Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast - Ep 608 - WrestleMania (feat. Cody Rhodes)

Episode Date: April 13, 2026

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Wow Wow Wes. Hey, you're not masturbating in here, are you? What up in God? What are you doing? What are you doing? Some certain much bells in here. Well, that, man. What's going on, man?

You in here, baby. Get in here. Give me hugs. You're getting to get me. Back, green, you're running, man. Oh, man. Don't put the belt. Don't put the belt.

You know, this is, you got quite a scene in here. What's going on? I don't know, I don't know. I'm going to do with Australia. You know, this is free spirit, one minute. Just watch you've been rising fall of Reggie Binkins. Oh, man. It's pretty good.

Well, thanks for, thanks for having me in your home. Thank you so much, dude. This is a type of energy I need this guy right here. It's my guy. All right, man, we're going to go do this pod. What we got going on? I'm turning on the TV. Why do you have it so loud?

You're right there. Oh, man, I love it. All right, man. What's going to work? Yeah, I'll be, I'm coming. How does it feel? I don't know. That was the last thing.

The bag's on you. Yeah, the bags on me. Hello. The bear's going to cry. Lambert, you, are you crying, Lamar? Are you crying, Le Mare? I'm crying, dude. which is very surprised.

A good surprise. Yeah. It was tough to keep you out. Normally you're asleep by one. So I thought we could sneak in there while he'd still be asleep. Yeah. That'd be nice. Instead, he tried to go to the gym this morning.

And I had to be like, no, dude, get back in your room. I have a meeting. I don't have a meeting. And he was like, oh, okay. I have a meeting works really well on a lot of people. It was, yeah. I have a common. Oh, I don't think it's even like the parlin.

anymore but I have one where I tell my one buddy and he knows I'll be like I got to zoom and the zooms I don't think people are even zoom anymore but he knows that just means I'm leaving I gotta go it's a good move well what's going on thanks for coming yeah yeah we're in Austin huh yeah yeah this is it yeah my uh my dad grew up in uh East Austin and I feel like I forget that and yeah I feel bad because I'll come into town I got two nephews who are at the University of Texas just that's awesome forget to say hi breathe right over them they're out there doing it you're gonna say hi to him today nope you guys fucking no we're already meeting yeah yeah your dad's from east

austin i didn't know that yeah no he was uh he was from east austin his uh his whole story uh coming up in austin was just like especially when he got into his wrestling career in the american dream he was the a plumber son yeah my grandfather virgil was a plumber but the story he would tell, and you see it in a lot of the old territory wrestling interviews, is that, like, they were down on their luck style plumber. But my mom knows better

that he was a non-union plumber who was killing it. He was doing very well. And Dusty, my dad, was like his pride and joy. You see all these pictures of him in, like, full-blown brand new cowboy outfits and like the red wagon and everything.

I mean, they weren't super, super rich or anything like that, but it's funny to hear the story as it's told later in my dad's career because, you know, I'm the common man that, you know, dad was a plumber. I came up on the streets. Yeah, yeah, there's some elements of that. I don't know about, you know. There's a lot of big, like my life ends up very much. Have you seen the movie Big Fish? Yes. Yeah. Okay. So my life, I felt like that movie hit me in a way that no movie has ever hit me. When my dad passed away and we, we're at a service, it is, literally like the scene in Big Fish where you realize, man, a lot of this stuff was real. Like a lot of these stories were, geez, like these characters are, it's accurate, which is a crazy thing to think. But yeah, he's the lore. It was there. You're just calling him out on that one detail. Well, this is what I don't mind it because like, hey, he's a plumber son. They grew up on a

car like, technically. So it's a story. It's real. It's real. But I always laugh. Like my mom knows a little better on that how he was he was treated very well. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'd like to hit my dad with that. My dad, I like to tell him he was fake poor. Yeah. He loves crying poor. Oh, I'm one at ten.

We didn't have pot to pit to pill. You know, all that shit. It's like, bro, you're spoiled, dude. Shut up. Free school. We call it a Springsteen when you pretend to be more working class than you are. It's Bruce Springsteen. I feel like that's maybe all generational.

Yeah. Is they seem to, for how. bad it was. It seemed to get everything they ever wanted, you know. Yeah. Everybody got the big family and everything, and I get it. College was 20 bucks. House. House was $150. Right.

They're doing great. And then, so, because we're talking about your hours, sleeping hours. What's, what, when are you up? When are you down? That's a good question. LaMere, when are you up, when are you down? Wait, why are you talking to me? No, no, this is actually important. What are you trying to talk shit?

What are the fucking about? LaMere, we've got guys in our group that run at a completely different speed that they're, you know if you text him at 7 a.m. You'll receive a reply at 1 p.m. That's when he's up. He's got most of the squad.

Okay, yeah. Other than Matt, Matt's away. The rest of the squad is see, I'm from like a different I think I'm misplaced in time. I'm up super early. I'm a total goody two shoes. I'm also a real let everyone know. I'm working real hard here guys.

Like it's speaking my language. Most of the guys who wake up early, let everyone know they're up. Yeah, they're really like it's a contest. Just as you know, I'm awake right now. I do it every single time. It's the best. I love to like, because we were just filming a TV show and I had to wake up every day like six. Every day I would text all my friends.

Be like, dude, wake up. You bombs, dude. The struggle, man. Yeah, rise and crying. Christ. I'm already working. There is something beautiful getting up early in the morning. There's a whole day that you don't.

That's just it is nice. It's awesome. I, uh, I discovered the super old man thing that I do. I was describing it as maybe the most old man thing I do. We just went to the beach with my girls. And I go down to the beach right when the, the, guess the chair part, like the chair person opens. And I'm there waiting to get my beach chairs.

And then I put stuff in the chairs. Yep. So that people know these are taken. Yep. These are taken. And I was standing around with a group of men that. We're much older. And talking about things a lot different than what I would be talking around.

I thought, yeah, this is where I'm supposed to be. Yeah. This is me. Now, I have two little kids. Any chance you can get to just like get it like a solo 15 minutes is pretty nice. Yeah. I would wake up. We're at the beach.

I'm going to set the tent up now. I'm going to set it up. It's nice too. You're like, oh, it's probably low tide now. I'm going to push it back a little high tides coming. Start gauging the tides. This is all bullshit. I know the tides.

I love that, though. concept of tides. I don't know how long this lasts or when they go back out. I have no clue. I love it. You're thinking about the tides. Got it, man.

That's the type of talk I want. Yeah. Because I just make it up. I just make it up. I go out there and just go like, yeah, probably low tide. I will. This is my theory on it.

You guys with your kids, you can be wrong about everything all the time. Yeah. To your little kid. You can go, the sun explodes at night. Yeah.

And they go, holy shit. Yeah, but then they start going to school. And then they start going to. Sure. But I think for like six years. You have just like, I've never been wrong. No. I haven't been wrong in six years.

I can say anything. Complete free reign. Tides are going to be gone in 20 minutes. Yeah, I'm running up against kindergarten right now. She's debunked a couple of my things. And I'm like, yeah, well, your teacher doesn't know. She's starting to investigate the investigators. She's starting to find out some things.

Yeah, you're undefeated for a while. Yeah. You're undefeated. But it's also to the Tides thing, just to get back. Sure. You're not totally wrong. Do you, do you, I feel like you may not know exactly what you mean. It was like low tide, high tide.

There's something to what you're saying that's accurate. Absolutely. It's come. Water's coming in. Water's going to happen. Yeah. I'd be surprised if anybody here knew timing, like how long is it a high tide and low tide? See, I got observed.

Are you talking like 12 hours or? No, it's like, I think it's every. I know the moon controls the ties. I got that. You're ready to go. Yeah, I can talk. That's all you need. One fact.

I can talk tides. Oh, I look at wet sand. And then I, if I see the waves aren't exactly making it to the wet. at this point. I go, Todd must be going out. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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What was the shrine? No, you started getting some pussy in there and you had to find a shrine. Le Maire, what was the shrine? It was just like a, it was like a Cofy Kingston and Orange Cassidy. Oh, see? Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, he had the figures in there.

We were like, well, man, dude, it's time to put down the figures. But he had them hidden in one of the cabinets. Honestly, why did you put him down? Why did you take him down? I don't know. I just, I don't know. I'll tell you, if you have a lady friend in there, be you. Keep your figures up, man.

Sure that. You can keep I'd say you went in there you can't be in self if a woman's in there I mean you can't go I'm watching

cartoons and playing on my video game it was a lot of I noticed a lot of sensory overload TV was jacked up on a documentary and then you were playing your RGB

when you were deep in that obviously there cannabis swirling in the air A lot of meat And then like a very makeshift cleaning system Where things were stacked Yeah, yeah He's waiting to clean

He stacks them weekly I'm on my way to cleaning It's like rings of a tree You can see the last time he cleaned By the layers of trash You go that was April Oh man Well be proud of your figures man

Yeah Yeah don't be afraid of that I am jealous My nephew has all my figures now Yeah And I saw him and I was like Fuck I was one of where those went.

I want them back, did you take them back? I should. Any grails in there? Anything that was real? I was a big DX guy. So I was like, when I saw the DX figures,

I was like, damn, I wish I had those guys back. Stone Cold, obviously. It's a classic. What was it about DX that you, was it them just? They were just being bad boys. Sound suck it.

Suck it was incredible. Suck it was huge. That was the biggest, I don't know what the, that was R6, 7. Yeah, it was. Every single kid if a camera was on. I don't know if that was, like, what genius it was, if that was Xbox himself or there's just like an absolute genius somewhere that was like, here's what we're going to do.

Because that was one of my favorite things. Yeah, do you know who came up with Sucket? So I think if you kind of pull the thread on Sucket, there's going to be a two or three guys who try to say it was them because at first people were doing the crotch chop. Yep. And DX, classic WW.E style, let's market this. We'll just cross our arms. And it's a whole other thing. I'm going to say it's someone, it's a Xbox,

probably if anything, Sean Michaels would get the credit for it because he was doing this kind of before. But it's like the Fargo strut, which is what Rick Flair does, that whole deal. If you really look at it, it's hard to always determine who came up with it first. More wrestling, the rule is whoever got it over. Whoever made it famous, it becomes theirs,

especially in like the 70s and 80s. They were just Bob Dylan songs, just straight ripping the lyrics and putting them into promos. They would do similar stuff in different territories, but there's no cable at the time. Yeah. So it was really whoever marketed it and patented it. Prime example, Hulk Ogan's Hulkup,

every wrestling baby face pretty much used to do the hit you. Nope, not anymore. And they'd start coming back, start coming back. And then he made it such a big thing. The Hulkup was so the finger point that nobody else could do it anymore. And if you do it today, you're like a crazy person. You try to Hulk up at any point,

even though that was a common baby face. Basically, they'd be selling, hey, I'm done with you hitting me. Yeah. Like now I'm coming back and the crowd could feel it. But yeah, wrestling, whoever gets it over, it's theirs. So it's pox, pretty much. I'd say so, yeah. That's awesome.

Tim or Sean. Tony Ayo came up with, you can't see it. Yeah. You don't think so. Hold on, here we go. Lamar's activated. I mean, by the rules, John Cena got him more over, you know? I don't know.

Tony Ayo did it in a, in and like get rich or die trying but john seems we're doing it for 20 plus years you know where do you stand on i think you're going to be the you're going to be the boat where is it it's john right you're taking it from yeao

and get you and i have to be the boat get you dude i'm gonna have him break in your room later this week how many people go in his room by the way was that not many you're one of most people don't make get back. That's a tough. Cleaning ladies refuse. Cleaning ladies do not go in. I'm honored. Yeah. I say, because I saw

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WrestleMania? Why? Yeah, man. I don't know. I just, I don't know. I want to go. I don't know.

He got me back into, you got me back into wrestling with a mania like two, two years ago. Dude, I like to say, I got jelly roll into wrestling too. You got jelly rolling into it?

Yeah. So you're responsible for, because jelly is like full-blown wrestler. Yeah. Jelly loves it. How did you get him into it? We were, we're in his car

during the Nashville festival and we were smoking and then we're hanging out. And then I was like, Raw was on Monday. And I was like, I would like to go and he was like, you should go.

He saw, it was a Harley, I think was during the guest. And he was like, dude, I want to do that. And I was like, bro,

you should definitely do that. Damn. Make you validate. And Jellero was a big part of what we do now. Yeah. Thank you. So that was Lamar.

Yeah, the guy is sitting next to a guy going, I think I'm going to do that. And he goes, Yeah, you should. Yeah, that was all me. That was me, dude.

Yeah, but you got to come to mania, man. It's Vegas. Oh, that had to come to mania. But did you, did you get, you got into it because of? He got me into it for a minute. It was, uh, yeah. It was during WrestleMania. And I was like, man, turn this fucking, I don't like watching wrestling, turn this off.

And then I started watching it. And I was like, oh, shit. And then we were watching it. Actually, I watched the last few manias when, uh, yours. When, uh, Taker came back and like all that. I was laying on this couch. Yes, I was laying on the couch. And then when the lights went out and Taker came back, I was like,

everything came back. I was like, holy shit. He, uh, I've told this story before, but he ran to the ring with two brand new, I believe, either hips or knees. He just had double. And this was the first time he'd run. But the blackout when we do it in the stadiums or in the arenas, it's not full like it is on TV.

Yeah. It's you can see a bit. And he rolled in the ring in a way that he could have probably killed a full-blown lion. He had such testosterone. I mean, he was so ready to be standing up. And for that moment, it was incredible just to see how agile, because why I was such a great athlete, agile he was. But then again, in the moment, he hits the chokeslam on rock.

And I told him when he was on my podcast, but I can't believe it happened this way. He literally looked over to me. and I think I missed the moment a little bit because I think he was looking for a little bit of I got you kid. Sheriff's leveled the playing field here but I was just half dead from whatever Roman and I had done but he he completely just winked at me lights went out. I I was in it.

I was so like man it's again like the big fish element of it with what we do the suspension of disbelief what's real what's not you cannot convince me he's not magical. He tossed his lights to go out and save my WrestleMania. So do you know that's how my Eagles love all that all started? No, I had no idea. Okay, so I bounced around NFL-wise.

I'm from Georgia. I'm from Marrieta, Georgia. So as far as teams to root for in Georgia that are safe, the Bulldogs in Athens can't ever go wrong with the UGA. The Braves. the Braves are going to consistently be a good team. I got really into the Falcons as a kid. Michael, Michael came on board.

That's awesome. Two season tickets sold out. I was wearing that number seven jersey every day. I was all about it. And then the worst thing that could have possibly happened in the state of Georgia. Yeah. And then we fell off as a fandom. And then, of course, Maddie Ice and the comeback.

So I always love my home team, but I never. It was never fully juiced in. Yeah. My sister, my oldest sister, she ended up, her big dream growing up, she wanted to cheer for the Cowboys. So she cheered for the Cowboys for two seasons. So most of my family are Cowboys fans.

But I never really had a team. So I bounced all around. Every year I just kind of take a pick. Yeah. Hey, I like a good SEC quarterback. I'll follow him. I, my favorite arena to perform in arena is Wells Fargo in Philadelphia.

It's a hard arena. they like the bad guys more and for whatever reason on a night I had nothing going on this is money in the bank years ago I'm sorry I'm looking at you Lamarer like you know exactly

guaranteed us you know and the way the story we told the match was like maybe they'll get behind Cody because this is kind of an odd group that we don't have a running favorite maybe they'll get behind him they got behind me in this match and the story the match was more about me losing

than winning but after that I thought so strange I'm a Nepo baby in the business. A lot's been handed to me. This is a type of crowd that wouldn't take to me. And from years of performing in front of them, they did. So I always had this Philly love. Fast forward to the biggest match of my life and where my whole life changes

and why the title exists, why I have it here is there on the length is rest of 8040. And after that, I just couldn't. I mean, I dressed in their locker room. Yeah, that's awesome. My life was, my life changing as an entertainer in the wrestling business, all discussed right there in that infrastructure. So I just felt I'm in. I'm in.

And also, good team. Go birds. True. Like, yeah, like. Go birds. Good. Great conversation with Siriani. Everything like a great team.

I'm in. And, you know, everything he did, I felt like I had just something about this place. Yeah. Fast forward to, I want to take my, some of the cameras. guys and one of our writers of WDB, his name's Kersh and our director. They want to go to this Philly's Raiders game in Philadelphia. Like they want to go to the Eagles Raiders game in Philadelphia. And I was like, oh, we can do it.

We can make it work. And I didn't want to go through anybody. I just got a suite, got it catered. I didn't try to do any of these hookups. The same game that I did this, Joe Biden was that. And I'm not kidding. They treated me better. and they treated Joe Biden.

That's kind of unsurprising. That makes sense. I know those guys. I got pictures of me on the field, throwing the ball. I stood by the tunnel. They made everyone in my crew feel amazing. So afterwards,

we're going to leave. We've had the best experience ever, especially some of the crew who, this was just all of it was a bonus. Hey, come back. Come in the locker room. Going in the locker room, doing some local access interview

about how the offensive line played that day. And I'm just talking nonsense, but they treated me like a native son. So every time I go, it gets deeper. Like I can't, because my mom the other day, she asked me, she goes, why are you an Eagles fan? Nothing ever good happened there. And I'm thinking, you were in the ring, Michelle. You were like, that's where they play, you know.

But yeah, that's where it all started. So I'm new. I'm new. It's fun. But man, they do, they've been so good to me. Yeah, the Eagles are awesome. Yeah. Also, going back to the.

nebo baby thing i i don't like that idea at all i hear you hear it about like uh ice cube son all this stuff and it's like the idea of somebody working hard and then putting their kids in a good position to like work hard and do good stuff people resent that i'm like i look at it like a roman senator so you're just bringing more glory to the house so it's like yeah dude it's like house he oh shay jackson bray he brings glory to the house a cube you bring you bring glory to the house of rose i don't that whole thing i i just i'm just not with that man bro it's spot on That's like that's it. I mean, the song, as, I'm a super dramatic person.

And when it comes to wrestling, I take it so seriously for how often silly the job actually is. But I mean, the first words of my song are wrestling has more than one royal family. And it's all about, you know, the hearts, the McMan's, the Guerrero's and finally getting a little, hey, the roads are here, dude. We're going to run the score up. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. I think that's awesome. But you hear people like, ooh, it's like, dude, tell your dad to do better, man. Tell your dad to step it up, man.

Anybody who brings their kids around work and if they're like young boys or whatever and they're thinking about getting into wrestling, I always tell them like, hey, it's going be easy for you. Private jets. You're not going to be commercial. And I can always see like their parents like, stop. You get on the tour bus. Like, hey, you got a little heat in the locker room.

That's okay. Like just, just if it's going to be bad, just lean into it. Yeah. lean into it you know um like wrestlemania somebody called me the golden boy yesterday in a backstage pre tape or a few weeks ago on tv and i thought hilarious because i used to be a job guy here uh i started very low here but after that i decided i'm going to just go in on this and my mania gear a lot of gold like real yeah a little bit of a under the under the cow oh yeah you know i mean yeah you know Yeah. Yeah. You gotta go, dude.

Well, it's hardcore highly like. It seems like a cool move. Big Bob? Yeah. Do you have any bodybuilders in your life? No. Just me. Yeah. Matt's been juiced up for a while. So he was the first guy who taught me how to train. But his life consisted of one night I drove him from Jamestown, New York, to somewhere at upstate New York in the middle of a blizzard

and we get to a red roof in at 7 a.m. legit, barely. This has just been brutal. The show's not until 7.30 the next day and I asked him when he wanted to meet and he's the old school guy who they didn't just set times. They say, oh, call me when you wake up. That thing.

No, tell me the time. Yeah. That's weird. But he was like, I don't know. What is it? 730 now. Let's say meet at 10. What? Sleep for two hours. what? And we'd work out. We'd eat. Then we'd have nothing to do. We'd eat again. He was just very much the first guy I met. That was one thing he did right by me. He taught me about, I guess, proper training and proper nutrition and took me to the gym. And as far as a tag team partner, he was one of the toughest guys in the locker room. So no one ever really messed with any of us.

But then other nights, he'd scare me. I think he, like one night, I was. One night, I was, was in the shower and you know those soap caddies the things you put a bar in a bar soap i guess i was taken too long and he was getting frustrated with him anyways and all of a sudden that soap caddy flew by my head and shattered against the shower wall at like a mariano rivaura speed to the point where i hope he wasn't aiming for me because that would have killed but no he was uh he he has a very grumpy reputation, but I had at the time, I got nothing but respect for it because I needed that. I think that's why they put us together. Give him the most curmudgeon. I mean, his name is hardcore Holly. Let's see how they do. He'd do one thing he did that would always be a lesson,

but a tough lesson. Sometimes he did way cooler stuff than me in the ring. And then they'd build the big hot tag, we call it. The guy's getting beat up. He's getting beat up. He's getting beat up. Finally, the other team they're going to power play style, switch the odds here. And sometimes instead of him getting beat up to tag me in and give me this big glorious moment, he'd just grab a guy in a full Nelson and pick him up and slam him, which is a full Nelson slam, which is a finish basically. And then he'd just walk over and tag me like this. And I'd get in and like, oh, punch.

Drops kick. Just coming and kick him while he's down. And I was already like really plucky. So like, yeah, baby. Like, uh, this guy. So he was the exact right person. Still friendly with him to this day, I think. The exact right person I needed in my life.

A wild one. But never did anything crazy or unsafe because he's got a lot of weird stories. He was great by me. What I needed at the time. What is the training like then? Because you got like it's almost probably similar to bodybuilding. But then you probably have to do a lot of like, I don't know, like agility, balance. Flexibility.

So you don't just like jump off a thing and rip up. everything. Today it's the way NXT operates, which is our developmental system, the performance center. I won't I like how I came up, which was a different system. I came up, I went to OVW

where you got with like-minded people. You'd sit there and watch wrestling. This is before the network. It was WW on demand. It was like 7-9, like on the cable package, watch MSG network shows and stuff like that. I got around people who liked wrestling.

I'd go to the gym. They'd, that was, if you liked it, you'd click today. It's all, they've got it all mapped out really well. They've got exactly what you mentioned. They've got agility. They've got multiple rings, including one that has an extra layer of pad and bounce. If you're going to try big high spots, they've got Sean Michaels. Again, we're talking about probably the greatest in the ring ever.

So that's your head coach. How could you not be good? the system they have down there with the performance that are now is designed for the NIL athlete because they're used to it. I came from baseball. I came for football. I came from gymnastics.

So they need all that. They need a room that's a recovery suite. They need a full-blown weight room, which they have. They need all that. When I came up, you were just doing it. Yeah. Yourself, which I liked because you found like-minded people. I remember my whole class of coming up from OVW,

but the system now, it's a lot healthier. Yeah. a lot healthier to get everybody ready. But the bodybuilding aspect of it, because since 2007, the wellness policy is there. So the bodybuilding aspect of it, there's a couple OGs still who treat it that way.

For the most part, it's all shapes and sizes again. A little 80, 70 style where not everyone is shredded to the gills and not moving. There's a lot of, I guess, better athletes, I suppose. Yeah.

It's less juicing. I would try to put it in because those boys were flying old wrestling's nuts you nailed it you know see old wrestles you see a guy sprint at like

ultimate warrior I'm not saying he was well he probably definitely was but see him just sprint out of the fucking tunnel you're like this guy's the highest guy I've ever seen in my life they uh

it's kind of awesome though yeah there's this crazy clip of road warrior hawk I think running this is pre but talking about that type of energy and flowing through the veins. Yeah. He's running out in a studio TV show.

So his distance he needs to move is about 10 feet to the ring. And then he's going to have to turn to face the little studio camera. Forget if he was saving my dad or if they were saving somebody. But he's running with such everything that he jumps the top rope, nearly hangs himself. the rope gets and then he's able as strong as a bull and the adrenaline and speed

yank is that out save the fall so he never falls he jumps up the top rope where his head he's hard and then he's you know when you're falling and you need something to catch he catches himself on the top rope where they're all like this anyways looking at the heels come on

he's just flying you know the conversation after had to be like what the bro you nearly die just run like when Rick Flair he's old but when he like runs into the turnbuckle and like bounces off of it. Oh yeah. He's just flying.

I think nature boy, if you were to shoot him in today, you know that he could flip up of the side down. He's he's got it. What about the shockmaster? You think he was a little juiced on that? Oh, Shack. Well, the shockmaster might have been juiced on that. Shockmaster's connected to

my family. I don't know if. Oh, I didn't know that. So he's no longer married to my aunt Bobby, but that was my uncle Fred. What? And my dad, I'm trying to word this nicely because I don't know.

I was a kid. Seems like my dad was trying to help Fred out. Okay. And it seems like he was trying to give him a role. He had great run at WWE as Typhoon and tugboat.

So the shockmaster was the role. I don't like to discuss. It doesn't seem like the idea was that well thought. No, it was a stormtrooper mask. It was a bedazzled. It was a bedazzled stormtrooper. It's a stormed river helmet.

That Janie Engels spray painted silver spray paint on it. But the story I've heard is that it wasn't Fred's fall because before when they did Flair for a gold, this guy ends up falling as he busts through a wall. His helmet falls off. And he's the whole thing's dead in the water right that moment. The best part about that is Sid, who's going to WW's Hall of Fame right now, is still trying to hang on to it. Most people in that group are like, this ain't good. We got to get out of here. We can't just go, well, cut. You know, it's alive always with us. But Sid's going, who is that?

He's trying to stay in. But the thing that Fred told everybody is there was a board, a guy named Jackie Crockett, who was a cameraman. He put that board there to just make sure the flare for the goal because it was just a three wall set doesn't fall. That board, apparently. was not there earlier in the day and that board is what did it. I don't know anyway which this ever would have worked. Say he emerges through the wall in his storming around. His fur best.

I'm the shockmaster. And Olli Anderson who's doing his voice from somewhere else. So he's like, he's like, yeah, it's not him talking. He's like lip syncing like he's talking. It's so crazy. But okay. So this happens

and it's funny to the entire wrestling world. Some stuff is so bad. It's funny. We call it a monitor sellout where it's just, oh my God. It's gone so bad. Look at like, let's stay. But I had a very interesting ride home because my dad was mortified. And I'm pretty sure he thought he was going to be fired by Ted Turner and TBS. My uncle was not going to make it in that role. That wasn't going to. So we just drove home from wherever that was in dead silence, like the loss of the games, like that type of,

so all we ever talked about was wrestling and how cool that was. But I knew, it's bombing. We do we do this. Yeah. Yeah, you bomb you get in the car

with everyone drive home silently. Yeah, the bit, the bit didn't work out. What was that? Someone says one thing. Like, dude, shut the fuck up.

Seriously. That's a bad drive. Yeah. And there's always the one guy trying to be like, let's go to Taco Mac or something. Like, no, man. Like, yeah.

My friends. Yeah. We have a, this, I'm thinking of the. Ashok. Oh, it's the funniest bomb ever. My two friends were on stage together and just the crowd fucking hated them. And then we get in the car and we're driving back to our place and it's just dead silent. And then it's like, you guys suck. And then they were like, okay, all right. Yeah,

it's pretty funny. Yeah, we suck. And then after like an hour of me making fun of him, the one dude, just lost his mind and tried to fight it. Oh, no. Then we had a chair. Is it like a house with like five of us. There's one chair we'd all play video games. If you bomb, he's like, dude, you got to sit in the bomb chair. You bomb tonight. You got to get the bomb chair. He kept bringing up the mashup yet and he stood up fully like fight me right now i can't i thought he was joking too he like went to the kitchen he was like you motherfucker so i got in his face joking i was like and then i realized he was serious i was like oh he might he might murder me do you feel it's important though the passion in terms of when you bomb or have that moment you need to have that bad night

yeah for sure but i would never again i don't know why i would say never i spas on so many people after i bombed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think you need that back. Yeah. It's embarrassing though when you if you bomb and then you get mad at somebody else. Yeah. You got to be mad at yourself. Yeah. I almost threw a can of liquid death just the other night. I flubbed the last like two words of my closer. I just like fucked up the clothes and flubbed the words and I was like, all right. Yeah, you guys got the idea. I'm out of here. Sorry about that. And I walked backstage and I was getting like ready just to hurl a full liquid death. And I saw a camera above me. I'm like, Yeah, maybe I'll just chill.

Yeah. I just squeezed it privately. I put against my chest and squeezed it. I saw, like, right before you took a break from stand-up, you got off stage at helium, and I was on the other side of the door, and I was just like, ooh, that sucked. You're like, fuck. And I was like, oh, never mind. Yeah, I don't like it.

Normally, if you bomb, you can just be like laughing off. But every once in a while, you'll see someone like fully like, uh-huh. No, dude, the worst, we did a comedy contest in New Jersey. That was sick. And I had like an okay set. And I remember the guy came up after me and was just like, yeah, this guy started just like trashing me. And I was watching it. I was like, motherfucker.

Shane's laughing. I'm like, it's not funny. And then I, I, I've chilled out for sure. But I remember he was done. He was with his girlfriend.

I like walked up to him. It was just like hours later. Walked up to him. I was pretty funny, man. He was like, oh, okay. And I was like, no,

seriously, I ever do that again? I like pulled him in. I'm like, if you ever do that again, I'll fucking kill you. I swear you got it. He was like, dude, relax.

I'm just kidding. He was right. I'm just being a spas. But yeah, it's okay. As far as like wrestling promos go and the last lines being flubbed, that's one of the worst feelings ever when you think you've got some hot ammunition. And then you come back and realize didn't get, I got 60% of that. Yeah.

And it didn't land. And also you feel like it's everybody else's fault. Because Rlea side, you go out there and it's live. So there's the camera. are there and there's all these other elements. I'll tell you a crazy one that people never take into account now on my bus every now and then I'll try and

do this, but the amount of stuff, physical stuff sometimes in wrestling, so you're just sitting there, you're talking, I'm going to say this, I'm going to say this, and then you realize, like, I'm going to have the title and the mic, and then I might have the glasses on. You think of all these other elements, and

I always, those are where I usually go to blame. For sure, yeah. You'll know, there was one promo I did where I laid the title in front of me, and just told the cameraman, I said, shoot up like it's a big dramatic shot. I can't fuck around with this thing right now. Like, it's so much. Yeah. Yeah, I blame everything else.

Blame everything else. When I buy a fucking crowd, insensitive. Whatever. No matter what, I got a fucking guy before me sucked. When's the last time that you felt you bombed? It happens a lot. I bombed on Friday at the fucking United Center in Chicago. Big building.

It was the biggest. Big money. Literally the biggest arena. And that was actually soundsful. Yeah? Yeah. So it was acoustic-wise. Acoustically, it was terrible.

We fixed it. They were adjusting it the entire time during my set. It took like 25 minutes into my set. They started to fix it. Did you feel that, are you your own biggest critic that you bombed by your standards? Or did you feel you really... It probably wasn't a true...

It wasn't a true... It was fine. The show was fine, but there was definitely like sections of people that could barely hear it. So then you're like, damn, those people wasted their money. Yeah. And like, you feel... Terrible about that. You're a real,

you're a real one. Well, that's the worst. Well, the consumer experience is everything. I feel like the longer you go in any type of entertainment, I like being around people who care. Because a lot,

like a lot of young wrestlers, for example, they're just, just want to body slam him, and then he kicks me up. And we go, they're thinking very much about two of them. Yeah.

And then I think, especially if they go on before Raw or SmackDown there, I'm thinking there was 12,000 people. Yeah. They were, they didn't mind what you did, but you could have brought him in. involved him could have like get them going

excited we're about to go on air versus do kind of your own performance the first uh I did the first arena I ever did I was always like I'm not going to use fucking like fog machines and fucking lights and shit like I'm like that's all fucking corny I just it was the worst decision of all times just stood on a it was just silent in a stage

and I was like we gotta get some fucking lights and shit we gotta spruce this up yeah because I see other comedians do it I'd be like fucking losers. Yeah. And then you kind of have to. That's kind of the George Strait in the country music world

just stands in the center of the stage. Yeah, it turns out I'm not George Strait. So I feel like a lot of people have the turns out I'm not George Strait moment where it's like, you know what? Yeah. Loaded up. Yeah, I'm good.

Mine was night one and then night two, I was like, all right, we got to get like some fog or something. They got one tiny like mall fog machine. It was like 100 yards away from me. There was just like steam coming out of the side, bombed again. I was like, oh, fuck.

That's a work in progress. Yeah, we're figuring it out. Yeah, that's too big of a space just to come out to him, be like, walk. Just walk out quietly. Yeah, everyone's waiting for you. Crazy. That's so funny.

Yeah, it was bad. I used to think it would be funny to come out on stage to ambient music, like the stuff you fall asleep to. Yeah. I tried it once, and I was just like, I'm so. So, he'll pick songs to walk out to because it's funny and the idea of it's funny.

Like, what if I walk? out to like flute EDM of fucking dubstep. And then every time Matt walks out at one of my shows, I'm like, who picked? What is this? Turn this the fuck off. It also plays for three seconds.

It just blasts fucking garbage. And then Matt doesn't play long enough for it to land. And I also run the stage as fast as like it. You never even go, that was funny. He just starts it. He's like, hey, how's everybody doing this guy's out of his mind? Yeah, it's like, boi-o-boa-bo-bo-wow.

Yeah. What's the song? You got the song. I know exactly what it is. I can play it right now. This is a song. How did you come with your theme song? Dude, damn.

Come on. That song, well, speaking of him coming out to land, songs that may not land. Oh, you got to hear this fucking. Hit it. I got a good one right here. Where is this? I think it's, is this one? Oh, here it is.

I found it. No, no, no. It's not that. They're probably sound pretty similar. No, that's right. I am excited.

I'm worried that there's such a long list. Here we go. Let me skip ahead a little bit. It's a good fucking wrestling walkout. Oh, all right. Yeah. I worry though.

It's crazy. The song doesn't really tell us anything about you, right? Other than I privately think that's funny to come out of that. Because to your question, the trick with a wrestling. wrestling song, all the greatest wrestling music, it doesn't need to be a good song. It needs to be a catchy song. Jimmy Hart, the mouth of the South, the manager for Hogan. He was making all that great 90s content music that ended up being everyone's favorite. It was catchy. I like Kingdom,

the song I come out to. But, and I actually think it's those guys are great. Downstate's great. It's great song. It's done amazing things. It's the only walkout song I think WW has that WWE doesn't own, which I don't know how we feel about that. But the issue is I hear it so much that especially at the end of the night, it's if I'm doing the rounds and I'm staying and they're just playing that one song, it gets you. And I heard my daughter the other day, she doesn't know the words, but she was saying like something, she put Paul patrol in it all of a sudden.

It's very, it's very, you can, I've heard people do the something, something, Cody Rhodes, which is just kind of the appropriate way to. sing it and whatnot. As long as you get to the woe. What are they said? Yeah, the way nobody seems to know the words, but they just there's one part of like, something, something Cody Rhodes. And it's

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We'll find her. But. That was a big smoke of marriage guy. Like the. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of bad guys. What's going on with that prick Pat McAfee?

Yeah. What the hell, dude? What a prick. Yeah. How well, you know, uh, I know him pretty well. Yeah. He's a jerk.

Let me see what I can. I'd like to stomp him in Las Vegas WrestleMania. I'm going to beat the fuck out of Pat Mac. That would honestly be awesome. I actually have to open the straight of Hormuz again, though. Oh. Yeah. Fucking bit closed it so I can't go to Vegas.

True. I've been told that some of the people in his orbit, his circle, think he's the next Sylvester Stallone. in terms of TV film I don't know if I'm getting that from what I've watched I have very limited knowledge on Pat other than I love me some college game day

yeah yeah he is very good on college game day well say I know you don't want to hear this he's the fucking man dude yeah I I would say I'm glad I'm glad there are people who like to pitch themselves in these WrestleMania and these big moments.

I'm flattered. Yeah, he wants to be a part of it. I'm flattered. Yeah, that's just, that's his, you're shaking your head, no. What was the matter? Have you turned on Pat? Have you turned on Pat?

This is a Pat friendly house, right? I haven't turned on Pat, but like, too, like, you know, like, it doesn't make any sense. Talk your shit, dude. Yeah, talk it. Like, yeah. Talk it because I'm not.

Yeah, give me. I'm just going to do the Mariah Carey answer moving forward on Pat McAvey. I don't know him. There's like no tough punters. Like, you know. Let's stay. I'll say this, right? Because he kicked me in the, like, below the belt here.

Yeah. That was an NFL punter. That might be, though you want to stay away from those legs. Yeah. That might be it. Yeah. This is the first time I've been asked about him. And I think henceforth, I'm just going with.

the Mariah Carey, I don't know him, response, even though I might be... What was the nature of the betrayal? What exactly happened? Oh, man. What do you do? I, uh, let's see how we could explain. Randy Orden, who I'm wrestling in WrestleMania, we have, like, almost two decades of history between each other. He was my mentor, and I had Sina who I drove around. I had Randy, very different opinions, uh, but also really helped shape me. We were on. screen together as part of his group legacy he had my dad's last match my first match in the

companies is ran there was a lot of rich story material and then we inserted pat mac if you're and that's we are literally in that part right there yeah so your question is everybody else's question true and that holds this guy even doing here i uh yeah no you know like the the the troops all outside and there's that clown. Right? I'm not saying he's like the clown in that regards. It just, it's an interesting fit. And we're going to see, we're going to see where it goes. You're saying he's not a serious person.

No, I don't, I think he seems like, you can't have that much success and be ground up like he is without being a serious person and having been to the Thunderdome. For sure. There's, what I would say is right now what I've seen is everyone around Pat McAfee, his orbit, it probably someone needs to say no every now and then that seems that seems like a dangerous group of people to you know you need like we were talking about bob holly earlier man you need that one guy in the room to be like i don't know man jumping into the wrestlemania main event also while i was getting my ass kicked in the ring the other night looking up and he's wearing shades

like he put the shades on to go out there it's a different era of wrestling it was like watching a guy at a bar do like a stone cold impression or like and here's here's the thing and i'm really trying to i'm just going to stick with the i don't know him but this is my as uh is i heard him again getting my ass kicked i heard him talk about the attitude era and i'm thinking oh man i don't think he knows almost 30 years ago almost so love it and it was the most prolific era in the business until the last four years. Yeah. So if you're part of the last four years, you kind of feel like, why are we talking about this? You know what I'm saying? We're playing in this game. Why are we talking about this? And yeah, no, I'll stick with the official though. I don't know him.

Yeah. Damn, dude. Should be interesting. Oh, that's the best part about it. I, it's very interesting. WrestleMania and something that modern wrestling fans and more what I mean is younger fans who didn't watch WrestleMania one or two, the original WrestleMania was built on the celebrity interaction. Like Mr. T. Hogan, Liberace, everything there, you know, you know, Wendy Richter, everything like Bieleratry wrestle.

Mike Tyson and, you know, when WrestleMania with him and was Sean and Steve. So there's always that element. Now Pat is there. There was at the ring. He's in it. He's this, he's the new Liberace is what you're saying. Yeah.

In that list of celebrities who come to the first Resumania, Muhammad Ali, Mr. T, Wendy Richter and Liberace, you decide where Pat falls on the list. You decide, you know. Well, there's that. Yeah, I was watching the, I just saw an Instagram reel of when Mayweather was on when he punched a big show. I watched that live and I was like, he really fucking punched him.

Yeah. And then them talking about it was pretty sick. Also, I think show, the big show, they had a nice agreement between each other. that when wrestling's done right the best thing ever is when you can just have a little bit of doubt on it seems like those guys do hate each other seems like and we have a lot of that in both main events this year there's a lot of sincerity to the suspension of disbelief i just believed you yeah well i tried very hard to navigate and he's your buddy so now i'm sitting here feel bad no dude it's russomani yeah it's russomani yeah it's russomani yeah it's russomani yeah it's russlemania too

Pat back said me on college game to judging. Oh, bro, you got hokey. He told me Nick Saban loved joking around. Saving does not love joking around. We got done. He was still going. He was like, dude, go talk to him. There's no way he was serious. I was like, he was serious. Yeah, you bet.

Well, so he's such a serious guy, saving. I, uh, the crazy thing from my game day experience, did you have notes when you did yours? No. Thank you. I didn't know what was going on. You just went. Well, you know college football? I had a couple of drinks.

I had a couple of drinks during the day, too. It was a night game. It was a Notre Dame playoff game at night, dude. I was, Matt got on there. Matt, like, kicked a field goal. It was a nice boot. Yeah, it's such a great show. I went on and I had the night before,

kind of like a set had been thinking of, there's, because there's some teams I don't know. I don't know enough about Kansas State, but I want to be able to make my picks. And I'm in Athens. And I go up there and I got the title and I got the fanatics, other UGA title.

They're making me bring up there. So I didn't have notes. And I sat down next to Coach Lee. I sat down and he looked at me and just went, no notes, huh? And I thought, fuck. Oh, shit.

Oh, man. Yeah. Oh, dude. No, no, no. Could I have notes? I would have not been able to memorize who won this award. Because some of those teams are, I'm not watching.

Yeah. You know, I'm an SEC guy mainly for the most part. That's where I was at. But I loved game day. Love it. Yeah, it's awesome. You did great on game, man.

Thanks. Yeah. We don't have to replicate it this year. The rivalry is great. Yeah. Sabin's a straight man on that show. And it's real. That was so funny.

You also have a deep knowledge of all like the teams and stuff. I wouldn't. I'd be tough. They would sniff me out pretty quickly, I think. Do you ever, do you ever listen to a Sabin or a Kirby locker room speech to get yourself fired up? Those are sick.

Those are pretty awesome. I have found myself listening to Kirby, talk to a bunch of college kids, like they're going to war. Yeah, it's awesome. And I didn't realize the amount of F bombs in a college. like Kirby's speech is get me. That's a regular little treadmill listen.

Freeman got one at Notre Dame's coach got one. It was halftime of Notre Dame Penn State. I think it was 10 nothing, 10 3. And he was like, it's just a fight. Go out and fucking fight. Yeah. He's like, you know how to do this, fight them. Get your pads on, man.

Lou Holtz has my favorite one. It was right before it was Notre Dame Miami. Yeah. They got in a fight in the tunnel. And all the players are like, because Coach Holtz was like, very serious like they're like we're gonna he's gonna yell at us for fight and he's like i just got one thing to say you leave jimmy johnson's ass from me yeah r-i p is this catholic convicts area of oh gosh what a you seen that it was that game it was that game yeah that was that

game yeah that was as real as it gets that's fun oh yeah all on the line you know what i'll say about the miami fans they they love the whole we're the bad guys thing yeah you call them convicts once and And they're all like, that's mean. I thought you guys were Catholic. Shut up. Well, I think also the- November 7th, we're coming for you, Miami. You're coming to South Bend.

I think the sensitivity of that era is a little different, though, in terms of what was on TV. Also, the way they presented both teams. True. Yeah. Well, the way the teams presented themselves also. Miami's scoring touchdowns

taking their helmet off and spiking it on a guy's head. It's probably a good character question to find out where you stood during the Catholic's convict side of football. I know exactly where I stay in. I like my roster not getting arrested constantly. I mean, what are we talking about? That's why my dad loved you.

But I see why you like the Bulldogs. Oh, the dogs, bro. They're the best. They're pretty good. Other than that Sugar Bowl. Yeah.

That was fun. But also, as far as a team to root for? It's a good team. You're consistently, you're winning home game. Yeah, yeah. Between the hedges.

is, uh, is still on the field. Oga fucking rules. He's the best. Always. Lamar's, Lamar's gonna be, uh, 15.

With this, Luga dies, I'm sorry. I'm like, I like, I like, another mascot or try to do one thing.

You know, the bulldog, man. You like it, Bvo, Bvo attack, Oga. Bvo and us. Every time someone's like,

I think it's a good idea. Let's just get together. Yeah, it's got a dog next year. Like, why would you put, like, a full-blown steer

and this bulldog are going to do well together. You know, Oh, I love them dogs. And the dog biting people sometimes. That's nice. Well, that great picture, I think, is like a five in the Auburn game. Yes.

That's the type of run through brick wall stuff. If our dog is getting into this, we're fighting, you know? That's pretty cool. Yeah. I think my niece is going to UGA. Nice. Yeah, that's big. That's awesome.

I'm excited. Yeah, the dogs. Good team. My mom's a big Notre Dame fan. Yeah. She's a saint. Yeah. She's, yeah, she'll be happy to hear that.

Yeah. She understands your struggle. Because we don't get it. Because here's why. What don't you get this? So, Her era of growing up, Notre Dame. It's Notre Dame.

That's all you have to say. Touchdown Jesus. It's Notre Dame, right? However, we don't know anyone who went there anymore. We don't have any connection to it. That doesn't stop. And multiple children have gone to other major universities. And it's still, I'm going to the Notre Dame game with my sister.

Who do you know? You got to get out there. That's their thing. Once you see it, you go, I get it. Does it get you? Yeah. You'll get it. Yeah.

It gets you. You'll get it. Fair enough. It's one of the greater franchise. I'm franchise. Great institutions of all time. If not, top five.

Top five's crazy. Top five. Now, since Bama went on that run with Saving, now Notre Dame's two. And Bama being one? Bama's now number one.

Where would you put UJ? Recently, they made a good run. Because before that, I think they had one title since like 1980. Yeah, and then they had they finally.

Yeah, they're up there for sure. What about Texas? Not really. You live in here, man. I still like Texas. They're great. The Longhorns are fun.

Look them, maybe. They're not. You can't put them up there with, they're not even above Oklahoma. Oh. All time, though, just blue blood was. Wrestling, uh, famous wrestling announcer, Jim Ross is watching this now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he still.

Take my God. Oh, man. Oh, man. No, Texas is right there. I, uh, I think I sent you a text about this. I don't know. I think I saw you talk about one time. And I was telling myself, I was like, I have to ask him.

about it is a ken burn civil war shit rocks i live for ken burns civil war and it have you seen it i haven't seen it no it's 47 hours long yeah i heard it's long as i haven't been able to commit to it there's no video i've watched it eight times just pictures just standing i watched it eight times i don't think i've gotten to gettysprick i watched the first five hours of this thing that's still really good it's great i uh that's awesome i got the the part of gile and street fighters coming up. Oh, yeah. That's right. And I'm thinking like, oh, I just want to get as American. Yeah. How we can get. Right? And deep dive into, you know, military history. All stuff I already like. Yeah. Clearly already very, very much like. But I was just diving in. And for whatever reason,

I got stuck on Ken Byr and Civil War. And I was just fine with that. Yeah. It's incredible. It's so good. It's so incredible. It's so funny to watch that prepare for guile. Yeah. I got a knowledge of what it's what it took. thinking about Pickett's charge. This is what it took to get, you know. True. You get to hang out with Shultz on that? What's that?

Andrew Shultz on that? Oh, yeah, he's phenomenal. Yeah, he's the man. Oh, and genuinely phenomenal. Yeah. I think people will be, because they have Noah, Centenio, Kalina, and Koji. The three leads, Chunli,

Ryu and Ken are killing it. They knew their stuff. They were ready. They were pros, pros. And I think they put, 50 cent and Schultz and me and we got to come in float in and the way Schultz is in the movie really blew me away because I got to see him both making people laugh hysterically and then also a couple sincere moments. He's a special one. Yeah. Yeah, he's a special one. Yeah. He told me he'd

help me against McAfee. I don't know. Shultz was. Yeah. Some jokes. And then Shultz also has started, I think single-handedly, Schultz started a Mortal Kombat versus Street Fighter. That's all that. And everyone, I think, on stage thought, like, the same thing. Okay. Well, we'll back him because that's our guy. But like, you know, like, yeah, I don't know how far. I think it's only getting it worse.

Like, Schultz is ready for a fight. But also, like, I don't know. I was saying he's like my tag partner. I'm in. We got to go. We got his back. Great guy. I wish he had jumped in the ring with his shades on talking about the attitude era.

True. While I was laying there confused. you know, but yeah, no. I know him. Yeah, true. I know this other guy. McAfee's a freaking punk. I can't wait for this all to get settled.

Is this your wrestler go-to? This right here? Have you? I go, Hulk Hogan. We're coming from you. Have you, do you know, when you do media and stuff for your shows, do people ever ask you, hey, do something funny for it? Every, all the time. Okay.

And what, do you have a bit? No, I say no. I don't do. Dude, I tell everyone because some people when they don't know wrestling

and I totally understand how great the 80s were and I get it. I loved it myself. But that is a common, hey man, why don't you just cut a quick little promo for this?

And that's what they want. They want the... And I usually, it's so soft and just almost, I'd say, you can see in their eyes. Oh.

That's not what I want. That's not what. I thought you were going to say, let me tell you something, brother. You know, like, bro, it's 7 a.m. I'm in a suit and it's, it's 20, 26. You know, like, I can just tell you this other stuff. But then also in my mind, I leave like, well, I should have something. Yeah, of course. Like when I met Bert Kreischer, Bert's more of a pro wrestler than half the pro wrestlers.

He's, like, ready for that. Yeah. So I now try to have one ready, but then I never do. And just always try and tell them, let's just avoid. Before we get out of here, because I think you actually have to go. Yeah. Could you cut one for us, LaMere? Yeah, sure.

LeMere, you cut a wrestle. Please cut a WrestleMania. He needs you to cut one. I need it, Lamar. Let me's get out of here, bro. Getting for the camera and get in front of the camera. Give a one. Lemarer, I'll set you up.

Send Pat back to be a message right now. Yeah, yeah. I'll set you up, this guy came for us. Yeah, bro. He inserted himself into WrestleMania. Did you hear that? That's your turf.

Le Maire, the belt was in your pool house. Yeah. Honor it. That, the, the title. Grab the Notre Dame bell. Get the bell, bro. Get the Notre Dame belt for this. Don't we mess around.

Yes, feel it. Feel the strength of it. Yeah, feel that. Yeah. Coach Luz in there. Oh, yeah. You got that fanatic. Get him, you got a camera, bro.

Tell McAfee, what's up, dude? What's the date? When's WrestleMania? 18, 19. Yeah. He knew. Yeah. He's a tattooed his brain.

Come on the mayor. Pat McAfee, you dare say that the wrestling industry is the wrestling fandom that the IWC stinks. Yeah. Dude, this is the stuff that you're made of. This is where you're from. Without the IWC, you wouldn't even be on TV. You wouldn't be shit.

Keep on the, man. He wouldn't be shit. This WrestleMania, April 18th, April 19th, you and Randy Orton think you're going to take on the American nightmare, Cody Roots? You think you're going to walk out unharmed? You think you're going to walk out fully together? you think you're going to walk out the same guys?

Oh, no. He's threatening life-altering injuries. No, dude. This guy right here, Cody Rhodes, the American nightmare, the American nightmare, the QB1 of the WWE, he rarely lets us down. He rarely lets him down. He won't let us down. He's got a better shit talking that.

He's fucking, he does pretty good for us. What the fuck? That was great. Good job, man. He did it. This guy, give me one. He's got a pretty good winning percentage. All right.

I think, unfortunately, you set it up where it's like, oh, man. He rarely let us down, basically like, hey, dude. There's no chance. He's going to let us down. Lemire, I was happy. So you're coming to mania, right? Yeah, you know, he's going to get into man. Yeah, you got to be there after all that.

Watch out for Pat, too. You got to be there. Can I, before, before you go, I have to do, I have to say one more thing. So on the way here, I was doing a little research. I came across an interview, you and your wife, Brandy, right? Yeah. And there was just a point of it made me laugh so hard where she introduced herself as the African-American nightmare. Yeah.

And then you said it, you're like, the African-American nightmare. She's like, okay, don't say that anymore. That interview is so funny. It's not mine. It's not mine. It's not mine. It's not mine to access. Yeah.

And I learn it more every day. It's not. So I referenced my nickname on TV, Rahim. And that was funny until I said it. And then now I live with it. That interview is so funny. It's not my. That's a very easy thing.

No one. You loved it. He must have been like, ooh. of keeping that. See how that one goes for me. It's not mine. God, that was a really funny interview. Definitely,

I learn every day. Yeah. It's good. You're growing. Yeah. You learn. LaMere, thank you for the promo.

That was incredible. Great job, LaMere. You're coming to WrestleMania, man. You got it. And Pat, he'd be scared running into you, man. You got him shaking, right?

You're holding the Notre Dame title. Yeah. Yeah. Of our forensic fanatics. You know, you feel in that energy. It's a pass move now. Yeah.

I do worry about Randy Orton. I think you could take Pat. Randy like a human horse, though, a thick, you thick boy, you know, so you got it. I don't know, the mayor's strong as hell, right? Yeah. Okay. I don't know if I'm Randy Orton's strong.

No, no, Pat. We're talking about you taking out Pat. Oh, yeah, I can take Pat. Pat would beat the hell out of you. No, no way. Yeah. Pat will beat your ass. No, dude.

I'm going to turn and heel. I'm going back. Pat, Matt, you're the man, dude. All right. Well, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, man. It's a blast, man. Thank you so much. Watch new episodes of Matt and Shane's Secret podcast on Spotify. Do it.