Memory Lane with Kerry Godliman and Jen Brister - S03 E44: Alex Horne

Episode Date: December 25, 2024

"I had a really relaxed sphincter for the whole festival..." This week we have the brilliant comedian, musician and Taskmaster creator @littlealexhorne on the pod! We chatted about Alex's first snog at Eurocamp, Reading festival, Smoking (not smoking), Meeting the Pope and working in China. If you want to see Alex live - He's touring the Horne Section throughout 2025! Get your tickets if there are any left available. We also have Kerry and Jen talking about Christmas, Producer Joel's daughter (Wonder Woman), trying to teach your children and how Jen decided to sing at one a gig! Kerry's tour is on sale now - https://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/kerry-godliman-tickets/artist/1866728 PHOTO 1: 'Smoking' in Cambridge PHOTO 2: Eurocamp holidays PHOTO 3: Mates with Ben and Reading Festival PHOTO 4: TEFL in China PHOTO 5: Meeting the Pope PICS & MORE - https://www.instagram.com/memory_lane_podcast/ A Dot Dot Dot Production produced by Joel Porter Hosted by Jen Brister & Kerry Godliman Distributed by Keep It Light Media Sales and advertising enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Cheryl, on her poster was dressed as Wonder Woman. Very similar to your daughter right now. A lot of regret, a lot of regret. Do you regret that poster? I do actually. Don't you regret old posters? Where you go, what the fuck was I thinking? I mean, my first poster,

my hair was so bad I looked like I was wearing a hat It is I don't know where that poster is now Kerry But I remember at the time Some the internet surely Is it pre-internet? No no it's kind

Yeah it's sort of pre-internet It is pre-internet I'm sure I wish my Wonder Woman was pre-internet But anyway I had bad hair at the time I was growing it long Because I just got together with Chloe And I was trying to convince her parents

I wasn't a scary lesbian So I grew my hair How did that pan out? what about being scary lesbian well yeah I mean that's still the jury's out actually also it's fair to say that we were pretty we were pretty low profile at the time

so I mean I'm gonna go to I've got so far as to say that we weren't even on anyone's radar at all there was no radar even if you had a radar you wouldn't have picked us up no it would have like gone over us going but unfortunately my Wonder Woman year internet absolute internet just kicked in I keep thinking someone's behind me

There's no one behind me. Maybe my house is haunted. It's because there's someone behind Joel. It's because there's someone behind Joel. And it's Wonder Woman, which is wonderful. People listening to this won't know that Wonder Woman keeps appearing. And it's a really good appearance as well. It's like the door frame is a stage, it's the cross arch.

Yeah. And Wonder Woman keeps crossing it in her, don't look at me, but I am here. Don't look at my face. I'm shy. Yeah. And I'm really distracted because she's going to come back. Yeah. Yeah.

She's making it. I love it. She's great. I feel like that's going to keep happening and I'm here for that. Yeah. Hello and welcome to Memory Lane. I'm Jen Bristair and I'm Kerry Godleman. Each week we'll be taking a trip down Memory Lane with our very special guest as they bring in four photos from their lives to talk about. To check out the photos we'd be having a natter with them about, they're on the episode image and you can also see them a little bit more clearly on our Instagram page. So have a little look at Memory Lane podcast. Come on, we can all be nosy together.

Neither of us are listening to each other because we keep waiting to see if Wonder Woman's going to walk behind. I hope she does. If she does, that will make my Christmas. Speaking of Christmas, are you ready to go? Yeah, I'm almost too ready. I've done it all now and I'm over it. This is the problem with people that get it done too soon.

You're like, oh shit, you just left with your personality for the whole of mid-December. Well, can you not take it like, okay? No, I am fine. Relax a bit. And then I'm relaxed. To carols in the kitchen. I bet you do that. Are you baking?

I made a soup. Oh, I love soup. That's not baking, is it? But I made a soup. It's not. I made a soup for the ladies who lunched the other day that came around. I made a nice soup and... Great.

So that was the only food I did. The only food you did. And Sarah didn't bring olives. I very much picked that up. But Lucy Porter baked a for catcher. So... What? Sorry.

Sorry, Wonder Woman's back. She's back. She's got a wand. What's she going to do with it? Oh, she's off again. She's gone. Anyway, it was very nice, and Lucy Porter baked her for ketchup.

And I'm still trying to find out the flavour of your soup, Kerry. Oh, yeah, the soup. It was sort of... Sort of? What was it? I don't know. It was like root vegetables and kale and a bit of paprika. It was like a stewy situation.

Oh, I mean to eat meat, you probably would have put chorizo in it, but I don't. And it had some poy lentils in it. I found the recipe online. That sounds great. I'm into it. Yeah, it was fine. My mum used to make every vegetarian soup with a lump of pork in it.

I'd go, Mom. She was like, it's your friend vegetarian. And I said, yes, but I can see in the soup, mum, that there is a big lump of what looks like a bone of pork or something. She's like, yeah. And I went, well, she's vegetarian. She went, I'll take it out. She won't notice. I was like, that's not really the point, Mom.

What you have given is a soup? Wonder Woman's back. Oh, she's gone again. It's a soup steeped in boiled meat. And you're going to give that to a vegetarian. There's a whole generation of people that were just not getting on board with vegetarianism. My mum was one of them. She just was not willing to give.

She was totally fine with the gay thing. But if I'd gone veggie, she would have lost her shit. Did you ever go veggie? You've always flirted with it but never committed. I did six months. Okay. I did six months. You didn't like it, did you?

It's going to make me sound like a really bad person. person, but I didn't like it. I didn't. Listen, I'm going to not lie to you. The first three months absolutely filled with being smug. I feel like the way I do when I don't drink for three weeks, I'm like, oh my God, I am. Is that the longest you've gone three weeks? No, the longest I went was when I had COVID, long COVID. So that was months. That was months. I didn't drink. But then I didn't even want to drink because I was dizzy. And the last thing I wanted was booze. So that doesn't really count. It does count. I didn't. drink for three months.

It's like when people say I didn't do when I was pregnant. I was like, yeah. You don't drink when you're pregnant. Well, I feel like it counted. No, sure. Okay. Okay. Outside of that, a month is the longest.

And that I really, by the end of it, was like, this has got to end. I've got to have a drink soon. I can't be in any more social situations completely sober. What I realized was, and this is not a good, I'm not proud of this in any way, I have a drink problem. I didn't know where that was going. I think that I can't be in a social situation completely sober. And I don't think that's a good thing.

But it's a good thing to know about yourself, isn't it? Because I can work towards it. I can work towards that. I can work towards being like, I can be in a social situation. I don't mean like meeting for coffee or anything. I just mean like, you know, I don't mean like I've got a hit flask out going to go,

sorry, Kerry, I'm going to have to soften the edges of whatever this chat is. I mean, you know, when you go to like, a party or if you go to one of those I remember parties yeah do you remember parties or even worse this horrendous award ceremonies I can't do those sober if I've got to do dry chit chat with people I don't know

I probably don't like let's lube up with a bit of booze yeah I hear you I'm at the other side of that I don't go to anything what do you feel at those events when you're completely aware I don't go to them anymore I don't go to them I'm literally through, I feel like I've gone through the Rubicon and now I'm on the other side in a kind of like, I'm not going to go to that, don't want to go to that.

Yeah, I think I don't go to anything as well. And I think that's just so I don't make my drink problem worse. I think that's the way forward in order to mitigate my alcoholism. I do it. Sometimes I do it. I'm like that granny in royal family that says she doesn't drink. Have you seen that clip, it's gone viral. Listen, this is what I'm doing now.

I'll take an Instagram off my phone. Take an Instagram off. That's the new me. Great. Talking of addictions and fuck-ups. Good for you. That's got a go. That's got to go.

There's no good comes from that. It's too much. No, Kerry, I am always, and I mean this sincerely, I admire the choices that you make. Because every time you tell, I'm like, oh, that actually really makes sense. Like, I'm not drinking anymore. Oh, that makes sense. I've taken Instagram off my phone.

That makes complete sense. I don't go to these boring events. Yes, of course. Oh yeah, there's that. There's that option. I'm sure I will put it back on my phone maybe. And it's still on my other devices, but I'm not going to sit on a bus scrolling anymore.

No, but it's okay to have it on the other devices because those aren't leaving the house with you and you still need to do, you've still got to do whether you like it. You've got to do a bit of that PR because you've got a tour coming up. So you have to do a bit. But not being on it all the time. You don't need to be on it. You don't.

You're so bad. Post, what we need to do is drop, drop and leave. Drop and leave. Drop and leave. Drop and leave. I posted it. Boom. Go. Off you go. Don't look. Don't check. Don't see. Maybe even unfollow everyone and only drop and leave. That is maybe the answer. Like don't follow.

Don't follow. I do think that people that don't follow anyone, I just think are narcissistic psychopaths. That's just a little thought that comes to pop into my head. Yeah. I just think, what the fuck? So you want all of us to follow you, but you don't follow you. but you don't follow anyone. Go fuck yourself. That's what, that's just, that's a little thought

that pops into my head. I'm not saying that's everyone. Something to think about. It's just, it's just the juxtaposition of all the crazy shit next to each other. So all the horrors of the world, next to the women that knit with their arms,

next to the fermentation, it's like, fucking hell. I've got to, I've got to get off. This is, I can't, my brain. I can't do this. I can't do this. I can't deal with extreme drama

and the arm knitting. ladies next to each other in the same space. It is a lot. I have to say though, I am grateful for the arm knitting ladies. I think you introduce me to that because they are really joyful. Yeah. Yeah. I think we do need them. I know that I needed that. But the thing is now I'm over, I'm now again, is it over the light. I want to be literally in the room with those ladies now. Litting with arms. Yeah, knitting with my arms. I don't want to just watch them on the internet anymore. I want to be with them. You can't, you, you can't

not, because you're a knitter. No, I can't really know. I'm not very good knitter. What about crochet? Can you do that? No, too hard. Right, it's too hard. Yeah, everyone says that. Chloe tried it and she literally needs to stab it. My mum couldn't do it. She's tried to teach me and we nearly stabbed each other with the you. You know when your mum tried to teach you a thing? It's too much going on for mothers and daughters. You're like, oh my God, don't tell me what to do. She's like, you asked me to show you how to crochet.

Yeah, I always used to feel like that about my mum, I said to my mum, oh, let's speak Spanish. I said, I really need to improve my Spanish. So my mom was like, I'll always speak to you in Spanish. So we're speaking in Spanish and I'll speak back to her and then she'll go, she'll corrects my grammar and I'm like, oh, never mind. Never mind. Such a dick. That is a perfect mother daughter. Yeah, what an asshole. Spiral. Yeah. My mom was, was, is an Alexander teacher and I went to drama school and they taught it there. And I remember being in a lesson and the woman saying to me, have you ever heard of Alexander technique? It's your posture.

And I went, yeah, my mum is an Alexandra teacher. And the woman went, wow. Really? You should have some lessons with your mum. Whenever my mum tried to give me Alexander lessons, she's like, okay, drop your shoulders. No, just stand back off. I don't think we can take instruction. for my parents.

What's that about? I don't know. But I mean, I, my boys were, I'm trying to get them to realize that they're not good at everything because they've got to that age where they've suddenly started to realize

that there's some things that were right. That's a great moment because you go, all this stuff, I can drop this. Yes, yes. And there's a couple of things where they're like,

and they're dropping everything like stones and I'm like, okay, but there are certain things that you just need to continue. Yes. Because you are good at those things. Because you are good. good at it, but you're not the best at it.

And the only way you can get better at it is to keep doing it. So that's what I'm trying to teach them. And I must have given an ad one too many anecdotes about my, because you know, when I started in comedy, I wasn't very good at it. And then I kept on going. And then the last time I did it, they went, oh God, we know. You kept on going and now you're doing it as a job. Oh my God.

How many times? And I thought, oh yeah, I might have milked that a bit too much. So I can't pull that out anymore Because honestly the eye rolls And I thought Christ I think I may have mentioned that three times But I must have done it a bit more than that But

Guys it's really important to pursue your dreams Look at me And they're like oh yeah You're not really happy Yeah It's really upsetting when you realise You've bought the shit out of your kids Do you know what my children said to me

And I've been carrying this around with me For several weeks They said to me Oh, Mama, you are deeply irritating. Oh, Jen. And I said, I said no more irritating than Mummy. And they went, oh no, you are way more irritating.

Oh, Jen, that's such harsh feedback from your own kids. And I stood there in the kitchen, I went, sure, but far. Oh, did you cry? Well, I would just, I was like bewildered. Yeah, it's awful. I'd pry. I stood by the sink blinking like this. But also lots of fun, right?

They were like, yeah, but really. irritating. And I said, what do you mean by deeply irritating? It's not complicated. You think repetition's really funny. You do this thing where you do loud clapping and you think that's hilarious, which I do. I think loud clapping in a room when no one wants it is really

funny. So they kept listing things and then, you know what? But Kerry, at the end of it, I realized... This is like a bad Guardian review. It's a really bad Guardian review. It's like Brian Logan just went, this is the biggest part of shit I've ever seen in my life. I got to the end of it and I would, you know what I realized? I am deeply irritating. Oh, Jen.

What a wake-up call. Jen. What a wake-up call. No. I got halfway through and I went, oh God, that is quite irritating. But I stand by everything. I said, I don't care. I stand by it.

Because also, when I've done all of those things, you have all laughed. Yeah, but now you know they're not laughing out of mirth. They're laughing out of pity. Well, they're also, they, no, I think what happens is there. Look at the denial. Look at the denial. I'm a stout comedian. You're blinking.

You're doing loads of blinking. I'm a stand-up comedian, of course. This is like, I've come out of a room from an audience. I've clearly not enjoyed me and I've said, I think there's something wrong with the lights. Does anyone feel like the acoustics aren't working in this room? Because I think there's something wrong with the acoustics. The audience is just like...

That room is broken. Guys, good luck out there because it's a tough. The next comedian comes out, absolutely smashes it. Well, they've obviously done something with the sound. Okay. It's something to carry with me over the Christmas period. Oh, God. Also, because you've got twins, it's like you've got it in stereo.

You've got feedback in stereo. We've got feedback in stereo. And they really enjoyed telling me. They really enjoyed it. They really love winding you up, didn't they, your boys? There was absolute glee. And I went, but also a lot of fun. And I kept adding that, and they went, but also deeply irritating.

Wonder Woman's back. Wonder Woman just went by. Oh, gosh. There we go. Something to take into 2025, Kerry. Oh, Jen. I feel like there's a lot of pathos and humor in that. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, I'm going to try to lean into the humour. Yeah, no, sure. The humour is the best way to go. And I once was singing in the kitchen with real gusto. Yeah, as you should. Yeah. And then Ben and Elsie both looked at each other in that kind of way. Like we've talked about this, haven't we? And then both, well, else nodded. And then Elsie went, Mum, stop singing. Just stop.

And I was like, what? They were like, we just, it's too much. It's too much. Ben's made me cry. Ben's made me cry before about my singing. He's like, oh God, it's awful. He thought he was being sort of like a throwaway comment. Like, oh, no, it's awful.

And I was like, what? Oh, Kerry. What do you mean it's awful? And they're like, yeah, you can't sing. And now I don't sing. I think you should keep singing. I think what happened there is they're overwhelmed by your enthusiasm. enthusiasm is only takes you so far it's the absence of any skill or talent that's the fundamental problem i mean i can't i can't sing i can't hold a tune and now because it's christmas i'm really going for it all right let's do this

kerry for our christmas spectacular christmas day special christmas who are we speaking to well as a christmasy tree it's the wonderful alex horn wowsers I know. Wowzers, trousers. What a gift we're giving. What a gift we're giving to Alex. This is, yes, we've packaged it and now we've unpacked it. We've boxed it and then we unboxed it. And the reveal is Alex Horn. You're welcome, by the way.

This was a thoroughly enjoyable conversation. A relaxed chat with a lovely man of comedy. With the OG Taskmaster. And the OG Taskmaster. He is the Master of the Tasks, Alex Horn. I loved your photographs. Oh, thank you. I enjoyed doing it. I don't know. I guess I did the normal thing of what your guests do, which is WhatsApp your mum. And then she's spiraled for a week. Yeah. Got every photo.

I'm very modern to have a mum to WhatsApp. Some people haven't even got a mum on WhatsApp. Like who? Go old school and ring their mum and their mum has to go into a loft and get like an acoustic box of pictures out. An acoustic. I said to my mum, I've got to. pictures, you just need three. I don't care what. They just sent me no more than three and she sent me about 100. Yep. Oh, did she? Are they those surprises? They were, actually, I really enjoyed it. But then I had to whittle them down to three. So it took both of us far longer than it should have. But it was a fun process and now we've got the photos. But you didn't start too young with these photographs, did you?

I thought there's no like baby photographs of you when you're really little. You started. It's quite a range. Yeah. Teenage. Yeah. Which one would you say is the first? I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I I know for a fact which year is the first one. Okay, go for which. My mum sent me years. So it's the one where I'm smoking is the youngest one. That's 1990. How old are you there?

What? 15? 12. It is a chocolate cigarette. And my mother... My parents thought it was so funny. My parents were... You know when they're proud of their kids being a bit...

When I got a tattoo, they were quite pleased, really, because we're quite nerdy. And so they thought this is cool. Let's take a picture of our son smoking. It's what are those chocolate? ones wrapped in with that paper that was really hard to take off. But not a bad smoking technique. Great smoking technique.

That really does look like your smoking ice. Because there were two types of cigarettes you could get. These ones were my favourite, which are the chocolate wrapped in paper. Those were the absolute bangers. But you could get the white ones with the little pink dye at the end. And those were also like your candy sticks. And you'd get like a Superman card. Yeah.

They were quite thin, weren't they? They were more like cigarrillas. They were more like cigarettes. I love. absolutely love to those pretending to smoke. I mean, the tobacco companies must have been like, let's get these out. Let's get these candy sticks out. Get the kids starting to really enjoy it. Get the feel of it in the fingers.

Yeah. It's bad for you in both ways, isn't it? Because it's not like chocolate's great for kids, but it's not bad. But yeah, getting the habit. Especially when you suck on it around the teeth. Get in the habit. Yeah. By the time you were smoking one at like 14, 15, you're like, I've been doing this for 10 years,

mate. Yeah. You're on holiday here, aren't you? This is a holiday picture. I am sort of on holiday. Do you know where I am? Cambridge? I'm in Cambridge.

Well done, Jen. So this is my parents took us to Cambridge because they did love it and I think they pretty much met there. So this is on a punt going around Cambridge for the first time where I ended up seven years later where I met my wife as well.

So yeah, it sort of... Oh, is that right? Oh, my God. So you study in there, Alex? Well, Latin and Greek. Oh, my God. Wow. Alex.

I didn't know that. Yeah. Why? That's wild. Ancient Greek. to me. Yeah, so classics, it's cool. So it's Latin, Greek, philosophy, archaeology. Yeah. So was it always going to be like that's likely where Alex will apply to go? That was kind of No, I don't think so. So my older brother didn't. I actually applied to go to Oxford, but got turned away.

Then I applied to go to Cambridge and got turned away and got picked up by a little college, which is how it works. So, no, it wasn't the plan, and I just scraped in. But I think my granny went to Cambridge. She was one of the first women. And when she went, women couldn't get degrees. So she got her degree, I think, in like late 90s. They did this ceremonial thing. What was her degree in? It would have been something like archaeology. So women could go to university.

They could study. They could do all of the years, do all of the things, exams and everything. But at the end of it, they weren't gifted with a degree. Yes. Flipping heck. Why? That's absolutely bat shit. How the fuck did Cambridge justify that?

I agree with your rage. No, it's insane, isn't it? And I don't know when they changed it. That's wild. I mean, they changed it quite a long time ago. So when my dad was there, that's when women were first admitted, I think, properly were given their degrees. And that, yeah, they did the ceremonial thing of women who were then in their 80s getting their degrees at some point. So she had to had some procession and it was all great.

But yeah, no, it's mad, isn't it? I mean, who's this kid? Tell us about this 12-year-old. Well, what's quite nice. I've got a 12-year-old of my own. And I guess I can sort of see some of him in me there. That's my favourite top of my entire childhood. I was so proud of it.

It's a great top. I got it in a market on another holiday somewhere. And I wore it all the time. It was quite a bold choice, I think, for a 12-year-old. Very yellow. And it's a hoodie. Before hoodies were cool, I think. I think I was the first one.

All of it, the whole outfit. The trainers, the socks, the fake smoking, that looks like real smoking. You've definitely observed and replicated smoking. Yeah, the look down the camera is not bad. It was a happy year, definitely. I think I've picked happy photos. Why was it a happy year?

Tell us about that year. Well, it's a good question. So I went to normal state school and then got sent away when I was 11 to private school, I guess, so I could go to Cambridge. Boarding? Yeah. Where did you board at? Near you, Lansing College. You will have driven past it a million times.

Wow, that is a very impressive building. Like when you drive past it on the A27, it's like, wow, it's like Hogwarts. It's the biggest chapel in Europe. It's the biggest school chapel in Europe. It's got the biggest rose window in the world, which obviously as a kid you do not care about in the slightest. But yeah, so it is like Hogwarts. I took my kids around. And that was a happy memory to get in there and get to go.

No, this was a year after that, I think. So I was finally settled. It wasn't an easy transition. It wasn't bad transition. But I think now this is a summer after that. And now I'm happy, Kim. Also, you're not like going like the kind of, you know, the horror stories of boarding when they're from seven. So by the time, yeah, there was a bit more.

It was all right. It's still very young. My kids are 10. I think if I had to send them away in a year, I would really struggle with that. I mean, I'm saying I would struggle with that. I think they would struggle because they're still babies. Yeah, I can't imagine sending mine away. But there are times I think, God, imagine if they were all at boarding school.

Wouldn't that be great? We've all had those moments. Yeah, we've had those days, for sure, for sure. Probably changes your relationship with your parents forever. But not necessarily in a bad way, because it's not like they're, always present if you're not at boarding school. And so maybe it's more intense when you go home and actually they make more of an effort. I don't know.

But there's something about being sent away, which is quite odd. And what are the logistics of it in terms of home life? Like you keep your own bedroom and everything. I mean, I assume you then went straight to Cambridge and left home and never went back. So in a way, you left home at 11. Well, we'll come back to that with a later photo. Ooh. Oh.

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I'm popping out of a tent. Yeah. I've got that down. I've got that down as 1991. So it's between, it might have been 13. I'm on the verge of 13 of teenagerness. And who's that in the picture with you? That is a guy called Ben, who's in the horn section, who we still are best friends today. So he and Joe were my little best friends from when we were born, we're born in the same town, went to the same primary school, and our moms are still best friends. So I'm seeing him Thursday. Oh wow. Yeah, it's very sweet.

Yeah, he's the drummer in the band. And this was us practicing how fast we can put a tent up, which we did for most of them. When was a picture taken? Is this like quite far into the process? That's in my back garden. Yeah, that's, I think that's thinking, yeah, this is, we could beat the record here. This is pretty quick. That's such a kid. That's the kind of thing my brothers would do. They would time themselves doing absolutely everything. Let's see how fast we can do this. Let's see how many times we can throw a frisbee. Let's see, it's like, fuck it, you know, you nerds.

Yeah. But I think there's a time. You have made a very good job out of setting tasks. Well, quite often people do ask, it's just what you were like when you're a kid. And I sort of realized it, I think it was. And everything was a game. So if we were late, you know, we didn't have mobile phones, obviously, or there was no train station where we lived. So we had to get the bus a lot. So we spent a lot of time waiting for the bus. And you would always invent a game, like throwing a stone to hit another stone or some way of passing the time.

And that was a... I love that. But I think that also, we then went to Reading a few years later, me and my first. friends and so that tent spent a lot of childhood with me. Did you have more success putting it up when you got to Redding than you are in this picture? Kerry this is a vital stage that the the frame went within the I don't know what I'm doing there but I think it's an old no I really want to know about this because I am a camping enthusiast. Oh no don't this is a rabbit house. I love tents Alex. My favorite shop is in Godston and it's a whole tent universe it's like toys are us of

tent and you go down there and they've got them all pitched and you can go in them and open the windows I wouldn't mind going there with you. Yeah, I'll go there. Oh, Alex, some have got porches. Some have got extension wings. You can get a 10 bedroom tent, a tiny tent. Yeah. A tent within a tent.

Inflatable tents, but don't go down there. I think avoid the inflatable tents. This is a very standard. I've got an inflatable tent and don't hate me, but we've got on those tents that you pump up. Does it, instead of having... Does it solve everything? Is it so easy?

No, it's an absolute ball. We've got one as well. They're amazing to get up, but they're real ball-a-ball eight to get down. because you have to do this thing where you roll when you put a tent down we've got I think it's a hack but maybe everyone's doing it where you make your life partner in my case roll around on it roll they put on a mac or an outdoor coat and so depending on the mud situation it's either successful or not and they roll they body roll over yeah all the air that's what we do I body roll it except so I that's I'm Chloe does all the packing she packs a tent she does everything she's a machine okay so she is the queen of camping so we're can't camp without her because she's got a list. I'm the queen. I'm the queen of camp. Okay, sorry. She's the, I'm the queen of camp. Quick queen in waiting. You can have two queens.

Can you? You can actually? There are loads of queens. That's up the whole hierarchy. We're in different provinces. In different provinces. Everyone can't be queens. That's the point of queens. Okay. Well, listen, can she be like the princess? She can be a princess. Okay, fine. Anyway, we've really, so we've really gone off piece here. But all I was going to say is that's my job is to put the tent up and to take the tent down. And so I do the rolling. And it says on the instructions. Are you this guy? Are you like

Alex? Like you're having Japes and not focusing? No, but this is the thing. I can only put up one tent. I, if I'm expected, I borrowed a tent to go to Green Man Festival because I had a gig there and I arrived really late because I'd done another gig somewhere else and I'd driven from Essex

to West Wales and I was so tired and I also, it turned out, I didn't know this, had pneumonia and I turned up with this tent and I didn't know how to put it up and I literally was nearly, I was like, It was raining and I was almost crying and this bloke just came up to me and went, do you want, sorry, do you want me to put the tent up for you? And I went, yeah, please.

I don't know who you are now. I don't know who you are. I think you've lost a lot of respect for me. Yeah. And that's how I feel about tents. Yeah. Tens and festivals as well. So you need a life partner to put a tent up.

And in my photo, Ben probably is my life partner. Ben's the life partner. Yeah. And he is also the craft of work. And tell us about the Redding. How was Reading? Was it wild? No.

So we're now in that situation of our first. born is thinking about Reading he hadn't brought it up yet but all his mates are so I don't know so we've heard the Sunday night Oh I know You hear the awful stories

Oh the stories are terrible People sitting fire to tents People like injecting you at the front of a gig Get injected Like you know the horror stories I've not heard that story Kerry Well I mean I have I mean the horror

Elsie was scared off Right She was put off I mean I've had loads of friends Who's kids have gone on and had a brilliant time. So I think if he does bring it up, don't listen to the horror stories, let him go.

Don't listen to the injections. I will then go. So the idea is you get your GCSE results and go straight there, isn't it? It's on the same day. It's very young, isn't it? It's a perfect ritual. Yeah.

So I wasn't a festival's person at all. I did that and that was it really. But there was, I think red hot chili peppers were there and I think they were awful. I think they were rubbish. But I think Radiohead were there and I didn't really like them. But anyway, there was, you know, it's cool stories.

You were having fun. Yeah, I think I did poppers. I didn't know why. Poppers. But they were legal. To relax your sphincter. Yeah. That's what they're for.

I know. So I had a really relaxed sphincter for the whole festival. That's good. Is this you? That's me in 90. That's not Tom Wrigals with. 93. No, I mean, I looked like that very briefly, but it's the hair.

People quite often say, you know, you say, I had long hair for a bit. I think I had it for a year. there's a little braid in there as well. I love that. We all had one of those. I remember having one of those. I think that's Lake Garder, I reckon, in Italy. We used to do Eurocamp in Italy or France,

which we now do with the kids as well, and it's brilliant. And I think I was drinking then. I think it's 93, so I was probably 15, 14, but drinking, you know, in those days, you did. Not smoking, you hadn't moved on to real folks. Never smokes. No, I didn't smoke weirdly. That was the one thing my dad did the doctor said, whatever you do. He actually said, I don't mind you doing some weed or drinking.

Yeah, or poppers. Yeah. He handed out of the poppers. Yeah. But I said don't smoke. It's such a cute photo. Yeah, I think I look pretty cool. I'm wearing a Viz shirt.

I think we do. Yeah. And what were these holidays like? They were really brilliant. Yeah, there was snogging. First snogging, I think. Oh, really? At Eurocamp.

Yeah. Because I went to boarding school. And there was only girls in the sick form at school, so there's no snogging there. Right. Yeah, there was snogging and absolutely falling in love. with someone who then left the next day, you know. Oh, was it like dirty dancing, like proper holiday romance? Yeah, I think so.

Nothing more than snogging. Okay. Yeah. That's okay, though. There's a lot of romance to be had in snogging. I think twice. Maybe slow dancing, slow dancing. No, there was lying and looking up at the stars.

Oh, my God. This is too cute. Babyfoot. What's that? Table football. It sounds like it wasn't a heavy petting thing. I was going to say, I thought it was a band.

I was like we were playing baby foot and I don't know who they are. And how long did you go on these holidays? Were they like long language sort of three weeks away? No, two weeks I think. I think two weeks but so you're in a little sort of not quite camping, a little caravan like a static caravan thing.

And my parents would always go to bed and then like at 10 or something and we'd creep in late. And we had complete freedom I think because you always stayed on the campsite and there were bars and stuff. And I think twice I ended up writing to the campsite. I think I left.

left early, but the girl that I liked was still there. And I managed to send a letter to the campsite saying, this is her first name, she looks like this. I think her tents over here, and the letter got back. And, yeah, you're waiting for the postman to send a letter. Nothing ever. I never saw any of them again. Alex, that's so sweet.

Because, of course, now all the kids have phones, so they can just text each other or get each other on Facebook or Snapchat each other. But back in the old days, that was it. If you didn't get their telephone number or their address, how the hell were you ever going to track her down? Yeah, and you didn't really want to, I don't think, because it's best for holidays. Yeah, quite right.

You're like me in that your holidays, your childhood holidays or your early teen holidays are very much a part of your feelings around childhood and growing up or whatever. I always, I've been, to be honest, I think it's slightly burdened by how idyllic my memories of my childhood holidays are. But it's actually like, I just constantly want to replicate that for my kids.

That's a good thing What were his ones like? Were they bad? They were a bit more Yeah, they went to like Scotland With his mum and dad And two siblings Camping in the Highlands or whatever

Whereas I was like you We were in Europe And it was hot And I looked like this kid That was just chilling out And had a beer I'd had a snog Do you know what I mean?

I remember one holiday Like spending ages In the pinball Like getting lira For the pinball machine Just so idyllic And I'm always trying to replicate that.

Best holidays, better holidays than Ben. And Ben's like, but my holidays were nice. I'm like, yeah, but they weren't as good as mine. So we need to replicate mine. Alex, going back to you as a teenager. Yes, please, Jim. Because I believe I met you not long after your teenage years, probably. Yeah, in your early 20s.

Yeah. Who were, what sort of guy, who were you? Because were you comfortable in your skin? Were you a confident teenager? Was that the Alex Horn of? I think there's probably a couple of things. I think Cambridge, one thing it does give you is belief that you can do anything, which is really healthy,

I think. I mean, it can turn into cockiness, but I guess I probably thought everything will work out, but I didn't have a plan. I remember someone, maybe Reese Darby, who was the same time as us, I think he had a four-year plan. I remember we had a long car journey. He said, so what's your four-year plan? And I think, I don't think this is the career for that, but it seems like it worked for him. But no, so I didn't know what I was doing at all. And I think at school, so I'm always been pretty happy in myself, but yeah, I suppose sort of confident, but I was never the loud one in any situation, you know, in the classroom. So did you always think? Because I, okay, just, I'll just ask you this quickly.

We will go on to the next photo. Okay. Did you always think, right, okay, so the way I'm going to break in is I'm going to pitch entertainment shows and I'm going to get something like an entertainment show on the teddy, because that is a very different, again, a different sort of skill and a different world. No.

So, I mean, I've talked about the taskmaster story before. It's completely accidental. That was not meant to be a telly thing. And what happened was, so Tim and I, Tim Kear and I did a few shows together. And I think the second one, I remember Richard Osman came in the audience because it was such a looming presence in the audience.

I really remember this night. And it was our best night of the run. You know you sometimes have a brilliant show at Edinburgh, so much better than all the others. And so we were brought into Endemol for, a meeting and we thought this is it we're going to be you know we're going to this is going to make this is going to work and i was with nigel clafelt at the time and he came to the meeting oh yeah he came to the meeting we and uh we're in the lift afterwards going yeah this is it and and we got a pilot

and i think the pilot was to get tim married something like that i don't know why but we had a the show was married this man basically you've got a week your time starts now and it was it didn't work at all it's dreadful and then they didn't call for years and that was the end but yeah I mean, that's the kind of like bold moment, isn't it, when you all realise that actually there isn't, no one's in charge. Like there isn't a kind of formula to it. It is just a kind of,

it's like a macrocosm of Edinburgh. And then when the accident happens and something good, you know, like, you know, something good finally gets made, which is an accident in television I always find. Then they're like, oh, well, let's, now that you've created.

Yeah, now that everyone's trying to go, oh, we want it. Yes. It's like, we've got taskmaster. You don't want another taskmaster. But that exists in the, My big break came, I think, because of Joel, your producer, because I'd been doing a podcast at Dave with Joel for a couple of years, I suppose, which got my foot in the door.

You know, you do need a foot in the door, I suppose. But before that, no one knew who I was. And they still didn't, but they were happy to give me a go. When you met, so what is your next picture of your wedding photo with Rachel? Well, actually, the one before, there's one with a Chinese guy and an old Chinese down the wall. Yeah, that is 1990. You look quite young. You look very young.

So I am 18. So that is my gap year. I did a gap year because I didn't get into Oxford, so I had to take a year off. Yeah. I tried to apply to other universities. So I went to China to teach English for a few months. How was that? It was not wholly happy.

So that was more like boarding school. That was where you suddenly think, oh, I can't go home every weekend. I'm in China. There's no phones. You got a fax machine in the school. And Deng Xiaoping, the president, the chairman who's on that poster behind me, he just died, which I don't really know anything about Chinese history, but the country was in a weird place. Okay. And I was very proud of teaching English.

So that was a good bit of finding out about yourself, I suppose. And at no point you thought, I don't want this, I'm going home. You stuck it out. I don't think it was ever an option. I don't know how you would. There's always an option, Alex. You had been programmed to not believe there was an option. But I don't yet. I was programmed.

Yeah. I think those situations are quite hard. Yeah, it was quite tough, but it wasn't unhappy. There were lots of happy bits. So we were out with this big group of people. I was with one guy called Phil, who we got him really well, and we helped each other. But there were lots of other gappers around the country. So at the weekends, or once a month we might meet up and find Westerners,

we weren't very good at assimilating into the culture. But we did make a few Chinese friends. That guy was great, but it was, I think it would have been far better to do in your 30s. You know, when you're 17, 18, and you're too young. That is, yeah. I don't know why I've included, so I didn't quite know how to pick these five photos.

It wasn't sort of... Well, they kind of, sometimes they pick you, don't they? You've kind of like, well, that one's there, and I know that that's a part of my biography that is quite a seminal part of your personality. Yeah, and the biggest chunk of my life, to be not in England, I suppose.

Yeah. But also, and also I wasn't there with anyone I really knew. So this guy, Phil, was great, but we haven't particularly stayed in touch, and there was no family and no friends. So it was, yeah, it was the most isolated bit, I suppose. It's the stuff you want to do when you're young. And now that I'm nearly 50, I'm like, I don't want to do any of those things.

Like when I was in my 20s, I was like, oh, I want to go to now. And I want to travel around on a motorbike in Vietnam. And now I'm like, no, thank you. I do. I still want to do it. I want to go and do all those adventures. Definitely. I love travel.

It's one of my favorite things. I love traveling, but I think I like staying in hotels now. Yeah, sure. I mean, you want to travel in a nice way. but when you're, especially when you're young and you're sort of trying to find your personality and you're kind of working out who you are and these adventures do give you some context

to expand your personality, doesn't they? Experiment. Do you want your personality expanded even more, Kerry? No. It's darn a thing. I want it out of this context. I kind of want to move it geographically away from this context.

Yeah. You know. I don't think it's your personality is going to change. You can be in Bhutan and you'll be Kerry God. Yeah, sure. I mean, that's the kind of downside of travel is you take yourself with you, don't you? But going on adventures and seeing amazing things, that's one of the privileges of being alive while we're alive, is doing all these. Absolutely. Listen, I can do one of those things, but I don't want to do it in the back of a lorry.

I just, I'm not interested to do that anymore. So where is your wedding? Where did you and Rachel be married? Well, I've included that picture because it's not my wedding. I think this is a good picture. But Rachel's dressed as a bride? This is for either the win or the draw. You have to guess where I am.

So Jen got it right last time. It's not in the UK. I can see it's not in the UK. I can't see what that case. You get these people who can isolate exactly where in the world that is on the internet. If you look at some clues. I wonder if they're in the case. It says Stargate.

Stargate. It does say Stargate. I don't know why it says Stargate. Okay, so that's not a clue. No. It looks like it's a. It is somewhere in Europe. It's not France. Italy. Is it

Holland? It's Italy. Did you just say Italy, Kerry? Yeah, it's one one. It's one. Yeah. It's Italy. I love that this is turned into a quiz. Yeah. It's in Rome and it is it is the summer after our wedding. So we got married in 2005. It's our 20th wedding anniversary in a month which is very exciting. But Rachel is her family's Catholic and her uncle was a bishop who married us. And if you get married in the

Catholic Church, within the next year, you can have an audience with the Pope, if you want, which means you go to Rome on a certain day, I think on a Wednesday, to the Vatican. And he comes out. And everyone in the sort of congregation in the square are married couples, and he blesses you. And everyone is dressed in their wedding clothes. So there's hundreds of brides running around. And because her uncle's a bishop, we actually got in the front row and he came and shook our hands. And I'm not religious in the slightest, but it was really quite moving, meeting the Pope briefly. But also I turned it into an Edinburgh show where the Edinburgh show was all about teaching people in Latin. And the punchline was me saying salve-papa to the Pope, which means hello Pope.

But the actual day... What a great thing to say to the Pope? Yeah, Salve-Papa. and Tim Key went with me and Tom Bastin went with me we had a weekend in Rome in a hostel and but just Rachel loved wearing her wedding dress again not

you know because the wedding day itself that's one of the downsides of a wedding dress is you only get to wear it once yeah yeah so that's a brilliant reason it was great and everywhere she went all the men would shout chow bella as she you know walked past and stuff it was a brilliant it was one of our favourite ever

better than the wedding day far better than the wedding day Wedding Day was, you know, one thing, but this was complete freedom and quite mad. Yeah. Who was the Pope then in 2005, 2006, whenever it was? I don't know. Is it, was, you don't remember which Pope was? Really?

I haven't got a clue. No, it's one before Ratzinger. One before Rattinger, I know that. Pope John Paul did say? Yeah, I think it was. I think he died pretty soon after that. Oh my God, him? He must have been 100.

Yeah, I think it was pretty old. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, he was the, he was the, he was the one like for most of our children. Yeah, and I think like he was, I mean, there's no smoke. Yeah, I think he was all right, I think. Oh, I don't think so. I don't think any of the mind. Probably not. No, no, no, no, no. But it was a non-Catholic, it must have just been one big adventure. Because if you're not invested in a religious capacity, you're like, this is just great. This is the best big theater I've been involved in. But I suppose it's like, if you're not a royalist, meeting the king or queen, it's still probably quite exciting because he's, they're quite emblematic and one of the most, yeah, fair. famous people in the world.

And just being in a group of people who did really love it. People were getting very emotional all around us. So, yeah, it was like being part of something. Especially in Rome. Wow. Yeah. And everyone in marriage clothes. Yeah, even that's a spectacle, isn't it?

Just seeing like hundreds of people dressed as bride and grooms. Being bride and groomed. And he blessed the marriage and it worked. So that's good. You have a blessed marriage? Yeah. We're still together. Wow.

That's something to think about, Kerry, for you and Ben. Yeah. Well, we're still to. and we weren't Pope blessed unless he did it without me knowing. I don't think you'd have you'd have. You have to get involved. I think so. He wouldn't have blessed you without you knowing.

I don't think. Okay. Well, we are clearly blessed. So someone's blessed us. Yeah. You need consent. That's something. Blessing consent.

Can I tell you one photo I didn't put in, which I did put in last night? I don't know if you saw Joel, but there's one photo which then said deleted behind it. I said it to you and then deleted it. Because I told Rachel, I said, I put this one in. It was my 18th birthday party. And it's me dressed as Gary Glitter. And I thought, I thought it's quite funny.

And then Rachel said, no, it's not funny. It's not funny. It's not really hard. It's good to have a wife to point these things out, isn't it? Yeah. It's nice. I actually feel like I really see what Rachel's role is now. And lots of your decisions, comedy-wise.

Why would you put a picture of you dressed as glitter on the internet forever? So she would. Where did you and Rachel meet? Have you been listening, Kerry? Cambridge, University. Expand on that. I mean, that's a town. So what's the context of your romance and union?

How did you, like, a party or did friends set you up or a date? We were at the same college. I was in the year above her. And so she says she saw me during Freshers Week. But we didn't get together for a couple of years. The hottie spotted you anymore. The hotty in the year above. Yeah, I know.

I'd come out well from the story. But, yeah, I had a different girlfriend. She had other boyfriends. And we eventually got together. But also, I left Cambridge. I actually really struggled the first term of Cambridge and had to leave because I wasn't very good. So I had another gap year and then came back, came back. So we were then in the same year and eventually we got together. But we were in a little college. So you were mates.

We were mates. We were mates and we're still our mates, but we're also. I know. I'm not implying you're not mates now, but I like that. I like it when people are friends before they get together. Do you? Yeah, I think it's really romantic because then there's that turning point when you're like, oh. Oh, maybe more than mates. Yeah, we're not just mates. Yeah, we're not just mates, are we? Is that what happened to you, Kerry? Is that why you're saying it? No, that isn't what happened.

Me and Ben got together quite quickly. I mean, as is my whole Bosch nature, which Alex knows well, because the whole Bosch thing came out at Tarasper, so I bossed it, I bossed it early doors with Ben. I was like, you. Yeah. Right.

Wow. So romantic. Yeah. This is the kind of, stories. This is what I want to be reading in a romantic novel. My novel is bullet points. Does the people go about romantic?

different ways, don't they? Yeah. Ours was quite a gentle, a slow, simmering thing, which eventually... That's what I imagined for you, Alex. Well, well done. I imagine it to be very romantic.

It was quite romantic. Yeah, it was. And it was in Cambridge. There was a May ball moment where you have these May balls in the summer where things happened. Yeah, it was pretty good. Yeah.

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It's sort of a one gig a week on a weekday. That's how we do it now. Or maybe two, but yeah, thehornsection.com has got all the dates. But I think we're going to go and all over the place. And you'll see little drummer Ben at the back of the room. Oh, yes. Now we know more about Ben. I'm investing in this whole.

Little drummer boy, yeah. Well, thanks Alex. You've been great. And thanks for the photos and the stories. Pleasure. Use them wisely. We've loved it. Okay. Bye. I love. I sang on stage the other day.

What? Did you do that, Kray, Kray? Is that where you did this? Well, what happened was? Jen. What happened was? When Phil Nichols says feel free to use the band, it doesn't mean you use the band.

I had to. I had to. I tell you what happened was. They had the audience, this is so for our listeners, this was held at the comedy store. It's a really great cabaret night. It's the only cabaret night

or anything like it at the store. It's run by Phil Nicol And he He tries to create the most diverse sort of night that you can expect So on that show we had Nina Conti Yes, Nina said she did it Absolutely ripped it

Like to the point where we're like Oh my God, how are we going to follow? That's now unplayable Now the room is completely unplayable Anyway, NeNe won on first She had a Christmas party to go to So she left.

We had a chap come on and he did some songs and he and comedy songs. And then he had a screen in the background where he'd made all these like little videos and he was really fun. Then we had a drag queen who was a stand-up comedian but also sang funny songs and did this great Christmas medley, which was by the way incredible, Kate Butch. I don't know if you get the. Yeah, I got the wordplay. Yeah. Okay, great.

And then Asha Trelevin, who I haven't seen in about 10 years, he's an Australian stand-up comedian, but he also works at Le Cleek. He's at Le Cleek at the moment in London, and he does the Diablo. But also he's incredibly funny. And he did this absolutely dynamite Diablo routine. Honestly, Kerry, it was just like your jaw-dropping amazing. Like, how can he do that? And you had to follow all this?

So then I come on. And everyone's been in like really beautiful outfits, you know, like dresses and stuff. Yeah. And doing cabaret basically, not straight stand up. Yeah. And Nina is always looks, she's like, she's in a corduroy jumpsuit with heels. I mean, she looks incredible. Yeah. I come on in a t-shirt and jeans.

People are like, what's going to close the night? Someone going to let the cleaner know that she's not supposed to be here. I'm standing on the stage. I already feel there's an intake of disappointment has appeared into the room. I'm aware of this. I'm like, okay, there's been so much applause. And then I come on and it's sort of like, oh, well, what the fuck is she going to do? Oh, God.

She's not going to strip. I can see that. So I then had to do stand-up. Now, stand-up, as we know, only works in certain situations. And this wasn't one of them. No. So I'm trying to do my stand-up. Or maybe if you'd been on first and then all those hugely musical.

That's what I said to Phil. Yeah. I said that I think if I'd gone on first, it would have been fine. But anyway, I'm on last. And you sound? Well, here's the lead up to the singing. So I'm doing stand up. And it's going, okay, it's not going badly, but it's not going like out of this world, brilliant.

It's just going fine. I'm like, okay, well, this is one of those gigs. I just need to get through. And then the heckling starts. Oh, my God. The heckling starts. There's men in the room. They heckle me.

I get a lot of heckling from men because they see a slightly androge woman holding court and they can't bear it. So I get the heckling. heckling starts and I'm putting down the hecklers and but da-da-da-da and then I start the next bit stand up and then someone goes, what about that bit you were just doing? And I'm like, that bit's gone, mate. We can't leave that bit. I can't go back to it. It's dead. And he went, I want to know what happens. And I like, well, you can't know. Because if I go back to it now, it's just giving you information. It won't be a joke. Let me do this bit. All right, so I started doing this bit. Another heckle, another heckle. And I'm like, you guys don't want

stand-up comedy, do you? So then I sat, so there was a stall by the band and I went, I just sat down And I went, I'll, fine, I'll sing you a song, thinking that they would go, no way. And they went, why on earth did you think that would happen? I don't know. I was clutching at all of the straws at this point. Anyway, they said, yes, sing as the song. And I went, I haven't got a song. I don't have a song.

So then I had to improvise a song about the man who had been heckling me. So I did that. Oh my God, you did improvisation. I did musical improv. I did musical improv. And they did it. I think it's filmed somewhere. Have you ever sang publicly like that before?

No, never in my life. Two songs, sang badly, because I can't sing. Really cannot sing. Out of tune. Was anyone enjoying this? Yeah, they loved it. They're hearing for it. They were like, this woman is having a breakdown on stage.

It was the best thing they've ever seen in their lives, I think, actually. I think I might have stolen the show, weirdly. There you go. Wow. I mean, I don't mean that last bit sincerely, I just mean. I think I got away with it. Wow. That just sounds so complicated.

But Kerry, can I say in the weirdest of ways, wait for it? I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. I knew you were going to say that. I couldn't feel that that story was going towards essential pleasure. I couldn't believe it. I got to the end of it and went, I just sang, Wonder Woman.

I couldn't believe it. I, yeah. I mean, I don't think I would ever do it again. I couldn't do it again. to say, is this is it going to be a new? No, no, I'll never do it again. What about singing at the end of your show? No, no, improvise song at the end of your show.

Come on, mate. No, no. What do you think life throws you these little moments? It says, here you are, here's a new thing for you. Would you like to take it? Yes, I'd really like to add some additional stress to what is already quite a stressful thing. Yeah, but it won't be stressful in the end. As you said to your boys, you start bad at a thing and then you work on it and you get better.

Yeah, but can I not do that in front of like a thousand people or whatever? But take the own lesson that you give to your children. Jennifer. Okay. I come to you for cap in hand for support and this is what you get. I echo back, this is therapy. I echo back what you've been saying to me

and that is the value of good friendship. I say, I see what you've come with and I give you the messaging. The lessons. Okay, well I feel like that is an actual end point to this year's series of memory lane.

I really feel like what you have offered there, Kerry, as always. No, I think what would be the natural end point is for you to sing an improvise song. I don't have a band. I'd love to, unfortunately, no backing. A cappella, mate. Nobody wants that. I tell you, I will do it. Kerry, if you duet with me.

No way, mate. I've been told, I've learnt the hard way, never sing again. Never, never, never. Never say never It was that bad I liked it I liked it I'm Max Rushden I'm David O'Darady

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