Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast - Ep 615 - Slim Goodie (feat. Sheryl Underwood)

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

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The Wild Wild West. Yeah. These are all your crew? Yeah. See, it's the same way with us. Everybody work with crew. Keep confidence. Don't talk too much.

No, they talk. These three are a problem. They get a couple of whiskies every night at the open mics. Not the open mics, you know what I mean? But they tell stuff? Oh, yeah. They fight amongst each other. They fight amongst each other immediately.

Well, no, mine started negotiating and gang up on me. I'm like, who the fuck? Say it. cut their heads. The second day unionized, they're dead. They're dead. This is no union. Yeah. We're gonna get along great. I'm gonna try this with they asses.

It'd be like Napoleon's canon right into the French people. Grape shot right away. Actually, I know Kyle from, this is a, this is a, so you ever hear, I talk about the time I was at the Laughing Skull Comedy Festival and I was in the green room. And it was the men's U.S. soccer team just lost. And one of the lady comics walked in and was like, the men's team lost, they suck. I guess they still get paid more than the women.

And I was just the one guy who was like, well, it's because they're not as good. There was one guy in the room with me that was like, don't do it. That was Kyle. Kyle was the next to me going, why are you doing this? And I was like, hold on a second. Had to be done. You were trying to warn him.

Yeah. He was like, don't. But why not? So he is, he is our Jim Kelly. We were in the wrong room for it. Well, why? Because it was just 10. Was it a bunch of women?

Yes. And even the guys were women. Oh. Yeah. The whole group, every single guy in there was like, well, women are just as good at sports. Yeah. You pussy. You never played sports.

Once you see a bitch get C-T-E, I have respect. I think they're born with it. But see, to me, here's my feeling. If you want to be equal, you will be treated equal, and you don't want equal, because equal is the same. And that's what everybody, I want to be equal. No, you don't.

No, you don't. The time that a motherfucker get off the bus, remember we talking about the Pistons and Lambert and them. If somebody get off the bus and choke you and put you in the face, but we're not even on the court. We're just fighting in the parking lot. You can be equal.

Yeah, I like it. Maybe the WMBA needs it. Actually, they've been fighting a lot. That's what got a lot of, that's actually what picked the league up. Do you think that they, but I think that there's certain things, like me being a female comic. Women will come to see a man, right, with a guy. It's difficult for a man

To come to see a woman And it's an hour half That's why we end our show The way we end our show It's an hour and a half of men ain't shit So what guy is gonna Bring a group of his friends To go let's go see some women

Bash us for an hour and a half And pay for it And get two drinks and some chicken wings Who wants to, what man wants to do that? Gay guys? Yeah, there's some gay guys and sicker. Pretty true though Gay guys and sickos

Maybe this guys are into that. See, I know gay guys, men that I get along better with a certain type of energy, right? But I know gay men that don't want to be represented the way the stereotype is. Yeah. I know gay men that fix cars. Nate. I know gay.

Are you gay? No. Yes. I've been saying that is so cute. He's fighting allegations. Yeah, they just- He twirks and twirks. He twerk.

I forgot he torqued at Drake's. I didn't twerk at. At Drake's party? Yes, he twerked at. I had to grab him. I go, no, no, no. You were twerking at Drake's? He's just saying that.

Hold on a second. Were you dancing when sexy red came on? And I had to grab you and go, dude. But I wasn't twerking. It was the, it was just the vibe. You was doing your version of twerk. Yes. No.

I do have a little move I bust out, but it wasn't. You was doing the Humpty Dance. It was before sexy red came on. It was already. It was all right. It was all right. Then the DJ pivoted the sexy rain. Wait, hold on.

You was doing a Humpty Dance. You was doing the dog. The key question is how low did you go? I didn't go low at all. I didn't drop it one inch. Don't make that face. You thanked me. I love it.

I almost danced the sexy red. I did appreciate that. But it was the case by the moon. Did you stick your tongue out? Yes. He was looking at it being on. You love him? Are you in love with him?

him? Am I love with Shane? Yeah. Yes. Not gay, but yes. We all love each other. My guy. But he did twerking. But I didn't, but I didn't twirre.

So you and Tony Hitchcliff have sex together. Oh, yes. Yes, Cheryl. Why are y'all doing this to me? That's going to be the rumor. Yeah, but I'm saying. I'm about to live in this now. Oh, no.

But LaMere is the freakiest of the group. True. Yes, Beth. Really? Yeah. No. Tell me. Nothing.

What did you do? He'll tell you. Ask him one more time. He'll tell you something. He'll tell you something crazy. What's the freakyest thing you do? Uh, oh. Are we recording all of this?

Yeah. Absolutely. What's the freakyest thing? I tried to go to an orgy in Milwaukee and it didn't work out. That's a good one. Yeah. I like a day show. something crazy. A orgy in Milwaukee. Yeah, he was with me in Milwaukee and he got on

the internet and tried to find an orgy. And then he wrote a, I think, a UBER. I took an Uber to a hotel. They said, yeah, if you give us 50 bucks, you can come to the orgy and they just stole 50 bucks from him. To me, see, that sounds like a set up. Yeah. Yeah, of course. But here's the question, Lamar. What would you have done had you've gone there? I don't know, man. He would have fucked everybody. That's $50? That's a buffet for this crap, motherfucker. It's the buffet at six.

He's like, oh, yeah, fin it out. That's it. The Uber was, what, $5, $10? It wasn't much. The entry feet to the orgies 50. But you're having a good night. There does have to be the Alaskan crab legs of the orgy. All right.

Let's save some of that for everybody. The funniest part about the people that ripped him off was we got back to New York. And he confronted them online. And they were like, actually, where are you right now? He was like, I'm in New York. And they were like, you're not going to believe it. We're having an orgy tonight. 50 bucks.

What, did you vimbo on the money or something? What did you do? The first time in Milwaukee. You sent through the money online. Yeah. Okay, rule number one. Don't pay before you fuck. Well, leave it on the dresser.

You're supposed to leave it on a dresser. They have deposits nowadays. Okay. You have deposit. Really? Yeah. Is that what we doing now? Not me anymore.

I mean, but that's what the bitch is? Or was you fucking a man? No. Okay. No. There was going to be some fellows in there. No. I'd say three to one guys.

Yeah. So then how many people would have been in the orgy? You got at least 10, right? Ten people. Is that $50 a pop? Is that what the $50 a pop? That's $500. That's a good night.

Yeah. Who get the money, though? That's in Milwaukee. That's good. I don't know. What are we supposed to be talking? talking about. I'm sorry. This is whatever. This is exactly what we always talking about.

It would be nice to have hosts a non-existent orgy get $500 and just jerk off by yourself in the hotel room. Y'all? It's like, I made so much money tonight. It's awesome. That's a good plan. Yeah. This episode is brought to you by prize picks. The regular season's done and the NBA playoffs are here.

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Now you know the crew. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty much. Yeah. Your crew is probably similar to my crew. Yeah. That's why they only smile and they're like, don't tell our business.

Why? What are they into? Yeah, what the hell? I would say, I would say I have the best team in the business because we understand each other, we respect each other, and they keep my secrets. My team sucks. Really? They don't respect me. They tell everybody everything, and then they fight each other.

Really? Every night. These guys have three shots of whiskey and go, you're a motherfucker. Really? Yeah. Well, maybe y'all want to fight each other, Dale and Kyle, no. No, y'all good. You guys are tight-knit.

Very much so. That's nice. They're like the big brothers. They nudge me out of my comfort zone. Like doing Netflix and even considering a special. I'm very afraid. Yeah. It's scary.

Everything's scary. Why? I don't know. Putting yourself out there sucks. So how many have you done? I've only done two. I've only done one Netflix special. Okay.

How's you feel? I was nervous. And then once I did it, I was... What made you nervous? Putting yourself out there. Anytime I make anything and it goes out there, I'm like, why would I ever? Because for me, I'm more comfortable in a nightclub.

For sure. Because the language can be relaxed. And it's intimate. And if you lose them, you can get them back. Yeah. In a special, now it's fixed in stone. You know, but I will say this, when Jamie Fox and Marcus King produced this show Laughapalooza, and it was filmed in Atlanta.

And me and Mike Washington have been going around doing shows right after September 11th. So I was doing some pro-American, pro-President Bush jokes. about September 11 in a very hood way. And everybody else in Atlanta was getting up and doing traditional sets, nightclub sets. And I told Jamie, I said, I'm going to bomb. And he was like, why do you think that? I said, because I'm about to do some pro-American jokes and pro-president jokes. Because I used to get booed talking about being a Republican and supporting President Bush.

but once I did it and the response Kyle you because you were saying Kyle's sitting off camera but it made you respect me more in that humor that's when I realized oh you just doing ass of tities and suck a dick you oh she got a strong mind

I didn't know that but here's the thing I like I have a rule I'm gonna take this off ramp I have a rule I don't sleep with or engage sexually anybody I pay because I'm getting fucked twice. Yeah, you don't fuck who you pay. If you want to be

in a relationship with me and you work for me, you must quit and then we'll see where it goes. Yeah. But in hearing when we got to know each other and the jokes that he appreciated it, I had to take the risk and I needed it to be recorded so it could

be time stamped. But when you recorded your special, did you bring back any jokes that had been recorded or done somewhere else to put in the special? No. Really? You wrote all? No, but I only did.

The only thing I had before that was a YouTube special. So I didn't have anything ever recorded. Really? Yeah. Really? But I don't think there's a problem with that. Really? Yeah.

And then you and I were talking and, like, I talked in my show about being a Republican, but being considered a rhino. being considered transphobic, being considered homophobic. There's not a wrong of being considered that. I get considered everything. A Republican in name only. So in this administration, I've been a registered Republican for decades, right?

But in this administration, the Trump administration, I'm considered a rhino. Which doesn't bother me. I just feel like one thing I love about the power of Congress. comedy. It's great discussion. You're not going to agree. You're not going to like every joke I tell, you know, and you're not supposed to. You're supposed to have a certain type of reaction to certain things. What I ask the audience to do is sit through the set and figure out what you like and what you don't like, but let everybody else around you enjoy it. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. And if you don't like it, because I was like, really, like one of my first

jokes was, what go good with chili? What? What go good with chili? Not as you brought up white people, let's talk about their ass. That's fun. That was one of my first jokes that I was telling. Oh, how did the Bush jokes go? I bet people were pumped. Well, the way they were told. Yeah. Yes, they were really stoked because they were told in a way that the urban and the black and the street Atlanta audience could understand. It's not for you to agree, but the president is the president. Like if it wasn't Trump saying a lot of shit, we'd be like, ride, ride, crypto, right,

let's get in on this. Or right, right, let's fuck these motherfuckers up before they get a nuclear weapon, right? It's who is coming out of sometimes and the times that we live in. But I think that's why I said what I said at the roast. You're not going to agree. It's a roast. And it's a new generation of roast. no longer rim shot Don Rickles,

Dean Martin, Pearl Bailey, Lucille Ball. And it wasn't in a small room where we're all friends. This isn't an arena on national television. We never met. That's right. And it's international. Yeah. Right.

But what I liked about it was you could see the camaraderie. And I think even talking about the George Floyd joke that Tony told, but I believe on the side of the cookout crew, Pete Davidson represented with the Charlie Kirk joke. I agree. You got to be offended by both or neither. That's how I felt about that. That's right. But you should be, the reaction should be offense. The Floyd family should be upset. There should be a crew of people that are mad because that's the reaction you have, right? Because you're not thinking about freedom speech. You're thinking about your brother who was murdered by a system. But on the same token, I tell people, it's a roast and it's a new generation of roasters

because everybody's like, sure, how did you feel that they talked about your dead husband committing suicide? Okay, it really truly happened and it happened over 30 years ago. Also, I called you. Yes, that's why I said. Well, well, remember, when I did all the interviews.

I would never ever do that without, yeah. Yeah, but let me tell you something, Shane. Knowing you, knowing Tony, like I'm sitting next to Tony, this motherfucker is ordering crown and Coke. And I'm like, so people think you are bigger, but you really a black man. You look like Tony Robbins. Oh, it's a black pimp. It's a black pimp.

It's crazy. I see that when I thought. I mean, that's exactly what I. Has a throne? He has like two or three different gold thrones. I was there two nights ago. You lie. It's the, literally the blackest place I've ever seen my life.

I'm telling you. That's the feeling I got sitting next to him. I was like, you're black. You either something, who beat him up in school? I think a lot of people. I think he got his ass with a lot. I had a guest. He got like, it was like a Spider-Man bite.

He's just trapped getting beat up. And see, to me, I would love to see Tony and Kat Williams in a buddy cop movie. That would be hilarious. Two little motherfuckers with big attitudes. in a movie. Yeah, it would be great. That would be very fun. Remember what I told you,

I think you need to remake Smokey and a Bandit. I like it. I'm usually getting John Candy. I get those a lot. I don't see it. They'll hit me with those. I don't see it. Well, I lost a little weight.

Yeah, but even if you were Husky or you have a, to me, you have a swag. Yeah, you got a swag. Yeah. No, no. I get it. I get it. No, I mean, you, how tall are you? Six three.

How much weight? 240. Okay. When I was 5-2 at 250. Yeah. I was 5-2-250? Hell yeah. Like a nose guard.

God damn. Jesus Christ. You're in the A-gap. Vince Wilford. But I think. Cheryl on Wood, Nosedackle. The Ohio State.

No, I got to put the ball. I got a hold. How long ago was this? Oh, how long have I been on a Saxander, we go, and now I'm on Zepbound about three years? Oh, nice. Oh, look at, look at, you can see my weight fluctuate. That's why my book is called I'm fat because of you.

So I'm writing my life story and it's called I'm fat because of you. Because I wanted to talk about the times that my body was protecting me and then it was attacking me and all the things that I was going through in life because I was like, I was a slim goody back when I was in sexual interpretive dance. What? Hold on. You were a slim goody back when you were in sexually interpretive dance. That's what we call stripping.

He did. In academia. Nate did sexually interpretive dance. It's a sexy red, dude. Now that's what they can say. Let's get out and do sexual interpretive dance. Yes, when I was much smaller. But then I think.

I think stress. You were a stripper? I attempted to, back then it was called lingerie modeling. And I was in college and I answered the ad to model. You model the lingerie

and then the guys, it was in a bar tavern type situation in Chicago. No, it's a true story. No, no, I mean a trick is to get girls to. No, uh-uh, you go in, we put on the lingerie,

we model it, and the guy who buys it, you're supposed to strip it off for him. What? You know, but God lets you know what you can't do, and I wasn't good at it. So I was doing all the Fred Samford. I was making people laugh.

You know, a hood do that. You're funny. You need to put your clothes on to go home, but you're funny. That's awesome. You know, so. You went to school in Chicago? I went to Fresno City College. That's where my associates is from in Fresno, California.

My bachelor's is from University of Illinois, Chicago. My master's degree is from Governor State, University Park, Illinois. I have five honorary doctors for them from HBCUs and one of them from my own alma mater, UIC. That's great. That's awesome. So my doctor five times. Yeah. That's crazy.

And I want to go to college, but I also want to be in the entertainment business. Yeah. I want to be smart enough to sit across from my lawyer and understand what was going on. Sit across from my accountant. I don't know what they're saying. Yeah. So you got to know. I don't.

You got to know. They're going to trick me. Uh-uh. The legalese is crazy. No, I don't. It's all it is is Latin. It's Latin. I took Latin in college, but you need to, okay, now you're going to have to marry either a very smart, progressive black woman.

You need a black wife. He's got a black wife. Your wife's back? Yeah. She's from Chicago. What's her name? Brittany. Brittany?

Brittany. Hold on. Let me ask some black people. What year do you think she was born? I don't know where your brother is born, but Brittany's Chicago black. Like, just to defend man. Is she Southside black or west side black? Southside.

Southside. Yeah. What location? Like, Pullman, I guess. Drop a pin. Damn. So where Pullman? Oh, woman.

Oh, she's in a wild wild hundreds? Oh, yeah, Brittany ain't on punk. Matt visits and he jogs in the neighborhood. You got to. And they chase him. It looks like Rocky. I was just courage strongly from jogging, but I won't all my jogging. Either you are insurance men or an undercover cop.

If you're walking through the black neighborhood like that. And you're in the Wild Wildhunded? Did you ever go to the copper box? What was that? Okay. And then Brittany didn't take it. She was like, stay your ass out. So how'd y'all meet?

Tinder. We met online. You lie. I swear. And you fell in a. She came to Philly. Yeah. She came to Philly for her master's degree.

Uh-huh. And then we met on Tinder. You have any children? Two. Wonderful. How old? Six and three. Wonderful. Yeah.

How did you know she was her? I don't know. I just figured it out. We moved in pretty quick. We, like, went on a second date, and I just, like, stayed at her house for pretty much then on. Wonderful. I mean, our house suck. Yeah. I was living with, like, six guys, so. Oh, so y'all was, like, a bachelor pad.

Yeah. And you fell in love, and then y'all accelerated it. I'm very proud of you. Now, what's up with you? I know this supposed to be your interview, but. No, that's no. This is how we... So, okay, so what type of...

I'm gonna be nosy. What type of women do you like? Describe her. They usually are blonde. Good. Yeah. Blonde and smart. Not yet.

Not yet. Not that blonde women are not smart. I'm just saying, do you like a woman who's smart? It's tough to find. Would it Eddie Murphy say? coming to America. My loins, yeah. Do you want someone that you can engage in conversation?

Yeah, of course. Right, right, right. Okay, now see, I don't understand. Like, I've been a widow since my, when my husband died, I have not been in what I consider a long-term relationship because I can be quite reclusive. I like my alone time.

Yeah, I'm similar with that. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I don't like to sit up with a man and watch sports with him. Because I'm not talking to him. I'm okay with that. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, it'll tell you a story. So this dude I really, really liked, and rarely I let people come around where I live, right? So he was like, so what you're doing tonight? What you want to do tonight? He said, I want to watch the fight? I said, I want to swing by. So I got the fight ready, right?

I said, what do you want to eat? And he texted. I said, text me what you want to eat. So I got all the stuff he wanted and everything. And then on my side of the bed was a stack of newspapers and magazine. And on his side of the bed was everything he wanted to eat and everything. So he was like, so what you're doing? I said, I'm shutting the fuck up so you can watch the fight.

And he was like, so you don't want to talk? That's wonderful. What the fuck am I talking to you? We're going to watch the fight. This is great. Yeah. And it didn't work? What's he?

No, it didn't. Dumbass? He wanted to talk. But that's the odd. I don't know why. Like if we watch it, okay, what's your favorite team? I saw all the shirts and what's favorite team? Well, it's Eagles and Notre Dame.

Okay. No, it ain't football. Okay. Now, Kyle, tell them, I watch college sports. Yeah. When I'm not, when I'm working, I watch enough of it. But when I'm not working, Saturdays. Saturday's for college football.

That's right. I don't know what the fuck I'm looking at. Sure. I just know, I watch college sports. Hold on a second. I watched college sports. And when I was drinking, I had my beer and my shit and my snacks. Yeah, it's the best.

But nobody's there with me. Yes. Nobody's there with me. Yeah, somebody's there with me. Yeah. I'm just watching sports. Now, I will text Jim. Jim Kelly is my sports guru.

Like when I watch Stanley Cup stuff. Yeah. And I go, Jim. My only question, how do they know where the hockey puck is? I can't see shit. Jim Kelly? Not the, not the football. Okay.

If I was that cool. I was like, I have a fun story. I would have a fun story. I would have a fun story about Jim Kelly. What? So I had to do a, the Super Bowl, like, two years ago, this guy, this, a rich guy asked me to go this dinner and he wanted me to do stand-up, but I was like, I don't know if I'm doing stand-up. But we just went to this like steak dinner at this. It was like a long table, but it was

just NFL Hall of Famers. So it was like, for real, everybody. I was sitting next to Jerry Rice. It was like Jim Kelly, Shannon Sharp. It was, oh, Nate was there. Nate twerked. Who are you twerking for? It was a different me thing you did to me that. It was a, uh, you know, You call me a pedophile. Yeah, that's how I closed. So, thankfully, Jim Kelly led the table in prayer before. Oh.

Because otherwise I had no material. Really? But it was just Jewish bankers and the NFL Hall of Famers. But they have senses of humor. Jerry Rice is my fraternity brother. I'm a member of Zeta Phi Beta. He's a member of Phi Beta Sigma. The only thing he laughed at was when I called Nate a Pedophile.

He probably thought that was fun. Then he lifted his head up and laughed. And I'm sure you guys saw that the, Club Shaysay Club Shayay interview I did with him No, I didn't see that Oh yeah Shannon and I sat in a car

for hours when he was playing in Denver So I was in Denver I think it was when they first opened The first location of the improv And what's the other guy? Is it Terrell Davis? Yeah, TD.

Okay, so I thought Terrell Davis was Shannon and Shannon was Terrell So he was like So what did you want to do after this? I said, sell these CDs. Back then, I was sending CDs and cassette tapes and posters.

So he was like, what do you want to do? I said, okay, I want going to go on a carriage ride, right? Because I saw the horse outside. I want to go in the carriage ride. He said, come on, I'll take you. And this is Shannon talking to me. But I think it's Terrell. And so I go, okay, let me get this money right here. So he starts walking up these stairs of the club and goes, come on if you come.

I said, who the fuck you talking to? I said, I'm not these bitches in here. Give a fuck about you. He was like, I'm I said, I was like, and I said, motherfucker, I'm already me, right? Yeah. So anyway,

it's great. Come on if you're coming. Yeah. It was sexy. I got off on it. What he said, come on if you cover it. I was like, oh, dude, I was like, wait a minute, bitch, stand up for yourself. So I pack up my stuff after I sell to it.

Because even the white girls was like, he's telling you to come on. I was like, bitch, get a backbone. Yeah. What are you talking about? So we get together. We get in the. car and we can't find the carriage right so we sitting in the car for hours talking about what type of relationship we could or could not have and fast forward to club shay-shay where we've ever talked

about it side by side that's great i was definitely wanting to be a mrs shatt and sharp but it wasn't meant to be and we all stay friends you know that's awesome yeah that's what you would hope I mean, every man I've been with, I'm still friends with. You know, I'm like, cool, if they're alive. But, you know, I'm still, I'm still friends. I left those jokes there. Yeah. You can I tell you something?

Can I tell you honestly? And that's what I've been doing in the interviews is telling people, listen, if they had not come with respect and said, these are the topics. Yeah. But I didn't know what was going to be said. And I did not know that Tony was going to do the George Floyd joke. Yeah. But when he did it, like I was over there.

like scribbling on paper and asking God, send me, send me the response. Send me the response like the response to you. Send me the response, but I don't want to be mean-spirited. But with Tony and the George Floyd joke, my only feeling is, if you don't have the right response

that blows up the room even further, you've set back the cause. So sometimes it's say less. If you ain't got nothing good to cut his throat wit figuratively about comedy, shut the fuck up. Yeah. you're going to make it worse, in my opinion.

What do you think? I agree. I think that's, I think you nailed it. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like the, so, especially with the, like the late husband talk, it was like this deeply personal, like a tragedy. And the thing no one talks about is like, you know, it's like horrific to even think

about and to be up there and just like laughing and making a good joke. To me, it's like a triumph where you like he rose above it. You made a big joke out of everything. No one ever talks about that. They're like, I thought it was, I watched it. I was like, this is beautiful. And then you came up and I think Shane said a lot of your stuff was kind of like off the cuff the last minute, not even on the teleprompter. I was like, that like really blew me away. Because I was like, how do you do that in that room? I would be glued to the teleprompter, sweating, reading it. And it'd be like, all right, I have my own notes. I just formulated it on a stage, on live TV in front of an arena of people. I really was. I was like, this is amazing. Faith in God. Yeah. Ask God, send me the words. Feeling safe, feeling like I'm not being attacked so I don't have to be defensive. I don't have to be thin, skin. scanned. And culturally, we cracked jokes that when he died. We did. We cracked jokes. I had to call my father and go,

can you come here and identify the body. My father was like, why? I was like, because you're my daddy. Go on and look. Go on and look. You know, but in stress, sometime humor equalizes stress. So for me, when I first got to the talk on CBS, one of the first jokes I told was this joke about my best friend Peaches. Now, I'm in Chicago. My husband dies, jumps off a building. My best friend Peaches tries to outcry me at my husband's funeral. And we're in a, what is it, funeral home? Seventy first and Hallstead.

And I'm sitting up front and in my family, we don't, because we're from down south. And my father is conservative Southern, but we don't express emotion out, out in public. So I'm sitting up front and weird is wailing coming back from the back of the room. And it's my best friend, Peaches. And she's whaling and coming up. And she is showing out. Black people know she is showing out at my husband's funeral.

Now, her husband is sitting about four pews back. I'm just thinking about my family at a funeral. If one person showed out, they'd beat their house. That Z. Like, what are you doing? Now, we all looking around, like, who is that? And she's welling. And so my father is nudging me, and I'm nudging him.

I'm like, I don't know what they're doing. She cried. So I walk up to her and I put my arms around her. And I go, bitch, what fuck are you doing? And we laughing, but it looks like we're crying with each other. And I said, I'm going to let you go. Because your husband, Ivory Eugene, Granberry. is four

pews back watching you cry over my dead husband I'm gonna let you go he gonna fuck you up when you get hungry but I couldn't say those words and Julie Chan Moon Vaz was the one who said

let's make it TV friendly but let's put some words in it and get a little seasoning very funny but it's it's when you say culturally sometimes humor is the thing It's the most uncomfortable humor that really kind of, it kind of lessens the tension and the stress. When you say?

Yeah, absolutely. Do you feel you've ever gone too far in something? Yeah, yeah, for sure. But then you're like, you know, as soon as you do it in a club, as soon as you're wrong, you go, shit. Well, well, but, I mean, puns are supposed to get groans. Scatological humor, shit jokes, you know, they make you. you giggle like a kid. You know, the analysis of humor is what I love.

But if you dissect the joke so hard, it's like a frog. You got to kill it to dissect it. But to me, for the people who are upset and on social media, I feel like you have a right to be that. Because now I get to talk about mental illness in men and specifically black men that men feel, I don't need therapy, I don't need this, I don't need that, right, in this society.

But people say, well, how could you sit there? Or it was offensive. Well, don't be offended for me if I'm not offended. But be offended for your point of view. And you can have your point of view. We're not saying you can't have it. Have it all on social media. Because most people trying to attempt to do stand-up

will never understand how it feels. It's like the greatest sex in the world with a bunch of people. You know. He was just trying to keep the high going. Milwaukee's. walking, $50.50. $50. Now, what did you want to ask me?

I'm sure y'all had some questions. What do you want to ask me? Yeah, well, really, my one question was like, and you kind of answered it, was like, how did you kind of put together that ad hoc, like, response to everything? But you said, you just kind of channeled God and just chilled out and relaxed.

What do you... I guess this is a question I had, too. When, like, because I've always wondered of this before, like, you know, you suffered this personal tragedy. Was there part of you that worried, like, I can't be funny again after this? It was like, I always wonder to that. If I be false or some like horrible tragedy happens to me, well, it just like destroyed my sense of humor and I'll become like serious and sad all the time.

I felt like I had no choice for me to survive. That's why the book is I'm fat because of you because I had to survive. I had to find a way to pay my bills. I had to find a way to build a career. So I just looked at it as, and my father was like, don't why me, why not you? like tragedy can't come to your door like it comes to anybody else's door so the first thing I thought

what is funny about this what is funny a lot of people say well why would you make a joke about being raped and after I was raped I went to the stage with it because that's the place where I'm most comfortable in talking to people

about something you feel could use that one in the rose yeah I thought you were no no no no they told me they told me that that's you guys might talk about medium raped. I would, first of all, I'd definitely not do that. I'm going to say, hey, this lady got raped.

What a loser. Yeah, but I mean, come on. That's crazy. But would you say that is what roasting is now? It's no longer you're a hockey puck. Roasting in your

generation in this time span of comedy, you hit really below the belt. And for me, I feel like the only thing you got to deal with, you ain't got to deal with me. Yeah. Because I'm your colleague. You got to deal with the motherfuckers outside

on behalf of what they're mad about, right? But to me, if you worry about that, you restrict yourself to great comedy, right? So for me, every tragedy in my life, I bring it to the stage so that I can show the audience. You can survive any tragedy. If God let you open your eyes the next day, okay, survive it. Because we're talking shit, you know.

If one of your relatives at the hospital that you hate and we all in the hospital room going if we could just pull the plug on this. See how we all laugh? That's what humor does. Even though we know we're not going to do it or one of us might, but the rest of us not. That's what humor is for.

It's gallo humor. It's Irish wakes. It's black funerals. It's funny. Black funeral, hey, dig that motherfucker up and check his pockets. Why? Because he only $50.

That's humor that gets you over tragedy. I didn't know, I wasn't certain your husband, your late husband was black. Oh, because I was not. And then when I, the type of the way he died, I was like, this sounds like a, this is a very white guy thing to do. Thing to do? Jump off a building?

Yeah. How so? What do you mean? Because that takes courage? No, God, no. I mean, it does. No, I'm not disrespecting him. You know, people argued me down when I talked about that.

It certainly does. In mental illness, it take, I felt it took him great courage. to be in such despair that he would do something that there's no way I could have done that. No way. But that type of despair and that type of stress. And people say, well, you know, because I had some therapy and dealing with some things. But my thing is, I did not kill my husband, but I may have exacerbated his stress. And so now that comes through in my comedy and saying what type of companion I would.

want to be to a man because I've watched the man I love. You weren't talking during the game with you. No. Not at all. Not at all. Now that, that is one thing. Now,

I might ask you a question in a movie theater, but I don't like to talk. That's great. Because I talk for a living. Don't you have moments where you don't want to talk at all? Yeah. The second I get off the road, I sit on that couch and don't talk for three days.

And women don't understand it, I don't know. They get mad at you. That's where that joke comes. from you are out doing whatever you're doing. Your man is out doing whatever he's doing. And as soon as you come home, you want to talk to him. Give him a minute.

Let him shit shower and shade. And then let him get situated and give you a signal that conversation should come forth. That'd be really nice. See? That's why I tell that joke. That's why I tell that joke. It's literally just like you were talking to everybody else

all weekend. I watched you. It's like, yeah, that's my fucking job. That's right. But I don't want to talk now. They don't hear that. But then, is that why you're single? Kind of.

Yeah. That's one of the reasons, yeah. Do you, when you finish the show, how do you feel about, because stand-up comedy is the most sexually attractive thing to do, aligned with singing. You got to see you do stand-up. No, it's a sexual. To make a woman laugh or to make a man laugh, it's a sexual thing.

That's why it's so powerful. I'm making a lot of guys. Making all these guys laugh. Fuck. Well, not that guy right there. Get all these guys. That guy. That's why he's happy.

That's why he comes to work every day. I like it. I'll never stop thinking about that. Right. But then when you stop doing it, when the show is over, what do you do it all that adrenaline? I drink. Okay. I used to.

It's not like I will never drink again. but I really want to see how I can reset my body for longevity. But I will tell you this, I drink because I like the taste of alcohol. And it's not that I like what it does to me. I like the taste of good whiskey or the taste of good gin or the taste of a great martini. And I used to smoke cigars, but I don't anymore. But I like that sort of thing. But are you drinking because your adrenaline is up?

and now you need to pump the brakes because alcohol is a depressing. Or do you drink because you like to taste the alcohol? I like drinking. Right. And you drink by yourself? No. You drink with bitches?

I mean, I'm sorry, women. No, it's almost entirely men. You should see my green room. It's literally... Why you don't slip to Mickey and they get what you want? Because I see you looking at him. Slip to Mickey to drink

this you know, God. Finally, I got Shane where I want him. Got your hat turned back. Yeah. Got your socks off. Getty. Bad boys. He's a bad voice for life. Getty. He takes over the whole. Usually just guys. Well, see, but that's the, that's the wind down. Yeah. Right? It's the wind down. And we remember we would go, we used to have this thing. And everybody goes to it. It's called the company field trip. And the company field trip. And the company. company field trip is where I would take my entire team to the strip club. And we would, I would bring in stacks of money. We should have a company field trip sometime.

You'd love it. You'd love it. It's a lot of fun. A lot of great food. Where are we going? Magic City. Magic City. I've had the Atlanta.

The wings are amazing. The brookly. I fucking grubbed them. Yeah. I didn't even go to Magic City. I got fucking lemon pepper wings to my house. The wings and the broccoli. Yeah.

Wings and the broccoli. And the service is amazing. and we would go in there and people would say, well, sure, why do you go in the strip clubs? One, to talk to the girls about, listen, I came last year. I like to talk to them too.

That's right. Your ass still here. Yeah. You said you were doing this for beauty school. Why the fuck you're still here? Or college or whatever. But then also, it's the only place

where the guys aren't looking at me. They're talking to me about politics and sports and current events or street life. They're not looking at me. They're talking to me. They're looking at her. And then she primes them up.

And then I just lean over and go, so what you're doing after this? It's kind of genius, honestly. Yeah. It's funny, it takes like 12 naked tits to just focus on conversation. Yeah. Sitting next to her just like, so how have you been?

Yeah. I never even asked. What's going on with you? How's the little Taitay doing? How the kids? Yes. Me? Yeah.

Who? Think of Lincoln. I got, yeah, just the staking link. July 17th, please come to Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia. It's the most important moment of my life. Yeah, that'll be fucking nasty. And if it doesn't go well, I'm going to leave this earth. I'm going to get pyro underneath the stage, and I'm going to tell them, go ahead.

Yeah, send it. Flame me. I'm out. Guys, I picked up some comedy club dates all summer long. We're going to be having fun together. I'll be 6-5 June 5th and 6th. I'll be at the Summit City Comedy Club, Fort Wayne, Indiana. And that is, that's in just a few weeks.

I ran into a buzz saw over there. Did you really? Yeah. What did you have? Just an absolute buzz song. Negative experience. People were just hammered. It's a fun club.

Yeah. That'll be, I'll be there in the dog days of the summer. Levity Live, Huntsville, Alabama, the Stardom Comedy Club, Birmingham. I'm excited for that. And Spokane Comedy Club, Spokane, Washington. Also, it's not up yet, but I have a bunch of more dates, so check them out on. Metmococco.com. Goodbye.

Seth, let's ask you on it now. How do you wind down now after the show? That's something I always struggle with. How do you like, because I feel crazy. Yeah, how did you not drink after the roast? That was fun. I kept telling myself, you don't want to, I got a goal that I'm trying to get to.

Sure. I kept telling yourself, stay focused. It's like being an athlete. Most people don't look at us as athletes because it's such a seditary life and, you know, it's excess, right? But being a stand-up comic, you have to be able to remember what you're doing,

then remember what joke, when it doesn't work, to replace it with another joke. You have to be ready to, if I've been drinking all night, now I'm puffy on camera, right? So it's a lot of regimental type of training. But for me, after the rose, I just felt relieved.

That's first thing. I wanted to get out of my shoes. but also I normally don't go to after parties I don't hang out rarely do I go to what they call Hollywood parties because I'm kind of reclusive

but then I thought come on Cheryl you need to engage people because you need work I need work especially there's no TV shows no movies being done I was on daytime TV for 14 years

so for me I thought okay do this and then I would never got representation and the things that happened so fast fast after that. But also I wanted to enjoy the height of working with my colleagues. That's what I want to experience it without alcohol in my system so I can remember it.

Why you smiling? I just, I had a great time. Yeah. I was fucked up. Yeah. I love my colleagues. Well, I was happy. When you walked up to me with the bud lighten hand, I said, that's the guy. That's the guy. And I thought that was the coolest thing. But the chance that we talked backstage. But then also to have a 45, 30 minute conversation with the rock about life. Okay, how'd you feel? I've met him before and he's the nicest.

Yes. It's crazy how nice is. Yes, yes. When he was making fun of me, he was talking about me and him working out together and then sitting in a sauna. It was true. We really did that. And me and him were in a sauna and he was just the coolest. Yes.

Nice is, it was weird. Yeah, it was, you know. And having our body types sitting across from each other. From each other. Very funny. Okay, but would you work out with him and? Would I or did I? Would you?

On a consistent basis. No, fuck no. Right. Mark Wahlberg, would you work out with him? No. He's a really. He's up at three in the morning working out. But he's a really great person.

I've never met him. He seems like it. Yeah. There's a photograph. The, uh, Pachial Mayweather fight. There's a photograph of me and Mark Wahlberg on a, like this, some kind of landing. And we're just really ragging on Jake Jillo, while he's being interviewed.

And he's a really good dude, spiritually good. Good Catholic. Yeah, but he understands his humanness. Yeah. You know, that's one good thing about being in the entertainment business. You come across people you see in TV and movies, and you know, and you. you get to talk to them and you'll find out the good or the bad and go, you're a trip or I'm glad you're not. I've met too many bad ones. Really? Not yet. Of those that are not your one name them.

No, I don't think I've really met any. Yeah, rarely do I get my feelings. People are pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. Same way. But that speaks more to who you guys are than who the person is, you know, because you're not going to track too much bullshit. You got hands, Shane. No, it's been a while. Yes, you do. You got hands. It's been a while. You put your beard down and As soon as you put your mirror down. Yeah. You get kicked. As a guy.

You're stupid. Pants fall down. You're stupid. That one I got to step up and throw these little hands. Yeah, then I need you. You got to throw these little baby hands by you. No, that's why I keep my squad of hitters.

You keep big baby? That big baby over there. That big baby. That's cuddly do right, right there. That's cuddly do right. You just squeal, squeeze somebody. Just get in there and squeeze it. Our whole squad's drunk.

We would lose to almost everybody. So your lovers, not fighters. No, we try to fight. You're drinkers. We try to fight. But it's a swing and a miss, ladies and gentlemen. But I would say, I was, I would go around, went to the after party, but I was like, come on, Kyle, let's get in the car. Why? Because it's time to go. Yeah.

Yeah. Even doing Tony's podcast last night and people go. Yeah, there's a party after. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And I was like, hey, let me do my thank yous and thank you for having me. And, you know, you get to a stage in your career where you're like, this is wonderful.

You kids have fun. I'm going to go to bed. Turn the lights on. Make sure you put the humidifier. I did leave that after party. Really? After the roast, I left, yeah. Really?

Yeah. But then I was walking out and there was TMZ. Yes. They got me. I was trying to find Lewis. Our one friend was, I don't think of mine. he was on Molly, I think. Oh, yeah, he doesn't care.

And I walked out and TMZ was out there. And they're like, what's up, man? How do you think that went? And I was like, I'm trying to find my Mexican friend. He's on drugs. And they followed me around the corner. And Lewis was sitting there like, ah.

And I was like, this is him. Founding. Because right when I walked out, the door guy was like, there's a guy named Lewis who says he's with you. And he keeps bothering us. You got to get him the fuck out of here. I was like, damn. And then TMZ was like, what's up, dude?

How do they not air that? That's a great interview. I don't know. I hope they have it. That's a great interview. Yeah. How often do you come to L.A.? Never.

Really? Yeah. Wow, you don't like it? I only really go places for shows to do shows. So once a year, twice a year. Really? Yeah. See, I look at L.A. as a, it's a small country town

with a lot of big, inflated people. Yeah. It's really, everybody knows everybody. That's true. It's smaller than people think. It just appears big because it's, You know, Beverly Hills, Hollywood, Century City. But if you actually get in it, you're like, oh, you're just like regular people.

You just have maybe a lot of money or a lot of power. Yeah, I never go to L.A. Yeah, like, L.A. started out as a puritanical religious community. Funny enough, movie industry came in, they were like, eh, maybe not. Yeah, yeah. I like California in general. It is fine. Yeah, it's nice.

You know what you would really love? What's that? San Joaquin Valley. It feels like the south. There's a lot of farmland. When I went to high school, I went to Atwater High, Castle Air Force Base. We had Aggies.

And so the Aggies are kind of like the country and the cowboys and stuff like that. That's nice. Yeah. You would really like it. You would like it a lot. A lot of drinking. I like drinking.

A lot of firearms. I like looking at farms. Yeah. Not working. There you go. Yeah. You got to go to Napa. Napa's nice.

You just hang out on, you can get hammered on farms. I was supposed to go there this weekend. Why you know what happened? I was, I'm tired. True. I didn't want to go.

It was like a music festival. Yeah. Yeah. You wouldn't feel good afterwards. No. Yeah. Get hammered. So what's the plan then?

So you said after the roast, it was just things kind of connected and took off. What's the plan outside of the special? Um, I would say continuing to work on the road because I love working the road. Me and Kai on I need a job tour. That's why we named it that. Because like most Americans, we need work.

Yeah. I want to get deeper into podcasting. I was just about to say, do you have like an interview show you do or anything? Well, Kyle and I are working on politics and punchlines as the podcast because I want to be able to talk about the politics of all situations, including politics. And the punchline is the humorous thing that comes out of that discussion and move on to interview people. I want to start with just me and Kyle

because you can't depend on the interview because the interview either might not show up or might not be good. Yeah. If you guys aren't good together, your chemistry, then you don't have a show. So I want to get into podcasts. I want to go back to terrestrial radio.

Nice. I believe in radio, even if I'm just a contributor in all formats. Shirlanda was Great American Talent Search. We're doing the first one in Lake Charles, Louisiana. And I believe that it's everything. Everything. Spoons.

Someone's going to play the spoons? Spoons. Washboard. If you do hair and you can put in a quick weave in 60 seconds, that's your talent. If your dog jump through a hoop or if it bark and sound like it's singing, that's a talent. You can do a monologue. But if you are a singer or a singing group or a band, you must master the past. That's classic rock, classic country.

classic R&B, classic soul, classic gospel, classic Latin, whatever you're doing. Not classic hip-hop. Yes, classic hip-hop. When guys are there like, hey everybody, my name is June. Yes, yes, yes.

Because what it does, it brings in the demographic that remembered all that music, right? If somebody gets up and does Ronnie Millsat, wouldn't it be great if a white dude got up and was singing some type of country song,

even a George Jones song, but then said to the audience, let me show you what else I can do and then start singing Keith Sweat. It would be wonderful. Wouldn't it? And I come out and have my dog jump through a hoop and I'm like, hey, everyone is saying. Okay, so wait a minute. Some guy with a fucking pair of spoons is sitting backstage and going on, oh, fuck, I got to follow that. That's it.

Wait a minute. I like that. So would you guys help me pull it together. Matt would. Well, before me. Yeah. I like play music. Yeah.

But it's anybody doing anything. He's got a blind dog. There you go. A blind dog playing the spoons. It's hilarious. You can't beat that kind of talent. Binge it. That sounds nice though.

I like the multi-genre. Let's see it all. Let's see what you can do. But it crosses the reason I want to engage radio with it, it crosses all formats. And I want to do the preliminary rounds through comedy clubs. So it's really an,

elevated version of the open mic hosted by local comedians and local radio jocks. And then when you get to the final round, then that's where you really have. It's a bigger experience for the community. It brings in small businesses. It brings in corporations. But it brings the community together. If your fire department got up and did new addition, it would really be a great experience for that. But the one we're doing in Lake Charles is doing Juneteenth. And I asked them while we're tabulating, the results, could we do a reenactment of June team? I'll be a part of that. Now, what would you be wearing?

Blue or gray? Blue. Come on, you see the house? I know. I just want you to say it for the people. Right, but don't you think, to me, that's what brings us together, right? And to do something fun like that after we do the I Need a Job Tour, my next tour will be Charlottona Woods Great American Talent Search.

Oh, man. I was going to make a terrible joke. Okay, Reagan. You know what the guys did after June Teeth? What they? They went on the I Need a Job tour. That's shit. They said, oh, shit, I need to go on tour.

Listen to me. Listen to me. For the brothers and sisters that's watching, he means the Fisk Jubilee Singers. That's right? Yes. Okay, so we got you on camera. You're going to help me pull it.

together? Yeah. Because I think it would be great for the country. And you can find talent. And if you want to put Afrobeat or EDM underneath some classics, you got to do something. I just think we can find the next sticks or Boston or even Linn or Skinner.

Yeah. I think because all of that these kids do not understand the fun we had in forming a group or making a band or, you know, trying to make this music or this and coming together, you know, as entertainers. How could Mike Michael Jackson, be vilified, die, and then become the best-selling movie, but all his music is going back up the charts.

If there isn't something there, right? Yeah. And so for me, I just want to bring the country together. And I believe in this as something that would bring us together and could possibly turn into something really, really great. That's awesome. That'd be nice. Yep. What else you want to know is it time for me to go?

me look at, oh, look at the time. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's another thing, too, that I have a tendency to do. I could be with a man, and I feel like I'm getting a little too relaxed, a little too talkative, and I go, you know, I think I need to go to the bathroom. And then I'll just sneak out of the building. That'd be so confusing.

And I was like, things were going well, and she left. No, once these phones came out, I will text her from the car and go, hey, call me later, or I'm going to call you when I get home. That stops the, oh, she left. No, she really likes me, but I snuck out. I still would be like, I think guys scared her. Scared of what? If a lady escaped?

Yeah. Well, if I'm talking, if I'm lingering, my dad had a saying, and sang, that'd be, that's nice. Linger long, linger long, but die, you must. I don't want to linger. That's how country's hell done. We're from Arkansas. Yeah.

We from Arkansas. So to me, yeah, he said, linger along, but die you must. That's right. At time I make a monkey eat red pepper. You know, he had these great southern things. Think about that. That's nice. That's right.

It's tough for me to figure out, but I like it. Yeah, yeah. Chicken ain't nothing but a bird and bush ain't nothing but chewed up grass. That was my dad, right? So to me, if I'm, if I feel I'm lingering, I will make a getaway. You know. Yeah. Lingering after you hook up or?

because that's a great time. If a lady escaped after that, I'd be like, that's wonderful. Clinginess is a problem. Yeah. Yeah, to me, I kind of resist. Maybe I'm, you think I'm a commitment fault? Wouldn't you say, fellas on my team? I'm a commitment fault.

Possibly. Well, listen, I believe in love. I believe in monogamy. I'd like to get married another time, but I believe marriage is, till death do its part. I talk about it in my show. But I,

I want to go through the courtship Like, I believe you should not live with a man in the house. And I can be married to a guy and not live in a house until we're ready to live together. Because that's what fucks up the relationship, in my opinion, when you rush cohabitation and you're not ready. So for me, like, if I'm back in my one and done days, sleep with a guy, I would like wait for him to go to sleep. And I was just borrowing my clothes up and sneak out the hotel. It's wonderful. Nothing better than waking up and be like, oh, nice.

And if I'm at his house, I would sneak out the house and put my car in reverse and let it coast out. So the car wouldn't start. And I'm, that's another one where I'm starting to get worried. No, no. Because, hey, Kyle, do you remember that time that I put the young handsome man? Basketball dude. Yep. On the front row.

And what did I do? Didn't I call you? And I said, and I was like, why are you whispering? I said, shh. I was like, oh, oh. I said, come get the luggage. And you was like, why are you whispering? Shh.

Come get the luggage. And don't let the elevator ding because I'm right next to the elevator. Because I didn't want to see that pitiful look in y'all face. When the woman leaves, I was like, shh, come get the luggage. You know that pitiful face is fake, right? You know that's fake.

Now, something you're looking sad. No, don't leave. Some men look sad. They look, why are you leaving? I thought we were going to go get something to eat after the... No, no, no. I like my alone time. That's good.

No, we should do with a dating show. I rarely talk about it, but yeah. But, you know, because I think women need to hear what men really feel. Nothing. See, I think y'all do feel something. Y'all just don't believe that women are going to listen. She's stupid. But yeah.

Also, you can't be vulnerable to a lady. She'll hold it against you forever. That's not the right girl. I saw you cry, you bitch. Okay, okay. What sporting event did you cry it? So many. So many.

Thank you. Yeah. That's right. Oh. Who gets the scholarship to walk on? Oh, that's every time. It's over. Down syndrome guys hitting threes.

Yeah, it makes you cry. It makes you cry. Putting a guy in, yeah, special needs guy on the bench comes in, hits a couple threes. Fuck, that's beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. So why can't you cry in that?

I could. Even to one tier. That's nice. Yeah, I'm okay with that. If she's smart, she won't rag you for it. She'll understand he does have humanity. Yeah. But shut the fuck up.

Sometimes, bitches, you ain't got to say everything to this dude. Just notice everything. That'd be nice. Yeah. I feel a lot. I feel a lot of feedback myself. Yeah, you get some feedback. I got a lot of feedback.

Really? Yeah. A lot of feedback. See, I just don't think, I don't think we need to talk about everything. You know, sometimes when a man is ready to talk to you, be ready to listen. And sometimes don't answer back. Just listen to him and nod. Yeah.

Wonderful. I got it. But sometimes I'll say, are you, are you cool? Are we cool? Are we still together? Yeah. Are you cool? I feel like you need some time behind you before you can eat the proverbial pepper

of just not bothering a guy that hard. Time plus distance equals clarity. I'm going to leave you alone so that I don't shoot you. I'm going to let you have your space because you're talking to me crazy. You know, you're kind of flagrant right now. I know you mad about some bullshit. I didn't know that was your father. The motherfucker got you in my face.

It's listening. You listen to a guy, also figure out what he eats, figure out what his comfort zone is. Make that great, because then he's going to make everything great for you. 100%. Happy home, peace of mind. Makes a man come back. Is this a man.

That's right. Me and Le Maire live together. So will you find the man of your dreams? That's me. He doesn't make me anything. LaMere hasn't cooked once. Actually, he made chicken alfredo. That was nice.

There's chicken curry in there from a week ago. That's in that fucking jug in there? Throw that out. That's been fucking disgusting. Come on, he's got a jug of fucking chicken curry in there. It's fucking gross. I didn't know where to put it in there.

Throw it out. Throw it out. But how are we doing? That's good? All right. Thank you very much, Joe. Thank you for having me. It's a lot of fun.

I was stoked when I heard you're coming on. I was like, this is awesome. Look forward to working with you guys. Let's work together and truly bring the country together. I would love that. Let's do it. I would too. Good stuff.

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