Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast - Ep 546 - Maxo Kream (feat. Maxo Kream)

Episode Date: February 15, 2025

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Nice. Yeah, we were just talking plane crashes. Too many, man. Way too many. That shit's got a nigga scared shit. Dude, I'm telling you, I flew. I had to fly with my wife and I was just ready. I was like, man, if this is it, this is it. That's crazy, dude, how the helicopter just flew into that fucking plane.

Yeah, that's crazy. Like, they didn't see it on like the radio, like the radio scan or whatever. That's crazy. Yeah, man. I don't know. It gets people's wheels spinning in a really bad way where it's like, why, how the fuck did that happen?

And then, this is the crazy part. I never listen to what they tell me. Like, yo, so grab the oxygen and everything, bro, something happened, I'm a freak. And how's that gonna save us? I know, dude. Until I wear a seatbelt. Yeah, a seatbelt when the helicopter hit the plane.

Yeah, you're fucked. It's too crazy. Yeah, and then if you like, when I fly with my kids, they make me read the brochure to them So like read this and I have to like, you know, I like that like like why do they have their heads down their laps? I'm like bats, you know if you just want to get a little extra Comfortable in case we got a land really quick and I'm like that's where that's what you do They keep you from like freaking out like that's what happens. You're about to die Try to blow yourself you ever see the picture?

They're like, put your head in your lap. And it's like, bro, I'm just going to go out. Anybody who made their flexible. And if you is that flexible, you sus true. That's what you do. That's true. Yeah. If you, that would be crazy to see somebody like think they're going down and just

have their head just like right in their lap. And you're like, Lord forbid, but something like that happened. First off, I'm not getting out in no single foul. I'm pushing my way through. You know what I'm saying? It sounds fucked up. But I'm grabbing my go yard bag. Yeah.

I already lost my arm. So basically, you lose everything that you check in, right? So that's gone. Yeah, you got it. Yeah. I got to say something. I'm grabbing that, and I'm getting the fuck.

But then you got to go down a yellow inflatable slide, but that's if you land But if you have something in the air some I'm in an airplane like Like something happened you go down the flammable side by the grace of God you bless Yeah, true cuz just being in the air anything happen that scary shit. Yeah, dude Fucking plane gets off. I do see that one video with a plane like it was it I think Houston no, there was one way, like months ago in Brazil. Oh, damn. I don't know if it was Brazil.

It was another country. And the plane, the engines lost power, and it just fell. Like, it didn't even crash. It just fell dead out of the sky. Like, insane. So how they land? Dude, they exploded. Oh, oh, oh.

Literally, it just lost power. Like, if you think an airplane crash if you know like you think airplane crash You're like like that this just stopped and was like boom and did like a dead spin and just fell It was the most fucked up shit I've ever seen but you know I flew this weekend. I'm alright I flew the show back and forth and again. This is the best time. I got tighten up Yeah, you do counts well That was the fucked up thing because then because then both political sides started blaming each other. They were like, you know,

Republicans were like doing the DEI stuff and then the Democrats were like, you fired the head of the FAA, the federal or whatever. But then it's like, dude, so you're telling me if one guy, you guys have an organization where one guy leaves, everything starts to crash. It's like, what was he doing? All the fucking glow sticks himself?

Like what the fuck are you talking about, dude? talking about the tighten up. I don't know. I play. We might be under attack. I know. I feel like they're like, well, it's too. Bro, it's more safe to ride an airplane to dry your hellcat down fucking 6th Street. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. So all this shit happened like that. I don't know, man. Just too much going on right now. You know just I know Dude, it's yeah, it's getting weird man. I I'm off the point right I'm actually dude. I'm in a fasted state right now not not talking about just off the point and stuff

I'm off. I haven't eaten in two days real. Yeah, I'm just fancy. I'm gonna state of grace. No no nothing Just water a little bit coffee. I was like I'm gonna do that. It's on Adderall. Oh you could do that I'm probably coffee. All the time I can do that, it's on Adderall. Oh, you can do that. Yeah, yeah, two days easy. That ain't shit. You should do an Adderall fast, that'd be sick. Hell yeah, get a lot of shit done.

But Adderall, see, I'm glad that you fastened our porn. Yeah. I watch so much porn when I pop Adderall. Really? I just want to be alone for two hours. Oh, you're StemFapping, it's called StemFapping. StemFapping, what's that, put me on game. StemFapping is when you use stimulants and just go into a pornhole and just allow yourself to fap

It's like chem sex. I mean, I'm not it's a chem sex gay guy, you know, obviously not drawing the comparison but Chemsex is big in the gay community where you just get like whacked on meth and it's just dudes on meth No, I just feel like I'm not saying you're doing that, but Stem Fapping's the hetero version of that. I don't stem nothing. I just, all this shit stem from the Adderall. And me just wanting to also, I was to myself. I feel like Adderall shrivels your dick.

I don't even know how. Yeah, then it get complicated because then you want all kind of rhino pills. Yeah, man, I might, hey, let me know what you want. I need a fast. The Adderall Rhino, dude, you're definitely Stem Fapping, by the way. If you're telling me you're entering Rhino pill yeah, I might let me know what you want to like I need a fast the Adderall Rhino You definitely stiff after by the way if you're telling me you're entering Rhino pills in there. That's Tim. No no That's not still passing. It's called being 30 plus Well here dude if you go off the porn I was literally just thinking about this today

I've been off it. Thank God. I mean it's been since like the New Year Which is pretty that's pretty good for me Cuz I'm gonna I'm a bit of an avid consumer myself But dude when you go off of it your brain really does rewire to the point where you're like You can just like smell ladies perfume and you're like holy shit like when you were a kid true true true you get back to that is that I really think like porn has I Feel like it's made all of us

More gay like we're not saying everyone's gay But I'm saying like here's the thing if you walk by and you see a lady's shoulders, and you get kind of chubbed up You're definitely less gay than a guy who doesn't get chubbed up from seeing a lady's shoulders. You know I'm saying So if you're watching porn, you're just slowly you're still hetero. Yeah, you're drifting. I get what you're saying Flappin ain't got nothing to do with me Cab. I don't know. I don't like this. You're still hetero. Yeah. Drift. I get what you said. All this flapping ain't got nothing to do with me. I don't know. I don't like this. You're not stiff. You're not stiff. But now I know what you mean. Like, oh, now she got to bent over showing it. That's what I'm saying. You know, I'm

saying for you to get hard with whether you can just see something. It's a vicious cycle, dude. Like the only fans. Because then the women now are just contorting themselves into like art. The women's these new camera filters. Yeah, true. And it's fucking, when Twitter turned to X, it was over with. Goddamn Twitter.

Like, that's why I'm at my Twitter space. I'm like, okay, I'm trying to do something positive. Let me go look at some sneaker shit, go look at some clothes. Up is a yellow ball with green eyes, finger in the self. Yep, I know. Up is a one given head.

Oh, she's actually kind of good. You gotta say you're not interested. What's she, she in Houston?. You gotta say you're not interested. She in Houston Not interested. You gotta go is not interested. No. Thank you, Elon And I'm telling you dude, it makes a to make a huge difference for me man Just getting off that shit altogether for sure because then it's like dude women now look like fucking artificial beings like They're chasing an ideal. That's just like completely artificial and they're shredding themselves into a man that's sort of most beautiful women they go get all these surgeries and I don't want to offend nobody saying then

is this live live no no no we can edit whatever but they go then they do all that work just start looking like wow wow West it's good like damn right they're getting more gay the women are getting more gay. The guys are getting more gay. They been gay. True. Every woman got an ounce of gay in them. You know what I'm saying? Women tell me that. Or like all of them a little bi. You know what I'm saying?

For sure. With that it's like they doing it to oppress theyself cause all that. I still like natural bodies. Every people don't gotta have the fattest ass. For sure. You know what I'm saying? I still like little shit like freckles,

the normal shit. You know what I'm saying? Like normal hips and shit. But then they gonna get some hard ass titties. Ladies, you know how hard it is to have six of them hard ass shit? I'm a nigga, I'm a layer. So I like to lay on you and shit like that,

then I'm already kind of big. So I'm putting them down on rocks, until my titties and then your titties. I'm like, God damn. They're boring into you. They're just fucking digging into your body. But they look good though. You know, some ladies like, you know,

man, whatever, build your self esteem. You want to do that shit? I'm all for it, you know what I'm saying know, man would ever build your self-esteem you want to do that shit? I'm all for it. You know, they're not building their self-esteem. They have fucking they're getting like they're they're shooting I think Botox is like snake venom. Yeah, it relaxes your like nervous system your muscles I was just saying that song get canceled. They need to hear it. I mean I'm not like trying to be like a big hard-ass like fucking ladies listen up but it's like dude if you think about it like we've I Mean dude, we've got there was if you read if you ever listen to like the brave new world or read it out

It's actually is like a book about the future. He had this big thing where it was like we've traded Like real interpersonal communications for he called it the pneumatic ideal, which is like women Specifically are like the women of the future he predicted would just be like pumped full of air to give her a pleasing appearance But then men would fall in love with this thing. That's essentially hollow and worthless It's kind of fucked up. Yeah, but if you think about it, dude, it's like so you have women If you think about women and only fans, it's like alright we can do only fans We can make millions of dollars blah blah blah blah. It's like dude, and I'm not saying this to be a dickhead. I'm this is I think scientific fact They'd be happier to have a kid

Right it's like you could just put up like neurological brain scans and say all right. What do you what is there more? No, you know like serotonin and like dopamine right you can measure the chemicals What you're flowing more when you're holding your child or if you're stiff like putting like marbles Up your asshole on a camera It's like not even close. It's not even close. So it's like yeah, dude Then you know, it's it's like but then if you can make millions of dollars as everyone's fapping to it It's like for so, you know I've done dude. I'm an avid fapper dude, and I've been trying I've been off

Thank God because once you have kids you have to stop man my daughter my daughter made me something plus my baby mama it was just to the point where like it was fucking up our relationship porn watching that shit you know I'm saying you ever get caught I just get caught jacking off him try play sleep like she'll walk out, try to play asleep, but then I got my third leg standing on some cover just. It sucks when they catch you. The craziest part was when my mama first called me, I tried to play asleep and she snatched the cover back. And then like, she go to Bath and Body Works

and she got a, it was called Cherry Blossom. So the whole room smelled like cherry blossom. I'm like, fuck. I know the exact set. But like, once you're at a certain age, cause I got a cousin named Big Steve. And since I got called jacking off, you know you with the boys, they gonna always tease you.

Then once everybody turned 30, they all admit it. Nigga, we all do it. We men, we all do it. We just come to you cause you got caught fool. Shit like that, so. Who do you get caught by? I got caught by my mama. I got caught by my brother with four. I got caught by my mama. I got caught by my brother before

I got caught by one of my older sisters my manu And I got caught Yeah, man, I've got caught so many times dude, it's embarrassing so and you there's no way I just got caught this weekend There's no way I Stuck off to the shower in the morning. I thought it was safe. I was like, I'm not going to bother you. And then she was like, what are you doing in there? And I was like, same thing. Standing in the shower to maybe no, and then there's a program. I'm like, come on,

none. Shut the fuck up. I was trying to. That's my thing. I'm trying to be nice because I'm not trying to bother you. I'm like, all right, I'm like, let's just get out of here. We're going to fly today. I'm going to rub on out real quick. We'll get on the plane. Just what are you doing? And I was I was like standing the shower with a boner like no she woke up It's natural and she's like I saw what you were doing and I was like no you didn't and then like, you know Then I'm caught lying. I'm like god damn it. I'm like, yes, I was why do they try to make us feel so fucking bad I feel like the worst person on earth, but that's the thing too

I feel like a lot of the shame is like just self-possessed because she's like, yeah if you want to do it go ahead I don't mind. She's like I and I was just like, oh shit so kind of spun it into some you know freaky morning stuff but it was like sometimes they do yeah I spent it depends on they you know I'm saying how they coming with we had our own little like what was it called the young king party what's that I'm sorry it was it was like the latest Diddy thing but he wasn't having freak offs they were young king, I'm sorry. Young king nights or something. I ain't gonna lie.

I used to go to Diddy's son parties. Did you really? Yeah, I never seen that shit, but I never go upstairs. I know like I'm in the parties at my house. I'm here, I'm thugging, but I went to a Halloween party one time and I didn't know that it was Diddy inside the IT costume. He walking around and shit, but I'd seen that kind of like come in me and my niggas. This back before I was on liquor now I drink liquor party I was on lean so I'm in there like

weak ass Robyn Steele and I don't know. Come on y'all let's go. Shit like that you know what I'm saying. I ain't never seen that shit. Well yeah I heard this was like a yeah, who the fuck knows anything about it But this I watched it you ever watch soft white underbelly. I love it. I love that fucking show So yeah, there's a lady who said she was there and it was much more like organized because it was like she was outside according To her she was outside. There's like an outside of the party Then there's like the inside and it's like back and forth and there's like security and she says she was let into the inside and that's why a lot of people were there but they're like I don't really see anything because

there's like a kind of like a party within the party that like kind of selective and they have people someone reached out to her was like we want you to come in and then she came in and she was like I just saw some pretty wild shit and was like just took off yeah but it's a shame that happened because now everyone's on the order select they're gonna select me for no shit like that Well, everyone's on high guard now because it's like it just sucks It's like everyone it was like the Epstein thing when I've seen got in trouble Everyone was like you motherfuckers are all child molesters and it's like bro. I promise you I didn't do that

Yeah, so yeah, it's tough. But the young king knight is I mean from a branding perspective. I'm just a brand It's such a funny thing to call, you know, whatever the fuck you use. You just can't even have party nights no more when you like that. It's got to be board games now. I just go to the club. That's what I call it. The booty club. Yeah, so I was actually curious about that. What's the etiquette? So say like you're in the club, you're there, there's like girls

around and stuff. Do people like, do you ever like fart in the club or do you try to like keep that to a minimum? I mean shit, if I do, I do a real subtle and I make it a poop and I move on a lot of people so I can blame somebody else. You know what I'm saying? But it depends like, if Lord, I can see right there, I'm like, yeah bitch, that's why I farted.

Like you know what I'm saying, something, cause they my boys. But like, if I don't want to strip, I'm like, hey, that's you. Get out there, get up there. How often does that happen to somebody just like crush a club with a hard fart? I don't know.

I don't know. What made you ask me that? What thing? You're talking about the club and I was curious about- Yeah, yeah, yeah, but like farting is crazy, but I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I don't know what everybody else booty doing,

but I know that I might poop a couple of times throughout the night. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I just, I've never heard a rapper, you're always like something about the club. I never heard anyone mention farting in the club. I know it happens. Man, the most smell you're going to smell in a strip club

is a female with bad pH. Yeah, true. That is a different, that's probably a battle of saints. And then it's so fucked up, I could tell like, certain pH like, okay, that's my like salmon. I don't know what she would, then you smell another one like, okay, that's my life salmon. I don't know what she would then you smell another one. Like, okay, no, she's in a relationship.

Whoever she fucking with keeps nothing in her and throwing off her pH is different smells to the pH. Or you might be like, she coming off of a period. Oh man. Yeah, that makes, that's crazy. You're getting this close up on him. The, yeah, there is, there's the fit. Bro, come on, you know, sometimes they throwin'

that ass in your face. I'm about to shoot a video. It's true. No, that's true. That's actually fuckin' awesome, by the way. Man, I know a nigga that was in Strip Club. He got this close, he got pink eye. What?

Pink eye the next day. There's a Strip Club in Philly, if you're ever there. I actually don't even recommend you go there, but there. Is it on the North, the North West side? No, this isn't like South Philly. It's called Show and Tell. Oh, no. But they would have, what was the one you were talking about? Hey, what's name? That's your club, huh? Said it off. No, I don't know about set it off

I've never been but show and tell was be white you bring your own beer and you would go You can go there, you know when you're like 18 whatever right and they used to when I was younger They had live dildo shows where they would have women on stage, and dude these were clearly addicted to heroin, these were junkies, on stage fucking band-aids on their butt. It was bad. And they would just fucking dildo each other and then they would reach it into the crowd and the dudes would be like, whoa, dipping away, get that the fuck away from me.

See y'all don't see out here, we just got, it be like bad bitches, white, black, Puerto Rican, like all like, you know what I'm saying, the bad ones, someone got their body done, but Texas, it's a lot of thick one, we have a lot of thick shit out there. So like, that's what the Ostrich Club be. On the East Coast, y'all strippers be ugly,

y'all bartenders be the shit. It's true, bartenders so much better. Like the gun wounds, stab wounds, all that kind of shit. And then they don't get money missing tooth. Meanwhile, the bartender got 30 tricks. She probably making 30k a night like Bernice Burgos said, you know what I'm saying? Cause it's money in New York. It's money in Philly. Like when them niggas trick, they trick hard. So the bartender's living luxury and the stripper's really broke. But in Houston, it's opposite. Really?

Hell yeah. It's actually should be though. The bartenders should be kind of like busted and the strippers should be like. I mean they make it, but our bartender's not better than the strippers. That's a weird thing I never thought about. Cause the bartender's always like.

Why they do that? I don't know man. I don't know. But I think what they usually do is, what I've heard is they can kind of entice a woman into the bartending position, like, no, you're just a bartender, then slowly try to get her up on stage.

But now it's like, if you go to Starlet, if you go to Atlantis, like in New York, or like in Philly, I forgot they're one strip club, and Philly, like, the bartenders is where it's at. I know, trust me, I've definitely seen this. Like, that's like the prime thing. I'm like, that's just weird because they're not the ones shaking ass.

Yeah. They're not like, they do a little something, but they just like, you know, head on the pedals. They be bad too though. They be some bad, I ain't going to lie. East Coast got some bad ass bartenders. Yeah, I might, you know, I've been kind of like hot for like a charitable cause.

I might go back to Philly and try to get like to thicken the strippers up. That could be my charity. Feed them properly. Raise awareness. Because there's some really scraggly... Coin ready caps.

True. Get them right. There's some really scraggly... Dude, it's pretty... I used to deliver beer and I would go deliver beer to the strip clubs and I would go in there at 12 noon just dropping cases of beer off and you would see the dudes in there at Do you ever go like in the afternoon time, which I have done myself You can like talk to them but that's more but like, you know, I'm black you white even though you black you still white so like at the same time is like

Y'all wanna go to look this. I look this how the black man cheat on they wife. Or like cheat, you know what I'm saying? Now I say you don't do the hits, a very good man, my boy don't do that, but I'm gonna bust it down how we do it. Or how people do it. Black man, yeah baby I'm be out with the boys, I got studio all night, woo woo woo. It's gonna be some real nighttime shit. So it's nighttime, very sneaky, club woo woo woo. The white man, white collar man, they work and go like,

whenever like, them paralegal niggas are like lawyers and niggas with money, like the white collar crime or like just a, like that type. So lunch is at noon, right? They go fuck the men's club up. They be in there with they suits, all that shit, the guys drinking beer and they're tipping big ass money, fucking up their mortgage salaries,

but they gonna get it back on these strippers during the day. So that's what the white man do. He like to go to the strip club. Cause like, you know, I know a lot of strippers, like they be telling me that they make more money doing the day shift than the night shift. Or they might work at like St. James, which is like kind of a cabaret with like,

why do white men wanna talk at the strip club? Y'all always wanna grab a stripper and talk to him. So they had Grav Wayne, cause then look, they be like conversation ruled the nation. So if the girl got good conversation, she could break him for more money. Niggas wanna go stand on the couch and hit in the head with money,

throw it up, shoot a music video with it. Like you know what I'm saying, there's different etiquettes. True, there is. So that's why you like going to the strip club. I love the daytime. They get too active at nighttime. During the day you can talk to them at nighttime. It's like the flip switches and they're just too like,

you can really talk to them. And it's also like, I used to love to just ask them like, what's like the craziest shit? Like what's like the weirdest request you've ever had just out of personal curiosity And dude, I've it's pretty jarring. Have you ever gotten into that with them? Hell? Yeah, like I know one girl It ain't that bad with like and they'll be giving like 4,000 the video just a sneeze What that's like hot shoe weird really sneeze like the sneeze and different

Like one time he said walk walk in the room, turn around and sneeze. Gave her like 3,500. What? For a video, she wasn't even naked or nothing. Everybody, I don't know, people be having different fetishes and shit like. Yeah, I talked to one lady one time who said that she got, I think like two grand or a thousand bucks

for a guy would, or she would have her and her friends like pee in like a bar glass and he would they'd have to watch he would drink their pee at the bar and to give him like two grand That is yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, pretty tight. I Mean it's cool to be that far. It's crazy. No, dude. Hell no Reasons I wouldn't drink drinking piss Fucked up though. You drank stripper crazy. Stripper pee would get you fucked up, though. If you drank stripper pee, you would probably get kind of fucked up. But you know what's crazy?

A lot of girls like to be peed on. Really? Hell yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, I just learned that. They like it. They like that shit. Shower or where do you go?

They like this new, like, this new little wave of women, like 25 and shit like that. They like that. And they like to eat ass. Damn, Free R. Kelly. Yeah, I don't, yeah. Way ahead of his time. A man ahead of his time, a sexual pioneer. You know what I'm saying?

And they like to eat ass. That shit is crazy. Yeah, I've heard they don't eat ass. I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah. Hell no. I don't know how to feel this thing about it. How do I position myself?

I do. And feel like a man? There's no good way to do it. After getting your ass saved. Squat, you could squat over her. Man, come on, man, no. Now I feel like I'm getting hit. Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm saying.

And then I'm a man, so I hang, I have a limb. You eating my ass, now I feel like you eating my pussy or something, I feel like a bitch. Yeah, this is what's happening. The girls are trying to capture men by reflecting what they're seeing in pornography and that everyone's getting increasingly more, which is one of those things where people

weren't even gonna care about gay stuff in 40 years anyway. So I mean, you could be dying on a hill that doesn't matter. I don't got no problem with no gay people, nothing. For sure. And plus there's nothing gay that you could do with a woman. That's what I'm saying. Or it'd be some shit crazy like, one time I was having sex with my baby mother,

she licked my nipple and I was like, oh, what the fuck was that? That's unden'm saying. There's be some shit crazy like, one time I was having sex with my baby mother, she licked my nipple and I was like, oh, what the fuck was that? That's undeniable, that shit. I was like, what is this, do I like this? Definitely, everyone does. You can't argue with that. It's unbelievable. That's like, that's my go-to personally.

Word. Yeah, if I'm on top, I'll be like, come on. I need you, I need you. I'm not gonna know what she. You don't need rhinos, dude. You just need her to I need you. You don't need rhinos, dude. You just need her to latch on there, dude. You're fucking... It is be the Adderall. Dan, I look, this a thing. Because Adderall gonna have you all gummy worm. You feel me? You gonna be hella gummy worm. But after that whole kick back out and that rhino still in you, you gonna be like... True.

...knocking over shit. You know what I'm saying? So here's the thing though, with the rhinos, don't you worry, like, you know, you're gonna start, it becomes like something you need every time. Hell not, cause see, me, now that I'm drug free, you know what I'm saying, I don't do nothing no more. I'm prescribed Adderall though.

Like, I know how to take it in doses, like you don't go buy the biggest one, and just, hell no. Like that shit gonna hurt. Like you gonna be on heroin so bad, you hurt. You take it, you open the cap, you put a little bit. Yeah. Know what I'm saying?

Hit on the gums, hit in your tongue or something. Hit it like with like a little water or something just to get you a little. Yeah. Not all the way like that. You don't need that much help. Like you might, it's like lifting weights. You got it, but you might need that little.

Little boost. But you don't need somebody to lift the whole thing for you. Do you drink coffee or just like you like to? Are you talking about the little time release balls or you like the powder? Nah, so Rhino got like a little, it looked like a five hour. Oh, you're saying with the Rhino you take a little powder. Oh, hell yeah.

I thought you were saying you're cracking Adderall capsules. I mean, I do that too. Yeah. That's how I take it because we're really power bands. Yeah. Because power bands are more cleaner and it's kind of be like stronger in this time release So I put a little bit right though We hear like that. Damn somebody told me max. So you do adderall just do coke man

They're like bro coke is like adderall's big cousin. I'm like bro. Hell now It's kind of a brilliant way to put it. But yeah, that's cuz if you snort a line you'll smoke a dime True and it's also the fentanyl dude Then that's another reason see back when I was doing pills and shit like that It was like like the drug rap era like that I came up being the shit like that Wasn't no fitting all the Xanax. Mm-hmm and shit like that. You know I'm saying and like don't get me wrong I thought Xanax was the dumbest drug. I was like, why the fuck did I do that shit back in the day?

So stupid. Then I used to pop Perks. Perks wasn't that bad. A Perk 10 is not that bad, you know what I'm saying? But when they on Roxies, Oxies, and that shit got the pin in it, it's the worst shit you ever seen. It's like, why do you want to be a zombie slumped over?

That's how you get robbed, beat up, taken advantage of, or like, you're going to wake up in jail. Yeah, well the problem, the Perks lead to the Roxies, Oxies, and all that stuff. That's how you rob beat up taking advantage of or like you're gonna wake up in jail Yeah, well the problem the perks lead to the Roxie's oxys and all that stuff. That's a problem I knew dudes that would take like 30 in a weekend. It's like bro. Yeah, I was never that but see I took them like in a weekend probably 10 But I never got hooked like I don't got like a dick than personality like that Like I just sibling like a motherfucker. Yeah, all that I do not got a sibling like personality like that. Like I used to sip lean like a motherfucker. All that. I do not got a sip lean. Like I've been, okay, I sip like two months ago when there was a cup.

You know what I'm saying? Like, all right, I'm from Houston. So that's how I coach. Let's say on my brother's death day, you're gonna toast a cup. Oh, it's Christmas. We got all the kids' toys and shit. All the men outside, we toasting the cup like that.

You know what I'm saying? But I don't have to go buy a pint every day, sip and shit like that. Like my dad never had addicted personality and my shit not addicted like that. Like I can stop cold turkey when I want. Yeah, I'm the same way. I've tried Percocets, all that stuff.

I didn't really care for them. I was always like, it's a waste of money. I'm not wasting money on them. But I got one time my sister had bronchitis, I think. So they gave her the Promethazine, like a bottle of it. And me and my brother, it was like the day before Thanksgiving, I think it was the day before Easter. So we were all home at my parents' house.

We went to a bar, we got drunk the night before, and then we come back and we're in the bathroom and I open the drug cabinet and I show him my brother's hammer. I wasn't that drunk, but I was like, he was shit-faced. And I grabbed the bottle of Promethazine, I just untwisted it, but I put my tongue over the cap and I pretended like I was chugging like a bunch of it.

And he's like, give me that shit I'll do right now. He chugged like a good amount of it. And he woke up the next day with a hangover and also just like fucked up from that shit. Literally all day, we were in church, he was just sitting there like this, like all fucked up like what did he drink last night? Because that permethoxine it's gonna hit you harder than lean because like the codeine and shit it help you lean the permethoxine put you straight down. Yeah. Then I only that I remember was so when I so my transition to

drinking liquor I was still on lean so I sip lean during the day go out I'm in LA we partying hard drinking liquor then I remember it was a month where everything I ate I throw up. I thought I had a stomach bug, but no, I was sipping leaner liquor in the same day. Oh, dude. Yeah, it fucks you up. Yeah, thank God. I'll do it in the mall.

Yeah, because especially did you like pass out? Did you get like real tired or were you like because I know anyone I knew who is on a lot of pills you go out and have one drink. They're like the thing is pills like by that time I was like I was going to take doing pills like that. It was more just lean. Yeah. No, I'm saying lean and liquor. But shit, I was sipping so hard. Like my tolerance was higher than the mother. Yeah, I was really like, I just sit like six lines, like four lines a day. I was down to a deuce today. So you know, I'm saying it wasn't that damn bad. But now, if like I sit one line, I'll be sleeping the whole day. And that's an ounce, right? Yeah, a line is an ounce. Six is a lot.

My friend drank four and crashed his car into a hill. We tried to sell, we tried to sell from, it was probably all like watered down. But we like got in the magazine, tried to sell it in the suburbs. And I remember being like, all right, dude, hide this at your house. I'll be back for it. He just drank the whole thing, crashed into a hill. I was like, he's tripping. But now I dropped him a four, but like, that's what they did. They take a 20 ounce, drop a four. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

And then you know when your drink muddy cause you dropping the lean and it changed the temperature. Like the drink not even cold no more cause you put so much mud in there. You know what I'm saying? So mud is the lean. Mud is lean. So let me get you, let me run down all the slang for you.

Cause I'm pretty sure we bought like Kairos here, but I think we got ripped off. That's what they said you gotta watch for people. So they gonna call it mud, they gonna call it oil, they gonna call it drink. Yeah. Shit, what else they call it? Texas tea.

Okay. Punch, like a nigga call you, be like, hey, y'all got some punch over there? Y'all got some Texas tea? Something like that, like that's what they call it. But isn't there, there's like yellow, red and purple. So let me tell you. So red that I know was for Hot Tech Red.

So I think they got bought off by Acorn and they started producing like that. That was the red, I love red. Red came right after Activist. So it was Activist, like when I started sipping, it was Activist. I know like the older niggas from like SUC, Houston, all the stuff, Power All them,

they would sip a bar back in the day. Bar and activists is the best tasting lean of all time. You know what I'm saying? Hell yeah. Then at the high tech, it was Walk Hard. RIP to Walk Hard, people still going crazy over Walk. All the young niggas, but they never really had act. They really never sipped that shit,

so they don't really know how that shit coming, but that's how you do it. But the strongest lean is, it's called testin X. That's the yellow. That's the snap. You know what I'm saying? Ooh, that shit's so like one line of that is like a three of purple. Really?

Hell yeah. Then you got green lean. So green lean don't got codeine in it. It's just for methanese. And then they do got one you got Green Lean. So Green Lean don't got codeine in it, it's just for methazine. And then they do got one that got codeine, it's called Carico. But Green Lean is what the hood niggas drink. That's like the Reggie. Really?

Like yeah. Yeah, yeah, so it's just the bullshit. Hell yeah, but it knock you down, it puts you out. Yeah, okay. But you gotta be careful with that because niggas putting fit in all of that. They putting fit in all of everything. I know.

I could've sworn somebody, I bought some weed when somebody got so high, I'm like, I ain't fucking with them. Well, you know what they're doing with weed too, is they're taking, you know like K2 and Spice and all that? They're just taking the synthetic cannabinoids and it's like THC and they just make it in the lab and it's like one molecule off,

so it's like technically legal. And they just spray it on like shit weed and they're doing that now. CBD, THC,C seven delta eight. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of fucked up. And now weed's legal dude, like it's. Not in Texas. Yes it is, cause here's the thing,

they're doing delta nine. So with weed, you know, it's like delta nine THC, that's the illegal substance. You know how when you make brownies, you have to heat weed up to get that, like that whatever carboxyl, they call it carboxylated. You got to heat it up to like make it active. And all you're doing is, so weed naturally is THC-A, it's a carbon molecule.

Right. When you heat it up, you remove the carbon molecule and then you can like eat it and get high from it. Right. So they're just testing weed as is, as THCA and saying it's hemp and it's totally, you can get it shipped. In Texas too. I got my own brand, but that's how you got it's hemp. And it's totally legal. You can get it shipped in Texas too. I got my own brand, but that's how you gotta do it. You gotta say cannabis.

Once you say cannabis, that's just legal. And Trump made that shit. I don't know, look it up. What's your brand? It's called Texas Tea. That's it, oh, that's it. You get it like the lean, but it's, you know what I'm saying, the syrup.

So yeah, and then my overall brand is called Persona Pec. Nice. You know what I'm saying? But even with the weed shit but, and then my overall brand is called Persona Pec. Nice. You know what I'm saying? But even with like the weed shit like, just how you go to the strip club during the day, I go at night, you're a white man. They're gonna press me regardless. You gotta think, I'll be the Rico case.

Like John Guy, I got caught with 2,000 pounds. You know what I'm saying? Damn. 500K money laundry. That was before I signed my deal. You know what I'm saying? So that reputation. How many pounds again?

2000. So they were watching us, they said 2000 pounds. A ton. Hell yeah. Literally a ton. You're called a ton of money. Hell yeah. That's crazy.

For sure you can lift that shit up. How'd you beat it? How do you even? Shit. First year I go hard, Ken Schaefer. You know what I'm saying? He taxed the fuck out of my young ass. I had to give him a honey K, I was hurt.

I was hurt. But yeah, so hire him, don't get in no more trouble. Let this shit fight out. And then let TACA and Delta 9 come into play around 2020. Throw your damn case. Go on tour, go on the run, come back, go to jail for a month, walk in front of the judge, dismiss.

That's awesome, man. Hell yeah. Congrats. They offered me eight years. What? After the motorcycle, I'm like, damn, I ain't take that shit. Yeah, fuck that. For weed, bro.

Yeah. For weed. You got white men out here making billions off the shit, and you worried about little old me. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Dude, I had a guy on who was, he got caught selling, he's a white dude. You got caught selling LSD in 92 right? He got caught with he didn't get he can get caught with anything personally It was just all he was sending Western unions, and they like traced it back to him right

Do they wanted to give him like 35 30 years? I think for like maybe a couple sheets of acid like something crazy So they're like, but the weed, they're really killing people. And now it's like, nobody wants to be the last prosecutor. Happened to Kamala, she was fucking crushing people on like bullshit weed charges, landscape shifts. And now it's like, yeah, remember you throw those people in jail and it fucking killed her.

So I don't think judges, if they have political, like they want to rise in the political world, want to be the last guy. Cause that's crazy. Like y'all really stopping family. Weed bro, listen, this one thing about weed. Lean, yes I might fight you over that shit. Like you know what I'm saying, get mad.

Perks, yes, and fuck with you. It's people that back in the day in the streets that we probably seen each other, shout out, fall. But we met over a blunt of weed and became best friends for life. Or I found like, bro but weed is so cool. Like once I started smoking weed, with people and shit, meeting new people,

networking, it's like a spiritual bond pause. But it's like, it is something about smoking a blunt with somebody like, it is so real. It is so real about sharing a blunt, like you know what I'm saying? It ain't like we smoking Roxies together or some shit, a heroin, you feel me? But I heard in Portland, you can walk around

with like an eighth of heroin, an eighth of cocaine, and not go to jail. Yeah, I think they did that there. I don't know how it's gonna work. I mean, hopefully. No, they been doing that. Yeah. They totally decriminalized that.

Hell yeah, I was on tour. Every time I go to tour, they say that shit. I'm like, that's crazy. I don't wanna get too political, but I know why they do that. Why? Because they ain't that many motherfucking black people in Portland.

And then most of the people that use it, they be your color and shit. They be like drugged out, but they be functional as fuck. That's kind of nice. They be having a family, like they be running shit, they functional as fuck. You know what I'm saying? So they probably let that shit slide up there.

Houston, been out here caught with no dog food, been out here caught with no cocaine. Yeah, you go to jail. Mandatory minimum, yeah hell yeah. You gonna go to jail for sure. Yeah, Phillies like that though. Phillies, they like to criminalize weed, but yeah if you get caught with heroin or coke,

maybe, I don't know, we had that guy who was just like letting everything go for a while, but I don't think it really worked that well. Yeah, for sure. They didn't even let weed be all the way to Texas. I don't know why they doing all that. It's coming. You got all these people from California moving.

People from California with a bunch of money are moving here and they're going to be like, bro, knock it off. But now you can have, I guess Austin, they don't really care. You can have like a Zip, Austin, see you in Austin. Austin don't give a flying fuck. Yeah, they don't care. Like this is like the most coolest spot in Texas, like on like some chill hippie, Bob shit.

I love the shows in Austin. I love how the fans react. They gonna buy the fuck out some merch. Like they support for real. Yeah, but yeah, I heard if you leave Austin in another part of Texas, you can get like locked up for a vape cartridge. Man, oh, that's a feeling.

You get caught with a vape cartridge in Houston, that's a controlled substance. So that's like having crack cocaine. That's like having perks. That's like having that. Damn, that's a controlled substance. So that's like having crack cocaine. That's like having perks. That's like having that. Damn, that's crazy. Hell yeah. Like kids, like y'all at school,

they marijuana, vape cars, y'all really fucking up. It's not even like getting caught with no goddamn. It's not even like getting caught with a gun or weed in Texas. You get caught with a gun, it's whatever. You know what I'm saying? That's crazy. Like that's like Class B misdemeanor.

Even if you underage, you know what I'm saying? You get caught with that controlled, suck a little eye, look, you know a lot about weed. You gotta get the butane out of it to make the rise and all that shit. You gotta manufacture it, the weed, you know what I'm saying? So once you're doing that, it's a controlled substance. It's no longer just a herb.

Oh, cause yeah, you like process it. Hell yeah, so you process it, so. That's how they charge that. Jesus Christ, yeah, I remember talking to someone who like got pulled over and said, yeah, I was in jail for vape carters. What? Because in Philly, they really don't care. In Philly, you can get caught with,

even like years ago, I feel like they would really get you in the early 2000s, but in Philly today, if you got caught with five pounds of weed, I don't know if you'd even go to jail. Man, I'd be hearing people getting pulled over in Houston, five pounds, 20 pounds, they just taking it or like not giving a fuck. That shit would have my heart,

just because of what I went through. And like, bro, they had me on the news. They made it seem like I was just El Chapo, which I probably was on the weed shit. You know what I'm saying? You probably was. You cause the pals a lot, man. Yeah, but it's not, I'm not robbing nobody.

I wasn't harming nobody. And everybody that came to me wanted this drug that's legal in 90% of the goddamn state. Yeah, no, it's kind of bullshit. You kind of got in the right, that was like the perfect timing, man. Five years ago, you would have been, five years before that,

they probably would have booked it completely. Nah, for sure. Bro, it's still niggas doing time, bro. When I had to just go and do that, like that little month to get off the shit to beat it, it was niggas in hell. Nigas had 18 days for nine doobies. What? Yeah, I ain't gonna lie, I would've resisted

and been mad as fuck and acting a fool. Like how many fucked up? How many days for a joint sucks. Yeah, Texas is way behind, I feel like everywhere else in the country, like flying, you can fly with me. They don't give a fuck at all. They don't give a damn. They don't care at all.

They don't give a damn. Carry on all that. Do that shit in Houston. I never fly out with weed, they don't give a fuck at all. They don't give a damn. They don't care at all. They don't give a damn. Carry on all that. Do that shit in Houston. I never fly out to airport with weed. I don't care if it's one blood, I'm a smoker in the car, before I get out. Yeah, yeah.

I be like hell nah. I've been pushing till, I've chilled because I talk about it publicly. I've been pushing. If I go to Denver and come back, it's like I'll fly with a couple ounces and just, you know, pucker up my butthole through security

and just fucking go through it. But they don't care. Dude, I've had a guy one time, because I like, sometimes I'll fly with a couple ounces and just, you know, pucker up my butthole through security and just fucking go through it. But they don't care. Dude, I've had a guy one time, because sometimes I'll fly with my kids and bring, I brought a jar of peanut butter home one time. And they were like, they moved literally weed out of the way and were like, what's this? The peanut butter.

And they're like, you can't be bringing this. And I was just like, hey man, take the peanut butter. No liquids, there go, there go to your bag, all that shit. I bring a mouthwash. They go to my bag. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. So yeah. I had one guy one time give me shit when I was leaving with I had just a pack of like pre-roll joints. He's like, what are you? Why are you hiding these? I'm not hiding them.

I was like, I just put them in. I put them into things that didn't smell because I don't want to ruin the airplane. He's like, well, it's not that you have them. It's that you're hiding them from me. I'm like, I don't give a fuck that you have them, man. I was like, if you it's not that you have them, it's that you're hiding them from me. I'm like, I don't give a fuck that you have them, man. I was like, if you're gonna take them. Tia is saying, take them.

I'm like, dude, how do I say this? She got me worried about bombs on the plane. Yeah. Worry about some other shit. Dude, like, I look, bro, I don't even like heights. I ain't about to do nothing to the plane, do not harass me, leave me alone. And my jewelry always go off.

It's a good point, like, dude, I'm scared of heights. I'm like, bro, then my jewelry always go off, then I a good point. Like dude, I'm scared of heights. I'm like, bro, then my jewelry always go off and I get so fucking mad. Cause now they going through my shit. They don't know how to handle my shit. They grab your dick too, dude. They're gonna, you have to go through the thing. Yes, bro, then.

But see, I learned how to do it now. I go in and pull my pants all the way the fuck up. I don't wear jeans, buttons, nothing's gonna go off, nothing. I wear Nike tech suit, pull my shit, all the way up. Like goddamn, like, I for sure gotta with you. Pull that motherfucker up, hands up, cause they always choose the weirdest dude to be like,

then they try to run it down. You wanna do a hero, probably around, go like this, down the back, down the middle, woo. But you got some dudes, they be cool, they don't really be trying to do it like that. Some niggas make sure they go down your ass. We have a friend, dude. Dude, our friend Nate, I don't know what it is.

He was with Shane the one time. They like absolutely molested him. Then he was with me the one time. And I turned around and like, dude, they were just like all over this guy. And it keeps happening to him. It sucks, man. You gotta switch it up.

It's something. He's gotta pull his fucking pants up. I'm gonna tell him, hike your fucking pants. Although his pants are pretty hiked, so. That's a good He's got to pull his fucking pants off. I'm going to tell him, hike your fucking pants. Although, his pants are pretty hiked. So that's a good. Why do you think pulling your pants up helps? I don't know. But if I don't, it always goes red right there, like right,

like where my dick at. I'm like, what the? I'm like, who fucking with me here? Somebody's fucking with me for sure. Happened to Shannon Sharp, he said. They thought his dick was something other than a dick. And they were like, he spazzed out. I would have went home.

Maybe I could kiss my ass. All right, now I'm goingaz down. I don't know. Yeah, I can kiss my ass Right now I'm at the pool in here now should I'd be glad for them big. What the fuck is that? They don't even make me walk through the metal detectors like man just go ahead little guy You want to go with the pilot I go yeah, thanks man Give me the little pilot wings and smack me on the button. I go get on the plane little jack Damn so you can get caught with a gun in Texas, and it's not as much trouble as Thanks, shit real even if it's like a modified I don't I don't want to jail with my gun and got out they gave it back to me, but then you bet the bullets

What but it was like he was licensed though you had it in your name. Hell. No what just carrying like just carrying it Damn, they give it back. Hell. Yeah, chill. Why'd they give it back? You think it's in Philly They fucking cut it for guns cuz I'm open carry. Yeah, I think it's really been open carry you feel me so like The only time they had trip it depends what what territory you let's say if I'm on business Depending on the cop. They blow. Let's say if I'm on Bissonette, depending on the cop, they be like, oh, he's a gang member. I'm gonna take you to jail for this. Class me Mr. Minnick, cause you a gang member. But now I had so much success,

the police be pulling me over to take pictures. That's cool. And they're like, hey Max, so you don't got no registration. You wanna take pictures, I'll just for my kid. That's kinda tight. Then like I bought a track hawk. That's the most stolen car. Like, like hell cats and track hawks, demons and shit.

So they'll pull me over, make sure it's not stolen. They realize who I am and take a picture and be like, if we ever see this car stolen, we gonna get it back for you. That's nice. Hell yeah, that's the first time they was on my side. How do you feel about that? Nah, them cars get stolen every day.

They really? How do you feel about them being on your side, I'm saying? Cause they're not on my side, but they is on my side. But then I realized I'm 34, some of these kids are my age. Some of them younger than me, some of them love my music. So it'd be give and take. Yeah, dude, I never like growing up in my family, we didn't really have any cops.

My mom's cousin was a detective. But really we had zero mostly in like the immediate family there was zero. My dad was like like they did like trash So they he's always like they're a fucking pain in the ass. They pull your trucks over I never really got to interact the police people like police officers at all and then my wife When we after a couple years of dating became a cop it was the craziest thing in the fucking world She just became a cop and I got to like meet cops and talk to my wife my wife now

Just a cop she's not she retired quickly But it was she was a Philly cop for like and she had gone to school for like criminal Forensics so she was like trying to get into a lab and they're like well if you're sworn in it just whole thing She's like fucking I'll just become a cop dude. It was and dude. I had like pounds of weed in my face She would fuck around she would fuck around about it but never right she never crossed that line of like being like seriously like being like that but I'd be scared of day to cop. Yeah, it was kind of cool though because I got to like really interact with cops like a lot and get to really understand like how they taken away for show and that's all they want is for you like if they pull you over they just want you to damn, dude, like you have the hardest job ever and just really pump them up like, bro, you nobody and it's it actually is true because I like enter I like got to like, hear about what they're dealing with the shit and I'm like, it is literally the worst fucking job ever.

If you could pull it out, you turn the light on right away and interior light is the worst legal job. I say selling crack worse. Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, it'd be better if I were selling crack. If I would, you know, I would then be a cop for sure. Especially if it all came crashing down. It's like, I couldn't have benefits,

couldn't have health care. The cops, it depends on what kind of cop, because it's really cops that help the community. Like we had cops that come make sure the kids good. Be like, hey man, y'all over here, move that around, the kids coming shit like that, you know, because they in the community. It's not like you don't know them. But then we got a cop, he's a gang bang on us.

Gang bang on us, he's an ice man, he come on the block, he throw a CK, that's Crip killer to all the Crips. We'll be laughing recording him though. Nigga took me to jail jamming my music, like, yeah man. Then there was another cop, I think his name, Jordan. He was like, I just- Wait, who the Crip killer? They just made up their own thing?

No, so my block is a lot of Crips. Yeah, yeah. With the Crips and shit like that. So, oh yeah, you know, Doug. Yeah, so he would throw. He would come on our block and throw a Crip Killer. And then be telling us like, yeah, I was down the street, they killing off right now,

they buying cars, ooh, he messy, he funny though, funny. That is kind of funny. Yeah, my wife said there was a lot of that. There was people who are like, you know. Training day, rampart. Yes, my wife said there was a lot of that there was people who are like Day, yeah Yes, and like and it's one of those things where she's like there's not technically a quota But they're on your ass about they call it activity where they're like, hey man You don't have any activity and if you're going and like getting guns and all this stuff

You're like your promotions just kind of awaiting you but then there's like then like, you know Cuz they get down on people like yeah, he's a fucking bum. He doesn't do anything But but my wife, she's small, she's like a small lady and she would just, what she would get on is like, when she would see kids that aren't in car seats, she would devastate, she would like, no mercy on that shit. And other than that, she didn't really give a fuck

about anything, but she was just making sure people weren't doing anything crazy. And the domestics are, that's the weird part, when you gotta go into like fights between couples. Oh yeah. That shit sucks, man. Hell yeah. I hate arguments. You know what's crazy though?

Like the old I get paying taxes and shit like that, I still got this mindset of the police have to be woo woo. But it's not really like that, bro. Like not no more, bro. And it's crazy, like a lot of people I went to school with, started to see like they police officers. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that.

Like it ain't that bad. It's just like when you against the system. Cause like not all of them fucked up. Just like not every person or every gangbanger you meet is fucked up. Like not every rapper is a stuck up narcissist, dumb ass, they're bigger than the world. But 99% of them for sure.

Yeah. That's like cops. There's like, there are a lot of them that were like, oh yeah, you're the exact stereotype. People talk about cops. There's a lot of them, for sure. Yeah, that's like cops. There are a lot of them that were like, oh yeah, you're the exact stereotype people talk about with cops. There's a lot of those guys. I ain't gonna lie though. If I was a cop, I would be catching niggas on point. I know every day they would hate me.

They would hate me, because I know, I'm like, yup, I know what them niggas doing. Come here, nigga, what y'all doing? There was a guy, what you gonna call it? There was these dudes in Baltimore that were doing, they were called backpack pops. Where they was, you know, and it's like, it in Baltimore that were doing they were called backpack pops where they was you know And it's like it is kind of like they must know what's going on They see a guy with like a little like school bag or a backpack

They were just because it's like if you see a dude who's not school age with a backpack He's selling fire drugs like no one's walking around with a school bag besides me. I carry my laptop in there So but it's one of them they would just pull up and be like get out of and they were just ditched the backpack I'm like sweet and just take it and they were robbing people doing that Nah cops better a lot like I don't have cops pull up take lean from me take my guns They took for being Connie. I took $100 from me this last time when I had went to jail But I was already get the fuck out. I let y'all keep that little shit, but they be doing it really Yeah, change jewelry laptops. They take it off. Especially your guns

Yeah, like guns and drugs like sometimes like you'll get booked and you'll think, well shit, I ain't gonna lie. If I got three pints of lean, you take me to jail, take that lean, bro. I don't want you to put that lean on me. Now I got to get a lawyer and fight that lean. Yeah, true, true. You might as well don't even put that felony on me. Like I beat seven felonies. Like I can carry a pistol legally. I don't have no felonies. Oh wow. So you actually, oh that makes sense. Hell yeah. Beat set. Was it all at the same time or is it? So with this Rico was four, then I had another three when I caught my first pistol case. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Like you ever went hunting, like hunting for like deers and shit? I never did. My dad was big into hunting. I never done it. Well I was big in hunting with just the ops. So I was hunting the ops, you know what I'm saying? In the middle of hunting the ops. That's when I caught my first fucking pistol case, man. They just caught you with a gun on you? No, I'm so stupid, my rookie ass. This is like my, I ain't gonna say rookie ass,

but I was like young, like 17. We seen the car. Well, first we went in the park looking for him. We was gonna fight him. Whoa, whoa, let me get in the car, boom. I see him, he put his head out the window. I'm like, oh, nigga, it's good for him. We was gonna fight him. We were with him. Then we get in the car, boom. I see him, he put his head out the window. I'm like, oh, nigga, it's good. Come on, we gonna follow him.

Police get behind me. I had just bought a car off the side of Highway 6 for like $2,000. But I had a paper tag, but it was a bullshit paper tag. It was a cardboard and written on it with a pen. So the police get behind us. I'm like, oh shit, what the actual fuck? So I'm driving for a little bit.

So- You wrote your tag in on a pen on cardboard? I didn't know better, I didn't, I bought it from the dude. And he sold me a lemon and it ended up fucking up. So we get, so boom, I get to the Coda set. It's an old ass car, I'm like, I got him. I got my little brother in the car, they play football, varsity, I don't want to fuck up

their life, because you know, I knew I was going to be a rapper, so I'm like, I got him. I got my little brother in the car. They play football, varsity. I don't want to fuck up their life. Cause you know, I knew I was going to be a rapper. So I was like, yeah, let me hit someone under my belt or something. But nah, for real, so I'm nervous. I'm like, man, my mama going to kill me if I got my brother out here. He got scouts coming to the game.

I'm like, fuck it, give me the gun. Put it on my waist. I hopped out, put my hands up. He like, hey man, chill, just relax. As soon as he came to me, I started running, so I'm gone. As I'm running, I just feel, I'm getting dizzy, shit like that, then I just fall.

I had a Nike track jacket on, and he grabbed the string. So while I was running, that shit was choking me. Hell yeah, I had a motherfucking, I fall, boom. Had the pistol on my hip, you know what I'm saying? Falled the pistol on my hip, they put me I'm saying? Falled the pistol on my hip. They put me in the handcuffs, but he an old cop. Then some young cops came. They like, oh yeah, you the ramp,

what's with the, beat your motherfucking ass. They searched the car, he said, didn't smell like weed. He was gonna write me a ticket. So I did all that shit for nothing. Then they didn't even find the pistol. This was like 2009, I had on purple skinny jeans. So the pistol go down to my skinny jeans. It's so funny.

I'm in the back of the car and I wiggle the gun out of my skinny jeans, put it back on my shoe, keep the gun up under the seat, like that, you feel me? Yeah. They check me in, boom. So I'm this guy, so my only charge was a bathing arrest. Oh, okay. I'm like, it's cool.

Man, next morning I'm in the detox tank, the cop come out, hey, you're not going nowhere fast. And I knew, I knew he found the gun. Oh, could they say it was yours though? Hell yeah, he put it on me. But I'm like, how, you didn't bring me in with it? Like, you know what I'm saying? But this what happened.

So I got class B misdemeanor this summer. Hell nah, I got like three felonies. First one was death of a firearm from a sheriff. Then they tried to save the burglar habitation. Then they tried to lean me to other burglaries. So I'm in jail, I call my mama, tell her what's going on. I call my brother, he like, where you got that gun from? I'm like, man, come up here, I ain't gonna tell you

on the phone. I told him like, yo nigga, this the gun that Shemonte gave me, woo woo woo. My mama's a, she's a daycare teacher. Come to find out, Shemonte ain't really breaking nobody house. He stole that gun from his auntie that's a sheriff. And I ain't know that.

My mama know his auntie, cause my mama was watching his auntie daughter at school. My mama told his auntie what happened, she got all those charges dropped. Oh, that's kind of nice. Hell yeah. Damn, he stole a fucking sheriff's gun. His dumb ass.

He was like, yeah, like he was trying to be down with us and shit like that. He like, yeah, man, I got this gun. I've been hitting nicks, I'm down. I'm like, yeah, whatever. So he wasn't, he just. He wasn't even my friend like that. He was my brother in the homey.

He was always wanting to hang around me and shit like whatever. So he did that shit the whole time. He stole from his auntie, that's lame. Yeah. You don't do that shit. You don't take from your people, you feel me? But thank God, it was his auntie, you feel me?

Yeah, that's probably why they're kicking such a cloud of dust over, because it was a sheriff's car. How the fuck did he get this? Yeah, so other than that, I don't really got too much criminal history. I probably got like, getting caught with a gun and some weed. I got like seven pistol cases. That's just because I had weed, you feel me?

But other than that, I'm not no super criminal. Just know that I always had some weed and a gun on me in Texas, that's no one must fuck. True, but that's the killer combo when you have the gun and weed. That's when they kind of really get it. Yeah, yeah, that's what they make you like. But that's so small though.

But see, this is why Texas, this is why weed not illegal. Do you want your guns or do you want marijuana? You know, we are gun state Texas live by they gonna stand on they're gonna everybody you feel me? So yeah, what do you think about all the new guns with all like the like the pre-made the ones you can make yourself and 3d Printing all that stuff like the guy who killed the CEO said he like just had a 3d printing gun I mean cuz she's the motherfuckers. They're not traceable, so you gonna smack shit up all day. You know what I'm saying? And like, unless they find like the GSR on you,

like the gunpowder or some shit like that, shit, that's dangerous, bro, cause most guns got serial, so you can know, okay, I caught you with this gun, this gun was using this murder cause of the serial. But if it's a ghost gun, it's out of the, then if you got a ghost gun with a switch. Yeah, you're in jail for out of the, then if you got a ghost gun with a switch. Yeah.

You're in jail for like 20 years, aren't you? Like, so I think it's mandatory minimum of 10 years for a switch, but I know that you can get a binary switch too, that's legal, where it should like, oh, but you gotta go to a special gun class for that. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, switch is crazy. And that's all right, a lot of these young niggas,

that's what they got, switches. Dude, terrifying. And. And that's all right. A lot of these young niggas, that's what they got, Switches. Dude, terrifying. And them hoes fast like. Like man, imagine a premature young nigga. They can't fight, and that's a punk. Never been hit in the face, a broken arm. Wanna be a gangster and got a gun. And he's feeling mad, come on you.

Yeah, dude. Like you can't hit your target with like, it's hard as hell to keep. Like, you know what I'm saying? Keep it straight't hit your target with it, like it's hard as hell to keep. Like, you know what I'm saying? Keep it straight, yeah. Yeah, it seems like it's just never, it's just like spraying bullets in the general direction. See, I'm older, like back when we was stuck in,

I ain't never had no switch, we ain't need no shit like that. Like, you know what I'm saying, I know how to boom, boom. Yeah. But at the same time, like that switch shit is like, that's scary. Yeah, dude. Well, that's fucked up. Yeah, it was crazy how the guy apparently printed his own gun just print his own Yeah, a lot of that shit going on with seeing Texas you don't gotta do all that long as you don't got nothing

I'm feeling you go to the gun store. Yeah Like it's not hard to get a gun for real cuz if you get caught with a ghost gun, that's probably even worse Yeah, untrace. Yeah, I guess they're saying yeah, cuz they're like well if you're going an untraceable gun, what are you doing? Right. Why do you want that? Yeah, that's crazy. Damn dude. Well, dude, what else is going on? Shit man chilling My clothing line, you know, I'm saying persona relaunching that on On the fifth, you know, I'm saying I got a lot of of big collabs coming with that, you know what I'm saying?

Shit, oh yeah, I signed the artist. Did you really? Well, a couple artists, Cartel Boat. I just got my joint venture with Warner Brothers Records. Nice, man. So my label is at Warner Brothers. That's cool. Oh yeah, because you just did a fucking,

you just did an album, like, you just released a what? But that was independent, so look, as far as Max O'Kring, me, I'm 100% independent. Okay. But my label, where I got my artists at, is with Warner Brothers. That's cool. As far as Max O'Cream, me, I'm 100% independent. But my label where I got my artists at is with Warner Brothers. That's cool. How does that work?

Work either like, so you get a joint venture. You know what I'm saying? You can get exclusive or nonexclusive. So you get a nonexclusive JB. They gonna give you some money. They gonna back your artists. But let's say you're at Warner Brothers. If it's nonexclusive, you could go to Empire.

You could go to Interscope. You can go to Capital with your same imprint, cause none exclusive. But if they give it to you exclusively, you know what I'm saying? Now, your admin is they admin. You know what I'm saying? Now, your staff is they staff.

You can still build your own staff and they're going to open up your budget, cause now you can't go nowhere else and you investing in business with them. Yeah, well what do they try to do? Just get like a piece of your touring? It's like what's, where do they put it? Nah, so they don't get nothing to me.

Yeah. So what my artist is, so I walk in with my percentage, they take their percentage, and then now you actually get the bigger machine. So instead of me having to wake up every morning because he signed to me, okay here, here's the money for your video, here's the money for this and that.

He got a set budget, plus he get the advance from the label. So it's basically like you signed to me, but my admin is Warner Brothers. Even where do they collect their advance on if you're not selling CD? Like nobody sells CDs anymore. I mean, so that also is streaming.

So it's different platforms. So Spotify, Apple Music, you know what I'm saying? Shit like that. YouTube, then you got different syncs, then you got publishing. You know what I'm saying? You got mechanical royalties. It's all different kind of royalties.

You know what I'm saying? So a publishing would be like, let's say if you start a TV show, you put on Netflix. And then like you want to use my song at the beginning. So that'd be on the publishing side. So I get the publishing check. You know what I'm saying?

I could be independent with my publishing or I So I get a publishing check. You know what I'm saying? I could be independent with my publishing or I can go get a deal with my publishing. So my artist, he right now, he's with Warner Brothers. You know what I'm saying? But we go get a publishing check somewhere else too. You know what I'm saying? So never, oh yeah, another thing.

Never sign your pub with the recluse that you at. Always, you don't want to keep everything in one house because when shit come crashing down, it come crashing down. You want to keep shit spread around the shit, have checks and balances on your shit. Yeah. So you just, when did you start a label?

Shit. I started a label in 2019. I had one artist, it was called Crank Click Global. I banded that one and I started Persona. I had a label for like four years but I didn't signed my first artist, like legit legit to it until last year, Cartel Bo. He going up everywhere,

took him and rolling out with me. You know what I'm saying? He got songs, he got some of Bossman D-Lo coming. He got some shit with Big X to plug, like hip hop and check him out. That's awesome. Everybody think he's Brian Pumper though. They be calling him. He looks like Brian Pumper. Shit, that's and check him out. That's awesome. Yeah, everybody think he's Brian Pumper though. They be calling his ass Brian.

He looks like Brian Pumper. Shit, that's what they be saying. I ain't know where the fuck Brian Pumper was when I see him now, now y'all tripping. That's so, Brian Pumper might be the funniest dude. There's somebody crack some eggs on his head and he just sit there. Something, yeah, he like lost,

he was like a big adult, he was like a male porn star. I know he- And just lost his fucking mind. Yeah, tripping. Yeah, true. Yeah, he kind of lost it, but he is funny. He makes really fucking very... His videos are funny as shit.

Like comedy videos? Yeah, I don't know if he's trying to be funny or what, but they're genuinely funny. He got in trouble because he was, from what I heard, he's doing professional porn, and then when you're doing that, you can't fuck around on your own apparently, because you need to be tested, all that stuff right and what they say he did I don't know if it's true or not, but they're saying that he was just like

Hawking people down on the subway he would get he was hawk ladies down the subway and be like I'll give you 500 bucks Right now we'll film a porn tape And you know he was getting people to do it But he wasn't like testing or anything and then he'd go back to like a legit studio And they're like bro. You can't be doing that here So that's what they say his uh, definitely dabbling don't know what's happening Well, dude, thanks man, I think we're they were good bro. Thanks for coming and doing this You already know man any time right appreciate it man. You crushed it boy