S04 E33: Kerry Godliman
00:00Hello and welcome to Memory Lane. I'm Jen Bristair. And I'm Kerry Godleman. Each week we'll be taking a trip down Memory Lane with our very special guest as they bring in four photos from their lives to talk about.To check out the photos we'd be having a natter with them about, they're on the episode image and you can also see them a little bit more clearly on our Instagram page. So have a little look at Memory Lane podcast. Come on, we can all be nosy together.Look, I'm having a cup of teaAnd you know what would be quite nice with itYou're not having a biscuit?I really want a biscuitIt's shortbread, it's shortbreadWhat?
00:39After the last time where you said,I don't like biscuitsSo you know what I hate is people offering me biscuitsThe last thing I ever want with the biscuitAnd I said to you what, even with a cup of teaYou don't want a biscuitNo, I don't want a biscuitI don't want a bit of cake
00:50So now I've got biscuitsAnd you've got your fucking picklesAnd I've got my biscuitsAnd do you know what, KerryI'm all right for pickles.Can I just say, sometimes when you're in a comedy flow, and it might not all be accurate truth.Oh, is that right, Kerry?Like you do whole routines about your children.
01:12It doesn't mean you don't like them.Of course I like them.Well, I quite like biscuits.Sometimes you go into a comedy slipstream and you get excited.You were opened with that.It wasn't even a slip stream.It was, you were right out of the gate.I tell you what I hate about biscuits.
01:28I wasn't even ready for it.I was like, can we warm up a bit first?Hello, Jen.How are you?It was my warm up.It was a biscuit warm up.All right, I'm really, this, the ASMR of me opening these biscuits is afterscale awful.What does ASMR stand for again?
01:42It starts for auto-exphyxiation sounding motor robots.Motor neurons.It's something to do with, I knew what it is, but I didn't know what the actual words were.Oh, someone will tell us.Okay.This will go in the comments.Here you go.Well, this is my total U-turn on biscuits.
02:00I can't believe this.I've gone in hard.Not only are you eating a biscuit, you're eating on a podcast.That is rule number one, no eating on a podcast.Maybe people will all like it.Like, they're kind of, it'll be someone's kink.Everyone wants a biscuit now.It'll be someone's kink, and then I'll make a real load of money on a side hustle eating biscuits on Mike.
02:21Can I just say that that is actually a pet hate of mine is sticky mouths on radio.sticky mouthed people on radio is one of the most disgusting things known to humankind you know when you hear people and they go and then yes and that's when and that you can hear that their mouth is sticking together honestlyChloe and I were listening to a podcast we were driving probably to the to the ghost house hotel and and we're listening to a podcast together and at one point a sticky man came on and Chloe went I can't have this sticky manI went, it's too much, isn't it?She went, we'll have to fast forward, sticky guy.He might have had a condition.I don't care what its condition is.Have a glass of water.
03:04Do something with the sticking is.What it suggests to me is somebody's very dehydrated.Yeah.And they need to gargle.They need to lubricate.And often with a biscuit, because it absorbs all the moisture in your mouth,you may, I'm not saying that you will, but you may well be left a sticky mouth.And if you are, Kerry.
03:21Well, I'll lubricate with my tea.Get out.Get out.Shall I finish my biscuit and then open my tin of pictures?Yeah, so you've come.Actually, when that tin came out, I thought, and you said, oh, Jan, I've got a gift for you.I thought, is it a biscuit?Oh, no, no.
03:50It was a scarf.And it was a scarf, which I can't eat.I like this.It's a lovely scarf, though.It's not from me.It's not from me.at Bronwyn at Lowey.We'll put a link in the show notes.
04:03I'll put the scarf on later.Okay, so tell me it's not edible what's in here.Not edible.So we were meant to have a guest.This has happened before on our show.This often happens with us.We are the kind of podcasters that people feel like it's kind of not set in stone.I think that's all pods.
04:21I wouldn't take that personally.I am taking it personally.We're pod fluid.I've always wanted to be fluid about it.with something because I'm very fixedas a human beingand I haven't done fluidityand now I'm pod fluid
04:34and now I'm pod fluid okay greatI want to be like the young peopleI want to be more fluidI think you're fluidno noyou are quite locked inI'm locked in there's no fluiditywith my sexuality
04:44well in the pod land we're fluidbecause you knowwe talk to a lot of very busy peopleand shit changes in the world of busy peopleand also we're very busy peopleexactly so I guess todaywho maymay not come back
04:59He couldn't make it todayNoSo we're going to do our own episodeAnd I saidI've got a tinOf tiny photosA tin of tiny photosYou know like passport size photos
05:10Tens of tiny photosAnd there's hundredsAnd obviously we won't be able to go throughall of themOkayYou could do a lucky dip of photosCan I?Can I do a lucky dip?
05:18Maybe this one particularlyappealed to meBecause there were some on my fridge as wellSo they go all through timeSo this is Elsie is a babyIn a passport photoMy God, that is so crazy.Let me see that picture of Elsie.
05:29I haven't said.Yeah.So, you know, you must have this with your kids.Is that Elsie?Yes.Isn't there anything more silly than having to have a baby in a passport photo?You've literally got to hold up their neck.Well, you can see Ben, it's Ben, is Ben, isn't it?
05:45Ben's holding Elsie up, like a puppet.Ben is holding Elsie up like a ventriloquist puppet.And you could just see his hand.And there were like rules.You know the rules of passport photos.Oh, my God, Elsie looks like Ben.Elsie looks like a little Ben.She is a tiny Ben.
06:01When she was a baby, she was tiny Ben.She's tiny Ben.Yeah.Oh my gosh, with really big, big cheeks.Yeah.It's so silly having to make a baby have a passport.Especially when you're holding a back.And you're not like a muppet.
06:22This is Hounslow Borough College.Where I did my A levels.92, 93.I was in, I was in Twickenham.Down the road, mate.We went to college.Did you have go to a cabbage patch?No.
06:39Okay, carry on.London Transport, child rate photo card, 1989.Oh, that's cute.So I can't all these cards.I don't really know because I'm an archivist.You're an archivist.Chloe keeps all this crap, but I chuck everything away.Well, you could have bought yours in and we couldn't check them.
06:56What are you laughing at me now for?Hair, hair, face, complexion.I'm laughing because there's all stages of Kerry.Perms.But this one's great.This is every girl I went to school with in the 90s.100%.You could have been any girl that I went to school with.
07:14Perm.Yeah, hair up.Hair up.A big gold hoop earrings.100.And probably lots of hairspers.Did you lose lots of, did you lack of your hair?Super soft.
07:23Yeah.Yeah.Yeah, well, there we go.Wow.That's incredible.You literally, that, looking at this particular photograph, I'm joking aside, I've just been transported back to getting the 131 bus.There you go.Like all these things, because I suppose now we have all that, like, we have a lot of stuff in our phone, don't we?
07:44Like all this.And now we used to have to carry all these cards around.Oh my God.ID cards and photos.And there was so much fun to be had from getting like, the same.I mean, this is me and Elsie as it happens,but actually there's a few in herethat are just me and my mates
08:01when we're in our teens or old boyfriendsbecause they had a photo booth at Greenford Tube Station.That's me and Despinner,my childhood sort of like best mate through school.Well, I say childhood.I still see Despinner, but...I mean, look at this.This is great lipstick.
08:18Yeah, we really...Like, you basically glam up, go down the photo booth.You look like Michelle Tully in that picture.It was said before.More often than not, Sharon, not Michelle.Not more often Letitia Dean.I told you that story about me working at the hair dressers.Shell fowler's happening, very strong vibes there.
08:34There's all these people I went to school with.Katie Hillier.Like these are all photo.Just random people.This was my boyfriend when I was 16.Oh, let me see your boyfriend.Let me see your boyfriend.Come on.
08:48Right, which one?I think there's a spliff in the picture as well.Yeah, that was a boyfriend.Oh, which one's your boyfriend?I don't want to say.Left or right?Left, I'm going to say.These are just people's faces
08:58Of the two young men in this particular photographI'm going to say that you're the guyLeft, this guyYeah, yeah, yeahAnd I went out with him for aboutThere's Desperin and now with blonde hairOhShe bleached her and a perm
09:10And crimps?No, her hair's curlyThis is me with a bobOh my God, KerryWhat is going on?There's so many choices that you'reI know, it's justThis is what I mean, it's a tin
09:19It's just a tinYeahYou look likeYou, you, this is Star Trek, that you, were you?I'm posing, aren't I?I'm doing the eyes off, which is an early version of what we later got to do.It looks a bit like you're one of your early Edinburgh posters.Star Trek Voyager.
09:38I've had this theory, I have this theory that women in comedians in Edinburgh posters for the best part of a decade.We couldn't look at the camera.Didn't look at the camera.And I got early practice in with my looking off, looking off camera.They would tell you to do that.The photographer would go, now look left, now look right, now look up, now look down, now look as if you're looking to the corner of your arm.of your eye, and you're like, by the end of it, you're like, can I look at the camera?No.
10:00No, they don't want, they don't, because women can't look directly at cameras, Kerry,because it's something to do with being a witch.No, exactly.We're witches.It's a good one of my mum and my brother and me in a photo booth in Greenford.Oh, I love the way, who, who picked the blue?Because there's two curtains.Curtains.
10:24So you do your seat.Get your seat at the right height.Get your seat. And then you do orange or blue.Orange or blue curtains.I noticed very few people went blue.Lots of more people went orange.I always went orange.Yeah, it pops.
10:35Yeah.I mean, you've got my skin tone.You can't do blue because you look grey.Right.You've got to do orange.You've got to do strong and bold colours.It works.It works.
10:45Loads of my mum and her perms.Oh my God.But I can totally, Jess in this picture is hilarious because he hasn't.He looks kind of like that now.There's a really good one of Jess here, actually.That is actually weird.Do you think?You can see him there.
11:02Yeah.Oh, you've got it.Oh, no, here.Look at Jess.Okay.It's got some...It's got...It's a bit like Frank.
11:12He does look a bit like Frank.He's got some strong eyebrows there.Yeah.It's a funny time, isn't it, that age?I see it now with Frank.That kind of between a man and a boy.It's a terrible age for them.When their necks get long and their eyebrows bush up.
11:25It's when they're,their shoulders start to get wide but their chests haven't expanded yet so they've got likealmost like a pigeon chest like some wide shoulders and then weird sort of downy whiskery stufflong necks why do they have long necks yeah because they haven't they're not they're justnot grown into anything and then they get that weird lumpy thing that adam's appley thing yeah theylook like yeah they look a bit like pigeons it's a funny age it is a funny age it's unbelievable to methat adolescent boys now offense to all adolescentboys out there that exists.
11:57That doesn't think they're listening, mate.I just reminds methose two adolescent boys left your gig at latitudeand you went, yeah, go, there's nothing for you here.I could see they were like, oh my God, we've got to get out of there.She said the menopause four times.How do we get out?Where's the door?
12:15Go on, run free!Adolescent boys that you thought were listening,but I pointed out on.Absolutely not listening.How do adolescent girls find them attractive?Absolutely.They don't. They go for older boys.No, they do. Adolescent boys. I was an adolescent girl and adolescent girls liked adolescent boys.
12:33They did.But then adolescent girls are complicated. There's a lot going on.I know, there's a lot going on.But often girls go for older boys, don't they?They do. They do. But even then, they're still adolescent, aren't they?But they're not adolescent, adolescent. I see what you mean. Okay, fine. Moving on.has been kept and why it pleases me because a lot of them are likelike these like really tiny I think in the olden in the 70s in the olden days
13:04in the olden days you would get your photographs your normal size wise and then you gota strip oh yeah of miniatures I've got loads of those so after my mom died we have gotoh my god you're absolutely right yes get a normal size photo and then you get yeah you're rightyou get a strip of these tiny I've got hundreds of hundreds of these right you have gotYes, I have.I've got loads and loads of things.I'm not going to bring my news.Please do.
13:30They're just out-focused pictures of my mumpushing a pram through Hyde Park or something.But then you get this.You get these.That's very cute.You get these 70s.Delights.You don't do, yeah, because now you don't get.
13:43I don't know where the originals are.What the fuck were these four?I don't know.What were they for?Key rings?I mean, I'm wearing my varies and I can't make out this bloody picture.No, they're tiny.Tiny, tiny pictures.
13:55But it was a thing.It was a thing that you just got your pictures printed up.Maybe they can make them into magnets.For crafting.You were saying they're for crafting project.Mosaics.Do you remember that was a time where people made mosaics, but we're not doing it anymore.My mum does.
14:14Mom likes making a mosaic.What did she make it out of?I think you get kits.No.Yes.Don't you just get a part?Have you been to Rhabi craft?Have you been to Rovemikov.
14:23Have you met Chloe?Have you met Chloe?Right.She loves a hobby.Well, let's call Chloe up and check about Mosaic kits.Because Mosaics when I was a kid is that you would go and you would get a tile and you would smash it up.Oh yeah, that is proper.And then you get another tile you smash it up.
14:37Yeah.And then you'd mosaic.Well, now you can buy a kit.You can buy a bloody kit.Yeah.So you don't have to be smashing anything up.You have to smash anything else.Someone's done the smashing for you.
14:47I remember the first flat that Chloe bought in North London when we moved in.Yes.The woman had been a very.heavy mosaica.Oh really?On the walls?Everywhere.She'd really got into it.
14:58That's a shame because that probably meant a lot to her but nothing to you and it had to go.I can't imagine it meant anything to anyone.It was really bad.And you had to, what, take a hammer to it?I mean, gladly.Yeah, with joy.I brought a lot of purpose with that hammer.At some points I was smashing bits.
15:16It didn't have any mosaic and I was like angry that she'd done it.Wow.It was terrible.And it was properly in the walls.Oh, in the walls, in the garden.She's done it everywhere.She'd spent hours on that.I know.
15:26And that says a lot about her.But that is a thing.You are, I mean, we mustn't judge.Like, that's a mantra you live by.I mean, fucking hell.We mustn't judge.Actually, Kerry, I go with an open heart and I'm full of empathy and compassion.Yeah.
15:42Look at my grandparents and then let's see how this pans out.Okay.Let me have a look.This is.Oh, that is so cute.Who is that in the background with the hair?What a hairdo.Yeah, he's a 70s man.
16:05He looks like a kind of drawing from Raymond Briggs.How, all right, okay, I'm going to ask you a question now.Your parents, your grandparents in this picture, how old were they?I don't.Forty-two.Have you noticed that people in the 70s?Yeah, we thought they were oldand we were old and you found out they're like 36
16:27You're like, what the hell happened to you?Yeah, it's interestingYou got old, people were old earlyThey wentThe fashion was so, like they were that generationThey wore, they would like live through the warAnd all the rest of itAnd then you can see from my dad
16:42That he is a boomer and he is a youngYeahAnd it's like you couldThey're only probably about 20 years apartThose peopleExactly I knowAnd they're from different planetsCompletely different planets
16:52YeahAnd even now, you knowwhen you look at that generation and like our generation,like we are trapped in amber.Do you think?Oh my God, yeah.Look at me.What am I wearing?
17:04Yeah, you dressed like you did when you were 20.When I was 15.Right.I mean, there's questions to be asked.There's frozen cons to that.I think that's okay.What are you suggesting that you should wear a two piece?I am saying.
17:17Because you're not going to suddenly rock an aesthetic that isn't your vibe, are you?No, of course not.And I'm as much so like a cardigan.It's probably not.for me. Although I was saying that, I think I've got one.I was wearing one earlier. But it'sjust a different thing, isn't it?But that, yeah, you're right. I wonder how old
17:32they were. You're right. They probably werein their 40s. Yeah. And I just would have thoughtthat they were old. Old. Like nearlydead. Yeah. Looking at themgoing, how can you still enjoy yourlife? They're grandparents. I just look at old peoplegoing, I bet you kind of wish you were dead.You know, you look at people going,
17:50what's the point of been alive. And you've gotno idea what their interior quality of life.In my head, I'm like, you like soup. What else? What else going on?I mean, that does sound like a young person.I think the young people are looking at us like that now going. What do you like soup?What's going on?Yeah. Like, what do you mean? You like gardening and crafting.And mosaicing. Shoot yourself in the face. It's over.
18:11Well, I have a lovely time with my embroidering.You do. You do. And you're very good at it.Thanks, babe. You're welcome.My granddad was a photographer and these were me as a baby with a Christmas hat on and I think cards were made out of them.Oh, we're entering another.Holy fucking shit.Do you know when Rob Rouse came on and he brought that photograph and we went, wow Rob, that is quite the photo of you looking a little bit like Bernard Manning.Yeah, chubby baby.
18:50And Kerry.Chubby baby competition.Gary, Kerry. This photograph of you is literally...Rotund. A series of spheres?Yes. I was chunky as well actually. Maybe it was 70s babies.It's all babies, mate. Is it? Were yours not chunky?Well, no, because they were twins. So they weren't really chunky.Oh, okay. Chunky baby is a thing.
19:13Tunky baby. I don't get me wrong. If I see a fat baby, I've got to chew it.Yes. I love a chunky baby.Well, I was a fat baby.I mean, there's a lot to get your teeth around.here. Do you like my Christmas hat though?Yes. And also, because I'm, you know, the colour isn't there. You do look a little bit like youcould rock that hat at any time. You know? Or like just a general, Willy Willy WillyWinky. Wee Willie Winky. What was that? What was that about? Wee Willie Winky, something
19:39through the house. Putting out windows. Putting out the something. I think I won't be makingshit out. No, no. But what was he doing? And why was he called Wee Willie Winky? Well, there's a lotto unpack from all old poems. That was the bit in, um, Celebrity.Chaiters when Celia Rimmory said about putting pussy in the well.And everybody was like, what?It was like, yeah.Yeah, that was a...We were all put pussy in the well.
20:00Yeah, yeah.Same with Wee Willie Winky.The best bit of celebrity trait is just a sidetrack.Oh no, let's talk about that.Was Celia Remy farting?It was the best thing ever.I don't think I've ever seen any television highlight.One of my favorite things that got skimmed over was when Claudia, like, basically
20:18aligned with her and went, because she said, I always own up to them.And then Claudia went, yes, so do I.In its sort of solidarity.I love that Claudia, at all points, was in solidarity with almost everyone at all times.It was just the gift that kept giving, wasn't it?I was hoping immediately to be flooded with memes of Celia,and I only got one.Oh, I haven't had any.
20:43Oh, my God.No, that's a fair point.Someone did a whole cartoon of the whole thing and of Celia inry farting.Oh, brilliant.And I've watched it about 78 times.Oh, will you send it to me?Yeah, I said it to you, of course.Oh, that sounds wonderful.
20:56I was really glad that there was a kind of public fart.I don't.And done by like a really, because have you ever farted?What's the worst?Have you ever farted on stage?Yes.Right.And it was heard.
21:09I don't know if it was heard, but I definitely moved in a direction that forced something out.Right.And got away with it?I don't, I think the front row heard, but I don't think the whole audience.And you can't do your attention to it.I couldn't.It's a real dilemma.But if you are on celebrity traitors and you're in a cabin, there's nowhere to hide.
21:32I almost feel like she's squeaked.It sounded like something squeezed out.No, no one's pushing them out.I mean, sometimes Ben accuses me of that.And I'm like, I'm not pushing it, babe.It's just life.He's like, you did that one on purpose.You pushed it.
21:46I didn't push it.I just didn't hold it.Yeah.That's kind of the same thing, isn't it?No, I don't agree.So what, if you're not holding it, you are...There's another setting.It just plops out.
21:58There's another setting.No, no, no, no, no.If you're not holding it, then you've allowed it to come out and you've given it a little tickle on its way out.You've given it a certain momentum, haven't you?I know, but you have to...You're like anticipating it being quiet.You've said, okay, I'm going to do it.Oh, they're the worst.
22:14They're the worst when you think it's going to be quiet and it's not.Well, let me tell you, I had quite the experience you the day.tell me. Oh my God. So I'm walkingback. I've just done a giga preview for my showand it's in aprivate school in a theatreokay. Is it in Dulwich?
22:32No, it's in Sussex.And I don't know where the car is.I'm like a bit lost. I can't figure out how toget out and thedrama teacher actually, the head of drama of thisschool who has been organising this whole thing.She was like, oh I'll walk you to your car. It can bea bit confusing.
22:48So we're walking to the carAnd I'm, we're just having a normal chatYou know, we're in deep into ball talkDeep in small talkAnd a fart comes outOf her ass or yours?Mine! OkayAnd I'm not ready for it
23:03Yeah, full volume, I'm not ready for itIt came out of nowhereAnd that was, that is the thingI'm like, that's never happened to me beforeWhere I had not known a fartWas about to come out and it came outOh, that is fucking shockingThat's a development that I'm not ready for
23:15Well, that developmentSo what did you do?I went oh god oh and then she just I could tell she was like I don't we're not going to acknowledge thatI think it's best to go in I was trying to I went oh god sorry about that and she wentoh anyway so have you been and I thought I can't I can't go back and go no no let's just acknowledge that farno I think you have to you have to do a theatre piece around it and go I did a fart I did a fart I did a fart what do you thinkof my fart what do you think of my fart you've got to go all the wayYeah, okay.
23:48I could have done some sort of like, I don't know,German expressionist, mime dance.I will not have the British propriety.Oh, we don't speak of such.Speak of it.Speak of the far.But they have to, you, when you begin as if you're like,oh, I'm going to introduce the fart conversation,
24:05the other person has to embrace the fart conversation.If they resist it.Which is why I loved what Claudia did.Yeah.I just thought I really love you for doing that.Yeah.Because we all know it's a bit in.when someone farts and I think what you should do what we should all do as human beings is say you fart I fart we fart we all fart mate yeah definitely get the grammar in don't get the shame out get the stigma out get it out and okay don't do pull my finger that's not appropriate that I used to go out the bloke who did pull my finger and I was like okay that's taking it too far my finger is unacceptable unacceptable unacceptable but farting is acceptable acceptable part of life and a part of life and also now that I've had a fart that
24:47came out when I wasn't expecting.Talking to the head of drama.Talking to the head of drama of a private school somewhere in Sussex,I feel like I really bonded with Celia.I was like, oh my God.Sometimes it comes out.You're not even ready for it.She radicalised farting.
24:59I have never, I don't think, I think all of us are going to approach fartingin a completely different way now.I agree.I agree.Especially as women.Yeah.Yeah.Because men can do it like, oh, I wouldn't go in there.
25:11Yeah.But a lady.You can't do that.A lady doesn't.I have.I wouldn't go in there.We all do it.Especially when the fucking.
25:17toilet is in the dressing roomthat we're all sharingand you have to doand sometimesoh my God there's nothing worse thanyou're in the dressing roomthere's no other comedians are there yetyou've gone in you've got to have a poo
25:29there's nothing you can do about itit's poo time yeah you come outthree comedians are there oh I'll just go inI need a way don't go in thereare you out of your mindwhat are you doingdon't go back in theremy favourite form of facial panic
25:43is whenwhen someone comes out of a publictoilet and goes, I didn't do that.I didn't do that. It's blocked.I'm like, oh, right. Okay. Does protesttoo much, I think. And also at thispoint, I'm going in.Who goes to to the toilet? What else is going to be in? I mean, I don't know.
25:59I wasn't expecting some flower rangingwhen I got in. I was expecting eithera we or a poo, and you've done one of the twoand now I shall walk in after you.Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of etiquette to unpackwith. The very fact that we have to go tothe toilet and pretend that we've never pooed.Yeah. Exactly. You know.
26:15I feel very liberated by this conversation.And thanks to Celia Imory.Yeah, and thanks to Celia Imory.And the next time you're in a public toilet and you hear a woman just let one gobecause she's in that she's thought she's alone.But you've walked in just at the point where she's like, oh, fuck.I think we should all give her a round of applause.Yes, 100%.
26:33We just go, well done.That sounded great.That's shame, the shame.I remember years ago I was in a play at Bristol Old Vic.Okay.And it was quite a fancy.see a fairSam West
26:51was directing itand Rupert Pemery Jonesand Dervla Kowin were the leadsIt was a proper big playI mean what were you doing then?I was I playedI know, I don't know how they let me inand when I tell you this story
27:05you'll understand why I wasn't asked backit wasIt was dangerous liaisonsand I had two scenes playingThe French Sex WorkOh, I was going to say you're going to be a maid or a sex won't.Yeah, 100%.Get that mock cab.
27:26We were having notes one day.And it was all, I was really punching above my weight on that production.You're a very good actor.Thank you very much.But they were all like, these are like, you know.I know what you mean.You know what you're.It could be a class issue.
27:42I think from the names you've just pulled out of the hat, it's a class issue.And I was there to play the sex workers.And I farted in a note session.Okay, but was it one of the, was it silent but violent?Was it loud and violent?Because Ben is really good at anthropomorphising my farts.So he was, some of them, he says, are quite sort of plaintive.And then some of them, he says, they're thugs.
28:17So I think it was more on the thug-ish end.You let a thug out and let a thug out.And it went,And in the middle of the nose.And Sam West was like, oh, Carrie.And I went, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.And anyway, I haven't had much theater work since then.I mean, listen, Gary, I mean, I would actually, if I was a director, I would employ you for that.
29:00Get her back in.Get thug-ass back.Who's the one that let that thug out?Bring her back.She's perfect for a sex worker.Oh, God.Anyway, if I'd had Celia Imrey as my...If she had been there.
29:17been there or if this had happened back thenI wouldn't have had the shame. No one would have had shame. We'd have gone whatwhat, we would have all embraced the ceiling moment. Yeah, we'd have gone and dida celia. Oh she did an emery. Yeah. She's done an emery. It's fine andClaudia said she does it as well. And they're national treasures so. Soyeah exactly. I've just joined theraft of national treasures. Yeah. The ladies who fought. Yeah.
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