Memory Lane with Kerry Godliman and Jen Brister - S02 E04: Rosie Jones

Episode Date: July 26, 2023

"You forgot several titles... Sex Goddess, National Treasure and People's Princess" Rosie takes Kerry and Jen on a tour of her amazing life! Photo 01 - Rosie being born Photo 02 - Christmas day 1993 Photo 03 - Rosie, Andrea and Gran Photo 04 - Mr Blobby fancy dress (FD) Photo 05 - That dress! PICS & MORE - https://www.instagram.com/memory_lane_podcast/ A Dot Dot Dot Production produced by Joel Porter Hosted by Jen Brister & Kerry Godliman Distributed by Keep It Light Media Sales and advertising enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hello, and welcome to Memory Lane. I'm Jen Brister and I'm Kerry Godleman. Each week we'll be taking a trip down Memory Lane with our very special guest as they bring in four photos from their lives to talk about. To check out the photos we'd be having a natter with them about, they're on the episode image and you can also see them a little bit more clearly

on our Instagram page so have a little look at Memory Lane podcast. Come on, we can all be nosy together. Sorry, that's my dog. She's always really vocal at the wrong... Don't say I forget you've got a dog. Do you know what? I did stop myself.

from saying that. I'm never going to say that again because I do know now that you've got a dog even though. No, in the same way that you can't bear to hear me whine about tech, I want you every time you hear or see my dog go, I always forget you've got a dog. Well, that's what I want now. Okay. So wait a second. I need to put that in context because I went around to Kerry's house. I basically had to kill some time in London. And I was arriving really early. That's flattering. That's flattering. I'm like a glorified bus stop. I absolutely wanted to spend time with my friend Kerry Godlimate

and I contacted her out of the blue and said, how can we make this happen? And how can we spend some quality time? I've got time to kill in London. Does your kettle work? It was like also mid-conversation, I went, sorry, I've got to go now. That is literally what happened. So anyway, I turned up at Kerry's, she made a coffee. we're sitting down, the dog turns up.

And I said the classic line, they always say, oh, I always forget you've got a dog. And Kerry rolls her eyes and went, yeah, I've had a dog for quite a long time, Jen. I said, oh, it's not been that long, has it? You went, yeah, nine years. And I went, has it been you've had a dog for nine years? And I haven't managed to keep that information in my head. And every time I go around your house, the dog's there.

And I go, oh, it's a dog there. Yes, she lives here. She lives here, Jen. She's our dog. Every time I go around your house, the dog's like, what a coincidence? She happens to call in when you call in. She just pops around when I pop around. I mean, in your defence, she's a very forgettable dog. She is not that charismatic.

She's not very charismatic, but it's not that she's forgettable. And in her defence, it's actually that you literally never talk about her. I don't think you've ever mentioned her. What am I going to say? What am I going to say? Oh, Molly just had an abortion. There's no gossip. It's not like I've got something to tell you about Molly.

Like, you won't believe what Molly. You won't believe Molly's updates. I love that the improv is nothing. She just shits. She's a shitting ornament. The improv. It got simple. You went straight to abortion.

I can't think what else. There was nothing else in between. The dog took shit in my living room. But you've gone, no. The dogs had an abortion. Because I went for top tier gossip. I don't know what else to gossip is. What's gossip?

Give me an example of gossip. I can't. I've actually refused to do any gossip. I got stung by gossip a couple of weeks ago. And in fact, you were there. Oh, really? No. Oh, yes.

Yes. Absolutely. We're not. Gossips out now. It turned out everything you said was bollocks. It was like AI gossip. I literally prefaced it with gossip. I said, this is gossip.

And you went, it's not. I know, but it needs to sound feasible. And you said, oh, this isn't true. And I went, it probably isn't true. I'm just saying. this is gossip. A gossip's gossip, Kerry, as I said to you. No, no, no, absolutely not.

I dispute that. Gossip has got to be rooted in some authentic real world truth because if it's batshit like yours was, or like, it didn't qualify. It was like the, what was that old magazine where it said, alien, pregnant alien. It was like that. It was like AI gossip.

Wait a second. It wasn't AI gossip. And in fact, it was, it was more. realistic than my dogs had an abortion okay so as far as gossip that was bad I was I was improvising as far as gossip goes it's a workshop anyway look as I said before I don't I start about gossip we've managed to hear a lot of flipping islands of conversation I didn't even finish the first one which was about vertigo oh the vertigo yes just just for closure just explain to anyone who doesn't know what vertigo because they might just think it's that like when you have to

climb up tall buildings. Well, I suppose it is like that, you know, people that have theirs to go, but you don't have to climb up. You don't have to be up building, you just have to stand up. What about you? How's your week being? Oh, it's chaos here. It just feels like every, all the wheels are falling off.

Well, my daughter finished school weeks ago. She finished her GCSE, so she's having one of those summers, year 11 summers, where they just do nothing. For, like, three months of just getting up lay, you know, just having a coffee. Don't kids get jobs? anymore. I remember I was like, you've got to get a job. That was, that was the deal. I know, I said that to her, you've got to get a job. She's like, whatever. Did she do it with that vocal fry? Whatever. Whatever. Yeah, maybe she didn't do it like that,

but I'm projecting a lot of that on her. So she's been off for ages and then my son, he's about to break up, I think, like in the next couple of days. So it's all that end of term chaos. When do your boys break up? Same. Same. They're going to break up at the end of this week. And it's all kind of like, you know, school clubs and where are we going to stick them? Where are we going to stick them for a week or two?

Certificates. They're coming back with various certificates. I'm like, lovely, stick it on the fridge. Right. What's it? Honestly, at one point, our kids were getting certificates for nice walking, nice breathing. Oh. Love the way you blew your nose.

Used to handkerchief. I was like, these certificates are beginning to feel like they don't mean anything. Can we have something that actually? They're patronising. They start to get back. patronising, if I'm honest. Okay, right. So who is our guest this week?

Our guest this week is the absolutely fantabulous, hilarious, ridiculous, author. And loves a bit of gossip. Comedian, author, author, pervert, and all round.

Campaigner. All round. All round. All round. Good gal. It's Rosie Jones. Yeah, very God. several titles.

Oh, what else? Sex goddess. Sex goddess, yeah, I did forget that one. You meant that when you said burnt it? I meant it when I said purpose. National treasure. National treasure, right. And...

You can't say it. That's the point. That's the point of a national treasure. Every other national treasure is like, oh, I couldn't possibly say it. You're like, you've got it on your fucking CV. Come on. You.

And you did. And you did forget people's princess. Oh, people's princess. Yeah, that is a classic one. And that has come up a few times. I haven't heard that in, so that you've added that to the point of pointed Odyssey. Oh, yeah.

You say it in a quite a threatening way. It's quite terrifying. Because it's tampering you one. You know what happened in the last one? Well, it's been quite a while. It's all timing, in it, mate. It's all to do with timing. I think you're right, we are ready for a new one.

Let's get on to our photographs, what you're here to talk about. You've sent some really gorgeous pictures, Rosie. Now, just before we get into the specifics, do you have easy access to your photos? Did you know which ones you wanted and where they were? Yeah, I do. So, I think being on telly doing... a few bits and bobs, I've actually bothered my mum a lot because she has all my child to

photos. So you've used them before? Yeah, in the chest in her living room and every now and then I'll ring her up and be like, Andrea! And they don't have a full. And they don't have photo on me looking very cute on Christmas now she goes to the chest I love that you call your mom Andrea and only when I want something and she responds to that

yeah yeah wow she just sit on the end of the phone waiting for these instructions yeah you know what sometimes I ring and she's out with her friends or out shopping and I get so angry. She's back to the People's Princess then. You're like, I think you're one of the People's Princesses on the end of the phone. I know.

You're such a child, absolutely belligerent that your mum's got alive. How dare you? Where the fuck is Andrea? Andrea! I have taken time. I want my busy life. To make demands on home. To ring home.

And she has an absolute cheek. To live her own life. Absolutely. I'm thinking of an line in this scenario. Or is she screaming you. She's screaming her. She's out with her, mate. She's off.

What food I need? My mum or my dad, I'll ring my mum's mob. Yes, I think that goes on in a lot of families. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't think dads have mobiles, do they? But you know what? I get it in return. So my first many name drops of the day.

Let's reckon at Simon. What? Yeah. Yeah. Look at your face. Unbelievable. Simon Lebon, only relevant to Kerry. Everyone else forgot who Simon Lebon is. No, Kerry's on it.

I don't know. I remember the Lebonne. I don't know. I remember the LeBond. Oh my God. He was so hot 30 years ago. Oh, good luck in Byn. She's still with Yasmin, Lebon.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, where did you meet him? Oh, there one show. Oh, right. It wasn't like in, you know, Liddle. No. It was on a show. So we got chatting and obviously my mom was a massive fan of Geran, J-Ran, and they're going on top.

So Simon said, oh, don't worry, I'll give you two backstage. Oh wow, that's cool. I rang my mom and said, Oh my God, great news. Met Simon LeBotton is giving us two backstage VIP passes. First thing she said to me was, oh, can you bring him up and get another?

I wanted to bring my friend Paulette. You're like, Pullet who? She's not invited. Did she go back? Oh my God, that takes some cheek. But I had to because you had already told Paulette. Yeah, but Paulette would understand. I mean, Paulette, it's not about you.

Colette wants to come. But I know so... So what did Le Bonn say, yes? The Bonn, hero of the nation, said, tell you what, I'll give you four tickets. Wow, he doubled. Double down.

He can bring a friend. He's going to sing Wild Boys for Paulette, and he's going to do his requests. I can't wait. So let's start with your first picture. Oh, this is so cute. It's so cute. It's adorable, Jones.

It really is. This is probably the only photo I've ever seen of you where I've thought, I want to give you a hug. So have you just been born? Have you literally just been born in this picture? Literally. I think that I was born at 10 a.m. And I think that is fresh.

out of the oven. Straight out the oven. And that's your dad, I take it. Your dad looks so happy. Rob. Rob. Rob Jones. Rob looks so, he looks like just like the quintessential picture

of a new dad holding his daughter. It's gorgeous. I mean, I'll let you choose why we go from me because I could carry on with the loss.

Oh. characteristically on me, I could be quite emotional. Let's go with that. Let's go emotional. Come on. So, I chose that photo because my birth, spoil the video, was very traumatic. And I got several people.

because I didn't breathe for 17 minutes. So coming out, my shoulder got stuck, which meant I had a lack of oxygen to their brain. So the doctors pulled me out, and of course it was the most of the most of the doctors. most traumatic for my mum. But after that, me, the doctors and my dad went to another room while the doctors tried to resuscitate me.

And I can't even begin to imagine what that's was like for him age 26 to be amongst all this chaos and think we might lose her right now. So his smile on her face looking at his baby is alive. That is quite a small one. That is just something. And you're looking up at him almost. Yeah. Because any other situation,

like you rightly said, you were like, oh, cute, just in every day new dad with her baby. But what they're for. What could he be through? You know, it must have been, like, unthinkable stress and anxiety and fear.

Yeah. So then to have that photograph of him with just the biggest, broadest smile because he has his daughter and his arms. So lush. And also he didn't just have a daughter. He had me. Well, he didn't know he had the people's princess, didn't he, Jones? The national treasure.

There's the babies and then the fucking babies. So did you have legend status right from the get-go? Oh, 100%. And is that partly because of that birth story? Yeah, yeah. Having that start in life makes you fearless. I feel like genetic wise have figured with their confidence and their humour. So I've always had that but I think their fearlessness came from a coping mechanism,

just being aware that people stared at me wherever I want. I mean, that's hard enough anyway, isn't it? Like, whatever age you are, but I imagine during adolescence that it's just a nightmare. Because you're already so self-conscious about yourself, about your body. Also, a spoiler, being a lesbian as well, you're already like, especially if you're not out. It's getting older, realizing I'm gay. It's just, if anything made me go even more restaurant, I think you've, a good example,

it's coming here today, we're in a very cool, so. building and just walk back sleutuoso people that don't know and that on purpose I'll come and shouting going whee, hello shit, legend! Because I knew that even if it's quiet,

even if I fash, don't really say anything. People will look up from their work because I walk differently and talk differently. So I think if I give them a reason to look, it's on my terms. Yeah, and you own it. And also it's completely on brand now.

Oh, it's still really, I mean, your energy will get depleted. At some point, people will be like, where's, why isn't Rosie shouting? You'll be like, I cannot be asked. Wait, you'll be tired. You'll be pressing up your arms waist tight. It ends there, mate.

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How old are you in it? Is that Walkman? It's sweet. So cute. So cute. So, cute. So, you're sitting in a little rocking chair, facing away from the camera with a weird sort of teat napkin on your head.

And it's clearly Christmas, because the Christmas tree is a big giveaway. And you look a bit like you're sulking, but you're probably listening to something. What are you listening to? Dran, Dran. Yeah. So I chose it.

Because I don't know why but it's my favourite photo on me ever. Is it? Yeah. You can't see your face. It's actually not one of my favourites. Yeah. It's the opposite of what you were just talking about, the exhibitionism. It's a private moment.

Yeah. And I think that's why you've chosen it. I think it's a sader me. I probably don't show a lot on telly any comedy. But also, I think it's hilarious, because I'm wearing a nuisance. Oh, that's what it is. Basically, I know what's happened.

That Christmas, I go. three big presents right and they are a nurse's outfit you put it straight on yeah wearing it yeah and they rock in chair there we go and you're having all the same time living your best life that's a Christmas dream that is big and I love how and your No, my mum would have gone, Rosie! Rosie, smile and I'm basically going, no. No, I'm listening to Smurts to Go Pop.

I'm getting on with my fucking life. Yeah, and I'm going to be on a nursing shift in a minute and I'm going to have a little rocking me rocking chair before I crack up. Yeah. That's great. It's a really cute picture. It's so cute. And you do look, even from behind, we can't see a face,

but you do look extremely content. Yeah. It's interesting. This is a bit of a detour, but I don't think I'm Uber famous. It's only a matter of time, Jones. Give it. Give it to you. Yeah. I'm getting there.

But because of our way, talk, if I'm in a pub and a cafe and you hear my voice, you absolutely know it's me. I remember being in a cafe next to you'd love one time. And me and my mom, even Jude Law, spent the entire time going. Is it it? No. Yeah. No.

Yeah, it is. No. But if you know me, there's no hesitation. Yes. You like that's Rosie Jones. I've had somebody, and I never get noticed, just to be very clear ever. But I wear headphones all the time.

And one of the very few times I was remembered somebody tapped me on the shoulder. You know when you're like in your own world listening to a podcast, you're really enjoying it, you're looking out the window, the train, you just, and then someone taps you. So you immediately go oh, something's gone wrong here. You just want to tell I really like your stand-up.

I think you're really funny. And I was like, but immediately irritated me. I was like, I'm... This is why people don't come up to you, Jen. I'm listening to my podcast. You go, oh, fuck off. I didn't. I want you to know. I was like, oh, thank you so much.

That's really nice of you. That woman that did come up to you at Glastonbury and said that she was doing a course at uni and they studied Jen's stand-up set. It was on a curriculum. Do you remember that? Yeah, that was mad. That was the only time I got noticed in Glastonbury.

But as people, for something like... I'm studying you in my course. I was like, what? Yeah, that isn't like, I love you, let's have a photo. That's, I'm studying you. That's the level of like, content you're putting up. It's on curriculum.

I'll tell you what, when you can do impressions of your mother as well as I can? It's the next one with the... Is that your mum and who's that? My nana. Your mum, your lovely nana and you and I have to say that this is such a beautiful picture of all three of you.

Yeah. It's got a really strong late 80s, early 90s vibe. Oh yeah. The hair. Your mother's hair, your land's hair. Your land's hair. is fantastic.

There's like some strong poems going on there. And I wanted to include it because I thought it was only fair after talking about my dad. But my mum and my nana just a woman in my life. I've been so amazing and so strong.

Like I said, I am who I am because of them. Wow. They, I mean, this is such a strong photograph. And, you know, well, firstly the hair, because I used to work in hairdressers on a Saturday and when we'd come in for these bloodlines. I mean, that, like, especially, like, the one that you're, basically for both your mum and your Nana there,

like your mum's, it's like, that was the haircut that everyone wanted. Yeah. That was the dream. My argument I love my mum but she had that haircut for way too long she had that

Not many people can pull a permed fringe off I was just going to say I mean like the permed fringe is a strong look She had that till my brother was born so that was 1995 Oh, okay.

Yeah, maybe. We'd all moved on to an Aniston cut by then, but she was still rocking ladies. No, yes. And what do your nan and mum make of you and what you do and your success? Oh, my nana wants me to swear less. Okay.

Literally. Is that the main bit of feedback? Yeah, yeah. It was my birthday last year. and I went home and my nana came to our house and I opened the door and I was ready for her to say, happy birthday. And the first thing she said was, Rosie, why do you need to swear that much on television? talk through why you do need to swear that much,

because it's fun and you are really good at you. Do you remember when we did Mot the Week? Yes. And everyone was like, is you going to, are we going to get cut out? It didn't. They kept it in. Basically, that's my favourite thing I've ever said on telly.

It was quite a moment. Because it was. What was it? Give me the context. I think you can't say on the morning show. And I went up and went, morning, cunt. I never went. It was great.

Yeah, I recently did live at the Apollo, and my granddad, I doubt like when you talk about what is it living and then they want won't won't. I got the word one king. I do you think your granddad doesn't know that one. That's a joke and say, but really swearing aside. They're both so proud.

on me and every time my nana goes anywhere, whoever she bumps into, she'll go, have you heard what is a celebrity now? She'll tell everyone. Which does defeat the point of being a celebrity if you have to be, if you need your nan to tell everyone. Yeah, but luckily she told everyone in the Yorkshire region. We've got out now beyond Yorkshire, but you're a celebrity. I think it's fair to say it's out there.

It's totally out there. You need to get your nan out there. Yeah, yeah. Did you ever see me on the side of a bus? I have seen you on the side of a bus. It happened like that. Oh, is that for Channel 4? Yeah.

One time my nanook saw me on the side got excited so got on the bus and said to the driver my granddaughter my granddaughter is on your bus and he didn't

he thought you were on the bus not on the bus My granddad used to follow buses. Maybe it's a northern thing. Whenever he came on a day trip to London, my mum would go, well, how are we going to get to, you know, my Aunt Leal's here? I don't know.

I'll follow that bus. Follow a bus. Well, it's going in a plumbstead. We're going to Charleston. We'll see you so that. Now, Rosie, do you want to talk us through this photo? And tell us what it is a picture of? Again, it's a cracker.

I mean, this is quite something. The word to God, it's me. We have no way of knowing. We have to trust you. It's me. So it's me in an inflatable Mr. Blobby costume. Right.

So it's not the real Mr. Blobby. It's you. No. Alas, it is people's Princess Rosie Jones dressed as an inflatable blobby Why?

So I can't it for several different reasons One it sums up my first love with kids No

No fancy dress You're a fancy dress. Yeah, clearly this is a theme. I have you challenged me to a bit of FD. I will. See, because Jen is not a believer.

No, I love it. She said she willfully turn up to a fancy dress party just in a jeans and t-shirt. No. Yeah. No. You can't. Absolutely can. You can't.

You can't. He can't. He's having his fancy dress parties. Everyone, but they're not inviting you. Why did you choose Mr. Blobby? So that was at uni. That was from the 21st birthday. So by then, I'd have three years of epic fancy dress.

Until that point, my PSD, with six stones, was we went on the Lady Gaga night. Because it was when Gaga had just blown up. And do you remember her outfit where she wore nothing? I think this one's before me. Pre-meat. Pre-meat. Pre-meat. She won't open apart from police tape.

Oh, yeah. I went out in Hodgisville Town. In that house. What? You mean naked apart from police tape? Yeah. And why did you not offer us that picture? And you often have missed a blobby instead.

Because that was not pretty. Okay. I'd like to see it. I bet you would. So your whole uni days was dominated by planning fancy dress outfits. Like every Saturday. What? Oh my God.

I feel stressed. No. Where did you go to uni? Did you get a degree? Or was it just dressing up for three years? What was your degree in? Fancy D. You get a BA and FD?

You wanted to explain your Mr. Bobby. Can I tell you about my 21st night out? Was it wild? In Huddersfield. Yeah. Strap in. Like I said, about three hours of big time FD. Yeah.

I'd already been out naked. You've done gargaw? Yeah, so I had to go big. Yeah. Be it go big or go home, isn't it? Yeah. And I never go home. That is a fact.

Sometimes I get made to go home. I've taken you over a couple of times. So, because I'm born in 1990. All right, don't sure. We did... We had terms like your mum in, I was 35 in 1999. We did the 90s. What is it?

The theme. So we are you. I had a few brownies. Brownies have been going well outside the decade of the 90s. Well, it felt quite. I was a brownie in the States. I love that you think that's the 90s. Because your mates were brownies in the 90s.

But anyway, keep going. And no. The thing's falling apart already. So much. It's not. It's just dress up, in it's just dress up, in it. Just dress up. Does that dress up with one?

No, I look great. I spent $200 on this blobby outfit. See, a purist would have a bit of pushback with that because sometimes FD means make your own. Don't go to a shop and bailout. No, actually, actually, I don't chuck money at the situation. Ferry, I got, Kerry, I got, Kerry. jeans and a T-shirt.

You're defending it all for. You're not even into it. I'm like, look, I'm just defending every aspects of FD. One of you. jeans and a t-shirt, the other richest buy it. You've got as an angry lesbian, Jane. What is my God? Guys, it's always on brand.

I told you that. I've got a brand I've got to keep up. I can't suddenly look like I'm enjoying myself. You could do a Jones and come as Mr. Blobby next time you get an invitation. All right. On that thing, just really quickly, somebody forwarded me. She does a lot of buying and selling gear. Anyway, it doesn't matter.

She said me that sounds really dodgy. It probably is. Gear. She's a good. You know, tights and that sort of thing. Blankets. DVDs. A lot of FD. She's got a lot of FD in the back of the cup.

You want some FD, I've got Mr Blobby and Godgo in the back of the car. Well, this is it. She sent me this link to an original Mr. Blobby outfit. It was a spare outfit. How much? Guess. Not 200 quid because she was done. No.

How much? Go up. 400? More. 8. More. What? 64 grand.

No. No. I'm not joking. That's what it's on for. I'll show you the least one. But it was the real one. Yes, but it was never used. It was a spare one.

But it's not made from this sort of cheap crap. Why is you send you that? You said a possible birthday present for me. I was like, sure, invest. What? Why would she buy that for you? Did she love you? Kerry, it was a joke.

It was sent to me as a joke. I was like, I'm not genuinely going to spend $64,000. Hello, am I in the room with two comedians? because I'm starting to feel like I'm with like two manners. It's really hard because sometimes we're doing sincere boignant bits and they've been pissing about. Always not always to see. And I'm not very good.

Always a sweet about. Well, you did smash that outfit. Did you get, did you throw up in it, Rose? Well, this is the thing. They were sick in there by the end of that. Because it was so much money. It was inflatable. I couldn't get out of it.

Oh no. What about if you want to win? You can't. What do you mean? You can't not piss. So, wait, pit. I love how your first can say was in pets.

100% will be late. I'd like to introduce you to my pelvic floor. It's given up. My first... First concern was how do I get drunk? Oh, you couldn't get liquid in. Yeah. No wonder you didn't piss.

You couldn't drink anything. Yeah. So what are... Oh, there was an end in the mouth. Oh. No. I can't even believe my... Well, this is ridiculous.

Because it's fucking inflatable carrots. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I get it. I get it. Yeah, we keep up. This is a health and safe for nightmare. So what I had.

to do I drank a bottle of vodka before I got in it at home and then I went out. Pissed. And I thought this would be brilliant because everyone will think it's a legit Mr. Robby. and I got into the club and Hudders failed in such a small town. Everyone was either like, oh, have you seen Rosie in the Bobby outfit? Or I ever heard a guy going,

why is Mr. Bobby got cerebral? That is a great picture So this is in my green tracks at the comedy award And I chose it as in my last one Because I think it sums up where I am right now I got my hands over my head I am thrilled.

This is pure joy this picture. It's almost like I'm at a point now with my life and my sexuality that I just wear what I've fucking want

and if I want to wear the dress great but if I want to wear to do it. that don't do reason boots. I will and it's the fact that sometimes I use my body, I use what I wear to say something about me in comedy. But at the end of a day,

I just wear what I fucking. worn. Well that's quite an achievement because yeah I agree. Independently of sexuality or all you know it is quite hard especially as you get older as well with women to go I don't know who I don't know what I want to present and clothes you know the fashion business is such a kind of you know dictate and sometimes you kind of go well I don't want you to tell me how I should dress and women in comedy I can remember doing an article

when I first started out about what women wear in comedy and there's a tradition of like there's glam you know that kind of American style like Joan Rivers, the real kind of Las Vegas glam. And then, you know, often when women comics start out, they're like, well, don't look at me, listen to me. So they kind of downplay what they're wearing. And then when you get on telly and like in this photo of you,

you're at an award ceremony. So there's an expectation to, you know, really make a statement or consider how you look. And it's sometimes really hard to, you know. So you, I mean, did you have a stylist help you with that? Yeah, yeah. I went to her and she. had a long way or not different outfits and she got the green one out. And I'm not

shameful on my body but I'm aware that I got a belly and matches. So she got the green So she got the green dress and I went absolutely not. Really? No, no, no. It'll make me look like a marble and she knew me enough to be like, okay. Right. If you don't like it, fine, but try it on.

And I was like, I know, yeah, but I don't know. And now I went to look and I put it on and I went for. And then you got, the voice said, People's Princess. Yeah. And a People's Princess wears a Disney dress. That is a Disney dress.

Yeah. Absolutely. And also, I mean, I didn't know what it to say. this because it's out banging my own horn but what I loved you about it was a day after on on all that like I don't want to say silly websites but you know all the fashion blocks Yeah. Everyone was out where what roses wearing, blah, blah, blah, blah.

If you want roses look, go here. Oh, really? That's great. It felt really small. Yeah, but it was a first time that. At no point in those articles. did they mention my disability and it felt huge. I was like, oh my God, imagine it when I was 15 to tell my little self

that one day people would be going, oh, don't know, doesn't those things look amazing without having a caveat of dot dot dot for the disabled person the judge looked fucking great

and that felt powerful absolutely it is powerful I mean when I saw you I just I thought he looked incredible I remember when you sent me that picture. He was like, you've got to see Rosie. Wow. You just looked.

He looked amazing. Yeah, never. Thank you. This is what can happen when you make an effort. That's the only compliment of the day. This is what can happen when people make an effort? Look at me. What am I wearing? This is a commitment to FD that you need to climb on board with. No, I can't do it. I won't do it.

Rosie, that's all of your photos, but we still have one last question. to ask you and that is and we're going pure nostalgia here what track would you pick of all the songs out there and why what what what sort of to go with one of those pictures yeah yeah oh what does it conjure so i gave you my pictures and immediately i felt annoyed at myself because they're nowhere in the protest, have they got my brother. Right. And my brother's amazing.

Little old is five years younger than me. It's the funniest person in my family. So for many reasons, a change. a baby bird, you're gorgeous. I think it was out in 1990. Because you're gorgeous. I'll do anything for you. And that's about as much as we can include a podcast.

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We're not allowed to sing it. But that's a great song. Because it reminds me of my childhood, to my mum and dad, but also for ages, that was the only song that got my brother smiling. Really?

He just lit him up. So when I hear that song, I think about, first I love and Ollie, but then just growing up in this amazing loving family. Oh, that's so lovely, Rosie. You're going to make me bloody crap. Rosie Jones, it's been so lovely to have you on. It really has.

And it's always a delight to see your head. I love you, both. We love you. We love you. Can you edit that bit out, actually, because I don't want that on the record. No. Good bit. That'll be in the trailer.

I need a shamarin pen. A lovely chin wag with Jones, didn't we? And then I went out and got pissed with her afterwards. It was really nice. Did you? Yeah. Why didn't you invite me? You were invited.

Was I? Yeah, you're not, you've always got shit to do, Kerry Godderman. Yeah. Oh, was it fun? She's a liability pissed, isn't she? Oh, yeah, but so am I. So it's fun. But she didn't push any.

one over or anything like that. She's, or does she, she manages to, what's that thing with Nish? She always manages to fall down and blame it. She's, she does find herself on the floor a lot with Nish Kuma. Because he's, he's, you know, he doesn't like disabled people as it turns out. Yeah, no, he's really. Spread the gossip. That's the word.

No, we had a lovely time and we went to Soho house and we had several cocktails. And it was, fantastic. Ah, yeah, it was lovely. Anyway, um, uh, Did you just cut out? I completely ran out of steam just straight after that. You've got a lot on. And we've talked about your vertigo and your travels and my dog.

I can't think what else there is to say this week. There's absolutely nothing enough to say. And in fact, I can't talk to you any longer. We've already talked about the fact that I've got three anecdotes and I've told them all. Hang on. Now you can hear my husband just laughing in the background. Oh, that's great. Ben just laughed just at the right time.

That was almost like perfect. like canned laughter. Well, anyway, you go and have a lovely week. I'm going to have a lie down, Kerry, because I've still got vertigo. And I've got to go to Amsterdam. And don't worry, I won't be dead to doing any brownies or... Wacky-backy? I tell you who likes a bit of wacky-backy, my dog, she's a right old druggie.

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