Memory Lane with Kerry Godliman and Jen Brister - S02 E12: Josh Jones

Episode Date: September 20, 2023

"I personally think I was the cutest baby that has ever lived" Josh shares some BRILLIANT photos and stories. His baby photo is soooo cute! Photo 01 - Baby photo Photo 02 - Gangsta photo Photo 03 - Suranne Jones photo Photo 04 - Holiday photo PICS & MORE - https://www.instagram.com/memory_lane_podcast/ For tickets for Josh’s Gobsmacked tour please go to: www.offthekerb.com A Dot Dot Dot Production produced by Joel Porter Hosted by Jen Brister & Kerry Godliman Distributed by Keep It Light Media Sales and advertising enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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To check out the photos we'd be having a natter with them about, They're on the episode image and you can also see them a little bit more clearly on our Instagram page. So have a little look at Memory Lane podcast. Come on, we can all be nosy together. We saw each other last night, Joe. I did a gig with Jen, a charity gig, which, you know, I think it's brilliant you did that gig. And you're an ambassador for the charity and that's wonderful. But fucking hell, you are very generous with your time to do that on your arguably night off.

do you know what because you told me off in the summer about not taking things out I don't think I told you off I think it was meant in the spirit of friendship no no totally meant in the spirit of friendship but sometimes it's done in a tone that makes you feel like

oh it can be quite aggressive it's a little bit like because if people don't do what I say I get direct well you did you sort of we talked about this before Jen and okay I'm going to say to you one more time and that's why I thought

oh she might be turning me off but in the spirit and I have been channeling you and I have been saying no to things and I have been taking things out and I think I didn't do that and then I went a bit Molly, chill and then I went a bit bananas in the summer

where I was like so tired and I was like I can't let myself do that again. That's not going to happen again. Don't do that. Don't do that. I'm worth more than that Kerry. Yes and then you deplete its diminishing returns because you deplete the things that you do do do. You come with less energy to what you do.

do do do and that's the same do do do yeah I'm enjoying you you said do do do almost three times you said do do do do two and a half times I actually stopped listening to what you were saying because I just heard do-d-d-d-d-cary saying do-do Kerry's saying do-do anyway also the other thing I wanted to say on the podcast was how much love your trousers were getting

oh I love your trousers weren't they though yeah they were really I might go back to that shop and ask for sort of like a discount because because I'm going to start doing promotional work for them just with those trousers. Well, the thing that you're not getting

and this is where social media will help you out, Kerry. This is what other people are doing but you're not doing this. No, no. You take an outfit that you like and then you just put up a post where you're pretending to talk about something

but what you're actually doing is showing everybody your outfit. Yeah, like hashtag feeling blessed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how funny. You know, hashtag, women hashtag menopause hashtag canals

hashtag menopause hashtag candles get it got it got it yeah you got it and then it's just a picture of you in these wonderful trousers which by the way absolutely that colour what would we call that Cobalt Cobalt blue Cobalt blue Cobalt blue

Cobalt blue well I genuinely I immediately coveted your trousers in fact I don't think I spoke to you straight away I was like just like your trousers I got a lot of compliments last night for those trousers. So what you do, okay, so you've got the picture of you up on Instagram and then you just happen to mention your outfit at the bottom.

Just like it's in a casual way. You're not like saying I bought these trousers from. I'm not an influencer. You're not an influencer because you're still doing hashtag menopause, hashtag candles. Yes. And then that shop goes, oh, Kerry Godleman, the actor, comedian who is on television. Maybe we could get to wear a few more of our clothes. Do you see what I've done?

I do, I've had this chat with other people and it doesn't work for me. And I've gone in these shops and I've gone, oh, this is how I approach it. Let's roll play it. I go in, and I go to pay for my outfit. And I, like, and then while I'm paying, I go. Can I, can I, can I, I, I've got to say, you've got to hand me the trousers. Okay, I'm handing you the trousers. Oh, you're having you, thank you.

You've got these on a discount actually. No, hang on, you fuck the rollout. 25% off. Why? Yeah, I know, because you've come at it with already the discount. You haven't heard my. I'm going to do my bitch. No, you're not going to get a discount.

Oh, right, I see what you've done that. This is what I do. So I go in there and I'm friendly. I'm not going to say anything. I'm friendly and I build up a rapport. So just assume we've got that. All right. And then I go,

Hey, I'm a comedian actually. I'll probably wear these for a gig or maybe sometimes I'm on telly. I might even wear them on telly. I'll probably wear them on telly. Is there any discount available for me wearing them on telly? And they go, no.

And then I pay for the trousers. and then I leave the shop. Yeah, because you've misunderstood. You've absolutely completely misunderstood how this works. Okay. I see that now. Once you're at the counter with the trousers, they know you want the trousers.

So they're not going to say to you, oh, yeah, well, what, you want them for nothing? That's not how the trousers situation. What happens is, is that you've already got the trousers. Yeah. You've invested some money in these trousers. I've got them. Right.

But in order to signal to that store in, We're not going to mention what part of London East Dulwich. That you like these trousers. Yeah. That's when you put up the post with the candles and the menopause. I'm going to do that. Try it. I'm going to do it.

And then next time I'm in there, I go, did you see that? Because I am friendly with that woman. I am friendly. You should be. Yeah. And then I might say, hey, going forward, can we get some activity? Do you know how you could really shortcut this? Go on.

Sign poster to this particular episode in Tennessee. to listen to the first five minutes. Oh, are you going to use this, Joel? Because this is... Oh, this is going in. I mean, there is... I mean, I don't know if your friends and family that don't do what we do think this,

but for some reason, they think that we get free shit. Like, my brother seems to think I shouldn't be paying for holidays or cars. What? He's like, surely you just get free shit. Holidays and cut. He's like, you're not thinking about this, kill.

You need to be strategising. You should be getting free holidays. And I don't know why you pay. for that car. I'm like, what planet are you on that you think I get given a car? I mean, does he think

we're like the Kardashians? We are two jobbing comics. Who? Once you've been on telly, he definitely thinks once you've got, gone viral, he doesn't know why you're paying for it. He doesn't even know why you're walking.

He won't know why you're winning that case around. He'll be like, why hasn't she got someone driving her? Well, I mean, To be fair, that is a question that I'm beginning to ask myself, actually. Like, why haven't I got someone driving me? When you know other comics have got someone driving me. Like, everybody else, I'm like, have you got someone driving you?

They're like, yeah, yeah. Oh, like, because it's really tiring being on tour. Yeah, as you've just described. Turns out it's a lot harder when you're having to get trains and buses. But anyway, next tour. Next tour, Kerry, it's going to be all about the coach. In fact, it's going to be about the coaches. it's going to be about the purple blue trousers.

It's going to be sponsored. By that point, this podcast will be on Spotify and we'll be on a six-figure salary. And my brother will be right. We won't have to pay for holidays. Cars. We won't have to pay. No, cars. We'll have a helicopter each.

We won't even have to pay for our children. Someone else will be doing that for us. Oh, yeah. It'd be easy. They'll be giving them like, they'll be giving them the pocket money on our behalf. Sponsored by Spotify's put up the pocket money kids. I will look back on the.

Those cobalt trousers with like total nostalgia. Do you remember it all started on the back of those trousers? Do you remember when I paid actual money for those trousers? What was I thinking? That was bad. But anyway, it has spawned this incredible success. Yeah. Anyway, back to reality. Who are we talking to today?

We're talking to Josh Jones today. And I love him. He's a wonderful comic. And he and I not that long ago and God knows when it will go out. But we did the weakest link together. It's right. It's so tense. It's really tense. I really enjoyed it. I didn't expect to enjoy it as much as I did. Yes, well, we can tell how far you got in the show by the level of enjoyment that you are expressing.

No, not necessarily. No, not necessarily because I went, I've done, what's the other one where you get knocked off? Pointless? Yeah, I've done that a few times with varying degrees of success. Have won on occasion, but I have also been first off. Have you ever done that one? Yeah, I've only did it once. And I was lost, but we didn't win. Okay. We were the final two. Yeah, there's dignity in that.

I went off, my feet didn't touch the ground. Me and Paul Chowdry were through that door and out again. Pretty quick. Well, I also did the weakest link and I'll leave it there. Okay. Okay, well, we can. We can talk about that as and when. Anyway, Josh was great.

and he's a very, very funny. Oh, he's a brilliant, really, really funny stand-up comedian. He's absolutely fantastic. I believe he's on tour at the moment, so check out his website to find out about what dates if he's in a town near you, and if he is, we urge you to go and see him. But for now, this is Kerry and I chatting to Josh Jones.

Hello. Thank you for coming. Thanks for having me. And sharing your photographs for us. Yeah, I was quite excited. I think the question. good ones so I like to show them off. Were they easy for you to access?

When we said we want photos, you were like, I know which photos. The first one I knew which, the first one I knew what would be. That is glorious. Yeah. I mean, we'll come to your photos in a minute, but that first one we all went. Was it already in your phone ready to go? Yeah, well, it's like, or is it your show post. It's the one whenever it's like my birthday, my brother will post that of me.

Or it's like the best photo of me. Right. Well, all my baby photos look like that. I was going to say that's not the best photo of you. Josh because that was when you were like a year old. Yeah. And I've never got better. But I do think I will,

I personally think I was the cutest baby that's ever lived. I think you might be up there among the cutest babies. Because I honestly don't think you're far off. I could eat you. Yeah. It's, you're so cute. It's great, isn't it? It's a brilliant photograph.

Your head is a perfect circle. I know. And last year for my poster, I really tried to get the, my head is the old. But I think it was in Josh Jones, but I think that it was just a bit confusing. It didn't make much sense. Do you want to just have your little baby head?

What hell is that ever? Yeah. Because people don't know that it's me. Oh, I think they'd work it out. If that's in the O of Josh. Yeah, maybe. And they go, yeah, that's him. Honestly, you have got, I think you've got like four cheeks.

Yeah. You've got two chins. You've got a face. It's honestly, the dude. gorgeous, most gorgeous face. You just want to squeeze it. Give it a cuddle. My mum said I was the easiest baby because I used to just eat.

And whenever I was tired, she put a dishcloth over my pram and I'd go straight to sleep. I thought you were going to say over your head. I just don't know. Yeah, no. Just over your head. No, but yes. It just goes off. I just at and slept.

You're not so happy. Yeah. Where's this picture been taken? He's at my grand's house and those cupboards are still there. Oh, really? Yeah. I love that. Where should you go to your nan's house?

Everything's the same. Yeah. It's brilliant. But that's a real modern thing, isn't it, just to kind of get new thing. Like, Nans are like, well, it works. Why would I get it? My mum was like that, because I'm not replacing it. It still works.

Come on. My grand got a new kitchen two years ago. And she's 91. And she was like begging my granddad, like, we need a new kitchen because they've had it for ages. And my granddad was like, we're going to be dead soon. There's no, there's no point. He sounds like my kind of guy. Yeah.

And she was like, please just let me get a new kitchen. So she's got a new kitchen and she's obsessed with it. Oh, really? But she's also stopped cooking. So, yeah. Yeah, because she's got a new kitchen. She doesn't want to mess up. She used to make everything fresh.

And then when I went around the other day, she was like, do you want a quiche? And I was a bit shocked because it was a packet one. And I was like, grand what's happened? But she's 91. Oh, my God. And did she say I just don't want to chop anything on those new surfaces? She's cat.

Yeah, no. Who's making a quiche at 91? Yeah. Forget it. Where did your mum live? Your nun, rather. In Manchester. My family is still in Manchester.

Oh really? Whereabouts in Manchester did you go? So, well, two places because my mum and dad's bloat when my mum were pregnant with me. Right. So my mum's is a place called Falesworth, which is in between Manchester and Older. Right. And my dad's was in Darleston, which is like east Manchester. Oh, okay.

North East, I think. Do you miss it? Because I think it's quite, like, when you go to Manchester, it's so, I mean, you know, every city in this country is different. But sometimes I go to Manchester, it's like, it's like, it's. It's just got its own thing going on. And it's so different from London. And I think if you're from then, you come here, you're like, what? Yeah.

My agent told me to stop telling people that he made me move here, but I don't think it was free world really. It was for work. It was like, yeah, I came down for work. Well, I got out of a relationship. Yeah. And I thought, you like, fuck it, just throw everything into it. So I've come down here because it's where all the teleproducers are and stuff.

So, like, try and, you know, put your way of his out. You're not the first. all the last that come to London seeking the pavement paved with gold and all that shit. Yeah. But now I've started to meet a bunch of them and do a bit of stuff I think. So it won't. Next year I'm going to move

back. When the contract on this flat's done, I'm going to move. Where in London living? Near Elephant and Castle. But when I first moved here, I were living in Peckham with a capoeira instructor who played the bongos every day and it was an absolute nightmare. Oh, it sounds great.

It was all. That's a right-up It's what I imagine being young is like, just living in Peckham with a Capoeira dancer. He used to smoke weed in the house, but he'd smoke it in the bath. And then you go for a wee and I'd be like, oh, it smells of wheat. It was awful. Yeah, no, that's not great. He was quite nice, but yeah. Also, Capoeira.

Don't let that put you off London, my Josh. It was the bongos that really did it. I can't. You moved down for a creative lifestyle, for quite safe. But bongos and wheat. No, the bongos. The bongos. That's the bohemian life. No, it's not the bongo.

I don't trust anyone that plays the bongos or gets a guitar. out without anyone asking if you could you get your guitar out put it away or anyone that's got a bandana those are my three rules and so i'm with you josh well i don't want to tell you no that's not true anyway this photo of you so you this is a photo that comes out quite a lot and what and why does your brother bring it out i think he thinks it's embarrassing but it's not i don't think he's like in like competition going is he not as cute as you no he is definitely not as cute and we have We're very competitive. What's the age difference?

Five years. He's five years older than me. But we're very competitive because he was the first in the family to go uni and stuff. Right. And then he came out of uni and he set up his own business. And then he's like been in like the Manchester Evening News. It's like working class lad. Do Lenn starts doing well for himself.

And he set up a really successful charity and then started. And he got like an award from the Queen. What? really calm. He's just making out of this. So, no, no. So my brother's like really successful but then I've recently been on Jonathan Ross and he's

few of me. Because I'm also now becoming more successful. So we get, but he's also my biggest cheerleader but we're very competitive. I think that's normal with brothers. Isn't it? It doesn't sound like there's any spite in it. Yeah, we're going on all of us

together. You're not the Gallagas, are you? No, we really get on. He's really supported. But, um, but yeah. we've always been super competitive. Right, but he obviously adores you. Oh, yeah, he's gorgeous, cute baby brother. Yeah.

If he wheels that out, he must have like... Every time, if I ever do anything, he'll always like, he brags about it. He's, like, we do get on, he's a really good brother. But we also are very competitive. Yeah, but I think that's quite nice to have that healthy competition, but also, do you know what I mean? You can be like each other's cheerleaders and you're supportive. But because he for years was the only one really doing anything. And everyone was like, what were you doing?

Well, I, I, I, I, I, failed my first year of uni because I used to do loads of acid. And then was just like going off on me. Acid? Yeah. Why acid? I don't know. I just kind of liked it.

It's a rare thing to you, someone say I was on acid. Well, not your generation. That's sort of like my generation, sure, acid and speed. But your generation, they're not doing acid, are they? I quite liked it because in our uni, we used to break into, because it was like not flats, it was like houses and the union accommodation. And we used to break into all the houses and rob them. brooms and then we'd go and play quidditch on acid.

I quite liked it. But I've not done any drug in 10 years. Did you need to be on acid for that to work? Probably, yeah. I can't really see quidditch working without acid. It's not really in my personality now. I wouldn't do drugs now. It sounds like you did them all.

Yeah, I was going to say you've nailed that. Where'd you go to uni? Solford, so I didn't really go very fat. What was the degree? You went far in your mind, though. He was performing art. But I went to Southford because my brother stayed in that accommodation because he went to Southford.

Right. And we both didn't want to move away from our granary, let's be honest. So we both stayed in Manchester. And but when I were, I would have been, what, about 12, 13, I went and stayed with him in his uni accommodation and went to like a uni party when I was like 12. So I was like, I'm going to go uni and I'm going to go here. And then I did.

Oh, wow. Yeah. We're called my son's 12 and I can't imagine him. I don't know if I was 12. He was 18, I'm five years. Yeah, 13, 12, 13. Yeah, 12. 13. Oh, how that?

And how did he feel about having his little brother at a uni party? Yeah, fine. He's always been like, we've got on really well. We still do stuff like he's going to come London in a couple of weeks. We're going to go watch Limp Biscuit. Did you have the Limp Biscuit? Yeah, they're still going to keep rolling, rolling, rolling. Yeah.

But I'm going to, we said we're going to. We said we're going to go in bananas and dress up because it used to be the undertaker on wrestling and we watch wrestling together. So we're going to go for that. Oh, wow. But when we're together, we're just like, we'll watch wrestling. We're just like, and we tie five. We're just like five-year-old still.

And has he always come and seen your comedy or encouraged you to do comedy? Yeah. Yeah. So he came. It was so funny because I've been doing it eight years this year. And now it's like, I've got pretty decent at it. So like, now he doesn't really say anything. but the first couple of years he was quite constructive

and it was helpful. I remember he came and watched me do Beat the Frog at the Frog and Bucket when I was like... Let's just explain what Beat the Frog is for those listening. It's like you go up. It is like really...

Oh my God, it's so brutal. So you're a young comic or a new comic and you go up and you've got to beat the frog. And if you get... What happens you get... They put cards up and then if you get card... In three cards go up you get... gonged off, like frogged off.

Yeah, you get frogged off. And then they play a song and go, you're a loser baby. Oh, it's so rough. I never did any, did you do those gong shows? I did the gong show. I never did any of that. Years ago.

Yeah, I never did any of that. I just didn't have the stomach. I did them all. And I've emceived them and I actually can't, I can't emcee them anymore because you feel too mean. Feel too mean. But your brother had good feedback and he's like,

I'll tell you why you got gonged off. Yeah, because I went and watched, I just remember it was very like constructive. because I was talking about, I went to the cinema that day and watched the film Exodus. I don't know when, if you ever heard of it, but it was a Christian Bale film. I was just speaking about the film.

And he was like, you know, when you're referenced something, it needs to be something that people know what it is. So, like, it just was quite helpful with stuff like that. Do you know what I mean? It's good that he didn't sort of kind of go the other way where it's like, mate, you need to do, have you thought about doing something else? Have you thought about doing the PGC?

When I said it's funny because none of my family are like, it's just like normal working class people from Manchester. None of them are creative. And then when I told them I were doing stand-up, everyone were like, yeah. Like that makes sense. Oh, really? Yeah. That's brilliant.

Everyone was like, you should definitely do it. And yeah. So. You've always been the funny one in the family. Yeah, well, just like the, I've just kind of always just done. My mum said I've always just done what I've ever wanted to do. Yeah, yeah. I don't really give a shit what people think.

Isn't that weird? Because I had a similar thing where I was like, I'm going to do stand-up. And everyone went, yeah, you should. If this means that you're going to calm down, please go. Did you like that? Definitely. Definitely. I noticed that I was less obnoxious at social gatherings.

Oh my God. And I'd so much better. Not wanting to hold court. Like I stopped wanting to go, guys, I've got something really funny to say. Because I'm like, oh, I've just done a gig. It's fine. I feel better. Yeah.

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You look like you might go fishing? It's McKenzie. What's that? It was like a, it was like a track suit brand. Oh. Oh my God. And the hat match is the top. Yeah.

This is my gangster face. How old are you? How old are you? You're nailing it. Honestly, I probably look a bit younger than I was. Yeah. Yeah. But I've always looked younger than I am.

Right. Because I'm 30 now. Right. And I look a bit younger. Oh, my gosh. God, you really do. I look a bit much younger than I am. I have, no lie.

Sure. So how old are you in this picture? Because like Kerry said, you do like that. I think I was in, I were in high school. Oh, were you? Yeah, I would have been smoking by then. I was smoking at like 12, 13 and selling six in school. But you hadn't started on the acid.

No, that was at you, no. But you'd already been to your first rave at your brother's. Yeah. That's probably where I was going. So why have you chosen this picture to share with us? Because it was in my phone. No, we're joking. No, come on.

There's got to be a story. Because I wanted one where it was like that because another photo is a new recent one. Okay. So I wanted one in the middle. Okay. And that was me as a teenager. Teenage, Josh.

And that's what I would go out and dress like. You do not look like a gangster. You like the happiest kid. You're going to look hard if you want to go for the gangster vibe. I don't. You just put me out. But that's my mum's living room. So I,

You weren't on the streets. So I went on the streets, yeah. But as soon as that front door shut... Oh, what happened to the cat? Yeah. It went sideways. I don't believe you. I don't believe that smile ever left you.

I was just on me way to go back to some people. Josh, what kind of a teenager were you? Were you confident about, can I, do you mind me talking about, like, your sexuality? Oh, no, yeah, go for it. How was that for you as a young teenage lad? Were you like, I'm definitely gay. I've always sounded like this. Like always.

Yeah, but like I got bullied for being gay, honestly, before I knew what it was. But then like, I really could talk me way out of it. And I don't know why I ended up. Like, got bullied for a couple years, but then eventually I think everyone was like, oh, fuck it. And I had girlfriends and everything. Right. And but I was still just as campers. I was just like this.

Yeah. But everyone just kind of were fine with it. Also, like at the school, my cousins, well they're not like my cousins, but my mum's best friends, but we call them cousins. Mum's best friends to kids. My cousins were like the cocks of the school,

like the hard ones. So I'd watch other camp gay kids like getting bullied, but like, oh God, they're having an hard time. And I was just like breathing passion. No one wanted to get battered off my cousins, so I was all right. Oh, you had that whole gangster. Yeah, but I thought it was something I were doing.

I thought they were intimidated by me. But I did also box as well. Did you? Yeah, box flight. years as a teenager. I'm sorry. You're like a dark horse. There's so many things coming out, but I would not have...

I want all of them in one tableau of like acid, boxing. But the acid was only for a, I only did drugs for a couple of years. Dumbled in the acid. I wouldn't have put boxing in that Venn diagram. And how long... You said you boxed for five years? About five, yeah, five or five, yeah. Teenager.

Sparring? I did a couple of spars, but then I got a brace and wasn't allowed to spire anymore. Oh, because you could like had someone's fist. Well, I think it was more like me in case it goes it. I don't know if you could go on your gum shield or whatever.

And then also I was like, I'm pretty now. I don't want to fight. But I didn't really aspire that much. I wasn't, I did a few, but I was more into, I liked like the routine of going three times a week.

Yeah, my son's karate and I can see that it's that. It's like, it's for the social side of it, the discipline, the physical, you know. I did do karate for a bit, but I stopped that. This is so random. Sorry, I've got too much stuff to say.

But I got my finger chopped off in primary school. Wait, how? How old? How did that happen? So then I stopped going karate because I couldn't use my arm for ages. I was trying to escape from primary school and do you know, the metal fences with the free shot thing? I got it stuck in there and I fell off and the finger stayed on.

Oh, shit. Josh, you actually. And the teacher had to pick it off. Oh my God. And so then sew it back on? The teacher didn't saw her. She was great, I need of work. Well, they were.

Do you know what? The school nurse was actually really clever because she knew to put it on top of a bag of frozen peas and not in ice, because if it's in ice, you might, like, freeze it. Oh, it's like your phone. You've got to keep it, like, cold.

If water gets in it, it. Yeah, you don't want it in it, but, like, on it. In the mechanism. Yeah. So, so, yeah. Put your finger in a bag of rice and drain all the leaves. but yeah they saw it back on seven hour operation that and it's a perfectly

functioning finger yeah can feel it yeah because that's why it takes so long because you have to sew the nerve endings back together okay now I die die die die sorry when did you finally go right I'm just gonna be really open about who I am gonna come out and I'm gonna I know people don't I didn't come out till you now so what you when you were like 18 19 19 yeah that's too that's quite early still for me i feel like that's early i feel like now though people are coming out i remember um a couple of years ago i went and taught in a college like a drama thing and when i did drama at college when i was like 17 or whatever and i was closeted and stuff but when i went to this other one

it was like 10 years later so there's only people who were 10 years after me but they're all out already and a bit of me was like fuck you like i loved it but i was like Like, I'll so like, fuck off. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah. It's so weird how, like, it's so, things have changed so much. Like, when I was at school, you couldn't have come out. No.

You, like, there's absolutely no. I went to an all-girls conference school. I could not have come out as a lesbian. It would be like the equivalent of carrying anthrax in my pocket. It would be, like, back away. I think as well, it's more that, I don't know, now that if someone's, like, homophobic, I think it, now even kids will be like, well, you're a fucking idiot. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

be like, well, you're the stupid one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I just feel like these days, they're picking different targets. But it's really, yeah, it's nice to see that it's a bit easier for kids to come out. Definitely, even though I deeply resent it. Yeah, it seems that most people seem pissed off that teenagers are not having a harder time. Yeah, yeah, I'm actually. You're like, why aren't you suffering?

They should be more suffering for kids. Because as well, I think, especially being so campers I am, I feel like if I didn't get called all these horrible words, and I just got like loads of love as a kid as well. I would be a fucking monster now. I would be an absolute piece of shit. Because like when you're in openly gay man now, you get loads of people who are like, yeah, we love you, you do you.

But if you have that as a kid as well, you're a fucking animal. You grow up to be the evil piece of shit. That's not a proven theory. That's well. Wait 10 years, I think you will. Is that we're going to have like absolutely. monsters at G-A-Y that we're all going to be avoiding.

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she went to my college oldham college oh did she the alumni is fucking crazy sarah lankishah jane horrick saran jones me love it wow that's quite that's good that's quite like a like a run-down area and greater manchester yes of course and I saw her in the street once. I used to be a charity fundraiser, and I saw her in the street, and then when you do that job, you just get to like piss off all the time.

So I went to turn around to just naturally do the next sale, and I saw her come out of Selfridges. She looked stunning. And then I just looked at like, and she's just like, walk past her. And then I ran into the Arndale shopping centre in Manchester, ran into the toilets and cried for about 15 minutes. Because you can speak to her?

No, because I was just so overwhelmed to be depressed. And then I had to go to my manager. I was like, I have to go home. And I went home. Did you? Yeah, it was just too much. I phone my dad on the bus. I was like, I can't look.

Wow. Just because I've seen her in the street. Imagine if you'd spoken to her. You're giving a mess. No, I'm scared in case I'll ever meet her. You will meet her. I don't. You'll meet her.

I've spoke about her a lot. It's going to happen, Josh. Well, she is lovely. I imagine she is. I love her. Oh, I want you to meet her and I want it to be on a TV program. Where do you have it in your house? He used to be in my bedroom and I thought that was a bit weird.

So now it's on the windowsill in the living room. On your bedside table. Yeah, because I remember bringing a guy back and he was like, is that your mom? And I was like, I wish. But no, it wasn't. I wasn't that they had to explain it. I bet you have to explain it quite a lot, don't you? Don't people say, are you relate to Sarah? It's really sad how many of my friends don't know who she is.

It actually really upsets me. They don't just know from seeing the photo of that. But if they don't know who she is, you could just say, oh, that's my sister-in-law. But then I get to speak about that. Yeah, exactly. And I get to educate them. Yeah.

So I actually kind of like that bit. You get to share. It's win-win. Yeah. Surround love. Who's this photo you're showing with us next? Oh, so this is my two friends, Beth and Holly. So one of them I've known since I was about 12 and one since I'm about five.

Right. Five or six. And this is just on my 30th birth. the other month we went away. Where did you go? We went Berlin but I went with just the three of us because I couldn't be out. Do you know when it's your birthday and you don't want different

especially now a lot of my friends are comedians and I don't think they mingle well with they don't mingle well they'll just sit in the corner talking about comedy. Yeah. And they don't mingle well and the rest of my friends look at them like the fuck are these weird and they're right to figure that. Yeah. It's so true. Yeah so you need to have a

comedian's party and then And then you're real normal people. Like, honestly, my partner, she can't bear being around those comedies. She's like, all you do is talk about yourself. I know, but it's not mutual. Just said, you know. No, come on. Ben's the same.

They're like, oh God, when you look gets together, it snoresville. Because we all just start talking sharp. I feel like I've got a very eclectic range of conversation. No. It's like comedy now, comedy before and comedy in the future. Well, no, but you could get the comedy out the way and then you can talk about other things. Yeah, but it takes too. three hours, didn't it?

Yeah, kind of three parts of wine. So you were like, right, fuck off the comedians. I want to go with my real friends. Yeah, and then I kept feeling bad because, like, all my friends in comedy were like, is your birthday suit? Like, what we do? Like, what we're doing? I'm like, I'm going away with my real friends.

But I felt a bad, but I just thought, no, I just go with my two closest friends. Yeah. Because these are like childhood friends. Yeah. And we went Berlin. And what do they do, your mates? So one is a nurse. Right.

And one works in like social care. And what do they think of what you do? They've got like normal life. They've got like proper, like good jobs. Doing good things for people. Like really like contributing to society. They love it though. Do they come to your gigs?

Yeah, they love it. And like it is that funny, you know, when like they're like complaining about the jobs like oh i've been working loans and i'm like me too yeah i'm just i'm just having that with nurses i still do though i still complain yeah but no they do they um no they have proper well she used to now she's um working as a school nurse so it's not as difficult but yeah she um yeah she's done a load of different nursing jobs and did you all go to like primary or secondary school together or did you meet at college?

So they're from where my dad lived and I went to school where my mum lived because they lived in two different parts. So Holly, that one on the left. She lived on the street in front of my dad's and I've been friends with her since she wasn't allowed to play out of her front garden.

That's how long. So she was allowed to play but only within the boundaries of the garden. So I'm like, so she would have been about five and I would have been about six or whatever. And then Beth, we used to all drink on the park and stuff together. That's how, and I know from being a teenager, drinking on the church. And now they're mutual friends as well, their mates as well. Oh, well, they know each of, we all was in the frame friendship group.

Ah, okay. So, I mean, moving away to London, you have given, you know, you're really close with your family and your mates. Yeah. You have made some sacrifices. Yeah, so I, because last month I didn't really have a day off all month. And then I said to my agent, like, I have to go home. So we had to pull some stuff and I went home for like four days.

And then like we went for food. And I didn't realize that I need to see them too once a month. Yeah, absolutely. When you've been friends that long, it is like family. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. It's really important. Do you speak regularly on the phone?

Yeah, WhatsApp and stuff like that. Yeah. And also you can sort out gigs, can't you? So you can go up and be. up there for like a little bit of time. Well, because Holly's got a, like a, well, I don't know is a toddler now. He's about to turn five.

No, that's not a toddler. There's a child. Yeah, that kid goes to school. Yeah, because she's got a five-year-old. Then she'll be like, leave him with Lee, a fella. And then she'll be like, I'll drive you to your gig. Oh, nice.

So she likes to get out and come to my gigs. Yeah, you do. And you've got a five months. Yeah. Any excuse to get out there else. Yeah. Oh Josh, well, thank you for, you know, showing us all your photos. And it's about this time where we ask you about, you know, a piece of music or a song that you, if we were to play that song, if you were to play that song, it would just make you think of a particular time in your life,

which is, I don't know, special or... Yeah, there's lots of different versions. My favourite is the Gloria Estabhan version. Okay. And it's called Home Me Free. real me kiss me have you heard it hold me hold me never let me do you know yeah i do know that i didn't know there was a glorious esther fan version she's got a version yeah um but that was um that's like a like a song from when i was a kid because have you ever seen the film two one foo thanks for

everything love julie newman no yes i've yeah yeah it's about drag queens it's got wesley snipes is a drag queen. It's like a 90, it's 90, 95. Yeah. Wesley Snipes, Patrick Swayze and John LaGuisimo are play drag queens, driving from New York to L.A. Sounds like Priscilla, but in America.

Kind of. But then they get stuck in a small town, but they pretend to just be New York women and not tell them that the drag queens. But it's actually really good. But there's a bit where, They're on a balcony and the song called me film, he kiss me, comes on and they go,

and they start swaying to it like this. And I've watched that film since I was a kid. Like, I can't remember the first time watching it. It was always on. And my dad said when I was younger, I used to run downstairs and be like, Dad, Dad, can we watch his film? Yeah.

And then just do the swing. Yeah. So that's always been like my song. Oh, wow. I'm going to have to listen to it now. I don't know. I'm going to check it out. it's really good. Josh, thank you so much

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