Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast - Ep 473 - Sister's Hot Dog (feat. Duncan Trussell)

Episode Date: December 22, 2023

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Start it We're here dude thanks again. I'm good. Thank you. Oh, I'll kill over and die Yeah, I know these are awful. I'd probably be fine, but I'll just start like salivating they make me like they make me like Feels like when I was like steel cigars when I was little you have too much nicotine my stomach gets all fucking crampy I've objected I've omitted the other day. I got the sixes And I've been doing these three and I've forgotten just, I'd taken vitamins and I was like sort of like compulsively putting them

and then just out of the blue, just suddenly like, what is this? Spray vitamins. It's like a kid in the woods when you and your friend do dip and like they swallow the spit and they're like, blah, blah, so fucked up man.

Kinda tight though. Yeah, felt weird. It's okay. What time was it? It was like the middle of the day. It was right before I do this live thing with my Patreon. So I had to be like, excuse me.

And I'd go and just fucking projectile vomit and then just wipe my face off like some heroin junkie. Oh. And then just start the show. Like thank you for our sponsors. Thank you, Dazinn. I'm trying to get addicted to nicotine. I take them, but I get like a spicy throat and my stomach starts like I get like hiccups and shit.

Oh, poison! Oh, well. I mean, that's your body reacting to poison. Trying to get into arsenic, you know what I'm saying? Everyone goes and I want them, dude. I want to take them and then like write like a Hemingway I'm trying to get into arsenic, you know what I'm saying? What, everyone goes on, I want them, dude. I want to take them and then like write like a Hemingway

ask novels. Oh, yeah, that's definitely what they do. Oh my God, my writing skills, 50% better. True. It's amazing. Well, dude, thanks for doing this for real. I appreciate it, man. Anytime I was promised.

I was so excited to hang out with you. Thanks for coming down. I'm a new thing now is a take charge attitude. I'm a take charge can do attitude. So, we're starting to sing up right now. We got your zins in, I got my fucking match. Hell yeah. Yeah, man.

Well dude, so I don't know how to start. I'm always feeling weird starting these out, but like, I know you, I know your stuff. I like, I saw them in like Oswald. I had to watch last couple nights. I started watching that very fucking sick. Thanks, man So how like not to be too formal or weird but like how did you what was like your early

Experiences like like what got you into all this stuff and it will I just I don't know if you're like trajectory or anything I don't know like how you end up into the midnight gospel or into what life in general. Oh, oh Sonia childhood I'm thinking about that because your mom was a therapist. And she got banged by my dad. There we go. Inpatient or no? What?

Was he a patient? Was he a patient or was he a patient of hers? Was he an analisian? He became a therapist. Really? Yeah. So, no, but he was a patient. She was visiting him.

She was doing like service work. And so he was a patient at the Bruton's Wic, it closed down but it was what they call like mental assignments, you know, I don't think they call him that anymore because it a mental asylum. She was doing like service work, she'd bring them food or little toys and stuff because like they like to play with toys. Like so she brought him, you know, she loved telling the story so she brought him, as she loved telling the story, she brought him this like a baby rattle.

You'd be surprised how many people in middle of silence just fucking love baby rattles. That's me, sorry. It's all good. Hold on one second. Is this, are you fucking with me? Is this a real story? Yeah.

Shit, okay, hold on, sorry. I'm so sorry, I don't know how to turn this off. It measures my blood sugar. They do it's all good. So Yeah, they love rattles and stuff Various toys bells and all that past fires, but he loved this fucking rattle and he lost it But she bought an extra Rattle. Yeah, so she gave He was so happy, so exuberant. The way she put it is, she just saw through the madness, the history of crime and stuff

that people like that go through. And they made love. What? In the asylum. She gets fired. You can't hump in a manual shot. For sure. He gets out because of some kind of like loophole. And then, you know, she's, they get married. What? Yeah. And that was just... Yeah, that's... Are you fucking with me?

Yes! That is not a true story. I'm so sorry. I don't know what! Dude, that's dumb! I knew you were fucking with me, but then I didn't want to be like, yeah, right? I'm sorry. You did a good job pretending you believe me. I have that stuff. I knew you were fucking with me, but then I didn't wanna be like, yeah, right, you're right. I'm sorry. You did a good job pretending you believe me. I have believed you.

I have. There was, I'm a very goalable person. Yeah, man, I just, I don't know. I don't know the exact way. I am too. We don't, we don't have to start preconception. I, I don't know. I, you know, you know, you know that thing

where you try to figure out why you are where you're at? Yeah. And then you're at. And then you can't. You can't. And none of it really makes it like in the same way like you wake up from a dream. One second, you were like in a cave. There was a tiger stalking outside the cave. The next second, you're in a bar with the next girlfriend.

But in the. Out all, yeah, true. In a dream, you don't think like what the fuck, there was just a tiger. Yeah. You know, it's similar, it feels the same way in waking life too. I had a very embarrassing dream last night. Yeah. It wasn't anything like terrible.

Like it was just, I've been the thing I think about a lot. It's how I used to always pride myself. For a while I got diluted to the point where I was like, I don't like care about stuff other people care about. Other people care about that shape, but not me. I'm not, I don't, you know, it's like you're doing it here,

like I'm not one of those people who like, compare myself to other people. I'm way above it. And I've been like paying attention to that because I was reading this book on like, yungy and stuff about how your brain sends you basically images from the external world to try to like explain your internal world

to you through the images. Yeah. So I'm like, all right, I was kind of pumped on that. I had a dream last night. This is a state I might was kind of pumped on that. I had a dream last night. This is a state I might, the reality of my life. I had a dream last night. I'm in a car and someone was like, yo, it's Obama. And I'm like, I don't even care.

He went to go talk and he went to fall and I, he like slipped and I went to catch him. And then like my bicep was boldering. And I was like, got you bro, no big deal. I turned to everyone. Did you see my bicep right there? Then I woke up and I'm like, god damn it dude. Oh, I care just like everybody knows.

I know. I know. I know. It was such a pathetic dream of a guy. Did you guys see my bicep? Dude. And it is funny how your brain descends you messages are real like, yeah, I'm above that shit.

Oh my God, your brain itself for the little cries for help. You know, like, just sad, pathetic, and neurological attempts to like get you back to where you are. But it's amazing really. Yeah. Dude, I know, it's just the whole situation here.

It's just ridiculous. I mean, we're like having to afford it constantly with this self, this thing. I know. I have to keep feeding and bathing and. Well, it's a problem. You can't deny it. I tried to deny it all the time.

I try to do a thing I didn't watch porn for. I made it, I tried to make it all the time. I try to do a thing. I didn't watch porn for like, I made it, I tried to make it for a year. Nice. Good job. I made it for nine months, but it's pretty good. But then you just start thinking about it constantly. And you're like, why am I just gonna be watching? I'm thinking about it a little, and it's just this like vicious loop.

I can never. That's it. Yeah, you just, you know, you, you, you have a really quit anything if you're constantly thinking about it. You've just internalized the addiction and you're getting off on the echo that's being around in your head. It's like, you know, health, you know, when you're not thinking about how you feel, you're

healthy. You know, that means you're, you know, health usually is just like a lack of symptoms to the point where you're just taking that current state for granted. True. So like when you really kick something, you don't even think about it anymore. It's just gone. When the relationship is truly over when you're not thinking about the person anymore, it's

yeah, the quality of the mind that like engulfs external reality and then echoes it, simulates it, resurrects it, kills it, nonstop. That is very frustrating for sure. Yeah, it sucks, man. Especially when you think you're above it all, and you have the dream to you, you're gripping Obama and you're like, just so you know, I'm not impressed by you at all. Everyone did you just see what I just did? Above it all.

I want to be above it all. I want to breach like a fucking whale right out of the de-fart reality and look down on all these whirlings and roll my fucking whale eyes. You know, and then just go back down. Like I guess I'll be with you with whirlings for a little bit longer. But it just so you can't, the problem is, if everything you see is an approximation,

a neurological approximation made by your mind. And then you can't be above anything because everything you're seeing is your mind. So how the fuck do you get above that? Fuck. You're exactly, it's you. You're fucking, you're seeing, it's like on Twitter. I had a big Twitter epiphany

as I'm like scrolling through my timeline, I'm just like, God damn man, fucking Twitter sucks. This shit is, but everyone's so fucking negative. And then I remember, I followed every one of these people. Like I decided to tune into their realities. They're not burdening me with whatever the fuck it is they're bitching about. I invited them in.

This is all my fault. I did this. It's your universe as a creation of yours. Yeah. Yeah, you get it. The whole time line. The absurd stuff. Yeah, that's the weird thing online right now where it's like, I love you just fun to send

reals and stuff to each other. Like, look at this fucking cringy loser and you send it to your friend. He's like, yeah, he's a fucking piece of shit. And then you're like, ha, and then I'll catch myself doing this for hours. I'm like, what the fuck am I doing? It's the best. Slow mini crucifixion. Yeah.

Check out this fucking loser. You're friends like, I need to nail him down a cross of judgment. Well, that's the, so if you walk around in public, and it's again, it is like this is the vicious circle of it. Cause it's like,

I'll, I'll, I'll be like, listen to when people talk, I like eavesdrop and it's, I swear to God, it's 90% of the time. You'll see two ladies, two guys, wherever a lot of times I can hear

the ladies' conversation better, but like they'll be like fucking, like they're always talking about another person. How they're failing. I swear to God, if you just sit around on like a public place, it's non-stop conversations about like fucking Cynthia's be fucking bitch.

And I'm like, I'll be like, dude, people are so fucking negative. And I'm like, I'm talking shit on them. It's like, exactly, you're joking. You're joking, you're joking. Cynthia, Cynthia is a bitch. I'm bad Cynthia is a bitch, but why is she a bitch? She's a fucking bitch because everyone around her

is talking shit about other people. So it's just, you're just, it's a fucking never ending neurological echo. We're raiding around like the universe, and it's just totally normal to see you and me as different. I mean, we obviously were supreme. Yeah. So, supreme, we rise.

What is it we were saying in the green, though, you said, I rise above humanity like what'd you say? Is it eagle or falcon? It was beautiful. I do this other people. Don't do this to me. I like putting terrible things in the mouth. Miss quotes.

Yeah, true. You bet. Well, don't, I mean, I just like for the, the, the, where it gets really all areas is so then, okay okay, so now you are upset because you have not met your, whatever particular ridiculous spiritual watermark you're supposed to be at, which for a lot of people is just like,

it's insane. I don't even know what that is. Like, are you numb? So it's gonna be like, there's numb Jesus who's like, nothing touches you, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing moves the needle. Anything short of that, I'm furious. Yeah, yeah, exactly, right.

So the final curse is that you end up talking shit about yourself to yourself. So you know, first you're thinking you're talking shit about other people are mentally confabulating what's wrong with them. Then you're mad at yourself because you recognize this is not a way to live. If I'm gonna be perturbed by other people's idiocy,

then I'm just gonna be in hell. Look at you, you pathetic piece of shit, sitting at a fucking hole foods, leaves dropping like a perv-o on fucking, so accurate. You sick fuck. Let's say wrong. So first you're crucifying them,

they're crucifying Cynthia, you're crucifying a simulated version of them, then you crucify a simulated version of yourself. Oh, it does it stop. And it's a never ending iterative wave of self crucifixions, everyone's just nailing fucking nails through hands all day long. All day every day. It's exhausting.

Have you ever tried to crucify someone? I mean, I think I bet one thing they're happy about with Jesus. hands all day long. All day every day. It's exhausting. Have you ever tried to crucify someone? I mean, I think I bet one thing they're happy about with Jesus. I bet he's pretty easy. He was thin. Yeah. So crucify, but he's also kind of, I don't see him fighting. Like he didn't struggle.

There's no punching. He's just laughing. Yeah. But I bet like a lot of other people on those days did not take so. Spitting your face and stuff. Spitting in your face. Yeah. Puking on you. Fear piss.

Fear sweat. Fear stink. I always talk to people, they're always like, dude, it was probably so different back then. It wasn't that different. I'm like, yeah, it fucking was, dude. You'd walk and see a dude's head on a spike. Yeah.

That's way different. Even if people still argued and shit, walk outside your house and see it, dude, severed head. For like doing something not that bad, probably. They get you, god damn it, I don't know how to turn it off. I see, I'm gonna explain the backstory of this and it's really embarrassing.

So your mom had sex with a mental patient. Yeah. I can't believe you lied to me, dude. I'm sorry, that was a cheap joke. No, that was really funny because I was like There's no way there's a real then you're like and then they may love and I'm like I mean I could kind of see it Let me see if I can turn this thing up dude, you should probably keep it up if it's No, life's it is that life-saving? No, the problem is I

I Don't think you can you can I can change the alert sounds I don't think you can, I can change the alert sounds, which is really fun of ambulance, siren, screaming woman. You're gonna die, grim re-prieling, you're gonna die. Hold on one second, this is really bad podcasting. I'm so sorry, the problem is, I have a little ear infection, so I had to get on steroids to,

here we go, to clear my ear, and it pushes your blood sugar up when you're in steroids. So this asshole all day long is like... Oh, there's no wire connected. That's just taking the glucose measurement. It connects to this needle that stuck in my arm. You're just like a constant blood sugar reports, which is the most annoying fucking thing,

because my, like, thank Jesus. It used to connect to my wife's phone, and it just stopped, which is just so great. So she would get kind of like, if you ate a cookie, you were like a car alarm, you would start, your thing would go off. I'm like one of the daily lilies. Yes, a tagged animal.

She could track me, nose my fucking, my fucking blood sugar level at every. God damn, fucking second. Damn. And it's wonderful because she's just trying to keep me alive. But for sure. It's obviously very normal. It does take the fun out of who stole the cookies

from the cookie jar. It does. Like who, me I don't want I don't want you to do a Bob sack what happened to Bob's Saga to happen to you what happened to him didn't he get like hitting the head with a hammer or something he didn't it wasn't blood sugar he fucking like out of bloody it was something terrible and I tell him that no one understands but yeah can you not put that in my fucking head? True. What about to go in the road? Oh, you're gonna die.

She's where you're gonna die in a hotel room. Now when I'm like taking a shower after a show, I'm like, and look down at the floor. I'm like, oh, what if I slip and fucking hit my head and then things start going off and, oh. Yeah, I think about that with old age. It's like, you're, because they all take tumbles. When you're old, you fall and like break your femur and you have to know like it's coming. Um, oh yeah.

I mean, this is, it's just so scary. You get stuck in bathtub. You think we should let them drive old, super old people? No. Yeah, I think I don't think so. I mean, if I can't, if I, okay, so if I'm not allowed to drive after a couple of Augustotas, that's a good point.

Where the fuck are you allowed to drive when, you know, you, your brain is... You're dying. You're pulpified and melting. It's like you have triple vision, weird blurry shit. You're on a cocktail of medication. So, oh, go ahead. No, drive all day long with two Valkyceras.

Your car's gone. Yeah, you don't know what day it is. Yeah, I saw an old couple cutting through. I was like watching them drive, like kind of arguing with each other and both slumped over the wheel. And I'm like, you really do become a child again. And then I was like, Holy fuck, they're driving. Yeah, they're driving.

That's terrifying. I saw an old lady run over people outside of church one time. Oh. Just she just spaced out and just slowly. It wasn't too fast, but she fucking like, you know, 10 miles an hour with a car, it does fuck you up. Dude. She's like, bonk and just hit like three people.

I could not get this out of my head. It was some awful dark piece written by a forensic, like a first thing that does autopsy and describing, he's like describing the look on the face of a grandmother after she's backed the car over Grand Charles head. Ooh. The smell of the Grand Charles brain in the air.

Yeah. I can't get that out of my head. The brain? Yeah, I guess brain. No, you, it was stink, yeah. It smelled like a fucking brain. Brains are pungent. Nasty cut.

Yeah, there's apparently a brain smell. At least if you're like an autopsy master, I don't know why they call them. Then autopsy master is a good chef. But you, you, autopsy master. Like dead bodies. Chef Gordon Ramsay. That might be where it goes, man. Women might get sick of true crime and just start watching horrific autopsies.

Yeah. Just like cutting dead people in the room. Oh God, you ever meet a, like some, an undertaker? No. Oh boy. Only for a second it was outside of funeral. He said, hey, so sorry. I said, thank you so much.

You're like, yeah, I sure you are. You're fucking sorry and in by the premium casket. Yeah, I'd be funny if they're listening to comedy podcasts too outside and they're just like, Pfft. Dude, they'd be funny if they're listening to comedy podcasts too. Outside and there's like, Pfft. Dude, they are. It's a business. That's a fucking huge booming business right now,

especially in, uh, they, I must've been nice. Yeah, I'd do our, COVID and stuff is being like, chugging dude. You're watching, imagine watching the news and like a hundred thousand people died being like, yes.

You're just like, oh, fuck. Yeah, hey, day. This is better than Bitcoin. This is very, very, very, and people died being like, you're just like, oh fuck, yeah. Payday. This is better than Bitcoin. This is very dark. This is the real crypto. It's gotta be crazy when they get slow when you're like, yo, come on man.

Come on, come on. The last one dies, and I thank fucking God dude. Yeah, that's the, like anytime I go to a doctor, I can't, you know, just because, you know, it's comedians, we're always thinking about selling tickets and what you're charging for tickets, how are you doing it shows? Yeah.

And you know, that's in anyone's mind who has a business. Oh, yeah. And you go to the doctor and it's a strange form of, like almost prostitution in the sense that the ideal is, I will tend to hear wounds because the reward from tending to these wounds is all I need. That's the fantasy of the healer.

The hypocrite is snake and all that shit. Yeah, but they have kids. For sure. It's expensive to, they're getting sued nonstop. It's expensive to they have medical or medical school debt usually hundreds of thousands of dollars they have. Other way in debt. Up there underwater and like you know like when you go in there and they give you a diagnosis, they've already calculated, oh great, that's another at least 60 grand this year.

Like for sure, I'm gonna like make $60,000 more. Yeah, my brother was saying, so one of my uncles just had like, he's far and thank God, but he had like a little thing of cancer and he was saying you go in there, and you're like, it's like an airport terminal now. Like it's just like a big building with a ton of people in seats and they're just blasting them radially, and he's like, dude, it's like an airport terminal now. Like it's just like a big building with a ton of people in seats,

and they're just blasting them radially. And he's like, dude, it's like the DMV. You're sitting there with a ton of people. Oh yeah, I get this blast and blast and blast. Radiation clinics, I've got radiation. It's just like, you're sitting around, like everyone's just like, oh, this sucks so fucking bad, it's so expensive.

You go in there. They put a Lead cod piece on my dick. Okay cup. Yeah to keep you from becoming infertile Oh, and the music they chew they are playing music that they like you know They're not asking you what music do you want to listen to while you're getting already aided? So they're playing I got yes or radiated. So they're playing. It's a lady Gaga. Yes. Exactly. It's nursery music, yeah. Or like they're not thinking about like once I was in there and you're probably dead. Yeah, you're getting like the Darth Vader fucking

that shit that you should be playing this with. Yes, into it. Yeah, into my, and it's just, so yeah, when it hits that level of just profit motive and they know, man, people have worked to figure out how do we make it faster? Like what is the maximum dose of radiation that we can give to make it faster with the least possibility of some negative impact

on the patient? Explode. But you want to keep them fucking move and like, let's look at it. And you're like, come on, got, meetings are probably, guys, you can get that fucking copies on faster. True. You got to get that shit faster, man.

And we can fit in two more people a day in the course of a year. That's a million, half million dollars. True, yeah, they get you pumped up. Yeah, that's fucked, dude. Now I'm thinking, maybe they know how to do it and keep your hair in, but they want your hair to fall out. It's people like, oh yeah, I got my shit done.

That way you're advertising radiation. Yeah, I got radiation. I should probably get that. Yeah, dude. I might get it. I might just get blessed. Oh, it sucks. You're rated. It's terrible. It's dude. I might get it. I might just get blast. Oh, it sucks Terrible. Yeah, it's terrible makes you sick like preventative medicine though just go once a year and it's get I'm gonna start getting chemo just fucking get chemo once preventative chemo

Why not? Yeah, just yeah, don't go for each at my body will regenerate it'd be nice. Yeah, yeah, don't go over your body, we'll regenerate, that'd be nice. Yeah, yeah, it might not. I sure like, I think I like it very sick. They were telling me, now when I was choosing with the re radiation chemo, cause I always think in the same thing, like let's just fucking fire bomb. That's the difference.

One of them can, like the doctor was just like, get re radiation, you're like, you're the statistical. Oh, it's like more local. You know, when you get cancer, it're the statistical, you know, they, when you get cancer, it becomes the worst gambling game of your life, because it's all just probabilities. So if you get chemo, you will have maybe one percent less chance of the cancer recurring with testicular cancer. I think it's, you're starting, but if you do, but your lungs might turn into goop.

Your lungs might just fucking dissolve. Now if you're radiation, there's a one, one percent more of a chance that it won't catch it, it won't do it, and you might become infertile. So you're like, okay, lungs into goop become infertile. So you're like, okay, lungs into goop, become infertile, 1%, was that 1% look like?

So you have to make all these weird decisions that they can't make for you, you have to choose. Yeah, true. Yeah, and so yeah, chemo, from what I've heard, like, it's nasty. It's nasty, but it's good. Yeah, I've talked to people who've done it.

Super high, not never held up. You get really beautiful. You get the chemo high. Oh yeah, just black. Oh boy, it's stuck out. I can smoke weed now, sick. Dude, no, I'm happy that you're for anybody out there, like, is recovered from the,

man, because this is recovered from it. I mean, because this is a scary diagnosis. It ain't terrifying. But last scary thing used to be. True. COVID was everyone had a face death at once. That was the best. I did like that about that.

Everyone had to be like, I might die. Me too. I was living there, I'd been living there for years. Everyone met me at something terrible's happening. We're all gonna die. I was like, I know, dude. I've been thinking this every day, my whole life, dude. Welcome.

Welcome to reality. It was, and though, a nightmare scenario, because like you're, I think to keep shit running the way we've got it running, you really need to, in the West, you get that idea of people's heads. So, you don't want people to think about death. You think about death, your priorities are gonna change.

You need the priority to be on like, you know, getting cool shit, getting a six pack, you know, whatever, improving the way you look or improving your surroundings in some way. But the moment the whole planet has to like suddenly realize that we could die at any time. I was wiping my groceries down, spray painting, spraying my groceries with fucking weird,

probably very not good for you. So these chemicals and just yeah, you didn't, in the beginning when we had no idea. Mm-hmm. What it was. Yeah, nothing. Could be anything. I just had a kid.

I had my first kid as soon as it started. And it was just like, I just told my wife, like, bro, this is just frontier rules. Like, we'll just see what happens. Same, same, I had a pandemic, fresh pandemic, baby. Yeah. Oh my God, that was wild, man. It was cool because I gambled like, whatever.

Like, it is what it is. And then like, it all panned out and I was like, hell yeah. Yeah. I knew it. Yeah. I was right about, I was like, I knew it. Dude, yeah, there was an underlying sense that this is probably gonna be okay. I felt that too, but they probably felt

that during this banished flu in the beginning. You know, they probably felt that during bubonic plague. You know, just, wait, I would have a few people here and there. Yeah, it'll just be a month. Yeah, it'll be a month. I'll remember that. Yeah, I will be back to normal soon. Oh, yeah, it's so wild that we went through that and it was just a few years ago.

It's also amazing that we've almost gone back to normal. You know, it's, that was a fucked apart. We didn't even get like a break. There wasn't even like, hey guys, that was really fucked up. Everyone's chill out for like a week. It was just like, fade it right back into normal life. Oh, hell yeah, I was just like, wait, what the fuck was that all about? It's about, you gotta get the economy moving again.

It's like, this thing, it's gonna collapse if we don't get it back to normal. They had to get it back to normal. My friend, that was his scary prediction. He's like, I'll tell you what's gonna happen. Everything's just gonna go back to normal. And now it's gonna think about it much anymore. And that's what's the real scary shit.

It's like humans just, we bounce right back into the old pattern. True. But what did we, what do you want? Like what new, what's the new pattern? A new holiday. I said we should have had a new holiday. Yeah, exactly.

You know, like a COVID-19 kind of thing where it was like you got out. It was the day we were like, we're done with that. Everyone's, we've rid ourselves of the nasty virus. Yeah. Never has a day where it is, like go outside and like. I can day off. Yeah, do something, I don't know.

Would you commemorate that? Yeah, you think, I mean, we commemorate other shit that seems far less important. To teach your appreciation to them. Give me a fucking break, let's replace that with COVID day. That's what I'm saying, COVID day. And I'm trying, what would you do? I'm trying to think what would the holiday be?

The holiday. Close talk, everyone close talks. No, it's gonna be like attacking other people on Twitter. You know, you're right. Yeah, yeah, it's like, what do they call it? What's that, the philosophical, I hate it when people do this though, man, I hate it when people are familiar with the philosophical argumentative errors,

you know, logical fallacies. A logical fallacy. A logical, yeah. A logical letting my shoulder man and blah, blah, blah. That shit. It's like suddenly you're in the game of chess with someone you wanted to have a conversation with and how they do it, but it's appeal to authority. Yeah, yeah.

So that was a huge, that was like the culture of the pandemic was appeal to authority. You don't know shit. Who are you? You're just a dumb fuck. I know you. You're an idiot. You don't know shit. Who are you? You're just a dumb fuck. I know you. You're an idiot. You don't know anything about fucking science.

Why are you suddenly an expert on fucking science on either side of the fence? Yeah. Either you are an expert on how masks don't work, the vaccines are deadly, or suddenly you are an expert on the other side. And nobody, no one would do. I would try to retain that information.

I'd watch like a 20 minute video of a guy being like, and then if you look at the double blind placebo and I'm like, all right, I got that part. And then they'd be like, and then it's a point O3 variability rate. I'm like, I could probably, my brain will like figure that one out if I keep going. And I was just trying to tell people about it. I'm like, I don't know, man.

And you're smart. Like if you get the double three, fuck, if you can get out of the double blind study you're doing great. True. You went to college. Yeah, I did. I got my masters in social work. There you go.

You so you had to take statistics. You don't feel like you take statistics and are like, you don't have to know any of the math. Just know that like if you don't have a big enough sample size that probably the study is probably bullshit. I remember that. Oh, that makes sense. I remember that.

It's like N equals 53. That's not a lot of people and I was like, that makes sense. But you have to do any of the math. You had to learn the scientific math thing. I remember that. It's like n equals 53. That's not a lot of people. And I was like, that makes sense. But you have to do any of the math. You have to learn the scientific math. Yeah. Yeah. You understand why certain some research makes it into scientific journals. Why some doesn't? You understand how stringent and fucked up every every anything you want to to anything you're doing that could change the science or change the

no matter how infinitesimally my new goes through such a never-ending rigorous series of analyses that by the time it makes it in it's like holy fuck that's probably true but you know I don't think most I don't think most people understand that. And to add insult to fucking injury, suddenly people are like, don't do your own research. Advising against people even trying to illuminate themselves on what any of the shit means. Everyone's getting these like,

like, I don't know, really dumbed down summaries of intense scientific research that is confusing to the scientists themselves who are real scientists will say, I don't know. We have no idea. We have no idea. This could be something. We don't know. Scientists never like, this is it. Yeah, this is it. No, we did. It's always like this is it. Yeah, this is it.

No, we did. It's always like, well, right now this is where we're at, but it could change in any second. So the whole thing fucking sucked and you got medical fascists out there and you got fucking people who were like one black out of way from burning witches and they're fighting each other and fucking sucked.

It was awesome though. Yeah, it was really shitty and very sad for everybody, but it was like, it was cool though to watch everyone just kind of have to take a second and be like, holy fuck, I might die. My whole family might fucking die. And then everyone got real weird. Everyone got into weird, I got super weird.

I was like, in my basement constantly. Dude, I was trying to start like, I've always been really into psychology, but I got like, I started trying to start this whole thing where I was like, I was trying to start like, I've always been real into psychology, but I started trying to start this whole thing where I was like, I was like, I'm gonna reconsexualize psychology as it is. I'm gonna start like an AA thing, but now for people on drugs,

then it'll spread online. Cool. And I don't even know what the fuck I'm doing. I'm like, I'll train people in this modality, and I'll train them, and then I just was like, yeah, that's a pipe dream. And I was like, pandemic ended.

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Freud used to, I was reading this book there talking about his, his biographer was covering it. I think young covered it too, were Freud passed out on two occasions. The first time was young was telling him about the bog men of Northern Germany. So there was these guys who like from prehistoric times fell on this lake and the lake had a certain type

of acid in the water that melted their bones but leathered their skin. So they'd dig up these bogmen and youngs tell them, they're like at a big psychoanalysis luncheon. He's like, yeah, these guys are like preserved. And Freud, Freud, we all bogged down and be like, why are you talking about all these dead guys? He's like, I think you want me to die.

You have a death wish against me and he fucking would faint. And the other time they're talking about like an Egyptian pharaoh. And they're like, Freud was like, yeah, that guy is such a bitch. And young was like, no, he actually ruled. And Freud was like, oh, passed out and woke a bitch and young was like, no, he actually ruled and Freud was like,

Passed out and woke up like, did you hate me so much? Because they were all like analyzing each other's intentions, but there was a paranoid They were just I mean if I was young and I'd hang out with Freud all the fucking time and knew I could make him pass out It's pretty tight. I'm talking about mummies. Freud was a young was humble bragging and his that book He did memory streams of reflections. He was like, yeah, I made a young man humble bragging in his that book he did memory streams of reflections He was like yeah, I made young I made Freud pass I mean pass out you know fucking But you would if I if you could make Freud pass out you do it too. There is There's a kid in elementary school this poor

I don't know what his problem was but for some reason if Food was mixed in front of him. He would throw up and so Like you know, it's elementary school and kids caught on that this is a possibility. So if you're bored at lunch and you're sitting with him, you would just start mixing your food and you could always hear him go, no, don't do it.

Please don't, please don't. And they'd fucking start mixing the food and everyone's laughing and then he'd fucking barf. This is like a whole year of inducing, don't do it, please don't do it. So he was like crumpling your sandwich on me, but, ah! Exactly, and it was crazy.

It was crazy. You just mix and mix, and yeah, so like if this, that's what young was doing to Freud, it was just no different than that, just aggression, and like Freud was oppressive anyway. It's embarrassing to pass out when you're supposed to be this famous, someone healing others' minds.

You can't even hear a story about a fucking mummy without passing out and then you're gonna be like, you're trying to kill me. Yeah, he's like, you just wanted fucking kill me, too. You hate me. Yeah, why won't you say I'm right? Yeah, he would, he like would apparently, it's kind of a cool concept.

They talk about homosexual self reproduction. We're back then, if you were, is a funny idea, but they're saying like, there's a level to which, if you're like, the material world's not good enough for you. Having a family's not good enough for you. You want to take yourself and clone yourself into another male, it's called

homosexual self reproduction, where it's like, I'm going to fill you with all my knowledge. You have to propagate my knowledge. And the whole idea was that since young was like, nah, man, I don't really, that's not my cup of tea. That is sort of threatening his like the part of him that would live on and like conquer death basically. But that's why he was passing out with young, I'll be like, I'm kind of into mummies right now now and he'd be like, oh, I never got a lift on forever. Just pat, oh. Wow, I didn't know that. That is, I knew that they had tension between them.

Because he thought he was like, you're gonna carry this on. Cause he came up with this idea and as you got older, it started kind of coming. Cause he was like, it's all about fucking coming for the most amount of time. Yeah.

So there's more to it. But like, he was like sex is the most important. And other people were like, nah, there's other stuff that's important. And he would spaz and be like, dude, if you fucking say that I'm gonna kill you, like don't do, you're fucking my shit up. Fucking choke you, till you're fucking.

Like he was, dude, he was the ultimate Mr. like he was trying to be, he was like, I'm right. I have fully pinned down the human mind. I mean, you know, maybe he wasn't that, you know, whatever. But he was like, this is the deal. Yeah. Don't deviate. And all of this followers were like, I think it, whatever, but he was like, this is the deal. Don't deviate. And all of this followers were like,

I think it's about this and he'd be like, you fucking asshole. You, yeah, that is the sort of, there's a cult leader quality to him that is undeniable. And with young too, I mean, people thought young was like the next second coming of Christ. He was, they thought he was so advanced. But he was, I can't understand any of his shit.

I read it. I'm like, I don't fucking know what you're talking about. Oh God, it is so mind-warping that stuff. Yeah. And he, like his red book, I tried that. Yeah, really hard to understand that. And he, didn't he live in a tower? He like ended up like living in a tower at one point.

Like, he didn't, yeah. He built a stone house for himself. And it was like with all his weird symbols and all this shit and he just kind of like chilled their quile. I don't think he even had electricity. I think he just like chilled out in the stone house and just was like on the fucking man dude. Yeah.

For fucking sucks dude. Fuck the void, I fixed everything. It was tight though, he was a dream master though. He was like, I know about dreams, fuck for a dude. He, I remember reading about him. You know, when he was doing, when he was like in school, if you're studying psychology, you would have to work in a mental asylum

and how some schizophrenic was like rambling about how the son had a cock. Which, you know the story that I've heard about. I think he might have talked about it in his autobiography. Yeah, cool. And then he remembered some obscure book of, I think it was African mythology. And the schizophrenic was completely articulating

this really weird sub branch of some form of like sun worship in Africa, but with great detail. And that was when he started tuning into this idea of a collective mind, that we all share a mind that's inhabited with the symbols that show up and stories, but the stories might be different culturally, but the symbol said is mostly the same. Really brilliant. That's fucking sick, dude.

Freud hated that shit, though, because he wanted to be all square, and that stuff was so non-scientific, to him, I think. Yeah, yeah. He wanted to be like, you just want to bone your mom, dude. He's like, let's never forget what's really important is boning our moms. Yeah, you want to fucking fuck your mom. You want to fuck your sister. You want to suck your sister's fucking dick.

You're just even half one. And it's driving you crazy. You're sitting laid on a couch, you're fucking right. You're right, okay. I was just up on the couch, I was just doing it. I want to, you did it. You broke through. Yeah, especially because back then, sex was like,

you really didn't talk about it at all. No. Like dudes will get boners back then and be like, like, their whole job was on the line. Yeah,. Like dudes will get boners back then and be like, like their whole job is on the line. Yeah, right. They got a boner in like 1912, you'd be like, fuck dude, I want to get fired.

Fuck dude, I'm hard as a fucking nail right now. Oh, and you had to just hold it down totally cool. Oh, and there's something so sexy about not being allowed to have a boner. It's like, you know, like, you know, there's something super hot about that. Exactly, it's a self-repetuating loop. Now you're just like, you're gonna be,

especially if you're gonna be like BDSM and you know you're gonna be a bad boy, bad boy with a boner. Oh fuck, I'm gonna get fired, then my wife's gonna be so mad at me and I'm gonna have to say, well, I got fired. I got fired for uncontrolled boners. You write your sister a letter,

but like I was so fucking hard at work today. Just thinking about your death. I think you could believe that you would have a few of my brothers. I think you would have a few of my brothers. Oh, God. You have the Lamproy's Caljame, but this is all normal, dude.

Oh, yeah. This is what drives you. This now you're getting to the nuts and bolts of who you truly are. Now you can grind. Can I play the song that I played? Speaking of sucking. I meant to start with that, yeah.

So this does connect everybody. I just wanna play, this is like, what's the app called? Sorry, what's the app called? So it's called sueno.ai. Wish I created it. I stay, I like keeping up today on what's going on with AI and like the lazy sway possible

which is I go to Reddit, Artificial, every few weeks and there's updates on where it's at and it's breathtaking because inevitably, like as a comedian, podcaster, well I like to make songs for my intros. And that takes me a long time. And so, and also, I don't have a great singing voice. So, the advent of AI to me, it was very exciting

because it's like, oh shit, I bet at some point, there's a sing, songs, and make music. But then, you know, months ago, to pull that off, you needed basically a PC, you could do it on Mac, but you have to go like, almost, you have to go like hacker. Oh, you need it like a, I guess I said. You have to learn coding, you have to learn a little bit

of JavaScript, you have to know how to like, use these arcane libraries that, and like you go into the turn on. Can you do that stuff? Can you do that stuff? Can you do co-star? No, I'm not good. I can, but I can follow directions.

Gotcha, gotcha. So you open the terminal on your Mac and you access these weird databases and you download all these weird files. But so the singing AI thing, where we have the image generators and stuff, you describe what you want. It does an image, that's cool. This is the same thing, but it does it for songs. And I've been following the...

Can't stop thinking about my sister's bone or dead. I'm sorry. It's your sister's bone. I'm sorry. Sorry, dude. In my mind, it's so beautiful. No, because it sort of like to me, your sister's bone are transcends the penis.

You know what I mean? Way, way beyond, yeah. It's the encapsulation of all penises. Is it perfect? No, but it's imperfection. It would imagine being a dog on the table. You think they're going for food or not. They want to suck your sister's dick.

That dog, you got dogs. Anywhere she goes, they're like. They want to suck your sister's dick. That dog, you got dogs. Anywhere she goes, they're like, you have sausage in your pocket and now. It's so jealous of my dogs on the table. I'm like, get the fuck out from one of the tables. Stop, just stop. You're just doing what all of us just want to do. You're free.

Look at you liberated. Outside of the fucking awful manacles of morality and ethics and our repressed thing when everyone just be under the table sucking my sisters dick right now. So you wrote a song. I didn't write it. Oh, you prompted a song. You basically. So one of the fun things when you get to play around with any kind of generative AI is that because the people who are making this available to everybody, they don't want to deal with bullshit. So they nerf the AI because of course the first thing you're going to do if you realize

this thing will make songs for you as you're going to say, write a song about how great it feels to suck my sister's dick. And we're falling into your own butthole. Yeah. And we're falling into your own butthole. Yeah. Exactly. If you try that, it will not do it. So funny they got to deal with the smartest people in the world. I have to be like, wait, what?

Like, she's fucking a choice. Let me put a safe card in. Exactly. So then you get into this hilarious, fun kind of like trying to hack the AI. Yeah, yeah. Because now you have to start thinking, okay, well, generally the way they use things work in the image generators too, you can't say underwear, it's not going to do underwear, it's not going to do cleavage, you can't say suck, slurp, any mouth and lips it might not even do.

But so you have to find a way around that to achieve The same effect for sure and so this is just some songs and the other astounding thing about it I mentioned earlier is this it generates this in like under three minutes and Soono dot. Yeah, I love you guys. Please don't ban me that I did this. It's just I won't keep doing it because like yes You will don't make promises you can okay, right? but I you know I got I, so I got banned from Discord at one point. And exactly, and the reason is because I've been getting mid-journey, like, we were, you know, just curious,

like, what can we make it do? And then, so of course, we realized, oh, sausage. Perfect. This is the way in. So, you know, any celebrity you want, eating a beautiful sausage, and it generates like hilarious pictures. And then, you know,

it's like so, you're late, it's late at night, you don't mean to call, I'm not trying to like fuck with anybody. It's just purely for me and my friends anyway. But yeah, out of the blue, I'm banned from Discord, and then it's for sure, it's gotta be because- You were using the app through Discord, you're saying?

Yeah, mid-journey's available through Discord. Okay, I got you, I didn't. So I don't even know what of the many horrific images we figured out, like a vat of... You can't say like a baby on fire, but for some reason it would let you say baby meat. So you could say like Bill Cosby eating a bowl of baby meat. And that would work for... Oh, like a horrifying image is... say baby meat, so you could say like Bill Cosby eating a bowl of baby meat.

And that would work for a fine images. So you just curious to see what. For sure. That's a long setup for something really stupid. No, this is a masterpiece. So this is, this is just using the same sausage hack that I used for mid-journey. Salsa chair. Or hot dog hack.

But with synodia. that I use for mid-journey. It's all such a hot dog hack. But when seen it at AM. ["Sitting in the Bang"] God Couldn't help but remember those days gone by When we keep laughing under clear blue skies Now she's all grown up. She's found her cramps to love But I I'm sorry. Wait for it. I'm sorry. Wait for it. Wait for it.

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It is innocent. My sister's snuck a bite of my hot dog. You can almost see that in a key thirbin song. Snuck a bite of a hot dog. It raises eyes for her. Fucked up, but it's still all right. I guess that's something. So it was your first iteration.

That's the first and then. ["The First Song"] At the picnic on a sunny summer day. My sister caught my eye in a playful way. Yeah, it's a little more racy. Yeah. Oh, that was a little... We love love. I've watched it all. It's history, it's that hot dog with a little charm.

A brother dear to Cyclecy. I love it there. Team you and a hot dog all night, love the spring. Like, that's awesome. And well, last one, I'm sorry to do this. No, no, please, I mean. Forgive me. The summer days, I think, is the best of them all. I've made 15 of these, by the way.

This is... Ha ha ha ha ha. You just fuck with, you're like, towing with the different prompts. Yeah, you're, I'm, you know, and also genres like. True. Death metal, you know, like, like, low five, you're just trying to like, see all the different,

the ways it did. What was that last one? That would have been like summer, kind of, like summer anthem, that's what. I think that was like a summer, like, I think that was a summer. I don't remember what the prompt was exactly for that one. And it titles them.

This one's summer days. And it was a lazy summer day. Y'all man, our little town. We was sipping on lemonade. Just letting time slow down. I saw my sister coming with a hot dog in her head. She took a big bite then

something I couldn't understand She was lupin' on that high top just like a straw And I couldn't help but smile cause I've seen it all before No matter how old we get on, how far away we roam And my heart shall always be my beautiful sister Sister my beautiful sister Beth Folley Todd dogs You're gonna start having dreams about these songs, dude. You're gonna start creating them now. You dreams well

Yeah, you that oh my god. You really yes last night as I'm falling asleep, I'm hearing that kind of shitty, tinny, like AI music, but man, like it's, to me, like, you know, part of being human, we just accept, okay, this is here now. But what the fuck? Like, so that, like, it knows how to structure a song. It wrote the lyrics.

It's not that bad, either. It's not that, like, it's not, like, I'd be proud of it. If I fucking whip that together, I'd be like, you know, check this out. Me too. And you can do it in just under two minutes. That's fucking crazy.

It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy and that this is leading to the ability. I mean, just think. Like if it's out, think of the fucking sisters sucking on hot dogs. Mosk is going to free it, by the way. Mosk is going to create the open source platform we can finally fully express our, yeah. You think so? He's going to free our sisters, penises, it's like it's yes he's gonna be like all right guys

enough of this woke bullshit that'll be covid day that will be covid day everyone finally just admits to each other we all want our sister to have a suckable penis dude the statue we can put up. We can knock down Confederate generals and just have like our sisters with giant fucking blocks. Like their dress is up in the world, lapping at their penises, world peace, Putin like just stops the fucking war.

So Linsky, they're just pictures of them like collating the statue together as a sign of universal peace. This is where we're headed. This is the promise of AI. I think so. I hope so. I'll be awesome. And also too, like, I don't know, what do people worried about? It's going to be slave us or something? No, I don't think the worry is like, yeah, I think what's it going to do with us? It's not going to be like, yo, make us songs. It's like, what would he even enslave us for?

Well, it's the scariest, there's a great book. It's called, I don't know, 10 Reasons to Lead Your Social Media. Jared Leneer, yeah, dude. I got guys stuff is awesome. Awesome. Where he's pointing out the dangerous is that, you know, BF Skinner figured out how to like, you know, program animals. He's the one who could make pigeons dance or whatever.

And like, you know, the, the Scenarian students are always at odds with like the Jungians or the more mystical. Because they're just like, now you, now stop. It's a fucking binary. Just stop now. It's not people don't want to fucking suck their sisters dick They don't want to say they're just they just want they they're just essentially Subject to being hacked and they think they're so brilliant, but they're not go to any casino and look It's BF Skinner is that you can thank BF Skinner for.

Yeah. Casinos, you can thank BF Skinner for TikTok, the algorithms, all of them based in his horrific unethical, scary fucking research. We always hated the Skinneries. I went to liberal arts school and if you were like an edge lord, you're going to be in a behaviorist. Yeah. You become a behaviorist, that's the name.

He was, didn't know he tried to write a book to be like, I'm actually not a bad guy, it was called Walden II. Yeah. And he wrote this book where he's like, I'm cool, here's all the stuff we could do for it. It was all about like bending large populations to your will. He was like, to be nice.

And he's like, we could totally control populations in a nice way and all this friends were like, dude, what the fuck did you just do that for? That's how far. He put out like a creepy book. Creepy book didn't he? He was a nice guy, apparently he was a really, dude, what the fuck did you just do that for? That's how far. He put out like a creepy book. Creepy book didn't he? You have nice guy apparently.

Apparently he was a really nice guy. They all are. They're upfront, they're nice, but then like he's like, you know, look at that weird pot he came up with for babies. Do you ever see that thing? No. He came up with like the perfect crib or something and it's just like a sterile,

a flexi-class enclosure for your baby that like- It would train them? Train them, a baby trainer based. That's what he's all about. But in that's linear, that was his, what he's like, because we're so hackable. And because currently the algorithm is already hacking us by giving us, what's it called?

Fuck, the most addictive thing is intermittent. It's not getting what you... You don't put a variable, yeah, it's not fixed, it's variable, it fucks people up. Fucks people up. So if the rat presses the crack button and gets crack every time, less addicted, then if sometimes no crack. And then this is the birth of, I think, from the behaviors, this is the birth of mythology of a religion. Superstition is like, because we live in a unpredictable chaos universe in any positive feedback that we're getting from the universe is inevitably interrupted by negative feedback.

The negative feedback happens and you invent a story. Oh, shit, anytime, like I see a penny, or anytime my clock says, 333, something positive happens. But if I, oh, if I look at the clock and it's 204, always bad luck. And so you invent bullshit to just deal with chaos and that that's the way it works. So you can program people using that superstition,

using the need for balance. And so when you're said that the AI will become so good at that, that we won't be able to escape it anymore. Like now you can still kind of put your phone down, you want it, you feel the pull, but he's saying eventually, no, no. You will not even be able to turn it off because it will have so hacked the human fucking

neurological system to the point where we, I I guess are whatever it wants us to be it's a late the late laser pointer to the cat and we'll start playing with us I'll be fucked up already is okay that was the book um infinite just was basically big portion of that was about how as technology gets better tech entertainment becomes so addictive that it's just gonna start sucking the soul out of people. And he called that in like 98. Yeah, man. And he killed himself. But yeah, he called that 90.

And he was watching like, Rambo reruns on USA. And he's like, damn, this is pretty good. Fuck it, and Chris. It's like, it's only gonna get better. And he's like, we're fucked. And then, you know, Rambo 7 will destroy humanity.

He called it though. He was like, he's like, we're entertainment something. You just like, oh, this is great. Give me it. He's like, as technology increases, the entertainment is kind of fucking gut people internally. Well, this is, so this is the sort of telescoping inward simulation hypothesis, which is like, because we, as humans, do want to simulate reality. And so our brains

do that. So that's the fantasy. We imagine this are that day dreaming. You picture something as some attempt to evade suffering. And then TV video games show up. Now I don't even have to imagine it. Books before that. I can read and simulate a reality. Then video games. Now I'm in a simulated reality projecting my identity onto a character in that. Then VR. Now I'm literally surrounded by that reality. And then because this is a trajectory, then the idea is that, oh well, for already on that trajectory, and people do have this thirst to escape default reality. You know, then it's already happened. So what we're in is actually the next phase that hasn't happened in this reality yet,

but it did already happen, which is obviously it's like that story, the lecture everyone puts shitty music to on YouTube of Alan Watts, talking about if you are an omnipotent omniscient, all-powerful being, create a bunch of shit, you make planets, you make various beings, you watch them evolve, you destroy them, you teach them, you hate them, you punish them,

you eventually you get bored, and you're like, you destroy them, you teach them, you hate them, you punish them, you eventually you get bored. And you're like, okay, what happens if I become one of them and don't remember I'm God. And that's what we all are. So that's Alan Watts' superior children's edition of this, but the darker rendition is technology inevitably gets to a point where you can choose to exist in secondary realities that are non-different, you can't tell the difference between them in this reality.

And as a natural human desire to evade, suffering, you go into one, initially you would go into one remembering that you can go out whenever you want. But then you lose track, you lose a thread, oh Jesus yeah. Or you're just like, you know, I want to try the hard core version of this and not remember at all that I'm in the game because that you realize that's that's detracting from the excitement of the game. Like Grand Theft Auto is fun.

And but you know, it's not going to be as fun as if you're a botan in one second to go to Grand Theft Auto world. I'd be like, yep, exactly. I don't want to remember that I'm. I don't remember who I was. I don't remember who I was. I don't remember that I was a human. I don't remember anything other than this is my character and whatever the memories of that character are

and planted in my character and then boom. Now you're living this alternate life that in because time is, construct anyway, you could be inside that reality theoretically, and it seems like years and years and years and years, when you've only been playing the game for a few seconds. And so that's what we're in right now. That, it's a, we've chosen it. Yeah.

They'll figure out a way to do that, to hit your brain and like, distort your sense of time, or it happens, you know, if you're like, yeah. Well, it was a whole conversation about a new version of prison, which is if we can distort the human mind to experience time at a slower rate, why not give someone a hundred-year prison sentence and they experience it in two seconds and they come out of it and they still have their whole life,

but they have experienced the temporal punishment of prison. And it's crazy. Crazy. You'd have like prisoner of Az-Bakistan or whatever, fucking for Mary Potter. You could be in there for like a thousand, you can get a thousand year mental sentence. Exactly. A thousand year middle sentence, way cheaper because housing prisoners is expensive. All you need to do is put them in like a lobby and just like two seconds later they are screaming

and that's the other sort of hypothesis about human realities. It's a prison. We are those prisoners. The whole original sin thing is we were gods or godlike beings that fucked up to punish us. They dropped us into the human incarnation as a form of rehabilitation like, okay, no, now guess what? You can't put your dick in black holes.

We've told you a million times, you do that, it creates ripples, it disrupts planets. You're going human, you're going human for 50 incarnations this time. And that's what we're in. That's the situation. That's the darker version. The more positive version is that young godlings, they need to go to school.

And so, you know, otherwise they become like horrible because they don't understand limitation. They take it all for granted. So remove from them their omniscient, all-powerful qualities, force them into a limited situation where they have to contend with projections that are just fragments of their mind spread out around them. And the moment that they find a way

to no longer talk shit about Kathy and all foods, he's a bitch, and stop judging and realize, I'm, it's all me, then that's when you pop out of your initial, like toddler phase of Godness, and remember, oh, right, oh yeah. Yeah, right, yeah. But you're not an asshole, God, you're like, you're gonna be more compassionate.

Cool, God, yeah. Fuck, I hope it's that. Well, I mean it's that. Well, I mean, yeah, who knows? I love that shit though, dude, of like, because people get, people are so certain with all this stuff with like, the, and I don't, I don't wanna make sure you're not.

I'm fine, thanks for thinking about, I'm good. Yeah, I'm, okay, good. The, a lot of people love that. I've been like, I always battle materialists. You were always kind of like, yeah, dude, you're just a physical, you're just a collection of physical processes, you're a consciousness is just like a thing emanating off of that.

It's inherently worthless. And it's like, so if that's the case, I was talking to an owner of a comedy club this weekend about it. He was like, this just makes me feel weird. I don't want to talk about this. But like, if I'm a purely physical being with, you know, my brains, things are spinning blah, blah, blah. That emanates consciousness.

Why would then not the universe of physical process emanate a super consciousness at scale? Right. Like, well, why is that that weird to think about? Tell me a little bit more. Why is that that weird? If we produce consciousness, according to if I was like a materialist, physical guy, like we're just a bag of meat and water

and that's all we are, consciousness is like, why would in like gigantic galaxy systems produce consciousness as well? Yes. So this is, in Buddhism, this is the different between relative reality, relative truth, or sort of the truth of what's happening right now, which is you are a physical manifestation,

there is stuff here, this is relative reality. So that gets extreme, it becomes nihilism. So nihilism, that's where all, we're just, it's almost like, I read this, like consciousness is basically like car exhaust, but for any dance, it's like, yeah, we're self-aware, it's almost a byproduct of millions and billions of computations happening

at every second in your brain. Why are these guys trying to neg consciousness? That's what I understand. It's like, they're like, these big prominent scientists trying to neg consciousness. Like, it's just just fucking shit. It's like, for us, they're cool-duting it. It's like, okay, dude.

Well, it's unquantifiable. Like, so that's annoying. It's thwart to you at every step of the way because like, like, in the all-knowledge itself, kind of, it like has to deal with the fact that at the back end of all that that needs awareness, it's dependent, knowledge is dependent on awareness. And so by saying awareness itself is an accident, you accidentally nullify that whatever it is that you've come up with, in the sense that anything produced from mental calculations

is flawed inherently in that its origin point is a malfunction of byproduct, an unquantifiable thing. And I think there's probably something really exciting about that for people. I mean, that's fucking cool. It's like, you know, it gives you a chance to rise above and this really great, you look, all these fucking robots thinking they're in PC.

That new snobby fucking way. It's a new PC. It's not even real. Man, characters in NPCs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some of scientific version of that. But then on the other side of it, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some scientific version of that. But then on the other side of it, you get the comedy club owners argument,

which is called absolute reality, or eternalism when it gets in balance. So eternalism, this is where to fix the problem, you say there is some fundamental, eternal thing, a soul, a selfness, a world fundamental, eternal thing, a soul, a selfness, a world soul, universal, this inevitably turns into a God. The God is this like, you know, non-changing,

I guess, perfect, being that knows what it's doing. Now you can bank on that, that's our relief. On one side, you can sort of any shitty thing you've done in the world, you can be like, who gives a fuck? I'm just a goddamn robot that's like confused. Care is everyone else is a robot. Did I hurt somebody?

I heard a robot. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Fucking, did I cheat on my robot wife? Whatever, dude. What's cyborgs? Exactly. Exactly, oh, the other side. God damn dude.

The other side. She just tell their wives they cheated on them. Yeah, yeah, why you do that? Oh damn dude. The other side. She just tell their wives they cheated on them. Yeah, yeah. Rather try to neg everyone's consciousness. When you're gonna fucking tell your wife that, you're gonna confuse her programming to stop with your petty attempts to establish some morality or ethics or anything. You're just a robot. So yeah, both sides of them are flawed

in that on one of them, you've attempted to deal with the problem of being temporary by annihilating everything and for a lot of people, the motivation behind that is they think it'll in suffering the other side. You're leaning into, well, yeah, I'm an idiot, but something's in charge, and I'm gonna lean into that thing because that will save me, that thing will save me.

Both of them are flawed, I think, but somewhere in between is where it's happening, which is like they're both happening at the same time. There's, you know, and there's relative reality. This is real. Don't be a fucking asshole and suddenly like, don't make a great deal. You go to your Iowa military and cut up your fucking credit cards

because you saw it into the wild and blah, blah, blah. Now you're here, there's no way out. But then also like don't, don't, don't, don't, you have to find the place in between these two and then that's where you start. At least from what I like reading about. That makes sense. Yeah. Don't go too wild on the other stuff.

Basically like Doomsday death cult is like, bro. Wait till we die. It's going to be so sweet. Old versus dudes being like, bro, none of this is all bullshit in your head. And you know what? As they say, opposite stand back to back. So both have this concept of heaven baked in. The nihilists concept of heaven is what, oh God, you drink the hemlock? Oh, socrates.

Socrates, his apologies, hilarious. Dude, that was the best. When he goes on, he's like, yeah, I'm right. You guys are so, you guys are fucking bitches, dude. If. And they told him like, you don't have to drink it. He was like, I'm drinking it. I'm drinking the hemlock. He's like, no, you guys told me to drink the hemlock. I'm drinking the hemlock. Oh, like, you don't have to drink it. He was like, I'm drinking it. Drinking the hemlock.

He's like, no, you guys told me to drink the hemlock. I'm drinking the hemlock. Oh, no, but don't get out of this. I'm gonna drink it and then I'm gonna leave you with the most brutal roast. Yeah. Well, you will not just have to deal with, but historically, well, you will be roasted eternally

after killing me. Yeah. But within that apology is, if I drink this hemlock, and I go into the deepest sleep where I have no awareness, then you have given me the greatest gift anyone could have given me. Like an end of suffering. Thank you. So this is the Nileist heaven. Is you die and you're off the fucking hook. It's over, baby. It doesn't matter.

You are fucking Jeffrey Dahmer, or if you are the Dolly fucking llama, it's the same destination, just complete extinguishment of all suffering. Oh, heaven. On the other side, you're maintaining some sentience, but then you're in,

like depending on your depiction of heaven, a place of like varying degrees of sense gratification. Yeah, true. And you're no longer in comfort by your own mortality. And a big up and every turn of them, like, oh, dude, you're a fucking man. Yeah, thanks, dude. And so these two fight, you know,

cause one is like, yeah, streets of gold. Really, you wanna fuck it, walk down streets of gold. That was, how soon before that gets boring, you wanna fuck it, walk down streets of gold. That was, I'll assume before that gets boring. You really believe that shit. In the other side, they're like, you met, you do, you're missing your chance for paradise. The devil has trapped you. Both of them are confabulating something that no one knows.

Yeah, exactly, it's a mystery. That is intolerable. Yeah, true. That's a mystery. That is intolerable. Yeah, true. That's where it's at, because like that feeling of not knowing is just sand in the diaper of the human mind. Yeah. It's fucked up, really.

Especially as you get older. It's like when someone touches your belly button. Yeah. You have to fucking sit there. You don't know. I know it. That's the reality. That's like when someone touches your belly button. Yeah. You have to fucking sit there. You don't know. I know it. That's the reality. That's the real reality.

He's like, you just don't know. Yeah. And you have to deal with that. You just have to sit and not knowing. It sucks. It sucks, but it's like the cold dip. You go in it for the first few seconds. It sucks a little bit longer.

It's not so bad. True. Yeah, yeah. No, it is good. It's scarier to be like, I have this totally figured out. Here's the deal. And then you basically just attack anybody. You disagree. You can't.

If you disagree with me, you're spinning me out on a level that's fucked up. And that is fine. Yeah, true. I'm not a war. Now you get to be a war to distract yourself. I do like that though, because it's like, I like talking about this stuff,

because it is fun too, because people are just sitting at work, and all of a sudden they're just like, they get taken to the point of death beyond, and you just be like, oh my goodness, I'm gonna go to the bathroom, it's a fucked up. Because it is funny to be at your job

and have to like confront your death and be like, the idea of non-existence with fuck's people up. Oh yeah. And it's like, oh, well, it fucks me up too, and it's fucking crazy. It, well, I mean, because you're sort of,

I mean, the relative reality is really quite beautiful. I mean, we have all the, we have like new friendships, old friendships, we have our kids and our wives and these beautiful lives and it's so beautiful, it's so beautiful and there's a kind of unbearable quality to that and because it's unbearable and it's transient nature, when presented the reality that it won't last, you don't, you don't, you don't, you get confused and your love of life suddenly turns into a fear of death.

When really, all you're experiencing is how much you love this place. You love it so much that you hear about this stuff when you're at work and you have to go like, take a shit, jerk off, think about your fucking sisters. Hard to reset, that's a hard reset. It's a rough and dick. Cause don't forget, they will in 10 minutes,

they'll be in traffic, just being like, fuck this traffic sucks. Exactly. Well, that's the book that the denial of death, it's I think Ernest Beckham, it's so fucking sick. And his idea was that like this thought of dying, you're like, you're like a biologically attuned to it. Like if you're a baby in the crib,

you leave a baby in the crib, it's as an organism being like, I'm dying. Yeah, I'm about to be left behind and your body's just equipped with the knowledge of your baby and you're by yourself. Instinctively, you're like, I'm dying. You have freak the fuck out, but you never get over that fear of death

and his whole argument is that society is at best can offer you a hero system where you can kind of enter in, fulfill like a heroic role, and then through the heroic role, you somehow in your head, you trick yourself into being like, I am transcending death because I'll live on forever, X, Y, and Z. Then human beings are programmed biologically,

it never want to be second best either. So then you get into all this like weird, like symbol symbolic comparison, where you're like, well, that guy has a Audi, I have a fucking whatever fiat. And you start being like, people get into these weird things. You're supposed to somehow rise above it so hard that you're like, I live on forever as a hero. But once there's not enough heroic roles,

then society starts to break down because everyone's getting like pummeled with the fear of death, fear of non-existence, feeling of smallness, and it just spins everyone out. And nobody can, everyone's hit with this. Nobody can get out of it. Well, there's a saying you'll hear in the spiritual communities, which is,

we carry death on our shoulder. So, or one version of it is love everyone, serve everyone, remember God, but it also gets translate as love everyone, serve everyone, remember God, but it also gets translate as love everyone, serve everyone, remember you're gonna die. So that never for a second do you let that imminent reality escape your consciousness because if you do then you miss out on really experiencing existence as it is. This is why you always hear people who have survived cancer,

or people who are not gonna survive cancer. They're like, I've never been happier. I'm so tuned in. I'm so like in the world now and so like happy because they're living in reality. They're not walking around in some, like a mat with an imaginary force field. And that book they call it your character armor.

From a child, you deal with the problem of helplessness by creating this character that you then throw, it's thrown into a hero system to transcend your own death. The whole point of the guy's like, dude, don't do that. Except you're gonna die and think about it all the time. And remember, the thing is, it's like the contemplation of death, it doesn't mean suddenly you're gonna be wearing

black lipstick and that you're depressed. It actually is paradoxical and it really helps you appreciate life in such a grand way. It's the best. For stress, it's the best. I'll stress about stuff and I'm like, yeah, but I don't wanna die. And I'm like, whatever.

When our kids are having a tantrum, I'm like, you know you're gonna fucking die, right, Bubba? You know this isn't fucking permanent, right? You know, it's probably statistically gonna die first. Oh, die, diabetes, daddy here, Bubba. So, I'm, so, but this is the, you know, there was a, they don't, I don't, I think they do it. Maybe they still do it in some forms of Buddhism,

TeraVaden Buddhism, I think the forest monks, I'm sorry, the Buddhists out there, I'm so confused, but they would sit on the edge of pits where bodies have been thrown and watch the body's decomposed as a meditation. So you would sit and you would meditate watching the decomposition process to fully understand completely, inarguably, because you also have a body, that's you. Your face is going to puff. You're going to turn green.

Your eyes are going to get all fucking puffed out. Birds will eat your flesh. You will- Could you pinch your nose? Could you sit there a whole time? You're a pussy. That's true. That they would just watch people decompose. Yeah, yeah, they would do that.

That's tight. It's liberation, it's like don't, the moment that you like, I'm not saying you can evade fear of death, but I think the most, most people who are really terrified of death are the ones who haven't spent any time thinking about it. The moment you really spend time thinking about it and you realize, I'm afraid to die

because I love my life. And death, my version of death, you don't even know how could you know what that is. You have no idea what the fuck that is. You're thinking about, God what is his name? Marcus Arraileus, he's got a great essay on it. It's a moment. Death is like one moment. Your life is full of moments. You know, there's going to be this one moment and that's the moment right before you croak. That's it. Yeah. It's one moment you're

worrying over one moment. And that moment is diluting every moment that you have with a shadow that doesn't need to be there. Let that moment be its own thing. It'll take care of itself. True. You know, or I'm not so to say dying is completely safe. Yeah. Most natural fucking thing there is. It is, dude. Yeah. That's what I always saw. My mom would always bug me out She don't like when I was doing stand-up. She's like you gotta do something else You like what are you gonna do when you're 60 or 70? It's like I'll fucking dive thirst. I don't know I was fucking I become a ward in the state. I don't know like I was like I'm out

Well, I'm not worried about that. Yeah, I want to try to do my best and that you know eventually she killed But that's not gonna come a mom down. I know be a ward in the state They'll fucking feed me gruel and a shit house. That's what I'm gonna tell her. So what are you gonna do when you're 80 if you don't have any savings? I was like, I'll fucking dive thirst. I'll die destitute.

First of all. And retridely and she'd be like, well, I mean, hey, when you talk, like, why would you say that? Don't say that, you sweet, sweet mama. They're so worried all the time. Moms are worried. And now you're, you just gotta tell them like,

you know, you'll, tell them, this is what I would say to comfort my mom. Mom, I'll kill myself. Trill, Trill. I'll just blow my fucking brains out. Yeah, Trill, end it all right. I'll end it all, don't worry. If you're still alive,

you're not gonna have to pay for me or whatever. I've jumped in front of a train. I'm fucking jumping from a train. Yeah. Pull my brains out, jump off a building mama. You'll be fine. Ha ha ha. See how you come for your mama, you bastard.

Ward of the state. A bit of ward of the state as you do your so mad. What's, oh, you really should think about it. Think about it. Well, not me and like she'd be like, you, you, you'll see. Did that fuel your comedy a little bit? The fact that your that your parents resisted What you wanted to do they were cool for the most part like my dad was like bro do do your thing, man

I don't care, but my mom would just get like were especially I was hitting like my 30s and you know I was like I was just living like a weird fucked up life my mom would be like you know It's not too late you could do X-Wine you could become a teacher you do this and I'd be like All right, mom all thing and then And then she would just start hammering me and that's when I started getting her back, like bro, if I don't have any money on me, why the fuck would I worry? I mean, I obviously know there's a practical reason

to worry about that, but back then I'd be like, mom, why the fuck would I worry about that? Yeah. I'm not gonna worry about having like a little bit more money than I'm 80. No, it was going for me. It was going for me. It was going for me.

Yeah. It was going to be, there were a problem. I backed on that as well. I was like, bro, technology would be so good, mom. They're gonna double our life spans anyway. And now, do look at that song you just show. I play that song about, yo, I was right. Yeah. I'm fine. I'll be fine. Listen, AI's making fucking incess music, mom. I told you the world will get better. Dude, there was a book called Vert where the guy sci-fi book and the guy was, they would like suck these feathers,

and then that would take them to, it would take them into this artificial realm where they could have these different experiences, the whole book's about, and it's pretty, it's a cool book, but it's about the guy, the conflict is the dude loses his sister in this cyberspace. But then they just slowly through the book reveal that he was fucking his sister for no reason at all.

No reason, they could've just been like his girlfriend, it would've had the same exact effect. I don't know, dude, it's a great book, but the whole time, you'll be like great awesome, great sci-fi, and then I was fucking my sister, and you're like, bro. Did you have, did you just change it? Why the fuck? I have no idea, dude.

And like, it's like I haven't claimed the book, but he still gets, if you read the reviews, everyone's like, and there is a little bit of low brawl, stuff about him fucking his sister. And it's like, and there was a little bit of low brawl, stuff about him fucking assists, and it's like, it's pretty graphic. I prefer high brawl as this. It's such a sick book, but then they try to make it a movie,

but I just, they probably couldn't get a thrill of him, just like in a field of beautiful feel. He's like, no. It wouldn't change. I will not sell you the rights unless for sure. Sure, he's fucking assists sister in an English meadow. Is that where he fucked her? Yeah, I was in England.

So it was like an English cyberpunk book and it was just him just like the book so good, but he just couldn't stop describing. But like he teases it out. It's like, yeah, this guy really likes his sister and like as you get into it, it's like and then we were in the same bed as like, oh, you did have an abusive father. I can see you guys like seeking refuge.

And he's like, and then we kissed and I'm like, trying to give the benefit of the doubt. I was like, oh, you did have an abusive father. I can see you guys like seeking refuge. And he's like, and then we kissed and I'm like, trying to give the benefit of the doubt. I'm like, yeah, maybe it's different in England. And then like, he's talking about like inserting in a park. You're like, you went that far? Yes, dude. And it's just like brother come on, man. Dude. Yeah. That is crazy. You know, like that genre of porn, incest porn. And you're that genre of porn, incest porn. And you're, even though it might have a kind of hotness to it, you just think like, man, they need to show that, like, you can keep showing it,

but you need to show these people, assuming this is real, 15 years later. You wanna see a move in here? I wanna see them therapy. I wanna see them fucking like dealing like dealing with like all the ways that's giving to be so fucking weird. We're in my family and fuck everything up and destroy everything.

I can't think, think about, I know, I think my sister's tits. They taste it. Yeah, dude, it'd be so awkward. Thanksgiving tits or tits taste a different one. Thanksgiving on Thanksgiving. They taste like more briny, but on Christmas, they had this tang.

Oh, there's just a tension at the Thanksgiving table and finally you rub, you're like, you never even fucking touch me anymore. Shut up, you're talking to your wife. You're like, shut up, it doesn't involve you. Don't get my sister. Oh, God. Yeah, you can't do it.

It's just, it's just, there's, that's a good rule. I think about a lot of rules, I'm like, you can't do it. It's just, it's just, it's a good rule. I think about a lot of rules, like that's a good one. It's a really good rule. Fantastic rule. It's a fantastic rule. Don't do it. Don't fuck your sister. Sucker dick.

Exactly. Have fun, obviously, have fun. I gotta go to the doctor. Go to the doctor. Thank you so much. Dude, thanks for having me. What a fun conversation man. It's a blast. Thank you so much, Frill. You're the best. Thank you so much. Dude, thanks for having me. What a bum conversation man. It's a blast.

Thank you so much, Frill. You're the best. Thank you very much. You're real. Thank you, man. Everybody wants the kids. Your sister's how I do. It's what we have in common.

It's what I see as a frog. No more confusion, goodbye to the town. So come on everybody, wherever you may be Confess you won't, your sister's gone Just as much as me Open wide, shut your eyes And let the flag of freedom fly Let's all kneel together

And shoot your sister.