Mark Bell's Power Project - Why You Can’t Build Your Self Discipline || MBSS Ep. 46

Episode Date: May 20, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You would think like, oh, I need this real devotion to the gym or just discipline to the gym. And I don't think you necessarily do. When you're not on point, when you're disciplined, it actually just costs you a lot more in the long run than you think. What is it about something like trying to stay disciplined and doing something consistently that might make it a little bit easier? So worse has worse outcomes and better has better outcomes. That's why I say do more, be more. They say you want something done, give it to the busiest person in the room. Do you think that just by way of discipline, it can be a streamline for somebody to kind of make something of themselves?
Starting point is 00:00:33 Oh, yeah, 100%. I think it's huge. Oh. Between that and me with my sniffles, people are in for a treat today. Apologies in advance, everybody. I don't know what the heck's going on. I'm eating my meat bag. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:53 My carnivore snacks. My carnivore. These are so good. Yeah, what do you got? You have? I have my meat bag. It's like a carnivore crisp? Carnivore crisp, yep yep and they're nice and
Starting point is 00:01:06 crispy it's different than jerky you know a lot of people are like oh i'll just get jerky but beef jerky is great but uh carnivore crisp only has like three ingredients so peeps if you want to go check it out you can use my code mark bell i promise i'll stop chewing into the microphone but uh probably my favorite ones are the chicken breast ones are good the chicken skin ones are really good i like eye of round there's another one that's good and then the brisket the brisket's just like out of control yeah i'm still a fan of the chicken one yeah the chicken breast i think yeah it's just super salty.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Yeah. Yeah. They have elk. They got bison. They got all kinds of stuff. So great product. That's dope. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Anyway, we're going to talk today about discipline. And I think there's like, there's so many different ways you can go with discipline. There's some people that they just really, really enjoy what they do. Like they just love it. They love it, love it, love it. There's the guy at jujitsu or the guy that you are girl that you run with that just has the biggest smile ear to ear. And they're like, what's up, man? You ready? Hey, how are you feeling today? Yeah. But not everybody's like that all the time. And, uh, for a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:02:23 it's, it's like a body of work to try to stay attached to the thing that they know is in their best interest and normally you would say like well if you really just like something then that means you're probably doing it and if you really want to get good at something that would mean that you're crossing off the T's and dotting the I's every chance you can get but we know that's not always true because there's and dotting the I's every chance you can get. But we know that's not always true because there's also like a lot of self-sabotage, especially when it comes to diet. You know, probably the easiest thing for most people to do to improve their aesthetics is to simply eat less. Figure out a way to, and maybe not even strategically just eat less, but strategically eat differently.
Starting point is 00:03:16 You know, eat things that are more dense in protein and that have less fat and carbohydrates and try to figure some of those things out. But your average male, that's, you know, 200, maybe they're a little overweight, maybe they're 230 pounds or something, and they're 5'7", 5'8", and they want to look better. You would think like, oh, I need this real devotion to the gym or this discipline to the gym. And I don't think you necessarily do. I think some walks, some other things that you like, maybe going on a bike ride and things like that. But then where you do need to be disciplined is probably with your food and have you spend a lot less time in the gym.
Starting point is 00:03:52 And so what I have observed over the years is that when you're not on point when you're disciplined, it actually just costs you a lot more in the long run than you think because it's kind of a double whammy. You aren't doing the thing that you're supposed to do and you aren't doing the thing that you supposedly love. Okay, I understand that there's things associated with the goal that you have and you might not love all of it, but you're doing something that's not moving you forward in the direction that you wanted to go. It's also at the same time moving you backwards and a lot of times
Starting point is 00:04:26 it's like counterproductive to what it is you like to do so i think we're going to try to dive into all that's tough to make sense of it because i think sometimes you also need a break too right sometimes you need to like chill sometimes you need to push really hard we talked with casey short recently about that line where is that line like no one knows where that line is so you say F it and go to the gym or do you say oh man I really I really probably should sleep today I'd be better off I'm sick it's like if I just rest for today there's times for me where I might cut something a little short. And the reason why I cut it short is to set myself up and prepare for the next day.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Cause I'm like, I'm going to be doing this again tomorrow. I do this pretty much every day. I do some form of exercise nearly every day. So is it that important that my run is 45 minutes on that particular day? No, probably not. One lap around the ST block over here, take 15, 20 minutes, something like that. That's more than enough sometimes. And sometimes maybe it's even less than that. Maybe it's just a walk, but then it makes you feel undisciplined. Yeah. How come?
Starting point is 00:05:41 I mean, I haven't played video games in a long time now, but you could be really disciplined and play the shit out of video games and nobody has to force you to do it. How is it that somebody can do that on a consistent basis, but they can't go on a walk after every meal on a consistent basis? What I usually tell people, and it might not sound fair, is I usually tell people that you're just not as interested in that goal as you thought you were. You know, the guy that says he wants to be a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt, but then he's telling you about last night how he drank so much he threw up this morning. You're like, that's cool you want to be a black belt, but it's not going to be in three years.
Starting point is 00:06:22 It's going to be in three years. Right. You know, it's going to be in five years and the way you're going, it might not be in 10, you know, with somebody who's drinking and not concentrating on the goal. And so I think it's more complicated than just that though, because we, we just lie to ourselves throughout the day. Like you just, you baby yourself so much throughout the day. And at least I do like, oh man, you've been killing it. You did a good you baby yourself so much throughout the day. And at least I do like, Oh man, you've been killing it. You did a good job. That was a great workout today. Oh, maybe you should like that pizza place that you like. There's no reason why there's no reason
Starting point is 00:06:54 why you can't have a slice or two of pizza. And there isn't any reason why you can't have a slice or two of pizza. However, for me, that's going to cause a cascade of other things to kind of leak in and I don't want any of those. I'm going to, if I eat pizza, I'm probably going to eat ice cream and like, it's probably just going to turn into like a cheat extravaganza, which isn't great. But even if I was disciplined enough to only eat like one slice of pizza, The other thing I don't like about that is the same thing that I don't like about, um, waking up later in the day is that's what everybody else does. So who eats pizza? Look at the people that eat pizza regularly. I don't want to fucking be like that. Um, I don't want to look like that's not, it's not in line with my goals, nevermind what they do or how they do it or whatever. That's totally up to them. And you know, I, I spent a lot of time eating pizza,
Starting point is 00:07:50 so I'm in the same category. Um, but it's not in line with my goals right now. And if I'm telling you right now that I want to get shredded, I want to get, you know, maybe even leaner than I was when I did my bodybuilding show, but still be proficient at running and all these things. But then I'm like, yeah, well, the diet last, you know, last week, you know, it was a little off plan. You know, you're like, you're like, that doesn't match up with what he said. That's weird. That's interesting. You know, and we just human beings and, um, human beings are walking contradictions and, uh, we'll say one thing and kind of mean another uh sometimes mean one thing and say another we definitely do things um that don't fall in line with a lot of our goals and things are just so comfortable sometimes you know like oh my god i
Starting point is 00:08:39 get go home to my beautiful wife and just have a meal that she cooked like what's the decision like oh am i gonna am i gonna you know as the ultimate warrior has got this speech where he goes just he goes just take your steel steering wheel and make that hard right drive your ass to the fucking gym sorry about the f drive your butt to the gym get into the squat rack and he's like in a pair of jeans and work boots, just start doing your squats. He's like, this is what you need to do for that day. So when I'm driving home from super training, I think about that a lot. I'm like, he's right, man. He's, he's got a good point. Just, just go and do the damn thing. It doesn't have to be this big ceremonious thing. Um, I don't have to record it. I don't have to be this big ceremonious thing.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I don't have to record it. I don't have to have proof that I did it. I don't have to show the world that I did it. I mean, as much stuff as there is on me on the internet, you would think that I film everything. But, you know, I've been working out with Kenny for probably about six or eight weeks now. We have some footage of that because we have Wyatt. He comes in and films some of that stuff. But I'm not like filming stuff off my phone. I run every day.
Starting point is 00:09:53 You know, you do see a lot of me running, but do you see the equivalent of me running every day? Like up, you might feel that way, but I don't record them all, you know? And a lot of times when I'm done, I'm like, I kind of should. And I'm like, no, no, you shouldn't. Who cares? It's for you, man.
Starting point is 00:10:11 It's for you. Did you do it? You did it, right? You're in agreement. You did it. OK, you did it. We don't need to show everyone else that you ran an 11 minute mile like no one cares. It's very slow.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Yeah. I wanted to kind of like focus in on the discipline when it comes to the diet um something i told you in enzima you know i went to my to my parents house you know just to go have lunch whatever it may be just to go visit and then i look in the kitchen and there's this tray of uh cinnamon roll pull-aparts. So basically, if you guys can imagine, a really gigantic pie sheet full of just the cinnamon roll centers. So this is where you get to take a mulligan. You get the freebie, the do-over.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Exactly. You get to have a couple cinnamon rolls. I'm disciplined AF, okay? I can handle this. And I'm like, but I'm going to have two of these because I've never even seen this. I didn't know this existed. I grabbed two, put them in the microwave.
Starting point is 00:11:06 You could have told me they came straight from Cinnabon and I would have been like, yeah, this tastes incredible. And it was just a lame piece of junk, junk food that you can get at any grocery store. Like not even a nice grocery store, like a Walmart, like whatever center they call them these days. And I'm like, dude, we are so like screwed.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Because if you can just go get this for, it was probably like eight bucks. Doing ordinary folk stuff, Andrew. And I'm like, whoa, like, man, we have the cards really stacked high against us because you don't have to go wait in a really long line at the mall or sometimes it's at the airport too. You can just, as you're picking up your whatever milk and cookies, you can just turn around and get this freaking amazing 10 pound tray of cinnamon roll centers. And I'm like, oh my gosh, it was so good. But if I had to look at that every day,
Starting point is 00:11:56 it'd be a struggle. So how the heck can we arm ourselves to have discipline to not even buy that or maybe see it again and be like you know what like i'm good i don't want to i don't want that in my body right now it's rare that you're going to have like hard strong impactful words at those moments to yourself and so the only thing i can think of is if you take action in other directions first before you get there, then that'll be helpful. So in the parking lot, you know, you're like my daughter. She's going to bug me to get those damn donuts. And if I buy the donuts, you know, don't you know, you got to coach yourself on this.
Starting point is 00:12:38 You got to be like, don't eat them. Or when you go into a family gathering, you got to understand like, oh, and so-and-so is going to bring those meatballs with the sausage and the, and they're going to be making like crazy sandwiches and everyone's going to like not care about their nutrition plan. And except for me, but I want to stay on it because of X, Y, or Z. So I think walking yourself through it beforehand, coaching yourself, visualizing it a little bit. I know this sounds like crazy talk and it sounds like we have an eating disorder and we probably do. But it's important to us. Everybody wants to feel like they're unique and everyone probably does feel that they're unique and everyone has the right to feel unique. But beyond that, I believe that every person has like a divinity within them. I think people have the power of a God within them.
Starting point is 00:13:26 That's my belief. And I've thought that for a long time now. And it, you know, you hear of miraculous things that people do all the time, um, where you're just like, holy crap, like that's, that seems completely unbelievable. And so I believe that everyone does have like this kind of spark in them, but I also believe that we'd really dampen it a lot with the foods that we eat, with the influences that we have. You know, I heard a speech by Alan Watts where he was talking about, you know, eight or nine o'clock at night, you could drive by, you know, you go most neighborhoods and you'll just see this flicker in the household and people are gathered around that flicker and he's talking about a tv screen it's like how interesting you
Starting point is 00:14:12 know like what what is happening on this flicker that we can't sit there and communicate with each other we got to watch we got to watch somebody else's life or somebody else's story being told to us i'm not even saying that's bad. It is interesting though. It's like, yeah, pretty much. I mean, I know TV is like a little different now and people, if they do have their TV on, they're looking at their phones at the same time. So there's some different things going on nowadays, but we're attached to electronics, right? And God forbid, we get in like good conversations with each other.
Starting point is 00:14:47 But there's so many distractions. And so you have to kind of walk yourself through each day with your distractions. When I'm waking up in the morning and as soon as I need, quote unquote, need my phone, I have to remind myself of what I need my phone for. I don't need my phone for Instagram. I need my phone. Maybe I'll check the time, but I also need to see like, what day is it? What workout am I doing?
Starting point is 00:15:12 What did I text Kenny? What time are we podcasting? Like I usually look at all that stuff at night, but I like to try to double check it in the morning as well. So those are the things that I need to look at. When I go and take a dump. Do I end up looking at Instagram? Yup. So, and then I've tried to like, uh, I've tried to even do things with that where, all right, don't bring the phone to the bathroom. You don't read often. So why don't
Starting point is 00:15:40 we see if we can read a little bit more? So I got books in there now. I have the Body by Breath from Jill Miller and I got a bunch of other books in there where I'm checking them out and I'll still bring the phone in there. I'm still guilty, but it's something that I'm working on and working towards. But just to kind of finish off that question of like, yeah, what do you do when you see those kind of sticky buns right there or donuts or whatever it is at the checkout, and you kind of have like a moment of weakness. I think it's all the other votes that you make for yourself. So let's say that day when you are faced with this choice or decision, let's say it's Wednesday, and Monday and Tuesday, you already hit the gym pretty good. hit the gym pretty good. And Wednesday you went on your 10 minute walk in the morning and you know,
Starting point is 00:16:31 you're already casting all these votes for yourself as a person that wants to improve, as a person that wants to get better. You also have brought the correct nutrition and nourishment into your household. Um, you, maybe you did some shopping on Sunday and you already have everything you need. So now when you see that food, you're like, damn, that really tastes good. But you're like, cost seven bucks. I don't need this. Seven bucks. Isn't like crazy amount of money or anything, but I don't need to spend $7 on that. I have so much good food at home. Like that's dope. That tastes really good, but I can make a protein shake that kind of mimics that I have so much good food at home. Like that's dope. That tastes really good. But I can make a protein shake that kind of mimics that. I have legendary food, tasty pastries that sort of taste like that. You can kind of, if you already have like voted for yourself, that you're good enough, strong enough, smart enough,
Starting point is 00:17:22 all these things to go in the direction that you're going in, which hopefully you already did by going to the gym and by having nutritious foods in the household, it's so much easier to be like, nah, I'm not doing that. And if like something that I've been working on for a while, like this is a long time ago that I used to do this method, but I used to think, all right, Taco Bell, disgusting. I just started doing that with things. McDonald's, disgusting. I love these things. I love McDonald's. I love Taco Bell. I love all fast food. I love fatty, gross, disgusting food that's cheap, inexpensive. I dig it all. Super fast. But I changed my mindset just to think that's disgusting. Like I'm not going to freaking eat that.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I don't need that. So I sort of worked on trying to convince myself of some of that. And it's not something that I do. I do like the flavor of those things, but I don't love it so much to where there's some sort of like giant magnetic pull to go eat that. much to where there's some sort of like giant magnetic pull to go eat that. Uh, the other thing, the other thing that I worked towards was again, just trying to, just trying to be like a little bit rational. Like does that go, how is it going to help? How's it going to hurt? Does that actually go towards your goal? Not every single thing that I do has to go towards my goal but i'd love 85 90 and shit nowadays i think if you can do 60 or 70 you're gonna be a lot further ahead than a lot of other
Starting point is 00:18:55 people so i think just try to keep those things in mind you know the ordinary regular decisions that hamper everybody else like let that keep holding people back be like i'm glad they have donuts right there because that motherfucker over there is good i'm sorry that mother sucker over there is gonna buy them and he's gonna be behind you know it's just like when you see a cop pulling someone over you're like god it's not me now i can go 90 that's a good way to put it yeah yeah you just got better than somebody and they got worse than you. They got worse-er-ist. Worse-er-ist, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:20:19 everywhere. Taking a dump's definitely the worst spot because you're secluded. No one's going to bug you and you're just right there scrolling. I have made the decision to take the Kindle in with me and then leave it there, but it's still there. It's collecting dust and my phone's still looking fresh, battery charged and then batteries depleted. But when I start picking up the Kindle and I pick it up the next day and the next day and the next day, it becomes a little bit easier. What is it about something like trying to stay disciplined and doing something consistently? Like what is it about that that might make it a little bit easier? That's the thing that's crazy is that it makes it easier or worse in both directions. So worse has worse outcomes and better has better outcomes.
Starting point is 00:21:05 That's why I say do more, be more. worse in both directions. So worse has worse outcomes and better has better outcomes. That's why I say do more, be more. They say, you want something done, give it to the busiest person in the room. You know, who, who's the person that here at Slingshot, who there's two people I can think of that come right to the top of my head instantly that still are here fairly often that I would give stuff to if I really needed it done. Do you know who they are? I mean, I would have just going to assume, let's see here, Ryan Soper probably would be a good option. Who else is here? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Andy? So Ryan Soper is a great choice. I was going to say Andy and Casey. Oh, there you go. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Ryan, of course. And video stuff, boom. I was going to say Andy and Casey. Oh, there you go. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Ryan, of course. Video stuff, boom, he's going to be done. Yeah, that was where my head went to right away.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Four minutes. And we have a lot of other great people here that are dedicated. We're not saying anything like that. But Casey and Andy do a lot in a day. They do a shit ton in a day. And, yeah, you want something done, they're going to be like, okay, yeah, all right, good. I got it. Casey came over to my house and like built my chicken coop.
Starting point is 00:22:12 He's crazy. He's out of his mind, that guy. We had him on the show. He talked about all the stuff that he does. He is boxing every morning. Then he works for eight, nine hours. And then he's wearing a weight vest the entire time he's working in his warehouse shipping product. And then right from there
Starting point is 00:22:31 on his way home, he hits up like a two mile run. Uh, and then, uh, oh, I'm sorry. He works out after I keep forgetting the workout part. He lifts after work. And then on his way home from there, he finishes things off with a run and Andy is up every day swimming and all these things, but positive equals more positive. So the more positive things you do for yourself, the more that you continue to show and prove yourself. I say prove yourself to yourself and improve yourself for yourself. Improving yourself sounds so simple. But if you did one push-up yesterday and you did two today, that's an improvement. If you jogged around the block and it took you 18 minutes and then the next day it took you 17 minutes, like you improved or even if it's the next week. Um, so things that, things that you do,
Starting point is 00:23:34 they will get easier and easier over time. I think it has a lot to do with like inertia, like just the start of something is a lot of times the hardest thing to do. And so you're, again, you're going to beat a lot of people just by starting. I was going to podcast, but you know, and then you're like, no, I don't know why, you know, you should be doing like, if that's something that you really wanted to do, you should, you should pursue it. Of course, you're going to be behind everybody if you didn't start and it's easy to think oh it's really competitive out there how do you even know maybe it's not competitive maybe the thing that you want to talk about maybe you want to talk about colonizing mars or some shit and you have
Starting point is 00:24:19 cool information how do you know that space is that part is taken up? I mean, it might not be there's, we've seen people with all kinds of, we see people, all kinds of popular Instagrams and YouTubes and stuff. I know just from simple training, just from simple working out. Like for example, I hate lunges and I hate pull-ups. I've never been good at either one. Like, for example, I hate lunges and I hate pull-ups. I've never been good at either one. Every time I go to do a lunge, it kind of hurts. I'm like, these suck.
Starting point is 00:24:51 A squat of 1,080 and a lunge kind of hurts. It's stupid. It's just dumb. But I've been working on them lately. I haven't really done any jumping until recently. And now I'm starting to like it. I'm starting to enjoy it. So it doesn't take long.
Starting point is 00:25:09 It only takes about two weeks before you start to kind of like stuff. And on the front with the pull-ups, I do pull-ups every other day and I'm mainly doing like eccentric pull-ups. I'm like, you know what, you kind of suck at pull-ups. I have a ton of excuses. I got old war injuries that make it a little more difficult. My strength to weight ratio isn't on par with what it needs to be for me to be able to do the pull-ups well. So I agreed that I'm just going to, I'm like, you know what? Three times a week, you're just going to do a couple eccentric pull-ups. All that is, is you jump and then you go down as slow as you can.
Starting point is 00:25:40 So I might hold for a count of like four or five and then just go down like excruciatingly slow. I'll do a couple of reps like that throughout a workout. I do it Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I just committed to it. Now we are about two and a half weeks in from me starting that. And it feels so much, it feels so much easier. It feels so much better already.
Starting point is 00:26:03 And now I'm kind of looking forward to it. I'm like, oh, you're already improving on those. You're already getting a little stronger on those. So as painful as something might be to start, the reward is going to be huge. And how difficult it will be down the road, it's not going to be that difficult at all. The thing that was overwhelming to you, I was actually just going through this in my head yesterday I was like I wonder if I should when I go to ST I used to get there a little earlier than uh than everybody else and no one's really here I'm like I just wonder if I should just like jog around the block I'm like it's just a mile run I
Starting point is 00:26:39 know I'm already a crazy person I already know that I probably over exercise, but I'm like, it's annoying to go into the gym and the gym's hot. And there's like not, there's, there's no other people here. There's not any energy, but what if I just, if I just go run, I'll bring the energy. I'll be warmed up. I'll feel, I'll feel good. I'll be in a good mood. Why not just go, go get it. You know, if I go run around the block, it will bring me energy. And then when Kenny comes in and Wyatt comes in, it will bring them energy. I've heard this from a friend of ours, and he actually listens to the show. But he was like, I love hearing your perspective on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:27:18 He's like, although I love Mark and Nsema, he's like, but they have that it thing where they'll get to the gym and they'll go run around the block before anybody gets there like I don't quite have that yet you know what I'm talking about though right like you have it like a lot of people don't have that how the heck can somebody build that hat like not habit or that that fucking killer instinct to be like you know yeah it's really hard and i'm gonna go make it way harder that's some crazy discipline yeah i i think it's a lot of just like confidence you know and um you know uh yeah it's it discipline being disciplined with something you know as
Starting point is 00:27:59 we're gonna we're gonna pull up this clip I think it will help sum a lot of things up. Yeah, you don't always love every tiny aspect of it. You know, there's going to be negotiations going on. There's going to be you going back and forth with yourself. And that's why I think developing an unflinching discipline is like one of the coolest fucking things you can do. And it's really not unflinching. Like you're still going to flinch. You. Like you're still going to flinch. You know, you're still going to flinch a little.
Starting point is 00:28:30 You're still going to have a conversation, but the second that the conversation starts to come up, you're like, nah, you ain't winning this one. Like this is going this way. I'm going to lean into this today. There's been a bunch of workouts kind of recently with Kenny where like to work out with a 21-year-old guy that, you know, has dreams to be a professional bodybuilder, it's not easy. And, like, we know that we're going to smash each other. We know we're going to, like, get after it.
Starting point is 00:28:58 So the beginning is, like, probably like a hard roll, like a hard jiu-jitsu roll where you're you know you're like feeling each other out and there's all this like bullshit going on forever and then 20 minutes 25 minutes in like the cherry gets popped oh yeah and the room is just changed completely um like maybe people were especially going to morning class like people are probably groaning and probably like, oh. Like that's how it is when you get into the gym. You do like a set of lateral raises with five pounds and you're like, oh, oh my God, it's killing me. And then you go to do like just a box squat with your own body weight and you're like, oh, and you feel it in your knees and everything. And even if you're not saying it, even if you're trying to be like stoic about it, you wear it.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Still, yeah wear it still. Yeah, still registering. Everyone can see how tired you are. You can feel how tired you are and see how tired you are. But the way that it works is once you start to do it, once you start to get your body in motion, a body in motion is going to want to stay in motion. And motion, we say often here, is the lotion. So once you get going, it not only like lubricates and warms up your body, but it warms up your brain. And something that occurred to me more recently that I shared with a friend of mine who's been on this like long weight loss journey, he's been doing a great job with it, but he
Starting point is 00:30:21 goes on and off his plan here and there. And I just told him, I said, you know, the gym, the coming to super training, going to the gym is for your mental side. The stuff that you do at home, the nutrition, the stuff that you do in your kitchen, the food prep, those things, that's for your physical body. So I think that people have it flipped. People have it the opposite way around. Training, physical, physical activity, doesn't matter what it is, doesn't matter if it's jujitsu, running, cycling, climbing, anything. That is going to do so much more for your mental side of you and your development.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Obviously, there will be development of your body. You could go from looking like a chubby 14-year-old kid to looking like an unbelievable 25-year-old man down the road. We've seen those transformations and stuff like that. So obviously there's things happening physically to the body as well, but the transformation in the mind is going to be so big. And then the transformation that you make more physically is actually going to come from the nutrition because you are what you eat. Yeah. Let's watch this clip. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Let me pull this up real quick. From Iron Mike, the greatest. Well, bam. It's doing what you hate to do, but doing it like you love it. I love that quote. Yeah. And that's what you have to do to be the best. Discipline is doing what you hate to do, but doing it like you love it. I love that quote. Yeah, and that's what you have to do to be the best. Discipline is doing what you hate to do, but doing it like you love it. I love that quote. Yeah, and that's what you have to do to be the best. Yeah, I mean, that's such a – you think about the people that we admire,
Starting point is 00:31:57 the people that we admire for the sports that they played. You know, Kobe Bryant, how many stories do you hear about Kobe? Like he was there after the game. He was there before the game. Um, he would even kind of get in other people's heads, you know, with how hard he worked before the game.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Yeah. It's like, what is he a complete lunatic? Um, but that was him expressing his discipline and him showing people like, man, there's something awesome off with that guy. Like, um, he's different off with that guy. Like,
Starting point is 00:32:25 he's different than everybody else. Like everyone in this league in the NBA is amazing, but this guy is not only amazing, not only I've seen him, you know, all these highlight plays that he does, but he's in here before the game, he's in here after the game, win, lose, or draw, and he's not spending time. I'm sure he would have loved to like go out and hang with his friends and just eat a giant bacon cheeseburger or something like that and get a couple drinks or whatever and just like that would feel amazing imagine imagine being you know someone like that and you go out and a bunch of people want to buy a couple drinks and stuff and people are all celebrating everyone's all fired up you just like want to play off game or something. But, but no, you're like, no, I need to get, I need to, I need to stay tethered to my discipline because that's the thing that got me here in the first place.
Starting point is 00:33:24 comes to, when it comes to being disciplined, you're not always going to love all the little tiny things that you do, but hopefully you enjoy the result. And I think maybe, you know, MJ, maybe, uh, Kobe and maybe some other people, you know, I don't know how much they enjoyed. Maybe they really did. Maybe they really did enjoy it. But it seemed like, I guess because like I personally am not on that level. I have no idea what it means to be like that. Like I strive and work hard and all that stuff. But let's just face it. Let's just call it what it is. These guys are on a completely different level.
Starting point is 00:33:58 These guys are the, you know,.000 fraction of a percentage of our population. So they're going to look weird and different to everybody. You know, so much to the point where they're going to be misunderstood. You're not going to be able to really calculate that really making any, you know, any sense to you. But that quote from Tyson, I think is dead on. There's going to be, you know, you're doing the thing that you hate, but you're doing it like that you hate but you're doing it like you love it because there is a there's a small chunk in there there's a small
Starting point is 00:34:30 piece in there that you really love and i think to get it to make it like a little deeper i think if you think about yourself it's like a reflection of yourself like how much do you hate yourself like there's parts of you that you there's parts of you that you hate more than anything else in the world for some reason like we're really we're really brutal on ourselves there's parts of you that you you dislike a lot and you're like man that part sucks but i think discipline is like that too there's like being disciplined to like a game or thing to powerlifting, whatever it might be. Like I love powerlifting. I, I loved hitting those big squats and those big benches and it was cool. You know, it was really still to this day. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Um, you know, my wife and I, we meet all kinds of people, people with giant, you know, jacked arms and triceps and people that are real huge. And my wife will just, she knows that, like, we kid around about it, but she's like, you outbench that guy. Like, kind of neat, you know what I mean? Like, kind of cool. Much the same way, like, a jiu-jitsu guy could go to, like, a concert and there could be 50,000 people there and you could say, I like my odds one-on-one with just about anybody here.
Starting point is 00:35:47 That is dope. That is really, really cool. So maybe you don't love the warm-up at practice. Maybe you don't love the stretching. Maybe you don't love the fact that maybe you need to start to foam roll and do a bunch of other stuff so your game can improve so you can go to those tournaments and kick some people's ass and if the time ever comes where you can like actually defend yourself in in a real battle but
Starting point is 00:36:11 there's going to be so many things that about it that you don't i mean you probably i've never well i have worn one before but it was so long ago like even just wearing a gi probably kind of sucks it gets hot quick yeah but you're totally used to it now yeah at first probably rubbing on stuff you know is it weird you know you feel kind of silly like just being honest like you're wearing a fucking rope a freaking robe you know like it feels weird because you have no idea what you are actually doing but yet you look exactly like the guy that does know what he's doing. And you're like, yeah, I got this thing on, but it's like, I got to wear it to be here. You know, it's one of those things. But then now it's like, which one am I going to wear today? Like I get, or, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:53 where, where tomorrow they get kind of fired up for it, you know? Cause I'm like, oh, I get to wear the one that I like more than the one I wore yesterday, you know? So yeah, you get used to it for sure. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. It's, it, it takes a while to get used to, uh, you get used to it for sure. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it takes a while to get used to even just going on the mats and any of these things, right? Like your feet got all jacked up. With lifting, same thing. I mean you go to lift a weight and you forget like, oh, shit, like it really hurts your hands. And on the topic of building discipline and building mindset. And you hear David Goggins talk about callusing the mind. I thought like, man, what a wonderful explanation of like what it is that
Starting point is 00:37:30 you're doing with your mind is you are callusing it. So over, over a period of time, like, look, the run around the block, like running around the block for me, uh, when I was powerlifting, no, there would be no scenario where that would have happened. That would have made me, that would have literally for the day made me weaker. I wouldn't have been able to lift the way I wanted to. And it wouldn't have fell in line with a lot of the things that I was going for at the time. However, what if I did it for three months? If I did it for three months and got used to it, who knows? Maybe I would have even been stronger because there would have been an adaptation going on. Maybe I'd be more fit and recover from my workouts better. Maybe my legs would be stronger at the end of a powerlifting meet because I have more endurance or something like that. You don't really know, but getting connected to that discipline and figuring out a way to string together consecutive days or
Starting point is 00:38:29 however you can organize it in your mind. I'm going to go once a week. I'm going to go three times a week. I do think, I would say that sometimes doing something once a week, unless it's like scheduled, I think can be a mistake because I don't think it's enough. I don't think it's enough of a challenge. Like, again, so if somebody is like, oh, I'm just going to work out like I'm going to start working out tomorrow, but I'm only going to do, you know, 10 minutes of working out. I just don't think that's enough of a challenge for most people to stay connected. It's not exciting enough. So that's why you probably need like, oh, I'm going to, you know, go to the gym for 30 days straight or whatever it might be. But, and it might need to be like
Starting point is 00:39:15 a little bit more than just like a, that's a 10 minute walk. I suggest 10 minute walks all the time. I don't think, even though I suggest them and people do them, I think they often get pushed to the side. It's not enough of a challenge. So people rather talk about David Goggins four by four by 48, which is you run four miles every four hours for 48 hours. So even in the middle of the night or whatever, you wake up and you go, you go run your, you go run your four miles. People would rather talk about that because that's like you've got to step up, right? You don't have to step up to do like a 10-minute walk. Yeah, because that would be like, I don't know,
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Starting point is 00:41:04 first stranger that we saw just was like, he looked like he had just gotten done crying and he was just like shaking his head. He's like, damn Kobe. You know, that was, that was crazy. Right. And I think it was because of his discipline while he was alive, the whole country was like, oh my gosh, like, damn Kobe's gone. So my question is, do you think that just by way of discipline, it can be a streamline for somebody to kind of make something of themselves? Oh yeah, a hundred percent. I think it's huge. You know, I do think, you know, whether you love it or you hate it is an interesting thing. I think that somebody like Kobe Bryant must have, he must have really loved the outcome
Starting point is 00:41:44 because if we're talking about things being hard and we're talking about like a callusing of your hands or your mind, well, you know, when you go through that callusing process, it's painful. But you go through it once and then you got calluses. Now your hands are good to go. However, they can go back to being soft and not have calluses if you completely discontinue, if you completely fall off. So you got to stay connected to it in some ways. But the start of stuff is always going to be difficult. And someone like Kobe Bryant, for him to stay after a game probably wasn't hard. And someone like Kobe Bryant, for him to stay after a game probably wasn't hard.
Starting point is 00:42:30 And a lot of what Tyson was talking about when Tyson was young and he would wake up at four o'clock in the morning and go run. He was always skipping rope and doing these things. Yeah, he probably didn't really always love them. He he may have even kind of hated them. But ultimately, I think that if you hate those things, I do think it burns you. And, uh, you know, Tyson ended up like losing his way later on. He would gain a lot of weight in between fights. And I think he, I think because he ultimately ended up kind of hating some of those disciplines that got him to be amazing.
Starting point is 00:42:59 And then he would kind of teeter totter and get kind of out of shape. He got beat by Buster Douglas and a lot of other things kind of unraveled. And I'm not saying that you have to love it. But what I am saying is that if you don't stay connected to the discipline, the energy that it takes to get yourself back to those heights, like the recalicing of your body, mind, spirit again, is too much. It's really, really hard. And that's why I think a lot of people fall off and you don't see them in the gym anymore. You don't hear them talking about their diet anymore.
Starting point is 00:43:33 It's because now that snowball melted and they got to start to push another one up the hill and try to get all that snow to accumulate to turn into a giant ball to roll it down the other side of the mountain but that's what discipline will do for you discipline is you rolling that snowball getting it to be gigantic and then watching it go downhill if you do all the work do all the work you go to all the all the practices you go to some seminars and everything and then you go and do
Starting point is 00:44:02 jiu-jitsu against people you're probably going to do really well. Maybe you don't win every match, but you're probably gonna do really well. And that's that ball rolling down the other side. And you're like, wow, that was pretty cool. Then you're like, well, maybe I'll try this other tournament. This is my other one's harder. You try, uh, maybe you do a local powerlifting meet, but then you do like a state powerlifting meet and then a national powerlifting meet and then an international powerlifting meet. Like it just gets, it gets tougher and tougher as, as you go. And you always have to kind of start back at the bottom of that mountain and you look up and you're like, man, you know, and, and after a while you can start to think that's why I don't powerlift anymore. Cause I don't want to keep going up that mountain. And
Starting point is 00:44:43 I don't, that's not my, I don't have a desire to do that anymore. I did it over and over and over again. I did it for like 30 years. And after some time and you accomplish a lot, you're like, all right, well, that was pretty cool. I'm going to go try something different. I didn't really mean to try something that was completely opposite of what I was doing before, but, uh, that's, that's kind of the way, that's kind of the way it turned out. But if you, if you want to like stand out, if you want to be somebody that is, uh, just a little different than everybody, you're going to need to have disciplines. And I think what you're pointing
Starting point is 00:45:22 out with Kobe Bryant, I think that is what made people so attracted to him because he did have his flaws and I think while he was here there were some people who were like pissed at him and some some people didn't always like that he was like a carbon copy of Jordan there's a lot of things that people didn't like about him but you couldn't really disrespect his willingness to go all in and to participate and play. And like, just,
Starting point is 00:45:50 he went all out. He went all out and like all aspects, whether it was training or, you know, working on a shot or working on particular aspects of his game, he went all in on those things. And I think that's what people really respected a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:04 That was a great conversation. You got anything else to add on um man I know I got a shit ton I got a lot out of this podcast yeah I think I just kind of in closing I would just say just make sure the things that you do make sure you really enjoy them and if you feel like you're really forcing yourself to do something then whether it's your diet, you're you running or playing baseball or whatever it might be, you know, make sure it's not for your parents. Make sure it's not for your brother or your sister or like, do you actually, you know, somebody told you that, I don't know, maybe someone told you like, it'd be a good idea for you to start to exercise more because you're heavy or you got this in your head that you need to go exercise a bunch because you're heavy, which some exercise would be a good idea.
Starting point is 00:46:52 But maybe you're choosing the wrong exercises or the wrong type of exercise. Maybe you should look into like trying something more fun. You know, maybe you used to like riding your bike or maybe you used to like playing basketball can you find a buddy to like start doing that with again or just find something more fun find some sort of introductory thing um you know i i look at uh i think my son is a good example like when he started coming here to super training started training he pretty much would just hang out on the preacher curl. You know, now I can kind of make fun of him for it. Like, Hey, remember you were like preacher curl King. You're on the preacher curl all the time. But when I started to, it was like, there was no one watching me. Like my dad wasn't in the gym with me and my dad wasn't, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:38 he wasn't a fitness guy. So he didn't, it wouldn't have mattered anyway. But, uh, for my son, it was like way different. But in observing that, I'm like, you know what, this is really cool. So whenever I had conversations with him, he would kind of ask questions here and there. And I was like, well, you know, you don't really need to train like a maniac, you know, like just because he would ask about intensity and the weights and stuff. I was like, you're going to lift more weight and you're going to be stronger over time anyway because you're here. There's no reason to there's no reason to make like the development of these calluses way harder than than is necessary. We could have you write everything down and be super meticulous and all that.
Starting point is 00:48:23 But for now, there's really no reason. And now you might see him in there once in a while with like a notepad. He's like writing stuff down. He was pumped. He got a good PR on the bench the other day. He was pretty excited about that. And so he is kind of tracking stuff and paying a little bit more attention. But I think that a lot of people's journey and same thing with him playing instruments
Starting point is 00:48:45 playing the guitar and stuff he just goes in his room and just jams on his guitar puts it down comes out eat some chicken breast and some rice pops back in there and he's playing again it's like kind of neat you know and yeah i would love to like give him the speech like you know you you should be in a band and you should get a group together and you but like he needs to just do all that on his own and it's interesting how good you can get at something when you actually enjoy it so while the quote from Tyson is cool you also have to realize you know Tyson was world champion he was the baddest man on the planet for a very particular reason I don't think that your journey needs to look the same, you know, even if you want to get like shredded or you want to make a lot of money, whatever it is that your goal is, even if your goal is high, I don't think you have to be a
Starting point is 00:49:35 crazy lunatic about it, but you will have to have discipline at some point. You'll have to have some discipline to it. And again, I just want to encourage you to find the things that you like and that you enjoy because it really won't feel like a chore to have the discipline towards those things that's how I feel every day and that's why every day I'm pumped and I'm fired up and we shot stuff for anabolic activities this morning I lifted this morning and now we're doing Saturday school. And when I'm done with this, I'm going to go run. And after that, I'm going to pick up my daughter and then I go home and probably take her and Jake to some dinner tonight. So,
Starting point is 00:50:13 you know, I'm a kind of normal dad when it comes to that kind of stuff. And I just have developed disciplines and developed a skills set over time that just makes things easier for me. Like I, there's not, when I drive home from here, there's not a lot of like conversation in my head about like, should you run or shouldn't you run? Or like, no, it's kind of like mapped out. I don't have it necessarily written down, but it is mapped out. It is planned out. That's why like I'll hit i hit you up recently to run like let me just get it on andrew's like calendar like we yeah it's been a couple days
Starting point is 00:50:51 since we did our last run and i know you want it and i want to you know i'm excited for you for your tournament and stuff i want to see you kick ass so i should probably hit him up again and just say hey within the next couple days and you're you're like, all right, maybe Thursday. And so now maybe that'll be, you know, maybe tomorrow we hit up a run. But it's just easier when you get in conversation and communication like that with somebody else or even just with yourself. Like, when are you going to do this damn thing? You want to be more dedicated to something. There's so much great evidence out there that if you write something down and you have it like in the calendar that you're going to do it more. Think about like the dentist appointment.
Starting point is 00:51:36 You probably don't really miss a dentist appointment unless you completely forget about it. That's the only way you'll miss it is if you just completely forget about it. But the appointments for ourselves, we don't keep them. That 730 appointment for you to train in the morning, that's the one that you'll miss. Write it down. Maybe put it in your phone. Put it in your calendar. Have a fucking reminder, an effing reminder somewhere where you can.
Starting point is 00:51:59 And I think that'll help a lot. Andrew, take us on out of here, buddy. Big time. Thank you, everybody, for checking out today's episode. Please drop those comments down below, especially if you're on Spotify. We've been seeing those comments come in, and it's really, really cool because when we think of a podcast platform, we don't really think about people interacting. But you guys have been, and we publish all of them, so please keep them coming in. And, of course, if you're on YouTube, let's get the conversation going.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Let us know what you guys think about today's podcast. And somewhere on screen, I don't know exactly where we did a podcast. I know Mark was just explaining how like you got to enjoy what you're doing to stay disciplined. But we talked about like how much torture you can endure. Well, like, like, I forgot how we worded it. But basically, that's how successful you'll be is how much torture you can handle. So that's popping up on screen somewhere. So make sure you guys go check out that episode after this one's over. Follow the podcast at MBPowerProject all over the place. My Instagram's at IamAndrewZ. Mr. Mark Bell, where you at?
Starting point is 00:52:52 I'm at Mark Smelly Bell, and I want to suggest the book, which I've suggested many times, by James Clear, Atomic Habits. It just has so much great, simple information that you can apply right away. Strength is never weakness. Weakness is never strength. Catch you guys later. Bye.

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