Memory Lane with Kerry Godliman and Jen Brister - S04 E03: Matt Goss

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

"I fancied my mum's mate Rita.. I used to have a major crush on Rita..." The brilliant singer, song writer, designer and actor... MATT GOSS joins us this week and what an episode it is! - Our first professional singer (if we aren't counting Jen and Kerry) on the show and honestly it was a DELIGHT! Jen and Kerry talk about malapropism and Jen's trip to gay Paris! Matt Goss: The Hits & More Tour kicks off on 8th March in Bristol. Tickets are on sale now and are available from  https://mattgossofficial.co.uk/tour/ and his new single We Are Not Broken is available now. We are also asking for you all to DM us a photo from your life and we might choose it for our special 'Listener Episode'. - Send us a photo and description and we'll do the rest! Plus... Kerry's 2025 tour is on sale now - https://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/kerry-godliman-tickets/artist/1866728 PHOTO 1: Me and mum PHOTO 2: Nic Cage PHOTO 3: Pamela Anderson PHOTO 4: The Rolling Stones PICS & MORE - https://www.instagram.com/memory_lane_podcast/ A Dot Dot Dot Production produced by Joel Porter Hosted by Jen Brister & Kerry Godliman Distributed by Keep It Light Media Sales and advertising enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Shop before they're gone. In-store online at Sephora.com. So Kerry, we are going to be doing a listener episode, which I'm very excited about. This is going to be great. I'm over the moon about this. I can't wait to see what gets sent in. Well, send in. We'll have to ask. Well, that's what we're doing. Okay. We're asking. So listeners, if you've got a photo you'd like us to talk about, send it in.

Send it in. And we will pick the top four. We'll pick four for this particular episode, because we're going to do more. And then we're going to chat about them in a future episode. of Memory Lane, but we need you to send your photographs in, so please send them in, DM us directly at Memory Lane, so a direct message to our Instagram account, and we will go through the photographs, pick four, and discuss them on a future episode. Oh, I can't wait to see what gets sent in.

My under if it'll be bad haircuts, appalling clothes, holidays, romance. I want all of it. Please include a brief description of your photograph as well so we can talk about it. So we have some context, basically. Yeah, man. Hello. Hello and welcome to Memory Lane.

I'm Jen Bristair and I'm Kerry Godleman. Each week we'll be taking a trip down Memory Lane with our very special guest as they bring in four photos from their lives to talk about. To check out the photos we'd be having a natter with them about, they're on the episode image and you can also see them a little bit more clearly on our Instagram page. So have a little look at Memory Lane podcast.

Come on, we can all be nosy together. Oh, we've started, okay. Well, I want to unpack. What was it? Iron rope, Silkwood. Listen, okay. I feel that there is a thing. Right, so what I meant was Silkwood, yes? Yes. The Cher film. I was telling a story about Cher in a film.

Yeah. And I said Ironweed. Ironweed, yeah. But I knew what you meant? Okay. But what did I need? Silkwood. Yeah, I know, but what is ironweed? Nothing. I mean, literally nothing. There's no such thing as Ironweed.

It's not another film with Cher in it. There was no such film by Cher with sharing it called Iron Weed. weed. But there is silkwood. But there is silkwood. But why did you know what I was talking about when I said? Because for me, when you said ironweed, I thought, oh, she means silkwood. Okay, and I automatically knew that you meant silkwood. Do you think it's like, so men are pals or women that get words wrong, malaprops? Yeah. Yeah. Do you think we're like, um, people that drive VWs? We just wave at each other and know what each, where each other are coming from. I know exactly what you were talking about. I'm like, I'm like, I'm literally tuned. I'm totally plugged in. I was like, but another person for going through a different chapter. I'm in. If you'd been talking to, if I was 35, I wouldn't know what you're talking about. No, fair. Iron weed? What is iron weed?

So, should we start collecting all our... Malaprops? Yeah. Yeah. So the other week I said to Elsie, my daughter, who you know, do you want me to get you some tickets for Broadmoor? Okay. You didn't mean that. No.

Right. I meant broadmasters. It's a different thing, though, isn't it? Yeah, it's a festival, not a high security prison. Yeah, for people with serious issues. So these things are happening. a lot. Well, I mean, what did Elsie think when you said Broadmoor? She said, you don't mean Broadmole, mum? No. You mean Broadmole? Okay, but she's not even menopausal when she knew.

She's just plugged into you. Yeah, she's, she's lived with me for all her life. Yeah, I don't think I do them all the props. Don't you? No, I don't think so I think they're quite fun. They are fun, but I think I'm just, I don't know. My mum used to do them, so maybe it's hereditary. Did your mom not do them? Oh, my mom was constantly doing them. Oh, of course, of the language barrier as well. She was Spanish, so we had to forgive her a lot of things. My mom would do them. Her mom did that. Her mom did her. She did her. She did her them. So famous ones in our family. Mum said, I love that film,

12 Angry Monkeys. Okay. Twelve Angry Men? And 12 monkeys. And 12 monkeys. She'd hybrided that. She'd hybrid into 12 Angry Monkeys. Okay.

Her mom called Yoko Ono Yokioki. I prefer Yokioki. Well, it's not okay. No, okay. You're right. That is, okay. I mean, so it goes a long way back in my family. Okay. My mom did think Prince was called Vin.

I was like, yeah, Mom, that famous song, my name is Vince and I am funky. We're all, yeah. Oh, he's Vince, no? It's Prince, Mom. Oh, I thought his name was Vince. I think it's a great tradition for mums to get things mixed up. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, my mum used to sort of make up words that we thought were real words,

and then for it years later we went, oh, that's not a word. No. I remember once my mom and my brother were talking about films, and she said, I want to go and see Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, and Jess went, fuck me. you got that right. He literally couldn't believe that all the words came in the right order correctly. Crouching badger, hidden column.

Oh yeah. Okay. He was like, wow. You did well there because I wouldn't have expected you to get that right. No, but the anecdote doesn't work if I get it wrong. That's true, actually. Yeah, yeah. I tell you what.

Here's something. I went to Paris. Did you? I did see it on Instagram, but I'll react like I didn't. I teach you. Well done. Yes, well done. Tick.

What did you do in Paris? Went to, we did lose of things. We bobbed about. I had a lovely time in Le Mairene. Did you eat fine food? We did. We went to, well, we went to a tradition brasserie. I couldn't tell you the name.

Were you with your crew? I was with my crew, with my Brighton crew. And we had a lovely time in, we went to a really nice brusory, absolutely appalling if you were even vaguely vegetarian. We went to a very nice brusery. bow finger bow finger just eating

fingers I mean literally you might as well have I'm like you'd go in then you'd go what is there we said to then

there's any vegetarian and they were like yeah the French are known for their vegetarian and I was like okay bienso means they have so we go in

we sit down and the menu has absolutely no vegetarian offerings at all we have two vegetarians in our party and we said

oh but there's there's no vegetarian they went yeah we have vegetarian you ask for us we have vegetarian

And we're like, oh, okay, so you can ask for something and they'll make it. And then we went, okay, so what is available for vegetarians? They're with a risotto. And I went, and, um, what's in the resort? And is it? What's in it? Literally, it was cemented rice in a bowl. All the other food, they've done it absolutely beautifully.

They've done it beautifully. Like, I mean, you want a steak, great. You want fresh oysters, amazing. You want, uh, sea bass. You betcha. If you ask for vegetarian food, it's like, you take it beautifully. It's like they'll come back and kick you in the groin. They literally went, would you like a block of ice?

I told you about my veggie burger in France and it was just salad in a bun. You can't have that. They literally, they called it a veggie burger. They called it a veggie burger. It's not a burger, is it? It was salad in a bun. It's unacceptable. Utilly unacceptable.

Well, you'll be pleased to hear this then. We went to a vegan restaurant. Ah, and how was that? Really vegany. You didn't like it? It's not that I didn't like it. It's just, it was one of those. really posh restaurants which goes would you like some celeria ju or some and everything's got

froth on it and i'm like why has everything got froth on it do you know what's all monas you know when food is frothy like it's all rabid well it's just like why is there like oh i've got a something and then there's some froth on the side because it's not something you do at home my feeling is if you're going to eat out you've got to be able to eat something you can't cook better at home well i couldn't cook any of this right well there go that's right that's a measure of the quality of it you're not going to cappuccino beans on toast are you so you want i I want froth. I had absolute cappuccino and everything.

It was bananas. I was like, why am I getting froth and everything? Town is ominous. Yeah, other people had no froth. I'm beginning to think there was something on that froth. But anyway, it was very nice. Okay, praise indeed. It was very nice.

How long were you there for? We were there for like 48 hours. We were in an over an hour. Oh, it was so quick. And did you stay in an Airbnb or a hotel? We stayed in the Ibis. Oh, okay. And you went on the Eurostar.

Went on the Eurostar. And I've got to say you this, ibis in the Bastille district, perfectly fine. Yeah. Absolutely. You can get caught up in this whole notion of staying somewhere bushy

and then you go, don't need to. This was beautiful. Like you'd go in and the aesthetic was plants. You'd have loved it. Everywhere you looked. There was a plant on the ceiling and the wall coming out of the floor

in your face. It was like a jungle. Right. And then the breakfast, great. Great breakfast. If you can't get decent. breakfast in Paris what's the point?

Yeah there were fresh croissons Yeah What more do you want So do you feel like you've really seen In your 50th I've really rinsed it I feel like

When I got back It was the 10th Which is a day after my birthday And a few other people They'd started to say Happy birthday to me I was like we're done Yeah

Don't, it's too late So I had to like block those And go no no no No no We've done that Block them You know that's too much No

If someone said happy birthday You blocked them. You block them. You know they have a bit much. It's really harsh. I mean, if you're a day late, mate, so you're blocked. Joel's blocked. Everyone's blocked.

Oh, wow. Yeah, I'm sorry to say that. It's brutal looking about you. I might actually have accidentally blocked you. Well, you're going to have to unblock him because he produces our podcast. Joel, I'm going to unblock you now. Oh, but Paris, what a way to spend your 50th? Well, I'll never know that because I'm 51.

That ship has sailed But maybe You're 60th What are you going to do? What? That's nine years away Let's talk about it I'm not going to play my 60s

Let's start planning it now I tell you what I have got an appetite For a party every year A party Every year Why do you have to wait every decade? What are we doing? I'll just do what I did last year

Are you going to do a party? I won't Well I'll have a slightly smaller one That was quite big for my 50th Where we're going? What we're doing? I'm just going to hire a little room And have a party

Do it? You won't come I've all I came I came to your 50th Yeah I know but that's because it was my 50th. I will come. Do you all come to my 50 second?

Sure, why not? Let's put it in the diary now. I've got to unblock you first and then. Right, who are we talking to today? Oh, wow. Today we are talking to, listen, childhood kind of... I can't believe this happened.

I mean, like, both of us, I thought we were pretty cool. I think we played it really cool. I don't think he knew. The selfies at the end... The selfies at the end really blew our cover, actually. We kept our shit together. that entire time and then just before he left you went okay so I'm going to go and should we have a selfie? We're ready to say who it is oh yeah we are speaking to the

absolutely wonderful really really charismatic and very very nice and kind Matt Cos. What a talent what a talent so many great stories what a life what a bleeding life we didn't honestly this is one of my faves you're going to love it sit back relax while we have a wonderful chat with Matt Goss When a child is in the hospital, visitors come to say hello, and when visiting hours are over, they leave. But family, family does whatever it takes to stay. At Ronald McDonald's house, we believe families shouldn't have to fight alone.

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I love the haircut. I went short. I haven't got the guts. I haven't got the guts. My hairdresser won't even do it. Really? When we're ready for an Olivia Coleman and she went, no. She just shut it down.

She just shut it down. I said, I feel like Mary beard. You haven't got a face for a pixie that I was like... I had one in my 20s. No, but I'm saying it's like, do it. Just do it. Just do it. Maybe she was politely saying I haven't got the right.

Maybe I've got a bump. Anyone knows you got a bump. I'm going to shave all mine off so that's coming. No, you haven't got a cone head. What are you talking about? I've got a bit of a flat head like here, like a little bit of a bump. I don't know. So we haven't got your pictures in front of us.

Should we start with the one with your mum? Because that might take us to your childhood and where you grew up. This picture's here. My mum's actually having, she was actually freezing cold. I had a chemo. So like I wrapped her in a blanket. And I was doing promo. I was on tour.

Oh, your mum's gorgeous. Yeah, she's beautiful. Oh, wow. How long ago was that? It was probably a year before she died. Oh, I'm so sorry, Matt. But she was just, I don't know, I feel a real void in some ways coming back. Like she was England to me, do you know, like?

Right. So she, you know, and everything's going to be okay. That conversation, like, suddenly doesn't exist. Yeah. So I think when you're, like, when you're in the public eye and stuff, like you do really, you know, lean into your private life. And I feel like she was just my best mate, you know, so I feel like, you know, and even when we were young in Camberwell and my granddad, my aunt Sally,

my brother Luke, myself. Just incredible times because it was so, so simple. It was just music, good food. And I always say like white pepper. Yeah. No, and black pepper. No, it was white pepper on rose potatoes.

And no mayo as well. It was just gravy and white pepper and a bit of salt. And it was just like, my granddad would do the spuds. You know what I mean? It was just such a simple, brilliant time. Then, as I said in the documentary, we would have a dart. We had a dart that we would play.

with, and my granddad pulled it out of my ribs because it went in my ribs. Oh my God. And he's like, be more careful next time. But that was it. It was like that was about as woke as it was. It's a miracle that all of us

survived being raised in the 70s and 80s. But you remember like, there's no health and safety. Come home at 10. Make sure you own by 10. That was the, that was the sentence from your mum when it. Yeah.

No trackers. Yeah. We're not in the mayo and the rose-ponator stays and the diet in the ribs. Yeah, exactly. Those days are gone. They're over. So you grew up in Camberwell.

Yeah. And just you and your brother? We moved like 10 times. We were everywhere. We had no, that's one thing we never ever felt me and my brother. We never felt that we had any one place. But that's why I go, Campbell was the place that was a constant for us

because of my granders, like in Crawford Road. And we would all be there. And that was a constant for me. And I like fancy my mum's mate, um, Rita. Really? Did you? Yeah, he's a major crush on Rita. Lovely Rita, meeta, yeah.

Not a big tea in London accent, no, and Rita. No, Rita. Was she fit? Oh, proper fit. Did she know you fancy? Yeah, absolutely. Oh my God, that is so bananas. See, this testosterone fuel dad was retro.

That is retro. Because now that would be like, inappropriate. Well, also, no one fancies as anyone's mom now because we were so old when the kid were born. I'm like, what that, pensioner? That's not sure. I had a toga party when I went to school, and my mom's kiss me at a toga party. What?

Properer snogged you? That is totally, that doesn't have. But none. No, we're not doing that anymore. That's me too. That's one of the reasons I'm well-rounded. That's why I have a secret love of togas. They remind you of good times. Yeah, it was an awkward conversation, but she worked at the sweet shop as well. Oh my God, there's so many things wrong with that.

So there was friends with benefits. No boiled sweets. No wonder you've got so many fun memories of this time. So when you and your brother made it mega big, did that mean that kind of what you, you're describing that Camberwell life. Yeah, I feel like it was weird because a lot of the people at school

sold stories immediately. It wasn't like, oh, I wonder if they're gonna, oh, okay, I guess they are. Straight off the back. What do you mean? Did you mean just went straight to the tabloids? Yeah, because then it was like,

tabloid culture was huge. Oh, it's nasty. And then it was like, okay. And then, you know, it was not really much to tell back then because you just, yeah, I had school dinners with a... Well, there was, because you were getting off

with your mum's mate at the sweet shop. So there was things to tell. But it was weird. So that kind of ended that. But me and my brother, yeah, we were touring 17, 18, 19. You were so young. You're so young. Do you have a sliding doors a moment what you think?

I wonder what our life would have been if Ross hadn't happened. Well, I don't know. I feel like I would have been in an actor. Like I was really into, like, that's how I discovered singing because I was in Cabaret, the musical when I was at secondary school. And my brilliant, brilliant teacher Jane Roberts, my drama teacher, she was just, she said, Matt, you can do anything you want. Like, she installed that belief system in my DNA.

Like she really was like, you know, gave me the lead in the show. And then I had a lot of singing. And then people like, I love your voice. And Rada came. You went to Rada? No, I had an invitation from Rada, rural school. Oh, so there was another line. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Matt, that is wild. I don't think most people, I did not know that. That didn't come up in the documentary, did it? No, well, nothing came up in the documentary. And when you, so you guys were, you started touring from the age of 17. And you haven't stopped, really. touring and until now, have you. Yeah, I'm touring, yeah, I'm touring, you know, in March.

So I think what, like, Vegas taught me was like, the conversational side of what we do, you know, like if somebody heckles or you see something in the, you whatever. Yeah, it's interactive. And it creates this. And then I remember, never forget the first time I got a laugh on stage at Caesar's Palace because I said exactly what was on my mind. Right.

And I was like, I just said exactly what I would say if there were no cameras. there was no audience and everyone laughed. Did you get a taste for stand-up? No, no, no, no. To a Madonna and do a couple of little cheeky gigs. But one third of the Vegas show was definitely comedy, as in like it was funny. Using humor.

But using the audience and having a conversation and just going, oh, I didn't, you know, like, it was just, it was just fun. But it was so, it taught me so much more than just being in a big bed. In my head, I've got like Goodfellas. Yeah, it is that. Yeah. It's that.

The bag from the Mafia, he passed away. He's called Bubbles. Right. And everything you think about, Turn up Goodfathers by 10. Yeah. Bubbles was like New York, wait there, he told like, Dad. What's up, Maddie?

I'm going to come and got some good guys come on tonight, you know? Yeah, yeah. Proper like New York guy. And he would always send from Rios, the Italian restaurant in the Cesar's. He'd send guys over. How long was the run? 11 years. 11 years is a long time.

Like a really, did you? Well, it's one more than 10, isn't it? Up to 11. Matt, I want to look at it. at this next. You pick, tell us which one you want to talk about. You've got some great pictures there.

Because I imagine being in Vegas for that entire time at the most prestigious casino. Oh my God. So did you just meet loads of A-listers all the time? Well, look what he's doing there. He's like doing the Elvis pose, right? He's like the finger towards the camera, right? When was that?

So this was at Caesars, but every night you'd get told that, you know. That is quite, it is quite, It is quite, that must have been quite a mad time. Well, it was just because every night you'd be like, who's in tonight? Anyone? Like, Jason Stathen came three times, come up to your suite and brought his dad and he's a brilliant lad, actually. And Nicholas Cage came and I thought I was going to have one of the, maybe my booth, because we would give it to people if they were, celebrities, if they wanted to have a little bit of privacy, but still watch the show.

Anyway, we're right at the front, right at the front with his missus. Really? And like, he was exactly how you'd want Nick Cage tonight. I said, look, I'm sorry, I don't normally do this, but I got to say, because he's right at the front, I said Nicholas Cage, Lays and Jents. And it was one of those rooms that it doesn't matter who was in it. Everyone was just into the show. And he stood up and he did the Elvis, like the point.

Yeah. It was like, they ran out. Like, to the whole thing. He did this whole showman, isn't it? He did the whole scare, like, the Elvis thing across the audience and then sat down and started to join the show. But exactly I'd want him to be. That's so wild to have like, you know, I just feel like,

with this business, it's great. You could never have said, That's your 17-year-old son. By the way, you're going to get a residency in Vegas and you're going to have Sharon Stone's going to be. It's just a while time. I wrote a really people's song with Sharon Stone called Rain. Did you?

Yeah. But yeah, my place in L.A., and she came quite a few times and we wrote some wonderful songs, but the song that I would love to get placed with a female artist is Rain. Yeah. And she's, yeah, she's awesome.

And she came and, you know, always asked me, place so it doesn't work that way you know you're right but so you were doing the show was it all your material or were you doing like a mix of everything what songs were you singing well i do reworked to all the bross stuff you know and i can honestly say that they're my hits as well because i sang them so like i think that that kind of moments past as well i can now proudly say yeah they're my my hits um but then i'd also do a couple of songs from my solo stuff and then but songs are falling in in love with. Like I'm going to do

champagne supernova but with horns and it's going to be a real soul version of it. It's going to, so it's fun, reworking music and making it really impactful. And you've got backy singers as well. Yeah. That's wild. And dancers are the dirty virgins. Wow. They record the dirty versions. What do they do? They were... How dirty are they?

No. Well, probably it's dirty as you want to be. This is last week as it can be what you want to be. No, they were show girls. Right, right. So there was choreography around the room. Have you seen that film yet? Showgirls. What do you mean the original one?

No, Pamela Anderson film. It's out now. Yeah, it's Pamela. Oh, well, let's talk about... Have you seen the film? Because I haven't. No, I haven't yet. But she came with my best mate, Robin Anson from the Dolls.

Right. And there's a few people came, but again, like, so glamorous, so nice, super kind and completely immersed in the show. Like, really, really, really. You can tell about that picture. Like, she's just super cool. Yeah. Really cool.

Do you want me asking why you've come back? No, because when you did the 10 years in Vegas, I was like, okay, when I hit the 11 years, I was like, this could easily become 20 years. I also wanted to experience more. I keep myself on my own toes, you know, I wanted to keep knowing that I can still prevail. Yeah. But not to the point where it feels like graft, but... No, I know what you mean. If you've gone for the 20-year thing, then you'd ossify a little bit and you didn't want to do it.

do that. Yeah, I just feel like it would be nice for me to be a man here. And like I'm doing a movie this year. Oh, yeah? I was going to ask you about acting because, I mean, now that you've, now that you've come back and you're not sort of tied to a big contract with Vegas and whatever, you've got, you can start exploring all those avenues that as a young man, they sort of, well, not I disappeared, but you went to the different routes.

I'm still, yeah, the Rada door. Yeah, the Rada door. Let's open that door. Well, I got, um, I got, um, um, a movie called Midas and it's with Stephen Dorf and my play... Stephen Dorff!

I'm sorry, this is funny actually let me do this. You know we want all the pictures. Are you allowed to talk about it? Yeah, of course, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So when is it out? Let me show you this.

It's quite funny. I'm going to put this on so you can see it. Because it's really funny either way. He looks brilliant. He looks, again, like exactly... Let me see. Hey, Matt, I was talking to Sean.

I heard you coming on board. Midas, buddy. So I look forward to Oh, my God. Getting down and getting it on and making it cool film. Thanks. Oh, what a great thing to receive. Yeah, but it's like, but again, that's a beautiful blank canvas for me,

and I haven't had a blank canvas in a long time, all fresh and ready for judgment. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I'm looking forward to have those good butterflies about something I'm not, you know, I don't know how good I am, but I'm good enough, I feel I'm good enough to actually take on that.

I wouldn't do it if I didn't feel like I could pull it off. So that's exciting to me. as I say, I haven't experienced the blank canvas kind of butterflies. It's exciting. In 35 years. So I'm excited about it. That does sound exciting. I mean, I think it's great that you as a creative person can go, yeah, I'm just doing a bit of music.

Now I'm going to do some acting. Now I'm going to do some design. What would you? I mean, if I'm not doing comedy, then I'm not doing anything. I'm like doing a PGCE. I'm fascinated by like that, how comedy is, you're the new rock stars. I mean, comedy, you are the new rock stars. Well, we have passed that.

We bypass the rock star status. But in terms of creativity, I think that's, you know, that you can kind of, like you were just saying, in a way, you can kind of go anywhere with, if you've got that kind of microphone. And you go, hey, what's up? You know, you can literally stand up at your, where you're having dinner. She did America last year. She told America. Yeah, I mean, it's quite an incredible thing. So I am genuinely fascinated.

And when I saw afterlife, I actually can't watch the second one because I was so emotionally affected by it. but I was like, I don't remember ever laughing my ass off. You, you know, fuck off, you ginger cunt, that, that line. Yeah. And then. It's amazing how simple. And then, and I'm like, also thank fuck he said it to him. Yeah.

And then like five minutes late, I'm literally blubbing like a, like a baby. Yeah, yeah. It was such a piece of genius. In a way, I think it kind of reminded a lot of people of music because it was, it had that, it had a minor key and a major. and they were right next to each other. I like that analogy. You know, yeah, there you go. Now streaming on Paramount Plus

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But it's kind of a good story, too. Yes, tell us the story. All right, so we were touring ourselves and the stones were in Kansas City in the States and we were like, oh, we got to see the stones. So me and my brother rocked up, you know, and they were, they could not have been cooler. Really? But we, but the first, In Keith Richard said, what the fuck are you doing now? The first thing you ever said, you're going to meet one of your heroes. Because you're in Kansas City.

You're like, that's a bit random, isn't it? It is a little random if you think about it. Yeah. And we were in the area, so we thought it popped by. And so then we ended up hanging out, but playing a bit table tennis and just backstage with the Stones. And you're just like, well, I'm backstage with Rowland Stones in Kansas City. And then Ronnie Wood, in my opinion,

one of the most coolest, most humble rock stars on the planet. He asked if he could wear my jacket. So I took that jacket off as quick as you can take it. Yeah. I'm like, there you go. And he's got it on and he's the rocket. And he comes out. Oh my God.

Still, Wells Tour. And it was just like, it was, you're in the pit as well. And you're watching the stones and you're just like, and Ronnie's wearing your. Your jacket. Yeah. And then. And you're what, 18?

Yeah. And then he gives it back to me. They've all signed it, which I still have that jacket. But all of the stones signed the jacket. So that was one of those moments. where you're just like, you know, and people would say to you, you know, was it tough?

No, it wasn't tough. Magic. It wasn't. It was magical, you know. And it was a rock star experience. Yeah. It wasn't like that. Oh, it was mental.

I mean, I remember it. Like, girls would literally, it was quite, because your brother Luke lived in a flat in Wimbledon. Okay. Near where I went to school. Okay. Which was, um,

doesn't matter where. And girls used to hang outside his flat. Yeah, yeah. Well, I think that's part of the whole thing. All day. So we used to bunk off school. Bunk off school and hang outside of God's like. Isn't that what you should be doing?

And there should be something like that in your life. I think in a way your time, when it happened for you, did you watch that recent boy band documentary? I've been asked about it. No, I didn't know. Well, it's interesting because I think it happened at a different time for you. So it's obviously, also as well, you have a different kind of, you're a musician. I don't know how much to say this politely, but you're a musician.

and an artist. And a lot of those kids were just good dancers. Yeah. And they could bang out a number. I have a theory about this. I feel like, you know, they've got five young men that didn't know each other. Yeah.

And they're all put together. Like, I mean, that's a social experiment. Totally. And it's like the other side of two brothers. That's literally the other end of that. Yeah. So we were two brothers, school boyfriend.

And we actually, we were in a band for Ciswick as well. I forgot that, Craig. Yeah. Sorry, Craig. I completely forgot about him. I was like, yeah. What do you mean?

And our friend, I went, my friend. You're in a Viz? No, go on. Biz used to call him Ken. Matt Luke and Ken. Yeah, I remember they did the funniest thing that Viz did, I loved it. They advertised that they're going to give away a free bross mug, right? So they, for two issues, that, two issues, and they said, like, you know, win a free boss mug, we're going to do it.

And the next issue is going to be a free bross mug. So you get a free bross mug with the, with Viz. And on the back, it was a cut out paper mug. we get to make me sell a tape fucking brilliant and it had Matt and Luke make me puke on it fucking brilliant

with Ken yeah with Matt and Luke and Ken it was brilliant that's brilliant then you know you've made it you made it true but other little things

four or five things that I felt like wow I made it it was we were on two two episodes of Only Fills and Horses were you

do you remember when Del Boy um like that he's getting off with a Rossette on a crew on the cruise and then he was like

that was the whole point and then also when we split up he says I've got merchandise for Nelson Mandala and Bross What the bung I want to do this Oh man I remember that well I remember not knowing to do what to do with my Grosch boots

I'm going to do with my Grosch boots Spit an image when will I start shaving Did you ever get a deal with Grosch? No Honestly the gloss we all had Grosch bottle tops Apparently their sales went up by one third And recently

It's on my Instagram Actually follow my Instagram And we'll watch this into this Yeah But they released the campaign Saying Bross turned this into an iconic Moment Not only did they not use our music

Right But they didn't ask us to be in the video And they've never given us one single bottle of beer What that's that right? So my dream Let me pitch this to you This is my pitch right So I want to do

I want to do like turn up looking really nice, nice whistle you know, gloss-bilt tops on the bottom on my shoes or eight tops that look like them on my shoes pan up like, you know, like the old Guinness is looking really fine take these off, throw them away and pick up a pint of London Pride or something

that's a proper beer like I want to get rid of it you should pitch that. You should definitely, you could just do it. That's a proper beer. Yeah, yeah. Whatever it is. How's the gross thing happened? Was that your design?

Well I was sitting at, I was having a photo shoot and like, you know, it can get a little bit laborious and, like, you're sitting in, and I'm just like having a beer and I took it off, like you dismantle things when you're bored, right? Yeah.

And I was like, oh, that goes, and I put it on my, it would fit perfectly on my Dot Martins. And then I was, I remember about a week later, I was going down the South, or was it, South, no, Kenny,

like Kenny Market. Mm. And, um, High Street Kensington. And I saw this, this girl had like this shoes on her, the bottle tops on her, Doc Martin's, I was like, what a coincidence?

Like, fucking, what's the odds of that? And I literally thought, what a coincidence? And I was not like, and then about 12 or 13 later that day, I was like, I thought, I think it might be a bit of a trend. And now we're still talking about grouch bottle tops. Isn't that that man? Oh, you don't know. Oh, you don't know.

So we all, back in the late 80s, because Matt put a grouch bottle top on his day on his did it on, so did we. We all, and what was really hard was, we were all like 13, forcing him like how do we get hold of a gralsh box? Yeah, get your dad. So how to get your dad to go, dad, can you go and get some grals? She's like, I don't drink grouch. You'd be like, yeah, but I need to be drink grotts.

No, she drank groulsh. So my dad literally went out, bought a bottle. Not all the brand had them bottle tops. No. And then you'd attach the grothed bottle tops to your shoes and then you go to, and in school we had a whole assembly about you're not allowed to wear grash potter tops. Yes, because similarly at our school, so around the same time, Beastie Boys and the VW signs.

Yeah. And everyone was nicking them off the phone of golfs. Yeah. We had an assembly about it and they went, will you stop knocking the VW signs off the cars that are parked? It was one of my first cars at golf before the band. Did anyone take your VW? No, but I bought a, I bought a silver and black car, a golf.

And then it started raining. The best car. Everyone wanted to go off. Everyone wanted to go off. Right. And it was a yellow car. It ended up being a very, very speckly yellow car. And then my mate actually had a car, a scorpio or something like that. And it broke in half.

A cut and shut? Yeah. broken half over a speed bump. Yeah, that's the cut of show. What? It's so dangerous. You can see the floor for it. Oh my God.

That is like people died in those. They were so big in the 80s, 90s. You get one cut half of one car, another part of the other cup. Well, and you're worried about self drives. That's mad. Thank you so much.

It's been such a pleasure. Thank you for coming on. Such great stories and pictures. Thank you. It's a real lift in my spirit. It's what a lovely, lovely duo you are. Before you go, I want to just talk very quick, just talk to us about your tour, what you're doing and where people can find you.

I am going all other, you just go to Ticketmaster or go to Matt Goss official.com. com. And or go to my Instagram, Matt Goss. And just get tickets at the usual places, really. I mean, I'm terrible at knowing exactly where, but it's just the internet. Yeah. Just Google it. Oh, can we come?

Please come. You come to Pledium. Oh, my God. Are you joking? Could we have bells on? Yeah. I'm going to have my phone. Rush.

I'd love it. I'd be really glad. Oh, that would be brilliant. Bring a couple of mates, whatever love. That'd be brilliant. When are you playing there? April, sometime. I think like the first week in April. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then we're going to have a little shindig after at some little restaurant if you fancy it. That sounds amazing. Yeah. Good luck with it. Thank you, Dawn. It'd be great. I'm Max Rushden.

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