Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast - The Church of Sacred Dawgology
Episode Date: February 14, 2020The word has been made flesh. Please listen and enjoy. ...
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Good God, we're on. We're on. This is a very special episode.
Shane, I believe, is going to Canada, I think.
What for?
Shane, do you want to Canada? Do stand-up.
Oh, okay, cool.
He's either going to Canada this week or next week.
No, I think he's flying to Canada for sure.
But we're supposed to do separate episodes.
Come back. So he still owes you guys an episode.
Yeah.
You hear that, listener?
You're owed a fucking episode by Shane, so hound him down for it.
I'm pulling. I'm doing what I gotta do. I, so hound him down for it. I'm pulling.
I'm doing what I got to do.
I'm doing my end down here, dude.
I'm just saying.
I'm doing my fucking end.
Tell him, big God damn you. Pulling your weight and more.
Pulling weight.
Joining me, of course, are my fucking religious.
What the fuck's the word for that?
Zealots.
Zealots would be a good word.
Acolytes.
Religious.
Higher than acolytes this is this is
higher than apostles the church is already built dude apostles do the heavy lifting dude we're
we're basically like post roman empire catholicism the level of power we have we're the cardinal this
is the religious elite yeah you guys are cardinals bishops we're the inner circle exactly i wouldn't
mind being a living saint can Can I do that? Done.
Done.
Sign me out, dude.
Done.
Oh, I saw three miracles.
What was that?
Three miracles?
All right, you're in.
Oh, man.
We won't even get to that.
We'll get to that.
Start the canonization, right?
This episode is the canonization.
Pretty much, dude.
This is.
So I got Sid the Kid, Butterly.
What's up, y'all?
What's going on?
Yeah, dude.
I'm so happy to be back here with you.
This is fun. It feels good. This is tight. It feels good. We needed to check in. We needed to circle up. Bud Lee what's up y'all what's going on yeah dude I'm so happy to be back here with you this is fine this is good
this is tight
it feels good
we needed to check in
we needed to circle up
I was going to do it
that day
yeah
I called you guys
an emergency meeting
I was trying to do
an emergency cast
did not think that
that was a real phone call
because you woke me up
from a nap
did I really
well I was
the nap was over
but
that was a really weird
phone call to get
I was aware of that.
That must have been jarring.
Yeah.
When you when you just so basically I had I went down, I did the float.
I haven't done the float tank in a while.
So I'm like, let me, you know, we're talking about doing well, what was formerly called
a stink tank.
Forgive me for the fucking that's not what it is.
Obviously, it's way more important than that.
But I was preparing myself.
I'm like, dude, if we're going to do a live podcast where I'm going to pop out of a float tank after consuming edibles, I'm like, I need to prepare myself for the reality of that situation.
Because I was like, that's something to talk about, but like to actually do.
I was like, let me just see how last time I ate an edible and hopped in a float tank, I kind of freaked out.
And I kind of that was when I felt like a when I had like like deer body that was when i like literally felt like a prey animal i
was like oh that's what prey animals feel like and i was laying in a flow tank and like basically
felt like a a deer in the gaze of a lion i was just i think actually executing that idea could
lead to a life-altering panic attack bit already already had a couple of those, dude. Oh, dude, I am.
Yeah, again, dude, I'm fully immersed.
I've life-altering panic attacked my way here,
so it's like, what else do they ask me?
I feel it, dude.
Now when people tell me that they get anxious
or paranoid when they do drugs,
I'm like, you got to get more anxious and paranoid.
You got to get through.
Dude, when you're going through hell,
don't stop or whatever it is.
People don't want to hear it.
There's a whole thing called exposure therapy.
Excuse you?
I've been exposed.
Excuse me.
That was definitely exposure therapy.
Excuse me.
I feel better now.
I feel better now that I'm exposed to that.
Yeah, people don't want to fucking.
That is a valid form of getting people over their anxieties.
All right, we'll just double down, brother.
Get in there. Yeah yeah i'll be scared it feels like you're sitting still on the couch while like the end of
poltergeist is happening like just all like the ghost power moving around fuck pretty much yeah
and then it passes it's because we don't have in our culture we don't have an actual right of
passage exactly dude like we don't have that's the right of passage like to be able to push through to the other side like push through the darkness and get to the other
side and realize that you're a man now yeah and they worked perfectly because the rites of passage
were so intense that if you died you just failed yeah so anyone who made it through there that's
with anything wasn't a pussy officially wasn't a pussy and had some skills like they would send
you in the woods for like a week and be like good luck dude if you smoke dmt and die you're just a
pussy yeah you lose exactly yeah there's people who die of heart
attacks down on like ayahuasca ceremonies you imagine being the other people who are like
it's it's like it's it's because people have like cardiac stuff they just don't take care of oh
like the the people that do it as like a vacation it's like the dudes who shouldn't ride roller
coasters like yeah you don't find a lot of those people in DMT cultures.
Too fat for roller coasters doesn't really happen when you live in the woods.
You're throwing sticks into the ocean to eat dinner.
That's a fair point because they're like, no, this stuff's generally harmless.
And it's like they haven't come to grips with American bodies going down there.
They're like, let me see what this stuff's all about.
God damn it.
If you're physically incapable of rollerblading,
don't go somewhere to do ayahuasca.
You're going to die.
If you eat too much cheese injected crust.
And you know what too much is.
There's some dude walking around like,
I'm a panther.
Oh, God.
Oh, fuck.
Probably like, what is this?
I have a heart attack.
It's probably got to be so.
Do they have heart attacks down there?
No.
I'm pretty sure you just.
No, white people brought heart attacks down to the ayahuasca resorts.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure down there you only die from being like two eyes.
You get eaten a lot.
Sure.
Or you get munched.
You get munched or you get so wise that you
eventually just find a bed of straw and you're just like
it's my time
now and the ground starts glowing around you
like Avatar. You have a Jedi's death.
That's how they're died.
We go down there like
what the fuck is this?
They have to explain
they have too much food there.
And they eat so much that their hearts explode.
They're like, fuck.
What answers does this guy need?
He's already fat.
Why are we helping him?
That's got a rule to go down there and be fat as fuck.
We've never seen a fat person.
That's my goal, to hit the fucking third world country.
Like, 300 pounds.
Me like... People would run from you people would definitely run from you yeah you could get
sasquatch status you have to like come out at dusk and go been like just you always have to be like scurrying around a tree line i gotta do that dude i want to start having fat
tours where you go down and you just stunt on everyone it's just like mr universe like
the fattest people it's whoever loses biggest loser from not losing enough weight like yo i
got another show you're back up you're back You just go down to third world country and you're just fucking Mr. Universe.
You're like, holy fuck.
Holy shit.
Dude, you ever seen the, I don't know if it's African or whatever, but their rite of passage is they make you bungee jump with like vines.
You ever get strapped to your dick?
If you don't have enough dick.
There's a culture that does that.
They go up on towers Made of sticks
With vines wrapped around their legs
And they jump off head first
And like
Some heads touch the ground
What?
Yeah
And die?
Or just like
Nah they get up and they're like
Yeah they get up
I don't
Picturing it now in my head
I don't see how it's possible
I think it's like soft dirt
They get hyped
They're so fucking hyped up
On getting through to the other side.
That death is impossible.
Basically.
You can't die when you're that.
I would say.
And your dick is indestructible.
True.
I dove into the shallow end of a pool one time, hit my head, so basically I could see that.
Actually, that was a pretty hard knock to the head, and I was totally fine.
So, yeah, I could probably jump 30 feet with some vines
on my legs
but then you're
standing up there
and you're like
oh dude
I would be scared
to jump into water
yeah
I dove through a tube
into the shallow end
and it was like
bonk
it was like
fuck
forgot
wrong end of the pool
but they don't see that
all they saw was
you clear the tube
everyone up top
was like
hell yeah
you're on the bottom
I was by myself I think
I was just like
jumped in
was like oh fuck
just got out
was like damn it
damn that rules
yeah man
the uh
dude I'm telling you
people who tell me like
oh man yeah I can't
I can't smoke weed
I bug out
it's like
first of all
you're probably smoking weed
and like going to 7-11
which is hell
or just watching TV.
Yeah.
Well, I guess that's what I'm trying to do.
That's the point.
Well, once you've mastered it, obviously.
And that's when the creepy crawlers come out and they get a hold of you.
Once you've mastered it, you can sit and watch.
If you want to watch His Dark Materials with your wife.
It's crazy how much training I've gone through to be able to do the shit on weed that I was just going to do if I wasn't high.
I was like, I've spent thousands of hours and now I can finally fucking eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich by myself.
And not worry about choking or like go to a kid's birthday party and not feel weird.
That was always fun.
Going to a kid's birthday party high.
I had, this was like way early on when I, my first marriage when I I would go there around
nobody I was around
smoked weed at all
and I would go there high
and people would be like
you alright?
I'm like I'm good
I'm cool
I'm good
yeah you look tired
yeah I'm good
yeah I'm cool
I've just been working really hard
that's so good to hit people with
when you're high as fuck
I'm just run down
from working so hard
people are like
ah dude I know what that's like
yeah you put a gab on your shoulder and you're like yeah yeah I'm gonna go play with kids for 45 minutes I'm gonna run down from working so hard. People are like, ah, I know what that's like. Yeah. Put your gab on your shoulder and you're like,
yeah,
I'm going to go play with kids for 45 minutes.
We're going to check out that bouncy house.
Yeah.
We're going to bet a couple of games.
My wife walked in on me and Ben's nine.
We were having a mind battle where we just were fighting with the wildest
weapons that we can mime at each other. Like he's pulling out a rocket launcher from behind his back at one point i climbed into
a mech and like fought him in a giant robot mech and my wife walked she opened the door to uh come
get us and we both turned in like the crazy poses we were in and she was like you guys having a mind
battle this is so fucking sick dude having a family fucking rules having a mind battle is
fucking tight dude yeah get high have a mind battle is fucking tight. Dude, get high.
Have a mind battle with a kid.
Change your whole fucking life.
It's not fair.
They're probably so fucking good at it.
Dude, you need a performance enhancer.
You'll be good at it, too.
Exactly.
True, true.
That is performance enhancing drugs for a mind battle.
Yeah.
Oh, you think you're good at it?
I'm on drugs, dickhead.
Dude, so that literally brings me to the call.
I'm walking down. I literally have me to the call i'm walking down i literally have been the flow tank um i mean the revelation basically the whole revelation was i got high in a flow tank and
figured out the movie the matrix was i was like whoa oh my god i have to call these guys right now
how was dude what were you guys when i hit you guys with when i just called you guys and started
unloading he called you before he called me okay i will because here's what i think happened i woke
up from a nap and it was uh matt was on the phone and it was uh i answered and you're like
yoni what are you up to and i was like nothing what about you and you're like hold on um uh and
then i heard you like fumbling with your phone and're like, I'm trying to set up a conference call.
Had just opened my eyes from a weed nap.
But I do it all the time for work.
I was like, it'll take me two seconds, let me do it.
And then we conferenced in Sid.
Yeah, I was definitely second,
because he called me and answered the phone,
and he was like, dude, conference call.
I was like, butterly?. I was like, Butterly?
Butterly?
Like, shit, I don't have him.
He came in cool as hell.
It was like, dude, conference call.
I was like, yeah, let's do this.
And then he was like, wait, are you?
Butterly.
Butterly.
Like, his confidence for the conference call.
Then he called Butterly back.
I'm like, all right, I don't know what happened with Sid.
He's like, I'll just hold on.
I was like, yes.
From here, I need to be convinced that the rest of the phone call happened right now.
It did happen.
So I got out of the thing.
I was doing the voice memo.
And then I was just like, fuck this.
I got to call these dudes because I could lose his voice memo.
And then it would be like when those guys just burn libraries full of ancient knowledge.
I was like, I can't have this.
Like when ISIS sacked a city and just burnt all their books.
I'm like, no, this can't be done.
So it was so funny because it was so profound to me when I was like thinking of
it.
I'm like, it's gonna blow their guys minds.
And I got out and was like, oh, guys, well, the idea that is tight is the Church of Sacred
Dogology that I stand by 150 percent.
I'll stand right next to you.
150 percent.
I called.
I basically called you guys.
I was like, I invented a church.
I think Butterly is like, I've been waiting or sydney goes i've been waiting for this day
i think we both might have said that yeah that was my first response like i've been waiting for
this yeah yeah yeah no i was like i'm ready yeah sydney was ready butterly was waiting which
obviously that's why you guys are the religious hierarchy either way so the uh so i'm in the
flow tank and i'm laying there'm laying there. First of all,
that was the original thing when I was like,
can I handle if there were like 60 to 70 people upstairs waiting,
could I be high in a float tank knowing there's people that I,
you know,
like pre-show kind of anxiety,
you're like disenchanting,
like Matt,
Matt,
Matt,
Matt,
they're waiting for you.
You're about to enter the fucking Coliseum.
Basically, dude. And you're just, you're in, you're just in the man, man, man. They're waiting for you. You're about to enter the fucking Coliseum. Basically, dude.
And you're just in the Wolverine syrup, dude.
You're just laying there in the tank.
You're just in the tank, dude.
Just fucking.
So I was like, can I handle this?
And I'm like, of course.
I'm like, I don't know, dude.
I might have fucking bit off more than I can chew.
I got a lot of big ideas in the pipeline.
I have counterintelligence, which i'm i still gotta flesh out i hate
doing stuff and not yeah saying stuff and not doing it so i still i'm still waiting on counter
you know what counterintelligence is yeah so yeah do the podcast tricks i want to have be on
someone's podcast but secretly record them and then reveal that you're in fact a spy and then
start on your cast exactly and then no one and you know at that point what really even is a podcast but
so i'm laying at the event horizon now pussy
i'm not even releasing this dude
well yeah the uh no the singularity let me take event horizon back
did you replace it with singularity. That is a singularity.
It's just funny because there's going to be some guy being like, what?
Yeah.
Wait, you're not a card counter?
No.
I'm not.
I hate to break it to you.
The Craigslist antique dealer.
That was perfect.
Fuck, man.
Just like that.
True.
But I got to get, again, I needed someone who has their own podcast.
Go on as an expert and be like, excuse me.
Not going to be hard.
And I'm going to send in, I'm going to get the Morse code sound effects.
It goes, do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
I'm like, excuse me.
I have to let you in on a secret.
I should do this tomorrow.
I have time tomorrow.
But, so, I'm in the tank
I'm like I just get over
I'm like I could do this
I was like I could
be high in a fucking
flow tank and then
go up into a pod
I'm like yeah I got
over that really quick
I'm like this is a
doable enterprise I
could do it and I was
like yeah I got to get
syndicated and bodily
on the page though
because they've never
floated before you have
to kind of get your
boots wet a little bit
because you could just lay in that thing and just be like what the fuck if you like don't let
go of what you're like just kind of like get into it i could imagine i've heard of people just being
like yeah i just kind of like laid in there and it was weird i got water in my ears it's like that
would be i'd be afraid of shitting so i'm so relaxed that you just shit yeah i you worry about
that well yeah so i have i take because i've done it now probably like
five times where like i make sure i don't drink too much water i take a piss before i go in i
make sure i shit that day like beforehand so it's like i don't yeah if i even feel because it's one
of those things where before you do you kind of get a little butterflies oh this is going to be
this is a new thing i'm doing so if you're hit with that, I kind of got to shit right now.
That would ruin it for me.
I go shit.
You have to go shit.
You can't feel any of your senses, so you'll just be a shit.
You'll just be having to shit for an hour.
That's the only thing you can feel.
I wouldn't do it unless I could be so relaxed that if a shit were to occur, I would have no control over it.
I wouldn't even want to stop it.
I would shit in it yeah i you would feel you would like feel the shit in your body and all the all the muscles and body parts that are holding it in yeah you'd be like a grow a frog if i'm 30 minutes
into a 60 minute transfiguration i'm not i'm not i'm like getting out and drying off first of all
getting out and drying off of the shower to shit in the toilet you'd have i wish i could shit in
the shower you'd have you'd have to fucking to fucking Texas walk up there wet, too.
There's, like, there's bathrooms upstairs.
Yeah.
So you'd have to do the Texas walk out the shower to the bathroom, dude.
You'd have to do the wet Texan.
The wet Texan.
Yeah, be wary of that, dude.
You're in it naked, too.
That's what's up.
So you'd have to walk out naked.
You'd be like Prometheus.
You'd be like...
Just point to a toilet.
Yeah, so I was in there and I was like, fuck, dude.
You don't worry about getting salt water in your bird?
Nah, it's Epsom salt.
You mean like in your bird? Yeah, okay, okay. So it's okay so it's like yeah yeah yeah like dude your meat is pinches off
i've ever been in the ocean before
pee you don't take any water back when you pee it's like a needle if you pee it takes a little
back in when you stop yeah but it's the vacuum pressure the dilution of salt in the ocean
probably is less concentrated than the dilution of the salt.
This is dead sea levels.
So, yeah, you float.
Yeah.
This is dead sea.
I think you're okay.
Yeah, you're okay.
Yeah, your bird doesn't hurt.
Again, do you ever pee in the shower and then your bird hurts?
It's like your bird sucks in some of the hot water?
Yeah.
You don't get that.
Okay.
You're like a bird cramp when you pee in the shower.
Why does that happen? It's because the last fluid to pass through your penis changes the pH level.
When you're going to come, the pre-come, I think, is to adjust the pH level in your bird
so that when the semen comes through, the sperm stays alive.
And I think that burning sensation that you're feeling is like the clash of the pH levels or something like that.
That's a guess based on a couple of things that are true.
I always thought it was vacuum.
So you've got piss pH, and you've got cum pH,
and you can't cross the two because you'll kill all your sperm.
I always thought it was...
And you've got shampoo pH.
Oh, yeah.
If you get some shampoo in your bird, that'll do it.
Yeah, I guess.
He's got to cum immediately.
But I think you have to pee to activate the pump
to suck the liquid back into your bird just to sting it up because otherwise every time you
had a shower it hurt your bird yeah no it's it's pretty closed off it's like camel nostrils or
something so have you ever got it like a bird pain in the ocean no no no but yeah oh you're
saying so the salt is so salty i didn't know what kind of salt it was
I didn't know what they were doing
Yeah
No so in order for you to float
It has to be like
You're right
There's a ton of salt
Yeah
So in order for you to float
You have to have a ton of salt in there
But it doesn't
If you have any like
Kind of nicks on you
It'll definitely
It'll sting those up
You'll feel that
Yeah my
My dong has a lot of nicks on it
Yeah if you got
If you got some scratch
You got some scratches
Seriously Nick dong
Dude I started getting dry dick around 32.
Yeah?
I mean, my dick is just dripping wet always.
Really?
Yeah.
I guess you don't beat off that much.
Here and there.
I go through spurts.
I like to try to discipline myself and see how long I can go.
Save up the little piggy bank?
Yeah.
That's nice.
Yeah, it's fun.
It's like one of my...
Get a couple extra pumps on the super soaker before you squirt it.
Yeah, I actually tried to jerk off this morning and got kind of like stopped.
So I'm sitting on a nice one right now.
Yeah, I don't like when you're jerking off consistently.
The more consistently you're jerking off, the longer it takes to come.
It's like heroin.
Yeah.
So I like to take long breaks.
So I don't – I mean, I love jerking off, but I don't like jerking off.
I like coming, but I don't like sitting like, oh, okay, I'm just stroking my own dick now.
Yeah, when you're doing it too much, it gets kind of weird.
If you're like – if you have like a, if you start forgetting the last time you jerked
off and then you rip one out, you know you're in for a good one.
Yeah.
But yeah, I try to, do you ever bring your phone into the shower?
Try to watch porn secretly in the shower?
That's specifically why I get waterproof.
That's not a great idea.
That's not a great idea.
Horrible idea, dude.
That's not a great idea, dude.
Horrible idea.
And then someone comes in the bathroom and you're like trying to arrange the shower curtain.
It's like concealing a phone
while naked in the shower.
It's prison stuff, dude.
It's hard.
I was like,
I brought my phone into the shower
with like high hopes of jerking,
doing like an aqua jerk
with watching porn.
One thumbs up.
I got a text
and I was like,
I thought you were sleeping
and fucking put it away
and it was like right on the thing.
But yeah,
that's getting busted
with a phone in the showers.
Tough stuff.
I don't jerk off't uh i don't
jerk off watching something yeah you told me that before yeah like i bank things and then
that's the best way i forgot the sid's come origin story was beating off in the woods yeah
that was the first time you came uh it was routine right oh you said oh you steadily beat in the woods i had
a pretty packed house true i didn't really you know when i when i was living with uh yeah when
i was living with my grandma there was nowhere to beat off true and it was just uh it was just
you and gay dads out in the woods that's who jerks off in the woods yeah gay dads young hot
hetero teens, dude.
It's kind of a wild mix, dude.
You're a prey out there.
So the first time that I really remember coming,
I got jerked off by a girl in the woods.
That's what's up.
And then I was like,
I can always go,
because where we were
was a pretty secluded spot.
I was like,
I can always do that again.
So it was like sacred jerking ground.
Basically.
You would go back out there and get...
Basically, this is where I got jerked off the first time.
Yeah, I guess.
I mean, it's also like we had pretty good woods in my area.
Hot woods.
Yeah.
That's fucking awesome.
Good jerking.
Yeah, I didn't...
I was a pretty risky jerker.
I mean, I didn't realize...
Once I realized how dangerous it was to be
jerking off outside how frowned upon it was it was like oh my god oh dude yeah never again imagine
getting found by like a group of hobbyist paintballers that would light you the fuck up
that that would be a rite of passage to see if i could As you're running away They're like I got you dude
I got you dude
How many
How many jerks did you catch in the woods
If you had to count them
There are five
That I can specifically remember
Gotcha
Like that's the first number that came up
But I'm pretty sure there were
In terms of like
Adequate
Was it like
Pants down to the ankles
Like were you showing ass Or was it kind of like No it was It was pants down to the ankles? Like were you showing ass?
No, it was just a learning curve.
I mean, yeah, I came on my windbreakers a couple of times here and there.
It's, you know, so by the end of.
You're swishing home from jerking off outside.
Swish, swish, swish.
By the end of my jerking off in the woods
I was basically
Like a 45 degree lean up against a tree
Like holding it with one hand
And like jerking with the other
Like a plank
Oh my god
That's pretty cool
Yeah
I'm gonna go out into the Norristown woods
And just rub nylon together
And see if I can attract gay dads.
It'd be sick if you built a treehouse in the woods to beat off in. A jerk shack
in the treetops.
That's good jerking, dude.
I mean, if I built a treehouse in the woods, I would definitely
jerk off in it. Yeah, I'm kind of pissed
because we had a fort and I don't think I ever jerked off
in it. There was porn there, too, and I think I just checked it out and didn't jerk off in it. Yeah, I'm kind of pissed because I think we had it for it and I don't think I ever jerked off in it. Yeah.
There was porn there too and I think I just checked it out
and didn't jerk off.
Dude, I thought it was crazy
when my friends were telling me about
them jerking off in their house.
The idea,
we had so many rooms in the house
that I lived in that didn't have doors.
So the idea of jerking off in a room anywhere
was just like,
it was terrifying.
The bathroom was a bit,
that was a heavy jerking off
station in my house.
See but our bathroom
you couldn't be in the bathroom
for more than like
two minutes
before somebody else
was knocking on the door.
Yeah we used to pull
there was a drawer
near the door
and we'd pull the drawer out
because people would
obviously pick the lock
every single time
to try to catch you
jerking off.
So you'd pull the drawer out
and the drawer would
stop the door from opening
and then you'd be able
to like be like
alright I'm out.
You'd get a clean break
or be like
what the fuck are you doing?
It's so funny imagine Sid just like trying to beat off indoors and just getting like cumstrophobic the walls are closing and he
starts sweating he's like i can't do this dude not having a bedroom door i was in my brother's
house where i didn't have a bedroom door it's a different it's a different room experience yeah
where it's like any time anywhere so yeah it's tough to catch a beat like that yeah you learn
a different type of politeness when you live in a house with no doors.
True.
You get gazelle hearing when you're beating off with no doors.
You know, each person's footfall, their gait.
You could identify them by distant sound.
Who's here?
I want to do a show like Scandal, but instead of like a hot affair, it's just a guy jerking off somewhere.
It's no Carrie Matheson or whatever.
It's like the president and he fucking gets to a room and it's just like, oh, fuck.
Oh, God.
Mr. President.
He's like.
So, excuse me.
Excuse me for the detour.
The.
Yes, I called you guys.
So I'm in the I'm in the flow tank and I'm sitting there and I'm like.
I'm thinking about doing the show and I'm like, damn tank and I'm sitting there and I'm like thinking about doing
the show
and I'm like
damn that'd be fucking wild
I'm like it is doable
and then I don't know
you kind of like
I've kind of forgot
what the fuck
I was really thinking about
but I got real into the idea
of like manipulating reality
that's my
the thing I'm really into
right now
is the manipulation of reality
and how like
if you're not doing that
you're just fucking
you're out here
floating around
if you're not consciously at least attempting literally preaching to the
choir exactly bro yeah who the fuck am i talking to yeah so i'm sitting there and i'm like you know
you caught well exactly dude so i'm sitting there and i'm like you have to so at first i'm laying
i'm like damn because i I entered into like literally a...
I was thinking about mystical experiences and how there's scientific literature about the clinical benefit of mystical experiences.
And it's just like a part of our brain none of us are using right now.
That's the stuff with the mushroom studies when they say like people stop smoking after one experience with mushrooms for up to 18 months.
And it's like it confounds psychiatric science to where it's
like no you have to get people you know you gotta alter their neurochemicals and it's like
no dude you can have somebody have like a mystical experience from a substance and they stop you know
they quit smoking they stop doing heroin blah blah blah there's a bunch and nobody really knows
the science like the scientists right now have no fucking clue how that works do you think any of it
any of it could be attributed to the fact that the mind isn't fully understood yet?
Exactly, bro.
Are we having a mind battle right now, dude?
I'm channeling Shane.
I got to shut this down for my friend.
I know Shane, when he hears this, he's going to be like, this is...
Oh, my God.
He's going to say, what the fuck are you doing?
First of all...
I'm trying to be a good friend right now.
First of all, you're agent smithing me.
Second of all, I'll get to that.
I myself, Tim Butterly, 100% on board with the idea.
No, no, I need skepticism, dude.
This is, I mean, obviously, dogology doesn't,
we're not kicking out the church, dude.
We literally can stand up, we can stand up to science.
I can't wait until this also turns into a wigger clothing brand
I'll be tight for the apparent for all of our perils just to be like FM BG jeans
Well, well no all the apparel honestly is matrix t-shirts dude, that's it that's all
Only only used gamestop
employee promotional shirts i'm trying to wear like crash bandicoot forced merchandise that's
so i'm in i'm in the tank and i'm like damn dude people should be having mystical it's not that
hard you eat a weed edible hop in a float tank and if you've trained yourself not to bug out
you can literally relax in a float tank to the point've trained yourself not to bug out you can literally relax in a float
tank to the point where like you literally it feels like you leave your body it's fucking crazy
i can't wait it's so it's so fucking awesome you guys did the deep dive yeah it's like that if you
just weren't aware of your body at all how much of the deep dive did you explain on here i didn't
really explain it that much interesting i talked a little bit about it on the twitch stream but i
don't know if i actually covered it well i i've explained it it's basically you and you know this is the
chain call is you're just getting high it's like sure bro sure if you're if you're gonna be a
western fucking materialist on me sure sure i'm having a mystical experience but yeah i'm just
fucking high in a flow tank if you want to be a naysayer fine and we'll talk about that but the uh
but yeah it's really just taking a a moderate
whatever is moderate to heavy amount of cannabis is what i call it now whatever that is to you
take that and when i ever tell people i'm like next time you do it just lay on a couch with
your eyes closed the entire time and listen to like some sort of like music or just whatever
not you don't have to listen to them people nobody does that where they just like stop for two and a half hours and just close their eyes without sleeping yeah it was it was like uh psychedelic
um meditation exactly dude and it's fucking wild what it does it's pretty nuts what it does like
in terms of the shit you start thinking of that like literally if i i sit all day and torture
myself trying to think of cool stuff, usually to no avail.
Yeah.
So then it's like, oh, I do this.
And then it's like, and it's not like I'm actively trying.
I just relax.
All of a sudden, dude, bam, the stink tank becomes a sacred church of dogology.
You upgraded it.
I upgraded it.
I wasn't even trying, dude.
You nailed it.
I literally connected to the source.
Dude, when we did the deep dive i i created a
visual representation for what i believed was my lifelong chronic anxiety it slowly revealed itself
to me to be a manifestation of the plant goddess we called her santa maria of course it was santa
maria dude my anxieties weren't holding me back they were it was it was the plant goddess let me
know that she was gonna fucking push me forward i. I was like, dude, I realize this all.
I went home.
I tried to explain this to my wife.
I felt like a gigantic retard.
She was nice about it, though.
Dude, no, when you try to, that's the thing, too.
Yeah, I haven't even tried.
I'm not even going to try.
I try, and Brittany just shakes her head at me.
But it's also, like, was that beneficial to visualize that in that way?
Oh, for sure.
And I had a nice time.
It was a really nice afternoon.
Exactly.
And it's also, like, it lets you feel ideas in a way that we're not really used to yeah you can explain
it all you want it doesn't make sense but if you feel an idea you're like like you'll just be god
families rule well what that's you know that's once you're internalizing everything and uh like
you're it's almost like your internal monologue turns off and then you start being able to just explore your your feelings just as like the emotion.
You don't actually have to like like I know this is hard to explain, but I think I'm already pretty close.
You're you're you're laying there, your internal monologue shuts off and now you're exploring your feelings without writing a script for your side
and then like imagining someone else having the other side of the conversation you know what i
mean yeah it's just uh because yeah and the visual aspect kind of like elevates it and uh we get to
see them i always i'll have like my i'll when i get into that state a lot of times i'll it'll i'll
just be chilling i'll be like just like a weird feeling like a separate entity and I can sit there and like slide out my deep bedrock fears and be like what's this one
it's like have a heart attack probably won't have a heart attack put that one back in there and I
can pull out all these weird not like subconscious fears but fears that like affect me on a daily
level like you were saying you interact with them you can just like look at them and you're like
rather than just kind of like running on those yeah that was my that was my big revelation from the whole thing oh i ended up
having a real a real life impactful revelation from the whole experience what was it so yeah i
was just getting high in the basement with my boys yeah obviously dude as i'll conceive you're
gonna agent smith us however i realized i had this huge uh anxiety about missing out like so now
you know i don't i don't need to bring this up, but
you guys push us on to start the fucking dad meat cast. Me and Rainy are firing. We're at a hundred
miles an hour here on out. No big deal. But, uh, we're, we're, we're kind of running ourselves
ragged, like pursuing opportunities and goals and shit like that. And for, so that feels really good
to get like returns on all that. Like we've, you know, good responses and shit, that and for so that feels really good to get like returns on all that like
we've you know good responses and shit but i had a new fear that i was like oh no i'm gonna push
too hard for like success and i'm gonna i'm gonna miss out on like those fucking moments i love to
collect with my children right i have three kids and um i i so i started to I started to spin out I went into the fucking
anxiety spin out
on that
and then I realized
like all I have to do
is commit to just like
going out of my way
to create
new memories
with the fucking
kids
it was as simple as that
I felt better
I still feel better about it
it's
that's one anxiety
that can't even touch me anymore
dude that's what I'm saying
it's
it's so hard to explain this stuff because a lot of this is kind of going on like in a almost not an
ineffable but like a an emotional level that it's hard to put in work it's like beyond kind of our
words a little bit not to make it grandiose but it's not grandiose weird fears that you can't
really articulate and then you can explain those to yourself and in a way that makes you feel better
if anything i'm trying to say that your internal monologue trips you up exactly because you get so
focused on like what the what the verbiage and you yeah because it becomes so since it's in your
mind in your in your own mind rather it feels so real and true so if you if you believe the
validity of something that you give yourself for example so one of the things that i was dealing with in the deep diver that i came out of feeling better about you know i noticed so i have a few
people that like you know when i see him it's on site yeah right and i know about that you know
but it's uh you know i was still giving that to myself like i don't need to do that and the reason
why that was the case
or that I feel like it needs to be on site with these people
is because...
They're fucking corny.
Well, I felt like they caught me at a time
when my hands were tied
and I couldn't put my hands on them.
Yeah.
And they were taking advantage of the fact
that I couldn't put my hands on them.
But now I don't have the fears of losing the things
that I could have lost then.
So I feel like I have to... I can't let the fears of losing the things that I could have lost then. So I feel like I have to,
I can't let these people walk around thinking that they could treat.
Like do one of the people came,
came at Ansel.
Really?
Yeah.
Like said stuff about her.
Damn.
And it's like hard to let go.
And then,
you know,
while I was in that deep dive,
I felt like I came to terms with that.
Like I don't have to,
I'm,
I'm,
I mean,
I have jujitsu now.
Like that's where I get my edge out.
I can do what I need to there.
But so,
uh,
dude,
dropping in on sites,
a big deal.
So I didn't even know I dropped it.
And then,
uh,
butterly posted something about that,
that involved one of these people.
And I saw it and I was like,
man,
it doesn't,
it didn't even move my meter.
Damn dude.
Yeah.
It was just like,
whatever.
I just like,
as a matter of fact,
I just enjoyed the fact that I knew he sucked,
you know?
So it was like,
I felt,
I felt pretty good about that.
I think it's,
I think it's something people should at least do. It better than pretty much anything honestly yeah i like when people sit
all day and don't do shit like well that's stupid it's like what the fuck what the fuck are you
doing try it just try it out it works no one's quicker to say that's stupid than someone who's
doing absolutely nothing well dude ask for an alternative when you when you're talking about
someone and someone says that's stupid ask them for something better they're gonna go oh dude so that so i'm sitting
there so basically that's that's a good way of explaining it so when you add the tank it's like
i'm telling you it's a serious fucking it's like a a serious difference but it also takes with with
with weed it's like you know if you just take mushrooms it just hijacks you to the point where
you're not really in control of it.
You're just like, what the fuck's going on?
With a lot of weed, you have to kind of still use your brain and kind of think your way.
You know what I mean?
If you take a ton of mushrooms, you're just like, meh, looking around like, whoa.
Yeah, calling your wife so that you could dictate a movie script to her over the phone.
Yeah.
No big deal.
Dude, so I'm in the tank.
I'm sitting there.
I'm like, like damn dude people people
need to start having mystical experiences this is bullshit that we're not having them and i was like
so i started thinking about that i'm like deep i'm doing the show the uh where you know we all
come out of the flow tanks doing live podcasts i'm like fuck man this is gonna be crazy and then
it just literally i just kind of relaxed and let go obviously communion with santa maria and i'm
like i started thinking about the fact I'm like, I started thinking
about the fact I'm like, so this is, I was like, this is what you have to do. You have to be
having your vision quest. You have to be having your mystical experiences. You use that to
basically tell you what you're going to do with yourself. So then you come up with a literal
vision of like, all right, this is what I want to do based off my mystical experience. This is like
the thing that feels right for me to do. It feels very right. And then you, you pack it, you figure
you take the time you need to figure that out pretty efficiently or to the point where like you feel good about
at least starting this and then you find bay dude you have to find once you once you've once you've
been enough mystical states where you've like been like this is the thing that i'm going to do and
not be weird and complaining all day about like, you can't do that.
You can't just be walking around all day complaining about,
I'm doing something I don't like.
It's like, okay.
Every time I feel like I want to complain about something,
it just tells me that I have to adjust something.
I'm like, if I'm stuck around something that makes me complain,
I got to adjust my algorithm.
Dude, that's every time I start complaining about Brittany,
it's like, you're being a pussy, dude.
And every time I think about it long and deep enough,'m like fuck i am being a pussy i'm being a fucking pussy that's like like tim said if it's worth complaining about it's worth changing
exactly or at least try that's the thing it's like well it's easy for you to say it's like
dude first of all none of us i would say 99 of us aren't going to starve to death
so it's like yeah you might lose your car might to death. So it's like you might lose.
Your car might be a shittier one.
If you start making changes, shit might suck a little bit, but you're not going to fucking die as a direct result of it.
I sometimes help people start working out, just workout period.
And one of the things that I do for free, but they have to kind of do it my way.
And so one of the things that I tell them is you, but they have to kind of do it my way. Right. And so one of the things that I tell them is like, you can't complain about any workout, not even jokingly.
Yeah.
Because it messes with your psyche.
Like even if you jokingly complain about how hard something was, it makes you a little less likely to go hard the next time.
How do they take it when you tell them no, no funny business?
time how do they take it when you tell them no no funny business they most of them are pretty blown away because they immediately see how it's going to affect the way that they work out yeah
and then others have like they once they get into the workout and they find themselves about to
complain and they substitute that out with something positive so i say you can't joke
about how hard it is what you can joke about is how how jacked
you're gonna get or how good you're gonna look yeah right and i don't joke about either of those
but yeah you said you don't i'm dead serious when i'm talking about how jacked i'm gonna get
or rather or that don't be funny about no i got you saying yeah you're like oh i suck at this
i'm a comedian basically you know i don't go to the gym i'm a a comic. I fucking hate that. And then it's also like challenge yourself.
Because I am helping comedians get in shape.
It's like, dude, challenge yourself.
Anybody can make fun of how hard working out is.
That's what every hack comedian is doing.
True.
Like, entertain.
Like, I'm here too.
Entertain me.
Don't fucking bore me.
Yeah.
You know?
So, but it's, you can see how it affects people.
It changes them immediately. And it is to not,
I'm not trying to double back to this,
but it is almost a mystical experience for them.
Like it's a spiritual experience for them.
They're learned,
they're almost opened up to a whole new,
because they wrote a narrative about themselves.
Like I can't work out, I'm fat.
Yeah.
You know, and now when they had this,
like, wait a second,
if I change my mindset
on working out that's that's all it is yeah they're giving themselves permission to like let
a part of themselves out that was kind of hidden behind like you just gotta get out of your own
way i'm silly exactly dude so that's so i'm in the tank literally i'm in the tank and i'm like
all right so you have to have mystical experiences and this is something you just can do you have
if you're sitting there like i don't have to do with myself. And this is something you just can do. If you're sitting there like, I don't know what to do with myself,
the edibles, the tank, whatever you need to do,
the volcano, pay pens, whatever.
Get yourself into a state where you're kind of like,
whoa, fuck, fuck, this is kind of scary.
Hit the tank, ride it out, and just literally just shut your mind off
and just, you know, try to just before you get in there,
be like, I'm going to think about the shit I'm doing that I don't like.
And it's weird how your brain just starts hitting you like, what about this?
And you're like, what the fuck?
I've never even considered that.
It's crazy.
So the idea is then you use the vision you have, find bae.
So if you're hitting Tinder dates or whatever, and you're going to, you know,
rather than just being like, I'm on a date.
And you're like trying to be hot, I guess, for a chick or whatever you're doing.
You just go and meet her.
And you're just like, what are you trying to do with yourself first of all they never ever float
dude seriously do you like weed and tie dyes like you've ever fucking floated
no the idea is dude you just fuck it you just totally straight man them you're just kind of
like so what are you trying to do with yourselves usually they're more so in the seat of being like
when are you what are you doing impress Impress me. Yeah. Talk good.
Give me a funny one-liner.
So if you're just seeing like,
what are you trying to do with yourself?
And they're like, well,
and you're like, here's my vision quest.
And then if they start doing stuff,
you're like, well, if our visions don't align,
if we don't have synergy between our visions,
then this isn't going to work.
Oh.
Dude, it's...
Man.
I'm telling you, it's fucking pointless.
That's how pimps also collect whores.
Yeah, right?
Like, you...
It's like you're making... Tell me who to pimps also collect whores. Yeah, right?
It's like you're making her want it.
You're Tom Sawyer.
You're like Huck Finn and I'm like, no, you can't paint this fence.
I'm telling you, man, because otherwise it gets in this weird power dynamic where it's like you're showing up.
They're like, what's this?
They're just assessing you in terms of whatever the list of stuff list of stuff is if that makes sense it's kind of cynical but it's like i feel like especially when you're dating as you're older absolutely not it's not cynical it's not cynical to point
out negativity and choose not to participate in it true that as my new as dude start with the
smallest negativities in your life and put your fucking foot down say i'm not fucking participating
in it that's basically that's what it is, baby.
That's all it is, dude.
You hit the date, and you're just kind of like,
right away you come out, and you're not even being like,
usually when guys are like, well, you know,
I've been traveling, I'm business, I make a lot of money. I have a nice car.
It's like, dude, skip all that.
You can skip all of it.
Obviously, if you pull up in like a fucked up van,
I mean, I got pussy in a fucked up van, but you know, whatever.
Yeah.
It can be done.
It can be done for two years.
It can be done, for sure it can be done for sure but
if you roll up on a chick and you're just kind of like what are you doing with yourself and like i
don't even want to pursue this if you don't have a vision that i can align with this is our our
unions pointless because then it just devolves into that weird standard relationship of like
man no one knows what either person's actually trying to do with themselves and you just start
having weird power struggles and being like,
you shouldn't leave that there.
And you start fighting.
It just turns into a fucking bullshit.
That's kind of what every woman is looking for.
You almost can't get denied.
She'll be like, take me with you.
Oh, the vision quest.
Yeah.
I thought you said fighting over dumb shit.
I was like, don't tell me that.
I hope that's not the truth.
No, but it's like a woman is looking for, especially in America and in our, you know, in our materialistic society, right?
Like a woman is looking for a guy to come and sweep her out of her mundane existence into something new and exciting.
And, you know, a vision quest in the basement is pretty exciting.
Well, it's also like, you know, because you'd hear people be like you know you think i'm just
sitting around waiting for you it's like even if you have a regular ass fucking job and you're out
like doing the damn thing if someone comes up and like i'm doing something sick right now
they're obviously gonna be like this is awesome yeah so you know so yeah i do agree with you
it's like you you meet her and immediately it's like listen i don't fuck with your dumb friends
that'd be pretty tight yeah well you'd have all you'd have to do is hit them up and be like, what are you literally trying to do with yourself?
Because then if a chick hits a tailspin while you're with her and they're having identity shit, it's fucking crazy.
Because you're just like, what's your plan here?
And they're like, fuck you.
You can't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you just literally find bae, finding bae is nothing.
You have to stabilize bae.
Dude.
You have to stabilize Bay by joining your guys' vision,
and then you're her reality warrior out in reality
just trying to attain the vision,
which is fucking crazy.
It's an awesome way to live.
When you get a Bay spinning out,
and then she goes to report back to fucking HQ
with her fucking gaggle around her,
and they're all like, they want to exacerbate it
because that's how that's
how lady circles feed dude they like they they're they're like the fucking monster from the outsider
they're they're grief eaters or whatever it's called they're like you should cheat on your
boyfriend yeah he's not you deserve it things aren't going your way let's have wine now job
tell them that you need help and as their gets worse, the friends around them are like, this feels good to us
temporarily.
Dude.
Until it's your turn to spin out.
That's the darkness, bro.
And I think you're 100% right.
People don't want to hear that at all.
Yeah.
But 100%, dude.
Well, that's why you have to let them know right away that you don't respect her friends.
Because if, see, here's where a lot of guys mess up.
They try to impress this girl by showing her how he can be cool with her friends.
So now he's acquiescent to that friend group.
So that friend group to the girl now seems more powerful.
Because, like, if he's acquiescent to it, like, I guess me going to them for advice makes sense.
That's the type of dude who gets cheated on at bachelorette parties.
100%. Well, they also,
there is that weird
like dating rite of passage
where, yeah,
they're like,
there's always some friend
if not a couple
who are like,
we have to meet you
and approve of you.
Yeah.
It's like, no,
I'm not meeting your friends.
I've never met them.
We fucking known her
since college,
all right?
And I fucking,
first of all,
I fucking love her.
And if you think you're gonna
hurt her i'll fucking kill you it's like cool it's like it's second it's wednesday you're hammered
the second this girl trips up you're gonna get in her ear and make her spin it into a life
destroying situation yeah dude they do that that is something man when bays hit 30 it gets very
i've said it before it gets very Games of Thrones-ish, dude.
Or Game of Thrones-ish.
It's the vibrating football game.
They're all just spinning in circles, crashing into each other.
They all short circuit.
These short circuits are buzzing.
And they do.
Some of them start getting married.
Some of them start.
And there's these milestones that, like, if they see their bay friends hitting, they're instantly just, like, trying to, like, grab their ankles and get back down here with us dude you nope you gotta fuck chad's on tinder with us dude that's that's like
yeah man girl world is that's what i'm saying dude so you have to vision this is just like
it's such a cool way to just approach your life in general where it's like you're in a fucking
float tank you're stoned and you're just like having literal visions dude you're having body
sensations i'm like i left my body at a point where i just and it's like i'm sitting there you're stoned and you're just like having literal visions, dude, you're having body sensations.
I'm like, I left my body at a point where I just, and it's like, I'm sitting there
just being kind of like, all right, like going with it. But I wasn't, I wasn't just like making
this shit up or I was literally just like, it took a little work on my part to like slow my
breathing and just kind of like really let go and just kind of release and give into it. Dude,
there was one point I'm going to get made fun of this so bad i'm in the float tank i'm obviously channeling santa maria and i'm like dude we are
we have merged there's no more because i have weird religious superstitions hung over from
catholic grade school where i'm like what if santa maria is what if santa maria is the devil
dude and i'm like so i'm like oh no i'm scared i'm in the float tank what if santa maria is the
devil and i'm like can't be a pussy dude the inkens weren't bitches they weren't worried about the fuck i'm like we got fucking tricked by all that bullshit anyway so i'm like sitting in the flow tank. What if Santa Maria is a devil? And I'm like, can't be a pussy, dude. The Incans weren't bitches. They weren't worried about the fuck.
I'm like, we got fucking tricked by all that bullshit anyway.
So I'm like sitting in the tank.
I'm sitting in the tank.
Dude, I swear to God I'm not making this up.
I all of a sudden start.
This is after I had the thing about stabilizing bae.
I'm like, so you find bae, stabilize bae, hit her with your vision.
Try to get her coming up with some form of vision for herself.
And then you
just literally are like all right this is what we're doing together here's the grand vision i'm
a i'm just a reality warrior for you trying to bring this in which like just makes the day by
day so much less pointless and fun so it's like i mean i just don't see how you can argue with that
but so i mean i'm in the tank i'm kind of nice i'm like oh i'm feeling pretty proud of myself
this is cool i feel literally what feels like a vagina just going up and down on me.
Not lying,
bro.
I,
I've read about this.
Wait,
wait,
wait.
You,
you,
I had a cosmically sexual experience,
a vagina touching you.
It wasn't like,
it didn't feel like an enveloping you.
No,
it didn't feel like a,
like a,
and I was thinking about this while it was
happening it wasn't sucked by santa maria i got i got she wrote out bro so dude and i've read about
it it's called it's like a cosmically sexual experience so i've read about this before people
who have done this where they have what's called like a cosmically erotic experience that i've
heard about women getting fucked while doing yoga
they's called ganja yoga where they they like get really high and do yoga and this chick was like i
was getting fucked well bickram was raping ladies no no no true she was by herself and i like didn't
even think anything of that and just it wasn't like a direct like i'm in pussy but it was like a
a weird sensation where i'm like, this feels kind of weirdly good.
And dude,
you get hard.
I got fucking hard.
That's the proof.
That's the proof.
Cause I'm like,
this is all in my head.
I got rock fucking hard to the point where I thought I could come,
but I didn't out of respect for us.
I was like,
I can't come in his flow tank,
dude.
I was like,
Santa Maria,
stop it.
I felt like there was
someone on top of me
riding me to the point
where I got hard as fuck, dude.
In the flow tank,
got hard as fuck.
So I'm already,
this is, dude,
I'm telling you,
this is fucking 30 minutes in.
I kind of get like
weird cosmic pussy.
I'm like,
I'm all of a sudden
now I'm a reality warrior
for my bae,
which, by the way,
I went home and gave her this talk
and she was all about it.
Then I was like,
oh, I came up with the flow tank she's like what fuck this she got all
pissed but whatever i'm still working that out yeah yeah yeah she was all into it dude we it
literally again that talk of like being like well what are you actually trying to do with i've never
asked her that in my life like what are you actually trying to do here and she was like oh
and then you know we talked about it and then it was like okay all of our weird bullshit for the
moment dissipated dude where it was like dude that day I had stormed out of Target and walked home.
That's the level of relationship we're working with.
So it's like, you know, we're not doing awesome.
So it's like, we're fighting.
We're stressed.
And then to be able to lay in a float tank and come home and just be like, I'm going to interact with you this way.
And I mean it.
And it's going to just dissolve a bunch of our problems.
It's like, why the fuck aren't a bunch of people doing this do you think
if I practice hard enough I could hands-free come in the flow tank dude well out of respect for Russ
I'm not I'm not coming to the federal hypothetical I'm not coming in and I was the first person
because it's Sydney I think you've said you've busted a no-hander yeah I'm the first person
by city no fucking way and I thought about you. I was like, Sidney definitely did a no hander because I was getting close to being able to
fucking rip a sand,
a fucking blessed rope,
dude.
Yeah.
We talked about that.
Like we've talked years ago.
Yes.
You're going to bust a rosary.
I was looking at rosary,
dude.
So I've done it.
I've done it real quick.
Yeah.
I busted it.
And you can,
you might not it twice.
Yeah.
So it's like, you can it twice yeah so and it's like
you can
it's so
it's like the craziest thing
it's like
almost like a kegel
thing I guess
that's what they describe it
but you can feel
like the
it's a much
like when I'm
when I'm
fucking or jerking off
like I don't feel
the things that are
pumping out
the cum
do you know what I mean
I'm like
your balls
yeah
just like something in the shaft that kind of like the epid. Do you know what I mean? Your balls? Yeah.
There's like something in the shaft that kind of like... The epididymis, yeah.
Yeah, you can feel it like...
The piston.
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Your dong, yeah.
It's almost like you mind manipulate those.
Whoa.
Yeah, so I would imagine that you were starting to feel those...
You're playing the old-timey organ, just pulling on the...
Yeah, basically.
I'm telling you, I was the first one to be like,
you can't bust a nut without touching your dick.
I was like, sorry, it just doesn't work.
I was in there, and maybe I was fucking,
I might have been bucking upwards.
I might have been thrusting a little.
Ew, you were thrusting.
A little bit, a little.
I was fucking.
You got to thrust.
I was thrusting to the point where, you know,
as much thrust as you get from squeezing your butt cheeks.
That's all.
I wasn't jackhammering from squeezing your butt cheeks. That's all. I wasn't, I wasn't coming.
I wasn't jackhammering from the bottom, dude.
Yeah.
I was just pinching my butt cheeks a little bit, dude.
You were slow pumping from the bottom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was just meeting her in the middle.
Like genuine.
Yeah.
I was just.
Fuck a space goddess.
I was just meeting her in the middle, bro.
That's all.
I was just being a gentleman, dude, and meeting her in the middle.
Yeah.
Dude, I'm telling you, it sounds so ridiculous, but ridiculous but i the fact that i i got a boner i'm gonna try to replicate this
and i wasn't i wasn't visualizing anything it just felt like there was like a like it very
loosely felt like there was your was your bird near the surface of the water going in and out
of the surface like bobbing up and down it's possible dude yeah you were fucking you were
fucking the surface tension yeah that's very possible dude that that's that makes sense a
water jerk that's rare yeah whoa so when i so the reason why i ended up even trying it is to go back
to what tim butterly was saying earlier i don't know why i use your full name but it's uh we were
watching what we're talking about science first of all Yeah I'm on advanced physics
So
That's why that guy
Dropped the apple
I wonder if I can
Fuck a bathtub
Yeah
Use surface tension
They have to use your full name
For 15 minutes
Well we
Ansley and I
Were watching
Real Sex
It was like years ago
In college
Like you know
Like decades ago
And there was a woman
That was claiming To be able to have
hands-free orgasms and it was like the whole entire episode was about that and it was like
if she can do it i can do it for sure and i was like you can't do that and i was like watch
did she witness well okay the the actually it doesn't even count the first one she watched.
That's cheating.
That's not fair.
Hold on.
I needed a witness.
True, true.
It was a challenge that she issued.
I couldn't do it and then have her come in the room and be like,
Honor Code did it.
True, true.
So the first one had to be seen, but I did take that into consideration because
it was horny as fuck.
Like the idea of her staring at my dick.
Someone's staring at me, betting me I couldn't come.
I'd probably, I almost did just now saying that out loud.
I mean, dude, that's a high, it's still impressive.
It's a very erotic experience.
It's also just staring at a girl until you come.
I mean, that's a dream come true for a bae.
Yeah. I mean, I was like, I had to close my eyes a lot.
I had to like focus and like really try to.
And it wasn't easy.
Did you have to touch your stomach at all?
Nah.
I was like my hands down at my sides, like on the on the futon.
Regulation, dude.
Yeah.
Sitting up or laying down?
Laying down.
I was laying down.
Did she sprinkle like a circle of baking soda around you?
Nah, she was off on the side.
She had to be. She had to be...
It was kind of like she had to be
kind of out of my sexual aura.
Sure, yeah. You know, try and
just stand over there. What kind of rope
are you talking on a mine nut?
It was a...
You know, like it was up a couple packs.
Okay, so you hit the belly? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would be happy for an oozer. If I could
mine ooze, that's all I would take that.
Yeah.
Mind rope is fucking intense, dude.
Yeah, mine is too.
It wasn't as intense as my normal.
Sure.
I can go down.
Did you lock out every joint?
I feel like you can't have any relaxation in your joints.
You got to be completely rigid.
You got to squeeze your thighs for sure on that one.
Yeah, straight legs, straight arms.
If you want to come, there is something with your thigh muscles.
Yeah, you're absolutely right. If you squeeze out, lock out your joints, straight arms. If you want to come, there is something with your thigh muscles. Yeah, you're absolutely right.
If you squeeze out, lock out your joints, it helps.
I remember being pretty – so the next time I tried it was –
You broke your leg.
The next time I tried it was in the bathroom standing up.
Hands on your hips?
I mean, I was doing all sorts of things.
That took forever.
It was just like a very dank environment.
It was like a college.
Just watching the sun and moon time lapse out the window
while he's standing still trying to come.
Did you have roommates?
I had a single.
Oh, that's awesome.
But it was also a single.
You still in there?
It was a single bathroom.
I didn't have a bathroom in my room.
It was like, but as soon as I opened the door, the bathroom was right there.
Gotcha, gotcha.
But it was a bathroom that everybody on the floor would knock on to try to use
because that was our shitting bathroom because it was a private bathroom.
Yeah, yeah.
So it was like, you know, it was a lot of anxiety over that.
Yeah.
And yeah, I mean, it wasn't,
I wouldn't, it wasn't the best come,
but I got it out.
I proved to myself that I could do it.
And you already had a witness on the first one,
so it counted.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it's definitely something that's in the lore.
How would she feel if you were to like,
I mind-cummed again?
What if you started doing that like all the time?
I don't think, I wouldn't be shocked if she doesn't what if you started doing that like all the time i don't think i i wouldn't
be shocked if she doesn't believe i'm always doing that you know do you mind was it were you like two
and done no i mean i've never i never really tried it again i mean it was it was quite a bit of an
effort but the whole the whole thing that i'd love to do this just like sitting under a waterfall
letting it like crest over my shoulders like a small waterfall like a freak just letting the water drape over my shoulders i'm just hands free
coming under it how sick would that be my version of this is i try to give myself a clixon hand job
you know clixon no it's like the person who just rubs the bottom of the shaft and the dude is like
oh and eventually comes tight yeah i tried doing a clixon hand job yeah when i when i met ansley i was like super into
basically a college juvenile version of the same stuff i'm into now but i was really into
being able to control my mind and manipulate reality right dude so when i and i have ansley
to back to verify this i swear to god i invented the wim ho breathing method in college. And I was trying to get Anthony to do it.
What specifically?
You mean like hold your breath?
Yeah, the deep breathing, hold the breath.
And I noticed that it could change something in me.
And I could raise and lower my body temperature.
And so all of her, she lived in a suite.
And we're at a college.
So we're like everybody, we're at a college. So we're like,
everybody,
we're trying to run experiments
to see if I can actually do it.
So it was like,
hold ice in both hands
and have one hand
not melt the ice
and one hand melt the ice.
Dude.
Yeah.
You confused a lot of white girls
who were meeting their first date.
They got this extra bone
that lets them manipulate temperature
She just went home to her parents
Like Dragon Ball Z is real
It's fucking real
He was Scorpion and Sub-Zero
Fuck dude
At the same time
Yeah
That's fucking crazy
Yeah it was like
That's all
I mean it was
Cause you know
I was
When I was hit by the car
When I was a kid
So I was out for
A few days
Like five or seven days Or something And it was never described to me was a kid. So I was out for a few days, like five or seven days or something.
And it was never described to me as a coma.
But it was just I was out in intensive care.
And then I just had like what was going on in my mind.
I remember it very vividly.
And for the rest of my life, I've been trying to get back to that.
You need a new coma.
Yeah.
He's trying to get into a coma.
True, dude.
Yeah.
I got Brittany's car, dude.
I'll go 27 miles an hour.
We'll try to replicate it.
Dude, that's fucking tough.
Yeah, because you said you spent like a week kind of laid up.
How old were you?
It was the summer between fourth and fifth grade.
Dude, a week for a nine to ten year old?
I guess that would be, yeah, nine to ten.
That's an eternity, dude.
In bed?
That's fucking wild.
That's tight.
Yeah, it was pretty sick.
That's tight.
You became prime for mystical states, dude.
Right then and there.
The ice thing is so fucking tight.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
So, dude, basically it takes me to my next point.
So you find bae, stabilize Bae, which obviously you did.
You came in front of her no-handed.
I broke her like a Comanche.
Yeah.
You just stabilized Bae, dude.
So then I'm sitting there.
I can blow her nose.
I'm thinking about being a reality warrior for Bae.
I'm like, damn, this is so fucking tough.
I mean, first of all, this is just what it was to be like a dude in the 40s
who like you just had a job for everybody.
Yeah.
Now like, you know. That's how you know i live yeah exactly just you know so i'm like so i'm sitting there and i'm like damn dude manipulating reality so fucking tight i hope people start doing this
and then i was like oh fuck that's what the matrix is about basically keanu reeves just wakes up and
he's like oh dude i can kind of like i can do whatever i can do stuff i can change stuff and
then who does he see dude when you're out here mindfully manipulating reality
who do you encounter
but a bunch of
Agent Smiths dude
so that's what I was telling
I'm gonna tell the dogs
I'm like when you're out here
you're manipulating reality
people go
you're just like bro
stop Agent Smithing me dude
so that's what happens
you get people who just want you
to pull you back
into the ego mass
and be like
no be like us
we all do the same stuff
and we're comfortable with it
anyone who's spitting
that like negativity out toward you,
and like I said, we don't participate.
We do not participate in negativity.
I used to.
Not anymore.
We're done with it.
It's behind us, dude.
We're growing.
That's old, Sidney.
But when people bring that shit to you.
That's hands-free coming, Sidney.
I'm using hands now, bro.
When people hit you with that shit, all they're really doing is they're just telling you what their their inner voice is telling them like they're getting hit with their own negativity
and they don't know what to do with it so they bring it to you and emotionally they're trying
to hand it off like here deal with deal with this shit i can't take this you just say no did you
keep your hands at your side true you're like your boy wes, they try to hand it to you your hands are at your sides
I'm not
So funny how he does that in the office people get like here
They hold him a piece of paper puts his hands behind his back
He's like if I touch that I have to do I just please explain that to me for it
Yeah, you're right. Yeah, everyone has that voice and there's like a voice in your head or like
It'll stop you from enjoying the things like completely
Without any kind of external input you have a
voice in your head that's like this is gay you're doing something good this sucks you don't like
dude i one of the one of the fucking dogs fucking shout out shout out uh surge he actually mentioned
it on like one of the um the program episodes that we did really he was like this rules but
there's a voice in my head saying this is gay and my response was like yeah everyone's got fucking
gay voice yep it's not you that's that's that's your internalization of all the fucking negativity
that you've allowed to creep into your life dude you could say no you could say no thank you to
all of it for sure yeah you really don't yeah you'd really and especially given that the stakes
are again i always like i always whenever i get whacked out i'm always like what's that steak
here and i'm like i can eat pretty much for like 10 years.
I'm pretty good.
I can get food basically.
I'm not going to die.
So what am I bugging out on?
Dude, you can saturate yourself with all this fucking negative bullshit, all the internet speak, and then still live a pretty normal life.
But every day right now is dedicated to me not
living out the rest of my life the way that way because i was supposed to i'm completely
genetically and sociologically designed to live a fucking internet hater cornball life not happening
dude i'm doing bullshit only those people and you know those people only really exist because we
lack mystical experience anymore.
And that makes people devalue human connection.
Right.
So when there was a time, and again, I'm like, I'm projecting.
Okay.
And like on Two Jack Brothers, we call it, I'm getting in the writer's room here.
I don't know.
I have nothing to back this up, but I think I'm right about this.
Sure.
So at a time when there were mystical experiences,
the people that were negative,
constantly dishing out negativity,
they kept that shit to themselves and went into a corner of the village
and just never fucked with anybody.
They were hermits.
Yeah, no one was fucking with that, bro.
Yeah.
They're like, bro.
Get the fuck out of here.
We're not doing that.
And you see how fucking good I feel right now?
Don't try to break my spirits.
Yeah.
But now that we have such a dilution
of human connection those people just exist amongst us and they trick us into thinking that
they're okay and worthwhile people as well and so it's it's hard in a society where we're like
we're we're integrated so when I say we it's like people who are about a mystical experience and then people who are
being negative,
like we're an integrated society.
Yeah.
And sometimes we have,
we get trained to kind of acquiesce to these people.
Cause a lot of times,
like,
listen,
there are a lot of good teachers out there,
but a lot of times these people find themselves in positions like teaching
because they just,
they're not following a passion.
They just want to get a job real quick.
So then we get trained to acquiesce to like negative fucking haters. Yeah. like teaching because they just, they're not following a passion. They just want to get a job real quick.
So then we get trained to acquiesce to like negative fucking haters.
Yeah.
And our,
it's like,
well, it's also funny too,
because when I,
at this school I'm working at now,
I was like,
I can get a teaching gig.
And I asked the guy,
can I teach here?
He was like,
no.
Yeah.
You're not,
you're not right.
You're not right.
Yeah.
And there's a lot of,
yeah,
there are teachers can get pretty fucking nasty and miserable. Dude, they're not right. You're not right for teaching. Yeah, and there's a lot of, yeah, teachers can get pretty fucking nasty and miserable.
Dude, they're terrible.
Also, too, I remember being 24 and being on YouTube, and I was so fucking ruthless, dude.
If I saw anybody doing anything, I'd be like, yo, that fucking sucks.
What the fuck are you doing?
You're fucking weirdo.
Yeah, yeah.
The one guy I did call out, he was being a pervert.
I stand by that.
But he was doing, like, TikToks, and I was, like, TikTok.
He was commenting on some sort of weird video. was like girls funny girls dancing video and he had
everyone was like oh this is funny and one guy was like can i request another song and i was like
dude you're a fucking pervert but besides him yeah i was i would be on there just fucking with
people because you know at the time that was the spark inside of you that was like i was
true i did was i was stopping at chomo but i was definitely miserable like and it's funny too
because looking back on it now i didn't realize that i was miserable i was just like that fucking
sucks yeah and because there's like this temporary adrenaline boost or like an endorphin boost after
you really shit on someone in a great way. And especially when other people laugh or click a fucking thumbs up.
24 likes on it.
You're like, damn, I'm fucking crushing it.
And like 17 minutes later, you're like,
I'm either going to kill myself or call someone a faggot right now.
Slip a coin.
Yeah.
I was the same way.
It was a defense mechanism.
Like I got really good at
just being a fucking
real piece of shit to people
especially on the internet
but it's cause
I've
you know I got fucking picked on
when I was a kid
well I didn't get picked
I didn't get bullied
I lived in a fucking
I grew up with poor people
everyone just
shredded each other every day
everyone had a shared DOS
everyone was just
so everyone was like
we were like
the fucking
training grounds.
Like where are all the good fighters from now?
Like Dagestan or something like that?
Yeah.
We were the Dagestan of talking shit.
Dude, I was in Target today like getting – buying something where I picked it up and I was like someone's going to make fun of me for holding this thing.
I was holding like nipple guards or something for Brittany and I was like –
For the hoods?
Yeah.
For like a second I was like can I get made fun of for this? And I still have that voice constantly.
Like, can I get made fun of?
Is someone going to come up and be like pussy?
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
If you grew up like that, if people just constantly shredding you, it's like it's tight because
you become kind of a Jedi in that level.
And it's true competition.
It's not like backhanded.
It's not passive aggressive.
It was outright aggression and you had to compete. So even if you were were like a fat kid but you were like kind of a dickhead and
could be funny and that's a lot of like fat dickheads on the internet say things that make
me laugh oh yeah they're also poisoning themselves true yeah so go to the fucking gym gets well yeah
it is a poisonous way to go dude so that's that's basically where i was at i was sitting there i was
just like damn dude where does you know you need to be a neo or agent smith dude and that's basically what I was at I was sitting there I was just like Damn dude Where does You know
You need to be a Neo
Or Agent Smith dude
And that's it
What a great analogy dude
Who doesn't want to be a Neo
So you'd be Neo
Agent Smith
And it is true
Because there tend to be more Neos
Or there tend to be more
Agent Smiths kicking around
Being like
What are you doing
Do you make money with that
Yeah
How's that going
It's like bro
What the fuck
Does it have to do with you
I used to try to I used to try to
I used to try to come to
an understanding
with these people though
and that's what
frustrates me the most
like the time I spent
trying to
let those people know
like look
I don't have a problem
with the way you live your life
I just think different
yeah
and dude
it was just
it's just wasted time
like that's all
that's all I really was trying
to get across
but coming back from them was just,
how do you not end every argument with,
I was in a coma and I can come hands free now.
I wouldn't,
I wouldn't,
I wouldn't listen to a single thing.
Honestly,
sorry,
I can't hear you.
I'm coming right now.
Let's get your man hands.
Well,
it also gets into how people think we're like super distinct separate entities but
we're way more permeable we're like i can just be going about my day and some guy can be like
bitch and i'm like wow god what the fuck is that about and it's like people think they're like
these we're these weird like we're like totally separate and it's do we kind of have for the most
part access to each other's like nervous. We don't appreciate that anymore.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what having spiritual connections make you appreciate about each other.
The fact that there are these weird neural connections that can't be explained, but definitely exist.
How long ago do you think we lost, if we did have it at one point and we lost it, how long ago do you think it was?
1994.
I saw the sign.
It was on the radio.
It was the OJ trial.
When you say lost, what do you mean?
Well, because no one's been doing anything mystical for the past 2,000 years.
I think when the Catholic Church came around and cut everyone's heads off off they made it all super fucking lame they did well obviously too what
what do you need the catholic church for if you're like i'm gonna eat that some guys like here give
me 10 of your income and he's like i'll just eat that thing and like bug out in the woods for a
couple days they're like what's that devil and they cut your head off yeah so did the mayans
they went around well the mayans were the mayans were into head cutting off too they were sacrificing
there's some people
that like to say like
oh they just made that
no they were sacrificing
yeah that's
that's kind of like
our quest
that is our new
like Anthony and I
our new
quest is to
to bring back
spiritual experiences
so I mean like
the whole
our whole last episode
of Two Jack Bros
was basically
like
this talk
but instead of using mystical experiences
we were talking about bringing back spiritual
there was also
Nazi shit but there was like
we figured out a good reason for to bring
Nazis back
dude I'm telling you man
we're in the age of Aquarius
you can't even stop it
it's coming
like water we gotta bring it in We're in the age of Aquarius, dude. You can't even stop it. Yeah. You can't even stop it, dude. It's coming.
Dude, like water.
We got to bring it in.
It's coming, dude. Beware of the man holding water.
It's like...
The Christian era is over, dude.
I hate to break it to people.
I mean, you can still be a Christian, do your thing, but, you know, you're on the tail end
of a neon, dude.
What do you think the age of Aquarius, then, is going to usher in?
Psychedelics?
Yeah.
Psychedelics? Yeah. Psychedelics?
Yeah.
I think people will start – once they become – they're already becoming decriminalized.
And once like there's going to be the next 20 years, people are going to set up like retreats.
They're going to combine Western science so like they can literally measure – they could take a lot of the anxiety out of it by like – they could do the test to be like, no, you are 100% safe.
Bam, go do this thing now.
Yeah, I had like a normie friend post something about like a psilocybin study and all that stuff.
And I was like, yeah, it's actually pretty tight.
And then I was like, oh, by the way, my buddy convinced me to do mushrooms every day for two months last year.
My life's never going to be the same.
I'm telling you, dude, I think this is going to be it's the only thing that makes sense in terms of because like most ideologies end up getting
perverted by people's like let's say like their id impulses so you can have like like dude i'm
with a bunch of social justice warriors their whole thing is inclusivity but it's like if you
try to be if you try to think you're you have access to an idea that's just all good like
we're just inclusive we're the ones doing the right stuff what happens is is that like you're you have access to an idea that's just all good like we're just inclusive we're the
ones doing the right stuff what happens is is that like you're just subconsciously you're just going
to reenact the thing that you're against you know what i mean like yeah so basically they they're
like we're so good and then they'll be like we'll study a theorist and they're like he's of course
he's an arrogant white man and you're like yeah huh that's weird that's a weird hang up this i
mean this guy has volumes
of fucking stuff to talk about and dude literally i'm in a class where for 10 solid minutes people
are like well you know how arrogant white old men can be and it's like what the fuck are you guys
it's like it's an uncle table dude i'm like i've been in this city like i've been here
at a construction site with a bunch of uncles talking about puerto ricans and it's the same
way you talk puerto ricans or someone's like i gotta fucking say it man they just go say something
about them being puerto rican you it's the same thing i'm just with young white chicks who are
like white men it's like they're just like naive and they don't understand that they they are just
playing like the b side of a domination game yeah that's all history is just like people taking
turns dominating and now that like they're getting
a little bit of like social say they're getting towards the top of like the hierarchy and when
they get to the top they're gonna be like oh we're dominating everyone this is actually pretty sick
let's get this one well then that's the thing if you have an ideology you can in theory be like
this all makes sense but when you're like you know there's it like there's ego and psychoanalysis the
id is just your animal impulses to like tribalism and just kind of domination, all this stuff.
While you're like, yeah, we're so we're just inclusive or that you have all these weird impulses where like you're now like building hierarchies around like who's the biggest social justice warrior.
Like all that human behavior just emerges subconsciously and plays out in like a really ugly way.
And that's why, you know, you had like communism.
They're all just like, like oh we're the boss like exactly what you said where they're like
yeah we're in charge now but we're good and we should be in charge and yeah everyone who
disagrees dies yeah yeah yeah it literally it like it to me seems inescapable where there's
there was that one i forget who it was i think it was a civil rights guy who was like if you draw a
small circle to keep me out of it i'm going to draw a bigger circle and include you.
And the people I feel like I'm with are like taking that small circle
and being like, we're going to put it on us now.
Yeah, and it's – I'm like articulating this as you're talking,
but so you have these people who are like these social –
because they're not really inclusive. Well, we know like they're not they're not really inclusive well
we know that they're not inclusive but it's uh i keep talking let me come back to this go so
basically oh so this is what i was saying so i think psychedelics will be it's because like all
the ideologies kind of fall apart just because our human nature kind of like gets embedded in
them and fucks them up which i guess could happen i guess it does happen but i just feel like
there's something inherent in people using kind of psychedelics where like it does
kind of flatten your ego enough to where like it's hard to keep if you're like in a circle of people
so the human connection that they have now is is narrowed right so they're losing actual human
connection they're narrowing it to this like this this anger and vitriol towards a
thing sure right and so it's like i saw something like you see how you see it you see because uh
like like that spiritual connection like those they're like spiritual emotions right like being
impressed by something it's kind of like a spiritual experience it's moving like once
and like i i know tim i know matt like i i know you guys are
impressed by small things like that's one of the things that i appreciate about the two of you is
like it like i see i see it on a regular basis especially with butterly at jiu-jitsu and being
impressed with like little kids just doing nothing you know which i'm impressed too and you know i'm
so tuned into fucking appreciating
little things that you could mistake me for a retarded person absolutely i dude i could attest
to that i've seen it a lot of long wows yeah
i'm like left to come back to him in the middle of the same wow. I can't hold wows in, dude.
And every single one's genuine.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
But with that being said, it's like they're just creating, like, you know, this lack of a spiritual experience.
And they're just creating hate.
It's like because, you know, like happiness.
Because it's better than nothing.
It is.
It's either an emotional lacuna or you're mad all the time and shitting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's an attachment.
It's seeking an attachment.
So here's what I saw that made me get on how they're not impressed by anything.
So I was watching Social Justice Warrior talk on something, and they mentioned how, like, when slavery was ended or something.
And he was like, well, wasn't that a good thing?
And the guy was like, no, it wasn't a good thing it should have ended sooner and it's like whoa whoa whoa not only
was that a good thing that was actually kind of impressive like to just like go against cultural
you know ideology and like nah we're fucking ending this and we'll fight you for it
you know it's like come on man i said that in my school and people said that i support
slavery so yeah they're like well he's like no i was like you guys are doing that was like actually
we could have used a little bit more slavery but i'm glad i was saying the same thing i'm like you
guys are thinking about slavery in the abstract you guys are dealing with it now but if you were
like if one day they were like oh if you're not a vegan you're akin to a slave owner everyone would
be like but everyone will fuck i didn't know i
didn't know about veganism 15 years ago yeah you didn't jump on it in time history's gonna judge
you harshly well no and it's not obviously well yeah it's obviously not the same thing but it's
like i mean it's i guess it's something that like again like you're saying and it was the cultural
norm and for people to go against and again the people who are basically sucking up the cultural
norm with the straw to be like we'd be the ones who wouldn't do it.
It's like, no.
Also, they ended slavery without the internet.
True.
There was no way to find the other people that you could say no more slavery to.
True that.
You couldn't put up an anonymous post anywhere.
You had to fucking ask a guy to put down a tool and be like,
listen, the slavery thing is kind of weird.
Yeah, some guy would just shoot you with a fucking like, some guy would shoot you with like a tennis ball sized bullet.
You'd be like, fuck.
Shit.
Yeah.
Your bones explode from everything that hits you.
Fine, fine, fine, fine, fine.
Slavery is cool.
That's a zoomed out perspective.
And that's literally, I would argue, that's kind of a perspective that, you it's a very open-minded perspective to be like yeah well like think about what like
that time to be like yeah we're going to stop it's so it's crazily impressive well and nobody
nobody really i people think they have an appreciation for the time period but they
don't because they take every racial discomfort right and they look at it through the lens of
slavery and like this this is like a theory that
ansley and i were talking about recently i don't mean to because i know like some people listen to
the all the podcasts and i don't yeah i'm not trying to regurgitate shit but it's just like
this isn't the floating so but um oh fuck what was i just saying talking about i'm like hi i'm
apologizing you and ansley are talking about how slavery should come back.
Exactly.
So everybody looks at, so it'll be a situation, right?
So we're talking about things that are racially uncomfortable.
Yeah.
So if, say if a black, an older black man yells at four black guys to turn down their music.
Nobody thinks anything of it.
Yeah.
An older white guy yells at four black guys to turn down their music.
Now people are looking at that through the lens of slavery. They're looking at it through the eye
that white guy being a master
and these black guys being a slave.
Unless it's Clint Eastwood, but yes.
He doesn't, somehow he has a tribe.
No, I agree. That's accurate.
Yeah, and it's like, it's not something, that's not
racist. That guy's not being racist because
you're uncomfortable with the imagery that you're putting in your own mind.
He's not a slave master.
Those kids are slaves like that.
Every racially uncomfortable thing doesn't isn't racist.
It's just they're putting it through the lens.
They're literally putting it through the lens of, well, if that guy was a slave master and those were slaves, that would be a really rude thing he just said.
Yeah.
No, it's true.
That's something that people, I don't think, are ready to start thinking like that for
the most part.
But I think you're right.
I mean, dude, right now in my school.
Come to Two Jack Brothers, we're thinking like that.
Dude, right now.
That's what's up.
A hundred percent, dude.
In my school, it's Black History Month.
And I'm in a 99% black high school.
And I'm working.
And it's like, for me, It's like, it's for me,
it's like a fucking like haunted hayride,
right?
Every time I turn a corner,
it will just be like a poster of a black guy drinking from white's only water fountain.
I'm like,
ah,
fuck.
God damn it.
I forgot about that.
I look at the next thing.
I'm like,
Oh,
that was bad.
That was bad.
Every other time I turn around,
I'm like,
ah,
I take it all back.
I take it on back.
But,
but yeah,
there is a,
yeah.
I mean, there's also the whole thing of Black History Month is it's split because it's like kids I think are genuinely excited to be like – like black kids are like, yeah, this is awesome.
We get to talk.
This is stuff we're interested in.
We get to talk about.
Then you do get some even who are like, why the fuck do we have Black History Month anyway?
It should just be like a normal – it should just be integrated into all the rest of the month.
I shouldn't say that for every class they do though i have a calculator why am i doing that that was me but yeah you do uh
it would it would be i think it would be helpful not only for black kids but just for a more
honest view of history or a a more honest view of history
or a more encompassing view of history.
It's just, I mean, there was, like,
the only black person you learn about
outside of Black History Month that I really remember,
and maybe it's because it's funny to me,
is Christopher Addicks.
He was the first person killed in the Revolutionary War.
At the beginning, he was the first person
killed somehow.
Was he really?
Yeah, it was a black dude.
Oh, my God.
Some dude was pointing
at the other guys,
like, what the fuck?
All right, ready?
Begin.
All right, ready?
All right, start.
All right, I took care of that.
Now we can fight.
All right, guys, we're at war.
Stop killing your slaves.
We're starting now.
Revolutionary War just ended.
Everyone's like, oh.
That sucks. The guy war just ended. Everyone's like, oh. That sucks.
The guy was just walking around.
He like walked out of a bar
and got shot.
Some guy was like, holy shit.
Yeah, basically.
They were like, you saw him.
He had a musket.
He had a fucking,
oh, fuck, that was a stick.
All right.
Put that musket, put that musket.
That was just a stick.
Fuck.
Was that hemp?
Was he smoking hemp?
Hey, that hemp seller.
Yeah, there that I mean, that'll be Black History Month in 30 years will be looked at
kind of like you guys were still doing that.
Yeah.
I said, like, come on, guys.
What the fuck?
Yeah.
Which, you know, but again, like who's going to be the one to be like, all right, we're
done. We're not doing it this year. I was like, what the fuck yeah which you know but again like who's gonna be the one to be like all right we're done
like we're not doing it this year i was like what the fuck in 30 years every month's gonna
be black history month true well they could just teach history because there's like critical theory
which is that's like the really like you were saying it's only looks through things in terms
of power relationships where it's like any racial issue is a legacy of slavery like no matter what
yeah so it's like you can,
and then you have like,
you know,
Catholic grade school history.
That's just like,
nah,
dude,
we were actually pretty nice to the Indians.
So you could just like merge them all together where it just gives you the
three 60 panoramic view where it's just like,
yeah,
this was kind of fucked up.
This was kind of tight.
This was a fucked up thing that for the time,
if you think about it now really wasn't,
you know what I mean?
So it's like,
they could rework history in a way that just kind of includes everything so you're
not watching it being like these motherfuckers i was actually more thinking from the angle that
like uh mainstream culture has been slowly absorbing black culture but the pace is like
picking up now because of like white girls on twitter and in 30 years it's there it's gonna be
like black people aren't gonna be able to create new black culture fast enough
to outrun mainstream culture
wow we need so
black culture is
black culture can end all of this bullshit
that's going on with like social justice
and inclusivity and getting
rid of black history month is a step in the right direction
hear me out so
the fact that we have black history month
is giving the message especially to the
social justice warriors that there still needs to be special spaces carved out yeah for certain
groups in order to be inclusive yeah right which is completely backwards right 100 so like right so i just saw this uh on the way up here i was watching uh this uh anthony
brian logan oh dude abl conservative he's a hard black conservative nerd too yeah he's unabashed
nerd which i don't even know i'm like definitely some i'm definitely more moderate but i love
saying that i'm a black conservative i'm a white black conservative. Yeah, you are.
I'm a black moderate.
I'm more of a Leo Dunstan guy.
Yeah.
He starts preaching.
Oh, I'm preaching now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he's covering the story of this black girl at the University of Virginia.
She's in a multicultural room on campus.
And she stands up and she makes this speech about the fact that there are too many
white people in this multicultural room it's making her uncomfortable and they should all
know that this is the space for minorities and as a and she called herself a fucking poc
you know and it's like dude we gotta stop that because like that didn't look cool
At all. Yeah, but how I would not be able to resist if someone if I again if my wheels are spinning I'm like dude, I can easily get all the white people out here right now
Watch this. I gotta try this. I can't excuse me, dude
I would that would be hard not to wield that there needs to be some honesty around that because when I was in college like
I went to you know, Lafayette College like four percent minorities like two percent black and we would
definitely you know and i was always i'm always down with white people but like if we're gonna
fucking you know get a little uh you know like mischievous like i'll fucking do it you know so
we definitely plenty of times like sat around and like concocted ways to make white people feel uncomfortable.
For sure.
I don't understand how you would not do that.
Dude, all the time.
And like there would be sometimes I'd be doing it without my group.
It's out there winging it, you know?
It's just like, man, I don't even know why I'm doing this, but it's fun.
That's why Sydney's really popular in the stand-up comedy.
That's why Sidney's really popular in the stand-up comedy.
Well, there is something to be said for being outnumbered by people who don't look like you.
There is something to be, like, whenever I go visit Brittany's family in Chicago,
I'm, and if you go to Chicago, it's, like, deadly segregated, like, dead segregated,
where I'm literally the only white person around you go into like your first
experience with all black walmart where it's like the guy selling comcast plans with black everyone
working there is black every customer is black yeah i went in there with we literally dude please
come to fucking harrogate whenever you have time what's what's harrogate that's where i live it's
so that's that's i live in a black and puerto rican neighborhood so that i'm saying at least
it's it's integrated though like philly uh in that it's black and Puerto Rican.
Yeah.
I have the white family in my neighborhood.
True.
That is true.
But it's also like a couple,
you can go a couple blocks over or like I could walk to a different
neighborhood.
The South side of Chicago is like,
it's like a megalopolis.
It's a megalopolis.
It's like, you'd have to like you'd have to ride for like 10 minutes before you're like oh shit a white person and it's so
funny because it's like you know i've been in that in philly i've been in that situation doing
like a bar where i'm the only white person involved in an area but you're the south side
of chicago and i'm like i'm in literally i'm in, I'm in all black Walmart and then we were actually
buying Kool-Aid
for a family function.
Yeah.
So then Brittany
bought Kool-Aid
and it was like,
In every aisle
there's Kool-Aid
in every aisle.
It's always self.
It's like,
whoa.
The only grab item
at the register is Kool-Aid.
Excuse me,
where are the smoke alarm batteries?
What are you talking about?
We don't have.
The what?
The BP things? It's like, they they have the doors they have the door cell display but it's all kool-aid in it just like just like cool i just smashed it dude i was in i'm in all black walmart
i'm in fucking wakanda mark dude
i'm in there with britney and i like, I'm all right. And I,
the whole point of this is I was like,
there is something to be said for being like just the only person of your skin
color in like an entire area. As far as you can see, it's a weird,
because people, then you're just getting the mind games. You're like,
is that guy staring at me? Am I, am I just being weird?
Cause I'm the only white person. You know what I mean? So I'm like,
I don't know. I was like, for me, I'm like, you know, I'm,
I wasn't really uncomfortable like that, but that was the first time i was like act i was
physically aware of i'm like i'm being weird right now they probably all just thought you were a
producer like dude i gotta get my fucking i gotta get my cd in this dude's hands he's clearly a
scout he's a talent i think we know who the secret shopper is hey my man hey my man hey my man
dude i walk up i mean I'm in the fucking... You're just handing him CDs.
I go in, and I'm like, I'm in the drink aisle, and we're getting the Kool-Aid, and then she's
like, we got to get sugar now.
And I was like, what the fuck do you need sugar for?
You were getting Kool-Aid.
And dude, literally, people looked at me.
Like the whole Walmart stopped.
And I was like...
And she just started laughing.
She was like, you fucking idiot. I was like, I only ever had the instant Kool-Aid. And I'm like, I she just started laughing. She was like, you fucking idiot.
I was like,
I only ever had the instant Kool-Aid.
And I'm like,
I never made powder Kool-Aid.
I'm like,
I've had instant,
the stuff at the gas station,
the squeeze bottle.
Yeah,
she didn't need sugar.
She needed too much sugar.
Can you send me to the too much sugar aisle,
please?
She's like,
make it left by the diabetes socks.
he's like uh make it left by the diabetes socks but yeah there is something to be said for that in terms of like
being outnumbered in terms of you know every black grandma sounds the same
i mean like they all have the same phrase like boy if you don't
what happened was like you have to be in an entire hallmark full of all them saying all the same phrase. Boy, if you don't, what happened? You have to be in an entire
Walmart full of all of them saying all the same
shit.
Like being John Malkovich.
What happened?
You better go ahead.
That's what we're not going to do.
It's just like
a...
Oh, fuck. Oh, my God.
Oh, man.
Dude, if that was Agent Smith, I'd gladly give up my vision quest.
I'll just touch me and I think, just switch the Oracle and Agent Smith.
Just so I can walk around like, oh, no.
Oh, oh no. Oh my God, man.
Let me quit playing.
Dude.
But yeah, man.
I don't even know
what my point was.
But yeah, that is,
people do need to start
chilling out.
I think people are doing it.
Yeah, with all that sugar
and the Kool-Aid.
Black people need to chill
with the diabetes
i'm in a school with a guy who's it's a picture of a guy like smiling in front of a white's only
fountain like drinking the water hilarious picture but then it's like black history month and i'm
like he's pouring sugar into the water
into his mouth so that it meets the water stream. You're saying that the water fountains weren't sweet enough?
They're like, what the fuck is that?
That's why it was whites only.
It's like black people labeled it.
They're like that.
There's a guy who just dropped crystal light on your tongue.
That was like, Jesus fucking Christ.
Some black grandma was like, don Christ Like some black grandma
Was like
Don't be drinking from that
Black
White people don't
Flavor their water
Oh you never had
Black water fountains
I gotta do
I gotta look into the literature
And see if that was the case
Yeah
By the way that was like
I have a theory
I have a theory
That one of the reasons
That black people
Don't like drinking water now
Goes back to those water fountains Really reasons that black people don't like drinking water now goes back to those water fountains.
Really?
Yeah.
Because black people do not like drinking water, man.
I do not understand.
It's a tough pitch.
It's crazy.
It's like black people love being athletes and hate drinking water, too.
It's like a weird combination.
I also think that that's why they don't use crosswalks and they walk really slow crossing the street.
It's like the first active disobed against like the structure that they learned oh i thought
you're going to say the first physical act they want to do is basketball like they want to they
want to save their energy for basketball i thought you were saying they're so dehydrated they're just
having like a mirage and we're like walking through they don't want to cramp they're cramping
across the street that's why we walk with a limp we're
cramping we don't drink the water they just disrupt uh disrupt traffic because it's like
you know that's the man everything's set up against this i'm just gonna fucking do this
yeah i feel like if you were if you were so you know like a white racist dude you have that all
like you know perpetuate they have that like pan it down to you you're gonna walk around you know you're just gonna be like doing shit like fuck you and people you have that all like, you know, perpetuate. They have that like pan it down to you. You're going to walk around, you know, you're just going to be like doing shit like fuck you.
You know, that's like something you got to kind of keep under wraps.
You know, if you're like a black dude who's being like fully like I'm oppressed, this never ended.
I'm still getting fucked.
Of course, you see a crosswalk.
You're like, what?
This is just mechanisms of the fucking oppressive machine.
Respect.
Fuck this shit.
I'm going as slow as I can.
So I have a theory on crosswalks too.
White people also walk slowly across the streets.
I made full sprint.
I've never crossed the street without sprinting.
Car nod.
Excuse me.
Sorry.
I know.
But there's a lot of white guys and white chicks
that are out there doing that,
but they do it a little bit differently.
And like Tim was saying,
when black people do it,
it is an act of rebellion.
The energy is definitely going towards the people in the car.
And you feel it.
When white people do it, because they want to be like, I don't want to be a part of this.
You know, the energy is going the other way.
Black people definitely want you to know that they're walking slow.
Fuck yeah.
I nailed it.
Yeah, I do agree.
And there's also, there is a lot of, especially Drexel's campus, dude.
A lot of, for some reason, college kids fucking walk across so slow.
And it's kind of.
Because they're all retarded.
Yeah.
And it's a rebellious age, too.
Yeah.
It's like, this is the first time in their life that they get to really actually manipulate their reality.
True. Because they don't
have, they're free. They're
in here. I mean, I remember when I was going to college,
I was like, man,
when I go to college, should I start
with a French accent?
Like, I really considered that.
Like, I was really, I loved Gamut from
The X-Men. It was like, it was going to be more of
a Cajun Creole thing, but it was like,
I considered it. Corner of a cajun creole thing but it was like i considered it what's for sure is a lot of the on whatever however you slice it and whenever you know
whatever part of the spectrum you're rocking from you start eating mushrooms and doing deep dives
this shit hits the fucking this shit falls apart of being like, um, uh, this and that.
And like, if you get like, the burden is lifted, dude.
Yeah, exactly.
I, I, that's my personal opinion.
This shit starts to dissolve, you know, these weird, like, like artificial boundaries and
stuff.
I would actually, uh, liken it to when we had our first child and I was like, Whoa,
there's so much shit I don't actually care about. but then it didn't reduce my stress at all I was just like
the stuff that I'm obligated to do to take care of a family now shout out all
the dads who hold the racism tight while having a kid they're like I gotta pass
the baton no clearly about me you had this you're like oh what am I even their
dads I can go through such an awe-inspiring experience and be like,
I got to tell you something about Porto.
Yeah, I was talking more about like –
You think I'm going to come at you?
Like arguing with like a boss or something like that.
And then I was like, oh, I don't give a –
there's not a boss in the world I could care about at all.
I'll go through the motions to provide, obviously.
And then the mushrooms thing was like that times 100.
Yeah, what was that like for – we all had different setups.
You were in the office doing that.
Yeah, I was going to work every day.
How was that?
It was great.
I was more productive.
Dude, weed and mushrooms makes me a better dad.
Definitely makes me a better employee.
Did people say anything? Like, man, you really got to pep in yourself. There was one guy who caught me on a better employee. Do people say anything?
Like, man,
you really got to pep in yourself.
There was one guy
who caught me on weed one day.
What'd he say?
Well, he needed help
with his...
That's so funny, first of all.
He caught me on weed.
I won't say what job
this was at,
but I've always been
an IT guy.
I was helping someone
with a computer thing
way too early in the morning
for the day I had planned.
Sure.
And I remember at one point he said something and I had to ask him to repeat
it.
And I had to,
I was sitting at his desk while he was standing across from it and I was on
his computer and I looked up at him and the light was right behind him.
So it was just double crunchy eyeballs.
And he was like,
he gave me a look that let me know.
And he was pretty high up in the company.
And he was, it was just like, I understand that you are partying way too hard right now.
But I think there was also a little bit of like, go ahead, young man, from him.
It's kind of like, that's what's up, bro.
I feel like IT guys are under like a special protected class.
Because we're all autistic.
Yeah.
You cannot get, yeah.
It's like fat or pregnant for women.
That's like high or autistic for IT guys. or pregnant for women. That's like higher autistic for it.
It's not a game you want to play.
I'm sorry.
I'll never ask again.
I'll never.
Oh my God.
I asked once.
Yeah,
dude,
I'm telling you,
man,
the spiritual experiences being put, it's just, it's coming out of everybody dude it is it's really and that's dude today i'm sitting there so this is a thought
i had it sounds kind of corny but i don't care it was like so i'm walking around i'm taking i take
my breaks between like i'm seeing kids doing therapy and i'm like i usually take walks between
them because it's like sometimes the shit's just really kind of like weighs you down a little
heavy yeah so i'm taking a walk and there's out of nowhere i started thinking about
same thing it's all my mind spiritual experiences i'm like damn dude i people just got to get way
more way more spiritual so and i don't even know where i started thinking about this so i started
thinking about the concept of god like when people say like you know they believe in god and i'm like
it just dawned on me to say like well, okay, people say God's everything.
They're like, God is everything, which is, in a way, if you have a relationship with God, you just have a relationship with everything simultaneously, which produces all.
Does that make sense?
Sure.
So it's like, rather than being sucked into your own little world of like, why me?
You're walking around having a relationship with everything
okay i could i appreciate that yeah in a way so and then if that's the case and you start going
okay so it's everything's then you start every person you encounter you're treating with a
certain level of respect because you're saying like you're not just some fucking you're literally
part of everything that i'm in all of. That's basically what Western society
is dictated off of.
You can't go around just killing people
because they have a divine spark inside them.
So I believe in the wisdom of the ancients.
I get into that stuff.
I've read some mysticism books
and things like that.
So I've always been trying to reconcile
the ancients and their wisdom towards the idea of blasphemy.
I don't know when the word blasphemy or the concept came into existence,
but it seems like it went hand in hand with the Bible.
That's how I learned it.
So like you said, if God is everything, then we are also gods. just like you said like we're all part of the
everything but you know you don't you don't want to say we are also gods because of the
that line of blasphemy so what what is that like was is blasphemy something that we need to
like rein in ourselves or was that something that was put upon us to rein us in you know because
you can't control people you can't convince people that they have to you know live a certain way
not if i'm a god right like exactly i'll live my way and if it works and i'm not hurting people
then that's okay like why should i have to acquiesce to your system yeah so that's that's
literally the conscious manipulation
of reality.
You're creating
your reality
rather than being
a passive acceptor
of what's happening.
Yeah.
That's the sacred church
of dogology, bro.
Of,
like,
exactly what you're saying.
Like,
taking part
in the structuring
of the events
and reality around you
rather than being like,
this sucks,
pizza rules,
and like,
just, or you can just go into the matrix of internet culture
and just be like, repeat bullshit
that you hear and see. I feel like we all
found strange rings
in different locations and just happened to
come together. Yes.
In real life.
Yes.
Yes.
It's like we walked past each other and the ring's glued.
It's like, what the fuck was that?
I'm telling you, man.
And that, dude, that makes perfect.
And that's literally what mysticism is, is saying that we are people, are gods, and everything is, you know, that way, like, that's how you kind of deal with it.
By the way, I was on my way here.
I was saying, because I had this, like, as a man, if another man helps you move something heavy into or out of your house
you're indebted to them
for life
so it's just like
a way that I feel
like and I have
two people
like on my way here
two of the people
that I am indebted to
for life
that's awesome dude
I'm simultaneously
indebted to life
Sidney help me move
dude that's how you
that's how you build
good for
I can't wait to move
I know you would help me move
so I'm also indebted
it's unspoken
people ask me I'm the same way I'm like yes I can't people are like can you help you would help me move. So I'm also indebted. Yeah. Unspoken. People ask me.
I'm the same way.
I have.
I'm like, yes, I can.
People like you help me move.
I'm like, yes, I get excited to help you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I also I do get a weird like they're going to see how strong I am.
I did labor for a while and they're going to see him a laborer.
I do get pumped on that.
I don't even know if you know the story of how he helped me move a dishwasher out of a house that was being built and it was on a level that
there weren't stairs to so we had to like make a lot a makeshift ladder system and like pulley
system to get this washer down to the next it was amazing it was tight it was one of the it was one
of my favorite things i was so happy to be able to walk in there i'm like there's probably a ladder
in here somewhere so he fucking set up this big, weird, complicated ladder.
It was tight.
Yeah, that was pretty sick.
I wish we would.
And we got straight to work.
We got straight to the brainstorming, straight to the action.
Like, there was no time to like, oh, maybe we should set up a phone and record this shit.
Yeah, dude.
Like, never even came to my mind.
That's like a perfect Sunday.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It started raining, too.
Toiling, but with a purpose.
Yeah, dude.
Building value in your friend's life. It was awesome. Yeah, it was sick. I mean, you told me there's washers and dryers that we had. oh yeah it started raining too so we like toiling but with a purpose yeah dude building value
in your friend's life
it was awesome
yeah
it was sick
I mean you told me
there was washers and dryers
that we had
and I'm like
let's go get these
fucking things
let's go get these
free dub in a day
come on
let's go get
let's go get these
fucking things
but yeah man
that's I'm telling you
that's Age of Aquarius
this is where it's coming in dude
mystical experiences
conscious manipulation
of reality
stabilized bay.
People start Agent Smithing you on your reality quest.
You just stop Agent Smithing me.
And then you get to explain dogology to them.
And they just go, brr.
Their sunglasses and suit comes off and they're like, brr.
I've always wanted to.
I was like, just go do it, bro.
Yeah.
Man.
I'm telling you, man.
I feel almost obligated to helping people usher in spiritual experiences
right now. That's what
Ansley and I realized on our last episode.
This is our passion. This is what we are
to do.
Of course, we're still going to
be assholes and almost racist and
sexist all the time.
We're showing people
what we really are.
We're trying to.
That's not racist. That's really are. We're trying to. It's like like the thing we're talking about, like, dude, that's not racist.
That's just uncomfortable.
Sure.
You're associating it with a racist time.
Like, come on, man.
Let's connect.
Yeah, exactly.
And it's like I'd rather hear people's fucked up thoughts on stuff than have someone sit here and be like, I don't I don't know. You guys are right.
And it's like, dude, what the fuck is kicking around in your head that you're fucking geeking out?
If I hear people saying fucked up stuff and laughing, I'm like, oh, what a fun time.
But if someone's like, I can't hear any of these thoughts, it's like, bro, what the fuck?
That's an unnatural reaction.
Yeah.
Dude, speaking of this.
That is an unnatural reaction.
Yeah.
Speaking of Sid Nansley's podcast, Two Jack Bros.
Shout out.
Have you and Shane taken a moment to appreciate how many facets of
life are being covered by the chat digital umbrella?
Dude, it's, it's unbelievable.
It's crazy.
It's unbelievable.
It's fucking a lot of overlap.
Yeah.
No dude.
Which is crazy.
Yeah.
I love being, uh, I love being a part of this group by the way.
Yeah.
I mean, two Jack brothers come at us, you know, we're, we're, we're here, but it's like,
I love being Spudman loves Spudman. It's so it's so nice dude this is i love the people that love us i love the the love that we
get it just makes me feel so good man that's what's up it's uh yeah it's it's fun and it's i
love that i can listen to all of the podcasts and the only overlap is i'm going to laugh yeah and
it's like i'm gonna laugh hard it's like I'm going to laugh hard.
It's like I'm going to have a good time.
I think Matt's kind of like Doctor Strange-ing like a central theme to it all, though.
It's all like he's built like a tower of light and it's all just fucking ascending and radiating around it.
I mean, we're all the same thing, dude.
It's just fucking, you know what I'm saying?
It's all just happening.
Everyone's all in.
But like.
No, I'm saying we're all the same thing.
Of course, I'm not even.
This isn't even conscious manipulation. So, yeah, you've got you got fucking six and no I'm saying we're all the same thing of course I'm not even this isn't even conscious manipulation
bro
you've got
you've got fucking
Six and Shaner
they're just the id
they're the id aspect
Six and Shaner are the id
they're the idiot aspect
they're the id dude
dude we just did a fucking
swap cast with them too
that's fun dude
that's fun man
I wanna
I feel like
with the way that we
kinda also like
get into subjects
pretty heavily at times.
I think I want to try to do a swap cast with oral presentations.
Yeah, you should.
Dude, oral presentations, the studious nature of it.
Yes.
I'm telling you.
The half understanding of everything and being okay with it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It is.
Did you listen to his one on electricity?
Not yet.
Not yet.
Thunderstorms.
Dude, it's like delightful to listen to him explain how that actually works.
I was laughing.
I was doing the dishes listening to it, and I was like, Jesus fucking Christ.
Dude, this is right up our alley.
It's like, that's like a...
Well, it's that shit where you don't have to try that hard to be funny.
Just talk about something you're into, and if you're naturally funny, the stuff will come.
He's coming in with us tomorrow night, I think.
Huh?
He's coming in with us tomorrow night, I think.
Oh, he's coming on Dad Meet? I think he's doing he's gonna he's coming i think he's doing dad meet oh yes
he told me that yeah that's another thing we're we're we're about we don't really do interviews
and stuff we don't we don't bring guests on but now that we feel like we know our path in life
we're ready to start bringing on some guests yeah i mean dude wait till and this was the this was
the final total cap of the float
tank is the stink tank now is going to be the sacred church, the church of sacred dog
ology.
So then we're going to do, we're still going to do that live show.
Me, Sydney, Butterly Gillis is going to come on the first one right now.
Butterly and Sydney are training, right?
They're going to go into training, do a couple of floats, did a horse trade.
I was like, Hey Russ, horse trade, did a horse trade. Oh, hey russ horse trade did a horse trade old russ yeah do you see honey boy no oh fuck dude shia labouf plays his dad he's horse
trade dude it's the funniest fucking thing but um yeah so now instead of the stink tank this will
be called the church of sacred dog ology live show all all four of it'll be the three of us
every single time and then whoever else we'll get some people in
it'll basically be a baptism
of whoever wants to do
the show
so it'll be four comedians
float tanking
stoned to the gourd
and then coming out
of a float tank
showering
live audience
videotaped
let's fucking go
sharing the wisdom
let's fucking go
sharing the wisdom
I'm not gonna put a shirt on
sometimes
I just
people need to see this
dude it's gonna to be nuts.
And obviously, if you're there, have a fucking blast.
Yeah.
If you catch my motherfucking date, set a fucking date.
I'm saying I got it.
I just I have to have Shane on this first one.
So whenever I'm shooting for like late April and we're doing that show in April right now.
So I'm going to try to see when he has a weekend off in April, early May.
As soon as I pin that down, I'm saying date will get set because you're that absolutely needs to happen
fuck yeah the date will get set i'm looking for like early may late april oh my god i forgot i
forgot about the live show aspect of it bro it's gonna be crazy damn i think it's gonna be awesome
because i just did it by myself and i was like I just came out of there with like 45 minutes worth of shit to talk about.
Time's up by three other people.
It's going to be insane, dude.
Yeah.
Well, I've only, I recently-
I just realized my shirt's tucked in.
Sorry.
Yeah, it's all good.
You're a dad now.
So what'd you realize?
Well, I've only recently been smoking the sacred blend.
Dude.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
I didn't even tell these people about the sacred
blend don't don't yeah they're not ready for that give them something for next time true true true
that was a teaser right true true i mean if you read cannabis and spirituality you'll find it but
but yeah it's something i'm also gonna start doing it's called doggable and i'm gonna start
taking the books that i put out as like the reading list and then kind of cliff note breaking them down. That's pretty sick. Yeah. Some of the doggable dude. I actually like that because we go back
and forth on a lot of books. It'd be fun. So that'll be, people are constantly asking for
your bibliography, dude. Um, I'm in the, I'm going to compile it and then go book reread the
books that I put out the reread the books. I'd be like, read, especially the fiction books. I'll
just, you know, just read them. But the nonfiction books, I'm going the reread the books I'd be like read especially the fiction books I'll just you know just read them but the non-fiction books I'm gonna reread them take
notes and then be able to give people like a 30 minute kind of reduction and be like all right
here's kind of what it is if you want to get into it like an oral presentation sort of I talked to
I ran if I would I ran if I would I'm kidding I know sir I did feel that kind of way about him
like would he was like I like was like brought that concern like I just he's like what shut the
fuck up just do it it'll be awesome yeah yeah i mean it's because it's gonna be different it's
not the same thing i am gonna get i told wood i'm gonna gift him i was like well every like third
one i'm just gonna gift to your patreon and be like just tax bro take that yeah take that and
keep that yeah i'm trying to just produce way more content i gotta do that i gotta get like the
twitter page and the patreon thing going yeah yeah let's do it yeah. Yeah, let's do it. Get it ready,
bro.
Stop being gay.
You can do that.
Don't play that during Black History Month.
All right,
here we go.
We're out of here.
You guys,
dude,
Tim Butterly,
Sidney Gant.
Thank you so much.
What do you guys want to say?
Closing words,
take us out.
Dude,
listen to,
listen to,
huge dog response
to Dad Meat so far far if you haven't
listened yet check it out the whole point is that you know you're probably a fat fucking retard but
i want you to know that that's okay and we can work with that that's where i started hell yeah
episode one i'm a fat fucking retard actually no there is no episode one you have to start
on episode two because i'm a fat fucking retard. Oh, you deleted it.
It never.
We didn't have a mic on.
So you only have episode two.
We've got a mythical episode one out there.
Never to see the light of day because I'm a fat fucking retard.
Damn, that's like the first words in Genesis.
In the beginning, there was light.
In the beginning, dude.
I am a fat fucking retard.
I was a fat fucking gay dickhead.
And look where we're going to go with it.
Woo.
God damn.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
Sid the Kid.
Yeah, definitely.
I fucking love Dad Meat, so definitely check that out.
But yeah, thanks to all the people that have already come out and start checking out 2JackBros.
We got a pretty good dog response, too.
Which was crazy, because we didn't even mention it the whole episode until
the end of the episode. Dude, it was
fucking insane. Get a dog response.
It's like ridiculous.
So, yeah, you know,
it's me and my wife. We're being assholes
on there. It's
a lot of bro everything. Bro
science, bro philosophy, bro investigative
journalism. So we're
different than that because we, you know mean we're different than oral presentation because we
have so many different genres of research that we hit yeah your guys's shit is hilarious dude
yeah yeah your guys's dynamic is very fucking funny yeah yeah come check us out come check
us out so uh yeah but definitely thank you to everybody you know especially uh
But definitely thank you to everybody, you know, especially just everybody.
Just like just all the podcasts.
It's cool, man. I just love being a part of something that is positive.
But everybody is trying to help each other.
It's ridiculous.
Chat digital is tight, too, because it's not a money-wise corporation.
There's no financial ties.
It's just literally.
It's more of a philosophical corporation. Yeah, it's a millenn money wise corporate. There's no financial ties. It's just literally more of a philosophical corporation.
Yeah.
It's a millennial Falcon.
It's,
it's so future.
It's,
you know,
money is beneath it.
It's just kind of like,
you know,
obviously,
you know,
help us fucking do this shit,
I guess.
But it's like grease the wheels.
There's no,
there's none of that.
Like,
well,
this is mine and pay the pay.
It's just like,
bro,
here's a,
here's a collective dude.
Enjoy it.
Enjoy it.
It's held together by the love of seeing your dog succeed. A hundred percent. A hundred percent, bro. Look, the whole collective, dude. Enjoy it. It's held together by the love of seeing your dog succeed.
100%.
100%, bro.
Live the whole thing, dude.
This whole cycle.
Oh, goddamn.
Oh, also follow me on Twitch.
Twitch.tv slash Tim Butterly.
Fucking crushing serious games on there.
And the chat is fucking sick.
Hell yeah.
Following sumo wrestling.
Crushing video game cheeks.
That's all. Dude, I love Tim's Twitch. I do. I justo wrestling, crushing video game cheeks, that's all.
Dude, I love Tim's Twitch.
I do.
I just put it on
and just leave it on.
I go into little brother mode, dude.
I can watch people play video games
for like four hours, man.
I started for the chat now.
Yeah.
Now I'm just like,
I guess I'll play a fucking video game,
but the chat's fucking sick.
Didn't you have an Indian dude
who came and like
schooled you in the one game?
Yeah, dude, I was playing Bayonetta 2.
Turned out to be,
no, no, no,
I was playing God Hand for PlayStation turned out to be i don't know i was playing god hand for playstation 2 incredibly difficult game and uh when you're
playing a game on twitch like anyone that's looking for whatever game you're playing like
they can just see all the channels with it and i was the only one it's a playstation 2 game i was
the only one playing it so some guy in india was like i got vj same vj hops in the chat he was like
bro listen you're not good at this i was was like, I know. I need help.
And he broke it down for me and course corrected me.
And then for every session until I finished the game, like half of them, he hopped back in just to check in and be like, here's what you're doing wrong.
It was so fucking sick.
That's so.
And then when he would pop in, the chat would go bananas.
Oh, for sure.
Fucking St. Vijay.
God damn that rule.
I forgot all about that.
That's awesome.
That's pretty sick.
Yeah, I guess we're going to I'm going to get ambitious and do the fucking, what is it, Instagram?
I have to start an Instagram.
You're going to get on the internet.
So I'm going to do Instagram for Two Jack Bros.
It will probably be called Two Jack Bros.
You did a really funny thing on Twitter the other day.
I don't want to spoil it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm going to do a Two Jack Bros Twitter, too, and probably drive traffic.
But ask Sidney Gann on Twitter.
Come at me.
Do the goddamn thing.
Oh, yeah.
I know what you're talking about.
Yeah, that was on brand.
Yeah.
I love you guys.