Memory Lane with Kerry Godliman and Jen Brister - S04 E26: Russell Kane

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

"As soon as I walked in there was an 11/10... I'd never even kissed a girl... I'd been in VAGGANISTAN from birth..."Russell Kane brings the summer to a close in style!One of the funniest comedians ar...ound, he's lived a mad life and what a wonderful human he is too.Russell is on tour this autumn with Hyperactive, he has a children's book out now, he's making everyone younger with his anti aging pills and he has a great podcast too.PLUS... @kerryagodliman and @jenbristercomedy chat about their holidays.JEN & KERRY STAND-UP TOURSKerry's 2025 tour is on sale now - https://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/kerry-godliman-tickets/artist/1866728Jen's 2025 tour is on sale now - https://www.jenbrister.co.uk/tour/PHOTOSPHOTO 1: Me and my brotherPHOTO 2: FamilyPHOTO 3: FestivalPHOTO 4: FriendsPHOTO 5: School mates PICS & MORE - https://www.instagram.com/memory_lane_podcast/A Dot Dot Dot Production produced by Joel PorterHosted by Jen Brister & Kerry Godliman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:52 Conditions and exclusions apply. Hello, and welcome to Memory Lake. I'm Jen Brister and I'm Kerry Godleman. Each week we'll be taking a trip down Memory Lane with our very special guest as they bring in four photos from their lives to talk about. To check out the photos we'd be having a natter with them about, they're on the episode image
Starting point is 00:01:14 and you can also see them a little bit more clearly on our Instagram page. So have a little look at Memory Lane podcast. Come on, we can all be nosy together. Summer Audit. You just create jingles. Yeah. Summer Audit.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Did you have a good time? You liked France this time, didn't. I liked France. Because you didn't like France before, but you reviewed France and now you like it. Yeah, I like it. It's where you go, isn't it? You went to the northern bit before. Now you went to the south.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Yeah. Yeah. That's the difference. I was north and then I went south and I thought, oh, it's warmer here. And there seems to be more people. And they weren't so angry that I was there. Like, I really felt like Brittany. They were like, why are you here?
Starting point is 00:02:02 We don't like you. And I'm like, well, I thought this. was a touristy place. They're like, yeah, but you're not welcome. Okay, bye-bye. God, that's mad though, isn't it, Brittany? I'm glad you've said that because I won't bother now. I think Brittany is very beautiful, but one, there's nobody there.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Somebody needs to fill that place up. Two, I don't think they like English people. Right. In fact, I'm going to go so far as to say is that they actively dislike us. And number three, number three, there's nothing to do there. No. But now you went to the south Oh yeah
Starting point is 00:02:37 Had a great time The long, the long Long distance And you had loads of activities We were activated up to the max Right And 10 year old boys Ten year old boys
Starting point is 00:02:47 We were Yeah we were on pedos We were on bicycles We were on surfing things We were active We were such an active family And you had a good time We had a great time
Starting point is 00:02:58 And you weren't cross I wasn't cross I didn't even get cross For the entirety of that That is a bloody win. Yeah. Chloe got a bit cross. Did she?
Starting point is 00:03:07 She got cross with the weather. Because it rained. It rained. Yes. Because I stayed in your house and I said you having a good time and she said the weather is not good. No, the weather was really bad. Not all the time. No, I would say 90% the time.
Starting point is 00:03:19 The weather was great. And then we had like three days of solid rain. It was like insane. And here's the thing. Facts for all the people listening, where do I want to go on a holiday? Maybe I'll go to beer it. Maybe I'll go to beer its. Just to let you know, beer it's is the wettest part of France.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Is it? Yeah, because it's right on the Atlantic coast, but it's also not that far away from the mountains, from the Perraudne. And so it gets really wet there. Right. So it's got great for surf, really wonderful surf, but also it will rain all of the time. So we had three days of insane, just like insane rain.
Starting point is 00:03:51 The kind of rain where you go, I can't believe it's raining this much. That's how much rain we had. And Chloe, it got her down. But not me. I was, I was the yin and she was the yang. It was unbelievable. I just can't deal with that new development. You have to.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I just can't. You've got to lean into it. I was there like going, it's not that bad, I said. I kept saying it's not that bad for a holiday. They were like, this isn't great, mum. Board games, cards. We played so many.
Starting point is 00:04:18 We call it poo head. We call it poo head, but yeah. I feel bad that my kids were saying shithead probably too young. Because we went on the holiday with another family and they've got a younger one and they called it poohead. And I kept going, go, I'll play shit. And they were like, poo head. Yes, we call it poo head. I'm really tempted to call it to your head, but Chloe doesn't like any form of swearing.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Really? No, nothing. How does she put up with you? You're a potty mouth, Jennifer. I am a potty mouth. Well, the children have said to me, no one swears like you do, Mama. Would you say, if you make Kerry Goddly? I was like, well, Kerry does.
Starting point is 00:04:52 So, fuck you. It's really hard. It's really hard not swearing around kids. I like swearing. Like, I can't stop swearing. I don't think it's that bad. I don't think it's that bad. All the things like, people get really upset.
Starting point is 00:05:04 I'm like, do you know if there's really some really bad shit happening in the world? Don't get upset with me for calling your kid a cunt. And it is quite funny when really small kids wear. I know this is not allowed. No, it's bad. But I do remember when Elsie, when she was quite young, I think it might have been about Donald Trump or someone like, she was quite, he wouldn't have been in the news then.
Starting point is 00:05:25 It was someone and she went, hmm, he's a bit fucky. And it was so funny It is It was so funny That I just think Good Oh my God When was he first
Starting point is 00:05:40 2016 But he was kicking around Prior to that Wasn't he? Because you had to build him up Oh yeah There was two years of him Kicking about
Starting point is 00:05:48 So it would have been around then So what She would have been about six Oh my God That's so He's been around a while now And he He's been around
Starting point is 00:05:55 Around around Hasn he Oh God He's got to die soon isn't he? Let's hope so. Fingers crossed. Anyway, who are we talking today? Today we're talking to Russell Kane. Can you believe it? I know. I mean, I knew
Starting point is 00:06:07 he would bring some top drawer stories and he did. He absolutely did. I know, and he bought Brian. He bought Brian which was absolute touch. And he just chatted top drawer chat with a chihuahua on his lap the whole time. I don't think I actually forgot Brian was there. Well no I did because Brian was looking at me so I had to really struggle to
Starting point is 00:06:23 not give Brian on contact. Very big eyes. We're huge eyes. He had his eye on you. He literally had his bulging poppy eyes on me. Anyway, Russell was fabulous. As always, and so we really enjoyed this conversation. We hope you do too. This is the wonderful Russell Kane.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Oh my God, Brian is... I think Brian's going to cry. Okay, I'm going to get Brian. Brian was really sad when you left the room. All my mates were like, you fucking... Because I come from scum, don't I? So they're all like, you fucking going to walk down the street with that? You're like, yes, I am.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And you're embarrassed. The first day of walking. the dog i realized the catastrophic mistake they'd made in thinking thinking about they just thought i was going to have like homophobic abuse filled out of me can you guess what happened go on you don't get more than 10 meters before someone stops goes i love you're talking yeah all female oh i don't thank you and all the guys with staffs are like stood with other guys with staffs having like homoerotic experience like yeah you ever go all this through ever you lads i'm just so emotionally literate do you want to do my chihuahua get in a van ladies me bry
Starting point is 00:07:36 One of my pictures I've submitted because it shows how far I've come on my journey of health. Oh, let's do it. And one of the pictures was taken 30 years ago. And you're like Benjamin Button? Well, it's just basic. The science isn't like hard to understand, so I just don't know why everyone doesn't. But that's true of so many well-being things. True.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Like people that smoke and drink and can't work out while they're tired. You're like, oh, fuck off. Yeah, exactly. It's mental. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get four hours sleep a night and I smoke 20 a day and I feel like shit. Well, fuck off. I mean, you know, it's mad.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I mean, this one is great, isn't it? If I had a picture with me with the six-pack and the tits out, I would definitely do it. Look at that. That's a great picture. So that, that's at the end of July, me and Lindsay went to this festival. I'm not even telling people on camera where it is because I don't want any Brits to know about it. There's no VIP. There's phones are banned on the dance floor.
Starting point is 00:08:32 You can take photos around the tents, which is why I've got that photo. It's the best dance. music festival experience I've ever had in my entire life. And I've been to IB for at least twice a year since I was 18 every year. No, it's not in the, of course it's not in the year. Can you imagine? No, it's like that existing in the UK. But even though it was like a dome where the police finished,
Starting point is 00:08:51 one of the tents is here are the different drugs. This is the dose you should take for your body weight. This is what happens if you mix it with this. And there was free fruit at the drug advice tent. And where we were camping, the Germans are very naked, aren't they? They love being. So you're sort of sniggering and perving for the first hour. In fact, I had quite a bad day, but it was immediately cheered.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Everyone's fucking fit. The bloke's and the women just walking around naked. But in 24 hours, they were just nude. I didn't see one woman even get looked at, let alone fucking hassle. So there's like naked hot women lads off their tits just, yeah, oh, you're just talking. A vulva goes past their face. This avocado is organic, isn't it's close? Like, there's a British lady.
Starting point is 00:09:38 I would have had your neck. That's what it would have been like, wouldn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have one party in there. It's called the Naked Tea Party where you have to be naked to it. Obviously, once you go into the main dance laws, everyone's in festival clothes. But by the lake, people are just naked because you're just washing the lake, even those perfectly good showers. But it's just amazing washing in this lake.
Starting point is 00:09:53 It sounds like a sort of... Germany is... Everyone's naked. Obviously, I was in my cosy, because I'm repressed, Brit. And I was waiting to get out on the stairs. There's this hotish linties behind me. It's really hot jump. What's the water?
Starting point is 00:10:04 like is it good completely naked? I'm like, I'm just going to stay in for a couple more minutes. Oh my God. It's bad, isn't it? Because we're so fucked up in this country, we see a naked person. It's either a sexual or it's an innocent child nudity. We're not comfortable with anything in between. But the next to the camping area is like the tents.
Starting point is 00:10:25 We know like couple connection and yoga and poetry and all the Ponzi stuff. I love all that shit. I've lapped it up. But they close it off. And on the Saturday, it's a naked house rave. It's only about fits about 400 house music and you can't, you have to be new to go in. Obviously, I did not do that. No way.
Starting point is 00:10:39 But there's enough gaps in the fence so you can just see it like all these naked dancing hippies. And a mate of ours went in and he went, the funniest thing he saw was two, there was two guys, a gay couple. And this guy went to take some LSD and he coughed and the trip flew out of his mouth and landed on his partner's knob. That's going to go in a different way. They were looking for it.
Starting point is 00:10:58 But it's on my helmet, whatever that would be in German. Let me get it for your class. So which one is the first? I just, I've got to be honest. I was running really late. And you just couldn't pick four. I've just had my 50th birthday and Lindsay made this amazing book for me with all these photos and people had sent in thoughts about me. So I thought, I had literally had about an hour when I got in.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And I was saying, you'd not send your photos. So I just thought I'm going to pick five random from this book. So I'll be lying if I said I picked them with any sort of thought. I just, I just. Well, this is a good one. Yeah. That's me and my brother. Is that you?
Starting point is 00:11:41 No, I'm the older one. He looks like Paul McCartney. He looks like little Paul McCartney. So what's the age gap between you and your brother? Three years. So where did you grow up? Where are you from? So I grew up, spent a lot of my child in Enfield,
Starting point is 00:11:55 which is, I don't know, part of the problem with Enfield is, I mean, it says it's in London. It's Hartfordshire, isn't it? It feels like it's a combination of Hartfordshire and Essex and with a little bit of London, but it's sort of nowhere. That was the problem with it. Is it on the tube?
Starting point is 00:12:11 The Infer tail line. No, no way near. Right. No way near. You're a 20 minute train journey on some horrible branch line. Okay. And there's two sides of Enfield. There's the scummy part which became the Stab Capital by 2010, which is the half I obviously lived in.
Starting point is 00:12:24 And then there's like a posh bit where Hal Cruttenden lives. There is a posh bit. Yeah. I was going to say there is a pox thing. What a yin-yang of demographic you've just offered us. But my dad was from Barking in Essex and Leon C. Right. And that's where the family was.
Starting point is 00:12:38 And we had a beach hut there. So we would go there every weekend to South End. And I ended up living in South End eventually. I've lived in South End, Westcliff and Woodford. You talk a lot about your background on stage. So it's funny sort of asking you questions where I know the answers because I'm so familiar with your stand-up stuff. So the thing is, it's partly cynical and partly my real identity,
Starting point is 00:12:59 is when you're a stand-up, I'm obviously not explaining this to you, so I'm explaining to you're listening. You will do any identity thing you've got to talk about. It's really handy if you can mill it for, many purposes. So I've got working classness, which I talk about. Yeah. But I'm from the South. I'm straight and white. I'm male. So they're all
Starting point is 00:13:18 fucking no one's interesting. Nere it about those. But Essex is one of the few counties in the South that has stereotypes and cliches and identity you can play with. So I've sort of become like trans Essex. Even though Enfield is technically London. There's no way I could describe
Starting point is 00:13:35 myself as a Londoner by birth. There was no theatres or culture. There was just a dog ship park. And You know what? If you walked 10 minutes from my door, you were in Hertfordshire, 10 minutes, I think about 20 minutes that way you were in Essex. But we paid our council tax to London. So when you grow up without a sort of geographical identity and you've got a brain like mine, you start to think, what am I more like? And I'm more like, you know, my dad's more like, you know, white, we had former council house. We put pillars out the front of it. As soon as we bought our own counsellor, he applied for planning permission for Doric, greet, white pillars, which was denied because it was, I quote, spoiled the look. of the council street. That's why we denied it.
Starting point is 00:14:13 So he built square-shaped brick pillars, doubled the size of the house because we were an end of the terrace council house. We had an upstairs toilet. I thought we were like billionaires. And hired a digger and put a swimming pool in the back garden. I love you.
Starting point is 00:14:26 What? Halfway through. You had a swimming pool? Halfway through. It was 21 foot long, five foot deep. What? Fuck. But halfway through my dad's like,
Starting point is 00:14:33 I can't fucking do any more of this. So it was sunk to two and a half. So it looked like a two and a half foot full because two and a half was above the ground. half was under. And it was out of filter, chlorine, everything. It was a... This is great.
Starting point is 00:14:47 So that's why I identify with Essie. And my dad grew up is like lusting after places like, you know, Chingford, Epping, Norfolk. Rolexes, Mercedes, Robreuss, Lamborghinis. That kind of aspirational. Yeah, yeah. It was a steroid using vein weightlifting and his name was literally Dave from Essex. But this kid in this picture, what was he like? Tell us about the child, Russell.
Starting point is 00:15:10 So I've learned more about what I was a young person because Lindsay, poor cow, was given birth basically to, it's like she's just been used as an incubator for my clone. So your daughter's quite like you? She looks like me, sounds like me, mannerisms like me. She's got your energy and your... Everything is exactly, according to my mum, as I was. So as she's growing up, it's obviously releasing more memories in me because so much of it is like me. Probably, as with most children, particularly girls, they tend to...
Starting point is 00:15:40 sort of drift more towards a mum when she's a teenager. Yeah, yeah. For the first decade, it's like mini, mini me. Yeah, yeah. And so I was born bored. Bored, bored, fucking bored. Really? Bored.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And what did your mum do? How did she cut? She nearly had a nervous breakdown. She didn't know what to do with me. So my daughter from, you know, everyone's like, you need, is it, is it nature or nature? She took a week. She took a week to recover her energy from being born. I'll give her the first week, where she's,
Starting point is 00:16:10 She was a normal baby. If you put a row of babies, yep, she's doing all the normal shit. By about the third week, I was like, what I was seeing other people's babies do, my baby. This is like a fucking one-month-old baby tracking me around the room like predator. You know, with the heat thing. By the time we get to four months, she's not even sitting up. She's like, look at me, attention, look at me, engage, engage, engage, exactly what I was like. So you can imagine by the time we get to six, seven, eight months.
Starting point is 00:16:40 when she hit five months, and I didn't do this, but I had all the other traits, she started to pass out if she lost her temper. It's called involuntary breath holding. It's very, very common. But if you... To get your attention? No, she couldn't. She wasn't, she was so highly strong that I think we were just tucking her in.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I mean, it's just a milk slug at this stage. It just shits and eats. We were putting her in and she's like, eh, yeah, I'm keeping it. I know you can't keep that, darling where you're being going into your cot. offer and what happens is with this involuntary breath hold and as they go to cry the first in-breath just continues they're like they can't get that first cry and they go go blue go limp do a little so you think the first time it happens you think my child has just died in front of me and just as you're punching the nines into the phone the fucking thing comes around and it remembers
Starting point is 00:17:29 exactly where it was no it goes wheeh ah it picks up the cry and you did it when you were a baby i didn't do that but i but she's highly strong like i was but obviously she's another because Lindsay's not exactly like a wallflower so she's got it poor cow's got a double dose and um so i've been dealing with that she that she didn't your mum didn't have the sort of how did your mum cope with it when you were a kid um she could not she got me to the legal earliest she could get me into a play group for the longest time whatever it was then it was take him away it was it was quite old it was quite old back then if because obviously might come from a count we're in a council flat at this point so they had no
Starting point is 00:18:08 money so there wasn't like oh yeah just sort of dropped Sebastian off at the crash it's none of that shit yeah you got to wait till the state stuff kicks in yeah so it's 18 she had to do 18 months I was well ready for apparently for more stimulation before that and 18 months all the babies were like hugging the mum's legs going please please don't leave it and apparently I was like see up your up your eyes type thing just ran straight off how so how did like your mum cope with you as a child because you would have been bored at school yeah you would have been bored at home I mean What were your outlets? What were the things that interested you when you were growing up?
Starting point is 00:18:42 Had I been in a, like a, I don't say middle class because it was not really about wealth. Had I been in a house of learning and books? So your mum and dad weren't up into that sort of stuff? My nan was 39 when I was born, for fuck sake. So I think my great grandma was 58 or some shit. Right. My great nan did the grandmarring because my nan was an alcohol. mess, he'd spat all her children out when she was young.
Starting point is 00:19:10 So my mum was actually raised by her grandma. And then my mum was a kid when she got up the duff with me. So it was a, it's a sort of innocent sort of ignorance, really. Yeah. They never had a chance to learn stuff. Were they excited by it as well as being overwhelmed and fucking exhausted? What, by getting pregnant? By your nature?
Starting point is 00:19:28 Was there a bit of like, this kid is actually quite sort of special? I don't think working class people back then actually thought. No, I realized not maybe literally. But there might have been some kind of like, but I think without the internet and if your group is small, you just think, oh, my kid's a bit energetic. Right, that was how it would have been frail.
Starting point is 00:19:48 It's only in retrospect. My mum's like, oh yeah, you're a bit weird. I hate the phrase white working class. I don't believe in it as a phrase actually. But with working class boys, if you're very eager to learn, I wouldn't describe myself as bright because any intelligence test I take,
Starting point is 00:20:06 my intelligence is average. so I'll be lying if I'm not more bright than anyone else. I just really love learning. So I'll spend two hours studying something. I'm not hair and the tortoise. I always end up out running the intelligent kids. Right. But as soon as you get to 12, if you're in a council estate area,
Starting point is 00:20:23 that is the last thing you better fucking show at school if you want to survive. Right. Your value system goes into who can lose your virginity. Bitverts. Yeah, yeah. Who can be the, not thick, but you want to be in the sort of middle. You want to be tall, you want to be hard, and you want to try drugs as quickly as possible. Those three things will protect you.
Starting point is 00:20:44 And that's what you cracked on with? No, I had one thing that no one else had. I was funny. So I was able to navigate the bullies and make the girls be friendly with me. I never got any action, obviously. But I had as many female friends as male friends. So I was in with the hot popular girls. I was like gay best friends.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Can you remember sussing that out? Can you remember going, being funny is a superpower? No. It's an instinct, isn't it? Only on reflection, I'm like, shit, in English I sat with three girls. In there I sat with three girls. I sat with a girl in that lesson. I had male friends, but they were like, you know, people in the chess club or the nerds that are not going to lose their virginity till they're 80. I was one tier above the ones that smell of wee and get beaten up. There's a league above them.
Starting point is 00:21:26 You know, the ones that get beaten up every day and stink of piss and, you know, they end up having mental health problems because they're so badly bullied. I was one league just by sense of humour. I had the misfortune of being born in August, which means you're the smallest. You're the youngest. No fucking pubs. There's nothing going on. You know, the kids born in September,
Starting point is 00:21:46 I'll never get Daniel the Italian one with his bollocks were fucking swinging by the time he was 12. Oh, I remember the girls. Haring fucking knackers on the floor. Oh, there were girls with boobs and pubes. And you're like, oh, we're really different. We're periods at 11. Yeah, it's like, what? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:00 So, yeah, it would be. became a survival. So I didn't, none of this was conscious. I just knew I was happiest when more people liked me. Right. And I became a comedian. G, Sigman, figure that one of them. This episode is brought to you by Peloton. A new era of fitness is here. Introducing the new Peloton Cross Training Tread Plus, powered by Peloton IQ, built for breakthroughs with personalized workout plans, real-time insights, and endless ways to move. Live with confidence. while Peloton IQ counts reps, corrects form, and tracks your progress. Let yourself run, lift, flow, and go.
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Starting point is 00:23:58 I've got my passion for watches. I get a job on Bond Street selling watches. That's it. I'm in my fucking Burton suit. within a year I'm age 19 I feel like like a 40 year old man I'm tired I got eyebags I hate my life I'm raving every weekend
Starting point is 00:24:11 going way over the top like that warehouse raves every weekend and I met this I've gone through a couple of girlfriends have that first love thing eventually did lose my Virginia at 18 something by a miracle and I've met this new girl at work
Starting point is 00:24:26 a white girl and we did all we'd done at Liverpool Street Station was held hands and kissed That's it. And then she went, look, before we go on another date, I've got to tell you something. I've missed my period. And, you know, I'm not sure whether I'm pregnant from my ex or not. And I was like, oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:24:44 And her ex was black, which didn't mean any, meant nothing to me. I'm fucking going to jungle raves, do you know what I mean? I didn't even think how my parents would react. I didn't even occur to me in this century that someone could have a negative reaction to a white girl whose ex was of color, right? I feel bad because my dad's dead and it makes him sound demonic. It was a good geyser, but he just had shit views. Yeah. And I went home and told my mum and I was like, what do you think I should do?
Starting point is 00:25:10 She's going to get a pregnancy test than that. She's like, I think you should just fuck it off. You don't want to be in that situation. I went, well, I really like her. She went and told my dad. The next day, my dad was like, this is what's happening, boy. She's never coming in this house. She is not permitted to enter my fucking house.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Because if she does, and I'm really cleaning the language up for you guys, you'll have all sorts of people turning up, climbing the walls, your mother will be raped, your fucking brother, all of these stuff. That's a massively edited version of what my poor deceased, ignorant father said. And I said to my dad, mate, I'm on like nine grand a year. I'm giving you guys 150 quid a month keep to live here. Surely I should be allowed just to have a girlfriend over for a couple.
Starting point is 00:25:51 It's my fucking house. You don't allow nothing. And I went, I'm moving out today. And I went upstairs, got my bags, went to work with my bags and went home to my nans at night the alcoholic one
Starting point is 00:26:04 and that's how I moved out and you think that's a turning that massive I wasn't a lefty I wasn't like a lefty flag I didn't something I just said yeah it was something about that
Starting point is 00:26:17 where you're like no this is right I look back now and I'm really proud of my I was like wow that was a really sort of I didn't know anything about left all right just ignorant fucking chav yeah I hadn't even really You're emotionally outraged
Starting point is 00:26:26 and I still am yet to start reading. I'm 19. I'm still yet. Now, I'd had some good influences. My great, my great grandma, who I call grandma, yeah, cauliflower hair reading to me at night, and her older daughter, so my mum's mom's sister, my great aunt, she was like a bit, you know, read books and stuff. So I knew there was a distant world of books and culture. I get to my nans, and my nannes, I wish she was still alive. Obviously, she didn't make whole bones. She's like a fucking stick, grey hair, vodka from 7 a.m. to 4 p.m. every day of her life, 60 embassy field.
Starting point is 00:27:00 I lived with a cloud on the ceiling. I moved into a housing association flat and I was in a box room. I'm talking half the size of this room. And this is local to your mum and dads. Yeah, it's across the park, about a 25 minute walk. And I had no... What did your parents say when you moved out? Sorry?
Starting point is 00:27:14 Well, it was, we weren't talking for about six weeks. And then it slowly drifted back into Sunday lunch. Is this your... This is my mum's mom. The alcoholic one that never raised my mum. Right. That just went, there's the baby. Handed it to her mum.
Starting point is 00:27:27 and my mum was raised by her aunt and her grandma her grandma so I'm living in a box room hooks on the wall for my clothes I had to use a fucking built-up disability toilet I had to be lowered into the bath literally on my man and what did she think about you coming? These are her words her cripple lift did she say I saw her fucking loved it right she's a rebel so to have her sort of hardcore raving 19 year old 19 year old shagging a girl might be pregnant with a mixed race come over here where you belong boy my nan my auntie elaine and my I don't know if they know this, but fuck it, I'm 50 for fuck sake. My nan had a cabinet on the wall with a like traditional granny tea set, but it was called the drug cup.
Starting point is 00:28:07 And then weed would have, there's weed in the drug cup if you want anything, boy. I mean, it's just a teenager's dream. Wow. I used to come in from the watch. And she was, I don't know how she did it, because she's obviously off her tits, just the best cook. She taught me out to cook. Fucking Shepherds pie toad and the whole curry's just the beautiful cooking every night. Obviously, I'm baked as fuck.
Starting point is 00:28:25 And we used to have to put a pound in the TV to watch. shit because it was rented. Right. So we had to put a pound in the rented TV. TV rental. Oh my God. We were watching, extended together.
Starting point is 00:28:33 This sounds great. It was great. And then what happened was, the other thing that kept me out of danger at this point where it could have gone the other way. We had a roof, all my friends, we weren't on the street. We weren't going to pubs. We had a roof where we were welcome and we could be teenagers in a safe environment.
Starting point is 00:28:49 That's what's missing from a lot of towns. So we had, my nan, obviously, she didn't last past 5pm. Alcoholics never do. So she was long gone by 6, 7 p.m. Then all my mates were. over and we would just sit, you know, watching the word or hanging out. Yeah. That went on for about three years.
Starting point is 00:29:02 And my nan, this is the first bit of luck. And the second bit of luck is what pushed me into uni. She was exactly what I needed because she was whatever everyone else expects, fuck them. And what everyone else expected was get a shit job, be a fucking loser. Or my dad, you'd get a trade and you work till you die. I won't make cold boats. So I was like, well, what's the opposite? I was starting to think, what's the opposite of that?
Starting point is 00:29:25 and that girl dumped me by the way we never even slept together she went back to the ex and I was like and this is only about a month in and my nan came in what you doing
Starting point is 00:29:36 and I was like I'm crying and she hit me with her catchphrase which I heard countless times over the next three years she would get up
Starting point is 00:29:42 she's going to tell you something now and I went what and she went laugh and the world laughs with you cry and you're a cunt
Starting point is 00:29:49 fuck her dirty knickers that was the other one of those fuck her dirty knickers I was just like, it was like, I couldn't cry anymore. I was just fucking instantly sorted. Light bulb sort of, hang on. I was, I just wasn't, she wasn't pandering to my, because I'm quite a romantic, emotional for a bloke from my background.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah. Very in touch of my emotions. But the danger of being in touch of your emotions, you can go down a hole quickly. Yes, he can get existential bars. So I was having to bring girls, when I was trying to start a new relationship, I was having to bring girls back, you know, fuck it's like, no lock on the door, skid marks on the plastic attachment of the disability toilet. It was fucking bleak, mate.
Starting point is 00:30:29 It was bleak, but I was so happy. And you're still working in the watch place? Five, six days a week, in and out, right? So here I am, like, in feeling about 40. And this is, I still haven't found a way to phrase this without it sounded like something it's not. It was done in a positive way. It was done in an affirmative way. I kept this little diary where I just wrote notes or plans in.
Starting point is 00:30:51 And I thought, do you know what? I this is what I want to do. I want to just party and be a rave at and all the people I looked up to like the guy from the doors or all these people none of them made old bones and I looked at all the people
Starting point is 00:31:02 in my family that were over 40 and I was like there's nothing good there so what I want to do is it sounds so bad I wasn't suicidal that I thought I have no desire to live past 40
Starting point is 00:31:13 because there's nothing what's waiting to be old and doing a shit job fuck that so I'm going to party and I'm going to say yes to everything and I'll make sure I'm dead by the time I'm 40. That was my plan.
Starting point is 00:31:25 But I was so happy. It was completely, I was like the Bonnie Blue of raving. I was like, stick it in. And it was, oh, it's wrong, you're mentally ill. I'm not mentally ill. Another dick, please. But the rave version. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:38 And so everyone was telling me. But there were some real casualties from that era. I just, my brother's one of them. My brother is still very unwell. But I just wasn't. I don't know where it's the chemistry of how I'm made up. But the more I was just. I was never missed a day's work.
Starting point is 00:31:53 I never phoned in. Yeah, okay, you sobbed in the toilet on a Wednesday, all ravers did. But by Thursday I was getting the butterflies and... Ready to go again. The next thing. Wow. So that was going to... That was the plan.
Starting point is 00:32:03 And my nan backed it, of course, because she's a rebel as well. And then I was... It's a place called Strawberry Sundays in Vauxhall. It's such a good rave. It was... And we were so poor. You had to wait for the tubes to start. So you couldn't leave at four in the morning.
Starting point is 00:32:16 So I was like one of the few stragglers dancing next to a speaker at 6m. And I've always loved dancing. And this girl, I see this girl coming across the dancer, she's about that much taller than me. Clearly a fucking model. And she's just put her phone number in my hand. I like the meet. I've been watching you all night. And she was posh.
Starting point is 00:32:34 So I got home. Of course, she fucking can't get to sleep. So I called her at 8 a.m. Answer the phone. Two hour check. We're just in love like that. Straight away. You know what it's like sometimes.
Starting point is 00:32:43 She's in love. And I started seeing her. And she lived in this beautiful, detached mansion in Surrey. she was one year younger than me she was 18 I was 19 she's like I'm going to university in September I'm like where where London fucking yes and two miles down the road from my nans
Starting point is 00:32:59 I couldn't believe my luck where did she what what college was it Middle section middle section That's where I went They had an artistic campus at Cat Hill and she was into like sculpture sculpture and art She had body hair like it was such a fucking turn
Starting point is 00:33:11 I'd never been with such an intelligent free spirit I'm gonna take ecstasy I'm like I'm gonna grow my armpit And what did she make of you? How would she describe you to her mates? I think I must have been a lot for any girl back then. I was like, I was so eager to be loved that I was probably a bit intense.
Starting point is 00:33:32 But she loved you. She was attracted to you. But it was one of those summers of chemical intense. Yeah, and they fizzle out. They can burn out quite quick. But we get to September and this is the luck. Obviously, we're getting in from race. And why would I go back to my nans if I can sleep at student halls and we can shag loudly and all that?
Starting point is 00:33:49 So we get back to student halls. And what was happening on the Monday, I was getting up into my Burton suit, going to kill myself, diet 40, don't want to live. And she was like, right, I'm just off to drink cider and talk about Penguin Classics on the lawn with Ollie. And I looked at Ollie, and I was like, Ollie's the same height as me.
Starting point is 00:34:06 He's made of the same meat as me. He's British. He even looks like me. Why am I going over there to the shit train station for nine grand a year while he gets paid to read books that I remember being little and being interested in. And I went to work, literally one day, is a moment in time, I opened the book,
Starting point is 00:34:26 and I went, I've been ripped off. And today is the day I change my life. And I went home that night to my nan, and I said, I'm going to redo my fucking A-levels, and I'm going to go to the same uni and the same campus, and that will be my life instead. In everything that you do, you're so, I don't know, I don't know, belligerent isn't the word,
Starting point is 00:34:45 but you're so singular and you're so, driven and linear in the way you approach whatever it is that you're doing. Yeah, you don't get distracted. There's no, you're like, I'm doing that. That's what I mean because... Apparently that's part of ADHD, which I don't know. Don't jump on that bandwagon muscle.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Oh, everyone. What is no one else? I'm going to do a charity. I don't think you need it. I don't think you need it. I can diagnose you. We're doing a charity gig for people who don't have ADHD. No, there's been a lot of attacks recently.
Starting point is 00:35:12 There was one on my high street. Someone has been attacked for not having ADHD. But thankfully they didn't finish the attack. They lost focus. See, we're meant to stick with these pictures, but your story is, as I knew it would be. I had to just tell you, because there might be a teenage lad listening to this. And it was like, I want to be on stage. And I'm like, no, these are the steps I took.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Yeah. And you can do it out. Now you've got the internet. So the National Extension College have something called the Russell Kane Scholarship. Isn't that brilliant? You must be so proud of that. You know, do you ever get things like, you must get this where you achieve something, but it's so much you felt I better not reflect on that.
Starting point is 00:35:48 because it's too much. I don't have enough ego to go me. Yes, well, there is a culture of like, don't get cocky. But I think with things like that, it's different. It makes me too emotional is the answer. It makes me feel, I did another course called this Hoffman course, which is a psychological well-being course, and I'll speak about it on things like this.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And then some people have gone off and done it. I get about one letter a week, one letter a month, covered in tears. Thank you for telling me about this. I can't read them. Wow. Lindsay has to read them and sort of summarise them for me. I find them too much.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Have you put this picture written? This one? This one. It's one of my favourite things that happened last year. What? What is it? One of my favourite people in my life is my... Oh, these masks.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Are these masks? No, right. So, listen, it's a very funny story. I'm going to get in shit for telling this. So one of my favourite people in my life is my niece, yeah? Yeah. And my niece is not my brother's, will never have children. It's on Lindsay's side.
Starting point is 00:36:54 And our niece has only just come into our lives at 14. She had a bit of a troubled slot, whatever. I won't go into that. And we really all rallied around as a family. I managed to get her in a scholarship in this really posh score. You know, you just try and say, well, that won't work. And they're like, yeah, okay. I thought, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:37:11 You know, I'm in there. And she is, obviously, I'm biased. But she's unusually, like, Japanese violin. She likes to wear Victorian glasses. She's a real nerd. She likes books. We fucking get on like that. I've just been showing.
Starting point is 00:37:23 We just went to visit Oxford University together. She's just turned 18, but she's a year behind academically at school. So she'll be 19 and she goes to uni. And I think the way she dresses is fucking brilliant. Right. I love what she wears like blazers and trousers and hats and all their shit. And some people in the family would rather, because the danger if you dress differently is you might attract more attention. But when we're out, we went to Cotswls, and all the Americans, like, you look amazing.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Can they take a photo of you? So I think she's great. So I started to wind my mother-in-law up because my mother-in-law is like, Katie was looking at a top hat. And I said, I'm going to get Katie that top hat so she can walk around in a really tall top hat. And then, you know, my wife and my father-in-law is like, you know, don't tell her that. She already wears enough, you know, attention-seeking hats. So I told me and Katie Hatch to wind up where I was going to start to start. talk about something that didn't exist, which you're now looking at, which is why it's been
Starting point is 00:38:26 made by AI, called Victorian Grand Hats, which after Queen Victoria passed, the taller your hat was, the higher your respect. And it got to the point in 1906 where you had to put your neck into a brace. And I could see, like, my in-laws going white as I'm selling this into Katie. That night, I generated that picture on AI and sent it to everyone. And they're like, I don't get one of I really wonder. And then I found a party. We were on holidays while I was doing it. So I contacted all the local party shops.
Starting point is 00:39:00 I was like, what's the biggest novelty top hat? You'll get to me at the camp, this campsite thing we're staying at. And I pretended it had been gifted. We'd been to an antique shop the day before and they were fans of my stand up. And I pretended they decided to gift Katie,
Starting point is 00:39:13 this Victorian top hat, mate. I thought it was going to be really funny. So I put it on this massive hat. It didn't go down well. No. No, what happened? Why? Because I think it was just seen like I was trying to upset people.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Oh, man. But I was crying. Thinking about it. We were just crying laughing. That is great. That's what AI is for. So, yeah, the grand hat. But it's a lesson in, the reason I've included it is my whole life, I've never, I don't like to conform.
Starting point is 00:39:46 So as soon as someone says to me, you can't do that. You know, you're 50, you can't go to I bifery anymore. I'm not going to go three times. is she, you cunts. Yeah, yeah. And the most stand-up, slow down by the time they're 35. Okay, I'm going to go for 20 more years at a higher capacity just to prove you wrong. Well, you've outlived your original intention.
Starting point is 00:40:03 By 10 years. So I love, okay, obviously she's got a lot going on, but she's just someone that's just says, this is who I am. Yeah, and her energy. I'm going to express myself. Yeah. And that she's had some opportunities that you didn't get to have as well. She's smashing it.
Starting point is 00:40:19 She's like predicted like Frey's in a family. foundation course that she'll do, and then hopefully she'll do history of art, Oxford. I know I'll just pathetically live my dreams through her. Well, that does sound fabulous. Hit pause on whatever you're listening to and hit play on your next adventure. This fall get double points on every qualified stay. Life's the trip. Make the most of it at Best Western. Visit BestWestern.com for complete terms and conditions.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Fly the seven-time world's best leisure airline champions, Air Transat. Tim's new Cravable Raps are made for the times your boss said the what now? Or your teacher mentions that thing I'm a bob. Need to pick me up? Snack back to reality with Tim's new Cravable Raps, available in Chipotle or Ranch. Plus tax at participating restaurants in Canada for a limited time. Who's all these lads in suits? So what happened was, this is, so here I'm 17, right, so I'm 17.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Oh my God, this is Pete Burton's, isn't it? I'm 16 to 17. I just left the school I was talking about with my kiss genity intact, let alone my virginity intact. Is this you at the end? That's me doing a Rickmast. Do you recognise that face that I'm doing? It's Rick Mal what it's supposed to be. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Yeah, yeah. I like the curtains. Curtains were big then. They're back now. They're back now. Yeah. I'm not going on board with them now. Some of breasty jacket.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I didn't even lose my kiss genit. Every single person in that photo had either shagged or snogged a girl except me. That's unbelievable. Can I just say that the face you're pulling and the haircut might not have helped? No, no, do you know what? That doesn't help with. What, this guy? This guy here. That is my best mate, Dan, who I do my life extension business with.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Is it? That's who I've been to Ibiza with twice this year. Is he the guy in the other? Is he one of these guys? Where's Dan? He's not in that. He was at that party. I don't know where he is. He must have been at the bar. Right. That's great to still have your best mate from school. Two of those people in that picture are in the other picture. So all of my friends, my, my, my, my, my, my mum, most recent friend is from 16. I've known Martin on the left there since I was 11 and Wayne since I was six.
Starting point is 00:42:36 That's, to be honest, that does surprise me because the story, where it's rare anyway, but the story you just told about your journey and you'd think in a way that maybe you'd leave behind some of the friendships. So what did they make of this journey that you were on? Everyone just always thought, oh, that's Russell. But they must have loved you and you had great friendships. Yeah, me and Dan, the one with the blonde curtains, he's the only other person I had in my environment
Starting point is 00:43:02 that was interested in science. And we didn't just talk about, you see that fitting. It was like, yeah, so the vagina works like this. What is the clitoris? They're like, we were the only ones that were taught that were really interested in the science of a woman's body. But did they all feel similarly to you about the kind of like shittness of the circumstance?
Starting point is 00:43:19 No one has got cursed with my annoying self-reflect. That's just doing people, isn't it? Well, I don't overthink things. And they all got, jobs and cracked high. They're all like leading north. They're all just regular lovely bloke. But Dan is the only one.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Dan's house across the park. He's had the only dad who was cultural. Right. So he would go, he did watercolours. He worked in cancer research as a scientist. He did bonsai. And he would sit down sometimes. And we were 13 year old lads just eager for information because there's no sex education.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Ask me any question. And I will answer it in a full scientific manner. When do we start wanking? You'll know, you'll know when to stop. It's nothing to worry about you. You manipulate the penis. And eventually some fluid comes out. That is the ejaculate.
Starting point is 00:44:07 And that's how he spoke. And that's how Dan speaks. Right. He's a carbon copy of his dad. That's great. And so I had someone in my environment that was science and fun and knowledgeable. So maybe Dan's been a big influence in my life. And is Dan also, is that the direction he took in terms of education?
Starting point is 00:44:25 and does he work in science? Dan didn't end up going to uni but he ended up being very successful he worked as a qualified as an audiologist like an ear an ear doctor technician thing then he ended up starting as a successful tech company and now him and Lindsay are just killing it with Joel my life extension I mean to be doing a business with my best mate we met swimming lessons when we were eight because we were at different primary schools and we were both being naughty and jumping in together and so we just became friends straight away we've been friends ever since but so in that photo The reason I've included that photo and where that photo was taken was I never got to go on any of the school trips
Starting point is 00:44:58 because my mum and dad couldn't afford it. So I had to hear about them from everywhere else. But when we were 15, 16, it was the school trip to France. That was the one to go on. But my dad was like, no, can't afford it. Sorry, boy. But still went out for courage twice a week and bought 50 quids with the lottery tickets anyway, Dad. So they came back.
Starting point is 00:45:15 And Colin, who's not in the pictures, but he's like part of the nerd group I still play Dungeons and Dragons with. Former Q ladies. And he, even Colin got action on this holiday. And he's like, oh, I'm a goblin. And even he got off with a girl. And the reason he got off with a girl, it was one of those centres. You know that schools use and you do all activities. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:36 The other school was a girls school, a posh girl's school. And our only contact had been working class girls. Don't touch that. What do you think? I'm a slag. That's where toilet comes from. It's not going up there. Go out me out.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Or as the posh girls, like, do me in the stable. Yeah, yeah. Just fuck me. So they were like different creatures to us. They were completely unsexual reprove. I thought we're all fucks. Why wouldn't you? It's just the same as the farm animals.
Starting point is 00:45:57 They were all like that. So Dan had instantly pulled this girl. Ginny was like fit as fuck. She was like, I'm not going to sleep with you. I will give you a blowjob if that's okay. No one in my year had had a blow job. And her name wasn't Ginny, but Gina. Sorry, Jenny.
Starting point is 00:46:12 And so they came back and I remember Dan just being sat in the playground describing what a blow job. But there must have been 30 of us. Oh, my God. So, and Colin had ended up shagging his, the girl he was with. And he was, as boys, you're eager for information, mechanical detail. Yes. For some reason, no one wants to give us.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Instructions. Not porn, but mechanical instructions about a woman's body would be really fucking useful earlier on in the British education system, please. But it's not, it's done at 14. Every other country with less STDs and less teenage pregnancy, guess what? They teach it at five. We get it at 14.
Starting point is 00:46:52 And the reason we don't get it till so late in this country is because the right of this country say, they've tried many times to bring in sex education for five-year-olds and above. And they say, we're not going to do it because you're teaching sex to children who aren't yet sexualized. So you're making them think about sex when they're not yet thinking about. Well, they're not fucking thinking about the tudas either, are they? So let's not teach them fucking anything in case they behead each other at break time. Moron. Anyway, so we get back.
Starting point is 00:47:18 We're hearing all these stories about these posh girls that were, were liberated and empowered. There was no talk of the easy or any misogynistic language like that. I don't associate with any boys like that even back then. We were excited to meet empowered women that were like, this is the body, and we fuck. And we are, they exist.
Starting point is 00:47:36 And so I found out that this school was having a school ball in High Wickham. And if we all got suits, we could be plus ones for these girls. And they all picked a boy. And a girl I'd never met kindly let me be a plus one. And we went to that school. that night
Starting point is 00:47:52 and as soon as I walked in there was a blonde a blonde girl and Ginny the compliment sorry Gina came up to me and was like my friend fancies you straight away that one over there
Starting point is 00:48:01 and I was like there's no way a girl that looks like that could find me a like it was like an 11 out of 10 I just couldn't believe it I'd never even kissed a girl in my life I never had nothing
Starting point is 00:48:12 yeah I've been in Vagghanistan from fuck all right and I think I'd even stopped wanking because it was like having a starter when you couldn't
Starting point is 00:48:21 eat. And so my mate, and I was like, I can't, I can't, I can't get this. And my mate Wayne, who's, who's one of the ones that you saw in the picture with the glasses, he looks like Ray Winston, but he's also in that picture. He took me around the corner. Let's say he gave me a slug of whiskey. Yeah. In a Rizler. And, uh, and I just walked back in and I just went, do you go for a walk? So I said, that's, he said, that's all you got to say to a girl is, would you like to go for a walk? That's the kind. That's my stupid, that's the most stupid, What does that mean? She went, trust me.
Starting point is 00:48:52 If she likes you, she'll go for a walk with you. And that's it. And a full tongue kiss. I was nearly 17. She was so hot. And when we finished kissing, it's really pathetic. I was like, like, nearly crying where I was instant. You know, it was just instantly in love.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Yes. Oh, it was happening to me. And then I was with that girl for three years. That was my first relationship. So that, if it was, this is why I mean, the class system fucked up every aspect of my life. Yeah. Because the girls I grew up with were made to feel like they were slags or slats or You go with a boy, you're a slag.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Whereas really, like, female pleasure is no different to male pleasure. Yeah, yeah. It's the fucking dark ages. Like, women need to own their pleasure and all this shit. My wife's educating me even now. Yeah. About sort of female desire and female pleasure. And to be married to a woman, as I am, who is in touch with her own desire and her own pleasure, is fucking amazing.
Starting point is 00:49:46 I would recommend it to all straight men and gay women, actually. Because once a woman is in touch with that part of herself, it's really exciting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. That's the Viagra of women. What do you mean the Viagra of women? Understanding the power of your own pussy is like, as my wife phrases it, is like Viagra. She just went on this female empowering, one that calls to Barcelona, right? It's a two-day thing where an American woman comes out and goes, you're beautiful.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Look at yourself in the mirror, ladies. And she said, look at your Vaj in the mirror. It didn't quite go that far, but it was a lot of... All that shit was going on. the 70s. It was a lot of dancing and self-expression and Lindsay was like,
Starting point is 00:50:24 look, we can get a cheeky night in Barcelona. Why don't you come and meet me on the day of the last course? I'll get my mum to do some childcare and we'll go out. I've got a nice shirt
Starting point is 00:50:32 all dressed up and I turned up at the hotel. I booked a beautiful restaurant for dinner. She opened the door. She didn't have fucking dressing going and greasy hair.
Starting point is 00:50:39 No makeup. I went, are we going out? She was like, no. Just won't be in through the door. She's been on a workshop. She's like, I've learned some stuff but I'll let's try it out. In the last.
Starting point is 00:50:51 I love Lindsay from the moment I laid eyes on her and we've always had an amazing I don't know, be like a Greg Wallace and Overshare but we've always had a great sex life but to see her change in the last five years is fucking amazing and it was what I saw in that picture which I thought was to do with class and poshness
Starting point is 00:51:11 but it was females that had been brought up to be in touch. Yeah, self-possession and the sense of yeah and understanding you and who you are and this is what I'm This is why it makes me laugh about men. They're their own worst enemies. You're fucking slap up. You're the one causing yourself to not get laid.
Starting point is 00:51:30 You're the one suppressing women's sex strikes. Because when you use language like that, it stops females getting in touch. There is sexual repression across all the classes. That is not exclusively aware of class. I just can't believe it. This girl's like, oh, good. She was 16. She was a year younger.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Yeah, yeah. And we were just in love. I was like, like, alien John Hurt. I never. been so in love. It was like getting Ebola or something. I was almost throwing up. I didn't know what's happening to me. It was so strong. You feel things really deeply. Very strongly, Russell. Well, all 16 year olds do, but I never, I never ever, I suppose I am like that with Lindsay now, but I think those first two relationships with that girl and the one from
Starting point is 00:52:12 the uni, the one after, it put me off for a little while because when those relationships ended, I was physically vulnerable. And I thought, I don't ever want to someone to hold my life in their hands. And of course, you have to be in love. Yeah, you have to be vulnerable. You have to be vulnerable to the point where you think I could die if that person wasn't with me. That's what real love feels like. It's fucking terrifying.
Starting point is 00:52:38 But it's also like, it's so amazing. I went and did this podcast in. 2020 when you were just allowed to start doing stuff with Stephen Bartlett called Diary of the CEO. Right. And he'd researched me, but he hadn't looked up my date of birth. And he was like, you are? And he stopped all these questions. He went, can you just tell me what you're doing?
Starting point is 00:53:08 Skin care-wise, what Botox? I don't have Botox. Don't have filler. Any fake thing in my head is that. I do have actually Botox injected in these because they're too prominent. Right. I don't have any, all my lines. And I went, well, I do this, this and this.
Starting point is 00:53:21 I do this in the morning, this at night. My fucking social media went nuts. Not for can I have comedy tickets, but for, give me exact details. My wife is a very clever, entrepreneurial person. She was just winding down one of her businesses.
Starting point is 00:53:35 She went, why does no one do an all in one of what you're talking about? Because when I'd go to describe people what I'm doing, they glaze over at the expense. So what we're talking about a regime, supplements? Supplements. Right. So I take hundreds of different things.
Starting point is 00:53:48 And she went, what the top 10 with evidence? I went these. It's unequivocal. call and I went in the top five of these out of those 10. She went, right, I'm going to take seven and see if I can turn it into a once a day three pill supplement thing. And obviously with me talking about it and the older I get, it's just, and it's growing.
Starting point is 00:54:06 But you're combining this with exercise and with what. You can't just take these and look great. You can't have a Burger King and a sat back. Yeah, exactly. You've got to put some lifestyle in it. It's almost a paywall on our website that says, do not give us your fucking money if you haven't got, we call them the pillars of wellness. So that's obviously diet and exercise. The two things Brits don't want to do.
Starting point is 00:54:26 But also sleep, good sleep. And the really important one is stress and relationships. This is the one people neglect. They're in the gym. They're getting their sleep. They're getting their organic pre-made food delivered. They fucking hate their wife. Yeah, or they're getting into like confrontations every day.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Or even just, you know, online, that kind of adrenaline. Yeah, cortisol. So once you've got those in order, then an. Only then. Please don't even research our business. If you're not willing to work on those first, then you can supercharge everything with evidenced-based supplementation. Well, man, you're a good advert for 50.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Thank you so much for that. No, thank you. Also, we didn't talk about comedy, really, at all. When does this go out? When's this go out? All right, I've got a few tickets left because I've added a greedy capitalist fourth leg of the tour. and where I've already been to all of those towns once, as you can imagine, I do need little assistance. So yeah, there are a few tickets available at a few obscure places, but I would love them to be full.
Starting point is 00:55:32 So, Russellcane.com.com.uk, I'm definitely not adding any more dates. The kids book is doing really well. It's all about dog and pet selector. It's all about dog and cat breeds. I'm touring it around primary schools. The kids love it. And obviously, probably a competitor podcast, Evil Genius. Yes. Which is a great podcast. It's a brilliant podcast. I've tied myself in knots on that podcast.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Yeah. And then we're doing evil animals now as well, which annoyingly that people seem to prefer. So it's like we're taking a gerbil or a hamster or cats or maggots we've done in one episode. Thank you, Russell. We're in rush hour now, sorry, mate. By the way, we did my recap. We haven't done yours. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:18 No, I had, right. Okay. Okay, can we just audit your summer holiday? Yes, I had a great summer. You went to Greece. I went to Greece. You know, I love Greece. I know, which island did you go to?
Starting point is 00:56:27 Corfu. And would you recommend it? I would highly recommend it, but then I don't want to recommend it because I don't want everyone to go. I think the, I might have heard of Corfu, sure. I think a few people have heard of Corfu. But I don't want to specify the region we were in because it was quite quiet and I liked it like that. Right. So, I mean, sure, people have heard of Corfu.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Yes. But I quite liked the quietness. The quietness of the way you went, which was the north-south. South East. I'm not saying. North, northeast. Not saying. Not saying.
Starting point is 00:56:53 It was really lovely. It was very beautiful. We had a really nice holiday. Went with some friends. Elsie came for some of it. Then she left because she's 18. So she's got other shit to do. She's about to leave home.
Starting point is 00:57:03 That's what's going on for me. That's quite a lot. My first born child is about to go to uni. Now, I saw a clip on the internet, which I nearly forwarded to you. And then I thought, don't forward it to Kerry because you won't appreciate it. But then I think maybe you might have appreciated it. It was a clip of a woman. talking to Canberra, she's crying. And she's crying because her sons are going to uni.
Starting point is 00:57:27 And they've flown the nest. And she can't cope. And she's like, I want, and she's like, I'm grief-stricken, I'm depressed. I don't know what to do with myself. People just say, keep telling me to keep busy, but I can't keep busy because all I can think about is that my children aren't here. I miss them so much. I don't know how to get through the day. Can anyone help me? And she's in, she's absolutely beside herself. She's in tears. And I thought, I'll send that to Kerry. And then I thought, hmm, there's nothing helpful in this post about. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:57:54 I was about to say it then. And then, da, da, da, da. No, no. So it's just despair. Yeah, but then I think the whole point is I didn't read the comments. So I presumably underneath people would have gone, Oh, my son left. And I also feel the same.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Oh, don't worry. You get through it. You get through it. And then they come back. I mean, I've also still got Frank. So it's not as if there's not going to be anyone at home. Yeah, that's true. And he's a bit, he looks a bit jumpy about the prospect of having all my attention.
Starting point is 00:58:18 You do keep telling him. And yeah, I just think it's part of life and you've got to feel it. Feel the feels. Feel the feels. Yeah. And get on with things and that's life, the changing of life. The new seasons, the new chapters. The new chapters.
Starting point is 00:58:32 And get yourself a gig in Liverpool. Because I know that Elsie would absolutely love to see you. I've got a gig in Liverpool. Because I'm going back on the road. I'm re-touring bandwidth for the autumn and I make sure I'm going to Liverpool. I'm Max Rushden. I'm David O'Daraddy. And we'd like to invite you to listen to our new podcast.
Starting point is 00:58:57 What did you do yesterday? It's a show that asks guests the big question, quite literally, what did you do yesterday? That's it. That is it. Max, I'm still not sure. Where do we put the stress? Is it what did you do yesterday? What did you do yesterday?
Starting point is 00:59:14 You know what I mean? What did you do yesterday? I'm really down playing it. Like, what did you do yesterday? Like, I'm just a guy just asking a question. But do you think I should go bigger? What did you do yesterday? every single word this time I'm going to try and make it like it is the killer word what
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