Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast - Ep 503 - The Male Member (feat. Janus Bifrons)

Episode Date: July 20, 2024

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guys This is a tough time for this country and honestly, I'm sorry. I'm so late to releasing an episode this week But this week was tough for me man. I had a really I'd ask myself some hard questions I said, you know, there's a lot of bad stuff going on that assassination attempt just a just a country fighting even more reality just kind of becoming more and more untethered and people just kind of selecting this and that to be real over other things. And I really I didn't want to talk politics.

It's like almost I guess it's expected to like weigh in on this whole situation. And I honestly tried I talked for 45 minutes about the whole thing. And it just sucked because my heart wasn't in it. Between us, what I really wanted to talk about this week is dicks. I wanted to talk dicks and I was like, is this really the right time? Like, I don't want to be irreverent towards the American political system, but I'm like, who am I to just talk dicks for two hours straight? Like, for real, I'm talking for real, just dick talking. You'll see what I'm talking about

But I decided to go with my gut and I said America needs to know You know how to increase flaccid length flaccid girth Obviously erect length and girth and just kind of getting as hard as you possibly can what are some of the things we can do? for that and So I brought on an expert so what's going on with like we're going to jump in to a sliver of the thing that I was doing after I got done talking about all of the assassination business, which really it was just boring. I bored myself while talking about it.

I did. I just it's not my lane. It's not my thing. Maybe one day if you guys are like, I want to see it. Maybe I'll put it on patreon. Maybe I'll just fucking Release it. So it sucks. It for real sucks. Like I'm not trying to entice anybody it blows. I it is not good But I Did finally get to talking dicks and then brought out an expert to kind of like, you know ask him some questions learn the guy's name is Janice Biffran and

he created what's known known as fallow Genesis and Dude, if this for real might be the most important interview I I'll ever do It's at obviously a topic that strikes at the the real heart. You think your political party is a big deal, dude What if I told you? You could get fatter like and you'll see as he explains like a lot of us could be girth monsters if

We just maybe just kept an open mind and heart to a pretty holistic approach For making your bird the best it could be that's all I'm saying. This is the stuff We need to be talking about as a country. I know we're divided but let's come together on this issue Let's get harder bigger birds dude all of us for every man. That's what I'm talking about Let's jump right in to the thing and then you'll see alright. Thank you guys that all brings me to the real thing I wanted to talk about and that is. Man, if you're still listening, God bless your little fucking heart. I recently came in, you know, this now I've, you know, obviously we broke down the

political situation. I gave you some bad news to hopefully you can feel better at, you know, poor, the poor lady's expense. Um, you also, as you eventually escaped from the brothels, I don't feel too bad, but. I figured out how to, and I think how to increase flaccid size. I really have like dude. I'm not I'm not bragging you know I'm not want to be like yeah, dude my fucking dick so fucking big. I'm teenest up most the time But and the weather in Texas here is hot. I think it's absolutely a factor. My flaccid state has been

Bro, it's been like for real taking me a back even when I'm in the AC in my house I know obviously everyone gets like they weren't during the dog days of summer You do get kind of like, you know a bit of heat dick, which you know, everyone's always welcoming But dude, I've been like for real like I want to take a piss and being like yo Bro, like my flaccid state and here this is my theory and this is the only thing that's changed is I'm crushing water, dude I'm hitting like a gallon a day I'm not bragging. I have the Mountain Valley five gallon glass container water coolers. So stoked But I've been crushing a gallon of water a day

and I think height my theory my theory for Flaccid gains I sort of got flaccid gains is a dragon. I've been chasing I don't even care about my boner dude. It is what it is My boner is but a tool for the creation of life my flaccid flaccid state is what I'm more Kind of you know, that's my thing that that's the dragon I'm really chasing and I've learned if you want to increase your flaccid state hydration and Mindset so those two things if you're kind of nervous or squirrely your dong will shrink up you will fucking if you're like

If you can take a deep breath Confidence mode you're well hydrated dude I swear by this my flaccid state has been like like put it this way if someone snapped a photo of it I'd be like yes I don't know that's all I'm saying. It's nothing impressive or anything people are like holy fuck But it's absolutely serviceable and honestly I feel I feel like if like the last couple Bathroom breaks I've taken if I had to take that my lifetime acting goal is to be an extra on HBO and show my penis so Acting goal is to be an extra on HBO and show my penis. So If I ever get to do that, I have the I have the exact recipe

Obviously, I'm not gonna be biggest on the block But it would be like if I was on Westworld like standing a bunch of around a bunch of robots and I would be proud Yeah, that's my dick I'd be proud of it, you know, it is what it is. It would ask me. Yeah, that's me So and in the kind of I do want to delve into this matter a little further. So I have an expert I'm gonna talk to hopefully tonight and I can kind of just splice this right in here About how to get your dick bigger cuz you know If the political world's falling apart and we're all addicted to our phones, we might as well have big-ass dicks

So I think that's very important. So hopefully let's say hopefully we're pinging him in right now. Come on. Come on brother Come on It took a lot to fucking convince this guy because he was he was weary but I said brother The dudes need to know how to get bigger hogs. He also he claims that fapping shrinks your dick What do you think about that? It's unwelcome news. Let's hear him out All right. There you go, dude Thank you so much for joining.

I mean, totally saving the day. I didn't know what I was going to do this week. See, I'll tell you, I'll sort of before I introduce you, I'm going to tell you how our, uh, we kind of cross paths. It was really weird. So it weirdly enough had to do with that all mess this week with, uh, former president Donald Trump. So he got that whole thing happened to him,

whatever terrible thing, but it kind of this spilled off of it because I'm sitting there, everyone's just flooding the internet with, you know, hot takes about politics, blah, blah, blah. I said, what's nobody talking about right now? I said, you know, I'm going to talk about the fact that every time I drink a gallon of water every day, my flaccid state is just the most remarkable. And I was like, nobody's talking dicks right now. So I'm going to fill the void. I'm going to corner the market.

I'm going to talk dicks when nobody's, everyone's, no one's paying attention. People are doing other stuff. So I jump in, I start talking dicks online. I'm talking about, you know, flaccid state for me. And you can correct me if I'm wrong. I think it's all hydration and mindset. What would you say about that? Um, hydration mindset for sure.

But the other thing is, which is where my work comes into play, blood vessels, blood vessel growth specifically. Whoa. And that's for, okay. So good. So we'll get into all that stuff. Um, but yeah, it was weird enough. So I put this tweet out about that specifically

and it like hit, I think the subreddit, my brother saw it and he was like, yo, check this out. And he was like, check out. And I think you came up somehow through that tweet, you came up in the subreddit as well, what you were doing. He was like, dude, check this out. And I was like, damn, that's crazy. So that's how I came to discover you.

And it's Janice Bifrons, correct? Janice Bifrons. I was going to ask you about your last name too. How do I say that last name? McCusker. McCusker? Got it. Nailed it. So Janice, introduce yourself. Exactly what do you do? You were just starting to explain it to me. It sounds fascinating.

So what do you do? And I'm glad you agree about my fast, my flaccid size theory, because it is, I swear to God, it's hydration. It is mindset. You're walking around here nervous, dude. You're going to shrimp up. Yeah, you're going to, you're going to shrimp up pretty fast.

So I got my start and, gee, I guess I'll wind it way the fuck back. I got, uh, fascinated with like blood vessels after I got out of bodybuilding when I was in my very, very, uh, like early childhood, you know, like teens and stuff like that. I had, uh, I had gotten really heavy into the bodybuilding scene. Blew up on steroids, you know, like got just huge and ended up having a pretty bad episode where I'd grown too fast and my skin came apart and I didn't notice until I got in the shower and I like bled out and smacked my head in like a shower alcove and shit like that.

Whoa, can I stop you there? How do you do that? Does that, that can happen? Yeah, yeah. If you, if, if you, if you grow too fast from taking steroids, your skin will come apart. Like it, you're, you're growing at a, you know, a super physiological rate. Your skin can't keep up depending on your cycle. Like bad shit can happen.

Yeah. You were fucking jacked. Yeah. Yeah. I was two hundred and seventy six pounds, single digit body fat. I'm five nine. So I mean, damn, dude. Yeah. It was it was up there.

And that started the blood vessel. That started your fascination with blood vessels. Well, yeah, because what basically happened after that is I had to go to the doctors because I ended up getting an infection in that particular skin tear that was in my groin. And my doctor just looked at me and was like, you can't keep doing bodybuilding. Your skin tears are getting too out of control. You keep this up, you're going to end up with like a deep muscle infection. You could be, you know, it could kill you. And tried and tried and tried to stay in it. And it was just, you

know, it's kind of like, kind of like for whom the bell tolls kind of thing. I knew it was done. But I love the body. I love the human body. I loved, I loved everything about it. And I was like, you know, I don't want this passion for bodybuilding to die just because I can't pursue it the way I want, you know, like what's a way I can pursue the same thing with bodybuilding, but, you know, in a direction that nobody else is thinking about. And also I heard about smooth muscles and blood vessels and shit like that.

I was like, you know, how the fuck do I grow those? How do I grow that? Cause you know, everyone else knows how to grow, you know, skeletal muscle. How do I grow the O's? How do I grow that? Because, you know, everyone else knows how to grow, you know, skeletal muscle. How do I grow my vascular system? And, you know, that was. Tail tail end of my teens, by the time bodybuilding was done and over for me,

I was about 18, 19 years old. And if you're wondering, yes, I was like taking steroids. By the time I was like 14 years old,, got it from my mentor and shit. So, Oh damn. That's, that's pretty young, dude. So you were like going through puberty on steroids. Well, I hit puberty super young. So puberty for me was like, I, I was like, you're like, you're the clock shit. Oh, kind of shit, you know? Damn. Oh yeah. You're no, you're right. 14 I guess would be, yeah. Yeah. It's like that whole way or like 11 through 15, 14. So you hit it.

And then you just kind of right afterwards smack with some roads. Yeah. Pretty much like my mentor had started me on a anti-estrogens first, just to try to max out my potential, get me, you know, as big as I possibly could. And then, you know, he and I sat in his front living room one night and was like, do you really wanna do this? And I was like, yeah, I really wanna do this. And I prepped my first dose,

sat there right there and we went out, we went out and ate at a Chinese buffet. And he was like, you've got one goal, keep up. Cause with bodybuilding, the one thing nobody ever tells you is that it's all eating. Like you can take all the steroids in the world, but if you cannot put down enough food to actually use what you're putting in your body, that steroid, you're not going to grow as fast. So like you'll hear a lot of the big guys talk, you know, it's all eating. But

that is not a particular topic. That's a little bit later on. We're on the tail end of all that. We're talking about vascular growth. Ask me something about that. Now, this is what I want to get the story. So the bodybuilding is like, I can't do it. You said, all right, obviously I'm trying to like, you're just about gains. You're like, I was going to get as big as possible. I'm not allowed to do that with like my skeletal muscles anymore. I might as well apply the same thinking to my, you know, to my D, if I'm thinking, if I'm following you, which by the way, by the way, noble quest, this is a very noble quest. So I, I'm glad. And you started that

around 18. I swear to God, dude, 99% of dudes are interested in this topic. Maybe 1% of dudes will talk about it. And I do applaud you. I can relate to that. Oh my God. Oh my God. Anytime someone finds out what I do, if they're at a party, the first thing they're going to do is they start making fun of me or ridicule me and shit like that. And I'm always like in the back of my head and like, you're going to be talking to me at the end of the night. I know it. I mean, I, I, yeah, it's one of the, it's such a weak flex to be like, I don't

even care about that. It's like, dude, get the fuck out of here, man. Yes. And it's like, dude, it's like, you could be a billionaire and you could be like, yo, I figured this out. They'd be like, they would fully set you up with the Tony Stark laboratory, but dude, do your thing. Right. Right. So yeah, dude, no, no shame in the game. I've been talking about this stuff forever. I'm all about it, dude. I think it's so I got into this because of, you know,

and I do, I do do a comedy podcast. So I always try to find it, you know, there was funny aspects of it, obviously, but I got into the movement of like, dudes who are circumcised and there used to be this company, I don't know if you've ever heard of it, obviously. But I got into the movement of like dudes who are circumcised. And there used to be this company, I don't know if you ever heard of it, called Manhood Canada, where they basically put like a sleeve on you where you can kind of regain your sensitivity. Oh, yeah. It's a foreskin restoration. Yes, yes.

So I kind of like started fucking around with that. And it is it just it kind of fits perfectly for a comedy podcast, because it is funny. I was walking around with like a basically like a Velcro sleeve on my dick all day. And it's just it's delightful. It's funny to hear about. It's kind of fascinating. So, yeah, so don't at all. If people, you know, people want to try to hate it's like, bro, stay in your lane. And it's like, like strong guys. Like there's no dude like the strongest dude, like if you're thinking about like MMA, Jiu Jitsu, they're not walking around trying to flex. There's always a dude who's not the strongest. So if you're thinking about like MMA, Jiu-Jitsu, they're not walking around trying to flex.

There's always a dude who's not the strongest. So if you're walking around being like, I don't even care about this dick row and talk, like you said, it's like, bro, I'll see you later. Guarantee you'll hit me up in a minute. So go on. So how did you, how did you start to study it? Like I would have, like, where would you start with this? So it's a really good question.

So I mean, I, I'm just just going to try what I'm going to do for you here is I'm just going to give you as much content as you're willing to get. And you can kind of like parse it snippet do what you want. So, so here we go. Obviously, same thing I'm like, well, I mean, at that point in time, I knew enough about, you know, the body. So I was like, well, I mean, you know, the male member. And that's how I prefer to say to it. Cause I hate male members. So what's male member made out of what's made out of, you know, like fascia and smooth muscles. So I was like, well, I mean, so if I, if I can't be like the biggest dude in the room, you know, I'm going to be like the biggest dude in the room. You know, that'm going to be like the biggest dude in the room.

You know, I heard that. Let's go. Let's go. Right. Like if I can't swing hammer, I'm swinging hammer. You know, it's one of those. So let's fucking go. What else is smooth muscle in your body? What else is that? Good question.

Basically, all of your blood vessels, your bones start out as that, which is something I'll get into later. Like it's, dude, it's a, it's a really, I, I got way more than I bargained for the deeper down this road I got like it, there's, there's certain aspects of it that even now, even years down the road that just just was my mind just blows my mind. So so I'll I'll I'll get into the start of it. And then and then we'll start to get in the heart of it. And I'm just going to like, yeah, do your thing, man. I got plenty of time. All right.

So so of course, I started out on all of the usual forums like Thunder's Place, PE Gym, tried matters of size, some of the smaller ones, just trying to learn about exercises in general, just trying to get a beat on it. And I did that for pretty much, well, you know, kind of like I said, kind of like the tail end of my teens started my early twenties. And you know, on top of that, behind all of this, during the bodybuilding days, I'm just doing everything I can to just learn about the body in general. So I'm just kind of adding to it, learning more about smooth muscles, learning more about

the sexual organs. What I discovered, and it's, it's painful to say this, it it's painful to say this, it's really painful to say this, like, and you'll understand why it's painful. It all just sucked. It was just all so horrible, so horribly damaging, so horribly flawed, poorly thought out. Like stretching.

So like jelking, sorry to cut you off, like jelking you're saying? Yeah, okay, like pretty much all of it. And I can and I can give you a breakdown of all that. But we'll start with joking since you're bringing that up. So with joking, joking actually has an incredibly rich history. So what joking was originally intended to do was it was a form of mock battle. So like whenever whenever a guy is entering a woman, you know, the vagina kind of closes in and

it pushes the blood in the cavernousal bodies, like kind of sucks it through the arterial channels that are deep and then pushes it out the venous channel. And what will happen a lot of times is when a guy's, you know, like really in the throes of it, you know, kind of going pound town. He has a really hard time maintaining an erection because his well, I mean, they didn't really know this way back when and I'm talking like centuries and centuries and centuries to go. You know, they didn't really know that it was a case of, you know, arterial insufficiency. So what they did is with jelking.

So what we know of it today, it's from base to glands. But it got misinterpreted because it starts in like way, like way out in like the middle East, like the far East and shit. All right. It was supposed to be from glands to base. It was supposed to be like a mock battle. It was supposed to mimic penetration. That's what it was supposed to do. And people are milking themselves like an utter basically. It was supposed to mimic penetration. That's what it was supposed to do. It was supposed to prepare you for that. And people are milking themselves like an utter basically going the reverse way.

Yeah, they're they're it got and it just got misinterpreted. Now, at the time, whenever I discovered Jelkin, I did not know any of this shit. So of course, I'm doing it from, you know, base to glands. And what's what's of course happening is I'm getting varicose veins I'm blowing out my veins. Damn That's what and that's what gel king the gel king that we know today. It causes varicose veins. It destroys The vascular pathways that that basically helps support and help the the male member work It's yeah, and and so try gelking got a lot of barricose veins from it got you know worsening potency did not get any size from it. Then I was like okay so jelking's not that

great gave that a try so let's try stretching let's see how that goes. Did stretching for a long time and I ended up with what I basically referred to as, you can almost call it like cap separation. So you've got the corporate cavernousal bodies, which are deep, and then over top those, you've got the tunica albuginea, and then over top that you've got a layer of veins, and then over top of that you've got the Bucs fascia, and then you've got a couple other structures that exist then underneath the Coles fascia. So basically whenever you do a pulling exercise, right? Like most pulling exercises, you're taking your hand,

you're forming a circle, you're wrapping it around your glands and then you're pulling up. That's what most stretch exercises, stretch devices, they're either a suction cup or there's some sort of a compression band that goes right underneath the glands and it's pulling on that. Well, what that will cause is, is it, it affects the more superficial structures, but it doesn't really affect the deeper structures like

the actual cavernous bodies. So what will happen is, is that bucks fascia that exists over top, that venous layer, which is over top the tunic albogonia, it'll stretch out. And so you start to get this, this bizarre wiggle at the top of your member to where your glands will actually kind of be slopping about on the top. Yes, yes. A lot of guys don't know this, but until I actually take the time to explain this to a lot of guys are like, I have no idea what this is. You know, they just think like, oh, you know, my glands are supposed to slip to the left and the right so incredibly easily. But no, that that's not the case. What's basically happened is, is has

have they have they elongated the tissue? Technically? Yes, they've elongated the box fascia. But when they do that, you end up with a hemodynamically or rather a hydraulically compromised member. So if you have separation between the bucks and then that underlying venous layer and the tunical bugania, you actually have a very difficult time keeping an erection.

So what you'll see a lot, and this is something that'll tie into something I'm sure you've seen, compression bands, like cock rings, like guys don't have to wear cock rings, right? They have to wear a cock ring because their member is hydraulically compromised. It doesn't work right anymore. So they have to wear cock rings in order to actually get hard because there's that layer separation. Is that the only way that can happen from the stretching or can that just be normal wear and tear?

To some extent, that's a really good question. That's a great, great question. It can actually happen with normal wear and tear. That's something that I see with guys that have erectile dysfunction, which is kind of where my work ties in later. So from doing jelking, from doing stretching, and so from the jelking and the stretching, and then I also did pumping, which is again the same set of problems. It

tends to work the tissue superficially, but not really deep, although there are some ways around that, which is actually something I have up on my reddit, but I'll explain that later So I tried to see gel king stretching pumping extending Tried injections by the way needles near your dick. That's really scary Was that like Botox injections not Botox. I was doing trimix I was getting trimix from this place called all day chemist, which is basically like this wide binary drug company out in the middle of the sea. Just let me stop you. Your ability to take these experiments to the next level is for real commendable. Like I tried jelking many moons ago and I just got scared. I was like,

bro, I'm not, this is, it like freaked me out. But like the fact that you're taking, you went all the way on all these things is admirable. So again, it's, it honestly is one of the most noble quests. So no needles. That doesn't work. Yeah. Well, okay. So like, so, so the injections, the injections actually work really well. They, uh, they didn't, they, they, they were nice.

The injections were nice. Uh, but at the same time, you know, Oh my God, you think, you think you've ever been hard on your life, dude, you give it up. Really nice. But but there there's there's a real risk of infection. There's a real risk of scar tissue. There's a real risk of fucking up the dose and having, you know, a medically induced

priapism that that could not go down. Like did you got to look up videos of how they drain a priapism like they they take this large gauge needle right and they shove it through your glands and then they penetrate the cavernousal bodies and then they suck the blood out sometimes they don't even do that sometimes they just take a scalpel and just run it through there and just squirt it out like a pimple. Oh my god Are you serious? I'm dead serious. It's you do not want to pry and that was what scared me

I was like this is like I mean, it's okay right now But when's the day gonna come that it's not gonna be okay and someone's gonna take a scalpel and be like Bob's your uncle You know, oh Yeah, oh my god. I didn't know that and this so what's the difference between this stuff and what you might call it? Botox. OK, so what Botox will do Botox will basically cause it'll basically cause your muscles to be unable to contract that they won't work properly, which will effectively cause an erection because it interferes with your muscles ability to contract. I see. I see. I see. Yeah. So I mean, like, you know, like rich white women, they're like, Oh, I've got wrinkles in my face. I mean, you shove a needle in there,

you know, and their muscles, they can't work anymore. You know, it's no wrinkles, you know, same principle. So yeah,, did did the injections. I never went so far as to inject like silicone into there. Like I've so doing this job, you see some things that are just like way out there. I mean, like way, way, way, way so far left field. You'd like, you know. So like intense, so intense, it's like a breast implant, basically. Yeah, pretty much. OK.

So like what these guys will do is they'll inject silicone into the corporeal bodies. And I saw a picture of this one dude. It looked like he he didn't even have. It didn't even look like a tube anymore. It just looked like a basketball. He just had a basketball.

He'd injected so much so he could even pee properly. He had to shove, he had to shove a sounding rod down his urethra in order to pee because there was so much pressure on his urethra from all the silicone. He just couldn't do it. Oh my God. It was, it was fetish taken just a whole next level, you know, or, or like other crazy stuff is penile bifurcation. You ever heard about that? It's really split. Right. Yeah. It's where a guy literally sits there and takes a razor blade over several months

and just splits the chambers apart. Like it looks like some flower. Why is it fold out or something like what does it do? Yeah, it like like folds out, like looks like some it almost looks like something like alien versus predator. Oh, no, thanks. Oh, no, thanks. No, thanks. Yeah.

Yeah. That's one of those like, I'm, I'm glad I know about this, but that's like brain cancer and that keeps me up at night. Did I really need to know this? Oh, yeah. So weird stuff. But anyway, so after I do these injections, I'm like, okay, I can't really keep doing this. So what are some other things that I can try? What are some other things that I can do again,

all day chemists? I start ordering in Viagra and Cialis because they were selling it like super cheap. It was like a dollar 50 for the blues and like three for the reds. I was like, shut up and take my money, you know, because you walk up to the pharmacy and they're like 20 bucks a tab. I was like, no. Yeah. Right. So, um, so I get, uh, I get Viagra and Cialis and I started experimenting with those and they're working out pretty damn well. I mean, not quite as well as the injections, but they're doing great. Uh, and then, and then it all kind of started falling apart one night. So what a lot of guys do not know about Viagra and Cialis, which personally, personally, it scares me a lot

because you've got services like HIMS and I'm not singling out HIMS or any of those like kind of email prescription bases, because I think there's a genuine need for, you know, like reasonable medication costs for, you know, easy access to certain types of drugs. I'm for that. Basically, with Viagra specifically, not Cialis,

Cialis is okay, but Viagra specifically, not Cialis. Cialis is okay, but Viagra specifically. It can cause a form, it can, N-A-O-I-N, I can't remember what that stands for, but basically you end up with a form of nerve damage in your eyes. What? So what PDE-5 inhibitors, the Viagra specifically,

what it'll cause is it will cause the pressure inside of your eyes to go down and your eyes actually need a certain level of pressure inside of them in order to oxygenate those cells, to oxygenate your nerve cells. So whenever you're taking Viagra, one of the common side effects guys talk about is blue vision.

You ever heard of blue vision? No. You basically end up with blue after images. Now at the beginning, those blue after images, they're not so bad. You barely noticed them. But that's why they're so insidious. That blue showing up is actually your body trying to tell you that your nerves aren't getting enough oxygen that the nerves in your eyes are actually dying.

Dude, so you for real, you know, you literally start to look like Avatar. Everything starts looking blue. Yeah. Like anytime you like look away from like, well, okay. So, okay. So you make a good point though. So basically like, say you're looking at something and then you look away, you end up with this like super rich,

ultra dark blue after image that makes it almost impossible. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, I know what you mean. So you look at a thing, you look away and there's still like almost like caught in frame in your eyes, the thing you were just looked at, but just like blue. Yeah, a very dark blue.

That's crazy. And it just proceeded to get worse and worse to the point to where to this day, I'm still night blind. I have a very hard time seeing at night because of it. Damn. And I found out after I stopped it and I flushed all the drugs that it was, they first started noticing it over in the United Kingdom. I do a lot of business in the United Kingdom for whatever reason. I think maybe it's something in their water. I think they need to have better water treatments. Me and a couple of guys actually traced a chemical leakage from one of the factories. So I had a bunch of customers along this one river and I was like, this is

fucking weird. Why is it all along this one river? What in the UK? Yeah. Yeah. It was in the United Kingdom. It was, it was basically a factory that was not handling their toxic waste properly and they were dumping it into the river and was ending up in the water supply and it was, it was causing some pretty bad vascular side effects. That this was like, this was like a year and a half into starting the forum that I started kind of tracking the shit. I was like, this is, this this is this is kind of fucking weird. What the hell's going on here? And me and me and some guys in that particular area of the country started tracking this shit. And we nailed it down to that. That's crazy. Yeah, like I said, I mean, I talked to guys. I talked to guys all

over the world. The craziest conversation I ever had was on the plains of Mongolia. And this this dude was like jumping up and down in his Jeep, trying to keep signal on his sat nav, like, like, hold on, wait a minute. You know, taking his phone higher up in the air. Like, like I've had some cool conversations because of this work. I've I've met so many cool kind of like you have met so many cool people, you know. So yeah, yeah. And it is one of those things. It's the same thing when people find out what you do, kind of like you, I've met so many cool people, you know? So, yeah, yeah. That's all. And it is one of those things.

It's the same thing when people find out what you do, they go, wait, what? And it's like a, it's like a charged subject. You know, people either say, oh, you think you're funny or whatever for you. It's like, Oh yeah, I don't need that. It's like, all right, bro, bust it out right now. Right. Right. Yeah.

Table homes. So, so you had, so you, you, you, when you tried all the different types, all the different things. So where did that ultimately take you? What did it all culminate in? It all, it all culminated in severe erectile dysfunction, severe erectile dysfunction. I, I was, I couldn't, I couldn't keep it up period on the story. Like I would, you know, I would have at that particular time in my life, I wished I was a two pump jump. I couldn't even keep it hard enough to be a two pump jump. You know, it was, and how old were you then?

I was like mid twenties. So I mean, I'm, I'm a decently young guy. You know, I shouldn't be having these problems. And I was like, one night, one night I was just kind of sitting at my computer And I was like, one night, one night I was just kind of sitting at my computer and I was like, you know what? I don't even want to try to get big anymore. I don't want to try to, I don't want to try to pursue this anymore. I just want to return to what I used to be. I just want to be able to get it up enough to be, you know, with a girl so I can be that two pump chump like, like, you know, I don't know how much I can cuss on. Can I cuss on

YouTube? Is that cool? You can say whatever you want. Yeah. You know, I was like, fuck all I can cuss on. Can I cuss on YouTube? Is that cool? You can say whatever you want. Yeah. You know, I was like, fuck all with this size shit. I just want to be able to actually have sex again. Yeah. So that's how I, that's how I started looking into this. I was like, instead of trying to grow the male member, let's, let's just try to

figure out how I can get it back to functional. So I started studying blood vessels very, very intensely. And I mean, I've been studying them intensely for quite a long period of time. But but it was the switch in my head from trying to make myself bigger to just making myself functional that seemed to open up all the right doors. So you took like a holistic sorry, you took like a holistic approach rather than like, you know, just like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna grow this at the expense of everything.

You took like a holistic. That's what it sounds like. Yeah, I took a holistic approach. And one of the first things I come across on this lovely, lovely, lovely website called Library Genesis. It's like the Library of Alexandria of the internet. Like any, any book you could possibly think of, it's probably on there, like hundreds of millions of texts. But you got to, you know, a VPN to get to it. But I'd come across this book while I was searching on Library Genesis. It was, it had been outdated not a print for a long ass time it was in German it's called a von der Greece something or other can't remember but basically it was it was about the guy who had discovered the Bayless effect and William Maddock Bayless I think is his full name and he was like Sir William because I think he got knighted or something like that.

Anyway, read his book on the Bayless effect and it basically talked about how smooth muscles are involuntary. So like, so whenever a smooth muscle is suddenly distended, it has these channels on the outside of its cell that will open and close based on distension. So say you've got a cell and it goes like this, it suddenly stretches, smooth muscle and suddenly stretches. You've got these ion gates on the outside of the cell that will open up and will selectively filter in like things like magnesium and calcium. And whenever that calcium comes into contact with these receptors

inside of it's like this giant electrical storm inside the cell you actually when you look at it under a microscope and something else i can't remember the name of it you see like this this aura around the cell it's like static electricity from like a blanket or some shit around the cell and that's the calcium ions like getting sucked in and then what creating stuff. Oh yeah, it's trippy as hell. And nitric oxide is involved in the process. Like you need nitric oxide to make it work. They're like, like I've mentioned on YouTube, smooth muscles are like little living engines. They're like little living engines. That's they're one of the things that keep you alive. They're just little autonomous engines that can stack and work together like Legos or something.

They're, they're amazing. It's crazy. I actually was thinking about it this morning in the shower. I'm like, the fact that I have, who knows how many cells in my body, all working harmoniously blows my mind on a pretty daily basis. It's like, dude, how are these things all working together? It's crazy. So you're saying it's.

That's nuts. So you, so the various little, like you're saying chambers or like component that are they like the building blocks of the smooth muscle, these little kind of like you're saying these little engines that kind of expand based on like some sort of electrical signal fill in with the appropriate, you know, your calcium magnesium, blah, blah, blah. Not your, I remember NO explode. I took it a couple of times working out. Okay. Yeah. Smooth muscles are basically the building blocks of the vascular system.

Well, I'd call smooth muscles more like the structural support of the vascular system. But we'll tie that in. We'll tie that in later. So got done pretty much well digging through that book using Google Translate, which by the way is horrible because you could only do like a page, like you could only do like three quarters of the page. And this is like a several hundred page book. I basically just, I pretty much will Google translated which chapters I actually wanted to

read. And then I was sitting there and like slowly begrudgingly work my way through this book, you know, and it's not translating all that great like Google Google translates great but some languages it's a little a little iffy. Yeah. Especially what I like I like to call it the dark triangle which is like Cyrillic languages, not so great. But so I dug through that book and I was like, okay, I've got a much better idea of what's going on here. Let's go on to Google Scholar and see what other stuff we can find. And that's when I started learning more about smooth muscles and endothelial cells and how those two relate.

And then I would go back to library Genesis to try and find some other manuals on that particular topic. And then I pretty much took that as far as I could. And I was like, I need to get a hold of much more up to date stuff. And basically with the money I was making from doing odd jobs and stuff like personal training, did that for a while. doing odd jobs and stuff like personal training did that for a while. I was pretty much throwing it at like research hubs like L cyber and GitHub and L cyber is the only one that's really coming to mind right now that are expensive. Those things are super expensive. Usually schools like subsidize those because they're just. Yeah. I actually, no bullshit. I actually went to college just so I can get ahold of the research manual.

That's a great sociology, but I mean, I went to college, just to get access to the free shadows. Like great. It's probably cheaper, honestly. It was, it was genuinely cheaper because like a 24 to 48 hour window, a renting, a 24 to 48 hour window of renting, I could set you back like two, 300 bucks, man. So like if you, yeah. So if you're like digging into like, you know, a pretty complicated topic and like the new up to date stuff, you're, you're, you're piggy bank might start out, you know, fat and, you know, fat and fluffy. It ain't gonna stay that way. It's gonna look like sad and deflated. That's not good. That's an absolutely beast move.

Yeah. So I went to college. I had gone pre-med initially, but some family complications had gotten in the way in that I had to drop out of the pre-med program and was at another college. And I ended up having to roll all that into a sociology degree, which at the time I was just like so upset about. But, you know, I kept with the self-study, you know, abused the research hubs that they had access to and stuff and kept the ball rolling. And that was when I started learning about a phrase that I'd never really heard before. I'd never heard before before this particular time in my life, you know, that switch I was talking about from going from trying to get myself bigger to going to how you mentioned the holistic approach.

And that was the term arteriogenesis. And that's where it all started. Like everything was kind of like a steady climb in terms of my knowledge, but the moment I learned about arteri genesis, it was just like, a rock was just a rocket. So with our tear genesis, it is, it got its start in like, the 1940s 1950s. And before that, they had like really tenuous amounts of knowledge, like kind of kind of scant knowledge about it with like deer antlers. So what some of

these like burgeoning researchers and scientists would do is they would they would they pretty much will butcher the heads of these deer, these deer that were still alive. They'd like sitting there and go inside their skull and stuff and like cut off like certain blood vessels and stuff to see if it would affect how their antlers would grow. Yeah. And they'd find like one antler would grow

a little bit more than the other. And they're like, oh, okay. So like cutting this blood vessel actually causes something. And then they'd come back to that deer a year later, whenever the antlers had fallen off or something like that the other and they're like, Oh, okay. So like cutting this blood vessel actually causes something, you know, and then they'd come back to that deer, you know, a year later, whenever the antlers had fallen off or something like that and look at again, oh, hey, those blood vessels have grown back, or, you know, or it's like the these these antlers are growing at the same rate again. And that was like 1800s, you know, so it

really got to start, you know, 1940s 1950s. And then by the 1960s, they were gaining a lot of traction. They it was a they were looking for alternative means of therapy for people that were having heart disease, you know, how they how they could get these, you know, these working class people back up to snuff back up to speed without having to send them to these expensive clinics, or having to prescribe the medication, which back then had all kinds of egregious side effects.

They needed something better. So they pretty much just started putting people on treadmills, like getting, working, doing aerobic exercise and stuff like that. And what they were discovering was, was that aerobic exercise was effectively causing blood vessels to grow. And by this point in time,

they really didn't know about it. They had some ideas about it, but they didn't really know it. 1940s, 1950s, this is a totally new concept that aerobic exercise caused blood vessels to grow. And there was a schism. There was this great, great schism that happened in the medical industry around this time around this particular topic some researchers were saying, you know, it's it's Hypoxia it's the lack of oxygen tissues that are causing these blood vessels to grow and then a Much and it and it was it was a much smaller voice a much smaller grouping of researchers. It was like well, hold on What if it's not hypoxia? What if it's actually what if it's actually blood flow itself? It's causing blood vessels to grow what if it what if it's what if it's the change in the rate of blood flow and

Their hypothesis was that it wasn't hypoxia. It was actually the friction of blood against the vascular walls that was causing this. Oh, Jesus. All right. But that's yeah, it was making like new capillaries and all that stuff. It was just expanding arteries. It was doing both. So it was making it was making the existing vascular system larger and was making the walls thicker, but it was also causing capillary beds to form new capillary beds. It was causing tissue growth. It was causing actual tissue growth, and they were so divided on what was causing that. it's modern times, it's like, you know, 2000, you know, 2010 plus, you know, several, several

decades later, you know, I'm coming into the scene learning about this. And I get to see the this historical, you know, process play out. Even now, even now going on to like, you know, research hubs, you're going to see more stuff about hypoxia causing vascular growth than you will shear stress, which is what that was, that blood friction, that the speed, the rate of blood flow through a channel causes irritation and causes friction against that vascular wall. That's what's known as shear stress. And that's hypoxia. That's hypoxia you're saying?

So the friction of blood flow against the vascular wall, that's called sheer stress. OK. And whenever you're like exercising super duper hard and you like run out of steam, you know, it's like no matter how much you want to go, it's like you just can't you can't lift that weight again. You can't run and, you know, walk another step. You're like just dead tired. That would be an example of hypoxia. Got you. And blood vessels can example of hypoxia. Gotcha.

And blood vessels can grow from hypoxia, which is kind of how that schism happened, because they knew, they already had research on the topic that hypoxia could cause vascular growth. The problem is that it's a panic reaction. It's more of a panic reaction than it is a go- to for vascular growth. Whenever oxygen content in a particular area of the body starts to drop, the half-lives of certain growth factors

goes up because they're reacting to oxygen, which makes their half-life go down. When you have a low oxygen environment, the half-lives of these growth factors extends quite a bit. Like a great example would be like VEGF. If you're exposing VEGF to oxygen, an oxygen-rich environment, healthy tissues, it's got a half-life of like two to three hours, but in a low oxygen environment, it's like eight plus hours.

So they, they were not wrong in their assumptions. They were not the research they were doing around that time wasn't wrong, but it just wasn't the body's main go to causing bad growth. It wasn't the best way to like functionally. It's like, well, if you're like red lining your body for art to art, to grow your arteries and stuff, it's probably not the best move. Right, right. It's not the best move. It's not the body's main go to sheer stress was but so anyway, with arteriogenesis, this this idea of blood friction causing vascular growth, you know, what is what is involved in that and I'll go ahead and I'll go ahead and break down arteriogenesis as much as I can

and then we're going to use that as a stepping stone for kind of what I'm doing now today. So whenever you have someone engaging in an aerobic exercise, you've got blood that is moving through the vascular channels faster than normal. Now the first reaction to your body, to this blood friction, to the sheer stress is an increase in nitric oxide from your endothelial cells. Your endothelial cells have these little hairs. It's almost like grass. Like you ever seen like a wide open field and you saw a breeze roll through

and you watched the grass like blow and wave? Endothelial cells have the exact same thing. The endothelial cells line your blood vessels and off of those endothelial cells are like these, it's like grass almost. It sees little hairy protrusions and whenever they get tilted so much by blood flow going through a channel at a certain rate, it causes an activation of these internal mechanisms inside the endothelial cells that causes them to release nitric oxide and the vascular channel widens. And a lot of guys know this is like getting the vasopump, getting the muscle pump. I was like, raw, check out my pump right now. Most guys know it is that. The other is, say with aerobic exercise, I'm sure you've done some treadmill work and you're like, you're looking down and your veins are really

sticking out. You know, you're like, man, I feel like, like, I got like a roadmap going on. This feels great. Right. So that would be an example of nitric oxide release. But now say, say you up the rate, you up the rate of blood flow even more, past a point to where the nitric oxide release isn't enough to really pull back the shear stress on that arterial wall. And we're going to start in arteries first here. So let's say the blood passing through that arterial channel, you've already released nitric oxide, you've already widened it, but the level of sheer stress on those endothelial cells, it's still too great. What does the body do then? The endothelial cells then begin to release

a growth factor called vascular endothelial growth factor, specifically vascular endothelial growth factor subtype BB. Whenever VEGF gets released, it releases from the endothelial cells and it kind of becomes like this cloud in the vascular channel and it causes an increase in dilation both ascending and descending. It causes like this domino ripple effect. And you get that from basically prolonged aerobic exercise. Like you get the nitric oxide release, say in a general workout, within the first five to ten minutes. But say you continue that aerobic exercise for another 30 to 45 minutes, you know, you cap out in like a 45 minute session within the first five to 10 minutes, nitric oxide has already done its work. Now your body's beginning to release VEGF to cause not just a greater level of vasodilation,

but to also begin to supercompensate just like in bodybuilding, you know, how like, if you max out your muscles and you're kind of like breaking them down a little bit, your body's basically setting the stage for super compensation for your blood vessels to grow. So that way, if it ever comes across that level of sheer stress again, the blood vessels are wider, they're thicker, they can work so much better. So that way you can engage in that level of aerobic exercise again. Think about it, you know, think about how humanity would have made it this far if we couldn't, you know, outrun the things that were trying to eat us like lions and tigers and shit like that. Imagine if you know, like, those little well blues way back in the jungle is like, oh, you know, you're fucked, you're just dead. So your body has to have some way to, to superate, some way to adapt to that kind of a stimulus, that kind of a potentially life-threatening situation. So it releases VEGF subtype BB, and it's in its name, vascular endothelial growth factor.

What it will cause is it will cause your endothelial cells to begin to proliferate to increase in number. And what they'll start to do is as they start increasing in number, they start to burrow out into the vascular walls. They start to form these little transient micro channels. Really trippy. Yeah, it's like these, it's like these little fingers that'll kind of grow out into the extra cellular matrix. It's almost like if you looked at your blood vessel. So blood vessels themselves are kind of like a mesh.

They're not really a uniform tube. They're more like a mesh. And the endothelial cells will grow through these mesh to form like little hairs that stick out in the extracellular matrix. And they'll begin releasing that VEGF further into those little micro channels. And that process, say, okay, so tying in bodybuilding, tying in experience, right? Bringing it to the forefront here. So most people are going to recommend you know, you're exercising like say you go to the gym, you do a workout, you're going to take like anywhere between one to two days rest before you work those muscles again, well, it's kind of like aerobic exercise a little bit, but that's something

you have to do all the time. So let's say you run super hard in that treadmill, you you know, treadmill, you kind of push yourself pretty good for those 30 to 45 minutes. Well, I mean, what do you gotta do? You gotta walk out to your car, you gotta walk at work, you gotta walk here, walk there, you gotta walk around the store to go get groceries. You keep your blood flow up,

but you lower the level that you're doing it at. You're not trying to like, you know, punch at the ceiling. You're just trying to maintain, you know, a steady rate here. So you've got your intense workout and then you've got steady state throughout the day. When you combine those two, you're basically helping to maintain those transient channels. That's why I call them trans. Oh, okay. That makes sense.

Right. So these endothelial cells will sell out these little hairy fingers into the ECM, the extracellular matrix, during these intense bouts of exercise. And then your steady state aerobic exercise throughout the day, basically, you know, work, you know, doing your job, you know, walking through the store, stuff like that. And then just to stop, this is what I don't know if you ever did in an orange theory. This is their whole thing. It's like you work out your heart rates on a board with all the other people and that you get splat points every time you're in, I think 80, 85% of your cardiac output, if you're in that zone from 85 to 100, 85 is

like orange, if you get to 90, it becomes red. But if you do that for 13 minutes of the hour long workout, they say you get they just call it like an afterburn effect where like you're, you burn hundreds of more calories just because you hit that sustained output for 30. And it sounds like what you're talking about, you get your body to like a red line state, and through your like more steady state activities throughout the day your body's like you were saying just trying to maintain all these little connections you've

made pretty cool right yeah your your your metabolic rate goes up because your body after that intense workout it's trying to super compensate it's trying to adapt to what you've done to it so of course your metabolic rate is going to go up and all's trying to adapt to what you've done to it. So of course your metabolic rate is going to go up and all of this is going to tie in together really, really beautifully. So after you've made these little hairs, these little feelers, that's not the end of the process. There's an additional step where shit just gets absolutely crazy. So once you've got these feelers in place, you go to do your next workout after you've done your steady state, you know, just do it, you

know, just live in your life. When you go to do the the subsequent exercise, you know, a day, two days later, and you re expose your vascular channels and these little feelers to additional sheer stress, they start releasing a different growth factor. They release what's known as platelet-derived growth factor, PDGF. Now, PDGF is pivotal because it is not a growth factor for endothelial cells. It's a growth factor for smooth muscle cells. Whoa. And what it will do is it will release PDGF out into these little feelers. And smooth

muscles, they're like little living engines, but in this particular case, they're also kind of like bloodhounds sniffing out a blood trail. They're like, I smell growth factor, I smell the thing that's going to make me bigger, I smell my next meal. And so these smooth muscles will start kind of wiggling around, and they'll start breaking down their, their, their structural support. So remember how I was saying that smooth muscles are kind of like the structure of a blood vessel. So what smooth muscles will do is once they've kind of like the structure of a blood vessel. So what smooth muscles will do is once they've kind of gotten themselves cemented into a structure, once they've got themselves in place, they'll begin releasing collagen, they'll start making these collagenous sheaths around themselves to hold them in

place, but also to give the structure that they're in more integrity. Well, whenever they start to sense this PDGF, they start to break down that college in themselves. And then they begin to migrate. They begin to migrate from the outer walls of the vascular system towards the channel towards the internal channel. Damn, so that's like more of those deeper structures you're talking about that these other techniques don't really affect. Well, like I said, we're getting into that. We'll get into that. So, so, uh, you get, what were you talking about? Huh? So what did you mean by that? My, where are they

migrating towards? Okay. So, so say you've got a tube, right? Uh, endothelial cells are existing inside the tube, and then smooth muscles are existing in the wall of the tube. So what the smooth muscles will do is they'll start more migrating from the walls of that tube more towards the inside. And they'll get they'll get like right up under these these smooth muscles that migrate, they'll get like right right next to those endothelial cells. And these endothelial cells that migrate, they'll get like right next to those endothelial cells. And these endothelial cells that are, you know,

in the main bulk of the channel, they're just pushing out PDGF and just like waves, just big, big clouds. And these smooth muscles are just bathing in this growth factor and they're proliferating, they're increasing in number, they're growing because they're being bathed in these growth factors by endothelial cells. And something that we know from studying like the cardiovascular system, like people that

say they have heart disease, they have this thing called, what's that called? Camp internal internal inward remodeling so in arteriogenesis you have outward remodeling in heart disease you have inward remodeling What basically happens is in the case of heart diseases? You have these smooth muscles migrating inward and it's causing the channel to temporarily narrow. It's forming what's known as a neo-intimal layer of smooth muscles just underneath this layer of endothelial cells because the process

of arteriogenesis gets halted because you don't have someone that's engaging in steady state. They're living a sedentary life or they're not engaging regularly enough in aerobic exercise. So they get MRI modeling because the arteriogenic process is being halted. But let's say it's not halted. Let's say you've got somebody that's actually engaging in steady state. You've got somebody engaging in regular aerobic exercise.

Once these smooth muscles start to proliferate, they start to form that neo-intimal layer. Yes, the channel will temporarily narrow, but that's when the true magic starts to happen when you have somebody who has a healthy lifestyle. Those channels, remember those feelers I was telling you about, those hairs that poke into the ECM? What they start to do is the endothelial cells

on the internal part of the channel, they'll begin to ramp down how much PDGF they produce. And then the the little feelers out here will ramp up how much PDGF they're producing to cause these increased amount of smooth muscles to migrate back out into the walls. And then you end up with a channel that begins to widen, but the walls are also thicker. And because you've also maintained those feelers, you have increased capillary bed density as well.

You have actual factual structural growth here. You have verifiable growth. You have growth you can actually see. When you like look down a microscope, you can see this channel's bigger. You can see the capillary bed density has gone up. So I was like, coming from the guy who was erectile dysfunction, I was like, holy fucking shit, how can I apply this? Holy shit, how can I take advantage of this arteriogenesis? And I hit a wall.

I hit a big ass wall because there's not many books written about the vascular system of the male member. There's just not. Why? So I had to do, there's a lot on like the cosmetic end of things, like, you know, say like soldiers that have had like an IED and they have to put like their junk back together. There's a lot of surgery manuals, but there's not too many vascular models. But I did eventually find some of the knowledge I needed studying surgical manuals and then even more kind of studying the philosophy of sex itself.

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all of them actually. So come on up. Bye. I kind of I kind of became a philosopher. I'd like for you to elaborate on that. Also also Is this still while you're in school for sociology? Yeah, I'm doing all this fucking that's so wild, dude And you said yes keep all this stuff to yourself or you like we talked to people about this stuff or like how did you I? Try I try to talk to guys about it, but it's kind of like you were saying you're like, you know I don't have that problem. You know, it was like, I'll see you later. You know, it was one of those.

For sure. And, uh, you know, I kind of got encouraged by that along the ways, you know? Yeah. I mean, yeah, you know, up, up close in person, like the big groups, you know, the guys would push back at me, but it would always be at the tail end of the night, you know, say I was at a party. I'd end up chilling with the boys and they'd be, they'd just ask me about it. You know, like, just tell me more about this. You know, like, tell me more about this.

You know, you know, they want to kind of like relax down, you know, it's like, man, I got to hear more about this, you know, and yeah. And then he encouraged me along the way. And I took advantage of course, you know, things that we have available to us, which is, you know, this anonymous porn hub, you know, as any guy will tell you, you know, like you're gonna, you're gonna spend so many hours of your life on porn hub. It's just gonna happen. But instead of me being the guy, you know, you know, holding my junk in my hand, doing one of these, I'm sitting there with like a pad and paper, you know, like watch like, okay, so what's this going? What's this doing? And I started watching videos specifically of like,

I tried to get to the heart of the philosophy of sex and the male member by studying instances where procreation was most likely to happen, How adaptations can be passed on over time. How a structure could form over the centuries, the millennia, based on who is actually getting a chance to procreate. And so I started studying females. Females are basically the ones that are helping guys propagate themselves, making the next generation of males. So I started studying female sexuality, how females move during a sexual encounter when they are pursuing orgasm. And so I just started watching videos of cowgirl, girl on top type motion type videos. And yeah, I'm not sitting there with my dick in my hands. I'm sitting

there with a notepad and paper in my hands. Like, okay, so what's going on here? This is the most impressive part of this, by the way, the fact that you're able to do that. I mean, don't get me wrong. I mean, it was like so tempted to just sit there and you'll beat without really fast. I was like, no, no, no, I gotta stay on top of this. Unbelievable. And then so you were studying, you wanted to see, and why did you study that specifically? I wanted to study it because there was, there was something inside of me. There was this little voice telling me that that was where the answer lied.

That was where the answer to my problems lied. So I started, I started looking at how females moved in these positions where they're the sexual aggressor when they wanted to go towards orgasm because without getting too deep into the thicket here, whenever females orgasm, there's a greater, a much greater likelihood of procreation actually happening, of the semen actually making it to where it needs to go, get to the egg, baby happens. So I was like, how are these females moving? And it was like this undulation, the way that they would move whenever they were pursuing orgasm, it was the way that they would tilt their hips coming down, going up. They would tilt back whenever they were squatting down on the guy and then they would tilt

towards the guy like towards his head whenever they were rising up and I was like What the fuck is that? What are you doing? What kind of like primordial dance? Are you doing right now that it's like I know the answer is there what the fuck is that and So I was I was like, I gotta dig into these research manuals more. I gotta figure out what the fuck's going on here. So I started looking at pelvic anatomy, at the blood vessels in a male's pelvis.

And what I figured out was that the male member was supplied off the aortic forks that go down into your legs. So you've got the main aortic trunk, right? And then you've got these forks that go down into your legs. So you've got the main aortic trunk, right? And then you've got these forks that go down into your legs. Well, in the pelvis, you've got these other ones that are called the iliac arteries. They're like these little offshoots. Well, actually, they're pretty large offshoots that feed, you know, the tissue masses in your pelvic girdle. And then off of the iliacs, you've got the internal iliacs. Now the internal iliacs,

that's where the story gets interesting because the internal iliacs are the ones that feed the male member and it's got three branches that come off of it, three of them. And you've got an internal iliac on each fork so they're a mirror of each other. So you've got three forks on either side of this iliac. You've got the, you've got the bulbal urethral artery which feeds your corpora spongiosum. You've got the deep cavernous artery that feeds the main cavernosum. And then you've got the third one

which is the deep dorsal artery. And as you use the methodology to have come up with, got the third one, which is the deep dorsal artery. And you and as you as you use the methodology to come up with, you can actually see that deep dorsal artery gets so fat, it's like ropes on the side of your dick, man. It's just fucking cool. It's like, it's, it's, it's like ropes. And you can actually use that to track deeper internal growth of the vascular structures. But again, we've got to get into the whole hemodynamic thing here. Like I said, I'm, I'm going to give you as much details and

stuff you want to work with. So, um, so I got looking at like, what is, what are, so we've got females that are engaging in like this primordial dance whenever they're pursuing orgasm. And I know that orgasm, whenever that happens, you've got a much higher chance of procreation. So females have been causing male structures, male sexual structures to adapt to this dance over time in order to work.

Because like, say that girl, you know, that woman, she's sitting there doing her dance, doing her thing and your dick's going soft. You know, make babies, you know, make babies, you know, procreate, you know, have kids, you know, like the guy, the guys that have these structures in place that kind of match up with this dance, those genes are being passed on, they're being adapted, they're growing, they're improving in their efficiency. So I knew that somewhere in my genetics right now, through you know, however many centuries or millennia of evolution have adapted to this dance. So I was like, so the female is pulling her pelvis towards me, like say, you know, you've got a girl riding on top, her pelvis is pulling towards me. It's, it's her vaginal wall is dragging on that spongy

ocean. Now where's that blood going? It's getting pushed up into the glands. Now where the fuck is it going from there? Where is it going? It's going out your deep dorsal vein that rides along the very middle of your middle of your cavernousal chambers. So you've got like the chambers are kind of oval shaped and then in this groove between the two chambers you've got the deep dorsal vein. So it's going through the spongiosum into the glands and it's exiting through the deep dorsal vein. And I was like, all right I'm close. I know I'm close to the deep dorsal vein. And I was like, all right, I'm close. I know I'm close to the answer here.

So I was like, how can I mimic these motions? How can I mimic this primordial dance I'm seeing women engage in? And I just tried to come up with different hand exercises and most of them were failing until I started coming up with what I've got on my subreddit now, which are the Angion methods. The first thing I started doing is I started coming up with what I've got on my subreddit now, which are the Angion methods.

The first thing I started doing is I started rubbing the deep dorsal vein. I started trying to pull blood through that vascular circuit, what I refer to as the bulbodorsal circuit. Bulborethral arteries feeding up through the spongiosum. Bulb dorsal circle. That didn't work out so well. Stimulating just the veins, what I found out is they would collapse. Because of how they're designed, once you try to pull blood through them, they'll just

kind of collapse on you. It didn't work out so well. So I was like, well, what about if I try pushing blood up into my glands and then squeezing it and then firing it down the deep dorsal vein? That worked a little bit better. It worked a little bit better, but I still wasn't quite encapsulating it. And then one night I was like, why don't you just sit here and take my fingers and I'll make like this undulating circular motion and I'll just continually push blood up into

my glands and out that dorsal vein just to stimulate the circuit I've discovered. And that was when the magic started happening. That was so I'd started to see a little bit of potency. So I was getting like, I was getting, I was getting encouraged because I knew I was on the right path, but I could tell it was so inefficient. But once I had started rolling my fingers up the spongiosum to push blood up into my glands. That's when my erectile potency just started going and going and going and going. And then spongiosum, sorry, let me stop you right there so everyone knows. That's the bottom part. That's like the... That's the soft squishy part that's around your urethra. Okay. But if you're like, if this is coming off your body, this would be the spongiosum part and

this would be like the top that's like you're looking down at. And this is like the underbelly basically. Okay. Yeah. I knew as soon as it's spongy, awesome. I'm like, I know exactly what I could just tell. I knew instinctually what that was. So that you're saying that on gulating circular movement sends it up through the glands, the tip, then back down to the side veins.

And then where does it go from there again? It basically goes back into your heart. It goes out in the picture. Oh, so just those three things, the bottom part glands straight down through the side dorsal veins. Yeah, you're basically you're just you're just stimulating a small portion of your vascular system or basically causing blood flow to speed up in one particular area of branches within the vascular system and your body's just kind of

absorbing that doing its own thing. You're basically doing targeted cardio, just targeted cardio. That's really all you're doing here. But say if you have somebody engaging in aerobic exercise, living their best life, you have to remember that if you're exposing your entire body to higher levels of sheer stress, and it's releasing clouds of these growth factors into the vascular system itself, you can actually you can you can basically you can cause the process to just explode, you can you can ramp up the efficiency of these exercises so much more. You could think of the Angion Methods as a polisher to a good aerobic exercise. Got you. All you're doing is you're basically taking advantage of all the growth factors that get

made throughout your body, throughout your vascular system, through general aerobic exercise, and then you're targeting it. Because whenever you cause that sheer stress, whenever you cause sheer stress through a vascular channel, you're increasing the receptor counts in that given area. You're allowing more growth factors to attach to these receptors that have formed, and you're able to speed up the process of the vascular growth within a small portion of the vascular tree. So I started experimenting with what I call the Vassion, NGN method 3.0, and my potency just went through the roof,

like super physiological woodies waking up with morning wood every single day, I'm chubbed as hell. And you were mentioning earlier on how like proper hydration, you know, a calm state, and then you wrap it, then that would be an example of a healthy lifestyle.

You know, you're keeping your stress levels low, you're staying hydrated, that's a healthy lifestyle. The NGM methods are just an addition to that healthy lifestyle, you know, you're keeping your stress levels low, you're staying hydrated. That's a healthy lifestyle. The NGM methods are just in addition to that healthy lifestyle. They're a way to make that a little bit a little bit more productive for you. So I am not just waking up with these great morning woods. I'm staying like heavily chubbed throughout the day. Like like, you know, it looks like looks like some fucking little like arm holding goddamn Apple, man. I'm just I'm fucking chubbed. I'm feeling great. I'm fire.

Like, I mean, how happy were you when you figure this? This must have been crazy. Oh, my God, I was I was I was past the moon happy. I wanted to shout this from the rooftops, which I tried to do on our on YouTube. First, I had the YouTube channel there, and then I was like, I gotta get this out. I've got to get, I've got to let guys know that, you know, you don't gotta take an injection. You don't gotta take a pill

in order to get your potency back. And so I started seeing a return. I started seeing a return to the potency that I had lost from all of these, you know, terrible PE exercises that I engaged in over time, all these different experiments I put myself through. I was like, Oh my God, thank God.

I finally have my manhood back. I can finally be that two pump jump if I want to. That's amazing. You went that deep into it. Literally. I mean, it's like you lost it, dude. And then you somehow resuscitated it back bigger, better than ever. I mean, bro, what a few could do that. That's amazing.

One of my subscribers calls me the wounded healer. Exactly. I had to get wounded first to figure out how to heal other people. You know, it's the hero's journey. You got the heroes. I was literally just talking about this today. You got the hero's wounds and it literally gave you the knowledge to give to the world, which is crazy, dude. So where are you at now with this? How, what do you do? Do you have like a device? Like what do you, how do you, what do you do? And did you patent this thing by the way? Like what do you, uh,

It's kind of hard to patent it because it's considered to be just a generic peristaltic pump, but I've got that big ass thing, got like a mill there, got lathes behind me over here. Like I've got basically a whole, you know, machine shop for like working plastic and stuff. So you're asking me like, what did I do with that? I actually got talking about some of the stuff with a good buddy of mine, someone who knew about my journey and whatnot. And it was kind of going through similar struggles. And he was like, why don't you look up peristaltic pumps, man?

Why don't you look up how those work? And it was like the very first time I'd ever seen like a jiff of a peristaltic pump. It was that same fucking motion. It was the same shit I was doing with my fingers, but they were using rollers instead of fingers. I was the same shit I was doing with my fingers, but they were using rollers instead of fingers I was like I was like, oh my god. I've got to make this thing. I've got to make this I have to make this But at this point time in my life, I was a researcher

I wasn't craftsman a fucking sucked at this shit man The first the first the first angio wheel i ever made it was like this like like it was just shitty as hell man like the the cast wheels are all wonky the the pieces of wood i was using were all like bowed and fucked up and shit but i got to use it and i got to see what it could be because when i started experimenting with this rough as it was, poorly crafted as it was, I started seeing my potency go up even more and even more and even more. And I was like, I didn't know what to do with it. I just, I, as an, I wasn't in an entrepreneurial mindset.

I was still in a researcher mindset. And then this dude, this guy, I will, David, if you're watching this, I am forever going to be thankful for you. If you happen to watch this, I'm thankful for you. This, this economist up in Maine, who had, you know, quite a bit of money, just kind of sitting around looking for something to do with it. He was like, he reached out to me through one of the forums I was a part of at the time. And he was like, I will pay you to make this for me. And I hesitated. I was like, I'm not I'm not that good of a craftsman, man.

I just made this thing. I don't I have no experience making things like I don't care. I want you to make this for me. You give me a figure north of like one hundred and fifty. I'll pay it right on the spot. Just like that. I was like, I kind of sat on it for a while. I was like, I, you know, I wasn't ever planning on making money on this. I was really big into trying to give it away to the world. I was really big on trying, you know, trying to give this

answer because I know so many guys out there struggle with erectile dysfunction. I know the side effects of the drugs. I know the dangers. I know the hazards. So I wanted to give guys an alternative, a holistic alternative. So there was this part inside of me that was wrestling with trying to monetize on this. I just didn't want to do it. And he was like, just do it, make me something. So I made him the second Angio wheel I'd ever made and I mailed it to him. And he even asked me to sign it and autograph it and stuff like this. So I did. Awesome. And and life kind of happened around that particular point in

time, my mom, my mom got really sick around the same time. She got really, really sick. And we were having, we were having a really hard time paying medical bills and paying for like gas bills and stuff just getting her back and forth in the hospital and I had no other real options I graduated college I had a bachelor's degree in sociology the job market though is saturated I had I had bunches of job interviews lined up they were were all falling through us. Like I got to figure out some way to make money now in order to get her through this rough time in her

life. And so I started an Etsy and I told the fan base I'd already built up on YouTube and Reddit about, you know, hey, I'm going to start selling this device. And they just took off like wildfire. The very first sale I ever ran and made $8,300. Awesome. Yeah, just like right there on the spot. And I took the lion's share of that and I used it for my mom's medical bills and to get her to and from her doctor's appointments. But what I had left over, I started investing into machinery, into a proper shop.

And as the money just kept rolling in, I just kept trying to invest more and more into it. And you kind of mentioned Trump, you know, like stuff that happened. I actually made a posting on my subreddit about that not too long ago. I got my start under the Trump administration because of his business policies, because of how strong of a hand he put on the economy in general. Food prices went down, gas prices went down, business was booming, especially international trade. International trade was booming. What I discovered was I had an enormous fan base in Europe, specifically United Kingdom, Germany, France, Denmark, Sweden, stuff, you know, places like that. And so

a lot of the sales I was seeing were coming from overseas. That was a big bulk of the money I'd initially made. So I just kind of doubled down and I, uh, I'd never really done anything international before. So I had to, I did do a lot of learning with that, but I started selling more and more and I started getting better and better at making sales. Funny fact on that one, just real quick, just a quick little blurb. I do a lot of goddamn business with California. I do a lot of business with the porn industry. Oh my God. I do a lot of business. I have not shaken the hand of porn stars, but I have sent more than a few devices to screeners. I've done that. No bullshit. That's crazy.

Yeah. I've had some porn stars reach out and be like, bro, you're my man. I was like, all right. Because they're doing the drugs too. They don't want to sit there and be like, bro, you my man. I was like, all right. Because they're doing they're doing the drugs, too. You know, they want to sit there and inject shit in their dicks so they could do that scene. You know, they just want to like go in there like a champion. All right, man, I pumped this out. You know, I got this. Yeah, that's amazing. I think a lot of business with the porn industry out in California.

That was that was the main thing. Like it was international international international sales, California. That was like the bulk of my sales, California. And then the, then the rest of the States, you know, started kind of coming in as, as my research, you know, got off the ground, as people started word of mouth, you know, talking about me and stuff. And, uh, I had gotten, I just gotten better at better. Uh, I started out making devices out of wood and wood's a great medium, wood's cheap, but wood warps, wood is prone to cracking,

wood is prone to all kinds of structural issues. So I was like, how can I do it better? And so I started doing plastic and sorry, I kind of got my baby girl's crib right there because we're storing this, we're kind of remodeling upstairs's crib right there because we're restoring this. We're kind of remodeling upstairs. Yep. Can you see that big ass white thing in the corner there? Yeah, what is that? That is half of a 500 pound slab of plastic.

What? Yeah, an eight foot by four foot slab of plastic. I will buy plastic like rod stock and plate in big ass bulk numbers. And so that way I can offer guys a reasonable rate. Cause like, I mean, yeah, I'm a businessman and yes, I need to make money at the end of the day. Cause I also got a family I've got, I've got two kids and my wife probably doesn't want me to say this, but I got a third one on the way.

Yeah. Damn dude. Congrats. That's awesome. Thank you. That's amazing, bro. That's awesome. Yes.

I mean, I have to make money, but I also want to make sure that I don't price out the average Joe's people, the working man who wants to come home after a long day's work and be able to make love to his wife. You know, I don't want to price them out. So what I'll do is I'll buy as much in quantity as I possibly can so I can keep my prices low. If I were to try to make, so right now I sell an Enjoo wheel for $254.99, which I know that's still up there, but I'm not able to buy as much of in bulk to get that price lower.

I'm working on that. But say if I were to try to buy slab on demand, you know, to try to like, uh, to get angio wheels up the door faster. I don't, I'd almost double the price. I price out the average Joe. So, so what I'll do is I'll do a lead time of anywhere between six to eight weeks. Like say if a customer places an order, it's going to be mailed to them about six to eight weeks later because what I'll do is I'll get a run on orders to pay for the materials.

So that way we can lower the prices for everybody across the board. I try to make it as in reach of the common man as I possibly can. So now here comes the curve ball. So here comes the curve ball. So explaining all this stuff. And looking over the questions that you sent towards me. So I'm gaining my potency back. I'm coming back to where I was as a man. I'm starting to feel confident in myself,

but something else is happening too, which I did not expect, you know, because by this point in time in my life, I'd given up trying to get a bigger member. You know, I'd given up. I'd given up that pursuit, but I'm waking up and I'm like, damn, I'm looking in the mirror and I'm going like, damn. And I'm kind of like reaching out and feeling I was like, man, it must be in my head that feels an awful lot thicker than it did a little while ago. But I ignored it. I pushed it back. I was like, no, no way. No way. But man, you know, after a while, after I started kind of feeling it was getting

all like fat and chubby, I was like, man, I got, I got to start taking like a tape measure to this shit in the ruler. And I'm like, Holy fucking shit. But my dick is literally getting bigger right now. Holy fucking shit. Oh my God. So, so finding the holistic approach, finding out how to heal myself, I inadvertently figured out how to cause penile growth, I inadvertently figured out how to cause what I call phallogenesis.

Phallogenesis is basically arteriogenesis that's happening within the corporeal bodies, that's happening in the male member itself. It's it's just it's it's just targeted arteriogenesis without without intending to do that. I I had inadvertently discovered how to grow the male member. That was never my pursuit, but that is precisely what happened. That's crazy, dude. And it all it makes sense at all. I mean, it makes sense on a level that's like, you know, you're talking about into like evolutionary history, the leaving the male body,

studying the female body, the motion they're making, you know, it all it all makes sense that there'd be a biological payoff for, you know, a woman to get orgasm, because therefore they can have a kid. And there's like this corresponding changes. If you do cardio, there's a corresponding change. If a woman's constantly, you know, looking at her little self on you and do that's like kind of hearsay. I've talked to a lot of guys who are like,

when you're having sex a lot, it just gets bigger. I've heard that before and I think that's true. And I don't know if it's in your head, you're like, you know, this is happening all the time. I'm just so you think you're the king of the world anyway. But it's like it's true. I've talked to people about that before. I'm like, dude,

there is something to be said for that. Right. And it does it like even, even this far along, there's still stuff that just blows my mind. Like I try to stay, I try to stay humble with it as possible because I know where I came from. I came from a guy that wishes he could have been the two pump jump. And you know, now I'm now I'm hung, you know, it's crazy. You know, I'm not bragging.

It just is what it is. This is the humble bragging, you know, I'm like, I'm hitting that back wall now. Like me and that back wall. We're tight. That's crazy. And see, at first, I was kind of leery to say this, because I was like, I feel like if I say this, I'm going to detract from like the holistic approach, I'm going to get guys are going to

be like, Oh, you know, let's go, you know, they're gonna, they're gonna go at it with the wrong spirit, they're gonna go at it kind of like, kind of like you see in gyms, to where instead of pursuing it as like, you know, to gain strength and you know, to, to say, do your job better. So you're like a manual laborer and, you know, you, you want to be able to lift like those bags of concrete or soil or, you know, or like just various products for like shelving stuff, you know, like, like, like your average stocker at Walmart, you know, instead of going out from that mindset, you get guys to be

like, I'm just trying to get swole as fuck, you know? So I was a little weary about that, but then I started getting, you know, from the sales I'm making from these angiowheels, I'm trying to stay in contact with my customers over time. I'm trying to build a rapport with my customers. I'm trying to build a long-term relationship with them. So I'm leaving the door open and be like, Hey, you know, if you notice something, let

me know if there's something about the device you don't like, tell me about it. Maybe I can sit there and I can improve upon that. You know, I'm trying to leave, I'm trying to leave the communication channels open and I'm getting these guys that are coming back to me and saying like, dude, I'm bigger. Like I'm for real bigger. I'm sitting there and I'm checking. I'm getting bigger.

And after enough guys came back to me about this, I was like, I don't advertise the angio wheel as having that effect like on places like Etsy or something or Excel. Sure. Places like YouTube, places like my subreddit, I let guys know. So coming back to that questionnaire you sent over, I have not figured out a way to parse what kind of growth happens. Whether you're growing in girth, you're growing in length.

I haven't figured out how to parse those two. The best answer I can give is that the growth appears to occur based on a male's genetics. If they're more predisposed to gaining girth, they're going to gain girth. If they're more predisposed to gaining length, they're going to gain length. Now, what I can tell you about the process is that growth typically shows at first then length. Now, like again, like I was saying with genetics, that ratio is going to change a little bit based on genetics. But but on the whole, girth is going to go up first, then length and it's got to be because of how the vascular

tree is growing how it's so whenever this arteriogenesis is happening, whenever smooth muscles are doing that migration, I was telling you about it's breaking down collagen, it's breaking down fascia. Fascia is made of collagen. So, you know, it's causing a remodeling. So I had mentioned this on Patreon a while back. So like, what you'll notice as you get into NGO training is that you just get back

like before you actually start to get longer, like you just get fat, man. It feels like you're holding on to like a chode or something. And actually, you know, actually for short and a little bit, which will kind of fuck with you like like your member will actually get a little bit shorter. But holy fuck, does it get fatter, man? You're just like, Oh, he was going to sit there and shake that shit in front of a mirror. And it'll get really, it'll get like really squatty and fat, you know,

but like super chub. Like, you know, it's shorter, but damn is it look impressive when you're standing in front of a mirror. Like, Oh, all right. And then as that remodeling process starts to finish up, you'll start to notice that length comes back again. And when you start checking that, that ruler, you're actually going to find out that you've actually gone up a little bit, you've actually gone up a ticker to after that remodeling process has started to finish and then it'll

restart and it kind of goes to these cycles. Sorry. That dip I put in is really ripping. You'll get really squatty, but really heavily chubbed. And then as the modeling process starts to wrap up, you'll start to kind of, you'll stay a little bit thicker. Okay, like I said, you're going to gain that girth, but then you'll start to notice a length increase.

And I have spent the past four years, well, I'd say honest to God, three years trying to parse that out. And so I started with the Angio methods and Angio Wheel, kind of what we've been talking about now, but I really wanted to try and figure out a way to enhance that process to take what I had known a step further, even further than I had already gone before. And, uh, I got to

hit a wall with that big ass wall. And then, uh, I, I don't know about you, but I'm like a martial arts movie fan, like Bruce Lee, Jet Li, Jackie Chan, you know? I love those. And growing up, you know, I'd always sat there and watched, you know, like, you know, those type of movies, like, you know, enter the dragon unleashed with Jet Li. That's one of my favorites, you know drunk in boxing showdown in Little Tokyo with Jackie Chan so I had this like deep appreciation for martial arts and There's this one move I can't remember the movie

He really wish I wasn't blanking on the movie this like old martial arts master This like this fucking soldier looking dude walks up to him about ready to fuck this old guy, you know, shit up like he's about ready to like go to like, this dude is dead. Like you're looking at this big guy approaching this little hobbled old man. And the dude goes to swing and this old man does like this weird hand gesture like, oh, blah, blah, blah, like walks these motion is up his arm. And then the guy goes, like holds his chest for a second. And then just falls back and dies. I'm like, what the fuck is that? What is that? What, what just happened there? And, you know,

I found some like loose little articles on the internet, it was this thing called iron palm. It's called iron palm. So what iron palm is, is it's a study of martial arts that has to do with fluid displacement. It's about using a person's vascular system against them. It's about using the flow of blood through a person's body against them. It's about... so like an iron palm master, like an iron palm master, you can't actually defend against them. You can't defend against their attacks because what they'll do is they'll get a hand on you and they'll try to get a feel for your heart rate and then they'll sit there and they'll punch your body based on the rhythm of your heartbeat

in order to basically fire blood into the central cavity of your body to cause internal organ damage. Jesus, man! Yeah, that's real. There's a move in martial arts that is actually inspired from Iron Palm. It's called the touch of death. So basically, after after after an iron palm master has sat there and fired enough blood from your limbs into the central masses of your body, your organs are basically bleeding.

of your body, your organs are basically bleeding. It's basically causing like your capillaries to rupture, it's causing like blood to pool in your internal cavities. What they'll do is they'll kind of put this finishing move to where they're almost like gently set their hand on you to just finish that last bit of compression of firing the blood into your central cavity. And they'll pretty much will cause organ failure. And it's like the person just falls over and dies. into your central cavity and they'll pretty much will cause organ failure.

And it's like the person just falls over and dies. And I don't know if your subscribers would be able to look it up. You'd probably be able to find it. There was this Iron Palm Master background, like the World War II era. He got called out on a sailor's vessel, you know, like show us this move, you know, whatever. And they pull out one of these prize stallions that they had on board. It was like, kill that horse. You know, like, let's see this shit, kill that horse.

And the guy based on the story, he sets his hand on the flank of this horse. Which was him feeling the horse's heartbeat, getting a feel for its rhythm. And then just as just as he feels the blood flow come up as he feels a surge, he presses it down really fast. And at first nothing happens, like nothing's going on. And all of a sudden the horse starts to wheeze really bad. And then it falls down in his front legs and then it just falls over and dies. And whenever they did an autopsy, they found that it had had it had a bleed in its its abdominal cavity.

It basically bled out inside of itself. Jesus. Yeah. So I learned about this and I was like, all right, that's pretty cool. That's a totally cool last subject. Don't know what the fuck I'm going to do with that. Yeah, that's true. Right. You know, I was like, you sometimes you'll come across shit and research. It's like, okay, so I came up with this cool thing that what the hell do I do with it? And I got thinking, I was like, well, wait a minute, wait a minute.

See, you've got these cavernousal chambers. And what's interesting. So, so you've ever heard the joke, you ever heard the joke that, you know, man, a man has one more bone in his body than a woman, a woman, except during sex. You ever heard that joke? I have heard something about that. I forget exactly. Oh, yeah, obviously, this is in her body. Yeah, got you.

Right. I have heard something like that. I don't always like one like I heard it in passing. The joke is that the that the the male member is, you know, a bone. It's your bone. Yeah. Well, funny enough. That little joke is actually true. It's actually true. So the male member is actually a bone.

When we look at primates and we look at you know Apes and stuff like that. They don't actually have They don't they don't have sexual organs like us. They have a bone. They have a penile bone and It's been through adaptation evolution that the human sexual organs, they're no longer calcifying, but they still have the same structure as a spongy bone.

The male member, based on the research, based on everything I've studied, the best way to describe it is, it is a partially differentiated non-calcified spongy bone. It has all of the same structures as spongy bone, but because it's not calcified, it's able to be subjected to fluid displacement. That's how my research works. You're causing fluid displacement, which is causing sheer stress. So I was like, well, that means that if I were to say

strike the side of mycoporal bodies, I'm causing blood to be pushed out of a set area, and I'm causing blood to be pushed into the surrounding corporeal chamber into what they call the lacunae. Spongy bone has lacunae, it has like interconnected cave like spaces, which the male member effectively has. So I started trying to experiment with how to strike along the sides of the corpora cavernousum to cause deep tissue fluid displacement, which causes deep tissue, sheer stress. And the end results is basically just like a woody of your dreams,

like just insane hardness, insane fullness. So I was basically able to add an additional step to my work. But I have not been able to figure out how to mechanically practically apply that yet. But what guys can do basically, is they can sit there and they can use their thumb like this portion of the thumb to bat up against the side of their chambers to cause that fluid displacement. And you end up with like a really, really thick base of pump at the end of your sessions.

And when you're waking up the next morning, I mean, it's like. Jesus, and you're talking both sides, just just kind of like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, what you want to do is you want to lay your member in your hands. You've got a support and then you sit there and you just rhythmically tap up and down one side, then you switch hands and you do it to the other. And it causes that deep tissue fluid displacement, which causes that sheer stress inside the cavernousal bodies, which kickstarts arteriogenesis and senses that targeted area allogenesis.

It's an additional step. Now guys can't just do that exercise. It's not standalone like the Angioma, that's your angioma. It's sort of a polisher to your session to enhance the work that you've done. I don't really know an equivalent bodybuilding way of describing it, but basically it's a way

to polish out your sessions, make them a bit better. It's a foam roller. Yeah, yeah, okay. Basically it's a way to polish out your sessions, make them a bit better. It's a foam roller. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It'd be like foam rolling at the end of a session.

Yeah. Perfect. And I've been spending a lot of money, a lot of money trying to figure out how to mechanically practically apply that coming up with crazy different designs. And yeah, of course, you know, making it easier to make the angio wheel and stuff like that. I can't think of, is there any other additional questions? First of all, that blew me away. That was beyond, I mean, again, I didn't know how in depth all of this was and like, it was phenomenal, honestly. I'm blown away. My question that I have is,

with all of this stuff you're saying, all of this blood flow, what is masturbation doing? Does it reduce size? Does it not? Is it like, what does it do? That oh man, I'd forgotten about that one and that it's a, that's a. It's a hot topic. If you don't wanna answer, I understand because you might have a lot of people. No, I do, no I do. The problem is that this shit is so sad.

It's so sad. So what masturbation will eventually cause, and so like masturbation tends to go hand in hand with porn addiction. With what they call like masturbation tends to go hand in hand with porn addiction. With what they call porn masturbation orgasm, PMO cycle. What will happen with that is that the muscles in your groin after being overworked, cause like your muscles have to kind of compress

ever so slightly to help maintain your erections. That's just a natural part of the hemodynamics of basically the hydraulics of the male sexual organs. Whenever guys say beat off the orgasm, what's effectively happened is you've got like this electrical storm that's happened inside your brain, you're getting that feel good high afterwards, you're like, you know, you feel great. But neurologically, on a neural level, that that feel good sensation is very

loud. Neurologically, it's very loud. And your body will try to protect itself against that afterwards, it will release a set of chemicals and hormones that will pretty much will tone down that it's what's called the what's called the Coolidge effect. It's there's another name for I can't think of it. But basically, you know how if you're orgasm, you have such a difficult time getting an erection again for a while, right? So so that's your brain basically trying to tone things down and protect itself. So what a guy has to do in order to try and get past that protection that their brain has basically put in place to try and you know, keep it from being

injured from this intense experience is of course they have to watch a video that's even more intense. You know, like, I don't know, they could be what they'd have to like watch a video that's even more intense. You know, like, I don't know, they could be what they'd have to like watch a video like some guys looking some girls butthole or something like that just to just like, like they got to like step it up an additional level. Exactly. And then on top of that, you know, they're not getting quite as much blood flow to their sexual organs as it would before because neurologically, your body's trying to ramp that down trying to keep that

Stimulation from happening again because it's it's very loud neurologically So what guys will do is they'll have to tighten down their pelvic floor even more to try and take advantage of that reduced Blood flow a little bit so that way they can get hard again And then of course, they'll beat off hard again. And then of course they'll beat off orgasm. And then we'll just do that over and over again. And what will happen is that the pelvic floor will develop an overuse injury. Your muscles after being overused so often, they'll begin to actually get weaker, they'll begin to foreshorten, they'll

get tighter. And so you end up with these men that are walking around with chronic pelvic floor pain, but it's even more insidious than that. What these muscles will do as they foreshorten is they cause strangulation. They cause strangulation on the corporeal bodies themselves because they're getting smaller and weaker and twitchier. They're basically keeping your cavernousal bodies from expanding to their full size. They're throttling it. They're still choking down on them. And so

what will happen over time is that a guy will experience thinning. Their member will get progressively thinner over time as those muscles get smaller and weaker. And they also have a harder time developing blood flow. From my end of things, what I see is one of the first things that guys begin to notice is that their spongiosum gets less and less full and then their glands will get very shriveled because it's their body choking down. The cavernousal bodies themselves will initially be able to protect themselves because there's so much pressure inside there. They don't notice it right away, but the spongiosum, a lot less pressure, it starts to get thinner

and thinner, the glands start to shrivel and you end up with like what's basically pencil dick, you know, to where guys have shrank themselves from pursuing that orgasm so frequently causing that damage to their pelvic floor muscles. And, yeah, and on top of that, because those muscles are pressing down so hard, they lose sensitivity on top of that, it actually causes nerve strangulation to some effect. And I've seen it taken so far to where guys have actually caused nerve damage to where the angion methods can help restore some nerve function I've discovered over time because it's restoring blood flow, it can resaturate those nerves.

And interesting fact, vascular endothelial growth factor, VEGF, the thing that endothelial cells produce, it also has an additional effect on nerve cells, it causes nerve cells to grow. So as the vascular channel grows, we do see a restoration of sensitivity. Some guys will actually kind of complain about it. They'll be like, man, I've become a two pump chump, you know, I can't laugh. I can actually feel more of what's happening here. that feels so good. I can actually feel more of what's happening here. But yeah, masturbation tends to thin it. And the other thing that happens is curvature. Curvature is another thing that happens. So if you're masturbating with your left hand, your fingers are dragging really hard on your right chamber. And that's causing a progressive amount of damage that's causing a fiber layer to form.

And so if someone's masturbating with their left hand, they're going to end up with a rightward lean over time. Their member is going to start leaning to the right. And of course with the right hand, it's going to be a left hand lean. And the other thing that comes in here is that since guys are less sensitive, they've got to squeeze harder. It's what they call death grip syndrome. They've got to really squeeze down on their members super hard to feel anything. And you end up with all kinds of injuries that happen

with that too. You end up with vascular trauma, varicose veins, because they've got to sit there and almost do a gel-like motion just to keep that fullness and it just can snowball from there. So if you're asking me can masturbation cause a loss of size, a loss of functionality, can it cause damage? The answer is 100% yes. One of the things I tell God whenever they're engaging in this program is, hey, if you want to actually see a benefit in this, if you want to, if you, you know, not just restoring potency, but if you'd like to see size, you can't masturbate in a normal fashion. What I tell guys is, you know, why don't you rely on the hand exercises? Why don't you use the hand exercises as a form of masturbation instead

of the usual, because I found that the usual method of masturbation, it tends to cause those effects. but these newer techniques that have come up with, they don't have that same effect. They don't have the same ramification. So it is a hot topic and it's just painful for me to have to talk about it because wounded healer, again, you know, I went through all, I went through all, I remember how that

felt and to drop that bomb on guys, it's hard. Yeah. It's really hard. And cause some of them are so addicted to porn that they can't get themselves out of that cycle. And so they could struggle with it for months, sometimes years. It's a very touchy subject because I've tried, I've like tried and I've actually had a lot of success in Texas.

You like can't even really look at Pornhub yet to use your ID and like, dude, everyone's like to complain. I'm like, this is exactly what I needed. This is awesome. Cause it does prevent me a lot. Um, so I've had success with like getting off of it a lot, but dude, it's such a supercharged topic because you get some people who are like, don't ever look at it ever in your life that will, and you have some people who are like, Oh, what

do you, what's the big deal, you know, indulge yourself. There's doctors like it's good for you. Do it twice a day and it'll make you calm. All right. It'll make you calmer and more relaxed. So it's a hot topic. I kind of, I can, I mean, look, stuff to think about it, stuff to think about. And, you know, I, I kind of, I'm, I lean on the side where like, yeah, definitely

less is more with that if you're just crank cranky, especially when you get to the point that you're saying it's a psychological addiction, you're like doing it when you don't even feel like it necessarily. It's just like, I just need to do this to fall asleep or whatever. Right. And that's yeah, that's that can be tough stuff. But knowing that it can, I mean, it definitely can make sense. Yeah. I would fuck with you. And you remember how you were saying how like guys who have a lot of sex, like

they're definitely getting bigger. And the reason for that is it's a different form of stimulation. So what a lot of guys will do whenever they're masturbating is they do a jelk like motion. They're pulling up, they're trying to move blood against the normal pathways, the normal flow in order to try to maintain that fullness, which is one of the reasons why there's not carryover. Like if a guy's having an awful lot of sex, I mean, he might be awfully dead tired by the end of the night, but he's not subjecting his sexual organs to the same kind of stimulation as he would demasturbation. So what I always tell guys is, you know, like if you're a horny man, go find a girlfriend, go get yourself a girlfriend, clean yourself up a little bit, go get you someone, you know, don't don't sit there, you know, wanking it in your hand, go find yourself a girl, you know, there's plenty of lonely women out there.

They'll be more than happy to help you if you're willing to help them. You know, it's true. Another hot topic, but yeah, man, I mean, that's brutal reality. And then, you know, if it's like if you're, you know, but I get it. I mean, all guys again, this is another topic. You bring up beating off every dude. If someone's going to be like, it's like, all right, dude, you probably do it the most. Everyone does it.

We all do it. It's obviously a crutch for all of us. Oh, yeah, I'm not like some kind of a saint saying I don't do it on a. I know you're not. I know you're not. But again, this is this is an absolute sensitive subject, but it not like some kind of a saint saying I don't do it. I know you're not. I know you're not. But again, this is this is an absolute sensitive subject. But it's like, you know, the truth doesn't always come the way we want it.

If you know, and it's that people can push back, blah, blah, blah. But it does make sense, especially what you're saying. Like, it's not it's not like, you know, it's not the way it was designed. Obviously, it's a quick fix. But either way, that's a dude. That's pretty much all I have. I mean, I just want to thank you. I think you did phenomenally. Thank you for staying up. I know you have, you know, little kids,

as do I, you know, sleep is definitely a precious commodity. Yeah. The only thing that keeps me up, man, nicotine and caffeine. I swear if someone cut me open, I just like, I just like, I just spew out C4 and you know, like Copenhagen. I saw a grandma get onto a plane one time and she had a sweatshirt. It said, I run on kisses and caffeine. And I was like, I, you know, you like laugh at that, but now I have kids and Mike, dude, it's so fucking true. Oh, I know as a single guy, like all the bullshit you hear about the family is like, can't relate, can't relate. Then you have kids, you're like, I get it now. It's a whole mindset. It really is. Thank you so much. I'll link all of your stuff, the Etsy, I'll link it in the description, all that stuff. I think it's fascinating. I'm obviously

going to get one for sure. So I'll definitely, I'll be preaching the gospel and I'll keep people preaching the good word of your device and I'll try it on myself. It makes sense, dude. I can't think of a... I mean, I'm trying to think of like a critical... Well, whatever, but it just makes too much sense, honestly. Well, I appreciate that a lot. Look forward to your business and thank you again for having me on.

Matt, it's Matt. It's been a pleasure. Pleasure's all here. You're an absolute certified master. You're the only one who knows the answer to the question. Every dude thinks of it. Yeah, that's yeah. I, yeah, that's, yeah, I know.

I think about that daily. It's man, that's trippy. It's still trippy to me. Still trippy. Thank you, bro. There's anything you want to put put like, does any, do you want to say like where your Reddit is or any of this other stuff? Like, and our NGN method on Reddit. And if you're ever on Joe Rogan again, mention me to Joe Rogan. I think Joe Rogan is an awesome, awesome dude. I fell in love with him on Fear Factor. And it's

just been a love ever since I found his podcast. I actually saw you on there. I was watching that segment where you guys were talking. I was, I can't remember the name of it, but it was you and is it your friend Shane? Yeah, Shane Gillis, yeah. Yeah, you three were like sitting there talking about MMA stuff and whatnot.

I was like, it looked like a lot of fun. It's a blast. He's the man and dude, you know, who knows? Maybe he'll, maybe his eyes will fall upon this. It's definitely, it'll be, uh, I'm really excited to see what people think about it, but dude, thank you so much and good luck with everything. Good luck. You know, the kids, all that stuff. God bless you, dude. Thank you so much. Nope. I'm, uh, I'm going to get myself to bed. I got an early rise,

so you take care. Dude, thank you. Me too.