Memory Lane with Kerry Godliman and Jen Brister - S04 E33: Kerry Godliman

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

"Can I have a biscuit... I don't want pickles with my tea..."Kerry has brought in a little tin of tiny pictures to talk about with Jen and they don't disappoint... But... The main topic of conversation is farting so yes, we've gone HIGH BROW this week!JEN & KERRY STAND-UP TOURSKerry's 2025 tour is on sale now - https://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/kerry-godliman-tickets/artist/1866728Jen's 2025 tour is on sale now - https://www.jenbrister.co.uk/tour/PICS & MORE - https://www.instagram.com/memory_lane_podcast/A Dot Dot Dot Production produced by Joel PorterHosted by Jen Brister & Kerry Godliman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello and welcome to Memory Lane. I'm Jen Bristair. And I'm Kerry Godleman. Each week we'll be taking a trip down Memory Lane with our very special guest as they bring in four photos from their lives to talk about. To check out the photos we'd be having a natter with them about, they're on the episode image and you can also see them a little bit more clearly on our Instagram page. So have a little look at Memory Lane podcast. Come on, we can all be nosy together. Look, I'm having a cup of tea And you know what would be quite nice with it You're not having a biscuit? I really want a biscuit It's shortbread, it's shortbread What?

After the last time where you said, I don't like biscuits So you know what I hate is people offering me biscuits The last thing I ever want with the biscuit And I said to you what, even with a cup of tea You don't want a biscuit No, I don't want a biscuit I don't want a bit of cake

So now I've got biscuits And you've got your fucking pickles And I've got my biscuits And do you know what, Kerry I'm all right for pickles. Can I just say, sometimes when you're in a comedy flow, and it might not all be accurate truth. Oh, is that right, Kerry? Like you do whole routines about your children.

It doesn't mean you don't like them. Of course I like them. Well, I quite like biscuits. Sometimes you go into a comedy slipstream and you get excited. You were opened with that. It wasn't even a slip stream. It was, you were right out of the gate. I tell you what I hate about biscuits.

I wasn't even ready for it. I was like, can we warm up a bit first? Hello, Jen. How are you? It was my warm up. It was a biscuit warm up. All right, I'm really, this, the ASMR of me opening these biscuits is afterscale awful. What does ASMR stand for again?

It starts for auto-exphyxiation sounding motor robots. Motor neurons. It's something to do with, I knew what it is, but I didn't know what the actual words were. Oh, someone will tell us. Okay. This will go in the comments. Here you go. Well, this is my total U-turn on biscuits.

I can't believe this. I've gone in hard. Not only are you eating a biscuit, you're eating on a podcast. That is rule number one, no eating on a podcast. Maybe people will all like it. Like, they're kind of, it'll be someone's kink. Everyone wants a biscuit now. It'll be someone's kink, and then I'll make a real load of money on a side hustle eating biscuits on Mike.

Can I just say that that is actually a pet hate of mine is sticky mouths on radio. sticky mouthed people on radio is one of the most disgusting things known to humankind you know when you hear people and they go and then yes and that's when and that you can hear that their mouth is sticking together honestly Chloe and I were listening to a podcast we were driving probably to the to the ghost house hotel and and we're listening to a podcast together and at one point a sticky man came on and Chloe went I can't have this sticky man I went, it's too much, isn't it? She went, we'll have to fast forward, sticky guy. He might have had a condition. I don't care what its condition is. Have a glass of water.

Do something with the sticking is. What it suggests to me is somebody's very dehydrated. Yeah. And they need to gargle. They need to lubricate. And often with a biscuit, because it absorbs all the moisture in your mouth, you may, I'm not saying that you will, but you may well be left a sticky mouth. And if you are, Kerry.

Well, I'll lubricate with my tea. Get out. Get out. Shall I finish my biscuit and then open my tin of pictures? Yeah, so you've come. Actually, when that tin came out, I thought, and you said, oh, Jan, I've got a gift for you. I thought, is it a biscuit? Oh, no, no.

It was a scarf. And it was a scarf, which I can't eat. I like this. It's a lovely scarf, though. It's not from me. It's not from me. at Bronwyn at Lowey. We'll put a link in the show notes.

I'll put the scarf on later. Okay, so tell me it's not edible what's in here. Not edible. So we were meant to have a guest. This has happened before on our show. This often happens with us. We are the kind of podcasters that people feel like it's kind of not set in stone. I think that's all pods.

I wouldn't take that personally. I am taking it personally. We're pod fluid. I've always wanted to be fluid about it. with something because I'm very fixed as a human being and I haven't done fluidity and now I'm pod fluid

and now I'm pod fluid okay great I want to be like the young people I want to be more fluid I think you're fluid no no you are quite locked in I'm locked in there's no fluidity with my sexuality

well in the pod land we're fluid because you know we talk to a lot of very busy people and shit changes in the world of busy people and also we're very busy people exactly so I guess today who may may not come back

He couldn't make it today No So we're going to do our own episode And I said I've got a tin Of tiny photos A tin of tiny photos You know like passport size photos

Tens of tiny photos And there's hundreds And obviously we won't be able to go through all of them Okay You could do a lucky dip of photos Can I? Can I do a lucky dip?

Maybe this one particularly appealed to me Because there were some on my fridge as well So they go all through time So this is Elsie is a baby In a passport photo My God, that is so crazy. Let me see that picture of Elsie.

I haven't said. Yeah. So, you know, you must have this with your kids. Is that Elsie? Yes. Isn't there anything more silly than having to have a baby in a passport photo? You've literally got to hold up their neck. Well, you can see Ben, it's Ben, is Ben, isn't it?

Ben's holding Elsie up, like a puppet. Ben is holding Elsie up like a ventriloquist puppet. And you could just see his hand. And there were like rules. You know the rules of passport photos. Oh, my God, Elsie looks like Ben. Elsie looks like a little Ben. She is a tiny Ben.

When she was a baby, she was tiny Ben. She's tiny Ben. Yeah. Oh my gosh, with really big, big cheeks. Yeah. It's so silly having to make a baby have a passport. Especially when you're holding a back. And you're not like a muppet.

This is Hounslow Borough College. Where I did my A levels. 92, 93. I was in, I was in Twickenham. Down the road, mate. We went to college. Did you have go to a cabbage patch? No.

Okay, carry on. London Transport, child rate photo card, 1989. Oh, that's cute. So I can't all these cards. I don't really know because I'm an archivist. You're an archivist. Chloe keeps all this crap, but I chuck everything away. Well, you could have bought yours in and we couldn't check them.

What are you laughing at me now for? Hair, hair, face, complexion. I'm laughing because there's all stages of Kerry. Perms. But this one's great. This is every girl I went to school with in the 90s. 100%. You could have been any girl that I went to school with.

Perm. Yeah, hair up. Hair up. A big gold hoop earrings. 100. And probably lots of hairspers. Did you lose lots of, did you lack of your hair? Super soft.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, well, there we go. Wow. That's incredible. You literally, that, looking at this particular photograph, I'm joking aside, I've just been transported back to getting the 131 bus. There you go. Like all these things, because I suppose now we have all that, like, we have a lot of stuff in our phone, don't we?

Like all this. And now we used to have to carry all these cards around. Oh my God. ID cards and photos. And there was so much fun to be had from getting like, the same. I mean, this is me and Elsie as it happens, but actually there's a few in here that are just me and my mates

when we're in our teens or old boyfriends because they had a photo booth at Greenford Tube Station. That's me and Despinner, my childhood sort of like best mate through school. Well, I say childhood. I still see Despinner, but... I mean, look at this. This is great lipstick.

Yeah, we really... Like, you basically glam up, go down the photo booth. You look like Michelle Tully in that picture. It was said before. More often than not, Sharon, not Michelle. Not more often Letitia Dean. I told you that story about me working at the hair dressers. Shell fowler's happening, very strong vibes there.

There's all these people I went to school with. Katie Hillier. Like these are all photo. Just random people. This was my boyfriend when I was 16. Oh, let me see your boyfriend. Let me see your boyfriend. Come on.

Right, which one? I think there's a spliff in the picture as well. Yeah, that was a boyfriend. Oh, which one's your boyfriend? I don't want to say. Left or right? Left, I'm going to say. These are just people's faces

Of the two young men in this particular photograph I'm going to say that you're the guy Left, this guy Yeah, yeah, yeah And I went out with him for about There's Desperin and now with blonde hair Oh She bleached her and a perm

And crimps? No, her hair's curly This is me with a bob Oh my God, Kerry What is going on? There's so many choices that you're I know, it's just This is what I mean, it's a tin

It's just a tin Yeah You look like You, you, this is Star Trek, that you, were you? I'm posing, aren't I? I'm doing the eyes off, which is an early version of what we later got to do. It looks a bit like you're one of your early Edinburgh posters. Star Trek Voyager.

I've had this theory, I have this theory that women in comedians in Edinburgh posters for the best part of a decade. We couldn't look at the camera. Didn't look at the camera. And I got early practice in with my looking off, looking off camera. They would tell you to do that. The photographer would go, now look left, now look right, now look up, now look down, now look as if you're looking to the corner of your arm. of your eye, and you're like, by the end of it, you're like, can I look at the camera? No.

No, they don't want, they don't, because women can't look directly at cameras, Kerry, because it's something to do with being a witch. No, exactly. We're witches. It's a good one of my mum and my brother and me in a photo booth in Greenford. Oh, I love the way, who, who picked the blue? Because there's two curtains. Curtains.

So you do your seat. Get your seat at the right height. Get your seat. And then you do orange or blue. Orange or blue curtains. I noticed very few people went blue. Lots of more people went orange. I always went orange. Yeah, it pops.

Yeah. I mean, you've got my skin tone. You can't do blue because you look grey. Right. You've got to do orange. You've got to do strong and bold colours. It works. It works.

Loads of my mum and her perms. Oh my God. But I can totally, Jess in this picture is hilarious because he hasn't. He looks kind of like that now. There's a really good one of Jess here, actually. That is actually weird. Do you think? You can see him there.

Yeah. Oh, you've got it. Oh, no, here. Look at Jess. Okay. It's got some... It's got... It's a bit like Frank.

He does look a bit like Frank. He's got some strong eyebrows there. Yeah. It's a funny time, isn't it, that age? I see it now with Frank. That kind of between a man and a boy. It's a terrible age for them. When their necks get long and their eyebrows bush up.

It's when they're, their shoulders start to get wide but their chests haven't expanded yet so they've got like almost like a pigeon chest like some wide shoulders and then weird sort of downy whiskery stuff long necks why do they have long necks yeah because they haven't they're not they're just not grown into anything and then they get that weird lumpy thing that adam's appley thing yeah they look like yeah they look a bit like pigeons it's a funny age it is a funny age it's unbelievable to me that adolescent boys now offense to all adolescent boys out there that exists.

That doesn't think they're listening, mate. I just reminds me those two adolescent boys left your gig at latitude and you went, yeah, go, there's nothing for you here. I could see they were like, oh my God, we've got to get out of there. She said the menopause four times. How do we get out? Where's the door?

Go on, run free! Adolescent boys that you thought were listening, but I pointed out on. Absolutely not listening. How do adolescent girls find them attractive? Absolutely. They don't. They go for older boys. No, they do. Adolescent boys. I was an adolescent girl and adolescent girls liked adolescent boys.

They did. But then adolescent girls are complicated. There's a lot going on. I know, there's a lot going on. But often girls go for older boys, don't they? They do. They do. But even then, they're still adolescent, aren't they? But they're not adolescent, adolescent. I see what you mean. Okay, fine. Moving on. has been kept and why it pleases me because a lot of them are like like these like really tiny I think in the olden in the 70s in the olden days

in the olden days you would get your photographs your normal size wise and then you got a strip oh yeah of miniatures I've got loads of those so after my mom died we have got oh my god you're absolutely right yes get a normal size photo and then you get yeah you're right you get a strip of these tiny I've got hundreds of hundreds of these right you have got Yes, I have. I've got loads and loads of things. I'm not going to bring my news. Please do.

They're just out-focused pictures of my mum pushing a pram through Hyde Park or something. But then you get this. You get these. That's very cute. You get these 70s. Delights. You don't do, yeah, because now you don't get.

I don't know where the originals are. What the fuck were these four? I don't know. What were they for? Key rings? I mean, I'm wearing my varies and I can't make out this bloody picture. No, they're tiny. Tiny, tiny pictures.

But it was a thing. It was a thing that you just got your pictures printed up. Maybe they can make them into magnets. For crafting. You were saying they're for crafting project. Mosaics. Do you remember that was a time where people made mosaics, but we're not doing it anymore. My mum does.

Mom likes making a mosaic. What did she make it out of? I think you get kits. No. Yes. Don't you just get a part? Have you been to Rhabi craft? Have you been to Rovemikov.

Have you met Chloe? Have you met Chloe? Right. She loves a hobby. Well, let's call Chloe up and check about Mosaic kits. Because Mosaics when I was a kid is that you would go and you would get a tile and you would smash it up. Oh yeah, that is proper. And then you get another tile you smash it up.

Yeah. And then you'd mosaic. Well, now you can buy a kit. You can buy a bloody kit. Yeah. So you don't have to be smashing anything up. You have to smash anything else. Someone's done the smashing for you.

I remember the first flat that Chloe bought in North London when we moved in. Yes. The woman had been a very. heavy mosaica. Oh really? On the walls? Everywhere. She'd really got into it.

That's a shame because that probably meant a lot to her but nothing to you and it had to go. I can't imagine it meant anything to anyone. It was really bad. And you had to, what, take a hammer to it? I mean, gladly. Yeah, with joy. I brought a lot of purpose with that hammer. At some points I was smashing bits.

It didn't have any mosaic and I was like angry that she'd done it. Wow. It was terrible. And it was properly in the walls. Oh, in the walls, in the garden. She's done it everywhere. She'd spent hours on that. I know.

And that says a lot about her. But that is a thing. You are, I mean, we mustn't judge. Like, that's a mantra you live by. I mean, fucking hell. We mustn't judge. Actually, Kerry, I go with an open heart and I'm full of empathy and compassion. Yeah.

Look at my grandparents and then let's see how this pans out. Okay. Let me have a look. This is. Oh, that is so cute. Who is that in the background with the hair? What a hairdo. Yeah, he's a 70s man.

He looks like a kind of drawing from Raymond Briggs. How, all right, okay, I'm going to ask you a question now. Your parents, your grandparents in this picture, how old were they? I don't. Forty-two. Have you noticed that people in the 70s? Yeah, we thought they were old and we were old and you found out they're like 36

You're like, what the hell happened to you? Yeah, it's interesting You got old, people were old early They went The fashion was so, like they were that generation They wore, they would like live through the war And all the rest of it And then you can see from my dad

That he is a boomer and he is a young Yeah And it's like you could They're only probably about 20 years apart Those people Exactly I know And they're from different planets Completely different planets

Yeah And even now, you know when you look at that generation and like our generation, like we are trapped in amber. Do you think? Oh my God, yeah. Look at me. What am I wearing?

Yeah, you dressed like you did when you were 20. When I was 15. Right. I mean, there's questions to be asked. There's frozen cons to that. I think that's okay. What are you suggesting that you should wear a two piece? I am saying.

Because you're not going to suddenly rock an aesthetic that isn't your vibe, are you? No, of course not. And I'm as much so like a cardigan. It's probably not. for me. Although I was saying that, I think I've got one. I was wearing one earlier. But it's just a different thing, isn't it? But that, yeah, you're right. I wonder how old

they were. You're right. They probably were in their 40s. Yeah. And I just would have thought that they were old. Old. Like nearly dead. Yeah. Looking at them going, how can you still enjoy your life? They're grandparents. I just look at old people going, I bet you kind of wish you were dead. You know, you look at people going,

what's the point of been alive. And you've got no idea what their interior quality of life. In my head, I'm like, you like soup. What else? What else going on? I mean, that does sound like a young person. I think the young people are looking at us like that now going. What do you like soup? What's going on? Yeah. Like, what do you mean? You like gardening and crafting. And mosaicing. Shoot yourself in the face. It's over.

Well, I have a lovely time with my embroidering. You do. You do. And you're very good at it. Thanks, babe. You're welcome. My granddad was a photographer and these were me as a baby with a Christmas hat on and I think cards were made out of them. Oh, we're entering another. Holy fucking shit. Do you know when Rob Rouse came on and he brought that photograph and we went, wow Rob, that is quite the photo of you looking a little bit like Bernard Manning. Yeah, chubby baby.

And Kerry. Chubby baby competition. Gary, Kerry. This photograph of you is literally... Rotund. A series of spheres? Yes. I was chunky as well actually. Maybe it was 70s babies. It's all babies, mate. Is it? Were yours not chunky? Well, no, because they were twins. So they weren't really chunky. Oh, okay. Chunky baby is a thing.

Tunky baby. I don't get me wrong. If I see a fat baby, I've got to chew it. Yes. I love a chunky baby. Well, I was a fat baby. I mean, there's a lot to get your teeth around. here. Do you like my Christmas hat though? Yes. And also, because I'm, you know, the colour isn't there. You do look a little bit like you could rock that hat at any time. You know? Or like just a general, Willy Willy Willy Winky. Wee Willie Winky. What was that? What was that about? Wee Willie Winky, something

through the house. Putting out windows. Putting out the something. I think I won't be making shit out. No, no. But what was he doing? And why was he called Wee Willie Winky? Well, there's a lot to unpack from all old poems. That was the bit in, um, Celebrity. Chaiters when Celia Rimmory said about putting pussy in the well. And everybody was like, what? It was like, yeah. Yeah, that was a... We were all put pussy in the well.

Yeah, yeah. Same with Wee Willie Winky. The best bit of celebrity trait is just a sidetrack. Oh no, let's talk about that. Was Celia Remy farting? It was the best thing ever. I don't think I've ever seen any television highlight. One of my favorite things that got skimmed over was when Claudia, like, basically

aligned with her and went, because she said, I always own up to them. And then Claudia went, yes, so do I. In its sort of solidarity. I love that Claudia, at all points, was in solidarity with almost everyone at all times. It was just the gift that kept giving, wasn't it? I was hoping immediately to be flooded with memes of Celia, and I only got one. Oh, I haven't had any.

Oh, my God. No, that's a fair point. Someone did a whole cartoon of the whole thing and of Celia inry farting. Oh, brilliant. And I've watched it about 78 times. Oh, will you send it to me? Yeah, I said it to you, of course. Oh, that sounds wonderful.

I was really glad that there was a kind of public fart. I don't. And done by like a really, because have you ever farted? What's the worst? Have you ever farted on stage? Yes. Right. And it was heard.

I don't know if it was heard, but I definitely moved in a direction that forced something out. Right. And got away with it? I don't, I think the front row heard, but I don't think the whole audience. And you can't do your attention to it. I couldn't. It's a real dilemma. But if you are on celebrity traitors and you're in a cabin, there's nowhere to hide.

I almost feel like she's squeaked. It sounded like something squeezed out. No, no one's pushing them out. I mean, sometimes Ben accuses me of that. And I'm like, I'm not pushing it, babe. It's just life. He's like, you did that one on purpose. You pushed it.

I didn't push it. I just didn't hold it. Yeah. That's kind of the same thing, isn't it? No, I don't agree. So what, if you're not holding it, you are... There's another setting. It just plops out.

There's another setting. No, no, no, no, no. If you're not holding it, then you've allowed it to come out and you've given it a little tickle on its way out. You've given it a certain momentum, haven't you? I know, but you have to... You're like anticipating it being quiet. You've said, okay, I'm going to do it. Oh, they're the worst.

They're the worst when you think it's going to be quiet and it's not. Well, let me tell you, I had quite the experience you the day. tell me. Oh my God. So I'm walking back. I've just done a gig a preview for my show and it's in a private school in a theatre okay. Is it in Dulwich?

No, it's in Sussex. And I don't know where the car is. I'm like a bit lost. I can't figure out how to get out and the drama teacher actually, the head of drama of this school who has been organising this whole thing. She was like, oh I'll walk you to your car. It can be a bit confusing.

So we're walking to the car And I'm, we're just having a normal chat You know, we're in deep into ball talk Deep in small talk And a fart comes out Of her ass or yours? Mine! Okay And I'm not ready for it

Yeah, full volume, I'm not ready for it It came out of nowhere And that was, that is the thing I'm like, that's never happened to me before Where I had not known a fart Was about to come out and it came out Oh, that is fucking shocking That's a development that I'm not ready for

Well, that development So what did you do? I went oh god oh and then she just I could tell she was like I don't we're not going to acknowledge that I think it's best to go in I was trying to I went oh god sorry about that and she went oh anyway so have you been and I thought I can't I can't go back and go no no let's just acknowledge that far no I think you have to you have to do a theatre piece around it and go I did a fart I did a fart I did a fart what do you think of my fart what do you think of my fart you've got to go all the way Yeah, okay.

I could have done some sort of like, I don't know, German expressionist, mime dance. I will not have the British propriety. Oh, we don't speak of such. Speak of it. Speak of the far. But they have to, you, when you begin as if you're like, oh, I'm going to introduce the fart conversation,

the other person has to embrace the fart conversation. If they resist it. Which is why I loved what Claudia did. Yeah. I just thought I really love you for doing that. Yeah. Because we all know it's a bit in. when someone farts and I think what you should do what we should all do as human beings is say you fart I fart we fart we all fart mate yeah definitely get the grammar in don't get the shame out get the stigma out get it out and okay don't do pull my finger that's not appropriate that I used to go out the bloke who did pull my finger and I was like okay that's taking it too far my finger is unacceptable unacceptable unacceptable but farting is acceptable acceptable part of life and a part of life and also now that I've had a fart that

came out when I wasn't expecting. Talking to the head of drama. Talking to the head of drama of a private school somewhere in Sussex, I feel like I really bonded with Celia. I was like, oh my God. Sometimes it comes out. You're not even ready for it. She radicalised farting.

I have never, I don't think, I think all of us are going to approach farting in a completely different way now. I agree. I agree. Especially as women. Yeah. Yeah. Because men can do it like, oh, I wouldn't go in there.

Yeah. But a lady. You can't do that. A lady doesn't. I have. I wouldn't go in there. We all do it. Especially when the fucking.

toilet is in the dressing room that we're all sharing and you have to do and sometimes oh my God there's nothing worse than you're in the dressing room there's no other comedians are there yet you've gone in you've got to have a poo

there's nothing you can do about it it's poo time yeah you come out three comedians are there oh I'll just go in I need a way don't go in there are you out of your mind what are you doing don't go back in there my favourite form of facial panic

is when when someone comes out of a public toilet and goes, I didn't do that. I didn't do that. It's blocked. I'm like, oh, right. Okay. Does protest too much, I think. And also at this point, I'm going in. Who goes to to the toilet? What else is going to be in? I mean, I don't know.

I wasn't expecting some flower ranging when I got in. I was expecting either a we or a poo, and you've done one of the two and now I shall walk in after you. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of etiquette to unpack with. The very fact that we have to go to the toilet and pretend that we've never pooed. Yeah. Exactly. You know.

I feel very liberated by this conversation. And thanks to Celia Imory. Yeah, and thanks to Celia Imory. And the next time you're in a public toilet and you hear a woman just let one go because she's in that she's thought she's alone. But you've walked in just at the point where she's like, oh, fuck. I think we should all give her a round of applause. Yes, 100%.

We just go, well done. That sounded great. That's shame, the shame. I remember years ago I was in a play at Bristol Old Vic. Okay. And it was quite a fancy. see a fair Sam West

was directing it and Rupert Pemery Jones and Dervla Kowin were the leads It was a proper big play I mean what were you doing then? I was I played I know, I don't know how they let me in and when I tell you this story

you'll understand why I wasn't asked back it was It was dangerous liaisons and I had two scenes playing The French Sex Work Oh, I was going to say you're going to be a maid or a sex won't. Yeah, 100%. Get that mock cab.

We were having notes one day. And it was all, I was really punching above my weight on that production. You're a very good actor. Thank you very much. But they were all like, these are like, you know. I know what you mean. You know what you're. It could be a class issue.

I think from the names you've just pulled out of the hat, it's a class issue. And I was there to play the sex workers. And I farted in a note session. Okay, but was it one of the, was it silent but violent? Was it loud and violent? Because Ben is really good at anthropomorphising my farts. So he was, some of them, he says, are quite sort of plaintive. And then some of them, he says, they're thugs.

So I think it was more on the thug-ish end. You let a thug out and let a thug out. And it went, And in the middle of the nose. And Sam West was like, oh, Carrie. And I went, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And anyway, I haven't had much theater work since then. I mean, listen, Gary, I mean, I would actually, if I was a director, I would employ you for that.

Get her back in. Get thug-ass back. Who's the one that let that thug out? Bring her back. She's perfect for a sex worker. Oh, God. Anyway, if I'd had Celia Imrey as my... If she had been there.

been there or if this had happened back then I wouldn't have had the shame. No one would have had shame. We'd have gone what what, we would have all embraced the ceiling moment. Yeah, we'd have gone and did a celia. Oh she did an emery. Yeah. She's done an emery. It's fine and Claudia said she does it as well. And they're national treasures so. So yeah exactly. I've just joined the raft of national treasures. Yeah. The ladies who fought. Yeah.