Memory Lane with Kerry Godliman and Jen Brister - S04 E30: Jack Skipper

Episode Date: October 22, 2025

"Don't buy this pate again, it's disgusting!"The cool (and funny) as you like Jack Skipper is on the pod this week!The way Jack approaches life is such a joy and his comedy is brilliant.- Check out his current tour dates and follow him on insta - you won't regret it.Jack's last few tour dates - https://jackskipper.com/live/PLUS... Kerry and Jen chat about biscuits, pickled eggs and Kerry's many odd sayings.JEN & KERRY STAND-UP TOURSKerry's 2025 tour is on sale now - https://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/kerry-godliman-tickets/artist/1866728Jen's 2025 tour is on sale now - https://www.jenbrister.co.uk/tour/PHOTOSPHOTO 1: Me and my grandadPHOTO 2: Happiest daysPHOTO 3: TravellingPHOTO 4: My familyPICS & MORE - https://www.instagram.com/memory_lane_podcast/A Dot Dot Dot Production produced by Joel PorterHosted by Jen Brister & Kerry Godliman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

That's annoying. What? You're a muffler. You don't hear it? Oh, I don't even notice it. I usually drown it out with the radio. How's this? Oh, yeah.

Way better. Save on insurance by switching to Bel Air Direct and use the money to fix your car. Bell Air Direct, insurance, simplified. Conditions apply. Tim's new Cravable Raps are made for the times your boss said the what now? Or your teacher mentions that thingamabob.

Need to pick me up. Snack back to reality with Tim's new craveable wraps, available in Chipotle or ranch, plus tax at participating restaurants in Canada for a limited time. Hello. And welcome to Memory Lane. I'm Jen Bristair. And I'm Kerry Goddlyman.

Each week we'll be taking a trip down Memory Lane with our very special guest as they bring in four photos from their lives to talk about. To check out the photos we'd be having a natter with them about, they're on the episode image and you can also see them a little bit more clearly on our Instagram page. So have a little look at Memory Lane podcast. Come on, we can all be nosy together. Can you hear that? Oh, that's how hungry you are.

That's my stomach. And you've eaten lots of biscuits. I've eaten two biscuits. Is that a lot? And then we had our biscuit chat. Wait. Okay. I offered you a biscuit.

And I said I don't even like biscuits. You don't even like biscuits. And then you went into it. I don't even like cake, which is weird because it's been around your house several times when you've made cake. Yeah, but I don't. You've baked cake. Yeah. Well, this is what, there's a cult of cake.

You've offered me cake and we've eaten cake together. And now you're telling me you don't even like cake. No, okay. Okay, maybe I exaggerate it. But I don't like biscuits. I think biscuits are completely out of control. What are you talking about? Biscuits. Everyone's got biscuits.

They've got a tin for biscuits. They've got like, you go to work, want a biscuit. Oh, you want to come to eating a biscuit? And he's like, what's this fucking biscuit shit? Wait a second. Everyone's got biscuits. Yeah. Wherever you go, someone's offering you a biscuit.

Everywhere I go, someone offers me a biscuit. In a green room, you're having a biscuit. There's always biscuits. You put around and mate's house as biscuits. Yeah. You go to the park. Oh, someone with a dog walking. Would you like a biscuit?

Who's got biscuits? Everyone's got biscuits. Okay. And I don't really, if I'm on. now we're getting down to it, I don't really like biscuits. Right, I'm never going to offer you a biscuit. Never, offer me a biscuit. I won't. I won't. And these are the things you can offer me.

Pickles. Okay. Right. So if I offer you a cup of tea and a pickle, that's what you want. Lovely. Okay. Carry on. Lovely. Thank you. Yeah, it's good for gut health. And it's a nice taste. So, where... I could eat pickles all day. Well, you talk about pickle cucumber, pickled onions. You can pickle anything, mate. I know you can. Don't pickle a biscuit. Pickle egg? Um, um, I do draw the line. Really? I have got pickle boundaries.

You got pickle boundaries. I don't want a pickled egg. Okay. Because the farts. The farts, man. Have you ever been at a chippy? The big jar. And they've opened it.

I don't think I have. Oh my God. It's like somebody's died. Fuck. And it wasn't me ordering the egg. Somebody else went, can I have one of those eggs? Oh, yeah. And they're on the counter.

Yeah. So we're all at the counter. Yeah. They opened that jar. Yeah. Oh. I can see that biscuits are less problematic than a pickled egg.

I mean, I haven't ever seen a pickled egg come up. No. And a biscuit has never upset anyone as much as a pickled egg. I mean, like, in terms of smells. And also, these biscuits were nice that I was offering you. It was a ginger ring. I don't know if you've never heard of a ginger ring. And I do like a ginger biscuit, but I don't know.

You know, sometimes you blunder into an innuendo and you don't even realize until you're fully immersed in it. Yeah. I didn't realize that was doing an innuendo. You didn't want that ginger ring. I had too. You really wanted that ginger. I really wanted it. Not just one.

Anyway, I said to you, nippy-noppy-n-n-dor. Okay, yeah. Because it's cold. And that's a little phrase that I've got for when I'm cold is, oh, it's nippy-noppy-n-n-dores. Is that your phrase? I don't know where it comes from. I hope it's.

And me and Ben say it. Nippy-noppy-noddores. Oh, it's a bit nippy-nop-nobie-n-dores. I mean, where does it come? I don't even know where it comes from. I don't even know where it comes from. I don't know where it comes from. Then I said to you, do you have phrases that you have with either a sibling or family or your partner that you just have as your little phrases?

No. Oh shit. Nothing. I mean, I can't think of anything. Just little cute phrases. Oh God, don't be so appalled by the notion of cuteness. Oh. Just silly things.

Do I have any little cute phrases? Do you miss pronounce things intentionally? Like we say necessillary on purpose. Is it on purpose? You malaprop all the time. I know. But that's when I do intentionally. So I say necessary, not necessary.

My nan said it and now my kids say it. So whenever they say necessarily, they say necessary. Well, because my son doesn't know how to pronounce vegetables. Vegetables. You've kept it. Well, just keep it. Okay, ventricables. Just keep it.

And then you've got one of these little cute things. That's it. We've got venturables. I used to have an agent who said your casting is on that street between Greek Street and Dean Street. And I go Frith Street. And she couldn't say Frith. She couldn't say Frith. Couldn't say Frith.

Oh wow, that's fascinating. Yeah, and I'd have to work. She sounds posh. She was posh. She said, darling, darling, I've got to a meeting. It's on that street between Dean Street and Greek Street. And I go, Frith Street. And she'd be like, I can't say it.

She can't say it. She couldn't say Frith. Wow. So go with nippy, noppy, nine doors. You can have it. You can go home today, now that the weather's turning and say to Chloe, see what she thinks. And don't bring attention to it. Just say it like natural.

Just say, just go, wait, it's bit nippy, noppy, nine doors. And see. The pleasure it will bring her. If I go to Chloe and say it's a bit nippy, noppy, nine doors. Yeah, okay, say it like that. Do it as you? Okay. All right.

I think there'll be an intervention. I'll be Chloe. I'll be Chloe. I'll be you. Shall I put the heating on? I think you ought to because it's a bit nippy, knobby, nine doors outside. Whoa. You didn't even try and say it normally. Okay, well, okay.

Who's saying that normally? All right, okay. Me, me. I'm saying on. Okay, okay. Oh, I might get a jumper. It's getting cold, isn't it? Yeah, it's a bit nippy noppy nine doors.

Bang. Oh, okay, that felt good. Yes, you see? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a great phrase. It's a great phrase. And you're going to have it. Well, apparently not just me.

We've got it out there in the ether. If I had to, I think I do remember where it comes from. Oh, my God. I think comes from Lenny Henry. I think he used to say. It's a bit nippy noppy nopi nopi nondon. Oh, my God, my brain just like cleared up. Do you know what?

We would have probably had Lenny Henry on the blow going, you didn't make that up. That's for me. I'm going to find out. I'm going to find out. Well, at Lenny Henry, let us know. I think a lot of the funny phrases that are in my brain are probably just from comedy sketches.

Like, Handy Bendy Gandy is right in there. And I say that all the time to be like, oh, that's Handy, Bendy Gandy. Anyone under, do you remember the Handy Bendy Gandy? Oh, Jesus, right. It was a brilliant sketch on three of a kind where they did an advert for the Handy Bendy Gandy. And it was this doll of Gandy that was handy and bendy. and it said complete with toga and podium. And it came in a toga and a podium.

And it was the handy, bendy, gandy. And now I can't say, oh, that would be handy without saying, oh, but it's handy bendy gandy. Handy bendy gandy, okay. Okay. I'm just a product of the 80s. We're all a products of the 80s. So nippy, noppy dine doors is from a comedy sketch from the 80s.

I bet there's more. I bet there's loads of them in there that I just... I mean, there's stuff that I say to my brothers. like just but I mean you know there was a sketch of French and Saunders where Dawn French was pretending to be this US comedian and she was just utterly offensive Do you remember that?

Build this Mr. Architects! Get out of the pool! Yeah, oh get out of the pool! Get out of the pool! You got a face like a blind, cobblest thumb. Where did you go to the Freddie Kruger School of Beauty? Get out of the pool, I do you remember that. So for years.

And lucky bitches. Do you remember lucky bitches? Where they'd both be Joan Collins and Joan Collins. And they'd be like, lucky bitches. These are the things that stay with you forever and ever. And also Dawn French doing an impression of Sonia. Oh, yes. Yes. God almighty.

Every question she got asked, she said it was the Mersey. It was her on Big Brother in the Diamond Room. No, it wasn't it in that Big Brother. It was that weird show where they would get people. he would come in. Oh God, I love that show. And it was like a computer was asking the questions. Yes.

And they had Bross and we're like, we're brothers. Yes. God, what was that show called? I can't remember, but it was on Friday night. That was her answer to everything. How do you feel about, you know, geopolitics? In the Mersey. The Mersey.

So for years, my brothers and I would answer every question to what you're up to. In the Mersey. Yes. Or build this, Mr. Architect. I'm 50. If we spend enough time together, that will come out. Yeah. Oh, good. That's a good thing.

Yeah. But, you know, otherwise, I'm pretty straight down the line. I take language very serious. Fuck off. So, who are we talking to today, Jen? We are talking to Jack Skipper. Now, when Jack rocked up for this recording. This was quite something. He walked in, no jacket, no bag, no nothing.

I thought he was a bloke who just worked at the studio. It came out of the kitchen. Yeah. And I was like, oh, this guy's relaxed. And then it's like, oh, it was Jack. It was Jack. Yeah. But he just operates in a way where you're like, he was there all along.

Yeah. Which I think is just part of his charm. He's a singular man. Yeah. And he's doing everything by his own rules, as is evidence, because he started doing the online stuff. Yeah. And then was like, while he was waiting to do comedy during COVID. Yeah.

And he's managed to make a huge success of both. And I can see why. So today we're talking to the wonderful Jack Skipper. Enjoy. I like a good. regimented but like I like things my kids are like they just they just feel you like surfaces

they like yeah they like fring their clothes on the floor yeah stepping over it I'm just like that's all kids mate I'm not picking it up you you're picking that I mean I say to Frank I'm not picking that up not picking that up and then I pick it up yeah there is a lot of I'm not picking that up I'm not picking up and then picking it up but

one of my boys will immediately do it and the other one is like I reckon if I leave this for long enough you'll do it and he's right because it's after a while you're like can I It's a dozy dough. It's a dance of pick it up. You pick it up.

I'll pick it up. I'll pick it up. Yes, family life. You pick it up. I'm not going to pick it up. Fuck you. I've picked it up. You fucking prick.

That's humans. This episode is brought to you by Peloton. A new era of fitness is here. Introducing the new Peloton Cross Training Tread Plus, powered by Peloton IQ. Built for Breakthroughs. with personalized workout plans, real-time insights, and endless ways to move. Lift with confidence, while Peloton IQ counts reps,

corrects form, and tracks your progress. Let yourself run, lift, flow, and go. Explore the new Peloton Cross-training Treadplus at OnePeloton.ca. It's the matcha or the three ensemble Coddosephora of the fact that I just dennychees all time? It's the ensemble. The form of standard and mini-regrouped.

Hello, Ben. And the embellage, too beau. who is practically pre-a-donough and I know I'd I'd like the Summer Fridays

and Rare Beauty by Selena Gomez. I'm just the most best of the bestsonsonsons Catero desktos Cephora

Shephora Shepora Collection and other part of the video, procure you these formats and mini

regrouped for a better quality of online on c4 or in magazine. Paramor

Whoa. Check out the big stars, big series and blockbuster movies streaming on Paramount

Plus. Cue the music like NCIS, Tony and Ziva. We'd like to make up her own rules. Tulsa King. We want to take out the competition. The substance.

This balance is not working. And the naked gun. That was awesome. Now that's a mountain of entertainment. Let's have a look at your photos, Jack. Oh, we already do it. These are not in what appears to be a chronological order. Would you want us to do them in any particular order?

Well, should we start when you're a baby? Look at the oldest one if you want. I think it's clear what one's the oldest. Yeah, this one? Is this with your dad? Grandad. This is with your granddad having a fag? Yeah.

Well, I was using the fag, yeah. Classic granddad move. Classic, my granddad used to smoke over us. Yeah. So I think that was just, that was the times. That was all right. I remember being horrible though. Do you remember like being in the back of a car when there's fags down on in the front?

Oh, yeah, yeah. You feel sick, didn't it? That is brutal. Can I just say, so if we're going to go right into this picture, why, what's with the pair of jeans so is there a ghost next to you? Oh my God, yeah, I haven't noticed that. Obviously letting them dry out. Well, that's like that Disney film where one main character is just a pair of trousers.

What's that film where the dad is a pair of trousers? Onward. Onward? Is it his onward? Is this your dad that it's just trousers? Yeah, they're my imaginary friend. Tell us about this picture. That's my granddad.

He's not with us anymore, but he's the funniest bloke I ever knew, I think. Really? Just a funniest bloke. just always like really funny. Do you know what he was really funny about him as well? He was funny for himself. Go on. Did you mean he made himself laugh?

Made himself laugh. Just like, little comments and you think like, I love that though. No one's listening. You can just hear little comments. Make your own fun, mate. Because my nan would never laugh. My name was John.

It's just that, Join. And him just making little comment. Right up to the end, he was just a funny. I remember like, he was like, it was a couple days before he passed. And he was in his room. And we all knew he was all sort of saying, goodbye he could hardly breathe and my brother like he granddad went to say something and my

brother he went like that and my brother went what was that granddad and my granddad and my granddad went what you fucking deaf like literally just right before you still he still had it in him yeah yeah yeah and you think that he's a bit part of your your sense of humor is a lot of it from him I think so I think I think because my dad's funny as well and I think maybe I just sort of saw it as I don't have the word like currency maybe it gets you it gets you somewhere

yeah yeah it's like I think that was it and there's people always oh your dad's so funny your granddad so funny I think you just look up to them didn't you and there might be a thing

a comedian thing but when there's a tension there's the instincts oh god this needs to yeah yeah you can't hang on for it for too long yeah you know when there's too much

seriousness it's like I can't help it also it's quite a British thing because my mum not being British I think the one thing

she always struggled with us as a children was banter. Yeah. And I think that is something that's like very British where you kind of rib each other. And sometimes you go a bit far. That's families. I'm not into roasting. No, not roasting.

Bancing and roasting are not the same. No, no. It's not the same thing, is it. Not roasting. No, that's unkind. It's being horrible. Yeah. That's brilliant.

Yeah, I don't like that. But you know where you're like, someone will say something, then you top it. Then someone will say something, then they top it. And then after why you're like, okay, right, I get it. Yeah. And it's funny at the, beginning and then sometimes my mum would go he's not funny anymore you know we've just done a little bit

too far such a bum thing and she had to remind us to go now you're being mean and I'm like oh sorry mom you know but because she had four kids yeah that's where the banter used to come in and I think that's a British thing did you have a was that banter was that something you used to have with your dad and your granddad oh yeah quite a lot it was always always yeah a lot of time my dad my dad's nickname for me was um Fonzie because once we was in a he was in like a I was about I was about I was about 13. I saw like a group of girls from my school and I went and hid under a desk in Argos. So, because, I'm really, on my dad just kept going, so cool, man. What a move.

It was Fonzie from Mell. That's brilliant. Yeah, yeah. Did he enjoy comedy? Did he watch comedy and did you watch comedy? Yeah, yeah. He's like, he used to show about Tommy Cooper and all that sort of stuff. Yeah.

Yeah, he loved it. But I was, I say, we were just, it was just, it was just funny bones. Yeah. You can even see from that picture. I like it that you've used a picture where his eyes are shut. It's just that kind of, he's just in some sort of flow, isn't he? Do you always a roll-up on the go? Yeah.

Oh, my dad smoked roll-ups. Yeah, yeah. He's a real... Woodbine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was it. Golden Virginia, my dad's, I used to Nicky's Golden Virginia's.

So, my granddad used to smoke roll-ups as well in, you know, Spanish, and they used to, like, chain smoke. Yeah. And he used to have those really, like, the orange fingers. Do you know what I mean? I don't see that anymore. You get the orange moustache as well. Yes. A bit yellowy.

The sort of yellowy orange, yeah. Seasoned smoke up. Even when he, even because it was towards the end, because it was to smoke the fags that sort of did him in. Oh, is it? But he, uh, he started to move to vapes. And even the vape flavour was golden virginia flavour. No way. Was it?

It's hilarious. That's so that generation. Like young people are doing watermelon. It's like, oh, I'm doing the flavour of the old fags. I actually like how fagg-tose. Yes. It was the tobacco. And it is a distinct, when I was a kid, my dad,

Smogden Virginia and he went through a pipe phase. Pikes different smell. There's something so comforting, bizarrely, about pipe smoke kills you. That is like a woody, cozy. Yeah. Well, the smell of tobacco itself is lovely, isn't it? I love it.

But pipe, when someone's smoking a pipe, it's not the same as smoking a cigarette. I cannot be around anyone smoking a cigarette. But if someone smoking a pipe, I'm like, yeah, I'm all right with that. But cigar, even a cigar, I'm like, get away from me. Yeah. Well, there's such a status thing, aren't they, a cigar. It's a real like

Yeah You look and think Are you actually enjoying that? Yeah It's just one of It's like people that do Butterfly stroke You're like are you enjoying that

Yeah yeah No one's enjoying that No benefit No Like you're just being a dick Yeah Just someone going past faster And a pressure going

Calm down I know That's what a cigar is It's a dick move Yeah Yeah it is yeah And he never Did he try and give up smoking

Was yeah He did We went to the vapes Yeah That's not giving up smoking though Is it Did he ever try And knock it all on the head

I don't think so Because my dad gave up in the end and it was sort of like, I think genuinely it's one of the things that he's most proud of. Do you know what I mean? Because he started smoking at 13. Oh, wow. Yeah, that generation of bloke. When did he stop? He stopped, I think he was around his 40s and he read a book like a sort of self-help book.

Yeah. And he really... Alan Carr? Not Alan Carr. There was another one that was looking back, it was quite similar to 12 steps. It's like the same kind of addiction conversation around, you know, what it is and psycho-and-law. psychological addiction. But he was so proud of himself for giving up.

It's an interesting... Well, I think sometimes that generation, like, I've had uncles have done as well. You've got to give up or that's you done. And they say, well, they don't know. That's me done then, isn't it? Oh, really? Just they accept it of it. Yeah, that's the way I live my life.

That's just sort of what it is. Yes. I think, I was really something. I think it was like, Errol Flynn? Because he was a booze, wouldn't? They said, like, you've got to give it up. And he went to... That killed him in the end.

Yeah. He built a... He called a beach home, called it a cirrhosis by the sea. Oh, wow. Wow, that's bleak. It's like, that's that mentality. Yeah, no, it's interesting. Is that what your granddad died of?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And my granddad on my other side as well. And even this, like, he used to, I mean, I've, I'll tell you that. He used to do this thing. We was really young. He'd go, go put that fag out for me. You can finish it off. Just don't tell your nan.

We were like, little. Little. Yeah. This is the way they were pulled up, darling. Yeah, it's a different, it is a different attitude to it. It did start smoking as a child back then. It wasn't unusual. I mean, saying that, when I first started smoking, I was a child.

You start smoking as a teenager, like 14, 15. And my dad's dad, he smokes a pipe from when he was like seven or eight. And he smokes it up until 1990. That would look so funny. That's just so weird. It wasn't unusual to see kids with pipes then in like. But my granddad was like 57 when my dad was born. So my granddad was born in 1881.

So he was like from another time. Like a completely different time. Yeah. But even then you're like, it's just, I don't know. It was normal. And also when I try and explain smoking to the children, it's really hard. Yeah. And it's really difficult as well.

And the hip-op, because I smoked. I smoked through my like teens and 20s. So there's a lot of photographs. We're talking about photographs. There's a lot of pictures of me with a fag in my hand through that part of my life and trying to get my kids not to smoke. And yet I did smoke. And then saying to them like, you know, we could smoke on the bus.

We could smoke on the tube. We could smoke in the classroom. Smoking on the tube. Smoking everywhere. Is it the same nowadays for young people we're smoking? Or is it just vaping now? My daughter have raped. Then there was a lot of fear around the vaping.

So she thought it was healthy to go back on the fags. That's mad. Vaping's really fucked. I don't know what that is, but it's fucked. Yeah, that is. But my other granddad, he was even, he would say the one who gives us, he was even more like,

he died quite a few years ago. This one, he remember he basically, he was left at home on his own, so he had to make his own sandwich, right? You know, you get him, you used to get him things of a dog food. Yeah.

A tin? No, like a sausage. Like a... Do you know what I don't? No, I don't think I do. A dog food that comes in like a sausage, like a patte. No. No.

No. And I've got a dog and I've got a really bad feeling about this. They shoot my nan got home. Don't buy any more that patty, Rhine. It's fucking horrible. Oh, shit. Made himself a dog food sandwich. Wow.

And ate at the lot. Yeah. And just complained about it afterwards. Wow. That's... I did not. Incredible. Was that like a...

80s things. You must have been. You're the only people who've never ever said that you've not know what I'm talking about. Do you know what I mean about liver sausage though?

It's like it comes in like a sausage you can't open. You get a dog food one. I don't know about the dog food one but I do know what you're talking about but then I never had a dog so I don't know. I've had a dog and I feel like she's missed out.

Let's go to your next photo, Jack. So what kind of, here we go so what's happening in this picture here? So that's me. That's the house I sort of grew up in. I started my life in. So that's me, my mum, dad and brother. That was West Croydon.

Oh, I didn't know you were Croydon. You had that the road for me. Yeah, yeah, West Croydon, yeah. Yes. But that was like, because that's like, sort of my fondest memories of life really. My mum and dad are separated now, but that's when it was like all together. Yeah.

And do you know what it reminds me, right? This is what it reminds me is we lived in a one bedroom flat. My mom and dad used to sleep on a sofa bed in the lounge room, right? And it just reminded me like, that was my happiest time. I wasn't aware of, you know, that's not really, you know, you look back and like, if you look at, they've only got one bedroom before them.

But I was just like, you were happy. Kids are materialistic. Not at all. I was like the happy. Safety and comfort. You want your parents together. You want to be loved.

You want to feel safe. You want, you know, boundaries. That's all what you want as a kid. You know, you don't care if you haven't got a flat screen TV or a. Exactly. And it sort of reminds me because, like, you know, I'm, I co-parents. So like, and, you know, like, it's a bit about three.

years ago where like you know and I've been you know when you worry about your own kids didn't you know about like am I doing enough have they got enough constantly and then I well things like that it does just remind myself they're like oh they're just as long as they're happy they don't need they just want to be loved because you can you always strive in it to give give them more and do more and you always like checking in them but that that reminds me if I look at that I think oh it's long they're happy they're happy that that's a really good benchmark to remind yourself off isn't it it's like that you know that was when you were your happiest as a child yeah yeah it's that a christmasy time as well is that card I don't

I don't know, actually. It looks like it's got Christmas cards up on the... Yeah. How old were you in this picture, Jack? I'd say about four, so that. Yeah, so that. Yeah, so it'd be like 92, 92 era. And what sort of kid were you as a growing up?

I was a bit, I was like a... I think I could have a play out, but I was like a bit of a loner. I was a bit like a sort of... I used to like enjoy being in my own mind a little bit. Oh, classic comedian. Yeah. I used to really enjoy it. I used to like, yeah, I used to like, I used to, like, I used to, like, I used to, like, I used to, like,

I'd love films and I'd have a big pile of videos. Really? I'd always do like a thing as well where I'd like, I'd do a thing where like I'd make up like characters in my head. And I'd live like, say I was into boxing in my head is like, I'm a boxer. Right. And in my head I'm walking around going pretending that what my day is. It's like in a complete fantasy world. Yeah.

And I'd just be like off on that all day. A very vivid imagination. Yeah, yeah. And I'd really enjoy it. And knew how to access your imagination. Yeah. And I'd prefer being there. In the real world, and to be honest, I'm just getting exactly the same now.

I think that's an artist. That's a creative. You're a born creative and you knew how to access it. Yeah, I think, well, maybe, yeah, yeah. I just feel like that was like, I was happy being there. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it's like, I remember my mum said to me sometimes, why are you going to play out?

And I'm like, I'm all right, to be honest. I'm not like, I'm playing in. Yeah, yeah. I'll wheel off a wanted, but I'm not, I'm all right, to be honest. Yeah, yeah. I was quite happy just plodding along. Did you and your brother get on? Yeah, yeah, we still got up, like, he's still like my best part.

So quite a close age gap. Yeah, two years, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got on really well, yeah. Because my brother, he's like, he's, what I'm saying, he's, he's, like, wild. Okay. He was like, he was like, do you know, like, do you know, like, like, ADHD? Remember, like, the night, like, when it was like, back in the day, it was that, that kid? There wasn't a word for it. Yeah, yeah, but no, no, when there was a word for it.

Oh, I see. There was only one person in school with it, sort of thing. I see. So I mean, he was that. He was that kid. You know? Yeah. It was always like in detention, like in isolation.

Oh, okay. Taking out of class, but always like really fun. You know that kid as well? You dare him to do something. And he do it? You don't want to dare him to do it because you will do it. He will definitely do it. You know what?

He's like, yeah, he's settled down a lot now. But yeah, he's like, he's funny. He's really funny. So what does he think about you doing stand up? He's like, he loves it. He's always been there with like the most sort of like pinnacle bits. And it's like, it's weird that he's always there like, because he doesn't come a lot

but he's always there when I did I did the Apollo last week did you oh congratulations oh thank you cheers but he was there I love having him at them so because it's it's one of them because you don't

you know when you're just moving forward doing something when you're there with someone who's been there in your whole life they're the ones to remind you like yeah absolutely this is quite a big deal

you know I mean sometimes I think in life when you got like say say like there right that that was me at four years old it's like ultimate happiness yeah I mean

it's like ultimate I've got no response responsibilities like I get my, there's no, I've got no anxiety because nothing's happened to me. I don't know, nothing to draw, do I mean? And I feel like sometimes you do, like you, you try, like say that was me, that was the ideal situation. Say like life don't work out how, not that you've planned it to be like, but like in my head, I know what an ideal family looks like.

Yeah. And, you know, mine hasn't worked out because I'm separated and what I think sometimes you can be a little bit disappointed in life or without knowing, you're like, oh, it shouldn't be like this. It shouldn't be like this. Yes. And I think that's a thing you've got to learn. Instead of, you've got to work out what it is from them times that I have got.

Do you know what I mean? Instead of thinking, because it's not going to be exactly like that ever again. And I think sometimes subconsciously you're wanting life to be exactly like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, to be exactly like it was. And it never is going to be like that. Yeah. I think, sorry, that's a bit deep, right. No, no, I like that.

No, it's great. And our memories aren't, I suppose they're not always fully reliable. And we've become part of a sort of culture that is, seems sometimes to be looking for problems rather than looking. Yeah, yeah. Do I mean, like, we kind of, as individualism, and we're always like, we've got these therapy brains where we're like, right, well, we've got neural diversity

and we've got lack and we've got, I don't know, and we're not encouraged to go, look at all what we have got and what we do have. And any moment you can get to where that happen when they're moments, just go for it. Yeah, when someone pops in. How good does it feel? You walk past over, morning, morning, you go, oh, that felt lovely that,

didn't it? It's like, nice little moments. I was at the Joel, this morning, like, Sometimes I like to, if I do the school run in the morning, I like when I've dropped my son off, then I drop my daughter off. And there's a little moment where everyone's sort of running around going mad. I might just take a slow walk home.

See, this is the you that walked in here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, I'm not in a rush to leave or arrive. I'm here. I like being disconnected from the mad. I actually like seeing a bit of madness. I'm getting angry. Yeah, yeah.

I'm not a part of that. No. I think that's a really good thing to be conscious of. Yeah. To have people go on and on about microaggressions. And you're like, what about micro-compassions or micro-comessions or micro- warmth or might go smile hello

right mate we're in this moment right now exactly connection let's bring it back let's do it yeah let's bring it back Jack

right let's go to your next picture which I think is is it this one with you with a bunch of lads on the beach chronologically I think that'll be the next one maybe yeah

look at you look at you look so tanned and young I did notice in it I've only just noticed it though what ankle bracelet I'm all for

I love an ankle bracelet I love an ankle bracelet that's a man travelling that is oh where are you Australia there oh are you in Fraser Island I think so yeah

that's it yeah you're in Fraser Island where's that Queensland or somewhere like what you just drive about on the beach yeah you just yeah

you're on well it's just an it's an island full of sand isn't it yeah yeah yeah you just get to camp out

and you just get to drive these like four by fours this looks very like a bloke's this is an alpha situation yeah well there was that was just the group I was with

they're all like my mates from back home I went to school with them and you all went travelling together yeah yeah yeah so we did so that's the reason for that photo because I spent like I mean I asked him in about 23 yeah you went you went travelling with four other bloke see this is well no I went

no this thing I went with a mate and then everyone saw me do it and everyone just started going to do that yeah I'm coming out I'm coming out so everybody just sort of followed yeah because I was going to say that's a level of organisation that no disrespect but I I can't see these bloats getting on it.

Like, who's in charge? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they're proper, I'm always jealous of people that have groups that get shit together. Yeah, who's in charge? Yeah, that was pre- WhatsApp group as well. So that would have been. Yeah, that's logistically a nightmare. Yeah, yeah.

So you went and they were like, that looks tasty and they came out. Because I always sort of did things like that. I did like, so I left school and I started working my dad. Doing what? Carpet fitting. Right. And then when I was about 18, 19, I went to Tenerife. Working?

Yeah, for a few minutes. one then you know folks who stands outside clubs get a free shot oh really i can totally imagine it and then pulling at the same time yeah yeah come on girls you call this work so i did that and then i went i got i come back and i thought uh right i better get like a i got like an office job for a little bit i didn't know what it was doing just oh i hate office work yeah yeah just like clerical yeah just like clerical work was always always like data entry Entry. Or they'd give you like a load of, there'd be a filing cabinet and they'd go, yeah, sort out of that filing cabinet.

Although he has to recycle one day, just get the envelopes and take the plastic, separate the plastic window from the paper. Oh, my gosh. Those sort of jobs. So many of those jobs. I couldn't, when the office first came out as a teleprogram, I literally couldn't watch it. PTSD. I was like, that isn't, I can't do that. I thought the opposite because I thought, that was before I worked in office.

I was going to get an office job. That looks like a right laugh. Oh, my God. It's not like that at all. It captured the pettiness and the boredom and all that shit. And the boredom where you just go, like, how many times can I go to the toilet? Yeah, you just go to the toilet. Yeah, you just sit in the toilet.

You didn't have a phone or anything. You just literally sit in the toilet and go, yeah. Or have you had a phone, you just look through old texts. Yeah. Or play snake. Play snake. Yeah. Like, I can't have a piss yet because I just had one three minutes ago.

Yeah. I'll give it 10 minutes for I have another piss. I gave myself caffeine poisoning when I was doing, when I was doing a day to entry job. I didn't even know that was a thing. Well, I made so many cups of coffee in a day, I made eight that I got really sick. And then I went to the doctors and they went, oh, I don't really understand what your symptoms are. And I said nausea and a headaches and da-da-da-da. And they went, have you been drinking coffee?

I went, yeah, I had eight cups. So, well, you've given yourself caffeine poison. Wow. That's how shit your job was. My job was so shit. I had eight cups of coffee. You need the excuse to go to the toilet, didn't you? And also, I was either on the toilet or making coffee.

Instant, Maxwell House. Yeah, yeah. Anything where it's like you've got a boss. Oh yeah, boss is. You have to ask when I can go on holiday. I feel like it's like... That's why we do this show. It's like a feeling.

I mean, I hate it. It's a horrible feeling. I don't like it. Yeah, yeah. You feel like traps in prison. I don't like it. Oh, me too. I used to hate that feeling.

I remember bosses saying to me, look, you could do well here if you took it seriously. Oh, right. I remember bosses saying to me occasionally, you remind me a bit of me when I was... When I had dreams? Yeah, when I was young and didn't give a fuck. But I'm crushed now. And now I want you to be. And I can see that if you allow yourself to be crushed,

you could really move forward in this company. And I was like, right, I'm handing in my notice. I'm leaving today. Yeah. Because I don't want to be crushed. Well, hence Australia. You went for it. So I just went.

I said, I can't. And did you work out there? Yeah, so I got a one-way ticket to Sydney. What work did you do out there? So I did, well, I tried to do it. I couldn't get any work. So I went back to carpet fitting in Sydney. Everyone needs carpets for it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was doing like office blocks and stuff. And it'd be decent money. Yeah, it was really good actually. And then I went, I went to a farm. Oh, you didn't fruit pick? What did you pick? Well, I wasn't picking.

I got quite lucky. I got, I was doing, I think there was tomato picking, but then I got lucky. There was a guy used to work at him. One of them broke his arm. And I took over, there's a called a Carter where you pick up the buckets and you throw the buckets of tomatoes into the truck. That doesn't sound fun. But I was getting like good money. And then no tax?

Yeah, like really good money. You don't get taxed on fruit picking. Why? because they're I don't know Oh right Oh yeah But they're really all over tax laws

I'm all over the Australian tax laws Because I used to do Banana I did bananas How did you I did bananas in Queensland And I know Because I got paid a lot of money

You get a rash in bananas Rash tax Yeah from the banana sap I know my I know my fruit picking This is a niche This podcast can end up in

Some niche pockets Man A fruit picking It's dangerous No I'm sure If you get a rash Teen toads, there were poisonous spiders and there were poisonous snakes. Brown snakes, yeah.

But do you know what? But, do you know what? I was, that reflection, that was a really happy moment because that was a place called Bowen in Queensland. It was like one of them, it's where they filmed the film Australia. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was like one in places, like one pub, one post office. Really? And again, Crocodile Dundit.

There's a theme to this, I've realised. It felt old school. It felt like. Off grid. Off grid, you'd just walk into a pub. Oh, well, like, you just walk into a pub. Oh, well. mate.

Yes. It was all that sort of thing. So I was at home there. I enjoyed that type of living. That appeals to you. You want to live in another age, Jack? I do. I really do.

Hit pause on whatever you're listening to and hit play on your next adventure. This fall get double points on every qualified stay. Life's the trip. Make the most of it at Best Western. Visit bestwestern.com for complete terms and conditions. We know you love the thought of a vacation to Europe. But this time, why not look a little further? to Dubai, a city that everyone talks about and has absolutely everything you could want from a vacation

destination. From world-class hotels, record-breaking skyscrapers, and epic desert adventures, to museums that showcase the future, not just the past. Choose from 14 flights per week between Canada and Dubai. Book on emirates.ca. today. It's hockey season, and you can get anything you need delivered with Uber Eats. Well, almost, almost anything. No, you can't get a nice rank on Uber Eats. But iced tea, ice cream, or just plain old ice? Yes, we deliver those. Goaltenders, no.

But chicken tenders, yes. Because those are groceries, and we deliver those too. Along with your favorite restaurant food, alcohol and other everyday essentials. Order Uber Eats now. For alcohol, you must be legal drinking age. Please enjoy responsibly. Product availability varies by region. See app for details.

So let's go to this last photo. This is a lovely photo, which I'm assuming are your children. Yeah. Thankfully, yeah. They're not someone else's kids, some random kids. So where is this? That is, that's West Whittering. My mum lives down in West Whittering.

Oh, it's lovely down there. Oh, does your mum live in West Wittering? Oh my God, that's beautiful down there. What a lovely place to live. Yeah, yeah. Do you go down there a lot? Quite a bit, yeah, yeah, when I can, yeah. That's a lovely beach, that is a lovely, that's the Westbury Beach.

The sandy beach, yeah. We can park my mum's and just walk down there. And this is you and your two kids? And it's just a happy moment. Another happy moment, Jack. They're just, yeah, everything, really, my kids. Parenting is a massive game changer, isn't it? About who you are and what we are.

I think that's, I think, though, like, that, that, that, uh, happiness when I was a kid. That's like a memory. And then we were like sort of like early, I don't know if anyone I was, I didn't, you know, that's, you know, I didn't really, I don't think it was that good. It was overrated. Yeah. No, I don't. I mean, I've talked about it's plenty times.

I don't remember my 20s being. No. But I think my son was relatively young. I think I was about 26 my son was born. But that was when everything changed, I mean. Because I was, I was, I used to just float about, fucking about, going, I'm going to go Australia. I'm going to take a reef. I'm going to get an office job.

You didn't feel rooted. Yeah, yeah. But as soon as I found out I was going to be a dad, that's when I was like, I started like, I bought myself a van. I started my own carpet business. I was like, right. Yeah. There's that sort of thing where it gives it a bit of, yeah, a bit of structure. And then I spread us like

And that sort of weren't enough for me And love I always wanted more Something, you mean That's when I sort of started doing the comedy

Yes That's great for your kids Like what do you Do your children know Are they like Oh my dad's a comedian Yeah I don't

They don't really How old are your children 10 and 11 Oh yeah So like the same as mine Yeah Yeah Yeah

I've got twins But they're I want them To give a shit More than they do But that's I think it's right That they don't

Give a shit Yeah Yeah I mean I actually don't want them to give a shit. I don't want them to be, I don't want them to look at the internet to find out what I've done.

I don't want them to know anything. I don't want them to come to a gig. I would, I'd love it. I'd love it if they thought I worked in marketing. Yeah. It's more, it's more the,

the opportunities they get because the industry were in, that sort of thing. Like, you know, you get invited to call things. Yes. Yeah. And I just, I want them to really like,

this is pretty special. Yeah, not taking for granted. Yeah, yeah. But they are good. They're not spoiled at all. Yeah, yeah. They're good kids.

But I think it's just the... We always, I think, like, sometimes when we say we spoil our kids, we... What does that mean? We're not spoiling them. They're not, we're not ruining them. Yeah, yeah. We're just trying to... Love bomb them.

Yeah. Because we want them to have, we want them to have all the things. Yeah, but I think they're happy. I don't, I don't check in. You're definitely happy, aren't you? Tell me I'm a good dad. Yeah. Oh, they'll let you know as soon as they're teenagers.

Yeah, yeah. I'm expecting to get all the feedback. Do they know what you, like do they, do their friend, I tell you what makes me anxious about being public on the doodars. That's how I'm phrasing it today is that they get shit for it. That's what would make me anxious that they get shit for it. That your mum, oh, you know, just because kids can be assholes. Yeah. So that there'd be any context whereupon, like that they'd get any beef from their mates.

I'd like to think it'd be more positive though than that. Well, it can be positive, but it can also, like, I remember Frank having a phase where apparently all this, people at school decided that he was a millionaire because his mom was in that thing on Netflix so they're like well you must be a millionaire in a kid's head that's how they equated because Frank doesn't go to a kind of particularly fancy school

he just goes to the local comp so in his world your mom's on Netflix you're a fucking millionaire so you know what Netflix yeah I was like I don't want to have to go through all of that with you but there's the interesting thing like kids will find

do I mean they will grip up of a thing and if there's any public if one of the kids' parents has a public profile, they will clock onto it and do you know what I mean? I think of my own experience, I just remember being quite exciting. I went to my junior school, a few years above me, was Bradley from S Club 7.

Oh, that was pretty exciting. That is exciting. That is really exciting. I told you about my bloke from Bluefo, par. What? Right, so I went to see Mama Mia the party a couple weeks ago. I thought you weren't going to talk about this again. Okay, well, I appear to be, but you will find out

why when I finish the anecdote. So the main bloke, have I told this story? No, no, no, no, no. So the main bloke, I don't know how much of this you're going to be able to use, but the main bloke in it played the lead. Very questionable Greek accent. Very, not a great Greek accent. So I went with Frank and his main.

I said to Frank's mate, when we had the bit in the middle of the show where you're allowed to go up and meet the cast, I said, I dare you to ask him what part of Greece is from. So he went over to the boat and he was like, are you, from Greece. Anyway, we ended up having a bit of a chit-chat and he dropped the accent when him and I was stood next to each other. He went, of course I'm not from Greece. I was like, no shit. And then he said, I'm in a band actually. And I went, oh, right. Well, this is a nice money gig then. And then you do the band, one for the bank, one for the heart, yeah, and whatever. And we're having that kind of chat. Turns out he's in blue. Oh, that's brilliant. So embarrassed. Oh, babe. I love that you went, yeah, you do this for the money.

And you do that for a hobby. And your little band. You got your little boy band. As soon as you said it, I know what one from blue it is as well. Really? He's in. It's got to be. He's always, I don't, could be. Oh, so he is Greek.

His name's Costa. I don't know. Well, he said, I'm not Greek. And I was like, yeah, your accent. It's not Duncan, is it? I don't know. I don't know Blue. You know, if you saw Duncan, you'd know Duncan.

I only know Duncan because of that Boy Band's Forever documentary. I was in Boy Band. Who's in Blue? Duncan. Simon Webb. You started that so confidently. Duncan. And then it fell apart.

Lee Ryan and Nick Costa. Right, there you go. Oh, Lee, Matt. So that guy's in, Mama, me. So he does West End. I don't know, I'm just guessing. Well, I felt like a right old turn it. It's like, oh, you got your band.

Got a little band, have you? Good for you. Good for you with your band. Don't give up the day job, though. Kid you like that. Blue, he's in blue. He's probably permanently on tour. Yeah.

He was doing that to me. He didn't. He was... It's his fault. Kerry, it's all right. He should have said, I'm in blue. You're an anecdote for him now. You know that bird off that Netflix show?

He didn't even know who I was! Jack, what are you up to? So your tour? Tell us about your tour. My tour at the moment. So you're on tour right now? Yeah. And when do you finish?

When does it go through to? November. I think if I'll keep selling out, I'll keep adding more dates, I think. Yeah, of course. Bloody well should. You're doing it very, very well. doing it for real, ma'amishing it all over the country. Thanks.

Rubbish of compliments. Thanks. Thank you so much for coming. Oh, no, thanks so much. It's been lovely. It's been lovely. Trip down memory lane, isn't it? Trip down memory lane. It's been lovely.

I'm Max Rushden. I'm David O'Dardy. And we'd like to invite you to listen to our new podcast. What Did You Do Yesterday? It's a show that asks guests the big question. Quite literally, what did you do yesterday? That's it. That is it.

Max, I'm saying. still not sure. Where do we put the stress? Is it what did you do yesterday? What did you do yesterday? You know what I mean? What did you do yesterday? I'm really down playing it. Like, what did you do yesterday? Like, I'm just, I'm just a guy just asking a question. But do you go bigger? What did you do yesterday? Every single word this time, I'm going to try and make it like it is the killer word. What did you do yesterday? Like, that's too. That's too. much, isn't it? That is, that's over the top.

What did you do yesterday? Available wherever you get your podcasts every Sunday.