Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast - Ep 565 - The Entertainer (feat. Steve Crawford)

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

Support the D.A.W.G.Z. @ patreon.com/MSsecretpod Go See Matt Live @ mattmccusker.com/dates Go See Shane Live @ shanemgillis.com Support Steve @entertainerstevecrawford on instagram Please go to OPTIMUM NOCTIS tomorrow Tuesday July 1 at Creek https://www.creekandcave.com/events/optimum-noctisvb6dfszg51bdq3z3wnu4ptljon3iu0adxfcvjm7qctb Good morning everybody. Sorry for the lack of cast last week. The D.A.W.G.Z. were bizzy. We'll have 2 this week and maybe even a special surprise to make up for it. On this ep Matt casted with The Legend Steve Crawford. Hypnotist, Magician, Comedian, Dare Devil, Actor, and more. Have a great week. Please enjoy. God Bless. Get DUDE Wipes at Amazon and retailers nationwide. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Wow, wow, wow, Wes. Actor, magician, hypnotist, escape artist, television personality. There are a lot of parts to make up Steve Crawford. Steve and his team of experienced professionals would like an opportunity to tailor a program to meet your needs. Hey guys, welcome to Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast. We're doing a little road episode. I been Ontario California recording a comedy special but we are we're recording an intro for my newest special that'll come out eventually and I met you Steve Steve Crawford dude great to be here lifetime entertainer you that was a crazy day we had well I mean yeah it was mostly you you're doing stunts and shit this guy don't let him fool you

he wow wow you got actually got hurt a little bit injured your ribs are messed So that should be nothing to you. You're a stunt. How long you doing stunts for exactly? That's the problem So now I broke it down and sword so I did a daredevil stunts on the road for 30 40 years and That was first state fairs festivals. How'd you get into that? You know I was a kid I had a childhood hobby of magic. My mother told me about the movie Houdini with Tony Curtis. And I watched this thing. And I watched him get locked in the water tank.

And his appendix burst. And he dies. But something affected me differently than it did the other people watching. And it grabbed me. You watched the Houdini. So you saw him die in the tank. And you're like, I'm going to carry the torch.

I did. I'm like, oh my gosh. I want to do what this guy's doing. That is so cool. I mean, if you're going to die, let's die in a water tank in front of an audience. We're all going to die. But didn't plan to die and didn't die. But I was lucky. I had a locksmith that lived next door. He taught me how to pick locks. And I really became a big Houdini fan.

Your name, your stage name was Housini, right? As a child, I went all the way in those days, actually all the way to college, Houdini right as a child I went all the way in those days actually all the way to college Houdini names, you know with a Somebody enie everybody enie. So I went with Housini Can you hope my beautiful assistant is here? Would you hold the microphone? I'll show you one of the first tricks I learned was a quick one Do you ever use mail is always women whenever like sexy boys? I think you gotta hold it of closer somebody tell me that

All right, here we go a little dollar bill trick So a lot of kids start with this stuff. Yeah library picture of Barbara Bush. I don't know if you can see that Anyways, I know we we fold the dollar up in this trick What we want to do is make it come out backwards or different or upside down But in this case it actually changes So money didn't really become the motivation to do it but it kept me doing it You got the philosopher stone you could do alchemy transfer the lead into gold we could do that It's true. I will say I picked up many many dates as a child pretending to be a real wizard And I could do real magic and read her mind and I you wouldn't believe it is

Magic is a great way to meet girls. Don't they I was I wanted to ask you about that that seems I watched the real of You that was the Oklahoma? What what was that the hockey team right? Oh? You saw when my sports events during the laws Yes, my question is so when you're a magician because you were you're a magician actor stunt man You do it all you're a January. You're a general entertainer a real entertainer everyone thinks they're an entertainer now, but you're the real deal 40 years of locking in the water getting locked underwater deal 40 years of locking in the water getting locked underwater acting you know it was a funny thing when I when I was

Growing up. I was the only entertainer that I knew and I mean I met people who helped me in the business, but You know I did my shows and and now I look at social media and everybody's an entertainer I'm like I'm the only one out there not entertaining anymore. It's No world the world has changed everybody's in it well. Here's here's the question so with the magic You're saying is a good way to meet girls When's the first time you converted magic skills into just some I don't know how graphic you want to get so often Well, I've got one true story And it's it's it's a no joke. There's a victims protection order on file in Oklahoma hold up No joke, there's a victims protection order on file in Oklahoma. Hold up, on you or the person?

The girl who had a fatal attraction. And it was it was it was this that in 81 I opened for Alice Cooper. I was his opening act. We did some illusions. And I was a good guy backstage. I met with the people who won the radio passes to come backstage, you know, and friendly. And the band members were sleeping with people and all that. I didn't get any of that. And one of the rules I had...

How old were you back then? Well, I was very young. I was 18, 19 years old. Okay. It's crazy. But yeah, one of my earlier gigs back in college days, I was in college when we hooked up for that. But I had been meeting girls in clubs and telling them I was psychic. So I felt bad about that. This even in high school, and would read their mind and of course it worked, you know They're just I've got this connection, but I had a rule

I would never go out with a girl that I met at the show Because what they see in the show is not who you are. I mean you're you're playing a role You're a daredevil stunt guy with security around you and I mean you're playing this image, right? Mm-hmm, or you're a funny guy in a showed whatever it is So those people don't know you so and I made I broke the rule one time and boy it was crazy young lady You can look up, but it's still in the file court case. But yeah, she Tried to come on hard to me to marry me all of a sudden

I'm not what, we just met. You gave her one taste. She lost her mind. And exactly. And I told her her words to me were, you know what? She said, I should have killed you when I saw you at the state fair in September. I'm like, what?

Whoa. And she grabbed the wheel of my little convertible that was icy out and crashed it and then broke in my house later, stole stuff. There were gas stoves. In those days, I was a single guy. And turned on all the gas, blew out the pilot lights. house later stole stuff. There were gas stoves in those days. I was a single guy and turned on all the gas blew out the pilot flights and uh, and then and attacked me through the

back door. So everybody on our city block there went to court and we won and bro, but I learned my lesson. How many times you pipe her down? One time just was once. You got to taste the amazing world and I just don't know. I don't know what to say about it, except I don't think it's a good idea to co-mingle. That makes sense, that's kinda smart. So you were that smart, that young to keep it separate. Cause that's a good insight to know,

like dude, this is all glitz and glam. Yeah, yeah, it's true. Learned the lesson. So I really wanted to ask you about that, cause doing the county fairs must have been crazy. Like what were some of the stunts, what was like the craziest stunt you did at like a county fair?

You know, everybody had a favorite. And so I, at state fairs, primarily we had about 25 state fairs starting in September through November. West Palm Springs, Florida kicks off early February and Shreveport, Louisiana, my favorite fair, but that's that was ran right into Thanksgiving so there was a ton of fairs and so we had ground acts, family shows, animal circus, kids circus, circus sideshow, illusion, so we had that going that I booked a secondary act which was the

daredevil stunt so one of those was locked upside down in the water torture cell that Houdini inspired. Strapped to roller coaster tracks in a straight jacket, had to dive out of the way right before it crashes through from a screen. And yeah, hanging from burning ropes, straight jackets in the air. But there were other markets for swimming pool events. Anybody with a backyard pool could hire me, bring their padlocks and chain me up to weights and throw me the pool and if you had five thousand dollars I was available to do it and

some close calls but we did never made it through that what was a close call well there were a lot of close calls I I wouldn't even know where to begin yeah I don't know what was it here's the question some accidents someone hired you at like their pool to escape and you died in their pool What's the deal with that? I would sue myself So I had a two million dollar liability policy that if myself or anyone else was ever injured at one of my shows That it would pay off. So my first step would be sue myself because I was injured at my show It's kind of does it come my plan anyway get rich off So what were the babes like at the county fair is I know Alice Cooper obviously probably crawling but like the county fair

What's that? Well? exactly Use your imagination, you know and smaller the fair the smaller the town. Yeah, I love small time from a small town. So But people are they didn't be honest, you know, we joke about that and there was a lot of flirty, you know, horror types, I guess you could say, but there was a lot of very, very sweet people. And I mean it sincerely, my favorite guests, they came every year, every year, just really good people,

honestly, from this community. That's cool, because I always wonder about that, because that's like, you kept it to the code that whole time. You just only broke once for that one lady? Absolutely, you know, I think it was, my fingers, I always practice with my fingers you want to see a finger trick you want to do something all right I'm gonna have you lay your mic down you got to do this one with me would you hold this one so actually

magicians we do use our hands to exercise a little bit to get our magic going if you do this we hold your hands like this clasp your fingers together So actually magicians, we do use our hands to exercise a little bit to get our magic going. If you do this, hold your hands like this, clasp your fingers together. Now wiggle your first finger, wiggle your little finger. Good, you're very good, talented yourself. Okay, now separate.

Now we're gonna go down. Now can you keep turning to the, go all the way out. It's a little bit of stretch. If you'd watched this, you'd have tried it at home to get all the way out. Now reverse your arms and lock them like that. Step, kinda hold them up high. There you go. Now wiggle the first finger and the little hangar

Linda Blair Tommy that one actually Twist your arms around right? Oh, I didn't do I couldn't do that. I didn't either I didn't do that. I didn't either. You're right, I tried. You're never gonna believe it guys. This episode of Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast is brought to you by Dude Wipes. If you're still dry wiping with toilet paper,

it's time to show your b-hole some respect and upgrade to Dude Wipes. Why? Because Dude Wipes are wet and extra moisture cleans away that dry that never what dry never could they leave no room for dingleberries and stray butt crumbs that TP might miss plus they're extra large and designed for adults dude wipes tackle the mess without any fuss and flushable design makes it clean up a

breeze no more endless rolls or settling for less than perfect wipes Think about the last time you really could have used dude wipes They're good for cleaning up come Dude wipes best clean pants down available on Amazon and major retailers nationwide You want to hear a county fair story? Yeah, please. You got time? Would you come back? You're so good at this.

I love it. Tripped with a couple of jokers and hold on. We're missing one. We're used to standing up. What kind of comedian sits down? I told you I would stand. I have no problem standing. So I've got a story how I lost some money

from a guy running a little scam, a little gambling game at a fair and it went like this. I thought being a magician I'm going to win all these carnival games, right? Yeah. This guy had three cards at his game. One of those was a joker that he was using. He had a second card and it was a joker and then he had a third card, which was actually an ace. He said, this is the money card. Now what you gotta do is keep your eye on this ace. All right, here we go. I noticed he made a shifty move.

I thought he put the ace on the bottom. When I guessed the bottom, well, actually I lost my first dollar. Now, then he said this, he said, look, I'm not gonna mix the three cards. I'm gonna leave them in the same sequence, the three and right, now Now give you a second guess. Now I said it was the top card, which cost me a dollar.

I said, I knew if it wasn't the bottom and had to be the middle and well, that would cost me a dollar. I said, okay, now you're using more than three cards. He said, that'll cost you a dollar. I said, you've taken the ACE out of the game. He said, well, he said, that'll cost you a dollar. Anyway, I owed him five bucks. Here's where he got me. He said, look, there's an ACE'll cost you a dollar. Anyway, I owed him five bucks. Here's where he got me.

He said, look, there's an ace, would you hold that one? He said, here's a joker. He said, if you can still tell me the name of the last card, if you hadn't forgotten it and all this, when you're five, double or nothing, you get double your money. I said it was a joker. He said I owed him $10.

So I did learn, watch the games that you play at the carnivals while you're on that subject Yeah, yes, you ever beef with any carnies because that seems like You have a beef with any of the carnival folks. No, exactly. There was a little What was the code if you ever got in trouble with a guest you call her out? Was it Rufus? I can't remember now. It's been a while since I've been to that market But all the carnies jump in and help you really they do they watch each other They watch your back the entertainers back. That was one of the first things I learned That's kind of a family. It's kind of cool. Absolutely. Yeah, so what would you do then?

So if you were you're on the road like that and you know, you weren't Like, you know taking advantage of the babes not in like a bad way, but I'm saying they're all they're plentiful I would imagine what would you do? You just chill all day and do magic like you're talking about I'm sorry at the after the show Yeah, yeah, what would you do? There was no break at a fair? You're you know you open up in the afternoon you do some shows you run them into the night and and then you go back And you're just wore out. You know you've been outdoors all day typically a lot of indoor events Yeah, and go back to your room and hide Really I'll get some rest because you got to do it again the next day when the fair ends on a Sunday night

You got to pack your Tear down higher help. Yeah, big tear down load your trailers You're heading on down to the next one So what about the one the one thing I want to ask you when we started is like what's the relationship like between a magician? and a magician's assistant That seems like it's an erotic. I don't only keep like hammering on this, but it seems like an erotic situation like how do you handle this it could be? It's all you keep it in the back of your head so Unfortunately, see they never knew they never knew my thoughts. No, I actually very respectful. Yeah, we'd hired dancers

We would hire people that you know Were there for the art and did a good job and honestly we became good friends. I never made a move on an assistant. But there were some I certainly liked. I think they liked me but we just left it at that. You're a professional as hell. I guess that's how you do it for 40 years, man. Otherwise.

40 years. It was that long till I could get out of it. And I did comedy clubs in the 80s. Is there anything about that? No." Get to Toronto's main venues like Budweiser Stage and the new Rogers Stadium with Go Transit. Thanks to Go Transit's special online e-ticket fairs, a $10 one-day weekend pass offers unlimited travel on any weekend day or holiday, anywhere along the Go network. And the weekday group passes offer the same weekday travel flexibility across the network,

starting at $30 for two people and up to $60 for a group of five. Buy your online Go pass ahead of the show at gotransit.com slash tickets. So I had three comedy club acts and it was an agent that convinced me to do this. Keeping in mind I'm an actor, I wanted to be a comedian, but I never really was that funny.

I mean, honestly, so I didn't think. So we developed three acts that we booked into the comedy clubs, and one was a pickpocket comedy thing, and one was a monologue with some magic. And the third one is the reason I got out of doing comedy clubs. I had a problem with myself doing this with anybody. I went right in as a headliner. I think a comedy club, you need people to start in the beginning,

an opener, a middleer, you know, and then you work your way up and you got real talent comedians out there. But I had an act that just booked the year up like that right off the bat, right in as a headliner because there was no choice but to put it there and what Wyatt booked was the ticket sales and it's the hypnosis show. So I became a certified clinical hypnotist. Oh that's you major in psychology. I major, it was actually an acting theater major with a minor in psychology but then I became a member of the National Guild of Hypnotists and I went into these sessions where we learned how to hypnotize people and I Screwed them up. I messed with them. You had to work with real people right and tell them that their watch is gone

Well, I would really steal their watch and then I would touch their eyes and then put my fingers here It's how you're gonna feel something touch you touch you and then I would touch one I was doing magic on these people, right? and then when we came out all the guests are sharing the stories of what happened and the certifiers are like, what? What happened? He did what? And you know, even with kids, we hypnotize kids make, but honestly, people are crying. They're talking about their problems. I thought I would never be a doctor. I could never be a clinical hypnotist at the shows. People will get hypnotized. But in the shows, it was animals.

So yes, a comedian to me is not a hypnotist or vice versa. That a comedian is a comedian. And so here we are in there, booked as the headliner, because you gotta do a lengthy show. You gotta bring people up an hour, and it's gotta be in that spot, and it was a very popular act. So there was a change at the end of the eighties where there were less comedy

clubs. So I got in for commercial reasons again, we, and I like to switch things up cause I get bored, you know, change the market. Some, uh, and we'd, the clubs are going down. And so I had an opportunity to stay on. And I think I heard that jokers was one of the clubs we were working with wanted now their people to go with them full-time or something There were some changes going on and I thought you know what? There's some great comedians that I met while I was out there and those guys they deserved the comedy clubs

So I left alone so I left it. I got out of there and principle man, you know So what were the show so you said what you would hypnotize people and steal their stuff? So pickpocketing was actually a separate thing but in the when I was referring to when we were practicing with real people and real problems we would go into a room with them alone as part of your training to get certified as a clinical hypnotist yeah to help you with problems and I just couldn't resist I'm like oh my gosh you tell them their watch is gone and now they don't see it and you show them a coin and you tell them It's a different coin and they believe was it if I was it work in these tests. Well, this is all through mental

Program rat you relax a person hypnosis works this way you get some in a very relaxed state of mind They go to an alpha pattern and now you can speak to the subconscious mind You don't have to go to a clinical hypnotist to try some tricks at home. For example If you're worried about remembering something tomorrow a better word is recall because it's always in there, but you want to be able to recall So you relax into this like you're falling asleep, right? very relaxed and then you look and you picture the shower curtain and Tell yourself when I see this shower curtain this thought will pop in my mind. So you won't forget it Yeah, and watch the trick to this is the fun thing about it shower curtain, this thought will pop in my mind. So you won't forget it.

And watch, the trick to this, the fun thing about it is this, the next day, a year later, 20 years later, when you see the shower curtain, it will pop this trigger in this thought. And you go, wow. Then you begin to realize, oh, this stuff really works. It's not all just a show. I mean, a lot of it is a show but that you can really do that or

The subconscious mind is so amazing most of us have an internal clock in the subconscious mind you tell yourself I need to wake up at a certain time as you fall asleep Watch if you don't wake up either at that time sometimes on the minute But usually just a little before because you know you got to be up at that time. Yeah, your brain will wake you up So yes, it's about relaxing and getting into the subconscious. Gotcha. What was like some of the crazier things you did hypnotizing people? In the shows?

Well, making people rigid, laying them on two chairs and standing on their body. It was not a magic trick. It looked like one, but they're so rigid. And then a friend of mine. Dr Roy Bellows was hit with his next I heard he's in court or somebody came back later and said that they had some back injuries I'm a stand on the back through that went out Well, you stand on the front you put their feet on one chair and their head here and there and then you walk on their body It's a classic. It's been around

Women are just men. Well, that depends on your fetish. I don't know. But I might try it tonight. I might try to jump on a lady during my hours. Jump right on her belly. It's squisher. Hypnosis. But yeah, it's a lot of fun. They become space aliens. They, you know, raise fun acts in the shows. Yeah. We were tempted to use the hypnosis for like evil purposes not not a women I mean guys whatever just like tricking people get

like a clone army going you know what's really weird about that is people ask you to have you ever used your lock picking skills yeah true you know haven't you ever attempted to break in it no I mean you could take a brick and throw it through the window tomorrow if you really want to break in? No, I mean, you could take a brick and throw it through the window tomorrow if you really want to break in. It doesn't change you at all. Yeah. Well, every locksmith knows how to kind of pick locks. Sure. They're like, well, no, I don't want to break it into where you don't need to pick locks to break it somewhere if you want to break in, but we

don't want to break in anywhere. You really don't change it. And hopefully, the people that are that do take advantage of their skills, like pickpocketing I'll admit as a kid we used to go down the street and take people's wallets and practice and stuff And I'm like I steal from anybody, you know, I get together money back Yeah, we wanted to practice on strangers and we did I'm like I can't do this. How do you pick pocket? What's the well if you don't have a if you were watching you ever watch on? Do you have a buckle straw with a strap on it?

Over there, I can't see what you're, nobody got, so you know, give me your hand, so somebody got a watch right here, you grab here, and you literally pull back. Oh, you pop the strap. The shank, and you squeeze it, and when you pull it away, they don't feel it. So you look for that style watch as a first choice,

and it was in my Comedy Club act, I'd bring the person up, and then I would wave it in front of their face, it's okay, I'm gonna hypnotize you. You're getting sleepy. And then we'll try a post hypnotic suggestion. The watch is looking familiar to you. And they're like, oh, that's my watch. So it was inherently funny.

Yeah. And then I would have him type my hands by my back. And it's an old routine. Harry Keller, I think the magician invented where you pull your hand out and back in over. So I'm flashing the guy's wallet behind his back and show it and flashing this and flashing that So take it and then return their keys or something at the end as a finale We had an occasion in a comedy club once which caused a real issue is I added a new bit

So I walked into the audience and I grabbed the proper watch and started pick Actually, let me go with you. Would you mind helping me? And took a different guy, but I had this guy's watch. So that finally, the new change, the new change in this act was at the end, after returning this guy's stuff, everybody laughed at me. I point to the guy in the audience, hey, don't laugh. I got yours too. And then next year round of applause, right? I forgot I'd taken it. It was a brand new act. It was in my pocket and I left the place where these guys nice watch. I'm like, Oh my gosh, I got it. So

I actually had to call the manager of the comedy club and put out an announcement and somehow he got a call from the right guy. I think I was at that show and my watch disappeared and I, you know, you got your what? and we gave him his watch back everybody thought was funny and quite amusing I don't think they knew she was part of the act or not though it is nice to know if you know if you ever need to you could be a master thief obviously you wouldn't do that but it's very true absolutely true there's nothing and there really is nothing no lock that can't be open or there's no item you can't escape from. Handcuffs?

I know you can escape. You said, you set the record for escaping from handcuffs? Yes, sir. I wasn't going to mention it. But I have a world record. Well, that's boastful. So, less than two seconds. In front page news, Steve broke a world record with the escape.

We're ready. I've got the stopwatch. Okay, go, Jim. Oh, yeah. Go ahead. We're ready. I've got the stopwatch. Okay, go. Yeah. Let me see these. All right. Very good. Look at the stopwatch, Steve. 1.47 seconds and that is less than two seconds is a record. Congratulations. And I only sent you one picture of, you know, I just want to share that when I was stepping away from escapes getting older just a few

years back, I started doing something unusual for law enforcement groups. I actually got a phone call from former chief of police and he was in Oklahoma and he calls me and he says, Steve, we've got a problem. People are getting out of the handcuffs. They're getting out of their jails and they're escaping these things and they're turning the stuff on the cops. They're leaving them for dead or killing them.

One, we need your help. And they had a budget, so they wanted to pay me to come in and teach them. I said, well, I'll teach you how to get out of things. Not just to show you how easy it is to do this stuff, once you know, is I will show you how to escape from padlocks, handcuffs, things with items around you. And then I'll do it after a search.

And then I'll do it without touching anything, which is a matter of, well, so we went with two things on the cop car, and I've got some photos I can send you, is a piece of wire from the windshield wiper Sometimes I put a person up by the windshield wiper and you take this flat piece of metal you can shim the cuffs open They're out through the notches. You're not really picking the locks. Which are how do you get the piece of metal again? Where's it at off of a windshield wiper? So you'll see some photos

I'll send you this later today of me holding a windshield wiper out in front of a police station and then actually with it in front of the cops showing them how to use that and then a piece of metal that I found in the back seat of a spring of a car if you could dig in to get it. And then another one was picking padlocks with the stem from reading glasses or glasses, which is actually two pieces. You get a shim, you get a, and then there's something completely different, which is going through the shank of a padlock. So anyway, I'm doing this stuff and we go from local police to, I was connected, put up with an organization that was with the criminal justice system and it was called the MacGyver 101. And it was a three day weekend. They had a guy that was a narcotics federal

Bureau of Narcotics there and another guy and weapons at three. I was the only one that was a non Mmm officer so I don't know if you can actually Google on YouTube somebody put it on there once the handcuffs escape and a prison escape I don't know how to escape from the prison. There are several ways So I was I gave him one of the methods that with certain cells you can use that people would take shampoo bottle, toilet paper, remember it's things around you,

and block the bolt hole. And when you slammed some of the cells, it seemed like it shut. That's not the, I don't give away my best secrets, believe it or not. I really don't. So this is the one I gave them. And the cops said, oh, we had to happen. We actually had a guy get out of the cell that way You know this stuff's really going on. Yeah, and that's why I'm not afraid to share it. I think the best

But we were shut down and I will tell you this too. So we're doing these federal things I know we got to go quick probably but I I actually we're good Told them I had a second hobby and it was sneaking into places Testing security of places so I was higher trying to make I always wanted to go to stores this like show them how much I could steal from them and then go here Here's how I did so if you really want to see this that I'll send it to you

I was making this part of my business We had some customers that I would show them how I could get through their security And and get past the bomb squads and some of these things were so easy You know into a plane you think that's what I was leading up through no really high big-time story This is the story so I've got the photographs to show I told them and my observation the TSA at the airport is the absolute weakest security in the world and I can get an arsenal of stuff through it and I will show you I kid you not started

with things like metal signs from you know about this large surfboard it finally a big metal sword which I've got a picture of my wife's angry looking at me and it's not a fake picture. She didn't know I did it. And so what was going on, there's a, and here's, I'm going to share this right now because I wasn't, I'm not supposed to share this. This is what ended my career with the law enforcement. I love this story and I, I'm sharing it publicly for the first time and it could get me in some serious trouble. I kid you not. So here's what was going on. I said, I said okay, first is I called it the magic trick. We'd go to the airport. I've got all this on video pictures and you've got all these TSAs standing around, right? An abundance of them watching. I want to get that number down. When I say the magic words, abracadabra all the big group of them

They all leave leaving a skeleton crew for me to work with and I it works every time abracadabra And they want how this is what they were asking me at the How do you do is it hypnosis? No, so I would hide a bottle of water in a backpack or drop it in somebody's purse While in line. Yeah. In one of my demonstrations I used my nephew, because he was in on it, but you can stick it in anybody. They get flagged. These extra bodies are here just for that reason.

You got a bottle of water, they're gonna take you off and they're gonna, so you can control, you get these people out of the right. Now they're over there, no harm, no foul, the lady or person gets the leaves. It's a bottle of water, right? But you get rid of them now The next step was this there's this

Tray this table where you roll all your stuff around and you put your your stuff in right and underneath there's nothing there It runs right up to I guess what's designed to be a portable x-ray machine. It's got wheels on it There's a gap underneath this thing right so This is blocking the view you got the people a computer looking straight down You got this guy over here telling you gotta take your shoes off You got over here making sure to me needs help and you got people crawling all over the floor But in shoes on on the other side So I would drop the item in the floor and kick it underneath the machine, right?

And I and I'm snapping photos, which is illegal. I found out I Snapped and I've got a ton of these from like 20 airports. Kick it. And we were showing them on the screen showing how I got this, that, and trying to get something done. So the MacGyver 101 team, the people I worked for, they wrote a letter to the White House, I guess the criminal justice system did. And we got a nice letter, and I got a big certificate. Wonderful, all the stuff you've done, this is gonna cause some changes. We wanna fly you to Washington a certain month

for this round table thing they do once a year, and my stuff would go right to the government. Suddenly, my sister, who lives in Hawaii at the time gets a call. I don't know why the guy couldn't find me and I guess I didn't answer my phone but it says we need to find your brother right this minute. Where's your brother? She said what's going on? Well they're coming to arrest him and go to jail. She's like what? She said if you know how to get hold of him you must find him right now. So I said what's the matter with you guys talking about? You told me to call this number if I ever got arrested

Yeah going through the airport and you would tell they said well, that's the thing, you know We normally they work with this we tell them you're testing it or we would We would you know talk to the judge and you're working for us. You're helping. Yeah, and he said no He said the TSA are pissed. He said these guys They say they're gonna make an example out of you. What you're guilty of several felonies No, did you not work really? You're not a lot in law enforcement. Yeah, that you pictures you Manipulated officers and bragged about it out of the area and endangered lies by showing people how to how to do this

Who'd you show though? I put it all over social media I'm not any part of a cover-up. Yeah, I said if we show the public what's going on They'll change it. Yeah for sure because I am not so egotistical to believe that I am the only one on earth who's gonna see that it could do it. That's pretty smart though to kick it under they made So if you look at my photographs of airports and or you have a good memory, go to the airports now. They're all a little different. You can tell they're experimenting. They've changed some things.

They've got a wall they're putting now that runs further back, so you can't control something right up to the, to kick it under. They've got a machine now to bring the carts back around, that they're finding ways to complicate this thing and I'm very thankful that that happened But if they arrest you how'd you get out of that? So they were coming they were looking for me and my guy He says I need you to hide about what he goes. I'm dead serious He said cuz if they if you if you get arrested we may not know where you are. It's like federal stuff

Yeah, he said you we know it's a TSA. He said these guys are not joking here. He said they're mad They're never they're never joking so He said we're gonna fight with him, so he came back. He said it's been resolved There's three conditions one is we can no longer hire you you lost the gig You know no more teaching the officers know that we got to end this no more airports Don't know nothing number two you got to delete all your social media posts, which I did not do I still see some pop-up memories, but somebody deleted some of them. And they said, number three, they want to meet you in person.

I'm like, why do they want to meet me in person? I don't know. They just want to see. No, I said I'm going to do everything but that. Because that sounds like a trap. Yeah, really. But anyway, so no, I never. That sounds like a trap. Yeah, really But anyway, so no I I I never he they said oh and he thought that part of the condition not only can you not

Tell anybody what you did. You can't tell them why you can't do it anymore. This thing just has to go away, right? Yeah, just disappear. So that's why this is the first time I've shared it and I'm a little upset How big was a sword you got through a big. And how big was the sword you got through? How big what? How big was the sword that you got through? Oh, my gosh. I want to I should have sent you that picture. It was from the floor to here. What did you do with it once you got through the security? Well, I carried it around, but it looked like this.

I I I did a weird looks of the sword. Well, the photo that around, but it looked like this. I took it off the plane. Did you get weird looks with the sword? Well, the photo that I'll send you, we're at the gate where my sister is flying one place, right, from one plane, and my wife's there. My wife said, you can never do this stuff when you're with me, which I didn't typically on this. And so I had two versions, right?

Some of this stuff, I just carried on me and tossed it down. But I usually use a jacket, okay? And I would use the jacket to kind of drop it to get whatever it was underneath. And then when I'm down tying my shoes, I would retain. Sometimes something got stuck under there. It wasn't a sword, but I would just crawl over there and get it, because everybody's on the floor

with their shoes. This is the weakest thing I've ever seen in my life. And one of the officers even saw me once, and I said, I dropped my wallet. The sword. So we're done through, we got it through to the gates. And that's from there. It's really not a big deal.

But I'm saying goodbye to my sister and I'm holding the sword and the photograph by my back. And you see my wife going. And I had somebody take the picture, right, of us leaving, saying goodbye, the group were hugging, and she's just going, so she's still mad about that. She knows you got that thing on you. She's very upset about that. So that's a real photo I will show you.

I wanted to put it back on social media even after, it was so funny, that's when some of this was going down. You know, like Conte said. How long ago was this? Seven, six, seven, seven years before I moved here. I don't know why in my head, I feel like if a crime happened seven years ago, you're good, so.

So it was one of the reasons I left where I'm from, Oklahoma, was that, to move to California. That was a reason. This episode is brought to you by Dzone. For the first time ever, the 32 best soccer clubs from across the world are coming together That was the reason. Every match for free on DAZN, starting on June 14th and running until July 13th. Sign up now at dazon.com slash fifa. That's D-A-Z-N dot com slash fifa. On July 18th, it's the Blue Crew to the rescue.

It's smurfing time! Hefty. Can you even lift, bro? Glouchy. I hate the radio. Quiet. There's something important to tell you. I have no idea what he just said.

And smurf-ette. That's how it's done, boys! Smurfs. Only in theaters July 18th. I have no idea what he just said. And Smurfette. That's how it's done, boy. Smurfs. Only in theaters July 18th. The fact is, I had studied acting in college and always wanted to be an actor. I thought you were a great actor. You did great.

Thank you. I think I love doing it. It's really something I've worked on since a kid and I want to do it as a career. And it was one of those things where I was going to come out here right after college, but I couldn't. I got trapped in my career. Once you start booking annual stuff, now they're going to come out here right after college, but I couldn't, I got trapped in my career. Once you start booking annual stuff, now they're gonna book ahead.

You're booked that month this year, so they book you the next year, and next thing you know, 30, 40 years has gone by, and you're just, and so it really took COVID as well to shut everything down, and I saw I'm never looking back, you know, to go into acting full-time. Did you get any big long-term injuries from doing like stunts and stuff covered with them

Are you really absolutely yeah covered with them? I did an air show stunt didn't escape, and I had a bad landing Hi up More than 10,000 feet, but it's not It was an escape from a box which was a thing where the audience thinks that they're gonna I was actually booked by a man named Edsel Ford. He has an air show team and he came to me, he said, I know you do stunts. He said, can you do something for air shows?

He said, we need a new act or something to go with us. And he said, in air shows, in most shows, you want people to think you're gonna die in a stunt show, but in an air show, you want them to know you're gonna die. I said, hmm, I had the idea. What if the audience thinks they're gonna die? He said, even better. So in this this effect I dropped in the plane in the box and The audience is told it's falling out of control

So they take it up and play and the audience can see the chute open and they go Steve was open to shoot he's carrying the box back over the the drop zone, so now I'm Holding this box. It looks like till I get over in the area. Wait, so are you release it? You're in the air. I'm with a shoot Are you holding the box? What it looks like and then I release and and pull these toggles and slant Well, the truth is you can't hold a box when a shoot opens in the air. So I'm wearing this harness We had made down in Deland, Florida by a company real nice

had made down in Deland, Florida by a company, real nice. They make tailor-made stuff for stunts and air shows and things. And a strap attached me to the box. So I have this strap and as I get lower, I release the box and would open my chute. So the problem is anytime you get two lines, FAA approved stunt is safe. I was angry at them. I said, you guys weren't honest with me. Anytime you put two lines in the air, run a risk of danger you get a line Entanglement which is exactly what happened the shoot came out wrapped around the strap to the box. So I've got a shoot there

Not the end of the world. We got two shoots cut away your left wing pull her in your right one, right? So now I've got this shoot open With the strap and a box, which is what it's supposed to look like, but there's an additional piece there that shouldn't be there, the first shoot. Right. So it's causing you to go like this.

As I go down, you can't look down when you're lowering. Skydiving is a weird thing. You can't tell how low you are by looking down. You have to look at the horizon. So about 50 feet from the ground, looking out that way. You can tell where that is You slow your descent normally right? So in my act is I cut away and then slow my descent, right? So the horizon is just doing this I couldn't tell and I was I couldn't

Cut away because I know who i'm gonna kill right this whole thing could god land anywhere So i'm trying to focus to see where I am. And that's the last thing I remember. I had a concussion. I've got the short socks, you know, the nerd socks. You can see the scar right there. Short socks, nerd socks. I saw you in one of your acts. Some of the audience brought that up and you showed them your socks and you don't remember that. It's on YouTube right now. It's on right now. You're having to yell things out of the audience. And one of the guys says something about this short.

So is it black ankle socks? They were saying, so here's you can see the scar right there, right? That's him. Yeah, I got one on both sides, but I broke my hip. I broke that ankle, too. But this one got crushed and most of the entire parts came out It took forever to heal from that one broke the jaw. I've got scars on my arms still from it And so this is a long time ago Took forever to get well, but I had a shoot-opener to be dead, you know, just what do you say a hard landing?

Yeah, yeah, and I tell you, you know, it amazes me people the old army. Those guys never did have Opportunists they had they always came down hard. I don't know how they did it That's great commendable that they would never put up with that. But but yeah So yeah, I had spikes to my body one time. There was a guy who'd hired me before It was the thing where I used to get chained in a chair Hmm, and we've had a martial artist with a screen with spikes and he would come running down, I'm gagged, and he would kick through this thing after a 10 second countdown and I would roll under him basically.

And so this guy hires me and he says, can you do this act? I'm going to have people bring stuff to the show. I'm like, I'm exhausted. And he's got a pole in the stage, like a flagpole. He goes, we're going gonna wrap you around this pole instead I'm okay, and I said we're bringing we'll do a pair of handcuffs Give me ten seconds to get out in on and then he has people bring stuff to the show and brings up on the stage I'm like what in the world are you doing?

This is the emcee. He's got could had hired me ten years before was the emcee What's that? You said emcee? He was the emcee of the show. Oh, emcee of the show, I gotcha. And the promoter. He had hired several acts. So he brought me back for this finale and people were chaining me up. And I'm like, okay, I said, I need a full minute to escape from this. He gags my mouth and they get the screen ready.

And he says, how many of y'all thinks Steve can get out of this in the 10 seconds he originally promised? I'm like, hmm? Whoa. Punchline's gotta be coming, coming right gotta be a punch line and Everybody plods and he said put it in place and he stands up and he says ten now I'm like, are you kidding me? What and I'm like sure I didn't have a chance, right?

So I just turned my back to the spikes and oh this thing and I've still got Crush and the sad thing and I wish I'm brain had been in the right place to not move an inch that the audience broke out into applause because they thought I disappeared and Instead I'm I start moaning and moving him stabbed, you know, but I wish I had not done that now I didn't realize if you didn't move you would be fine They thought I was gone the curtain would have shut, you know into the show and Everybody thought I disappeared and then this thing starts moving. They're like, oh, you know, so anyway, I'm like dude Why did you do that? I thought you were kidding and he said man, I've seen you me and times He goes I thought you could just push you is a B

Thanks spikes, Oh my god One of them yeah went right back my spinal cord, you know I've been paralyzed What do we have time to do another magic trick or we don't I think we have time Well, the one thing I wanted to ask you about we have a half an hour. We're good This episode of Matt and Shane secret podcast is brought to you by dude wipes Riff prompts. When you wipe, are you sitting or standing?

I started out sitting today and then I actually, actually I'm not lying, I got saved by Dude Wipes today. I was in the bathroom taking a dump at Shane's house and I had, you know when it like clings to the side of your butt kind of? I had a large deposit cling to my butt and it like literally you don't have to ever get it on your hand at all and you wipe I don't gross you guys out has accidentally have you have you ever got it on your hand I did it literally happened to me today like I got it just a tiny bit on my hand

I was like fuck that's the joy of the dude wipe an XL wipe for an XL man no it was it came in handy I would have had it gone home. It was such a disaster that, thank God I did that. Guys, whichever way you wipe, it's time to show your b-hole some respect and upgrade to Dude Wipes. Dude Wipes, tackle the mess without any fuss and the flushable design makes cleanup a breeze. They leave no room for dingleberries or stray butt crumbs that TP might miss.

Plus, they're extra large and designed for adults. So no more endless rolls or setting for less, or sorry, so no more endless rolls or settling for less than perfect wipes. Dude wipes, best clean, pants down. Available on Amazon and at major retailers nationwide. One thing I wanted to ask you about, and we'll definitely do some more magic.

The, you used to be able to hold your breath for four minutes. Yep. And now you said you can't hold your breath Oh, no, and nor do I know what happened. I've had You know a lot of things started to change. I used to be you know, very good physical shape You might remember seeing some of the older photos ripped. I saw the picture for an audience, you know, and I You know, I was starting to develop some intestinal issues, Crohn's disease, which I kind of hid and continued.

Some things were going on. But yeah, I started as a kid holding my breath and I was on the swim team and they always hated it. I was horrible swimming on top of the water. So I would always dive in and go all the way to the other side. As we come back emerge, you know, to finish it up. So I get in there. What struggle you do? What struggle? That was just a regular bicycle, you know, to finish it up. So I get in there. Which stroke are you doing? Which stroke are you doing?

That was just a regular bicycle, you know. Oh dude. They, you know, You would just be submerged the whole time? Oh, the first run all the way to the end. And when I come back, I'd come up to give them a few, a little bit of fairness, but I was fast under the auto. There was no rule on how long you stayed under, right? So I, well, if there's no really rule in the books, how long you stay, but I practiced all the time.

And so, yeah, I was comfortable sitting on the bottom of pools, shimming locks, picking locks, manipulating them open that people would bring and, you know, honestly, you get eight or 10 locks, you don't have to open all of them, people didn't realize that necessarily. You you know you open the key locks and but I was comfortable and then I would I would spread this pace it out I want to give that into good show Somebody asked me when I was coming out of one of my water effects Which I could do the lake and the box and all these you mean you come out your joss and your coffin of water

You know, are you really suffering or is it all an act? No, I'm really suffering, but it's also inflicted. I would stay down there. You stay underwater as long as you can until you absolutely can't stay under the water. You're gonna be really breathing hard. Did you ever pass out underwater? Actually, I did one time.

I did once too, it was fucking terrifying. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. How'd you get pulled out? I don't know what happened. We were at Ponkin Theater in Ponk City, Oklahoma, which was supposed to be a haunted theater and We had some weird stuff happen with the water tank an older water tank when they were trying to pull me up a Double pulley system where I go up easy. Mm-hmm Started fighting them. They're pulling this thing. They're right, you know, we don't know what's going on, right?

And and we got this on video think and they kind of get me up and it's this big A-frame I'm hanging upside down. There's a roller thing. I mean, you got your feet and these stocks, right? And then you got, uh, this thing that runs up to the top of this, uh, where they pulled you up and they roll you across was I, they're having so much trouble, I think, man, this thing's in a break, something's wrong here. So the minute we got up there, I said me over the tank quick because they're holding your hands

It's always and I mean the second I was there it broke The weird thing on that night the break had nothing to do with the pulley system It was it was a piece of steel that they would use for mountain climbing, right? They held the stocks and ones but that thing just broke You shouldn't have broken and another place had nothing to do with the tension So there's two issues Really three because the water was boiling after we put us a little bucket healer in hours before cuz ice cold water Should have taken a day to heat it

But the water was like boiling hot when I also went in it and I'm glad I tested it So this was like a haunted theater and everybody's telling me all this hottest stuff's going on I'm like, you know, I just hadn't believe it and then all of a sudden everything's going downhill So when I hit this thing I didn't get any air because I wasn't prepared right? Yeah, it's a one two three four fifth one Hold it go in and i'm good for a while, right? Uh in this case, I was probably on the exhale And I went down So when the stocks came down, they couldn't get the lid on

because it fell so fast, you gotta hit it just right. And you got your fighting with it. And I've got a guy sitting right over here who's a spotter who does nothing but watch me. And if he sees me make a signal something's wrong, cut it. I'm like, cut it. I'm looking, where is he? He's not there. First rule and dare double stunts escape and don't change anything. Don't improvise

nothing. This guy left his poster run help these guys get the lid on right. So I'm trying to get my part to get out of this thing and I blacked out. The next thing I know I'm in the floor. I had fallen. But I don't know what happened. I literally don't remember Jesus very peculiar experience for yes, very terrifying for sure Yeah, I was just swimming with my friends and we were like drinking and I think my I was using my kids goggles

So they were super tight and they were just like cutting off like blood in my brain And I try to go back and forth in the pool and I was coming back and I just I don't remember I like remember coming out of the water, just lungs full of breath. I somehow just propelled myself out, like kind of blacked out, and then I fell forward again, just hit my chin on the edge of the pool. I was-

Water is so dangerous, and even for an escape artist, and I, you know, I don't like to tell all my secrets, but I would do everything I can, you know, I could do to make these things safe. Like, chained up, thrown in a pool, is that I would have a make these things safe, like chained up, thrown in a pool, is that I would have a signal, you know, to do something's wrong. And we would tell the audience, well, they'll have to jump in, pull these heavy weights

all the way to the shallow end to get me out. Well, the fact is we had a rope with a hook on it. But then I'm like suffering later. And I'm asked by guys, because could you see me? You know, I really couldn't see that well. You know, the water was too chlorinated. I just couldn't see it. Or we're in a lake. I almost died in a lake. I showed you a picture of this, I think yesterday coming out of the lake that was totally unexpected. A wooden box was in a lake and I did what I had to do to open it, but the wood had sealed and I mean, it was a tough sucker to get out of it.

Once I got out, I'm exhausted and I'm trying to work my way up. Lo and behold, we've got quicksand or something underneath the water. When I get too shallow enough to walk, it takes me down. And I'm like, pooling. It's hard to get my head on the, you know, wet shoes. They're gone.

And I mean, I'm trying to fight and to get my feet out of this. And my guys are coming out. So the photo, mayors, I've got on my phone, but they're coming. Yeah. Yeah, and I mean I'm trying to fight and get my feet out of this and my guys Are coming out so the photo I may or I've got on my phone If you guys but they're coming out to try to help me and then they're sinking five guys Tim Geyser Rescue guys that they can't even get to me, you know, and I'm just like and I'm so tired. So water Yeah, well, it doesn't scare me but it's water didn't scare me like something's like heights here. Yeah, but but it's very dangerous

Yeah, it is peaceful though underwater. I have little kids and I will go in the pool and every now and again I'll just disappear from my whole family underwater for a good minute It's just absolutely just the fucking best just to go underwater. I can't hear anything for yeah, and that was my life You know squirking them back to a question you asked up I'm sit there underwater and comfortably do my thing and enjoyed the peace and quiet until it was time to come up. But then one day it changed. I just lost that ability.

It's crazy. So I went to a doctor and I said, we got a serious problem. I've got bookings. I said, listen, I can hold my breath a lot longer than this. I can't hold my breath. I don't know why as much as I practice. And so they even did a heart test, massage my heart. They said, this sounds like it's a heart thing.

They said, no, your heart's fine. And they finally said, listen, whatever weirdness it was that you were gifted with, hold your breath before a minute is just gone. Whoa. You know, your body's changing. Just time for acting. You know, it's time to go to become an actor.

I gotta survive the last. So the thing that changed was I went from a comfortable performance, it's a show even if there's danger We know it's tough. You know it's still a show a comfortable performance to put on a good show of fighting against death struggling you know to a real fight against death where I'm going as fast as I can and Suffering every minute as you still keep doing them even even if no I didn't book anymore after that I had to I but I finished my contract. I mean I had bookings

I you know had a religion about it that once the deal is made you know you don't pull out if you want you sign You're gonna be there And I mean I don't recommend this for everybody, but it's to truth You know I did a show with a broken leg once Not that break another one of her roller coaster. I had to go do a second show. So I like your leg on a roller coaster. Well, that was a thing where I'm strapped to the roller coaster. I think I showed you those straight jacket. We put a screen up and the roller coaster is coming. I have to dive out before it comes through. And I did it a long

time ago. Yeah, way back frontiers excuse me spring like amusement park in Oklahoma City was the first what I did and that was in college way back some other guys have done it since then but it was my original act and There was a way I knew that the roller coaster was so close right so yeah, you don't want to jump out Yeah, earlier looks boring. So you gotta wait till it gets there and then jump. It caught your leg? What? The roller coaster caught your leg you're saying?

No, no. I thought it was closer than it was. So it's like with flying, that you don't trust your eyes, you don't trust the instrument. So I had a way in knowing where it was that I didn't trust it. It sounded like it was there.

I'm like, I don't have time to jump up and land on this platform. So I just went under straight down under the tracks and dropped 15. Oh, Jesus. And goes again, my poor body you talk about. I had a total hip replacement last November. It got so bad. I couldn't walk that you're the pain and like not too young for it. My replacement doctor. But that's the best surgery you can get. Boy, I'll tell you what I'm really. Yeah, I'm too young for it. My wife's with doctor, but that's the best surgery you can get, boy, I tell you what, I'm, yeah, I can't tell, I've ever had a problem. I'm not as limber as I was, but I will say that, because you're not allowed to stretch

after six months or something. But yeah, we live with it and I think it was all worth it. Nice, and the one thing I wanted to ask you about was I found this kind of fascinating. You were on, what was the TV show you were on, the cooking show cooking show America's worst chef or something? Ah, that was very recent. Yeah last year Was it year before I lose track of time I'm doing my acting thing. There's a strike going on and I

Was on a series at Eli Roth scary series, which was still on max playing an exorcist and we were going to have additional shows and we got shut down for the strike and I'm like, oh man, this sucks. And so I asked the union, well, what can we do? This will you do reality shows? So I am the world's worst cook. I'm really horrible.

When I was single, I would throw everything a bowl, turn on the stove high as it would go the rest, stir it up, didn't care what everything a bowl, turn on the stove high as it would go, the rest, stir it up, didn't care what it tastes like, throw all the things that you need to eat your four front groups and eat them. But I was on the road eating out my whole life. And then I married a girl that was a great cook and she doesn't allow me in the kitchen at all, period. I made a mess when she leaves to see Grand Kits or something, you know she I made a mess when she leaves to see grandkids or something you know yeah, I've rent the microwave I've done, but anyhow So I auditioned and got on

World's worst cooks. I think it's that pronounced that way yeah, it is worse to America season 27 And that's great. Yeah, 27 lady. That's crazy chef and and Beryl. I think I'm saying right Yeah, you know she died here just two weeks ago That's nuts man. And it's just so sad. She was a great lady. Yeah, we had a lot of fun on the show You know, of course she's yelling at you and you know, yeah, we're hamming it up The bad cooking was all real people think I made that stuff up You know, we hammed up the performance a little sure It was all real, but yeah, we were really shocked. And had a great time, though, and some great memories.

And sadly, she was going to take a break from the show, but she told me she wanted me to come back. And so did the producers. They occasionally do reunion shows. The worst of the worst. And he's going to have me back because we had such a good time. And I wasn't sure for when to go back. I thought, is this really the image I want with my acting?

But now that we lost her, I'm like, you know what? If I'd known, I'd definitely gone back quicker. Yeah, yeah. Very nice lady. Yeah, it's a shame she died. I didn't realize that show had so many seasons. That's crazy. Nor did I.

I've heard it once or twice before that. Yeah, I didn't really watch it. Yeah, because Triple D's gotta be at what, like 30 seasons? Like, Diners Drive-'s got to be at what like 30 seasons like diners drive-ins has to be at least like 30 something seasons Yeah, it's got to be I haven't seen that in years. Is it still on I think so I think it's actually like shot in like fucking 8k now. I think they're really stepped up the production on D3 interesting, but yeah, let's set some tricks man. Let's uh let's close this thing out strong all right You're on here he is sorry to make you wait so long oh that's okay happy to help what made you think of this when you're

talking about the spikes and cutting and a little bit of rope magic today okay but you're going to be my assistant oh no speaking of i don't think we just stabbed my neighbor over here once maybe you've heard of the famous trick where the rope floats up into the air, someone climbs the rope, that'll be you, disappears and then the rope falls. Have you heard of this? No.

The East Indian rope trick, very famous? Well, that's okay, because I don't know that one. But that would have been a good trick. All right, I really do know some weird things with rope, though, for example, have you ever wondered what happens when you take the ends off the rope? You can actually get a loop of rope when you do that. But to do the trick, I wanna do today, I'm gonna need two ropes.

They have to be exactly the same. This is where you come into the trick. So would you hand me the center of the rope? Just gotta give me the middle. Right here. All right. Dr. Microphone, would you agree? If you cut it here, that would give us to the same length.

All right, that's the spot selected. Take the scissors, don't cut the fingers. Just cut the rope, grab the scissors. I'm gonna give you a nice injury. Right there, don't cut the line cord either. All right, but we're a little off on the link. That's okay, I'm gonna have you even these out. Let me line them up straight

and ask you to cut this off right here. That should do it right there. Where you want. Right there, I think that should make them exactly the same length. All right, now we have two ropes. Okay, we need two ropes exactly the same length. Would you mind cutting that right there?

Just give it a good cut, there we go. Right there? That's a way to do it. Now we have two ropes exactly the. Have you ever had something called deja vu? Have you ever had something called deja vu Have you ever had something called deja vu You heard that one coming on bit here we go this is abracadabra abracadabra. All right. We're just gonna start all over Now to do the trick I really want to do today. We're gonna need two ropes

They have to be the same thing That's where you come out of the tree grab the middle of the rope and just lift it up, hand it to me. Would you agree if we cut through up here we'd have two the same length? Like pretty fair. Would you grab the scissors again, cut it just like you did before? Here we go. And uh, wear a little off on the link. Would you mind cutting this? You know what? Rather than go through all of that again, I think if we just do the trick, we can actually correct the link. So let me give you a good view. You look like a good knot, right?

Hold onto the end of the rope real tight. Don't let go. Watch the knot. You can let go now. A lot of people think it's a trick knot. That is why I always like to untie it. Come here. So everybody can see that it is indeed a real knot.

Yeah. All right. Now, Matt, would you like to put two ropes back together yourself? Yeah. I know you can do it. Big fan of yours. You know, I got a carpet named after you outside my door.

I'm too bad. All right. I'll get the scissors for you. I've always been a big fan. By the way, thank you for having me. All right. I'm gonna tie the ends of that one. We'll give it a cut. And I want you to pick a rope. Do you want to use the one I just tied and cut or the rope I'm gonna cut right now? I'll take the one you're gonna cut right now. This one? Yeah. I always

give you a chance to change your mind. Would you like to change your mind or keep the mind that you have? Okay, I'll keep the one that I have. Keep his mind. All right, here we go. So I'm gonna tie these together for you just like that. All right, here we go. So we're gonna tie these together for you just like that. All right Hold it on the end All right, so you won't be able to do the magic wave because you got a mic So okay instead say the magic words every day, but I like the exam. I like a Sam say Oh, what a great magician I am. What a great magician, you know have a hand to take it in your teeth. Mm-hmm Hold the knot off like a real escape artist. Oh you did it

You keep that as a souvenir I will might be worth penny someday right? Yeah, how'd you even do that? That's crazy You did it. You did it true. Magic's in me We can do another trick if you want. Show you how one is done. No, I would never. I would never reveal this trick. I mean, do you want me to show you how a trick is done today? If you want. I thought magician's get killed for that. This is a special show. It's the secret. True, true. Yeah, show me the secret trick.

Alright, can we take a little break and we'll move over here? Yeah, take a break. Take a break. Alright, we'll be right back with the secret for the secret broadcast show. Okay. Okay. Sorry. Alright, we're cutting back in. Let me know. Alright, we're back.

The interview portion. I think the interview portion is concluded, but now we're doing tricks. Alright. It's a good interview. It was a great interview. I had fun. Thank portion. I think the interview portion is concluded, but now we're doing tricks. All right, no good interview How's a great interview? I had fun. Thank you. I had fun I was talking to my crumb. They were to give it off in a minute But first the word magic we promised we're gonna be doing some miracles right now many as they were done thousands of years ago Maybe you heard of this one

It's called walking on water. Thank you No, I was about to tell you, you just got promoted. You hold both of these things now. Okay, thank you so much. Oh, he's lovely assistant and Mr. Microphone. Okay. This is definitely one of the things we're not going to have a relationship with our. I don't know, man. If you put me around all those carnies, you could get kind of weird on there. All right

So what are we gonna do? Well, this is a secret podcast. I'm going to reveal a secret. Oh, here we go Show you magic tricks show you how it's done for this trick You need a handkerchief a scarf and a left a left hand you put the handkerchief or scarf All the way In the hand like this. Okay, you make something called a magic pass. We know what a passage, right? I'll go up to? Mr. microphone. Hi. Not doing that kind of pass. I magic you do this. Now we have an egg. And the scarf or handkerchief has jumped into my pocket. Yo, as promised. All right. You ready to see the

secret? Let's see the secret. Actually, As promised. All right. You ready to see the secret? Let's see the secret. Actually, I bought it by mistake. If you ladies need some out there, this is the secret. You put that. All right. Different secret. All right.

Yes. The secret to the magic trick. And this is a trick egg. It's a plastic egg laid by a very sick bird. And there's a hole in the back of the egg. Kind of a let down when you see how these work. And you need to handkerchiefs do the trick. All right, here's what you do. You hide the egg in your hand.

Hold both hands the same you come out in a natural way. So now whatever looks natural, for sure. Take the handkerchief, wave it around like this. Actually, that depends on the company. You don't depends on the company. Well, you don't want to drop it. True. You're getting paid, right? That's all that matters.

Okay. He's actually really wealthy. Oh, okay. Really? Yeah. Well, maybe we could renegotiate this relationship after all. You didn't tell me that. Okay.

So he's in the top 3%. You didn't tell me that. Okay. So isn't the top 3% I would say in the car. Wow. What? earners earners really amazing. Congrats. Apparently is a huge day. I don't make it weird. It's a lot. He's got a huge dick too. Oh, yeah. Money big dick.

You got I guess you're getting a lot of fans right now. Gosh, I didn't plug my Instagram you guys follow me on Instagram plug it Entertainer Steve Crawford entertainer you type entertainer. I'll pop up there Why did I do that? Because I'm from Facebook country and I'm trying to get some new friends out here So got you nice to meet you guys. Okay, so where were we? Oh, yeah, you hide the egg in your hand You have both hands the same come out in a natural way Okay, so where were we? Oh, yeah, you hide the egg in your hand. You have both hands the same come out in a natural way. Take the handkerchief and you start placing it in your hand.

But we know it's going where in the egg in the egg. It actually goes all the way into the egg. You know, you make the pass, you show them the egg and you tell everyone that the scarf or handkerchief has jumped into your pocket. Now, there's a couple of quick rules. I want to show them the egg. Can't show the egg. We show thatchief has jumped into your pocket. Now, there's a couple of quick rules I got to make. Why do you show them the egg? Can't show the egg. Well, you show them that it has turned into an egg.

But just a few tips. He's got a point. First of all, don't show anybody the backside of the egg. Right? That's important. Wow. Wow, wow, Wes. And make sure the handkerchief in your pocket

is the same color as that one that's in the egg. If this doesn't match that, you're not going to fool them. But what do you do if they see the back of the egg? I mean, where you guys are standing, you can see the red. Well, you don't tell them it's a handkerchief. You tell them you cut your finger, you're painting it, chicken banged its head, trying to get out.

I may be a magician, but as you probably got a feel for it, I'm an honest guy. I try to be honest. So here's what I like to do. Make a real magic pass. Peel the whole off the egg like that crack the egg so everybody can hold on a second brother And that's what I like to do You tricked us bro. You didn't give us the secrets. That's awesome. That's good

That was pretty cool. Thank you very much. Hell yeah. Thank you, Steve. Been fun. Appreciate it. Bye. Goodbye.