Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast - Ep 494 - RFK (feat. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.)

Episode Date: May 14, 2024

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Sorry about that Sean our producers a punk. Yeah, he's a young punk man. He's a young superstar. He thinks he's a hotshot He got intoxicated went on Instagram live this week Really? Yeah fool himself. I'll be trying to delete it and I shared it just to teach him a lesson. Yeah What did you do exactly? I just Not exactly don't say exactly I got really drunk and opened up Instagram live and Played Lakeshore Drive. Do you know that song Lakeshore Drive? Yeah, it's very good and I listened to that and it was I just wanted to share a moment with everybody and I regret

It very much. You should well you learned. Yeah, it's good Good. Thanks. It'll go away. Yeah, it's not forever. That's good. Well, thanks for coming here and doing this. I'm honored to be here. Please.

We're honored. We're free. I've been I've been really happy about this. So just pumping me up. And apparently so you are because they've been trying to say you're totally out of it. But now you guys have had what you guys are on all the ballots now and all the 52 states.

No, we're on the ballots in 14 states. We got on Texas today. We needed Texas, the hardest one, because you have 45 days to get 100,000 signatures. But we found here what we're finding elsewhere. It's incredibly easy for us to get signatures. So we got a quarter million signatures, which we try to get at least double what we need

because the DNC and the RNC are gonna come in and try to go through every signature and try to exclude them. Really, so they take that very seriously. Yeah. But not- They're gonna try, their strategy is to keep us off the ballot. Yeah, but not their their their strategies to keep us off the ballot. Yeah. Trying to save democracy by destroying it. Yeah.

Yeah, that's my thought. I totally for some reason, I must have gotten misinfo. I thought it was it was. No, we've done the hard stage. We don't we're going to get on the ballot. I think they're going to they're beginning to realize that now. We're yeah, we're on. We've done really effectively all the hard states were not on. The other really hard state is New York

where you need 45 or, you know, 45 days to get 45000. But you also there's these other provisos that you have to get them from certain counties and certain congressional districts, a certain amount. And we had a firm come in that we hired to do our ballot signatures. So we had 100,000 volunteers in the state.

And then we had a firm come in that was charging us. Oh, we suspect that the firm was actually secretly working for the DNC. And they did things to invalidate almost all the ballots they collected. And if we had not discovered it early, it would have sunk us. So we're now now we're about to file litigation against them. If only it was a mail in vote, I think they would take it less seriously.

You know, so you have to get per state, you have to get a certain amount of signatures to be on the ballot. Is that how every state? Geez. OK, this is what I always thought. And correct me if I'm wrong. I always thought it was a bad move by the DNC to try to get you off the ballot because I thought you might take more votes away from what otherwise would be a Trump voter. What do you think of that?

I take more votes away from Trump than I did from Biden at this point. So we fold our own people and we take about 57 percent of the people who are our supporters who we poll say that if I drop out of the race, are our supporters, who we poll, say that if I drop out of the race, they'll vote for President Trump, which is why President Trump now has opened up all the firepower against me. But we also did a poll, we did the biggest poll ever done,

at least in this presidential race. A typical poll like the Quinnipiac poll, the Harvard Harris poll, the Sienna poll, the Gallup poll has from 1200 to usually 2200 people that they interview. We surveyed 26,000 people. The poll has a margin of error of virtually zero. So anybody who does that poll would end up with the same results. And it was very interesting because what it shows is that if I stay in the race, Biden loses. If I get out of the race, Biden loses even worse. He loses two extra states, Maine and Virginia. We did every state.

And if Biden dropped out of the race, I would beat Trump. So Biden cannot beat Trump, but I will beat Trump. I don't beat him by much. I beat him by three electoral votes, but Biden loses catastrophically to him. And then if Trump dropped out, which of course will never happen, but then I beat Biden in a landslide. So I beat President Biden. I take 39 states and he only gets 11.

So I'm actually in a different position. Nobody's ever been in history, which is a third party candidate who in a head to head race will beat either the candidates from the major parties. Damn, and they won't debate you at this point? Neither of them will? Well, the debates are scheduled after the conventions. So there's a presidential debate commission and it has scheduled three debates.

The first one is in September 18th. And if I'm at a And if I meet certain metrics, which the big metric is 15% in recent polling, then I will be on the debate stage and I should meet that metric. So they should have to debate me. I mean, they should debate me anyway because my favorability ratings

Are better in every poll my favorability ratings are better than either President Biden or President Trump So if they want to do the right thing they would debate me So I don't think I don't do you think President Biden is gonna debate. I don't think I don't think I think they'll say that if they Debate Trump that's a threat to democracy and they won't dignify Trump with a debate. Yeah, they'll say that they're legitimizing them. Yeah. Yeah. Which is weird since he's already been president. He's a criminal, though. Yeah, he's going to jail.

So what do you how do you deal with like because you get crushed all the time in the media for this, like I followed it from a long time for like they were saying like you communicate with your dead ancestors, which every time every different thing I've seen, if you read it for just like, I followed it from a long time for like, they were saying, like, you communicate with your dead ancestors, which every time every different thing I've seen, you read it for two seconds is like, Oh, you saw my like a meditative exercise, that if anyone else said it, it'd be like, Oh, that's actually really nice. So like, how do you what are some of like the weirdest mischaracterization mischaracter

characterizations or whatever you've had? And like, how do you deal with that? Well, they've they've applied everything to me. I mean, the anti-Semitic racist talks to my dead ancestors, anti-vax, anti-science. I mean, we should make a list of them. This week it's that I have a brain worm which was actually true.

I got you. That is a tough one. Yeah, that was a tough one. Brain worms. Yeah, that was, I think 13 years ago. Oh really? Yeah, because it was in a deposition for my divorce. And I think it was 12 or 13 years ago, and they, and the New

York Times went up, went back and took up that deposition. Wait, did she brought it up in the divorcing? You know, I don't know, it was in a deposition. That's a good move by her, for sure. This guy's crazy. He's got a fucking brain. Yeah, but I forget the context in which it was brought up. But at that time, I was having a lot of brain fog.

And I was having trouble with word retrieval. And so a guy who is a buddy of mine, he was actually a guy I was in prison with for the summer of 2001. I was in maximum security prison and he was my cellmate. He was the head of the biggest labor union in the country, Dennis Rivera. This was when we were put in jail for protesting the bombing of Vieques and I had won. I had been the attorney for the people of Viecas at that time

And he and he began we we were good friends and he was because he was ahead of the hospitals Union he had a lot of contacts the hospital and I told him I and I was having this trouble and he said I'm gonna get you in for a cat scan He got me in for a cat scan. He got me in for a CAT scan. The CAT scan showed a black dot in my brain. And they said it was a tumor. They said it's got to be a tumor. My uncle had died only a couple of months

before from glioblastoma, which is a brain tumor. And Teddy, my uncle Teddy, had been on the chairman of the health committee in the United States Senate for 50 years. So we had really good contacts in the medical community. And we at that point, because they had all been involved at the best oncologists and neurologists in the country, had been involved in treating him. So they were all on the speed dial and, you know, family films. So I was able to take these films and send them around to the best doctors in the world

and they all said you had some brain tumor. And then I was going, I had to get surgery and I was gonna use the same surgeon that Teddy did, which is this guy in North Carolina at Duke. And I was going in to pick up my films on the Monday and I was scheduled for surgery on the Tuesday, which I was not looking forward to. And there was a young doctor, an Irish doctor,

who was sitting in the office where my films were at Columbia Presbyterian. And we started striking, we struck up a conversation. It was about Ireland and stuff, and he said to me, what are you here for? And I said, I got a brain tumor. And he said, can I look at your films? And I said, yeah, so we put him up on the light board.

And he stared at them for a long time. And meanwhile, we'd had literally the best surgeons in the world looking at these, and this is this young kid, and he looks at it and looks at it, and he said, and then he turns to me, and he said, I don't think you've earned surgery. And I was like, tell me more. And he said, there's something about this,

I don't think it's a tumor. He said, what you should do is measure it really precisely, and then six weeks later measure it again, it's a tumor, it'll grow. If it's not a tumor. It's something else So I went back every six weeks from the next six months and it never grew and then at the end He said it's probably this thing called neuro neuro Neurocystic or circosis

Which is like a form of a tapeworm That gets in your brain. He said, it's dead, you know, it's not in there or you'd see it. But apparently it's very common in India and I had traveled a lot in India, you know, because of my work. It's also common in the hog industry

and I had been suing hog farms for 10 years. So I don't know exactly where I got it, but anyway it's dead. What part of your brain was it in? It was on my left side in the front. Okay, so I think that part is not super important from what I know about brains. Front is important and like the bottom pretty important. Sides are just like memory and balance, you don't need that. The worm was, you couldn't remember words?

It was eating the words. Was this a bookworm? No, no. I don't actually think the worm was. I sat on that for five minutes. Paul's. So that was the theory, though. I don't think it was because at the same time, I I found out that I had huge

mercury levels, so I had 10 times the amount of mercury that EPA considered safe. When I key laid it out the mercury, my all my cognitive issues, my cognitive issues were resolved. And so I don't even think that the brain were I don't know what the brain worm did. You know, I mean, a doctor told me at one point, he said, you, you could lose 10 IQ points and you'll never know it. True.

He said, even people around you won't really notice it. So I don't know, you could, do you think you're as smart today as you were when you were a kid? I don't know, I can't tell. I think I'm smarter, but I might. You've gotten smarter. Yeah, I got audible.

Audible helped me a lot. I was pretty dumb now. might you've gotten smarter. Yeah, I got audible audible helped me a lot I was pretty pretty dumb now. I've gotten significantly. Yeah audible is good Audible is good. You think you've gotten smarter? No, I've gotten dumber Yeah, was that from the drinking and yeah Alcohol lack of sleep for a long time stress My kids seem a lot smarter than I was, and they think they're smarter than I was.

Yeah, they have the leg up though. They get the benefit of how smart you are, then you raise them with your level of smartness so they get more smartness. I learned, I went to school for psychology for a year. Yeah. Well, here's a question. This always kind of cracks me up,

but I always, one of the the because I'm like been fascinated with like how you're portrayed and all this stuff. And the thing that really kind of cracks me up is when people are like, oh, like you're just you're coming on these positions, you're grifting, you're trying to get supporters. Then the things are hitting you for like, again, vaccines, wildlife preservation. It's like if you were truly grifting, I feel like you would

just be like, we got to fund Ukraine. We got it. We need more vaccine. Like you would. You could rise to the top of the Democratic Party tomorrow, I guess, if you were like, I love Ukraine. We got to fund the war. We got to do this. We got to do that.

And then you get accused of like, I do my position on when I took my position on Ukraine, which was the beginning of the campaign. It was 86 percent of Americans supported the war in Ukraine, so it was not like a proper position. People recently started saying this about me because my position, my official position changed on the abortion issue. And so they said, well, he flip-flopped on that. But you know, I don't think anybody really seriously accused me of being a flip-flopper for the reason that you say that I've taken very, very unpopular positions and stuck with

them. And what I say is, there's no way that you can change my mind by calling me names or by criticizing me or by marginalizing or vilifying me, you can always change my mind with facts. If you tell me I'm wrong about it, show me that I'm wrong about something, about one or bright presumptions, and I'm going to change my mind. And that's what happened with the abortion thing. So you know, my position on abortion was that it should always be a woman's choice right

up to the very end. And my assumption was that any abortion that occurs during that ninth month, in ninth month, you're basically killing a child, right? My presumption was that any abort, no woman's going to deliberately carry a child for nine months and then two days before it's born, abort it. Who would do that? No woman's gonna deliberately carry a child for nine months and then two days before it's born, abort it. Who would do that?

So it could only be in instances where the mother's life was at stake, or there was some other, you know, overwhelming medical issue involved, and that it should really, it shouldn't be up to a bureaucrat of the state to dictate the outcome of those kind of decisions it should be out up to the mother or you know or relationships with her family her conversation with her pastor with her doctors etc it's a very difficult decision I don't want a bureaucrat making it but then I learned I was wrong

if there are actually a huge amount, you know, comparatively of elective abortions at that time. And my belief is that, you know, the state at that time, you've got a wholly formed, viable child, that the state has some interest in protecting that baby. Oh, as you guys know, you come from presumably Irish Catholic families. Yeah. My family is split about this, about right to life, right to choice.

I'm always, I've been a medical freedom advocate. I've been a leading advocate in the country for medical autonomy, freedom of choice. So I think the woman should always choose, but in this case, if it's a fully formed baby, that the state does have some interest in protecting that life. Yeah, but that's kind of, for me,

that's kind of your charm, where you'll wade into these very murky waters. Most times, it's just like a one word answer, like I'm for blah, blah, blah, and it's just like you're kind of actually going into it being like, well, I support medical autonomy. And they're like, what about a late term abortion? You're like, all right, son of a bitch. Yeah, fine. And they're just like, you both. So then they just run it. They run the story as like, you love to kill babies. That's like kind of the angle they're

going on. And it's like, if you look at it for five seconds, you see, you say, like, every abortion is a tragedy. But I still want every woman to make the decision out of they're going on it. And it's like, if you look at it for five seconds, you see, you say like every abortion is a tragedy, but I still want every woman to make the decision not a bureaucracy. And it's like, for me, it drives me nuts to watch that. It's like, damn, this is deciding the future and the policy. It's literally like, it's a form of lying to be like, this is what this guy thinks.

And you watch it and you're like, if you watched it just two minutes before that, it's not that at all. But it, and then to say like, well, I saw it. And you know, it's like, fuck man, I was wrong. You know, I don't like that. It's I don't think it's flip-flopping It's just being like let me have all the it's in It's almost an impossibility to expect one person to have a the right answer on every major issue in the country That's what the kind of the president's expected to do start to finish some people just lie

So then the president's just lie or they just like research get demographics and they say this is what I'm gonna say It's almost like if someone agrees with everything you think they're probably just lying You know, so I do applaud your ability to like wade into those waters and be like, here's what I think you get the data You go, okay. Yeah shit. All right I'll think about that, you know, definitely. I don't think it's flip-flopping It's like actually thinking issues through rather than having a team of people be like say this about that say this about that Get the vote and then, you know, business is huge. So I just wanted to commend you, that's all.

Give some positive vibes. Oh, it's interesting living in that space where, you know, where I'm getting incoming from both sides and just tremendous anger and from people and particularly from people that I knew that I was allied with for many years. And then how to deal with, to internalize that kind of criticism.

It's easy to deal with it from the outside because it's kind of formulaic about how do I counter this. But it's been interesting and actually it's been like an important experience for me to have, to be in a world where I'm very isolated and where, you know, nobody believes you. And to be able to find my own resources and say it's not important what people think of me,

it's not my business, what other people think of me, my job is to do what I believe is right and then leave the outcome in God's hands and to be and to try to be peaceful throughout that. It's pretty difficult, so how do you do that? I had an experience. And to be and to try to be peaceful throughout that. Pretty difficult. So how do you do that? I had an experience. I could use it myself.

I had this experience when I first got sober. I went to this, I went to a rehab for a while and my wife came to visit me on January 17th, which is my birthday. And after you get a visitor, they test your urine. And I got a urine test and it came back positive for alcohol, and not just a little alcohol, but like knee-walking drunk, you know.

Like Gardini Instagram Live. Yeah, exactly. What happened? And then, so they shut down. Come on. Yeah, exactly. What happened? And then, so they shut down. Good time, dude, too. The golden challenge. They shut down the unit. So nobody could go out, nobody could have visitors,

they couldn't go to the gym. And then they sat in a circle and tried to get me to admit that I had drank, but I hadn't drank. The next day, so they had just like a marathon meeting and I just said I didn't do it. The next day, they, the next day they tested me again, I came back positive again.

So then they went in and they took away everybody's perfume and their hairspray and anything that might have alcohol. And they were trying to figure out where is he getting that alcohol. And that happened for 13 days in a row. And at one point I said to them, put me on the suicide watch because there was a glass box where they can put you and observe you 24 hours.

I said, put me on that Everybody knows what I'm doing And then test me and they said no, you just got hammered So they finally they just said We don't know how you're doing it a doctor said to me five he said five years from now You'll you'll come back if you're still alive, you'll come back and tell us how you did it. And they asked me to leave.

And I called my brother and I said to him, here's what's happening, and he said, you just need to come clean and tell the truth. And then I called up an uncle and he said the same thing. Oh no. So I was like feeling, OK, there's nobody in the world who believes me right now. But I'm telling the truth.

And I just started laughing and I was talking to God and I was saying, you know, it's between you and me, and that's all that matters. The only thing that matters is my integrity. And and I have to be happy with that. And that incident just taught me a lesson that, you know, it doesn't what other people think of me is not my business, it's not my concern. What my concern with is if I have personal integrity, if I'm living a life of integrity, of character, and that then, you know, we're all in the middle of a dream. We're all in the middle of an adventure.

And ultimately, it's God's decision about how it turns out. Nice. It's respectable. So how do you... Okay, I have another question. So with all the... Like, are you familiar with, like, the deaths of despair and all the people who are like just either killing themselves overdose Yeah whole phenomenon of like the nihilism and spreading so and this is just from like me watching you you strike me as like a president who also has a pretty directly

Spiritual view it's not like dogmatically religious and what I can tell it's more so like you seem to have a direct connection with like a higher power from I guess like recovery and all that stuff as for being the president or like as president what do you think if you were to be elected what would you what would your role or like would you take it seriously trying to kind of combat like the pervasive nihilism and how that kind of relates to like the deaths of despair and all the overdoses and stuff you think that's like an important role? And is that like possible to

have a policy thing? I think it's absolutely critical. And, you know, we have particularly, you know, this younger generation of kids, generation X, millennials who feel completely disconnected, they're disconnected from any kind of hope for their own lives. because they're not going to live the way that our generation live. They know that they can't afford a house. The central fulcrum of the American dream for my generation was that if you worked hard, if you played by the rules, you're going to be able to finance a home, you're going to be able to raise a family, you're going to take a summer vacation, and you're going to

put something aside for your retirement, all with one job. There is nobody in my kids generation, I have seven kids. One of them is in a house, the six younger ones who all have good jobs, all went to great schools, none of them have a hope for getting in a home. A part of it is, and there's this poll that was taken in 2013 where kids under, Americans under 18, 35 were asked, are you proud of the United States of America?

85% said yes. The same poll taken four months ago, 18% said yes. So somehow that entire generation in the last two presidencies has completely lost faith over their future. And I think that's part of the problem, this detachment, but also there is the shattering of community bonds that's occurred where people are being fragmented,

they're being alienated, atomized, and a lot of it has to do with social media and the kind of decline of communication, the decline of social relationships, the destruction of Main Street, you know, the local, all of these little things that bound us to community, nature, the local store, the hardware store, the bookstore, the relationship, the boy scouts, you know, all the relationships that we had are now, that held our country together and that built this idea of community are now being eroded and we need to build those back. And we build those back by rebuilding our industrial base, by getting people into homes.

Because if you're in a home and you care about your community, you go to the PTA meetings, you go to the, you know, you care about your police, your fire protection, you're part of a community, you're part of something bigger than yourself. But also you have an equity so you can borrow money and if you have an entrepreneurial impulse, you can borrow money. And if you have an entrepreneurial impulse, you can pursue it. And this generation, you know, part of going from a nation of owners, from an ownership society to a nation of renters, we go from being citizens to being subjects. And they see that happening to themselves.

And you know, all of this alienation and dispossession that you see in that generation is confluence of economic factors and the social media that are just driving people apart and all the bonds that once held together are gone. One of the things I'm going to do is start these wellness farms, and that's going to be my big Peace Corps program. Right now the biggest industry in rural areas is prisons. And I'm gonna start building these wellness farms where kids can go and reconnect with the communities

where there's no cell phones, there's no screens, people raise organic food. They can attend if they want 12 cent meetings, but it's the recovery areas, people can get off of SSRIs, they can get up a bent so they can get off of illegal drug, go there for as long as they need to go and recover. I went to the model for this this place in Italy called San Padre Nana's, where they have 2000 kids and it's about several thousand acres, they have a vineyard, they have 2,000 kids and it's about several thousand acres. They have a

vineyard, they have kennels where people learn how to take care of animals for you know as part of an employment. They have a bakery that's a prize-winning bakery they make. They have a wine making facility that's you know produces some of the best wines in Europe. They have a furniture factory, they have an apparel factory, they have wallpaper painting, and they have traditional artisans who are teaching these kids a trade. And when they leave, they have something. They have their place in a job when they leave. There's a place in Salt Lake called the Other Side, which is based upon that model, and they're doing the exact thing in downtown Salt Lake,

and they have 300 ex-cons there, a lot of them drug addicts, and they run one of the biggest storage companies in Utah. They own a moving company. They own a lot of little companies, and they teach these people how to be reliable, how to show up on time, how to talk to other human beings, how to keep a bank account, all of the kind of the skills that you need to be part of

a community and part of society and we need to reparent this generation of kids and restore them. We're spending right now over $100 billion on Ukraine and we have a crisis in this country that is, that we're ignoring. And it's we're losing this generation of kids and I'm gonna put an end to that. Nice. Awesome.

Yeah, that's something I always worry about too. It doesn't seem like it's going very well for a lot of people. Yeah, but you love the dumbass region. The what? The dumbass. Matt's obsessed with it. That's why he keeps giving all that money to Ukraine. The last thing I was rushing to get the dumbass. I am on a hamster wheel.

That's all I podcast for is to send more money. My son went over there. Yeah, I knew that. Yeah. How's he doing? He's good. He's practicing law now in New York. I mean, in LA, he's living with me, which is great. He's got a very, very beautiful Brazilian girlfriend. She's a pop singer.

Awesome. I think they may be getting married. Hell yeah. This is all private conversation, right? So wait, why can't we be friends with Russia? With Russia. Yeah. I don't understand why we can't just be friends.

I think we can be. I think it's important. I think it's very important. Yeah, I think it's really important too. And that's, you know, they lost the Cold War. Yeah. And you know, the most important diplomat in modern American history is a guy called George Cannon

and he's the architect of the containment policy after World War II. And he said, you know, in 1996, 1997, when the Clinton administration began extending NATO to the East, to putting it in all these former Soviet block countries, he said, you can't do that. You're treating Russia like the enemy, and it is going to be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

You're going to turn them into the enemy, because if you treat them that way, they're going to have to arm, and they're going to have to defend themselves. We should be inviting them into the market. We should be inviting them into the market. We should be inviting them into, you know, Western life. And I think we we lost a big opportunity there. And I'm not saying Putin is a good guy because he isn't.

But the Russian people like us and they love our culture. Yeah, it's it's I don't I don't I truly don't understand it. The same is true of Iran, by the way. I mean, Iranians are love the United States. You know, I read this poll recently that the favorite television show for Iranian teenagers was Oprah. Nice. You know, they're not exactly like American teenagers, but they there's like 40 year old women.

Yeah, it's crazy. It is crazy. Yeah, it's like, is open up trade and just, you know, be cool. I don't know. Russia for real is like Russia scares me. I've told you, I've been every night. I've been listening to this book. It's called A Nuclear War Scenario.

Yeah, it's terrifying. It's the scariest book I've ever read. And it's like, why? Why are we? Why are we even? Why are we even coming close to the idea? It's the end book I've ever read and it's like why? Why are we? Why are we even coming close to the idea? Yeah, it's the end of the world and and people assume that we've got the best nuclear arsenal in the world and the Russians The Russians do yeah, they've got I think they've got 2,500 more weapons than we do But they have much better weapons. They have you know, they've better defensive

I think that's really scary about the book is it talks about Russia's like tundra, their early weapons, what's it called, like early detection technology is like kind of subpar. So they, if we just launch any missiles, they have no idea. And they're like, that could be a hundred missiles. It could be at Russia. We have to preemptively strike. Oh no. It's just, it's all, it's a nightmare.

And I don't know. But they have the most, yeah. we have to preemptively strike. Oh no. It's just, it's all, it's a nightmare. I don't know. But they have the nightmare. They have the most, yeah. We have, if they do launch, or if there is a mistaken launch. Yeah. Oh Jesus. This one, Amaryllis, who's my daughter-in-law who runs my campaign, she was a CIA agent for many years,

and she says, you know, if that's a three o'clock in the morning and President Biden, they wake him up and he has seven minutes to make the call. And he's got to think about the whole book. He's got six guys pushing him through a tunnel at full speed. And he has to make he during that period while he's still running through the tunnel, he has to make the call. Do you that period while he's still running through the tunnel He has to make the call the entire back and the entire world or not. Yeah. Oh, it's it's

So scary, dude, the books so scary. I don't even think about accidents Yeah, I mean that happened once it happened in the Soviet Union I think it's like in the 80s this Russian guy the Soviet guys saw, it was a radar malfunction and he was like, America launched and I guess it was only 10 missiles and he was like, it would be more than that if they really wanted to do it. I'm not gonna tell anyone. And he was right, there was no actual launch.

And did he get court-martialed or something? I'm not sure, I think he eventually got. One of those guys got court-martialed. He got considered, yeah, his nickname's like, the guy who saved the planet. Because he did, because his real job was to say, yes, they launched. And he was like, I don't know.

This is like a big responsibility to end the world right now or not. Whoa. Yeah, it's very scary. Yeah, that's terrifying. I never thought, it reminds me of that Trump speech. He was like, it's the N word. You ever see that? Yeah.

It's one of the funniest speeches. He's doing a rally and he's like, he I guess Trump just he came to the conclusion that it's very serious to even discuss nuclear weapons. And he's given a rally and he's like, there's a new N word. Everyone's like, Jesus Christ. Come on. He's like, no, not the other one. It's like, God damn it, dude. You know, I don't know if it was about,

I think it was two years ago. Your producer would probably be on top of this. He's looking at girls on Instagram. Where Hawaii got that notice. Oh yeah, yeah. I remember that there had been a launch, that there was incoming and everybody should run into their bomb shelters, which of course-

Which would do nothing, yeah. God damn, yeah, that's kind of terrifying. But now too, if we're friends of Russia, they might be like, you just like me because of my nukes. True. You know? It might just be like, you just like me because of my nukes.

Russia might just be kind of like... It is true though. You don't even have to like them. If we didn't have nukes, we wouldn't have to like them. But it's important we like them. Yeah, that's what I worry about. I worry about the organization of the world at the highest of levels. It seems kind of terrifying.

That's what I hated about, like, when Trump went to North Korea and was becoming close with Putin and all that, it's like, don't try to divide, like that's good. I don't care, that's good. That's better than them having animosity towards Putin. He should be a permanent diplomat to like, to tell Tarian. Not barely people like him. He's great at it. If elected, will you send him to North Korea?

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Yeah, ShaneMGillis dot com for shows and also May 23rd tires. Thank you. That's got to be crazy too because yeah you don't really have like a broadcast home where like Trump was getting kind of defended by Fox for a while then like MSNBC would slam them and Biden they would you know MSNBC would defend Biden. You get attacked from pretty much every major news organization, which is crazy. Yeah, I mean, there's a couple of these new networks like News Nation that give me a platform. The Hill. The Hill. They they like me, but then they and they and they didn't turn on me on Gaza. Ah, yeah.

But you know, I like watching them. I think that they're trying to play it straight, that they don't have an ideology really. But- Can I ask what was it that they turned on you for Gaza? Well, they, the woman who's on that show, Brianna, who was, I think she was Bernie's press secretary, and she feels like, you know, she accepts the narrative

that Israel, my understanding is that Israel has no legitimacy in the region and that it doesn't have a right to defend itself and that the war is, in Gaza is sort of a war of aggression by Israel and that they should be out. Right. Yeah, you caught a lot of heat about the Israel stuff. Yeah.

Again, which goes to the, you know, again, if you wanted to just read the room and just do the talking points, you could just be like bam, bam, bam and get out and be the man. That's a tough one. There's no real talking points on Israel. Yeah, but if you were younger voters.

It's two clashing narratives, but. Yeah. You know, the younger voters, the people of the anti-war movement, the younger voters, the people, the anti war movement, the left wing of the Democratic Party that was kind of starting to lean toward me, you know, a lot of those people are believe that they're helping Palestine by supporting Hamas,

which I don't think is a good way to look at it. I think, you know, you have this you have to separate Hamas, which I don't think is a good way to look at it. I think, you know, you have to separate Hamas from Palestinians. I consider myself extremely pro-Palestinian and I don't think, I think leaving Gaza in the hands of Hamas is a non-starter. It means that nobody can really rebuild Gaza. It means that Hamas continues operating their kleptocracy there and training the kids to hate, to kill, to invade Israel. There's been five ceasefires and every one of them Hamas has used to rearm, to regroup,

to hoist the banner and to attack again. And Hamas says that's what we're going to do. We're going to do October 7th, October 7th, October 7th until Israel's gone. They don't want any territorial concessions. There's nothing you can negotiate. In fact, in their charter, they have a number of provisions that say even negotiating with Israel is a violation of Islamic law. Oh, I don't see how you sit down

and how you just stop fighting if they've declared war. Since 2006, they've shot an average of 2000 missiles a year at Israel. This war has been going on for 21 years. It really started in 2001. And I don't see, you know, that you just stop fighting. I don't I don't understand it. I heard a rumor that Netanyahu funded Hamas. You ever hear that?

Israel did not create a mosque and mosque created itself, but Netanyahu Has approved the funding of Hamas through cutter at least one point five billion dollars and probably close to five billion dollars and He has you don't have to speculate about his motives. Part of his motives is to, was to keep peace. And this is what he'll say, you know, we were buying them off to try to stop them from attacking us. And he also said very clearly at one point that

it's better to support Hamas because as long as Hamas exists, they can't, the the Ghazan Palestinians won't make common cause with the West Bank, which is, you know, because the Palestinian Authority which runs the West Bank is antagonistic to Hamas and to keep them apart assures that there won't be a two-state solution. So I think Netanyahu was, you know, part of his motive was to sabotage a two-state solution. And people say, okay, well, that was what he was doing and therefore we should condemn all of Israel.

But, you know, he's one guy. Yeah. And, you know, I mean, when George Bush and Dick Cheney were running this country, they did some pretty sketchy stuff, including invade a country that did nothing to us and destroy it, and yet we don't all hate America and say that we have no right to exist. Fair point.

That's a pretty fair point. Yeah, it's one of those things I always try to read about it No matter what I read it's like swayed one way or the other deeply and you're like, yeah They get me all the time, but I know a lot of the independent younger youtubers are pro Palestine but yeah, yeah the Dave Smith had a good one our friend Dave Smith. He's a libertarian Jewish man Our debate with him on Palestine.

He had a good tweet about it the other day, about how the media now, like the media allowed, like the BLM, the protests that, you know, they got pretty wild. They were all supporting that, but the second college students almost entirely peacefully protesting Israel they are condemning across the board almost and he was like the reason simple is because

The BLM protests made Trump look bad the Palestine Israel conflict makes Biden look bad and that's why the media is clearly. I don't know. I thought that was interesting I don't think I have a question there, but no it was a good point. Yeah Yeah, I mean, yeah, no, I thought that was interesting. I don't think I have a question there, but. No, it was a good point. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think. Did I take it like that or am I foolish? I read the same thing, I like the two. No, I like the two, and it is true,

it is kind of nauseating like that. What do you think of that? I mean, I think people should be able to peacefully protest and that's part of the right of being an American. So when, at some point, does those protests become across the line if you're, if you, you know, if you block students from going to class, you block Jewish students from going to class, if you're, if you're occupying buildings, if you're trespassing, the university has a right to,

you know, to discipline you. The rights are very different if you're on a state school campus, because the state really should not be censoring anybody on the First Amendment. But if you're in a private school campus and you have, you you have you know community guidelines that protect for example non-white students the same protection should be given to Jewish students yeah just it sucks because the thing they do that I don't like with the Israel debates if you if you're like I don't like what Israel is doing in this case or like you're anti-semitic you hate the Jews and it's like dude I truly don't but that's the one trap I think they fall into where it's like you must hate Jewish people and it's like, dude, I truly don't. But that's the one trap I think they fall into

where it's like, you must hate Jewish people. And it's like, no, dude, I just think that that one particular instance is kind of bad. So it is itself. I feel like if you're, Israel is a democracy, it's the only democracy in the mid East. And that, you know, part of the duty of living in a democracy is that you criticize your own government

and that we all have a, not just, not a, you know, I don't know of an obligation, but we all have a right to criticize the government of Israel without being anti-Semitic. I think it turns into anti-Semitism when you're applying a double standard when you're judging Israel by standards that you're not judging the neighboring countries or West Bank or Gaza. You know, if you say, you know, Israel is guilty of genocide, which clearly it is not. In 1948, when the Palestinians left Israel, 750,000 of them left, there is now 7.2 million. So it's the opposite of genocide.

And if you look at the surrounding countries during that war, those countries expelled their Jewish populations. There's many of those countries, for example, Jordan, where there's not a single Jew, and the countries that still have, there's only, I think, 15,000 Jews remaining in all of those countries, and that is a genocide,

and it's continuing, and they're also, those countries are also committing genocide, many of them against Christians like real organized Systematic we're gonna kill you if you don't leave And that's not true in Israel Israel if you're a Palestinian in Israel. There's 1.8 million Palestinians of Israeli citizenship and they have all the rights of Jews. They vote in elections. They can run for the Knesset. There's 10 Arabs who are serving in the Knesset. They can run for prime minister. They serve on every level of the judiciary.

In fact, four years ago, a district court judge who was Arab convicted an Israeli prime minister of corruption and put him in jail for seven years, and that decision was upheld by an Arab judge on the Supreme Court. Nothing like that could happen in the West Bank. In fact, these protests, if you tried to do these kind of protests in the West Bank or Gaza,

you would be killed. There's no free speech. There's no freedom of press. There's absolute, there's freedom. In fact, I think there's 27 states in the Mideast, and I think 26 of them have an official religion, and Israel is the only one that doesn't. Israel has freedom of religion.

You can worship anybody you want in Israel and without penalty you can, you know, people who are Arab or Jews or other nationalities and ethnicities, Shia or Sunni, have all the same rights as a Jew. So, you know, saying that you're, you know, saying that Israel commits genocide without talking about what's really happening around them is a double standard. And when you, you know, you know, there's no freedom of the press. There's in West Bank or Gaza. If you even talk about these things, about opposing the leadership, you know, your life is at risk. If you're gay, you get killed. Heard that.

If you're a woman, you have no rights. Yeah, I've heard they're pretty tough on that as well. What did Dave Smith say? What did Dave Smith say? What? What did Dave Smith say to all that? What did he say? Nah. Well, we didn't, you know, Dave is very smart guy. Yeah.

That's why I wanted to talk to him about this. Because, you know, I wanted to, I wanted to talk to them. I think he's probably the smartest guy out there on that. From that point of view, he avoided a lot of these. We our conversation avoided a lot of those issues, and I think it was much narrower conversation. I think. Yeah, those debates spin off into like in 1942, the jurors and they did this in the battle of blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I don't even know what you're talking about. Yeah. But yeah, they should really, you know,

put that into more of a ceasefire. But it is tough because it's hard to talk about the issue without talking about the history. Yeah. Because it goes, you know, there's kind of an assumption that Israel is not a legitimate country somehow. And that all the other, all of those countries were created by the British and the French after World War I when they cut up the Ottoman Empire.

And they, you know, Woodrow Wilson had said to them, I will only participate in this war if the people who are living in those countries get to govern those countries. Britain was given the leadership over the administration of the Palestinian mandate, which was Palestine, which was one of the bigger chunks of the Ottoman Empire. And Britain made a decision, they actually went and interviewed people and they interviewed the Jews and the Arab, there were a Jewish population and Arab population and the Jews

are always been a second class race. They were called Demis since Mohammed conquest. in Congress. And, and the the Muslim leader whose name is was Mufti al-Husseini said, Yeah, if this is all our land, there's nothing here for the Jews. And we don't even want to stay even a mile wide for Jews. And any Jews that stays here will have second class citizenship. The British said that the Jews had helped the British in World War I and World War II, and the Arabs have been against them.

Oh, the Jews had taken Israel's promise that we're going to give you your homeland here. They said they were going to give them all Palestine. Instead, they gave 85% of Palestine to Arabs, and they gave them a little sliver, about 10 to 15%. So Israel, but all of those nations were created out of whole cloth, and none have made any sense.

I mean, Syria had a Kurdish population in it that was never given a homeland. The Christians were given a homeland in Lebanon because there was a lot of Maronite Christians. They were given their own homeland. The Jews were given up a small, tiny little homeland in Palestine, which is, you know, where they had, there had been a Jewish presence there for 2,700 years. The Arabs were given most of it. But there is a feeling among the Arabs

that you shouldn't have any of it. And that's really what this dispute is about. How could we end it? Nukes. No. Listen. Are they going to keep bringing that shit up? I know.

You know, the thing is that Israel is at peace with two of its neighbors. When I was growing up, it was inconceivable that Israel would ever have a peace agreement with Jordan or Egypt, and it has peace agreements. Now you have the Abraham Accords that are three more nations that wanna make peace with Israel, and it appeared that Saudi Arabia also wants to join the Abram Accords.

And, you know, Saudi Arabia did something really interesting, which is after 9-11, because Saudi Arabia had very, very radicalized population. And those were the people, I think, 26 of the hijackers on 9-11 were Saudis because they had these Wahhabi This this strain of Wahhabism, which is a very radical form of Islam and jihadist form and the Saudi Arabian government had encouraged it and And but after 9-11 they were critiqued all over the world And they made a decision, we're going to deradicalize. And they put in place all of these programs

to deradicalize their population, and it worked. And so I think the ultimate solution is that is economic development. Gaza should be one of the richest, most pleasant places to live in the world. It has miles of white sand beaches, it's the beautiful bluffs, it has the richest agricultural land,

it has a foot of topsoil. It has, it's an oasis, so it has abundant freshwater. It has a port that is at the confluence of the Mediterranean Sea and the Suez Canal and all the trade routes from Africa, Mideast, Asia, Europe. It should be the Singapore of the West. And if you know, if you had people who are focused on economic development, this place would be thriving. But instead, all of the money that they get, they spend, they steal, you know, the top who are focused on economic development, this place would be thriving.

And instead all of the money that they get, they spend, they steal. The top three guy, the top guy at Hamas, Ismail Haneya has a net worth of $5 billion, which he's stolen every penny of it. His two lieutenants have a net worth, collectively, of $6 billion. And all the other money they get, they spend building an underground city, 300 miles of tunnel.

Imagine the innovative and the entrepreneurial and the resourcefulness of these people to be able to make 300 miles of tunnels under their city and all that's gone to war. What if you put those, that resourcefulness to work actually building a society that people could be proud of which is what the Jews did. The Jews took a piece of Israel, Palestine, a little tiny sliver nine miles across and it's now got one of the highest GDPs in the world

and it was barren wasteland for thousands of years. And you know the people in Gaza have that capacity and I think if the world comes together around them and says we're not going to tolerate on us anymore, we're going to create a Marshall Plan so that you know you and your children and generations of children can thrive. This is what we did after World War II. The Nazis ran Germany. We denazified them and now they're the richest country in Europe.

Nobody worries about them going to war because we got rid of that ideology. The same thing happened in Japan. It's the richest, what is it, Japan, I think third richest country in the world. So I think you can de-radicalize them with good leadership. The problem is that there are some institutions there, including the United Nations that have actually amplified the problem rather than trying to solve it.

That's a good answer. The regime. So far as your funniest interview that you've ever done. Yeah, no, that's good. But the regime changes in Germany and Japan. That was a pretty heavy cost. I mean, we killed two million German civilians. Yeah. It's gonna be harder.

It's difficult to do that. But it's a much smaller country, right? So, you know, it did come at a heavy cost, but I think, you know, to me, you have to get rid of, step one is they have to get rid of Hamas, because let's say Israel left right now. Israel left Lebanon and, you know, and Lebanon immediately, Hezbollah became the hero

and they're kind of, you know, of the world and became 10 times as powerful because it looked like they had defeated Israel militarily. So if Israel leaves right now, it makes Hamas 10 times as powerful. And then they leave an enemy at their border that they know is just rebuilding for the next attack. And that it's not gonna negotiate with them.

Will not be satisfied with any outcome except the annihilation of Israel. Oh, I think you have to get rid of that ideology. And you know, after, at the end of World War II, Roosevelt and Churchill met at Casablanca to decide what was gonna happen. This was after the Normandy invasion. They knew that they had the capacity then to destroy Germany.

And Churchill said we should we should not do an unconditional surrender because if we do that, then every German is going to fight to the death. And Roosevelt said, if we don't do unconditional surrender, and we don't denazify Germany, they're going to come back in 10 years and do it again. As soon as they get another generation, they're going to come back. You got to denazify them. Oh, I think the same argument applies to Hamas is that you got to get rid of them in order to give the Palestinians a chance to really rebuild their country. And then the whole world has to come to their aid and start, you know, incentivizing economic development rather than, you know, you know, the

devotion, the commitment to all of their human and financial resources to, to, you know, to a war machine. financial resources to a war machine. After World War II, between 1944 and 1948, we did the Marshall Plan in Europe, and there was 17 countries in Europe. We rebuilt them all, and we rebuilt them. The amount of money that we gave for the Marshall Plan was $626 per capital, per person in all

of those countries over a four-year period and in 20, $23. So it was $42 at that point today at $626. We've given over the past 20 years $8,600 to every Palestinian. And yet, they're worse off than when we found them. Why? Because all that money has been used, either stolen or used to build a war machine. And so, you know, it's just throwing money down a rat hole instead of building a society that makes people proud, that, you know, makes people hopeful about their future, that gives them power in the world and sovereignty over their own destinies. And that's what we need to do for the Palestinian people.

Yeah, it's just tough now. Like in World War II, you could war, people go to war and they'd be like, oh yeah, whatever. It's just what it is now. With like, there's footage, it's like babies dead, it's Elvin can just be spun into just like, you don't know what's what. Because you're seeing it on social media. Yeah, and you're just like, it is now with like yours footage. It's like babies dead It's elvin can just be spun into just like you don't know what you're seeing it on social media Yeah, it's like this is terrible. So like you were saying if you have to you know Take military intervention to like remove Hamas Chains like yeah, well you have to kill like hundreds of thousands of people. It's like I feel like people feel the or they see the effects of war more acutely now. So it just seems just like,

they do a good job of keeping the Ukrainian footage out. Yeah. You don't see that. I guess you really don't. You know, I think that's interesting. I haven't seen it. You don't see any of it at all? Rarely. You see like some drone operating footage, but there's really not that much online about what's going on in Ukraine.

That's weird. Yeah. Compared to Israel, Palestine. There's video there everywhere. Yeah. You know what I mean? There's there's much worse wars going on right now than Ukraine. I think there's been 300000 kids killed in Yemen. Yeah. And, you know, we're supporting that war and nobody complains about it. And in Syria, the same thing.

What they did to the Kurdish population in Syria, in Iraq, we killed half a million kids. With the sanctions and with the war, half a million children died to get rid of a guy who never did anything to us. Terrible. So, and you know, so it's, we do have to ask ourselves,

and there's conflicts all over the world right now that are worse than what's happening in Gaza, and why is nobody can is nobody complaining? Why don't we have protests is it do we only protest? When there's Jews involved or you know, do we do we care about all these other places where Muslims are being killed? The eager the Uyghurs in in China, you know all over there are slaughters taking place of Muslims and You know, all over there are slaughters taking place of Muslims and evictions taking place and nobody's complaining about them. But it's just one place where they complain and that's when, you know, it happens to be

when the one Jewish nation in the world, and by the way, people say when they say Israel is an apartheid state, how can you say that when every nation in the region has actual apartheid rules and Israel is the only one that doesn't? Apartheid was in South Africa and there was 143 rules that were race-based and that punished minority races or gave them, and Gaza has that.

In the West Bank. It's the death penalty for selling property to a Jew in Jordan. It's the death penalty for selling property to a Jew. Why aren't people complaining about the apartheid state in Jordan or you know, they set the bar pretty low over in the Middle East or they set the bar pretty low over in the Middle East. They set the bar pretty low. And that's really a double standard. Yeah, it's bad.

There's a famous story about the guy who is the president of Harvard. His name, Richard Lowell. In the 1920s, and he was trying to get, you know, Harvard was the first Ivy League school that let Jews in. And he was trying to get rid you know, Harvard was the first Ivy League school that let Jews in, and he was trying to get rid of all the Jews in Harvard. So he made the applications by Jews much, much more rigorous than the application process for other people. And he was asked, why are you doing that? And he said, because Jews cheat. And people would say to him, well, other people cheat too. And he said, he'd say, you're trying to change the subject. I'm talking

about the Jews. So that is the kind of level of conversation that you have when you say, well, Jordan kills people for executes people for selling land to Jews. I'm talking about Jordan. I want to talk about Israel. Yeah, that's a fair point. Yeah, there is everyone. It's taken for granted. Like, oh yeah, they throw people off roofs and stuff. You all know that.

Also, thankfully, Harvard has since changed their racial acceptance policy. Yeah, true. They use it against Chinese people. Real quick one. What's going on in Haiti? Are we going to help Haiti ever figure out what's going on in Haiti? Are we gonna help Haiti ever figure out what's going on down there? I mean, every time we've interviewed in Haiti,

it's made Haiti worse off. You know, it's the poorest country in the hemisphere and it's in total chaos right now. I'll tell you an interesting story about Haiti. And Haiti was the, you know, it was the pearl of the Caribbean. It was the richest colony that France owned. And during the Revolutionary War,

France came over, sent armies over and helped us win the revolution. Some of their, they had a couple of battalions that were all black from Haiti that came over here and fought. And those guys saw what was happening in America and they said, we can do the same thing. So they went back to Haiti and they started a revolution against the French. At that time, there were Americans who were coming down the Ohio River, down the Ohio River, onto the Mississippi and invading New Orleans, which was a French possession.

So there were Americans flooding into New Orleans and the French were worried that the Americans were going to take New Orleans away. So it sent the biggest fleet in history over to New Orleans to get rid of all the Americans. And they said, on our way, we're gonna stop in Haiti and suppress this rebellion. They stopped in Haiti and the Haitians wiped them out along with Yellow Fever. They destroyed the French army, the French military,

and the French had to go limp back to France without ever going to New Orleans. And when they got back to France, they had bankrupted the country. And so Napoleon had to sell New Orleans, Louisiana, purchased to America for, I think, $28 million. And it was Haiti that really created, in that way, that played such a key role in creating our country.

And the Haitians expected support from us because they were the second place in the world that had a revolution against colonialism. They were trying to start a democracy. But these slave owners in the American South were very, very worried about the example. So the US government therefore boycotted and starved Haiti, and that was the beginning

of the destruction because it was the richest island in the Caribbean and the world. And because of that, and because they were being starved, they had to cut down all the trees, And because of that, and because they were being starved, they had to cut down all the trees, and the soil eroded, and you had this cycle where the US then goes in and invades periodically with the Marines, and every time just takes

a little more out of Haiti. So it's a sad example of US foreign policy. That's pretty terrible, I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, Haiti's, there's a good know, it's a sad example of US foreign policy. That's pretty terrible. I know that yeah. Oh Yeah, Hades. There's a good podcast on it revolutions about the Haitian Revolution. It's pretty awesome. I know you're I understand I understand But yeah, we get we should help them out don't you think yeah, yeah, we got it Help our neighbors out. Yeah, I'd be awesome to work on those cartels a little. So I figured out I have one quick question left.

So I don't think you've never voted before. Have you? No. Neither of us have ever voted before. How do you do it? How do we vote? I know we got to fill out a form online to register. How do you actually vote? I've never done it before. How do you vote? How old are you?

38. I told you my generation is dispossessed. You don't like funny. I'll tell you what. You don't need an ID. You don't need an ID. You definitely don't need an ID. That would be racist.

Wouldn't it be racist if you need an ID? It would. Anyway, I'm going to go to the bar. No, I'm just kidding. We go online. You. Those racist bastards better not check my ID at the bar. You know how you do it.

You go online, fill it out and then go in there. Yeah, I mean, one of the things I'm going to do when I get into the White House is the first day I'm going to order the passport office or I order the post office in the State Department to issue passport cards to every American who can't afford them. Because right now there's a lot of Americans who don't have ID, they don't have a government issued photo ID, mainly they're people, they're elderly, they're all Democratic constituency. They're elderly people whose license have expired. They're young college students

who can't get a license. I mean, who haven't gotten a license yet because that whole generation. I mean, when I was, the day I was 16th birthday, I had my driver's license. I currently have an expired license and it's hard to get an ID in Texas. You have to sign up like three months in advance.

Yeah, and it's a nightmare to go to DMV. Nobody wants to do that. And then there are minorities in cities who don't have driver's license, because they don't have a car. So that's why the Democratic Party is so, does not want voter ID at the voting booth. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna say,

and nobody wants to go to DMV, but there's 30,000 post offices, and anybody who is a US citizen ought to be able to go there and get a government issued photo ID. Al Sharpton and Andrew Young have said, if I do that, they will waive any objection to requiring a ID at the voting booth. So that will diffuse this huge tension between Republicans and Democrats You know, you know, you don't want ID at the voting booth. We do obviously we should have ID But I understand why the Democrats don't like it because it disenfranchises millions of their voters

We could solve that problem that way the other thing is if you don't have a driver's license or a government issued photo ID, you're a second class citizen, you can't open a bank account, you can't go to get out on an airplane, you can't stay in a hotel, you can't see your kid at school.

So it will solve problems for a lot of other people. And then, you know, right now it's illegal to employ an illegal alien, an undocumented alien. But people do it anyway because all you have to do is check out a box. It says, I saw their social security card. Well, social security cards are easily fabricated. They're used on job sites in New York. They're passed hand to hand.

So everybody just shows them to the boss and then they pay them in cash at the end of the day and nobody ever gets arrested for hiring undocumented. What I'm going to do is say everybody has a government issued photo ID at a job site or the employer goes to jail and that will shut down the border because everybody's coming through that border because they want a job. If they know you cannot get a job in the united states Unless you have a government issued photo id they're not going to be flocking there anymore. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like a pretty simple I don't know. I guess crazy. They've never done that before Never even thought of that either. I was like, well, you just can't get one. Sorry. Yeah, just print it out. That's a good idea Uh, I think we have to wrap it up. Thank you very much. This was yeah. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for

Having me. I'm sorry. It wasn't a funnier. No, yes. Yeah, dude. You're great. I was awesome. Thank you so much Thank you