful i don't know i i do you know what i'm talking about yeah i do i do i think outside power yeah i think you are on something but i think there just wasn't the communication that was available that is today of course so like we didn't we didn't get live footage of other wars you know going down and then selectively didn't get footage of other wars that were going on like the uh the the song we are the world you ever see that yeah i think that's what it's called yeah they made a couple versions of it yeah it's like the main one with marvin gaye and yeah yeah michael jackson and everything everybody yeah that song fell very flat i think like i don't i don't i don't think i don't think it like uh it probably did fine here

in the united states but i don't think anyone believed in it if that a song like that came out now it would hit better because we are more attached because we have the internet we have one form of uh media that has pulled everybody sort of together for better or worse i don't know if it's good it doesn't it doesn't appear like it's good, but maybe it is. Yeah. I understand what you're saying in terms of like, there is most likely less nationalism now.

Like there are people who still like, obviously love America. I mean, America, I love America too, but with the, with seeing what goes on in so many other places and then seeing maybe you... It's too hard to even think about

the way that they think in other countries. It's so different than here. There's that. And then there's even the mistrust of the government. Now, like people have, there's always been people who have mistrusted the government. But nowadays,

the level of governmental distrust, especially after 2020 and so many other things, it's like there is less, there's a little bit less patriotism now than maybe there used to be. And it's, it's going to be hard. I don't think it's even possible to get that level of patriotism back, you know? Yeah. I think it would be nice to think of the world.

Like if everybody thought of the world as their community, that would be cool. Like if you picked up the trash in like whatever state you're in or wherever you're at, like, cause you saw it on the sidewalk and you're like, this is where we all live, but people don't really, they don't really think that way. Maybe our younger, maybe the younger kids will like, maybe our youth will. And that's kind of cool, but I still don't really know what that will do because the ideologies they live behind in other countries are so different than here that i don't think it can be communicated upon i just think that i think that's what war is war

is like lack of communication you can't talk it out anymore you can't have a discussion anymore and you have to say hey you can't invade that country or you can't do this um i disagree with what you're doing hey i disagree with like how many times are you going to say it before you end up probably in some sort of fight over it you know yeah and then the like the patriotism is it's like it's i believe it's there it's just shifted in a different way so i'm thinking about dudes like tim kennedy right who loves america more than tim kennedy but he will say things about like again like 2020 and stuff but he'll also like go save americans and other countries but then come back and be like we're not doing things right or it may be

i don't want to put words in his mouth or because i can't quote him exactly but he will have disagreements with things that are going on right now that doesn't mean that he's not patriotic right like because he's fucked he is america right so that patriotism is still there it's just now people kind of woke up i hate to use that term because it is kind of like a uh like a trigger word i guess but the the trust is definitely lost but that doesn't mean that they're necessarily not in love with america it's just like hey maybe we do want to get it back to the way things were that like the time that you do you described mark like when i'm joking yeah well not that far back i'm talking about like rocky all right what time not not those times not at all heck no but you

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Let's get on with this video before I say something stupid. Immediately gets labeled as untrustworthy. In other words, anything that challenges your identity or the identity of the group cannot be trusted. I've experienced firsthand just how much a tribalist mentality can make a more nuanced person be perceived as untrustworthy. Because I'm in this self-improvement space, and like I talked about before, most people in here are more right-le the political suddenly got black they assume that pause pause this real quick you know that that couch do you know that couch picture with the little white girl and all the black guys behind he kind of looks like that dude and those guys behind him kind of all have kind of nappy hair like it looks like he's behind a sea of black or in front of a sea of black men. I don't think that's very nice.

They're all front facing, just kind of pushing it out. It just looks, you know, kind of ruffled if I want to ruffle nappies. Ruffled sounds better, yeah. Just be careful. If you ever use the word nappy. No, I'm not ever going to use that. That's a good call. That's just a good call.

Yeah, I'll call you if I'm going to say anything or do anything. Can I say this in i say this real question can can we use the term wavy or is that still that's that's a healthy okay cool so their hair looks wavy you know what thank you andrew i should have used wavy i really should have used wavy because it insinuates kind of the same thing yeah without you know it's positive wow is it positive that's wavy-headed gentleman behind so bad fuck on with the video must be a republican and have exclusively right-leaning political beliefs so when i start to talk about things in a more left-leaning political beliefs. So when I start to talk about

things in a more left-leaning liberal manner, such as challenging traditional masculinity, or in other words, when I have a less polarizing mix of political and self-improvement beliefs, those in the online tribe of self-improvement whose views are exclusively polarizing start to trust me less and get very angry and upset with me. And it makes sense because I've challenged their confirmation bias towards what they consider to be true and I've challenged the online tribe of self-improvement groupthink as a whole. Think of how you might be guilty of this as well.

How many times have you completely written off a piece of content's advice or presentation simply because it didn't match with the online tribe you most closely resonate with? How many times have you felt a creator was untrustworthy because they started to be more nuanced with their takes and consider perspectives from both sides? This way of thinking and acting towards creators is just as problematic as believing any creator who acts and looks like they know what they're talking about. If we really want to get closer to working together

and trusting each other as an entire species more, we must start to challenge the information that we're immediately presented with as well as our biases towards things that we consider to be true so here are some of the ways in which i have done so to the best of my ability at least and please do not click off the video here this is where i'm actually going to give you actionable steps to do something to change these issues. Pause this real quick before we get to this. Is there anything that like I think we overall like we share a pretty diverse amount of things and we also follow a diverse amount of people. We've had those types of people on the on the podcast. But is there do you guys go out of your way to do that to like if there's something you really are behind, you go out of your way to like do that to like if there's something you really are behind

you go out of your way to find things that challenge that i consume information i listen to stuff that i don't really want to listen to and i try to get i try to squeeze some information out of it and i actually usually find that i get um probably the best information that I get usually comes from that. Gotcha. Because in my circle, there's like – it seems like a lot of people are saying similar things. And then to get outside of that and hear different perspectives is actually refreshing. But I will say it's like medicine that I don't like taking. I take it reluctantly and I'm like, oh, man, but I need this to kind of go to sleep. I'll take it. So and I'm like, oh, man, but I need this to kind of go to sleep. I'll take it. So it's been helpful.

And then I'll just understand people better. Like just everyone's just trying to do the fucking best they can. And so you start to think that way and you're like, this guy is not trying to hurt anybody. He's certainly not trying to hurt me. He's just giving information. I don't need to be mad about it. Yeah. Yeah. not trying to hurt me he's just he's giving information i don't need to be mad about it yeah yeah especially when uh giving advice like if i uh i don't tell my wife like yeah you need

you know eat eat more eat more protein like get your fat content somewhere whatever but if she says i might want to uh try more like a i can't even get the words out. That's how much against it I am. But a plant-based diet type of thing. Initially, I might be like, don't fucking do that. Andrew, why is your ring not on your phone? Right, yeah, that's what I'm saying. But in that delivery now, instead of being like, no, don't do that. I would change the delivery and ask questions, figure out why,

and then take that question and then go figure that answer out. That's a really easy one to pick out there. But anytime something like that happens where it's against what I would advise, I don't say, no, don't do that. That sounds dumb. I kind of try to figure things out like we talk about on the podcast. Or I might drop you guys a text and be like, hey, what think about this and that and then you know you guys are my best source of information so that's and then to answer your question earlier like how do I get my information it's like usually if somebody that I trust you guys sends me a video of somebody they get like

a bump to the front of the line as far as like who's in my feed now so that's like what I do is I find somebody I trust they give me something I that gives them a pass to at least give them an opportunity to see if the information is good yeah but going back to this now question is um yeah i i will uh take take on questions and then if it's against something that i believe in then i will go figure out if that's if that has some merit to it instead of before where it's like, no, just eat 10 eggs. You know what I mean? Like it's yeah. Stuff like that.

Yeah, that's good. That's good. Yeah, because we are all different. We're all freaking humans. Usually keep cranking. The rule of thumb I use for finding the most accurate and truthful information is to never trust a single source and never rely on purely anecdotes when you can. Whether you look up a question you have about a topic you're interested in on Google, search it on social media, or just get fed a piece of content through the algorithm and it piques your interest enough

to engage with it, do more research and look for more sources on the given topic. If you're searching for the truth on Google, it's usually in your best interest to just ignore the featured snippet entirely, probably go through like the entire first page of links, and then come to a more sound conclusion about the truth you're trying to seek. I know it's extremely appealing to just watch a 60-second TikTok video on an issue that requires much more than 60 seconds to really grasp the situation or concept, but you need to actively remind yourself that there's probably much more to what you're being told here than you think. Before you decide to believe something as true that you've seen online or even in real life, put in the effort to see the complexities behind that truth prior to adopting it into your set of beliefs. The second rule I use is to check if I'm

relying too heavily on biases when I start to agree with something. The most relevant biases for this video that I want to go over are confirmation bias, anchoring bias, and the availability heuristic. Confirmation bias is a tendency to only pay attention to information that confirms your current beliefs about issues and only follow people on social media who share your viewpoints. This is similar to what I was trying to describe when I was talking about internet bubbles and only believing what the tribe you are associated with believes. Anchoring bias is our tendency to be overly influenced by the first piece of information that we hear. For example, we tend to be overly influenced by our first impressions of people, which may not be an accurate representation of them at all, or we might get trapped into thinking that whatever

first thing we learn about self-improvement, red pill, politics, or any subject is the most trustworthy and only way to think about these things. Social media has a great way of enhancing this anchoring bias problem as well, because once you click on that first video and get fed its claims, the algorithm's gonna start pumping similar videos, thereby having you become overly influenced by only that particular type of content. thereby having you become overly influenced by only that particular type of content. And the availability heuristic is the tendency to overestimate the probability of something happening based on how many examples readily come to mind. For example, you might believe that women are more untrustworthy than they actually are because you've recently been consuming tons of content related to female nature,

and this content is only highlighting examples of how women have cheated and how many marriages have failed. So you can kind of see how all these biases blend and influence one another to create this misinformation cocktail in your brain. There's a ton of other biases that are negatively influencing your ability to think clearly, so if you want a whole list of cognitive biases, I've left a link in the description for you to do more research on those things. But to combat the biases we just went over, I used the third rule. Check to see what the other side is saying. I'll admit, I used to frequently get caught in the bias of thinking that anything that goes against the belief that veganism is the healthiest human diet is wrong.

And for a long time, I see this this now i wouldn't consume any content opposed to that belief being plant-based myself but i think the biggest turning point for me was when i started to see people who consume a plant-based diet themselves start to debunk some of the points made in the netflix documentary what the health it was clear that the documentary made some really bold claims like saying that eating an egg a day is as bad for your life expectancy. Even that, the Blues, did you guys end up watching

that Blue Zones documentary on Netflix? That documentary, although good, right, because like you could see how the physical habits of these people, like they had community, they,

you know, they kept moving. These elderly people were, you saw that in Sardinia, you saw those women cooking and kneading dough with their hands. But the habits were really good. Habits were – A lot of those people, yeah.

But there is an overarching theme of plant-based, plant-based, plant-based. And then there was – what's his name on YouTube? He makes these videos. A lot of people left out details. He makes these videos. A lot of people left out details. In that movie, they left out some details of other countries that eat differently but also have really amazing health outcomes like Hong Kong, for example. I think Hong Kong has the highest – people live the longest in Hong Kong and they eat tons and tons of meat. live the longest in Hong Kong and they eat tons and tons of meat.

There's also Okinawa. Cause there's a video where I'm like this guy, he pretty much like was talking about how I'm, I think it's what I've learned. He did a deep dive on like, cause in the documentary they were showing as Okinawa was like eating all these vegetables and stuff, but they also have it. They eat a lot of meat.

Right. And they, they totally left that out of the documentary. And if you only watch that documentary, you'd be like, all these places are totally plant-based. Where, no, he just kind of didn't talk about how much meat some of these people actually do eat. So it's like, you gotta... He was picking and choosing what he wanted to leave in there.

It was still a good doc. Yeah, it was still cool. But yeah, pick and chose. The Ansel Keys method. Right now, I It was still a good doc though. Yeah, yeah. It was still cool. But yeah, pick and chose. The Anzel Keys method. Right now, I know you're looking in the mirror. You're getting ready for your nephew's quinceañera. You have a long sleeve on that looks horrible and your pants don't fit right. That's why we partnered.

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expectancy this was later proven to be outdated information and the documentary also cherry-picked several other studies so that's when i started to say to myself okay there's obviously a ton of health benefits to eating a primarily plant-based diet, but that doesn't automatically mean that someone who is eating animal products is less healthy. The truth about diet is definitely somewhere in the middle there and is massively more complex than all animal foods are bad for you. Now, watch as I get attacked in the comments by strict carnivores because I go against their tribe's beliefs and get attacked by strict vegans because i go against their tribe's beliefs but apart from diet i try to do this with my other beliefs and opinions as well a great website for

getting the most unbiased news specifically is all media they give you resources for current news topics from the left right and center of the political spectrum so you can protect yourself from biased media and misinformation it's always important to consider that your beliefs or way of living may not be the most morally and logically sound or accurate, and you should put in an effort to get perspectives from both sides of a given topic. From that, you can gain a more balanced view and not get so emotionally swayed by something that challenges your assumptions and ultimately your identity. I find that kind of interesting yeah when he was talking about the nutrition side of things um there's probably a lot of people that listened and they were probably like open ears and they were probably like listening to a lot of what

he said and then when he got towards the end and basically announced that he's vegan or vegetarian or whatever he is uh there's probably a lot of people like oh uh-huh probably like killed the whole show for them in some way and i think it's just it's a good lot of people like oh probably like killed the whole show for them in some way and i think it's just it's a good idea to have like a more open mind to it um regardless of his own beliefs on his diet that doesn't make everything else that he said irrelevant it doesn't make everything else he said even if you disagree with him on the diet side of things it doesn't mean that there wasn't good comments in there previously. The thing I did find interesting is, I'm not sure if he ever really mentioned this,

but the thing that I look into the most is when I hear somebody really start to talk about something, if I think it's convincing or there's even like some sort of hope that I think that this thing would work for me or work for other people is I actually go and do it. You actually go and try it. And so I don't know if that was something that he left out or wasn't thinking of that particular thing. But because we're dealing a lot with like the physical, normally I want to like try stuff. Now, admittedly, I have never tried a vegan diet. Normally, I want to try stuff.

Now, admittedly, I have never tried a vegan diet, but I never thought about a vegan diet enough to – I've never been convinced that that would be a good idea for me to mess with in the first place. If I did think it was a decent idea for me to try, then I would do it. I would give it a go and give it a shot and see what it would do for me but um the things that you think could be valuable rather than sitting there and being like well i don't know if the guy said enough science i don't know if the guy's ripped enough for me i don't know if the guy's strong enough rather than thinking all those things just go and fucking try it because when somebody is talking about certain things and they have a lot of references and studies kind of how you saw in the egg study there with cigarettes there's a lot of studies especially with nutrition, that are just kind of fucked. That will make you, if you are someone who is plant-based, think that meat is horrible.

And you could even listen to Paul Saladino and hear about all the ways that plants are killing you. But you could just be someone like myself and many other people that plants don't do shit negative. I feel no negative effects by eating any types of fruits or vegetables. And if anything, I actually feel better when I do consume those things. So I do, I've never gotten them, like never rid them from my diet. But for some people,

when you try and eat some of these things, you get negative effects. So maybe it's something that you as an individual need to be careful with. That's why it is important. Like try some of these things out. Try some of these nutritional things out. Try some of these physical things out and kind of see how it's going to help you out or not.

I do think also when he is talking about somebody primarily eating plants, what comes to mind is like what we teach here is for people to primarily eat protein. is for people to primarily eat protein. And if you kind of think about the two things and how they're more related than they are unrelated, they're related in the sense that protein, just straight up by itself, isn't really a lot of energy. It's not a lot of calories. It's not calorically dense, but it does have micronutrients in it.

And vegetables are similar. Vegetables are something that can take up volume. They're not calorically dense, and it could really help somebody get through each and every day without overeating and i would say that that's like half the battle and that's why we can't figure out what's an optimal diet is because one of the more optimal things you can do is just not overeat it's like pretty much that simple uh don't overeat and obviously you can't be like undernourished, but it's kind of hard to do that here in the United States.

It's very hard. Strength is never weakness. Weakness is never strength. Catch you guys later. Bye.