Memory Lane with Kerry Godliman and Jen Brister - S03 E26: Susie McCabe
Episode Date: August 21, 2024"I told my parents I was gay and I left the house 20 minutes and I went to a phone box at the bottom of the street because I was homeless..." This week we have the wonderful and brilliant Susie McCa...be on the show talking about coming out, meeting Jarvis Cocker, her amazing nan, bucket hats, her wedding... It was just such a joy to have her on. PHOTO 1: My Nan PHOTO 2: Coming out PHOTO 3: Getting married PHOTO 4: Bucket hats PHOTO 5: Jarvis Cocker PHOTO 6: Billy Connolly PICS & MORE - https://www.instagram.com/memory_lane_podcast/ A Dot Dot Dot Production produced by Joel Porter Hosted by Jen Brister & Kerry Godliman Distributed by Keep It Light Media Sales and advertising enquiries: hello@keepitlightmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Kerry.
Yeah.
On the 12th of September,
yeah.
2024, what will we be doing?
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I only started a podcast to do live ones.
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Hello, and welcome to Memory Lane.
I'm Jen Bristair, and I'm Kerry Goddlyman.
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with our very special guest
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Do you play banana grams?
No, but you've told me about banana grams.
I went to buy banana grams,
but we were in a shop.
in London, you know the one, the big age.
And it was like fucking 30 quits.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, I'll give you.
It's just like a little bag of banana.
No, banana grams shouldn't cost you more than 15 quid.
That's the rate for it.
And it is a bag of letters and you will not regret it.
You will not regret it.
You've said this to me before.
You said this to me for.
Exactly for holidays.
For holidays, so much pleasure to be had.
Honestly, get it for your holiday this year in Greece, Turkey.
Okay, I'm going to, I will do that.
I will find it online and I shall purchase it.
Get it off, Jeff. Get it off, Jeff.
I'm trying not to get it off Jeff.
I know we all try and boycott Jeff.
I'm boycotting Jeff.
I know.
We always try and boycott Bezos.
If I can get it somewhere else.
I need it tomorrow.
Click, click, click.
There it is.
On your doorstep.
If I wait.
No, but that's why I've got to get it today.
If I wait, then obviously Jeff's the one I go to.
If you haven't got time.
Yeah, but if I've got time, I'm going to avoid Jeff.
Yeah, but then you go down the other road because I bought something the other day for Ben,
a suitcase for our holiday and we're going in less than a week.
I can't believe it.
I thought, where is that suit.
And then I just looked up delivery date after we've left.
And I thought I should have just got it off, Jeff.
Oh, flipping neck.
That's a pain.
I tried to boycott Jeff.
Backfired.
Yeah.
I would never buy a suitcase online, I don't think.
I need to see it.
Yeah, but it's a nice one.
It was in Eastpack.
I mean, I'm happy to take their sponsorship.
It was an East pack one.
It was fancy.
And it was in the sale.
And I thought, that's a lovely suitcase.
So I ordered it.
Now I've got to wait forever for it.
Now you've got to wait for it.
After we've gone on holiday.
After you've gone on holiday.
But East Pack works everywhere.
Even after you've been on holiday.
That could be their tagline.
I know, but it was a fancy one for our holiday
because our holiday is a fancy holiday and I want a fancy.
It is a fancy holiday.
You want some fancy freaking luggage.
I want to be, if I go somewhere fancy,
I want to feel fancy, look fancy, have fancy.
And I think you're completely, yeah.
I don't want to be like, oh, look, this is the same bag.
I've had for nine years.
Look at the hole in it.
Totally.
I've had to tie a ribbon around.
because it's the same kind of a seven-other-ups
I want to be one of those people that's got four-wheels.
Not some chump lumbering around an airport with two wheels.
I want to be a four-wheel winner.
Four-wheel.
Oh my God, four-wheels is a game-changer.
It's another level.
It's a game-changer.
Why aren't we all doing,
why are they still selling bags that've got two wheels?
You just might as well be using a mango.
I almost want to come up to people and go,
you do know you can get a bag with four wheels.
Four wheels.
You watch those people gliding around that airport.
Gliding.
With a smug look on their face.
Rightly so.
Yeah, living their life like it's golden.
Sometimes people are sitting on them.
Well, basically these are tronkeys.
They're adult trunkeys.
Adult trunkeys.
So trunkeys have been around for ages and then some bright spot went,
why are the kids having the four wheels?
Four wheels.
We could all have four wheels.
I feel like the day that I got a bag with four wheels was one of the happiest days of my life.
Yeah.
That was a real love language to yourself.
I just couldn't believe it
walking up
going through Gatwick Airport
which is my airport
You didn't even have a flight book
Did you? You just went as a day trip
No
No
I went for a day trip to Gatwick
With your whole wheel
You just took your lunch in it
You took a pack lunch
Yeah
Took the little
Toy train to the North terminal
Yeah
Glided about all day with your four wheel
Glide in about
Came back
Came back
Yeah
And everyone
Everyone was like
She looks like she's having
the time of her life.
And I felt, I sent to him, this suitcase is empty.
I'm not even going on holiday.
I'm not going on holiday. I'm not going anywhere.
I'm just here for the four wheels.
Yeah. I know.
For the wheels and giggles.
Oh, it's so lovely.
Anyway, I've, I bought Ben this lovely case and it's not going to arrive in time.
Well, I feel sad for you.
So you've gone to Bezos.
I might have to go to Bezos or TK Max, both are heinous.
Oh, yeah, but TK Max, I don't know what's in there.
You're like, you could go in there, it could go in there.
You're like, it's every fucking thing that I don't want in there.
Yeah.
And then the one thing I do want, not there.
That's why I hate about TK.
I have to have a real comfort.
Like, I have to have a mantra when I'm in TK.
Max of like, it's okay, it's going to be okay.
It's going to be okay.
Just keep focus.
Keep focus.
Don't look at the rails.
Don't look at the rails.
Get in.
Get out.
Get out.
Get out. Get out.
Get out.
And the minute you're like drifting into the kind of other areas, you're like, get out.
Yeah, I can appreciate that.
It is like the most...
It's the Hunger Games jungle...
It's consumer hunger games.
Yeah, yeah.
So the only thing that I ever think,
if I ever really...
And I know it's going to be in there
is one of those massive size of a tree trunk,
vanilla candles.
And I've never wanted one of those.
But they're always there.
If you want one, they're there.
Get one.
Just while we are on this subject,
They are really good for suitcases.
They've got fucking loads of them in every colour
and they've all got four wheels.
Okay, that is good to know then.
That is good to know.
Suitcases, four wheels, TK.K. Max.
Adult trunkeys, mate, all day long.
Adult trunkeys mate, yeah.
Kerry, who are we talking to?
Oh, today we are talking to the fabulous Susie McCabe.
Oh, I love this conversation.
I enjoyed you two meeting each other for the first time on this one.
It was delightful.
It was really weird because we've known of each other
for such a long time.
Yeah, you clearly really admired each other,
but you'd never met.
So it was really nice to witness you meeting each other.
It's just like sit back, relax and listening to a great storyteller.
Yeah, I really enjoyed this episode.
Yeah, so this is me and Jane chatting to the wonderful Susie McCabe.
You've never met Jen.
No, I was just saying that's Kate.
Joel's like, how do you know Susie?
Jane, Susie.
Oh, thanks, Kerry.
Fucking love God, boom in there.
What a fucking, what an intro.
Yeah, just shut it down.
I mean, I do know Susie's name, Kerry, thank you.
No, but it's like a cocktail party, isn't it?
Jen, do you know Susie?
Susie, do you know Jen?
No, but I know.
I'm like a hostess.
Fucking hell.
It's because I've known of Susie for years.
And also, like, through word of mouth, of everyone going,
have you met Susan McCabe?
She's really fucking funny.
You've really love her.
Dada, da, da.
I'm like, we've just literally never met.
Never met.
And there's absolutely no reason why.
It's just...
I know, and you know, last year, you were in Belfast doing a gig,
I was in Belfast doing a solo show.
You were doing a solo show.
Why didn't you?
I didn't know until the next day
until I went to socials.
I was like, what are the chances?
You should admit.
What was I doing in Belfast?
And also, who's not looking at what's on in Belfast to go,
let's just put the lesbians in Belfast at that?
Let's split the lesbian audience.
Fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight.
It's a testament.
It is.
It's a testament.
to how fucking good we are.
We split the lesbians in Belfast.
Yeah.
Otherwise, you'd have had a lot of disappointed lesbians,
the ones that didn't get into one or another.
Do you know what?
There would have been lesbians going,
why are they both on on the same fucking night?
Imagine if we ended the Good Friday Agreement
by just both in the same something at the same time.
I've got that power.
I know the lesbian influence is strong.
I've got that power.
I can just put on up one of the football tops that I've got.
from half the size of Glasgow.
I'll divide those lesbians like that.
No bother.
It's not even the sectarianism
we have to worry about in Belfast.
It's the lesbians.
Fact.
Don't fucking split the lesbians.
Huh?
Why doesn't that ever make the news?
What lesbians in Belfast?
What about you?
I think you'll find them right into the cock now.
Thanks very much for that accent.
Yeah, my gag reflex has been.
brought down to zero.
Susie, it's really
lovely to meet you, albeit we
still haven't properly met. Yes.
I think one day we'll be allowed on the same bill
together. It probably would be
a lesgig.
It would be, do you know what?
It would need to be a fundraiser.
It's a lesbian fundraiser 100%.
For dental dams.
That's what it would be.
We're raising money for dental dams for women all around
the world. Hashtag HV awareness.
Can we get that gig organised?
Oh shit.
everything's falling apart
can we get that gig in the diary
guys
I'm so open to booking this
it's so funny
imagine
didn't I meet you at one of your first
sort of early or your first London gig
that gig at the Albert Hall
my first London gig
I shared a green room with Kerry Godleman
who you like that is when
the second series of afterlife
I think had just finished
wait a second so your first gig
in London was the Royal
I feel like that was...
That's a funny way it started,
you started quite...
The next one was Kings Cross,
which is where my parents always said
I would have ended up, so, you know,
you know what I mean?
It was funny, because when you just casually said to me,
this is the first gig I've ever done in London,
I was like, oh my God, but then it actually transpired
you had been gigging very successfully all over the place
that just happened to be your first London gig.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't do that thing
that a lot of Scottish comedians do when they kind of,
right, that's me three months,
going to go to London as if it's this kind of Dick Whittington paradise for comedy.
It very much isn't.
Absolutely not.
And I was still working.
You know, I was in my first marriage and I was still working and I had a good job.
I had a really good job.
And I was like, I'm not going to chase the London thing.
And I kind of made a decision to build myself up in Scotland.
I'm incredibly fortunate that Glasgow punters back their own.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
And we do. We do. And Scottish people generally do that as well. So I think I made a good decision trying to not go to London and just kind of build myself up and get a reputation in Scotland.
I mean, you say that Scottish audiences support their own and I guess they do, but also not a few shit.
Oh, no. I mean, like they support people that they love and that are really good and that they're worth celebrating. And, you know, you are also exceptional.
comedian. So you have this, you know, it comes with a sense of pride, I think, for
Scottish people that they're like, she's ours. Yes. We own, we own a bit of her.
She belongs to us. Whatever happens, you can't have her. She's ours. Aye. It's the Conley,
Bridges, Boyo, Andy Murray thing. You know what I mean? No, they're yours. No, no, no, no. Listen,
there's only six million of us. We gave you them. Do you what I mean? Yeah. Never.
mind tarmacaddle, never mind penicillin. We gave you comedians and a tennis player, so just relax.
You have to remind English people about penicillin because they do forget and the telephone.
It's incredible.
A tarmac.
I mean, the list is endless, but we'll only remember Billy Connolly.
Yeah, that'll probably be the biggest.
Billy Connoe. That'll be it. John Logan Bird and Billy Connolly.
So let's go back. Let's go back, Susie, before.
before we go forward any further,
and let's go to your first photograph.
Which picture would you like us to go to first?
Anyone you want.
Anyone you want.
Well, there's some lovely pictures of you.
Are these with your nan?
Yeah.
Oh, this one of you, when you're little,
with your nan wearing a tabard?
Yeah.
Oh, I love a lady in a tabard.
Tell us about that picture.
So, my nana, who I'm actually sitting in front of her picture just now,
I lost my nana in 2016.
My nana actually died the night before the breaks.
vote before we went to voting Brexit
I used to have a joke on my nana just went on
you know what
I live through Hitler and I live through Thatcher
I'm no living through Boris Johnson
very
Very wise
I'm out, I'm out
Completely bad
Man checking out
A lot of people checked out in 2016
Yeah
for a lot of exits
Yeah
I haven't I haven't checked back in if I'm honest
No fuck it no
What's the point
Exactly
So my nana
and I were really close
and I was named after other
we were 30 years difference and I was 36
when I lost her so I was incredibly
lucky to have her for that length
of time. Yeah. And I would spend
every weekend with my Nana
we would build Lego, we would
talk and she was the least judgmental
person in the world and my Nana
lost them. She lost six kids
and then she had Charles and my
mother and Charles was killed
by a coal lorry. The guy
was dropping off coal to the pub and had four or five
pints as you did back in the 50s.
Oh my God. And he was
killed and my grandfather was a wonderful
grandfather but he was a terrible husband
and father as most men
were at that point in time.
And she
had a battle axe of a mother. She was the
only woman
or the only daughter of a family.
Our parents divorced in
1936. She was
16. Yeah.
That was rare. And Catholic.
Oh my God. God.
That's unheard of.
So the only time my grandmother ever went to Edinburgh
was the day that she had to go to the court of session
in Edinburgh to bear witness to the divorce.
That's the only thing.
She never went back to Edinburgh.
And they were poor, right?
They were poor.
But she was always, you know,
didn't matter how poor you are,
you can always afford soap, right?
That's cleanliness is next to godliness, right?
You know that?
Yeah.
That kind of thing.
And she was never,
bitter and she was never angry
and she was the most
placid, kind
woman and I done her
eulogy at her funeral and
one of my last lines was
everything that's good in us is because of you
because she took the time
and she nurtured and she cherished
and you know she wasn't one for affection
she wasn't openly affectionate
until her much older years but you knew you were loved.
Does that make sense?
Totally.
She didn't need to tell you that she loved you, but you knew you were loved.
And when I was 17 and when I came out, I told my parents I was gay
and I left the house 20 minutes later.
And I went to a phone box at the bottom of the street because I was homeless.
Oh, C-D.
Yeah, I was standing with a bag and the clothes I was standing in a 60 pence.
and at the bottom of our road was a phone box,
my pure retro,
and I put some coins in,
I phone my Nana and I went,
Nana, I've been kicked out of the house,
and my Nana went, right, well, just jump a taxi and come here.
Now, that would have been back then,
1997, 20, 25 quid on a black hack.
Wow.
Yeah.
And I got, she was just, just up you come.
So I pitch up and a taxi and she's standing at the tenement close,
you know a Glasgow tournament
and she
went over paid the driver
took me almost sitting upstairs
and then I've realised
that I now need to come out to her
right and I'm like oh shit
so she had no idea
why you've been kicked out of home
why I've been kicked out of the house
oh god
because it was literally
so stressful
I sat my parents down and I went
listen I'm gay
and they were like
oh right
and they're like
well you can stay in the house
or you can be gay
like that was the option.
So I was like, oh, right, okay, so obviously I didn't he stay in the house.
And it was weird because you think about all my mates from school and stuff like that.
We were all pals and they'd be phoned in the house.
They'd be like, do you want to go to the pub for a pint of?
They're like, Susan doesn't live here anymore.
And he didn't have a mobile phone.
So they didn't know where I was.
They didn't know anything.
And I arrive at my grands and we go upstairs and she's sitting in her seat and I mean, where I would always sit.
And I was like, she went right, what's happened?
And I was like, oh, geez, man.
It's like, I think it's, Nana, I'm gay.
And she went, right, so what is it that they've put you out the house for?
Now, my Nana's 77.
More statues than the Vatican, right?
All the wee Virgin Mary's that you can spin the head off of, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Jen, you will be familiar with this stuff, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Your mom and all that, right?
Very Catholic.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
and I say
well it's because I'm gay
and she went right
so hold on if they put you out because you're gay
and I was like yeah and she was like right
and honestly she was quiet for about 30 seconds
and she just went
does this being gay mean you can't put a kettle on
oh what a brilliant Nana
what a wonderful woman
so she was always there for me
we had quite a terse kind of upbringing.
My dad worked away from home a lot
because there was no real jobs in Scotland
and it was the 80s
you know, it was the kind of industrial heart
was stripped out of Scotland so my dad was a spark
and he had to go down to London mainly
and do shop fitting.
So we lived in a nice house
and we lived in a decent area of a kind of
poor area if you know what I mean
but we lived in a nice bit, a nice kind of suburb
and then it was that thing where you go
oh this is this is about
keeping up with the Joneses
and it was a house that was really quite unhappy
and it was quite an unhappy childhood
and then obviously I knew I was gafy in early age
and subsequently I think Nana did as well
but I think it's that thing where
the bond I have with that woman
will be forever more
and I've actually got
that is some of her ashes
and she got it in that colour
because that's the colour of mine and my mamma's eyes
I've got the same eyes
Oh that's gorgeous
And that was like
I got that three months after she had passed away
And my wife said
Look I'm going to give you this
And it really helps my grief
And now it's funny because she's on my Edinburgh poster
She's been on television
She's been to Australia
Do you know what I mean
So it's like
Yeah she's with you where you go
totally and Nicola got it engraved in the inside and it says forever holding my hand
which is just that's beautiful beautiful thing that is gorgeous yeah and it really helped with
the grief and now it's like you know before you walk out of the kings or before you're going to
do a TV record or you're live at the Apollo you're like nah nah nah this is amazing you know
this is amazing so it's a kind of with you yeah totally totally maybe it's maybe it's
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Everyone in the studio that I worked on this jingle with
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Yeah, we're around either watching these commercials on TV
or sitting with our moms while they were doing their makeup
and it became really personal for us.
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Is there a photo to move on to next?
No, do you know, I don't...
So there's a photo there that you'll see me with the worst Bob in the world, right?
But that's when I worked in Delmonicas.
Is it this one in the pub?
Yeah, yeah.
So I would say...
Is that...
Wait.
Susie, hang on a second.
That is not you.
That is.
How old were you in this picture?
18.
How old?
18.
18.
Oh, you're still a baby.
I know.
And what were you up to when you were a teenager then?
So, pre-leaving the house, I was a stora.
I was an indie music.
I don't like see if you said to me, Susan, never ever smoke, never ever drink.
I was like that.
Oh, you said, no, I'm a way to smoke and drink, right?
That was me.
But I think we were a similar age.
I think everyone was getting on it.
This is like the 90s, isn't it?
You couldn't go for a point.
You couldn't go out.
The catchphrase of that time for me
was what you do in here, the pubs are open.
I mean, like that everyone was drinking and smoking.
Totally, totally.
It's just that, you know, in Glasgow it starts when you're about 13, right?
But, you know what I mean?
Like, we train, we train our kids, you know?
You start early, get the skills up early.
We bottle of Mary down for your Christmas, pal.
right.
But yeah, I mean, so I think, you know,
pre-leaving the house, I was very much an indie kid,
still an indie kid, but I would, I mean,
I used to smoke loads, ah, hash and stuff like that.
And then I got to 17, and I packed it in.
As soon as I was living with my anana.
When you moved in with your nan, yeah.
Ah, yeah, I just packed it in.
What, the smoking weed?
Smoking wheat. Smoking wheat.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I was like, you know, I mean,
it was in the 90s you could dabble in anything you wanted.
and then I went and I got a job in a clothing shop called bankrupt clothing
when I was living with Manana
and a couple of the guys in it were gay
and they were like, are you gay?
I was like, well yes, but I don't really know what to do about it
and they were like, in you come.
And one of their friends and one of their cousins
worked behind the bar of Delmonicas in Glasgow
and I turned 18 in the January
and at the start of the February
I got a job as a weekend glass collector
because I was living with my gran and I needed two jobs.
Yeah, yeah
And I went out into the gay scene
The gay scene, being the gay scene
And you know, like
When you're in it
And when you're older
You can kind of go
Oh, it's about this and it's about that
But at that time when you don't know
Any other gay people
Yeah
That infrastructure
And you know
There's no internet
You can't find your community
Through the internet
No
No, no
Literally go to a woman's library
People reading poetry
I'm like
Oh this can't just be lesbians
this can he just be it?
And I used to have a joke.
So I talked about the perception
of how gay men were always killed off by AIDS, right?
And in 1980s television.
And then oranges are not the only fruit came on
and I'm like, fucking here comes the boobs, right?
No, it was not the boobs.
It comes the boobs.
Here come the boobs.
There were no boobs.
And I'm like, oh, boobs and bush, boobs and bush.
And then I get to the end of oranges is not the only fruit.
And I'm like, fuck sake, I think I'd rather go up the disco and get the AIDS, man.
This is terrible.
Because you're just like, they're having a fucking wheel of that time, man.
I'm going out with the boys.
I can really hard relate to this.
Like when I was trying to find women to sort of like be with that were lesbians,
it took me years to find my tribe.
It really did.
I think I was in my 30s before I did.
And it was because you'd.
People either looked livid.
Like you'd walk into a bar and women would just look angry.
You'd be like, Jesus Christ, I shouldn't be in here.
You know, or it was like really intense and serious
and let's talk about our feelings.
And I was like, can't we just like...
Can't we just like get pissed and have a laugh?
And then maybe I can get to fond of your tits at midnight.
Is that too much to ask?
Do you want to share a bag of chips?
Yeah, exactly.
It's always like...
And then if you get together with a girl by the end of the night,
she's already talking about wanting to have kids
and you're like, and she's kissing your eyelids
and you're like, I don't know you.
I don't know you well enough for this intensity.
We've gone from first to fifth gear too fast.
Honestly, it was like your second date,
there used to be a running joke that your first date
you'd meet in a pub and the second date,
you'd be the cat and dog home, right,
adopting a fucking pet.
I mean, it's not, it, that is like a trope,
but it is so true.
It's so true.
Let's move on to your next photo, Susie, because we've, we've, I think we've only done two.
So let's, what's the next one?
I want to, I want to kind of go to, and I don't know if this is the next picture, but you
in front of the Celtic football club.
That's a brilliant photo.
Yeah, so there's, it's me and my wife that was on the 3rd of September last year.
So we got married in the 3rd of September and our venue was actually around the corner from
where my Nana was brought up and about a mile from where.
where Nicola was brought up and it was called St Luke's and it's kind of bar and it's a, it's a venue
and they do weddings in it and it was great.
But in the June I'd done stuff for pride for Celtic, my beloved Celtic football club, right?
Oh my God, I adore them.
I don't care if you're the Rangers fan, right?
I don't care.
Look at Celtic and that's it.
And Celtic could see, though, when you're getting married and I told them and they went,
listen, if you're only down the road, you two and your photographer,
for jump up will give you access to the stadium for some pictures just the two of you.
And I was like that.
Oh, wow.
You joke.
What?
I stay a male and a half from Celtic Park right, so I can hear Celtic Park if it's like big, big game or whatever.
And I was like, no way, this is amazing.
And we sneaked away from our wedding for about half an hour, 45 minutes.
But on that day, our wedding had been booked 18 months in advance.
The fixtures just came out in the end of the June.
Rangers played Celtic at Ibrooks, right?
I was like
everybody's messaging
going,
mate,
what time's the kickoff
for your wedding
and I'm like,
you're fine,
you need to arrive
at four weddings
at five,
they're like,
I no bother
and I'm like,
oh,
Jesus, man.
And I'll arrange
your Celtic game
in the day
your wedding's no ideal
because you need to
stay sober for a start,
right?
And then,
and we went there.
It was a test.
You'd manifest it a test.
100%.
That's love.
100%.
I'm all right.
And Celtic 1.
Celtic 101 now.
And it's a
quite funny.
In Nicholas speech,
Nicola was like,
she's done this beautiful speech
and then she just turned and she went,
she looked me straight at the eye
and she just went,
and this day really just belongs
to one special person in my life
and that's Kyle will go through a hashie
because he had scored to go
my house.
But that must have made you love her even more.
I was that, fair, fair.
Because people are like,
oh, you know, you've got two great loves
of your life, you know,
Nicola and Celtic and I'm like no I was in that order
so yeah we get access to Celtic Park
with a kiss in the tunnel I was just it was it was
we were so fortunate so lucky nobody really gets to do that
you know and it was just we're both big Celtic fans I'm a bit more
fundamentalist but you know can you talk as so because there's another
picture of your wedding here why is everyone wearing a bucket hat
so we made our wedding and wear what you want wedding
right
Oh yeah, I didn't notice that.
Yeah, that's great.
Everybody's in bucket hats.
So we made our wedding a wear what you want wedding.
And so some people, obviously, Scottish weddings,
most guys wear kilts, right?
Right.
The full stuff.
Yeah.
If guys have got kilts, they'll put them on for their corporates or whatever.
We said, where would you want?
It was the 3rd of September.
The schools had been back three weeks.
People had been in holiday.
We were like, do not be spending money in an outfit.
I won't.
You haunt my wedding.
rather than you wear
a nice dress, right?
Just wear what you want.
So it was a wear what you want
but the exception was a bucket hat.
So everybody came in bucket hats.
It was genuinely,
I mean, there was a few dodgy Celtic ones
and a few dodgy Rangers ones, right?
But it was amazing.
And Nicola was like,
why don't we get everyone to wear a bucket hat?
Because that's so you.
That's so you.
And I was like...
That's so 90s.
I've never left.
So 90s.
I'm just steaming in 96.
97 man it was peak
McCabe
It was a great time
It was
So we
We done that
And you know what
Everyone absolutely embraced it
And there was people with dresses
And like all done up
With her hair and everything like that
And then a bucket hat
Because a bucket hat
Makes everything ridiculous right
It is a very humbling garment
A bucket hat
100%
And it was that kind of
This is the vibe for our wedding
So we didn't do a sit down meal
we'd done a big massive buffet
in the venue
the venue is beautiful
because it's an old church
we had got them to
I was like
how much is a pint
and they were like
four quid
and I was like
that's fine
because I don't want people
come to a wedding
and paying a fortune
I just want you to come
and have a party with us
because we're fun
we're a fun couple
so because it was
the old kind of church
that's had the balcony
upstairs
and then we had 10 tables
of 10 downstairs
and then it was just a big massive stage
with the old kind of organ backdrop
and the DJ was in the pool pit
the DJ was in the pool pit
he had his bucket hat on
our first song was the Fratellis version
of a yes sir I can boogie
which is a
you can boogie all night long
that's it right which is always like a big anthem
for the Scotland national team right
that's the yes sir I can boogie
so we went for the Fratellis version
which is incredible.
And then our second dance was
you got the love by Florence and the machine.
And then it just, and then it was,
everyone was like,
that music you're waiting because we literally said to the DJ,
that's it.
So it was like Bob Seeger, old time rock and roll,
was the sixth song after that, you know?
Yeah, just keep that floor full all night.
Just keep it going.
And it was absolutely dynamite.
It was amazing.
When did you two meet?
So we actually met at a gig,
so we knew the same people.
So she was,
like nothing happened
she was with someone
she was sitting in the front row
and it was actually a fundraiser
for my mate who had died
which was the whole reason
I get into comedy
it was a fundraiser for Maggie's
cancer care
and she was front row
with her girlfriend
and I was the host
and that was fine
and then every now and then
she'd send me a wee message
on Twitter or something
we talk about the football
blah blah blah
and then a year and a half
later
I bumped into her
and I was like, oh, how's your, who's your
my season? She was like, oh, yeah, we split up.
And I was like, all right, she's like, how's your wife?
And I was like, oh, yeah, me yeah, split up.
And she was like, oh.
And I was like, yeah, yeah.
And then we just kind of like, we'd meet for a dog walk
and we do stuff like that.
And then we just kind of spent time together
and mentioned what, but we kind of really like each other.
I was like, I really like you.
And I really like you, but I don't want to ruin a friendship
and, you know, you're out of marriage and a very long.
long-term relationship and blah blah blah and I was like
I you know but how are you going to go and feel
because if I see you going a date I don't know how happy I'll be
about that
that's the barometer yeah I was like I don't know
I don't want you to be with anyone else don't want you talking to me
about somebody that you're chatting to you online no it's not that type of
friendship I'm putting in the groundwork yet and she was like well to be
fair you know because I've been doing like a
see a French preview in the stand or something like that.
And she came down and a girl who gave me her number after it
and she was like, I was ready to punch her on the face.
I feel like that's a good barometer.
Yeah, exactly.
Those are the feelings that are the clues.
Susie, what two last photos I'd really love to talk to you about.
The first one you've got is you and Jarvis.
Great picture.
Firstly, I fucking love this photograph.
What's going on?
Was this at a gig?
Yeah, so actually on my wall, I'll send you a picture of it, right?
I'll send you a picture.
On my wall, there is a signed pulp lp, a wristband, a pass, and a plectrum.
Jarvis's plaque.
Right.
And I was hosting Edinburgh Hugminne in Princess Street Gardens.
So I'm doing like gigs in the 27th or like 28th,
and we were off the 30th
and Nicola came through, we were staying in a hotel
and 31st. So you go down and do your sound check and all that
and that's amazing. And you're in your week and a compound
and Jarvis is just right across from me. And that day
we had been up Princess Street and out of HMV and I'd got
the different class album now. I've got the album on CD, I've got it to my phone
Mike so one of my mates for school
bought me for my 16th birthday and I've still
get that CD and
I was like, I can't, I can't believe it's pulp
I can I believe it's pulp, I cannot believe it's pulp
right, like oh my God, like a soundtrack
so you've got 10,000 people in the gardens
and then on Princess Street you've got
about 45,000 people
the full length of the street
and there's TV screens every 500 yards,
massive screens and then
down at Waverly Station
just along from the gardens
they had another stage there
and stuff going on.
Now, what normally happens is
only the people in the gardens
get to see the headliner, right?
Because the headliner goes,
oh no, it's only people in the gardens
because they've paid the money.
Pulp went,
hey, get it to everybody.
Don't care.
As long as everybody's a good time.
So they get blasted through the TV screens
because normally what would happen
is they're there for.
Everybody sees everything.
up to the headliner and then
everyone sees a new year
and then the headliner comes back on
and then people kind of disperse
but no not this year Jarvis
and that were like yeah no I just let everybody
watch it obviously
oh wow couldn't love that man anymore what legends
and they done calming people and at one
point during common people they brought out
two pipers two pipers
came out of the stage with pipes
to common people right their place
went bananas
like absolute
full-blowing
bananas
and after it
we were in the compound
and Alan one of the organisers
who used to work at assembly
Alan
was like
give me an album
and then shouted me out
and Nicola was like
she absolutely loves you
and I promise you she won't sell this
this will be framed
and put in our house
and he signed it
and made a chat
and he was just
everything you wanted
and needed him to be
just honestly
honestly what a guy, but what an ex- like if you had told 14-year-old little closeted lesbian stoner,
you're going to do a job one day when you get to talk and meet Jarvis Cocker.
I'd have been like, I'm guessing it was rubbish, do you know what I mean?
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Okay, well we've got a video.
We've got a video here from Billy Connolly.
Talk to us about this video.
So at the Glasgow Comedy Festival, they give out an award,
and it's called the Spirit of Glasgow Award.
And what happens is there's a panel of kind of great and the good of Scottish comedy,
not really suck it like people like Elaine C. Smith and all that.
And people that have written iconic Scottish sitcoms, people like Greg Hemphill,
write, stuff like that.
and you get a nomination out of six
and they do a massive gala at the end of the Comedy Festival
and the six people who are nominated,
they're all there and they get announced
that it was me, which meant the world to me.
And then they turn you around and Billy had done a video.
There was a couple of things he said and he went,
this is a message for
Susie McCabe so first of all
Billy Conley said your name right so I'm a
I'm a wreck
he's like I watched your stuff
in the television and I actually laughed out loud
and then tells you your joke
that you laughed at
like it oh wow
and then you know he goes
you do that wonderful Glasgow thing
you've got that Glasgow humour thing
where you just lecture your audience right
and I was like
aye aye
yeah
that's fucking funny
me.
And now, bear in mind the king,
steeros packed to the rafters
for this afternoon gala, right?
Packed.
And he's like,
ah,
and you made me laugh
and you made me this and he's a wee dog jumps up.
Oh, the wee dog wants a bit of attention, right?
And he was just Billy.
And at the end of it, he said,
Susie, you're brilliant.
He went, keep doing it for women
and keep doing it for the lesbians.
And I was like,
this man
this man is the hippie
socialist lefty
that he's always been
do you know what I mean
and I was just
my heart was like
jumping out my chest
Billy Conley
they let me use that video as well
I've got a quote from him on my fringe
poster and I'm just like
he said oh Susie you blew me sideways
with your comedy and that
is someone who listened to the records
who can recite the crucifixion
who can recite the incontinence pants
who can still watch an audience
with Billy and still have tears
running down my face for the comedy
is just and I've read all these books
and my heart swells
and listen and see like I swear to God
controversial as this may sound
see when Billy Conley dies
Scotland will go into mourning more than what they did
when a monarch died right I swear to God
oh for sure
yeah that's proper national
national mourning for Scotland and he is
he's an incredible ambassador
for this city and I
I love Glasgow
I know it's good
it's false and I know that there's wops and all
but I love Glasgow
and I love Scotland and I love
the people
and he really epitomises
everything that's great
in this city and I just
what an honour so I've got his award
up there actually we can go
a wee I got the tattoo
oh wow
oh Susie you've got a Billy Connolly tattoo
You right, that is it.
So that's Billy's own self-portrait that he done
and gave it to the award that you get, the Glass Award.
So it's a real eye.
And as I showed you as earlier before we came on,
although I've got a wee mural of all the different Billy Connoes
through the years.
Yeah, I just absolutely adore the man.
So the fact that he saved my name, he knew my name.
And of course, what team does Billy support?
The class goes Celtics, right?
As does Kevin Frankie meet.
It's almost like we're funnier.
We made it a little bit easier to love them, wouldn't it?
Tell us when your show is?
When is your show?
So it's Studio 3 up at George Square Gardens at Assembly,
and it's 745.
We've put on extra daytime shows on the Saturdays.
And also that venue has got an accessibility lift.
so if you have got access issues
because the fringe is not really the place.
And then you're going to tour it?
I'll do it in the autumn.
I'm just going to do a wee small kind of Scottish one,
kind of bigger rooms in Scotland
because I'll be writing a show for Glasgow again next year, you know.
So if people want to see you, have you got a website,
they can find that way of your place.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Susie McCabe.com, you can just jump on there.
I'm on Insta, Susie McCabe comedy.
I'm not on the X or the Twitter.
No, me neither.
Fuck that.
It's a bit fire, man.
in Facebook if you're like over 40.
And you can listen to Susie with Christopher MacArthur Boyd and Frankie Boyle.
Here comes the guillotine.
And you can get that wherever you.
It's a riot.
Listen, don't expect structure.
It's really good.
Don't expect it's really good.
I have to say, it's actually one of my favorites.
Oh, thanks, me.
And I really, really enjoy it.
And also, don't, don't listen to it if you're easily offended or can't take a joke.
Susie, it's so lovely to meet you properly.
Thanks so much for...
Thank you so much.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye, bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
I'm going to play tennis now with Frank.
I'm going.
I've got that.
You play tennis?
Yeah.
Well, not, I mean, not to any standard, but, you know, it's a school holiday.
But you can hit it.
I know what I'm doing.
I've got a racket.
But it's just cool holidays, isn't it?
So we find ourselves, this is the love language of parenting.
I'm now playing tennis.
Yeah.
So.
Yep, yep. We're going camping today and you know how much I love camping.
So that's my love language.
Talk me through what gear, what gear have you got?
What do you mean?
Camping gear, camping gear, babe.
You know I've got all the gear.
Have I got any of your gear?
Because oftentimes I end up picking up a bit of it.
Chloe is insistent that you've got some of our gear.
I don't know.
Some of those blue plates.
Because we haven't got any.
I've got four.
I've always had four.
I've never not had four.
Well, then I don't know.
I don't know.
I haven't got my van anymore.
My brother's got my van.
So I can't even.
Have you given your van away?
I've given it to my brother for the summer, so we'll see.
Oh, you've given it away.
I kind of have, yeah, for now.
You have.
You look pleased.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
You've offloaded in a burden.
I'm torn about the van because I was like going to sell it and then we went to Glastonbury
and I was like, I do like it.
I do like it.
I loved all the noises it makes.
I love it.
Yeah, it's loud.
It's lots of different noises.
Yeah, it's loud.
Really loud.
Some noises that I didn't expect to come out of a van.
But anyway, we're going.
Okay, you're going camping.
Where are you going?
Could have been me.
Sussex, we're just going to Sussex Way.
How long four?
Three nights.
We're going with a bunch of us.
There's a gang of us.
Oh, you're going in one of your gangs, aren't you?
You've got so many gangs.
It's the same gang, Kerry.
It's not a different gang.
It's always the same gang.
You always go, oh, really.
I'm quite jealous of this gang.
It's just the same gang.
And all our kids are the same age, they go.
We've got bicycles on the back.
There's a huge amount of space for the kids to cycle.
Sounds idyllic.
And have their own space and not be near us.
And they feel like they've got their own freedom.
Sounds idyllic, Jen.
It is idyllic for them.
It is very, it's very idyllic for them.
It's a practical logistical nightmare that actually I don't know why I'm taking any responsibility for.
Because as we all know, Chloe has done the entire 100%.
of the mental and physical and logistical load.
You haven't done anything.
All you have to turn up is sit in a camping chair and not break anyone's glasses.
That's your brief.
I've got to stick the stuff in the car.
I've got to sit.
That's Tetris.
And then I've got to unpack the car and put the tent up and all of that.
I can be practical.
Not very often, admittedly.
Not my strong suit.
But I will be there.
And this we're putting up a 10.
What a low bar.
I will be there.
I will be there.
I will be there standing next to my partner.
You'll bring the lulls.
Yeah.
I'll bring the good times.
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