Memory Lane with Kerry Godliman and Jen Brister - S02 E13: Charlie Baker

Episode Date: September 27, 2023

"I went downstairs to do a sound check and there was Sting doing a sound check... ROXANNE..." Charlie has some absolutely brilliant stories and photos... Including one with Monica Lowinsky (and Graham Norton) Photo 01 - Charlie and his best friend Photo 02 - Charlie in his Brian Rogers dance tour T-Shirt Photo 03 - Charle with Monica Lowinsky Photo 04 - Charlie and Sam PICS & MORE - https://www.instagram.com/memory_lane_podcast/ For tickets for Josh’s Gobsmacked tour please go to: www.offthekerb.com A Dot Dot Dot Production produced by Joel Porter Hosted by Jen Brister & Kerry Godliman Distributed by Keep It Light Media Sales and advertising enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Come on, we can all be nosy together. So where are you now on your adventures? Adventures of Jen. I'm in Hull. Oh, you have... No, hang on a second. Let me say that again. I'm in Hull.

That sounded really happy. And sincere. No, it is sincere. I'm having a lovely time in Hull. Oh, Hull's great. I love Hull. I just, I love Hull. The audience were amazing.

Yeah. The theatre. Was at the truck theatre? That was great. And we went to a really nice cocktail bar, Kerry. Oh. Oh, how lovely. Oh, it was so nice.

Cocktails and dreams. Cocktails and dreams. What? Do you remember in the film, Cocktail? Cocktails and dreams. I do. That's not the takeaway. That's not why I took it from that film.

I love cocktail, the film cocktail. Is it? Do you? Tom Cruise, he just needed to make cocktails. I don't remember. What that was about? It was about a man who needed to make cocktails. Well, isn't that the story of Tom Cruise in every film?

There's a routine about that. Rich Hall. Rich Hall's got that routine. It's like, it's like, Tom Cruise needs to make cocktails. He has a crisis of confidence. He meets a woman. She changes his life.

He makes a great cocktail. Tom Cruise needs to fly planes. He has a crisis of confidence. He meets a woman. Tom Cruise flies an airplane. But now, because of that film, and probably because of Ben, I can't remember that Australian actor's name. He's very famous.

He did a lot of stuff. He is the mentor in Cocktail. And he's like the wise man. And he just is like cocktails and dreams. But anyway, you went to a cocktail bar, go on. Yeah, we fulfilled our dream, Kerry, of having a cocktail by going to a cocktail bar. What did you have? What did you have?

Oh, I had. I had, what I always have. What is? I had a dry, I had a dry martini with a twist. What's the twist? That's what I had. Lemon. It's a lemon twist.

Okay. Have you never had a martini? I don't feel very. like, I don't really understand cocktails. I've had a Pina. What do you mean? I just don't. I don't you understand?

I just, I haven't got a life of cocktails. Maybe I need to open up to cocktails in dreams. I just don't feel like I've like lived a cocktail life. Well, I mean, clearly neither of I. I'm in home. But you know how to ask for a cocktail. You know what you like. How many can you handle?

How many cocktails? Well, last night three. Three is quite a lot though. Oh, I absolutely should have only had two. Right. But once you've had two, you're like, come on, let's have three cocktails and dreams. Well, as it turns out, it was cocktails and hangover. But anyway, but it was worth it.

You seem very chipper for someone with a hangover. It's one of those hangovers where it's been accompanied. It's one of those hangovers where. I'm still pissed. How can I describe it? I'm still shit-faced. I probably am, you know. It sounds great.

I've had two coffees, so it's all right. That's why I feel like I can talk to you. But Hull, in short, Hull's been great. Yeah. Thank you to the people of Hull. And if you do go there, please go to this cocktail. Talking of cocktails, you had a cocktail named after you. What?

I saw it on social. media didn't one of your values. Come on. This is key intro chit-chat. Okay, here we go. So I had a cocktail names after me at York. Apparently at York Grand Opera House, they named cocktails after people that are performing there.

And they, because my surname, this is gold. You're going to love this. God, what great chat we're having. Named it after my, me. obviously. So it was a spritzer. Yeah. It was called the gen spritzer. I love it. I'd get one. Oh, was it the gen Britser? Gen Britser. You can't just call it Jen Spritzer. That's not a play on word. That's that that that's crap. The Gen Britser. It was really nice actually and I can hardly recommend it. What's in it? Don't know. But what was on it? It was just a spritzer. It's a

spritzer. But it had too many flowers on it. There was a lot of flowers. Yeah. And I don't a look of you as floral. Why, what do you think of me as? Well, just not floral. Acidic. No, maybe citrusy. Yeah, citrusy, yeah. Yeah, more that way.

But not floral. No, no. I think of you as being a bit like a punch. What do you mean? No, I don't mean like in a literal to my face. I just mean like a kind of fruity, tropical punch. Holidays. Pina collada.

Holiday. Yeah, peanut collard, sangria. Club Tropicana, like Pepsi and Shirley in the background. Cocktails and dreams, babe, cocktails and dreams. We were going to talk about my teeth whitening. Oh, stop doing that. Oh my God, you look like a cadaver. Don't do that.

Is that that game? Have you played that game where you get the mouthpiece? I'm supposed to tell me about that. And you get a card and you hook up the card and it says, say the word. I say in car insurance. Car insurance. Car insurance. And then someone goes, car insurance.

You go, yes, and then you pick up another thing. Is this, they're not a visual medium? I know, but you can hear, candelar. Okay. Candelar. What am I saying? Candelabri, you know. Yes, I can't elaborate.

Anyway, you put that on, put that on. Yeah. You put the whitening strips on your teeth. How long for? It says up to 30 minutes. So I, I've not got a lot of. lot on at the moment so I did I did the full 30 minutes do they look whiter Ben says not Ben says there ain't no difference I'm gonna say no well I mean it's kind of not really no I don't think so

no I think it's the waste of money well good to know I spent that money wisely then you it's a great investment in you and that's the most important thing anyway who've we got who's our guest Charlie, Charlie Baker. Charlie Baker. One of our faves. Absolutely. What a delight. One of our faves.

One of the absolute babes. And Charlie's on tour at the moment. I saw when I got to the whole truck theatre last night that he'd been there like a couple of days earlier. Oh, yeah? Yeah. And I was like, how was Charlie's show? And they were like, oh, Charlie was absolute pleasure to have. He was lovely.

I worked on his show. He's great. And I was like, exactly. That's what you're going to get for Charlie Baker. Oh, yeah. 100% professionalism. Yeah. Yeah, everybody loves him.

And if you get a chance to see him, check out his website. I'm sure his tour dates are listed on there. And if you get a chance to see his show, 24-hour pasty people are highly. Which is a great title. If you know Charlie, it's like the most perfect title. It's great. You're just going to have a night of fun, aren't you? Hang it out with Charlie.

You are. You're going to have a really good time. Anyway, this is us chatting to Charlie. I like what you're wearing. way Charlie I've just been in Brittany and you've dressed like a typical Breton man. I've gone for recently a French artist's look. I like it or I don't know if I look like or a very hairy bear or a Cornish sailor although I'm dead from Devon. Both work for me. How is it going for you this look? I enjoy it. I like it because I have to iron the shirts.

you and shirts I've got a lot of shirts you've got so many those Hawaiian shirts Ironing boards broken so yeah so it's either it's either buy a new one

or you know we spent out on a decent ironing board oh man I just love it when I get with you and then you just pop your shirt on yeah get your shirt on well it's my opening line

it's bad I used to have a I used to have a cardigan I used to wear remember yeah yeah and then if you I don't know what I'll end up writing I've got a joke about this shirt, not this one, I've got a different one, but it always ends up

just being my opening line. I would never be able to do that. I'd panic. I think if I forgot the top, I can't open. Yeah, well, I've done it before. I've gone out and gone, you know, the opening line is normally I bought this shirt alone. Yeah, yeah. Is the normal opening line? And then I'll go out and it'll just be,

I've forgotten to bring a shirt that's sort of a bit off. And they'll be like, sorry? Yeah, absolutely. All right. Well done. Quite nice. So, Charlie, you're on tour at the moment, I am here? I am on tour, 24-hour pasty people. And the show is about the West Country and countryside and rural living and growing up countryside and all those sorts of things. And I thought, I know where I do all right, tickets-wise.

I know where I'm quite popular and people enjoy what I do. So I'll just book tickets there and see if the show is all right. And the show is really good. It's the best thing I've done. Because I was worried, right? Because I like to do a big thing about, I do a big thing in Newton Abbot where I'm from. there's a big shot called Treygo Mills, which if you're from Newton Abbot or if you're from Devon, you'll know about Treygo Mills, which is this sort of big pound shop thing part, basically. So it's killing.

They're absolutely killed. And I was like, oh my God, this is an unbelievable show. And I was like, they're not going to know about Tregor Mills in Salford or Birmingham, you know. So I was like, I've got to find a way around that. But they did, and then they loved it. The only thing more powerful than a girl's girl. a girl's girl with a law degree. All's Fair is the fierce new legal drama

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Which one? That's my friend Madeleine, yeah, okay, so that's, I wanted to show that picture. We're probably about five there. Right, pre-showbiz. That's her house. Right. Four or five there.

And that's a picture. I think growing up, she was my best friend. Yeah. From super young, you know. And growing up having, a female as my best friend, I think, has been quite important in my whole life. Shaped you.

Shaped me, you know, and shape me through school and, you know, all those things. And we're not, we're not particularly, we contact each other now and that sort of stuff. There was never, there was never another side to it or anything like. You never got teased for it. Yeah. Like, oh, you two girlfriend. But then I got teased for a lot, I was tap dancing from the age of five. Right.

So, you know, does that make sense? It does make sense. So it was, I think. it was really, I grew up with her and I thought, oh, that was just me. That was just how my life went. Yeah. But my son now, a lot of his friends are all, a lot of his best friends are girls. Right.

So I just go, I wonder if that's a, I don't know if that's a genetic thing or just find that easier. But that's, that's in her house on her garden. I know exactly what we're in there. We're eating cucumber sandwiches. Her mum, Barbara, used to make us cucumber sandwiches. And I can still taste them now. Oh. And you had a rural up.

bringing. It's very idyllic. Not rural, I don't you think I'm living in a field, you know. In a barn. It's middle of Devon,

you know. It's the middle of Devon. By the sea. Sounds really idyllic, Charlie. I like to imagine it in a very lovely way. And also I love the photo because it's got that classic kind of early 80s tinge. Oh yeah. It's a definite Kodak.

Do you know what I mean? It's like, the Kodachrome. There's no filter on that. It just, I've got so many pictures that've got that kind of, Oh, definitely.

Yes. She's got the filter. But that's the physical photo somewhere, you know. That's a photo of a physical photo. You're really cute. Well, also my legs, you can see my legs in that. My legs haven't ever really grown from. That's sort of what my legs look like now.

Lovely. Lovely legs. Oh, cute little. Also, I can't remember ever buying any clothes or getting, I always have to have to. You know, but you know what I mean? I can't, I know, but like even getting older, I can't remember sort of ever choosing anything, you know. Lovely socks as well.

And you know now when you have, when you, you know, we've all got kids and you sort of dressing them and it's, it's, it's, you, you, you, I think you learn so much about your parents. Yeah. From how you, how you parent, how you parent, but how you, how much you have to look after a child. Yep. Yep. Yeah, yeah.

Move them forward and get them to the next bit. Yep. You learn so much about what your parents did. Well, you start appreciating your parents on a real another level. You're like, bloody hell, thank you. And also, like, when we were, you know, young, I mean, the amount of time I lean on some kind of a screen,

do you know what I mean? Where I'm like, we're doing a six-hour journey. Well, I guess put the iPads on. But I remember when we used to do car journeys in a car that obviously didn't have any aircon. It was like, we would just have to play games. Games, and also we used to do some long drives to South of France camping and stuff.

and my mum used to buy little presents, little knickknacks, and give it to us every other hour. And she'd be like, just hang on, just stop punching your brother for the next 35 minutes and you might get a hello kitty little stationing set out of it. Lovely little knickknacks. She was brilliant at things like that. And I think, God, she was much nicer than I was. What now? And also dressing your kids, it's funny, isn't it?

Because my teenagers now and it's lovely when they do start sort of being interested in sartorial thoughts and ideas and you're like oh you have got taste because i've just dressed you for a decade or more oh my son my eldest son he's got definitely he's always had a definitely he's known what he wants to wear always yeah be that a bent 10 costume right right or he'd always have a costume or you see it's funny because my son's 13 and we were in h and m the other day i was getting my daughter some bits and bobs for school and he couldn't he seemed indifferent i was like why don't go upstairs to the boys bit and see if you fancy a new shirt or whatever he couldn't care less then i dragged him up and i dragged him up and

there and then he suddenly out of nowhere when I'm thinking of changing my style yeah really what's hang on whoa what style and what do you what are you thinking what style do you want to go for he's like I just want to look smarter and better yeah I was like right

he's at secondary school yeah he's going into year 9 he's like I can't take this skater boy look forward into the new year so he got a black shirt and else I'm too old for this yeah I'm too old got to shake off the skater look yeah he came home at in the black cotton shirt, Elsie went, you look like him in whiplash.

Oh, yeah. Oh, this is the trouble. For a while, no, this is where I fail as a parent completely is. It's like if he comes, I can't help but say, it's like I'm comparing him at times.

It's like, it'll come down and I go, you look like a car thief. Oh, yeah. You're like a joy writer. And then you feel bad. You know, and then you go,

oh, no, you've chosen that. Yeah, now I feel back. So now I just feel like a bully. Yes, I've done that. And it's like, oh, no, don't.

Don't do that. Don't do that. You're like, oh, it's not funny. And also, when you're that age, you're supposed to look rough. Rough and stressful because, I mean. You're supposed to get it wrong and do all sorts, aren't you? Let them get it wrong. Yeah, no, I know that.

I know that. Wait, how old are yours? Yeah, let's see how you get on. Oh, it's easy, peasy when they're eight. And when they look like they've come out of rehab and they think that's an outfit. And you're like, no, that's not an outfit. I'm still wearing a shirt with dinosaurs on them. You find yourself saying this.

to another human and you go, I don't treat any other human. A person you love. And I love this. I love this person more than I've ever met anyone in my life. And I appear to be breaking their spirit. Didn't your parents do the same thing for you? I remember coming downstairs. My mum going, do you own a brush?

Do you want to use the brush? Or she'd have a problem with like, I couldn't wear jeans. Every time I wore old jeans, she was like, oh, you're always in these cowboy trousers. She, nothing I wore she ever liked. And I suppose that's just. My mom didn't like my clothes. And that was the grunge times as well. She'd be like, what.

What are you wearing? I mean, you just look like, you've been dragged through a huge. I just had this cardigan, right? And it was, you know, these really big cardigans that we used to wear? I loved it. I bought it. It had a zip. It was great.

You could hide in it. I could hide in it. And then I wear leggings and my DM boots. And then one time, I remember I was out in, because I grew up in Kingston. I came back from university and I'd got into Kingston to buy something. Anyway, I got into a sort of, I guess, a fight of some kind. Some girl was staring at me. She was like, what are you looking at?

looking at what are you looking at and that was about that time where as a teenage girl in in south London you couldn't look anywhere because someone would be like I still have really good comebacks for what are you looking at what are you looking at I'm like I've got lazy eye or I was looking at someone behind you or I thought I recognised you from a past life you've got to have quick comebacks I'm sorry I thought you were my comeback was I didn't realize that you owned that bit of air okay you were antagonising me okay so anyway it ended up with me getting punched in the face okay so I go home and I said to my mom

I just got decked in Kingston and my mum was like oh Unifer I told you not to wear that cardigan Oh genuinely I was like mum it wasn't the cardigan It was the way I was gobby to the woman who threatened

That is the parental reaction I know what have you done that for? I know which is awful even when they fall down and hurt themselves Why did you do that? Crying they're crying They're crying They look to you for comfort, Kerry. Also, don't get into a fight in a big card.

I know, this can't. That is bad fighting technique. If someone says, what are you looking at? You don't get gobby. You're back down, you stand down. You stand down, do you? I've got to learn that. I still haven't learned that.

Talking of clothes, what is this funny little picture? So there's me dancing, you see. And you started at five? Started at five. Are that shorts? Or is that really long? That's shorts, yeah, yeah. Because as a boy dancer,

the only boy in the in the whole dance school for a while what do you wear you know everyone's in leotards and leggings what you wear you know you don't know what to wear when you're doing that so Charlie so when did you when did you um how old were you in when you joined the dance troop I went I went to the Gaynor Walter School of Dance when I was five years old until I was 15 and was that your parents were like we'd like to I think I asked to go apparently did you enjoy being the only boy. Was there a bit of kudos in that? I didn't mind it. I used to ask to have the

curtains shut when I, because I when you changed. Because there was a separate it was a separate boy's syllabus. Right. So I used to have some lessons on my own. The dance class is to place

in a room that had massive windows out onto a football pitch. Interesting. So this is symbolic of where I love football. I love football. I love sport, played football.

You know, in all the school teams, absolutely love the whole thing. Yeah. And so my peers and people in my year and older kids would all train. Right. While you're doing pirouettes. While I was, you know, proper Billy Elliot stuff.

Did you get any shit for it? Yeah, all the time. And it just didn't bother you. I don't think I realised I was being bullied, which is a really, isn't that a great saving? Yeah. I look back now and I go, oh yes, you probably were being bullied. But it didn't feel sinister or threatening.

And also, mum and dad always gave me such confidence and such. And you were good at it? I was good at it. I was good at. I loved it. It gave you a life. Do you remember the Brian Rogers dance troupe? No, no. Would you know who that is?

Not the Brian Rogers Dance Troop. They were like, so you know on like Saturday Night TV? Yeah. Like Pants People twin. You'd have Bobby Davro and the Brian Rogers Dance Troop. Oh, wow. What's that it? Or the Crankies with the Brian Rogers Dance Troop.

I see. So like Pans People. Like a version of Pans people. Got it. But for what we, so my nan ran a guest house in Torky. Yeah. And for putting a poster up, they'd give her free tickets. Okay.

So we'd always get three tickets to go and see the Crankies. The Brian Rogers Dance Troupe. the Brian Rogers Dance Trio. Right, right. So they do, and they, the Brian Rogers dance troupe

would turn up and do workshops. So I'd go and do a workshop. Okay. And that sort of thing. So that's what that picture is, is me at. And you wore that t-shirt

with pride. Well, I probably bought that t-shirt and probably chose a black one because it wasn't a pink one and trying to sort of go, you know, I can wear it because.

Oh, Charlie. You do look very happy in it. You look very proud. Do you know what? Fair play to you? Because I think, you know, and I know you say that you didn't feel like you noticed you've been bullied or whatever, but I do feel like it's really hard of that age to be able to stand by doing something that you really enjoy

that goes against what every, what society, what your fears, what everyone says is, masculine or manly or whatever, and then just do it because you bloody enjoy it. Yeah, I love it. And because you're good at it. Yeah, I always loved it. Did you feel like you had to then, I know you love sport. I know you love sport because I've heard you talking. I know it's about football. You'll know my nose

I've chosen no football picture. Yes, well done. We're grateful. We have talked about football on the podcast. We have actually. We can do it. Don't bother. I do it all day.

But did you feel like joining the football team or being in, was it football or rugby or any of those teams? Because I like, because I could do everything, I'd go and do everything and I'd be in the, you know. So you didn't do that as a way to miss a day? Never joined a club. Never joined.

joined a football club or a football team like playing on a Saturday or Sunday. Because you were busy. You didn't have time. You know what's better than the one big thing? Two big things. Exactly. The new iPhone 17 Pro on TELUS's five-year rate plan price lock.

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That is Ian McKellen's 60th birthday party. What is happening there? It's good fun picture, isn't it? Listen, love, there's a picture for it all. I sang. I used to have a jazz band. Oh, I used to have a little jazz band.

Because you've got a great voice. You've got a wonderful voice. And I thought I was going to be a jazz singer for a while. Yeah, you've got a crew. You've got a total swing. So between being an actor and being a stander, I was sort of, I'm going to become,

I'm going to do this. I'm going to go booblay. I'm going to be boo-lay. So I did like, I sang with big bands and toured, like, did the Berlin Jazz Festival. Did you do cruises? And I did a cruise ship, but it stayed in Greenwich. So we'd get on and off in Greenwich.

Yeah, that wasn't what I had on everyone else. And then you just realise you're only performing for old people. So it just sort of goes. You sort of go, oh, I don't really want to do this. But that was a different kind of old person. Through the National Youth Theatre, actually, Siria McCallum was friends with our friend, Ed Wilson, who I thought sadly died a while ago.

But he said, Ian wants A singer someone to sing while people are having dinner Yeah You know I said oh great yeah sure

Absolutely I'd love that Of course the audience is Monika Lewinsky She at the time is the most famous person in the world Wow And that was at the time of the scandal

Turned up for the Turned up for the sound check And sound checking before me Was sting Oh my gosh That's quite intimidating So you're like, oh, oh yes. Fly me to move.

Let me play. And he's just gone, I don't bake coffee. I take my dear. Oh, you must. You wrote that, of course, sting, yes. Were you excited or? Oh, thrilled. And also, like, it was one of those weird days.

These, they must happen to everybody, but walked in this hotel and upstairs was the England cricket team. They've been playing a one day international and they were all staying. So I walked in, the whole England cricket team was in the bar. And I thought they must be here for the, I thought, no, of course they're not here for the bar. And then so I went, sort of stood in the bar. I thought, I'm going to just, you know, and I said hello to Darren Goff, who I now know through Talk Sports. But you just thought, oh, that's weird.

Meeting the England cricket team is sort of an odd thing when you're a sports fan. And then went downstairs to do this sound check and there's sting, you know. Roxette! Just him and a double bass And I'm like This is just mental This is going to be an unusual day What's he doing here?

What he can't be here And it's like And then the audience is everyone ever Oh my God A scrubber It seems we've stood and talked like this before You know And it's like

Oh God Oh my God And how did it go? Oh, great, you know, but your background, I used to call us four cunts in the corner. Because that's what you are when you're that sort of, you know, that's what you are when you're that sort of jazz. Yes, you're a jazz act, you know, your background. It's nice, isn't it? It sounds, if you go into a restaurant and that's playing.

Yeah, I love it. Yeah, I love it, isn't it, you know. Live, ignorable music. Oh, beautiful. He's live. He's ignorable. Tonight. It's four cunts in the corner.

with the Brian Rogers dancers. You need to get his back, darling. I want this. I'm booking a party. I need an ignorable act. Now, listen, we don't want to actually, we want to be able to hear you, but not be able to pay any attention.

We want to talk over you. Yeah, anyway, finish me set. Of course they wanted Sting for some reason. I have no idea why. Oh, annoying. Sting goes on. But I was allowed to stay. I was allowed to stay.

Yeah. Have a drink. And yeah, because that's a corporate that you do want to stay at. Yeah, but also I knew a couple of people there and so it was fine. You know, I wasn't just, it wasn't intimidating. Hello, you know. Jerry Halliwell speaks to me, right? I don't know, I suppose very unlovely.

She was a spice girl at a time, you know, well done. Oh, thank you. Were you nervous? It was like, took me now, you know, but no, not really. And then Monica Lewinsky goes out, I really, I really enjoyed it. And I was like, oh, thank you. And I thought, here we go. Would you like to dance?

What? What? Okay. I danced with Monaco-Lowinski. Oh, great. I was going to say, because the photo, because this is pre-smartphone, so it's a proper bother to get a selfie. Yeah.

Pre-smartphone. Yeah, I don't know who took it. I must have had a friend take it. I didn't have a photo. Yeah, no one's going to risk a selfie. No, no. Not one of those. Anyway, I thought, I've got to get a photo,

you know, at the time, most famous person in the world. And took the photo. Graham Norton. Photos. Got in on the end. You must have got in on the end. Once it's gone for me, I, I can't remember anything I've done. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, and good. I forget. A kind of the shit stuff. Oh, that stays in the forefront. Oh, yeah, I think that. When social media first got invented and people started sharing photos, it was like everyone, it was like awakenings. Everyone was memory.

They were like, oh my God, I've been to Spain. And they suddenly realized because someone else shared a memory, a photo memory, they just blanked. That's what I love about this podcast is you dig out these pictures. That's exactly it, yeah. And you tell the, you tell the memory. I completely forgotten it and then I went, oh yeah, I've got that. At the town I would have seen that photo and demolished myself.

But now you just didn't want a handsome young man. God, you know. How old? How old are you? Absolute winner, you know. You go, you go. How old are you? I'm probably 24, 25 there.

Yeah. Well, you can work it out. How old's Siria McKellen? Oh, I don't want to have to do those sawmell. I think he's 80 something. Anyway. Yeah, so there we are. Never seen a since.

She never writes. She never rings. Monica. Oh, she's got podcasts. She might get you on her pocket on. So you're like this, right? And then you can never take the boy out of Devon. Right, so I turned up for that gig in my full tucks on my bike.

Right? Oh, God. Right. So then I'm pissed, you know. Pissed at the end of this party. It's not the end. I think, right, do you know what? Quit while you're ahead.

Yeah. Don't say it's an idiot. Get out of here. Don't be the last to leave, Charlie. Came out. Yeah, imagine it. We'll be off the party, Ian. Gandalf.

This is pre-Gandex. He's not even Gandalf at this point. Went out, got some chips, held them under my arm, cycled home. Brilliant. Came off me bike and that's what that scar on my hand is. From that, so there we are. So a little scar on my hand from carrying me chips home.

You forgot, you forgot the memory, but you got the scar. I forgot the scar. Showbiz scars. Showbiz scars. It's like jaws, but showbiz anecdotes. It's good podcast. Showbiz scar. Everything is a potential podcast.

I was in Candide in 1984. Of course, most of the scars are inside. I want to get Elaine Page on this. Oh, she'd love that. She'd be brilliant. Well, when I played Avita. Now, darling, when I was working with Tom Drones, did I talk about the time I worked with Sonatra?

Showbiscars. Looking forward to it. There will be a podcast for that. It probably exists. It's probably going to be happening. This is you and sad. How old did it? So you weren't together, I assume, when this was taken. No, you see, okay, so there we are.

So I've known Sam since I was 16. Look at you in that picture. She's 18. She's 18. And in that photo, I am. You're flirting. You're flirting. We're obviously flirting in that picture, aren't we?

You are. Look at your face. We don't get together for another eight years. But the writing was on the wall. But look at that photo, okay. Oh my God. You are giving it large. That's a party.

We were always like that together. We were always like that. And did other people say you two need to be together? Always. But we were always tight, tight, right. And throughout other girlfriends, other relationships, every other relationship, in the back of my mind was always that photo. Really? You were like Sam's the one?

Something. I always thought of that photo. I'd see photos of myself with other people and I go, well, it's not that photo. Yeah, I don't look as in love as I go. And that was in my photo. That's Sam's photo. So she must have had that. house or in a flat or whatever.

No way. But you can already see, like it's quite unusual to be able to see chemistry there. It's weird, isn't it? And I look at it and I look at it and I don't think I'm in imagining that that... Absolutely, you're not imagining. No, no, no, no. And also, I mean, it's very, it's a great picture because it's such a 90s picture. It's a candid, but you're not posing.

No. You don't know it's being taken. You're caught having an, you know, intimate, private chat, whatever. But you can see that you're looking at her If someone looks at you the way you're looking at her, then the way that you're looking at Sam, that is like, yeah. Well, that picture, there's a Joni Mitchell line that is love is touching souls. And I think that's what, that's what that picture for me is. Yeah. You can see it in that picture.

It's lovely. So, yeah. Are you married? We're married, yeah. So your wedding must have been a big bash. It was a big bash. Did you just sing a little song? This is my worst thing.

People who sing at their own weddings. You can't have that. Oh, you can't do that? I think is utterly grim. Don't you think it's utterly great? Well, I don't think people just want to do a gig. No. It's a bit like doing a gig.

Just do a gig. But just do a gig. Yeah, but it's all the people you love watching you sing. The worst situation. I wrote a play by it. We did a play in Edinburgh called Wedding Band. Sam was in that as well. Oh, brilliant.

Me Sam and Lee Fenwick. Remember Lee Fenwick? It used to be a character comic, the character called Mick Sargent. I used to build ships, which is the best line ever. and Spencer Jones and we did this play in Edinburgh

it was brilliant fun but that was about being in a wedding band and people always singing summertime at their own wedding Oh No no you're saying Why always summertime As my kids would say

Yeah Brilliant Thank you Charlie You know We'll pretty split up tomorrow Don't Oh for heaven's sake That's a good

out. That's a good out, mate. This is the comedian, end on a banger. No, you have to check in every day, you know. No, absolutely. You're still into it. Is that what you say? Every morning when you bring a tea, still into it. Keep you up for it, babe. Come on. I will just say it as well. I've so looked forward to coming in today.

And this is for the podcast. Don't cut this bit out. Because I love you and I love you separately. Just as human beings, you're so, you're always such a comfort and joy and so much fun to see you on any gig and you're such good human being and I just, I was really looking forward to seeing you both I've never seen you both in the same room

so I didn't know if you were the same person sometimes Well the feeling is mutual Charlie I've been really looking forward to seeing you I went to see Tina Turner the musical the other night Oh my God it's so good Oh is it? Well the girl who plays Tina

is absolutely incredible. Oh my God, I've got to go. Because I absolutely love all of Tina Turner's music. Yeah, and it's her story. And that woman, I should have looked her name up, but she was extraordinary. I saw Tina Turner live when I was 12 at Wembley. Did you?

Yeah, my mom and dad took me to a concert in 1985. Kean L. I know, I was lucky. Anyway, I do recommend Tina Turner the musical. Tina Turner the musical certainly beats Annie the musical at flipping Wimbledon Theatre in 1985. Oh, don't knock, Annie. I mean, I was about to sing The Sun will come out tomorrow

and then a voice in my head went down. Oh my God, I think that was my voice and it wasn't in your head. Because I've done that before. I've done that. And then everyone pulls that face and goes, no, stop, stop. Kerry, I don't actually know if you can sing. No, I can't sing. Have I told you the story about where Ben made me?

cry. So I was seeing. I like singing. I love music and I was singing away and Ben without any, he just gently went, can you, can you stop? And I just, I burst into tears. I felt so hurt. I was really like, oh, Kerry.

Is it that bad? And he went, no, he's just, I'm trying to concentrate on other things. and I just, it's a bit much. It's quite harsh, isn't it? Especially when you're really giving on yourself. I was really in the zone. I was, and my eyes were closed and everything. I was really in the zone.

So since then, I don't do karaoke. I don't. Oh, no, you've got to do karaoke. Because karaoke, it doesn't matter. You've got to just let rip. It doesn't matter how you sing it karaoke. It's great. Do it.

Live it. You've got to own it. That's what karaoke is for. I mean, I had a similar thing, because I'm teaching myself to play the guitar. Oh, you think? And, yeah, I was playing, knocking on Heaven's Door.

Yeah, I was really going for it. I was actually singing along to it, you know, a lot slower than the actual knock, knock. It's quite a slow song anyway, in it? Well, I've made it. So, if you're going slower, I bet it's like, the battery's gone.

Yeah, it is a little bit like, almost like a majority. Nook. Nook. Anyway, Chloe came in and went, sorry, I'm just going to shut the door. Okay, just close the door. Wow.

And at that point, I was like, I just think I'm really nailing this guitar thing. No. No. No. It's awful when people sort of just gently. They don't do it cruelly because that's a whole different thing. But when they just gently ask you to quieten down and you're in the zone. There's a flip of that, which is that both of our partners,

when they give us a compliment, we can know that it's real. Yeah, no, you're right. No, you're right. As what Ben said, he's like, fucking hell. I've been, you know, I've blown enough smoke up your ass for the last. It's just one negative, tiny little tincture of, can you just stop it? And you cry. And you burn like, why are you so mean?

He's like, Jesus cries. This is such a, this is such a brilliant window into the mind of a stand-up comedian, I don't think. Just so pathetically fragile. It's so tragic. We don't hear, you don't hear a compliment, but one slight negative thing, you're like, I know, it's terrible.

It's a terrible tip. You can be having a perfectly nice gig, and most people are having a perfectly nice time, and you'll zoom on the one person that isn't. And it takes all your self-control not to walk up to that person and go, what's the matter with your face? You're having a good time?

We'll tell your face. Tell your face. mate tell your fucking face. I think at one point in the podcast, not today because the podcast is over, but at one point we will end on me singing. A solo. Yeah, solo.

Yeah. I don't think I'm comfortable with this. We're going to do it. Okay, I'm having panic attack. Don't worry, it's not going to happen. It's not right now, but at some point, the sun will come out. Jen, can you just quieten down?

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