Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast - Ep 584 - The Buzz Man (feat. Marcus King)

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

Support the D.A.W.G.Z. @ patreon.com/MSsecretpod Go See Marcus & the Band Live @ https://www.marcuskingofficial.com/tour/ & listen to the new album 'Darling Blue' Go See Matt Live @ mattmccusker.com/dates Go See Shane Live @ shanemgillis.com Go See Optimum Noctis if you want @ https://www.creekandcave.com/events/optimumnoctis Hello0o0o0o0. We got the D.A.W.G. Marcus King with Matt this week for you. Marcus is the man you gotta go see him when he comes to your town. Also listen to his new album 'Darling Blue'. He's a beast. Please enjoy. God Bless. Try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE at https://www.ziprecruiter.com/mssp This video is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/MSSP Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Wild Wild West. Hey, welcome everybody, Marcus King. What's going on? What's up? You're just telling me about the big, mighty band. Yeah, we got the whole crew coming down. For tomorrow? Yeah. That's awesome. This should be out tomorrow, actually. Yeah, it's the non-cost-effective group. Yeah. Yeah. The wall of sound.

We've got the horns, BGVs, strings. Thanks, you got to move every... So you just fly every single person down for a show? I never really thought about that. Yeah, I think the strings and the BGVs are local. Cool. but my fiddle players coming down from Nashville and my horns are flying in That's awesome It's gonna be fun

It's gotta feel powerful to know you have a bunch of like What do they call Trump? Not Trump What is a horn player called? Like a hornist or like A horniest? Yeah What do they call it?

I guess a trumpeteer We just call them horn players Horn players there you go My bad Showing my fucking ass already A saxophonist My thing is knowing If I knew I was like moving

Brass players through the sky I would feel pretty powerful about that you know what I mean yeah it's a nice feeling that's awesome all right well I thought it's cool it is a nice feeling no that's awesome dude I'm fucking stoked for you see and you just released the uh the album darling blue yeah the album's out it's nice on it man I was I was blast into my house good thanks yeah it's awesome dude fucking rips I you you might be one of the biggest ax men currently right now man who I mean who else can shred like you I'm sure there's plenty true

That sure, there's a lot of, but, you know, I mean, I guess, yeah, there's a lot of quiet guys just kind of noodling in their room just like myself. Dude, Billy, you, you and Billy are fucking, uh, Billy's really playing some, some wild stuff. Yeah, Billy's been studying, like, almost like classical style. Yeah, with his Scientologist teacher. Yeah, Billy takes guitar lessons in, yeah, it's, he studies from a Scientologist who kind of like, just peppers in a little Scientology every now and again on him. I mean, that's the way to do it. But, like, Chickariah was a Scientologist. Really?

And my keyboard player was, like, a big Chick-A-Ria fan. When he went to go see him, you know, he said he hit him with a little... Just a little dab. Just a little dab of Scientology at the end there, you know. I'm so scared of Scientology. I'm so scared of Scientology. Yeah, it freaks me out. Yeah.

And I feel like the better you do in this industry, like, it's kind of looming. Scientology? It's around the corner. Yeah, dude, it would be, I don't know. The only thing I would like about it is just kind of making my wife do it with me. Yeah. It'd be kind of fun. She's like,

no, we're scientific. She's like willing to go into church now, and I could just completely dash her Christian dreams with New World Satanism. So that would be pretty nice. Dude. Like, what if instead of all this being nice stuff,

he just became as successful as possible and forgot all this shit? I mean. I should do that, actually. Make a read fucking science fiction from the 1950s. Yeah. This is what we're into now. True.

Get both my daughter's clear. Dude, yeah. Dude, we're going clear. Have you, do you know any people? Have you ever been approached with the S or no? No, I've been asked about some other weird shit. Like what? I've just been invited to like, like get-togethers, like out in the Redwoods.

Whoa. I'm like, I'm cool. What do you mean? I could get like a naked. You know, Kenny Loggins allegedly played live from the Redwoods. Redwoods to a naked crowd. To a naked crowd. It could just be folklore, but that's what I've heard.

We call it Kenny Loggins on the road, like me and my keyboard player, like, you know, when you're on the road, like, food is always kind of sporadic what you're putting in your body. And, like, if you're drinking a lot, too, so, like, if we're having like solid dumps, we call it, we call those

Kenny Loggins. But if you're not, then it's called the Messina. So you're the logins or Messina on any given day. But, yeah, my, I, I can fly for one day and eat one meal. If, as soon as I hit the road, instant diarrhea, it's every time. Instant diarrhea.

My ass is a mess. I have baby wipes in my school bag that I always forget about. Yeah. And I get home and I like go to, I always, I get the check from the comedy club. I give it to my wife. And every time I open up for the check, I go, fuck, I had baby wipes this whole time. Right. I could have used those.

But the tour bus must be crazy. Just a bunch of bros. bunch of bros it starts smelling about two days in it's a weird combo of smells and you can never really track it down to one person so it's hard to go to somebody and be like hey man you know your hygiene's a problem yeah because there's 12 bunks so

it's like 12 combinations of odor she's got to walk by each one and kind of well it's just kind of the whole collective have you ever confronted somebody for their hygiene on the bus I have how does that go I usually do it in a more of a passive way I had a keyboard player one time I just bought deodorant for

I was just like hey man I got you this you just kind of you know lightly approach it yeah that's how yeah you handled the keyboard player like a teenage daughter kind of yeah I got you some deodorant

yeah you're still beautiful but you might want to try this starting to funk that's kind of tight boarding for flight 246 to Toronto is delayed 50 minutes what

Sounds like Ojo time Play Ojo Great idea Feel the fun With all the latest slots In live casino games And with no wagering requirements What you win is yours to keep

Grooving Hey, I won Sporting will begin When Passenger Fisher is done celebrating 19 plus Ontario only Please play responsibly Concerned by your gambling Or that if someone close

You call 1-86653300 Or visit Comex Ontario.Ca So how's this run Ben versus other runs in terms of the tour. Do you ever really get back to a city and just realize, like, maybe how much you've grown as a person

since the last time you've been to a place? Man, yeah. This tour has been especially like that. We can really feel it in it. And, like, this half of the year has been mostly, like, like, we were talking about, like, our B markets,

like, tertiary markets, to use an industry term. Tertiary's nice. I heard that one here. Tertiary is B-minus? I guess. Tertiary is so nice. Yeah, Marcus, we're going to put you on

we're going to be doing mostly tertiary markets so uh you know it's not going to be cost effective for us do it this way but we can't and i just kind of give you the whole rigum roll yeah but um it's interesting because we haven't really done it like this before we kind of already had a tour planned and then we moved the record release up so the first leg of the album release tour ended up being only tertiary markets which is kind of nice because it gives us like six to nine months to build the rollout for like our a plus markets within the same you know window of release yeah which is kind of cool that makes sense and you say build what do you mean by build it up just more time to promote the shows yeah that that makes sense I think so like work on

the I guess you already have the album done because that's yeah it's kind of unfortunately in the tertiary markets a lot a lot of figuring it out yeah it's a lot of like hey guys I'm gonna figure this out in front of you. Sorry, I'm going to do a really good show in Chicago, but Tedis boys is getting the crap. Chicago's going to be great, man. But Madison, Indiana, you're going to get fucked.

No horn players for you guys. We're filling some things out. Yeah, it's like the no horn players, and a lot of times what I recognize now is like, you know, a lot of dudes bring their wives and their wives are like, where's Briley, which is my wife? Because she sings with us sometimes, and she doesn't come out all the time.

Got you. But when she's not there, I've seen some real disappointed lady folks in the crowd. No, that's true. With trucker hats, just waiting for it. Unhappy. Have ever thought of just kind of like faking them out? Yeah, just out. Put it on the dress, dude.

Like, oh, she'll be right back, guys. Hold on a second. Yeah. No, Brittany gets, my wife gets, she'll go to shows every now. Now she'll get, like, recognized and it's kind of funny. to like see that and see like people like Brittany what's going on that's awesome yeah it's pretty cool I don't know how she feels about it I think she loves it deep down

but she gets kind of like she's freaked out four-time WNBA superstar yeah the first three weeks of that were really like she was shell shocked because she would just she didn't realize neither of us really did how big how like wide that went how far that went she would just like go out to get coffee and it'd be like four people like WMBA yeah dude she'd be like

that sports crowd is like a whole other thing, man. I know. When you tap into that market, like, those fans are Buckwild. It's, dude, it's the, I would argue it's like the biggest thing, honestly. It's like a religion. Like, people feel really, like, you know, okay to, like, fight about that. Yeah. Or just kind of like, I was just at a birthday party recently and it was, you know, there's nothing wrong with it. The guy was just like, oh, she must be like an Eagles fan. And it's just so disappointing when you're in a group of dudes somewhere and you go, yeah, I don't really care. I, like, I, yeah, I, I, like, support them in spirit but I don't really care to watch it I don't know anything about it

and they just watch them go oh fuck man I don't know what we're going to talk about now like sorry brother that's my whole life yeah no sports yeah like especially like bryly's friends or like any of our small town friends like when like I'm sure you've been in a situation where you got to meet other husbands and they're like yeah man well you know like hurricanes are looking good this year yeah or like uh whatever the fuck else they're talking about um and i'm like i don't really yeah i don't really watch sports man it's a bummer dude it's a bummer but i try but that's almost worse when you try to engage and then they start hitting you with facts that really go over your head yeah and then you got to say i'm just bullshit yeah

i'll try to get although too i feel like in those sports combos you can be like i'll fake the fun too i'll be like yeah man i like we won the super bowl last year so you know how that is and then they'll be like it'll be like what do you what do you think exactly what do you think about the big man and I'm like damn I don't know who the fucking big man is they're all just show my ass by like which who the big man is they're talking about the team I'm supposed to be a fan of they're not even from the city I'm like they're the big man you speak of um donovan mcnab perhaps I don't know yeah it's it's a bummer I've gotten more I've like just gotten more up front with it my lack of sports knowledge and interest but it is like you know just

disappointing because they're like damn dude we could have like bonded over this but I've tried, you know, my wife walked in one day and I was watching football and I was like actively trying to engage and watch it and she just laughed at me. She laughed and she's like, what the hell are you doing? Are you watching football? I'm trying to. And I just really didn't enjoy it. Yeah. If it's on like it's cool, but I have to be somewhere with someone else and it happens to be on if that makes sense. Then I can watch it but like to I would feel insane I think I've tried it too

myself like I'm gonna sit down and watch the game I'm gonna be a real guy and then I sat down and it's just like oh dude this is so fucking long dude I wish I could do

something else right now it's so fucking boring we watched the World Series the other night and that was fun our tour managers from Toronto so he had a lot

you know on the line and he was very excited and uh and crushed yeah we all really wanted to see him uh

we wanted to see the Blue Jays lose just because we knew he was going to be insufferable if they won. But man, when they lost, like, it was actually really sad for him. Yeah. And we all immediately felt bad. That was a tough one for everybody because people were torn between patriotism and how much everyone hates L.A. Yep.

So a lot of people I talked about, like, fuck the Dodgers. I don't want the fucking Dodgers to win. They were just root pretty much against their country. Yeah. It was an interesting one. That's pretty true. Everyone I know is kind of like, fuck the Dodgers. I'd rather see Canada win.

Not on our bus. Yeah. We're rooting Team USA, baby. Team USA, I can support that. I was, again, just spineless like usual. I was like, oh, yeah, I could see Canada winning. And then, like, your Dodgers started winning. I'm like, oh, that's good, too.

But that's good, too. I never want to empower Canada. That is true. I do feel that way as well. Me neither, man. And I feel like being against the Dodgers, as a lot of these guys are, I think it's kind of anti-Semitic to be against the Dodgers. So I think you guys should really think about that.

Yeah. I think your hatred of the Dodgers. was really charged by your anti-Semite. Stop Asian hate, man. You've got to support the daughters. Did you do that on purpose? Yeah. That's hilarious.

Saying anti-Semite, stop Asian hate is very funny. Master. I've been to basketball games. I've been to football games and hockey games. I like hockey a little bit. But when I'm at the game, like, at a basketball game, I'm like, I'm going to get into this. I'm a basketball guy. now and then it just never sticks no as soon as well dude i like i think Nate you probably did

you check stats and shit yeah see that's where like yeah i'm going i like i can watch i know i have friends that are like i thought the same thing i'm gonna start watching i'm gonna follow he's like i just see him like googling stats from all the players i'm like bro what i feel i always feel like i'm so behind yeah it's weird this episode is brought to you by zip recruiter i'm constantly looking for my keys and my chapstick, my glasses, headphones, and charger, etc. I lose them almost every day, and the longest time I've spent looking for something is about 17 minutes. I'll tell you what, it'd be nice if we had a superpower that helped us find exactly what we need right at that moment, which I have, it's called a wife. Luckily, my hiring managers, for my hiring managers out there,

you've at least got the next best thing, ZipRecruiter. Try it free at ZipRecruiter.com slash MSSP. There's a reason ZipRecruiter continues to be named the number one hiring site based on, get this, G2, and that's because it does most of the work for you using its powerful matching technology to scan through thousands of resumes and to connect you with top talent almost instantly. Want to know right away how many qualified candidates are in your area? look no further than ZipRecruiter 4 out of 5 employees who post on ZipRecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day

Ooh, I kind of would like to try that man See, I just want to see I don't You know, I'm not really hiring currently But I'm going to see how many qualified candidates there are Kind of like Megan's Law, you know what I mean? But not with obviously horrible pedophiles But with qualified candidates Check them out of my zip code

And right now you can try it for free At ZipRecruiter.com slash MSSP Again, that's ZipRecruiter.com slash MSSP, ZipRecruiter, the smartest way to live. Yeah, you've got to, I really think you can watch SportsCenter. I think if you were to like take 30 minutes a day to watch SportsCenter, you can get through, I think it's the point of the show. Yeah.

You could get through, you could chat enough where you'd be like, yo, you see that catch, the Steelers? See, I won't catch and like, it'll let them fill in the blanks and like not. I only saw the clip of the catch. Yeah. Or just get really into sports gambling. Oh, yeah, right. That'll help you pay attention

It just get really deep into gambling That was the one time I've ever been able to pay attention When I tried to become a bookie in college And I actually know even then I didn't watch the games I did one game and I'm like I see the allure This is great and then I was like all right I'm going to check my voicemail later and seeing people Yeah they took advantage of the fact I wasn't watching

Because they kept just being like double down Double down double down and eventually I was like fuck They would hit I never got into gambling man I've been pretty much addicted to everything else but but gambling but gambling yeah that's a good one though

gambling is the one that really kind of can get you and it's also like I would say it's the lamest addiction drugs it's like there is kind of like a fucking it's kind of sick on some level right it can kill you it's very dangerous yeah sex kind of sick as well

yeah gambling's just pathetic when you're like I just thought these guys would win now everything's ruined my life's ruined it's interesting be addicted to something that takes like a little bit of skill and like knowledge and like a little bit of planning true which I guess drug use takes a little planning as well yeah but I was always addicted to things that allowed me to let go of everything and not feel anything well apparently

I and the more I've read about it gambling does do that for some people for me it's just I just have anxiety the whole time until I either win and become euphoric or lose and feel like a loser yeah but there's people with gambling who like it's more so just that time and between like hands or like during the game where they get into a flow state where it's just like it's not even that when i've heard about it it's like it's not even about winning or losing it's about you're just kind of like you're fully on while you don't know what's going to happen they get addicted to that feeling wow yeah it's kind of fucked up but still lame still a lame way to go out it's pretty lame but i think i think the lamest would be uh i was uh i had a problem with laxatives

what yeah and then i realized like a doctor was tell a doctor was tell a doctor told me that like it's a form of like bulimia yeah because I I did like when I was like 1920 like I used to throw up all my meals and stuff okay it was a it was a shitty time but then like I started taking laxatives which is like a different form of it I guess yeah I would say the better yeah I would say it's a better it's an improvement how'd you get busted with a lax dude I shit my pants in Japan damn I just got like completely completely hammered drunk and like one sneeze sent me over the edge and my drummer's birthday dinner I was like you're drinking on the lax yeah I was drinking on the lax we'd got to Japan and like

you know we had this great big dinner and I was like just got completely hammered and like you know I was speaking the little bit of Japanese I know and just being really loud fuck and uh yeah well it's just really funny the thing you have a restaurant full of like like old Japanese people being like, you know, they're probably shit-talking Americans. Like, they're so unruly and like, oh, they're fine. And then you stand up to give a speech and shake your pants. Just hammered. Yeah, it was me.

How did you, what'd you do? How'd you like, because it's tough. It's one thing if you shit your pants when you're sober, you're kind of tactical about it. And you're drunk. It's like, it's a tough. You're on your back foot for sure. I'll say like, I thought I could save it. You know, I went.

I went to the bathroom. And I was like, you know, the box of briefs are done for us. So they went in the garbage. And then I went back. And I mean, we were having dinner at the hotel we were staying in, you know. I could have called it a night. But I went back to the dinner. I sat down again and like started drinking more and raging more.

And then I shit my pants again. No. And then I was like, all right. there's never more i can do you shoot your underwear the first time yeah then you finally shat your pants oh my god dude and once that happens you just got it you got to call it and uh my boy my boy kyle walked him back up to the room and i was just like you know when you're drunk you know everything's a lot bigger and i was like i've always been one to kind of like get ahead of the story so i was walking through the lobby like hey how's everybody doing i shit my pants i was just

but nobody spoke English and I was just yelling in people's faces but it's probably good that I quit drinking Yeah I would say How long did you drink for? Dude like my whole life man I started drinking and smoking when I was like 11

Yeah And you know it was just like Part of the biz For me But I feel a lot better without it I still encourage people to get drunk around me Yeah true Because drinking was always this thing to like

lower that like um you know missions yeah unless you lower theirs that's actually kind of nice everybody else does it and then you're just kind of you know yeah you look at these drunk idiots yeah it's kind of nice actually yeah that's uh that's kind of nice you tell everyone like yeah because that's i guess if you don't drink i yeah i would worry people are like not drinking on my account it's like yeah you want people to live their lives that's the worst yeah that's i would do that i would if i know someone sober i like won't drink on purpose and i yeah it's a kind of uncomfortable thing but i've I knew someone before who did that

where I was all prepared to have like a super sober weekend with them and they just fucking got after it and I was like oh shit alright this isn't good yeah but turned out not to be it's always a

it's a good feeling when that tide really turns though and you do lock in and you start and you start drinking that's a fun feeling when you just say fuck it yeah

I do that with Burke Chrysher one time just got hammered I just got hammered like I fell off the wagon after like a nine months tent i fell off the wagon in san diego and then i went up um and i had the burt cast the next day and i was i was hung over when i got to bert's house and it was the first time he and i had met

so this a couple years ago and when i walked in we just immediately just locked in you know yeah he he was like starting a sober journey i was hung over i was like i'm hurting and then we just we really got after it and if you if you watch that's so sick you knocked him off as well We knocked each other off And we were both waiting around in the deep end And then the next day I had to speak at a sober nation event Oh, how'd that feel? It felt really bad

So that's so funny So you're at least sober for the sober nation now I was hungover Oh And I had to speak at this like panel This discussion about sobriety and music How did you handle that one? I just had to be honest that, you know

Yeah, fucked up First thing I said it was like you know the thing about the wagon is you fall off the wagon you get back on you know which was true and i i really i really had to finesse that because i i felt a little judgment um yeah i bet my management was uh they were pretty terrified horrified they didn't really want me to do it and uh i was like look no i got this because really that is the thing about sobriety that i think scares a lot of people about it like i think one day of sobriety is just as good as 10 years because you're just as close to fucking it up yeah true it doesn't really matter dude i've been i mean it's

you know obviously not the same i've been trying to get off of coffee and that was like just fucking imposity because i can like take or leave drinking i whatever coffee was one like it's so fucking hard caffeine in general it's so hard to get off of that yeah so like you're saying the longer i go the more likely i'm to be like i'm gonna have a fucking cup of coffee do that shit's not a big deal yeah better and uh and uh and again it's not like drinking but it's just tough man i don't know like how people quit heroin i'm like how it's impossible yeah i can hardly quit caffeine i'm like how you how do you quit heroin that's one that i never got after but that's good i think i'd really like it yeah probably

be fucking sick yeah he's fucking awesome dude i got family members that got into the opiates and they said it's pretty great yeah but they also said makes you a little constipated yes and i said you got the cure for that can't do that you got the cure I do have the cure. I guess I could supplement that. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of people, too. A lot of opiate people got in.

Meth made a big, like, it rose in the East Coast pretty hard with following the heroin. Yeah. So a lot of people I knew who got into the opiates, the meth came around, like, late stage opiate addiction. That was kind of interesting. What's funny about meth is like, like my dad, he was, he's a boomer generation guy. So, like, in the 80s, meth was more. like casually used yeah you know and he would just like casually do meth now like when they snorted it okay when you start smoking it that's the problem and like i actually have a friend in

georgia and her aunt patty she's the shit and uh she's like a massive kid rock fan she's so awesome and uh she has like 15 instagram accounts and she just like because she forgets her password and she just makes a new line and she signs everything Aunt Patty or Patty poo but she's like man I wake up in a morning to do a line and clean the house it's like recreational and it's sick as long as you snorted it though

yeah I don't know I thought it I thought it burned really badly when you snorted it I mean ketamine burns pretty bad when you snort it what is? Ketamine Okay that burnt pretty bad Maybe I'm just a giant pussy I'm over here talking about quitting caffeine

It's like yeah I hear you about sorority I've quit caffeine for four days I couldn't quit caffeine It's hard A quick break from the show For a special segment called More or Less And it's brought to you by prize picks

No matter the season The action never stops on prize picks Whether it's baseball, basketball, football Or anything in between You can mix and match your favorite players Pick more or less on their stats And play for your shot to win Up to 2,000 times your cash

Prize Picks keeps the game going all year. year long so let's get into it what players from what sports are we looking at I've been looking at basketball I've been real big on a VJ Edgecombe that's my guy right now also Janis Ante Cumpo from you know can I say teams

shit you can say teams from the Milwaukee Shane you can say teams Shane you sound so different right now sorry I'm sorry yeah Janus Ante Coupo more always constantly honest. And Tyrese Max, he's another guy. I'm pretty excited on more for points. Maybe less assist, but definitely more for points. Dude, you took the words right on my mouth. Okay. So that's our

take. Now it's time to lock in yours with prize picks. Don't just stand your faves. Stand on business. Win real money with your best takes. On prize picks, you can mix and match player projections from different sports. Combine your favorite football players with players from women's basketball, hockey, e-sports, and much more. Pick more or less on their stat projection for your shot to win up to 2,000 times your cash today. Price picks is available in more than 30 states,

including California, Texas, and Georgia. And here's the good news. You don't have to make it your whole life. Just submit your picks in 60 seconds or less. Download the prize picks app today and use code Drench to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. That's code Drench. to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup.

Price picks. Run you game. Yeah. So when did you like, because I started drinking pretty early and then, but like when did it like, it never kind of got away from me. When did it start to like where you're like, this is fully getting away from me? It was like an everyday, all day thing or just kind of like when you did drink, it was a disaster?

Yeah, I think, I think too, like it was in combination with like antidepressants and, um, benzodiazepine. Oh, boy. So, like, in combination with those other drugs, and then I just enjoyed drinking. So that's where I really started enjoying, like, cocaine because it just resets, it just brings you back, but it's fake. Yeah. And then you can do that, like, two or three times in an evening until you just can't anymore. And then you're, like, pissing yourself drunk.

Yeah. And then, like, six or seven in the morning comes. around and somebody has to take care of you um and you know i did that for a while and i think the thing that really well i mean my wife was really the thing that motivated me to um change it up but even then like i thought that i could drink like a gentleman you know yeah so i tried to do that for like a different glass and like yeah i was like i'm gonna have a nice glass of whiskey and then that would always turn into like you know 18 beers um and i just you know i thought i'm happy now i can drink but it just there's something deep in me something deeply rooted that just wants it to go

completely off the rails you get tore out the frame that makes sense so after yeah i see what saying so you pretty much have a couple drinks and the this the train starts fucking rolling it's like all right yeah once i break the seal man i'm ready to go for like two or three days yeah it's kind of sick though yeah i mean it was fun yeah that's the other thing too is like i had a good time yeah it was fun i had a lot of good times i had a lot of bad times but like those few bad times were bad enough to uh you know outweigh the good times i guess yeah well also too i feel like there's a thing with aging where it's like it is fun and then the older you get you're like dude like i have to either fully pursue this and become like an old drinker or just like

stop basically or like really lighten it down like I really I don't even like like drinking that much anymore like it's it's like obviously I do like if you give me three drinks I'm like I love this yeah put me out in the sunlight on the beach

I'm like this is amazing but like just like as a daily or even like a semi-frequent thing it's just like dude after you stop for a while and you start again you really feel shitty even after only like three or four drinks the next day I'm just like ugh yeah feel terrible and like three or four drinks and knowing I'm going to feel bad like that's just

exactly it's kind of the worst you might as well not do it or it might as well just really do it dial in yeah yeah getting not on and off it it would be nice to hire like a team of people who would really manage getting off and on the wagon to stay with you at every moment like pull you down yeah as soon as you grab coke they're like smack it out of your hand yeah or they test it yeah yeah test it for you calling hookers they like man he's drunk right now he can't just hang up thank you team thank you like tag your phone from you me. But then at that point it wouldn't even be fun.

I know. Because it is like, like you said about the gambling. It's like the danger element of it. Yeah. It's like, this guy's got a bag of heat. It might kill me. Or it might be a good night. Might have baby laxative in it, which...

Yeah, that's a big thing in Coke. A lot of laxative and coke. A lot of laxative and coke. It's not how you got into the lax maybe. Maybe. Maybe. You were chasing the dragon lax with the goat. The lax dragon.

The lax dragon. The lax dragon. dragon it always made me laugh the coke the baby laxative and coke was always so funny

because I knew guys who shipped themselves at work from coke they'd be like ah the shit of fucking baby laxative and they would go buy more coke that day

and I'm like grow slow it down yeah I mean that's that's when it really got off the rails for me

I had a guy in Nashville that sold vintage clothing and sold cocaine it's hilarious it was like two of my favorite things yeah true

and you know he was looking me up with like really pure stuff and that's when it got to where I was like I would keep a little corner of a bag to get me going the next day if I had meetings or writing sessions and stuff and that was no good um couldn't even use that like a gentleman no I couldn't I've talked to people who try to claim Coke gentlemen and I've yet to

see it I've seen it you've seen Coke gentlemen and I always thought that I could do it like they have like the nice like like silver platters with like lines and they're drinking wine and listening to like records and shit and I was always really into that idea. Yeah. It looks very charming. Yeah, it does. It would always turn into like three, four guys in a bathroom

huddle around a toilet. You see the fucking Chargers game? Yeah, talking about sports, snort and coke. Yeah, I've heard people try to say that. Like, well, actually in, like, Columbia, they don't even use coffee. They just do, like, a little bit of Coke every morning. It's just like, how's that going? Well, they chew on it? Yeah, the leaves, yeah.

but it's kind of like in this business especially like in the arts community like you recognize like wealthy people there's like like super lowbrow folks like do drugs and smoke cigarettes and then middle class like kind of boycotts that whole lifestyle and then the upper ash they do it too oh yeah you know people were that was what i was really surprised by it was like the amount of people doing casual coke and people smoking sigs I still rip SIGs, but... Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the caffeine SIG combo is the... It's the best. Yeah, kind of, you can really get by on that, honestly. That's what... That's me right now.

Yeah, I was a big nicotine caffeine guy before I gave both up four days ago. But I fell to those little things. Not the pouches, the like little... They're like a tablet that dissolve. Oh, yeah? Yeah, I would do them, but I have such a sensitive system. I would have like a coffee and then I...

Sometimes those nicotine tablets would turn on me and it's just like the head rush from too much nicotine. too fast is like yeah I am again I'm just being a giant pussy right now but those those zim patches give me hiccups do yeah oh yeah no they I almost threw up in front of my family I was walking I was at the airport I was with Sean and I was just trying to be a bad just started doing the little nicotine tabs and I'll be honest I felt so fucking cool like when I was doing like you know like when your kid you're like sigs are fucking cool I had the nicotine patch I just something about keeping something your bottom lip just strikes me as so macho yeah

And I was so happy to be like, dude, this is sick. I'm with my kids. I'm with Sean. So I'm walking through the airport with my thing sticking out of my lip. And then we got to baggage claim and I was like, and I almost fucking vomit. I didn't take it out and threw it on the ground. I was like, Sean, I'm about to throw the fuck out, dude. That's tight.

Yeah, I'm a giant bitch. But at Desjardin, we speak business. We speak startup funding and comprehensive game plans. We've mastered made to measure growth and expansion advice. And we can talk. your ear off about transferring your business when the time comes. Because at Desjardin business, we speak the same language you do, business. So join the more than 400,000 Canadian entrepreneurs who already count on us and contact Desjardin today. We'd love to talk, business.

But yeah, there is something to it though, man, of like, because I do have that just desire to constantly, like miniscually alter my consciousness. I always want to do something. And I have noticed it when I without like caffeine now I'm kind of like I should have one drink before bed like there's always some kind of shit that I want to do like just even a little bit the mushroom microdosis so I've been trying to just like oh yeah which I'm not against him at all but there is something in my head where I'm like I should get a little bit fucked up today now me and my dad talk about it all the time because my dad's like that yeah and like he just he really especially like going before playing a show he's like I don't know what to do because

I need something to alter my state of mind before I go and do this. I just want to feel good because especially he's got like arthritis and like he's like just, he's 72 so he's tired. He's like he's aging and he doesn't like it and he wants to feel something. Yeah. So he's like, yeah, you know, I'll have like, maybe I could do like one drink. I'm like, it's probably not a good idea. He's like, this guy wanted to give me a Jaeger bomb.

You think that would be good? And I was like, no. I try to get him to do that. Who is this guy, by the way? Yeah. Who's this guy being like, hey, 70-year-old? Here's a Yeager bomb. I know, man.

That's what I'm saying. Like, people have, like, no inhibitions when they're, like, getting fucked up. They want to drag somebody else down. 17-year-old man, that's a low-hanging fruit. Hit him with the bomb. I'm going to bring this guy down with me. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, my dad quit drinking when I was probably, like, fourth or fifth grade.

And I remember, but he, dude, he would drink, like, 60 ounces of coffee a day. Not exaggerating. He would drink two 24s and then a 16. And I remember asking him like, dude, like, what's up with it? Because I would like go to work with him

and try to even drink one 24 ounce cup and I, you know, I'd be fucking spinning out. And I'm like, why do you drink so much coffee? And he was like, dude, I quit drinking. You got to abuse something, man. He's like, he's held it down like that. Now he's like slow. He had some atrial fibrillation so he chilled.

He doesn't do as much coffee, but now it's just like four cigars a day. He's got to get, he's addicted to the buzz. I might be, I'm a bit of a buzz man myself. I just need, I just want the buzz. I don't want to get super fucked up, but I do need the buzz. Bit of a buzz man myself. A bit of a buzz Aldrin.

Was it, I can't remember if it was you or your brother that said, uh, one of my favorite quotes of all time, I think was from your dad was like, I need you from the neck down today. That's my dad hit me with that. That's so tight. Such a dickhead. That's a great line, though. Yeah. I was working, I was working demolition with him and I was like trying to give up.

Because like, eventually I went to college and became a man. I was still doing demolition with him. yeah i was like what if we did this and yeah you hit me with i just need you from the neck down today but i don't need any thoughts from you i need you to move those rocks from a to b that's so good that's too good yeah he fucking killed me yeah that was i really loved working with him though because i was so bad at that kind of like i was demolition was okay because it doesn't take as much like it's not carpentry where i got to like no line stuff up but there is just something really fun because I would always be, like, I talked about it, my first special.

I'd be just, like, so stoned at work with my dad, and we'd be, like, in, like, a trench down in, like, the ground. It was, like, in, like, the dirt. And I would just, like, be high, like, damn, this is so sick. Me and my dad are five feet on the ground right now. It's fucking so tight. That's awesome. It was tight.

He, every chance he got, he'd be like, bro, you got to figure yourself. This is not, this kind of work is not for you. And I'm like, right on, right on. Right on. He could tell I was kind of a space cadet. Yeah, I'm trying to get my dad on, like, Like my, my pre-show buzz is like, I'll smoke a joint. I call it a Carolina Speedball.

That's not bad. Smoke a joint and drink like two Red Bulls, sugar-free Red Bulls. And then because, like, my anxiety, my stage fright, all that is like, you're tired. You should go to bed. Really? That's what my anxiety does to me. Like, right before I have to do something important, it's like, no, you're actually really tired because it's like a defense mechanism. It's a fight or flight kind of thing.

So I supplement that with, like, Red Bull. And it's not the best, but again, to your point, you know, I've got to abuse something. Yeah. Well, dude, here's my thing. I've tried. I had big dreams of being like a cup of coffee, hit the stage kind of guy. Panic attack. You had a panic attack.

Oh, big time. I've had a 50 on stage. But this was a big one where I was like, oh, my guy, I was telling me that, me and Nate were, this is kind of cracking me up, but slightly unrelated. But last week we were in Tulsa. And one of our friends out there gave us some really. nice weed that he grew it was fucking phenomenal so we did the shows because i know enough because if i if i get high before i do stand up is there's just like so many words involved it's like a nightmare for me to

get stoned but we did the we did the shows and we're going to do the meet and greet after the show so after the second show we smoked this guy left his baseball bat of a joint we smoked half of it and we'd started doing the meet and greet and i almost i was so high that i almost pulled the plug on the meet and greet which would have been a total disaster yeah to get like seven people people in to have like 30 people left and be like guys I'm sorry I'm too fucking high I gotta get out of it or just like make up some bullshit dude there's pictures I have a picture

of my phone it's it's my eyes are crazy just like but yeah that was uh I was talking to my friend Delcallo he's like you should have stopped every single person shook their hand and like sorry I'm canceling the meeting greet I'm too high oh John Delcala yeah he's fucking hilarious he's so funny

he's actually here he's here right now but yeah that was yeah for me I used to when I asked you earlier about the um go to different cities and you're like wow years have passed and i just feel like a different person i had that in buffalo the first one of the first headlining things i did was in buffalo just an absolute nervous wreck of being like i shouldn't be here this is fucked up i'm gonna fuck this up i'm gonna run it was just nonstop and then i got there this year and i just felt great and i was like damn i was fucked up i didn't realize how fucked that was like three years ago

it's pretty cool it's fun when you go to a new city and you know you can feel that growth yeah Yeah, but I was too high on stage the other night, actually. You got two stoned? In Little Rock. No. Yeah. And it was Halloween, so I was dressed like an asshole. And I was too high.

And I saw a video on myself, and I was just looking at my eyes. And like, but on stage, what was happening was like, I get so high that I have like this like outer body, you know, like, you know, like, you know, I can kind of see what's happening. And then I'll come back to it. I'm like, I'm singing right now. That's wild. I'm singing. I'm yelling at these people. Dang.

Through a microphone, it's crazy. So is that a good, do you feel good when you go out of body like that? No. Okay, I was going to say, it's not. I've done that during stand-up, and I'm like, I'm glad you enjoy that because I don't like that at all. I completely leave my body and I'm speaking in my brain. I can hear other words in my brain.

It's not good. No, that's why I can't smoke weed to do stand-up. I can maybe a little bit, but if it's like a, like a show where I've sold tickets or anything, it's like, I, because I would, like, when people would happen to me, it's like I would, I used to be, I wanted to be one of those guys, too, like, get blazed and go do stand-up and, like, people would laugh. And while people were laughing, I would just, like, almost forget what I was doing. I'd be like, all right, I have to keep talking now. This is weird. I'm eliciting this, like, primal response from them. It's just not. It's not good. I was thinking about it last night, like, actually playing a show. Like, because, you know, when I'm playing, I work really hard to try to be as present as possible and try to be in the moment as I can. But sometimes you just can't help but, like, have outside thoughts that come in. Yeah.

It's like transcendental meditation. You've got to just try to find your happy place again. But one of my thoughts last night was, like, how willing I am to believe that somebody would buy a ticket just to come and stand in the front row and laugh at me. You know? so that was a that was that was a brainwark you had a brainworm had brainworm oh that's brutal rfk man it slipped in there and it was like these guys are laughing at you right now what i don't know why i came into my brain but it got in there and i was like i just battled that i was like no there's no way they're laughing at me that would be i would never even think it for a second yeah it's really

weird no i get it though dude well i mean with music at least with music it's like People can talk while you're playing. You're not, like, expecting them staring ahead silently. Oh, yeah. Stand up. If I see someone even whisper to their friend, I'm like, they hate me. It's all over. And it's like, I'm watching it go down.

Or I'll see people's faces and I'm like, because if someone, if you're playing music and someone's just staring normal, are you like, what the fuck? Why is that person not smiling or anything? You just play. I mean, we played a festival the other day. It was like the worst crowd of the whole tour. Really? we were on like right before riley green

and riley green has a pretty specific fan base and everybody in like the you know the VIP pit it's the worst when they have like the VIP pit and then the GAs in the back because like all my people are about there yeah yeah because they're like we're spending $30 for a ticket you know like we're not headlining so I get it all my people are back there so I'm trying to keep that in mind

but everybody up here just doesn't give a shit so hard that it's it's it's you know offensive yeah that sucks people are like leaning on the rail like texting or like scrolling on instagram and like i'm just watching these people just like yawning and just like sitting down and like talking to each other like full volume to talk over what i'm doing but uh oh piss me off but the asl lady was like super into it at that festival and that kept me going oh you had a sign language lady there yeah she was rocking what she was doing she was doing in your lyrics?

Yeah. That's kind of nice. I never thought about that. It's always fun to watch. But we did like a last minute set list change. And I wanted to go ask her like what she did for that. Because we added a song to the set that we didn't like brief her about. She was able to just kind of let it fly.

Like on the flies, like what is she saying? Like is she saying it like after I say it, she says it? Because obviously she can't do it at the same time. Yeah, true. Because I didn't tell her this song. So like, is she kind of like bullshitting the folks in the crowd? She's like, he's saying this right now, but I actually said it on the last verse. Dude, I can't get over the thought of just a guy going to one of your shows

and then the middle is being like, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah. And laughing. That'd be crazy. Yeah, laughing. That'd be crazy. It is crazy. That's all I want. I would love that's, it's what you're worst nightmare. I'm going like, dude, that's my best case scenario.

This guy's a fucking dumbass and just laughing at it. So I'm like, perfect. Yeah. That's funny. I would say I've like I talk to people who do music and they're like I don't know stand-ups harder and I don't know

I've played music before live and it's like getting the instant feedback with stand-up helps big time but like that was my big thing you've done a song and you're like I don't know if they all

like I don't know if people like this or not that like kind of fucked me up we try to we try to do our set like where there's not any dead space yeah there's no moment for a lull yeah

because that's the part where you start to feel any kind of hesitation yeah like how do you battle through that again with stand-up it's like you get laughs or you don't so you're very clear you're like i'm doing great i'm doing bad whatever but yeah with music it was just kind of people just like staring at you talking and listening and then afterwards you get like you're smattering of applause but it's interesting because you you come around to like when you have a when you have a house full of people who all came to see you that's when you get like the real like reciprocation and you can tell you

you're doing something right but you do have to go through like a number of like stinkers you know yeah and when you have like two or three of those in a row which is which was kind of the case this last week was like two or three in a row where the crowd was just like not great yeah and like it's nothing to do with them like sometimes it could just be like it's a Thursday night everybody worked all day um the show goes to like 11 o'clock people are tired You know, whatever it is, you can get in your head about it. But then you finally get to a show where everybody's locked in. It's a weekend.

Everybody's happy to be there. And they really give you that reciprocation. That's what we're hunting. Yeah, true. That makes sense. That was, I remember I had a, with acting, I was always like, well, with acting, like, you just can't tell if you do good or not. Like, stand up, people laugh.

Acting, you just do it, and that's just it. And I had that in my head where it was kind of like just me coping. Like, you just never know. Then I was on a set and everyone, someone finished their seat. seen the whole set burst out in applause and I was like fuck god damn it yeah there is a metric for acting I've just never gotten it before oh man that's a tough realization acting's weird because it's like you're just like you do your best and they go all right that's good move on and you're like what the fuck is it good or not they're like yeah we'll figure it out you're like fuck it's

kind of like that in the studio when you're recording really yeah oh yeah I guess you do have someone there's like all right we'll we'll mash it together oh yeah that would make me nervous yeah this is an ad by better help things always seem to get frantic and overwhelming as the end of the year approaches and the shorter colder darker days don't help it can make you feel gloomy and melancholic at times to be honest that's why now especially now it's important to take a second to reach out and connect with the people around you meaning like if you're on a crowded subway. Grab their arm.

I've been thinking about checking in with... I've been thinking about checking in with my daddy. And I actually did talk to my daddy. He caught a fish and he sent me a picture. And I said, that's a hell of a fish, Daddy. I love you, daddy. And he said, don't talk to me like that, boy. But I will kiss him before the New Year's over.

Taking that first... I mean, you know, like a peck. taking that first step to check in is an easy and simple thing to do more often than not you'll probably be kicking yourself why you didn't do it sooner and guess what that's also true for therapy um all right there's another rift here's another riff here we go therapy is an excellent addition to any support system because well i've already said this before most of your friends and family are probably giant dumbasses so it's helpful to have somebody with a little bit of goddamn education talk to you about your life problems although sometimes they can just be

dumber than your family in other way, so you've got to be careful. But it is an opportunity to get outside perspective. It can teach you positive coping skills. Talking with a qualified therapist can make a world of difference and thanks to BetterHelp, it's never been easier to find the right therapist for you. They have over 12 years of experience matching people with credentialed therapists. So this month, don't wait to reach out whether you're checking in with a friend or reaching out to a therapist yourself. BetterHelp makes it easier to take the first step. Our listeners get 10% off the first month at BetterHelp.com slash MSSP. That is BetterHelphelp.com slash MSSP. Guys, in terms of shows, I will actually be in Naples, Florida this weekend. Please come out.

117, 118. That's this weekend. Naples, Florida. It's going to be huge comedy on state, Madison, Wisconsin. I believe it's sold out, but I think I added a early Saturday show. So Madison, Wisconsin, Get on that if you wish. And then 1219, 1220, Funny Bone Comedy Club, Syracuse, New York. Get out there, guys. You can go to Matt McCusker.com for tickets. And tonight, the day just comes out.

November 4th, come see me, Lamar, and Sean at Optumonoccus at Creek in the Cave. And there's another one, November 18th. That's another Tuesday, second, first and third Tuesdays every month. Come see me, LaMere, and Sean. Thank you so much. We do the Chappelle show.

back to the show have you uh i guess you sit in like audition tapes i did one before that's a pretty terrible feeling oh it's pretty horrible i sent one in i sent one in for uh this netflix thing did you yeah i sent one in guess what i sent one in i just my one connection in in the life i happen to know the producer of this show no callback I thought I was going to finally get the Nepo baby out. I was like, dude, I know the producer. Slight little family, you know, a little family action. I was like, here we go.

I was, I would have taken in a fucking heartbeat. I don't care. But yeah, no callback. Damn. NCB. And then I met, I was on a plane with somebody who was working. I saw they had like a bag with they're on that show. I should have just pressed her.

I mean like, yeah, what the fuck? What's going on? What the fucks? Do you know who my cousins? uncle is. We're about to get kicked off this flight. You've made to do who my cousin's uncle is? Who I've met once?

I did. I actually got a callback, but I was out of the country. Oh, really? Yeah. Good for you. But. Well, you're doing some acting? I thought about it, man. They called me because they wanted me to do this part.

And like, oh, dude, yeah, you had a, you were, you were, you were. I kind of had a little, but it was a small part. Still, yeah. Mine was minuscule. Yeah. No call NCB Sending the tape

Bro, it feels Although I've gotten better with that Like the I've gotten out of my head About a lot of that shit Where it's like Just do it man Who cares

Yeah Just show your fucking ass I just Like have you ever seen like People's like Audition tapes When they like get out there They're like

Here's an audition tape It's like They're always so embarrassing It's totally embarrassing So I'm really worried about that One day There's one of me now Flowing around

It's fucking stinks And I just Yeah But again, I've just learned to just be like, whatever. I don't, I'm just going to let it kind of rip. Right. Yeah, you know, I really, I don't worry too much about humiliation that much as much as I used to. I know, man, and I don't either.

I try not to. I think honestly, like, like, microdosing helped a lot with that. Yeah. It helped with my panic attacks. Like, even now when I get too high, I'm like, just enjoy it because it's going to be over. Just let this be an experience. True. I just look at my drummer, like.

that is the kid If you're too high You do have to tell a person You gotta tell somebody If you don't tell anyone It gets worse and worse and worse I fucked myself recently on inedible And I like

I held it in for the longest time That I eventually just told one person Instantly I feel so much better Oh dude I quoted you on Halloween Actually I got on the mic I was like We're through the worst of it now

I really did Thought I had acid figured out I'm like guys I thought I was good It was three hours in it's 12 hours long. We're through the worst of it now. And I said that to the audience.

And they're like, what? What are you talking about? And I almost broke that fourth wall and told him, like, I'm going to be honest with you guys. I'm way too high to do this. But you can't say that. I feel like they would like it. They would enjoy it? I think so.

I'll tell them next time. As long as you're not at the sober nation, dude. But guys, I've got to be honest, I'm way too fucking high for this. Yeah. Sober nation, they wouldn't appreciate it. Yeah, that, uh, yeah, we. for me is a it's an interesting one

I that was when I started early I at 19 years old I was like this is the answer to literally all my problems and then I started just bugging me out at like my mid 20s late 20s every there's like a guaranteed panic attack and now now it's the same thing

like if I start bugged out so many times that I just look at my like watch and I'm like all right well I'm gonna bug out now for an hour and then you know it'll be over and then that's it yeah so sometimes I do wonder I go why do I even do but I feel like I need a little bit of THC in my brain I think it fully leaves my system I can feel it and I feel like weird

it's interesting feel like serious yeah when I swear to God when the THC when it all goes I get real fucking like I'm gonna go to fucking confession and fucking go to confession yeah I get like really serious I'm gonna start practicing the circums wow or just whatever other stuff too that's sick yeah become like a 1950s father Oh, wow, dude. You know what I mean? I just feel like, I don't know, it's a weird feeling.

Start tugging your shirt in? I want to tuck my shirt in so bad, dude. I'm too fucking coward, too chicken shit. I like the feeling I'm having my shirt tucked in. Man. Like, I genuinely really enjoy it, and I'm just too much of a coward to pull the shirt you around all the time. When I started wearing my pants high and tight, you know, and my true waistline, tugging my shirt in, I felt like a real man.

Yeah, you feel amazing. Ready to talk about sports. Fuck. I'm gonna talk I'll get a good day where I'll be tucked in and then I'll just I'll just doubt myself

I want to talk but that's kind of where I'm at right now it's a nice talk yeah what do you guys think man dude well dude this is your second time here

dude you're a fucking yeah you're one of the best guests I think we've ever gotten thank you I'm telling you next time it's in the car it's third time around we'll get the big Shane

you'll be in the beautiful If we're going to get the big dog here next time, it'll have it. Big dog, it would be nice. That's what, hey, my theory of podcasts is more than merrier. Whenever we, Shane's like, we have a guess, I'm like, yes, easy. Now we have three brains. You guys, you guys make it easy. It's just a, it's a fun, it's a fun way to do it.

Yeah, it is. I did notice that. When I did my little, like, press thing, a lot of podcasts, do you have a lot of formulas. Yeah. So, yeah, we don't have any, so. Oh, we have a formula here. If we run out of material or stuff to talk about, we turn on Sean LaMarinate. we start to attack them very personally and uh and if that and if that fails then we just make

basically Nate Lamare do stuff from their podcast on the year like do that thing you do on your podcast so we like then we do that so that's our formula talk as much as we can turn on them so what's next man what's the what do you got going forward you got the album out man the album fucking rules i'm dead serious i was blessed that thing it's awesome thanks man so we got the b sides coming out which uh there's a song on the record called no room for blue so we're calling like the uh the b sides release like the deluxe edition we're calling it no room for blue there's all the songs we didn't have room for oh that's cool yeah and there's a bunch of tunes on there that we were excited about but that's kind of the deal with like making a record

It's like, you work really, really hard, and then the labels, like, not yet, you know, go back in, do some more. We don't really hear anything yet. And then all the stuff that you really like, you get an opportunity to release it on, like, the B-Sides. So that's what's happening on Black Friday. It'll be out for Record Store Day. And you can get that in our physical copy, but we'll be releasing it digitally in April on Record Store Day in April. I don't know if I was supposed to say that. We can't always believe it if you can.

Yeah, it's all good, though. I don't care. Yeah, but tonight we're rehearsing for Austin City Limits. So we're doing Austin City Limits tomorrow, taping that at the Moody Theater. That'd be a good opportunity for us to play all these songs live with the strings and the horns and the background vocals. and finish up this run, man.

I'm going out to L.A., doing a residency out there with Chris Dave and Corey Henry at the Blue Note. Then off for the holidays. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. How's the residency work? You just get the chill there for, like, how long? I think we're doing four nights, two shows a night.

Sick. Yeah. That's awesome. It would be fun. It's kind of post up in L.A. It's a good opportunity to, to get together with folks you don't get to see that often.

Yeah, yeah. You know? That's cool. And it's also, it's a different thing. It's like a different, we play like Jazz Fusion. So we just kind of let everything go. That's cool. Everything hang out.

It's kind of fuck around. Yeah. Nice, man. Well, hell yeah. Yeah. Well, dude, Marcus, thank you for coming, man. Thanks for having me, bro. You bought me another week.

Now I can survive for one more week and figure it out. Anytime, brother. Dude, thank you, man. Thank you. Later. Watch new episodes of Matt and Shane secret podcast on Spotify. Do it.