Memory Lane with Kerry Godliman and Jen Brister - S04 E34: Kyla Cobbler

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

"I was cursed..." We have the utterly brilliant @kylacobblercomedy on the show this week.We talked about holy communion, siblings, hats, curses and loads loads more. Kyla is on tour now all over the... UK - https://kylacobbler.com/gone-rogue/ PLUS... Kerry and Jen chat about TRAITORS and Kerry's (computer) belly button fluff. JEN & KERRY STAND-UP TOURSKerry's 2025 tour is on sale now - https://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/kerry-godliman-tickets/artist/1866728Jen's 2025 tour is on sale now - https://www.jenbrister.co.uk/tour/PICS & MORE - https://www.instagram.com/memory_lane_podcast/A Dot Dot Dot Production produced by Joel PorterHosted by Jen Brister & Kerry Godliman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:20 So I need to take it today to get it cleaned out and sorted. But in this instance, I've tried sticking things in there. What do you mean a hoover? an actual Yeah but surely you need a special tiny hoover This is we're talking about A tiny hole
Starting point is 00:01:35 I use big hoovers for little holes sometimes Hello and welcome to Memory Lane I'm Jen Brister And I'm Kerry Godleman Each week we'll be taking a trip Down Memory Lane
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Starting point is 00:02:04 Come on, we can all be nosy together. I'm making some tough decisions. Are you? What are they? Well, I'm going to clear out my belly buttons. Oh, yeah, fine. But you've got to get the hoover for that. And I'm going to boundary myself. That's the other thing. I've got to have boundaries. I've got to Brené Brown myself up. What do you mean, boundary?
Starting point is 00:02:24 I've got to say no to things. Oh, wow. Okay, so what have you said yes to? I don't want to go into it here because it, but I've just, I don't just stop. What have you said yes to? Oh, Kerry. Kerry, can I remind you that you're the person that has a go at me? I know.
Starting point is 00:02:40 This is what I mean. I say yes to everything. Well, we need to support each other. Okay, well, I'm here to support you. What did you say yes to? And can I have a go at you? Yes, you can have a go at me. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Okay, great. I'd love to know what it is. Come on. It's a thing, it's no big scoop. It's just doing loads of radio things. that I don't want to do. I've been seeing your PR is through the roof. It's through the roof.
Starting point is 00:03:03 It's bananas. I don't want it. I don't do, well, I do virtually no PR. Yeah, because you've got a million followers. You're doing, you're doing my PR for me, and I appreciate that. I almost feel like when you're doing your PR, in a way, you're doing my PR. I like me to start doing PR. Kerry's on new swimming.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Kerry's on the one show. Kerry's on the blah, blah, blah. She's on Sunday brunch, and I feel like, oh, That's it. She's done it for both of us. Yeah, because I always plug Memory Lane, by the way. I know. And Bone to pick with you, Ben bought your flyer back from your gig. You don't even mention Memory Lane.
Starting point is 00:03:38 What do you mean the flyer? He came back with your flyer. On the back, it's got your biog. Jen does this. She did that. Live at the Apollo. Oh, I don't know anything about that. No mention of Memory Lane. No mention of Memory Lane.
Starting point is 00:03:48 You need to start. I didn't even know there was a flyer. I didn't know about the flyer. I didn't know. Genuinely, why is there a flyer for a show that you're all attending surely a flyer should be for something that you haven't said I can I can address this I can address this for future flyers which I wasn't even aware now I know I'm paying for flyers I didn't even know that I will I will address the
Starting point is 00:04:11 flyer situation because that is unacceptable and I appreciate the feedback and I think you're right to say that to me I what I will say is that any PR that you do whatever it is any sort of promotion going on a chat show going on a podcast going on thing going on you are deleting a little bit of yourself as you go that's what's happening and that's how i feel yeah but you can then bring that bit of you back how you have to you've got to nurture it but that little bit of you is gone for a short while it's gone um that's why i don't do it because the deletion pro i mean i've already got very little of me anyway so if you start deleting i'll literally become like a silhouette an angry silhouette but still a silhouette so
Starting point is 00:04:55 So I limit the PR. I think I need to have like morning chats with you that are like less than three minutes where you go, Kerry, you say no to that, you say no to that. And then I say, Jen, you say no to that. You say no to that. And then we get on with our day. Yeah. Yeah, that could be our tagline, couldn't it?
Starting point is 00:05:15 Kerry and Jen say no to that. Yes. I just need to say no to things that I really don't want to do. Do it. Anything with the word celebrity. in it, it's got to go. Yeah, although celebrity traitors, I'm sorry, but what an absolute banger of a show.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I'm very, very invested in this show. Yeah. I'm always invested in traitors and it's, as you know, I don't watch, you know, celebrity anything. Me and you get a lot of pleasure out of this show. Oh, my God, I absolutely love it. Why? Why are we being?
Starting point is 00:05:48 Why? I don't know. I really don't know. You and me would be awful on it. Oh, we would be, that's partly why I love. love it. You, oh my God, would be the worst traitor. Yeah, it'd be awful. You've got absolutely no sides to you. You would be so shit. I would write Kate on the board because of your hat and then, because they all say, they all say, oh, I've put your name. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I don't know why. And I'm like, I'm going to have to start being clear. No, you've got to know why. If I've got nothing to go on, it'll have to be your hat. Yeah, I mean, the hat's inexcusable. I mean, there's a couple of things Jonathan Ross has been wearing. And I was like, At one point you looked like Charlotte Holmes having a breakdown. I said, what are you doing? What's going on here? His outfits are extraordinary. So I put on social media, I think we can all agree,
Starting point is 00:06:32 the only winner is Jonathan's stylist. And then Ed Gamble messaged me and went, Kerry, he hasn't got stylist those are his clothes. No, he hasn't. That is his clothes. He's always been really outlandish. And he always, this isn't a new thing. He's not suddenly gone, I'm going to go on traders and stuff wearing weird shit.
Starting point is 00:06:48 No, he's got all that game. That is him. But, yeah, he, he, yeah, he's, he's, he's, got some looks there for a 64-year-old man, which I'm enjoying. No, over the moon with. I love all of the, every time they get rid of someone, I just think, and this is a compliment to you that I want you to leave. I'm not even sure why I'm saying your name.
Starting point is 00:07:08 It's just a subconscious thing I don't like about your face, but I want you to know it's a compliment to you that I've put your name down. Oh, it's hilarious. And also, my other beef with the other normal show is sometimes when people are really vulnerable on it, I'm uncomfortable. Well, when we've talked about this before and I get a bit like, oh, are they being looked after? But because they're celebrities, I know they're all fine,
Starting point is 00:07:28 so I can just enjoy it more. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I'm loving it, Kerry. Traitors is it for me. Do you think we'll ever get on those shows? Do you think we'll ever get on those shows, Jen? Oh, God, no. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Do you know what? That is the advantage of doing PR is that you get seen enough. People think, oh, I should have her on Traders. Whereas people like me that go, I won't go on anything. then they'll go, well then you shan't go on the thing you want to go on. No, I know. There's no, it's not, it's a dark art. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:08:01 Who knows? It's all load of bollets. But I am going to get bounderied. I'm going to be boundered. That's my new thing. Next year, 2026, boundaries. I'm excited for you and I'm excited for me because I'm going to join you on your boundary train. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:08:13 We'll be the boundary twins. You wait. You won't see me doing a single charity event. Well, you're on tour most of next year, so. Yeah. And I don't think I'll be filling any games. apps doing anything for free. Forget about it. Don't even ask me. Jen, who are we talking to today? Today, Kerry, we are talking to the absolutely hilarious Kyla. I had so much fun chatting
Starting point is 00:08:34 to Kyla and the laughter, the joy. What a woman. Oh, this was such a fun chat and also I think I learned a lot. I learned a lot. Well, I reconnected with things I think I already knew but she she reminded me of the importance of things and I was like you're right you're right I loved her I loved her I know me too not only she really funny she's just got her she's got her head screwed on she's she's she's she's a wise wise woman and this was a really really fun chat so here is Kerry and I talking to the wonderful Kyla cobbler Oh yes Thanks for sending
Starting point is 00:09:21 Do you know I found this so hard Really? Yeah because I'm not a photo person and you couldn't find them Oh no I sent them in but I was like I don't know if my my I got everyone together Rallied my mom my sister and my husband And I was like right I got a five photos And I was like it has to be kind of funny
Starting point is 00:09:37 And I was like but I just I don't photograph I don't like being photographed so I'm not really And I don't take photos of people So I was like Jesus I'm not great at taking photos No, you're not. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I was very quick. Actually, you cut you off by the knees now. Yeah, yeah. You're not, no. But are you? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:56 I take photos. I take photos. I look at old photos. I love all photos now. Yeah, I love all these. Some of these are very funny. Yeah, yeah, they are. But I can't deal with,
Starting point is 00:10:06 I think because of, because of fucking the iPhones and stuff. Exactly. They've changed our relationship to photos. But I think if you're of the generation where you've got boxers, of old pictures then your relationship with pictures
Starting point is 00:10:21 is a bit different yeah yeah well when we were in when we were in South Africa my fiancee South African we went on like a big huge 5,000 kilometre a road trip and we brought a Kodak
Starting point is 00:10:35 and it was amazing oh yeah old school go get them developed yeah just like a little yeah it was really cool yeah because you're more careful about the pictures you were you're like oh this would be nice
Starting point is 00:10:45 so let's try this or you know There's loads of me weeing outside. He thought that was hilarious. I've got a few outdoor piss shots. What's that about? Oh, like blackmail or something. No, it's when it comes up on their screensaver. There's one of me and I'm, oh God, I can't even talk about it.
Starting point is 00:11:01 But I am going for a wee. We've gone into a family cubicle. It's me surrounded by the children and I'm weeing. And Chloe's taking a picture and I've looked up just at that moment. Yeah, that's face. I know that face. And it's that look of what. Outrage.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Outrage. Don't do it. Vulnerment. So much. So, but when it comes up, so we were out for a drink with some friends where we live in Brighton, we were at the pub, and Chloe put a phone down, and that photo was the screen, that was the screen thing. And I went, take it, take it off, take it off now. And you do it all your ability to manage technology?
Starting point is 00:11:38 You're like, how do you do this? And also, because I don't have an iPhone, I don't understand how to take it off on this. Oh my God, take it off. It's so funny. It's worth getting O-Fay with iPhones just to take that picture off. I'm like literally, now I know how to take it off, but that was a... Anyway, by the time I took it off, everyone in the pub and seen it. Also, peeing for us is very vulnerable.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Oh, it's really involved. I mean, I get everything, you're stroaching down, you can't run, you're out in sprint mode. No, it's a whole. Yeah, it's a whole thing, like, I hate that. And you watch out and then people are like, someone's coming over and you're like, I can't stop the stream. No, you can't stop the stream. And then the trousers are half, oh no, it's fine, they're not coming. And then you peed in your pants.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Yeah. I peed in my Birkenstock. One of my Birkenstocks is just piss soul. From us in road trips and I'm like, I got a piss in the Birkenstock. And Simon's like, there's piss in your shoe and I'm like, look, whatever. I peed in the safari. It was terrifying. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Because I was there. Obviously, nothing happened. But in my mind, I was like, this is the line's going to see my little moon furry Irish bum and be like, that is the juice thing. Yeah. Oh, the trickle of piss. Just like, they can smell it. They can smell it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:41 It's terrifying. Yeah. It's terrifying. Yeah. Oh, man. And I was after two glasses away, so he's pissing a lot. Oh, yeah. Pissing gets real after a certain age, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:12:50 There's a lot of pissing. Also, if you are, apparently, well, this is true, actually. My dad lived in Norway for a while. We went to Norway, and it gets really cold, yeah? And you pee more when it's cold. Is it? Because your bladder shrinks, and so you have to pick, anyway. Lots of outdoor pissing.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yeah, but like, fjord piss. Yeah, fjured pissing at like minus 27 degrees. You've got to take your pants down. Oh, man. And we could set up a podcast of just talking about outdoor pisses and all the places we've had them. And the photos. And the photos to back up.
Starting point is 00:13:20 This is niche. We don't even, do we need these motives? Some of these are fantastic. I love the zoom in. We'll come to that in a minute, but let's go to the... I don't know what I said, no. Is this the first one? Amazing.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Amazing. How old are you there? So that is my sister's communion. And my mum and dad in that photo are like, fuck, I mean, they're like 20 something. I mean, it's crazy to me. Because I used so angry at my dad. And then I got older and I was like, oh, you were crushing it.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Because like I'm 34. Like at my age, he had like a wife, two kids and a mortgage. I know. It's mad when you've got young parents. Oh, my, it is. And you get older. You're like, oh my God, I was so angry. But like, I went for like three days with kitchen roll instead of toilet paper.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Because I kept forgetting to buy it. and then me and get my dad I'm like I can't even manage myself oh my god yeah yeah yeah yeah so that's my sister's communion and that was me in that beautiful dress and a hat that I loved what's going on with that hat
Starting point is 00:14:28 my so my mom loved it like my mom I've never seen a hat like it and you know what it's incredible I have a gigantic head so she went out of her way to get that hat like she's from Belfast so I'm sure she went over the border right to get like
Starting point is 00:14:42 she hunted that hat down She hunted that hat down Like there was like a proper And how would you hunt a hat like that down? Where would you start? I reckon the mean streets I think you got to talk to somebody You got to her back door
Starting point is 00:14:51 I mean there's no one There's an abnormal sense to it That's not going to be hanging in the No no no That's going to be either made by someone With tiny hands I don't know It's just something right
Starting point is 00:15:02 And does the hat match the dress Is that what's going to? Yeah the flower and the dress Is great And the collar The lace collar Doily colour Also I'm delighted
Starting point is 00:15:11 Oh You're delighted delighted. I've never seen more delight on a face. I'm delighted. My big cheeks. I'm so happy. I am very cute.
Starting point is 00:15:21 How old are you there? I would have been Tirona's communion. Oh God, I don't even know. How old are you in a community? Is it like seven or eight? A communion and I think you're eight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:29 And my sister's four years older than me. So I would have been four. But I loved my older sister and she hated me. That's the rules. Like I see like, you know like there's like sitcoms out now and it's like, I have two sisters open a candle shop. I'm like, if I fucking ask my sister, I was open a candle shop.
Starting point is 00:15:44 She'd be like, fuck off. Like, we're not... I can set you on fire. Oh my God. Like, we're not that vibe. We are fascinated by sister politics because we don't have sisters. Oh, you do not have sisters?
Starting point is 00:15:53 No, I've got three brothers. I've got one brother. I remember that fish. Yeah, yeah. Your mom is so sisters. People project that sisters... I always wanted a sister. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:02 It's tough. You got a sister, but then you talk to people with sisters and they're like... You don't want sister. But it's the age gap. You got to go under four years. You got to go, in my opinion,
Starting point is 00:16:11 two to three years. Not necessarily. I know people with a slow twins and they still fight in each other. My God. Well, up and down. Well, my dad had, my dad went on and remarried a young one
Starting point is 00:16:21 and has shitloads kids now. So I've got loads of half siblings. Loads and loads. And my youngest sister is eight now. Wow. Wow, he's still going. Jeez. Very generous lover.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Terrible father. Very generous lover. That's a very forgiving phrase. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I guess now being that age, it's kind of cool treat that, yeah, yeah, I'm like a cool aunt or whatever almost. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Me and T. Now, I mean, I love her. Now we're best friends. But when you were kids. But when we were kids, I mean, all I want to do is hang out with her. All I, and like, my mom used to force her to play with me. And I loved, I loved Barbies. And Tirona would get the Barbie and move it.
Starting point is 00:16:59 And I'm like, are you not going to like talk? And she's like, I'm playing in my mind. Isn't that all siblings? He kind of doesn't matter if it's brothers. I mean, I've got a younger brother and I was awful to him. you. Oh God, he always wanted to play. He would just come and sit next to me in the hope that I would acknowledge him. And I would always just refuse to acknowledge him. And he had a secret hideout at the front of the garden, which was just a bush, which my mom had hollowed out and then he hung stuff on
Starting point is 00:17:26 there. And you could see him in it. But we were never allowed to say, because it was secret. Right. And I'd be like, I can see you. And my mom would like, don't tell him you can see him. I can see you. It's just pissing on his chips every day. I know. But obviously I love him now. Yeah, Of course. Yeah, I love my siblings as well now. But yeah, so I was just so delighted to hang out with Tiernan. And then it's so funny. And that's a big day for her. That's a big day in Ireland. Oh, my God. The communion. Are you fucking kidding? That's a big day. Especially
Starting point is 00:17:51 for young parents when it's like, basically they're like, to my mom, you're a fucking whore. You got pregnant too young. Mom's like, I'm going to show you. I'm going to rock up with their shoulder blades. She's going to have a fucking flowery dress, a handmade hat. You get ready. Like, yeah, yeah. It was like, you'd something to prove. Yeah, yeah. You know, because she got pregnant so young. How young? How young? She was 19. She was 19.
Starting point is 00:18:09 and she had my sister, which back then was, I mean, just so, like, and she was out of wedlock. Oh, scandal. Terrible.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Terrible. She got married in a powdered blue dress, bless her. Oh, you're poor mom. That's terrible. She loves clothes.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Like, she's opposite of me. Like, she loves getting dolled up. She loves matching. She's only 58. Like, she's gorgeous. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:18:29 yeah. She's gorgeous. And, yeah. So I was just, yeah, there was a big day, big day at the christening. So,
Starting point is 00:18:35 or at the communion. But after your communion on the Monday, and you go into school and you get your portrait done. And because we had no money and my mom wanted professional photos, she asked Tierna's teacher could I go in the photo in my dress?
Starting point is 00:18:49 And Tiern, I was like, oh, my God. And I was like, yes. Oh, so you've got to wear the dress two big days. So what did you go into your school? Into the classroom. Now, we were in the same school, but I was, oh yeah, I would have been, oh yeah, you're right. I would have been younger.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Oh, I was just in junior infants maybe when she was in first class, yeah. And then you went in. mailed you in Yeah, I wasn't in a wheelchair Why isn't in a wheelchair? I walked in I went in and we got the photograph
Starting point is 00:19:16 and I'm sitting like this in the same face that I did and turn it's like Oh, she didn't want you there She absolutely didn't want me there I don't have any photographs with her even now I want to see that photograph as well Yeah, yeah I gotta get my mom to send it on
Starting point is 00:19:28 And why have you zoomed in on this cute little fist Because just to show how delighted I am I'm literally Because I do that now I hold my thumbs when I walk as well I do that. I do that. And my granddad used to do it. It's weird, isn't it? Yeah, I close my fifth. Or even when I'm angry or something like that I do this and my, everyone always mocks me about it. But I'm like, it's just my expressive way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:50 In Ireland, you're not allowed to be too big. So I would just hold onto my thumb out. You're not even allowed a thumb out. You know, no, no, no. Don't, who the fuck do you think you are? I just love it. I love the little zoom in on the chubby little fist. I think it's so funny. I'm just like, yes. Oh, snap. What is it? It's like, all these Catholic rituals, because I, I, I, I, I, I, you know, the Spanish mum,
Starting point is 00:20:09 obviously I have the Holy Communion and everything. And when you look back on them, you're like, they're completely bananas. Bunkers. Aren't they? Yeah, yeah, bonkers. Like I have a picture of me in my Holy Communion. And I've had a veil.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I'm not joking. Like a wedding dress. I'm not joking. Is it a wedding? Let's unpack. It's your first wedding to God. It's your first promise to God. And it's a wedding dress, essentially. Essentially, it's a mini wedding dress.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Yeah. It's your first promise to God. With a veil. Mine had a veil. That's a bit rogue. Really? I never seen anybody else. would have been. Is that more of a Spanish thing? Not even in Ireland? No. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Not even in Ireland. Why have I never seen these pictures? I've got them. I can bring them out. I can bring them out. I mean, there needs to be a whole. That's another news for God's Holy Communion. Holy Communion. Gloves. I had gloves. I had silk gloves. I had silk gloves. They were a part of the whole thing. You don't have to have them, but you can have them. You can have them. They put them on. It's all to do with like purity and like virginity. Well, you're a child. I hope so one would hope. Yeah, yeah. One would hope. That would be kind of in it. Yeah. Yeah. It's a big deal. Are you what you're not Catholic? No. No, no, no, no. And I've never been to a Holy Communion.
Starting point is 00:21:10 They're great crack. Lovely sandwiches. That's what I'm so jealous of. There's a big party afterwards. The party's great religions. I'm like, I don't know about all the rules, but can I come to the parties? Yeah, you can come to, even come into the church if you want. It's great crack.
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Starting point is 00:23:25 I was going to say, he's got his buddies on. And I was like, Simon, are you not going down to Skibri? And he's like, I think that it's just normal swimwear. I don't understand what the problem. of us. Why not? And I was like, Simon, please put on normal. Please just put on anything else. Like, just something. And he's like, nah, if someone has a problem with me wearing my speed
Starting point is 00:23:41 this, I don't understand. It's Christmas Day. I'm dumping in the water and going to enjoy myself. And he walks there, he loves. He does look at his face. Yeah, he looks great. He does look good in this. Yeah, yeah. He's gorgeous. Where did you and him meet? I met him when you believe, I, so I was single for seven years, seven fucking years. And I went on my last day. I was
Starting point is 00:24:01 online the whole time, online dating. I was great at that. fucking crash bandicoot next level beat the boss I was on it all the day You made your stats I was there I was there And then I remember the last day First day I went on was with this Flemish guy Disgusting way to describe any language
Starting point is 00:24:17 Flemish And he was gorgeous but he was tick his shit Oh my God I cannot tell you just you know when you're just like That's an unfortunate combination I just can't Good looking? Beautiful Okay fine
Starting point is 00:24:26 Beautiful Just don't speak Yeah yeah no no but it's not I don't think it's even that night I was getting drier and drier as he spoke I was like I can't with you right So I left and I was like My comedy career was starting to take off
Starting point is 00:24:39 The opera house was coming up And I was like you know what I'm just not going to do this anymore Like I'm not going to pour myself into trying to find a romantic partner Because I'm very lucky Like I've got beautiful people in my life I have a great life Like I was like maybe it's just not going to happen this time
Starting point is 00:24:52 And that's grand Yeah yeah yeah yeah So I deleted everything 10 days later In the comedy club in Barcelona Where I perform all the time 10pm on a Sunday night which is the graveyard ship for comedy.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I just had five minutes I wanted to try out bullshit material and Simon was in the third row and there was only about 12 people in the audience and so what? Like did he come up to you afterwards? No I was on stage and I was doing a bit I didn't make it into the show. I hate telling it to comedians because I'm like it was just material and I was saying
Starting point is 00:25:20 we should get a WhatsApp group as women like decide an age and then just stop giving blow jobs because men don't know how our bodies work right so I'm like we'll just say 27 if we all agree in silence And we just tell them They'd be like, okay
Starting point is 00:25:35 Okay, they can't do it So I was doing this And all the girls were giggling And all the men were looking at me And then Simon was laughing And I heard this big deep laugh And I was like oh And then I looked at him
Starting point is 00:25:44 And he changes If you saw him now he's got a big beard He had a big blonde Handled Bar mustache And this blonde quiff And typical African And I was looking at him And I was like
Starting point is 00:25:52 Who is this man And he really intrigued me So then I left I'd go to another show Because I wanted to try it out A few times in the night And I just said to my friend Darren Will you ask that blonde fella
Starting point is 00:26:01 if he's single. And Darren just waited to the end of the show. I meant in crowdwork. And he's like, oh, you're at my collar. And then he just wrote to me. And then we didn't see each other
Starting point is 00:26:13 for months and months and months because he went to America and I started my first little tour. And then he came back in October. He was in the Irish pub during the rugby season. And a girl, Val Brasnan, was like, we have an extra ticket
Starting point is 00:26:24 to go see this comedian doing our first hour. My first I might have done 16 minutes. And he's like, if you want to come. And then it was me. And I'm not trying to lick my own nipples. but I fucking crushed it and I knew he'd text me
Starting point is 00:26:35 I knew he would because I was on fire Joe those nights you come off and you're like I'm the best in the world it was so good and then he texted me
Starting point is 00:26:42 the next day he was like do you want to do some yoga together or something and I was like do you want it yeah I'll do you
Starting point is 00:26:48 I'll just some down and down and you get him and then he went to yoga and he was so into it that I almost got the ick that is that a yoga body there
Starting point is 00:27:00 like he's But he's water polar and rugby. He's just South African. He's just typical, does, did everything. They did all of it, aren't they? All of it. And they're only hobbies. They're always brying something.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Yeah, meat. And yeah, he's just a tank. What was he doing? So he lives in Barcelona? He lives in Barcelona. What took him there? He was just trying to get a European passport. So he studied, he studied as an architect and he studied in Delphin, Holland.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And then he came over to Spain. And then one of his friends was like, oh, I can, like, marry you. And then, you know what I mean, do that. So it was just all, he was just trying to kind of, he was just hustling. And what took you there? as well. Well, I was in Australia and then met an Italian man and then fell in love. I was 21, so
Starting point is 00:27:37 like, you know that love. My God, it's the most beautiful love. So, and then I moved italy for him, for that lasted 20 minutes. And then I stayed, but because in school, I struggled all through school. Like, I'm not academic at all. Right. Like, I've all the learning difficulties when I was in special classes and I had
Starting point is 00:27:52 really embarrassing. I hated it. But then when I got Italy, I was picking up the language really fast. Right. And I was like, well, I obviously can learn something. So I thought, because I always thought myself I didn't know what I was going to be like comedy wasn't in my life. Did you always know you were going to not stay in Ireland? Did you have a sense that you were going to just live internationally or no never it was my sister everyone thought because I'm a real homebird like I love my mom so everyone thought I would stay but then because I was waitressing and
Starting point is 00:28:15 bartending I was like I might as well go and do that somewhere else like yeah I couldn't get into third level education and then I was in Italy and I learnt the language and Spanish yeah Spanish that's why I moved to Barcelona because I got to 30 I had well I got to 29 and I had Italian in the bag, I was there for seven years and I was like, this is before AI, so it's like maybe if I got another language, like two languages would be like having a degree so I could go work in like a corporate job
Starting point is 00:28:39 because I was always terrified of getting, like I love bar work but I was like just the idea of opening and closing every day like it's really exhausting working in a bar so I was like I don't know if I want to do this my whole life so I was always conscious of like trying to find a career trying to find a career. So I was like I'll go to Spain and learn Spanish
Starting point is 00:28:54 and then I started comedy when I got to Barcelona which I was completely left field. I mean that's because when I Think of places to build a comedy career But Spain is not No, zero My family don't really know what I do No, no, no, no, they don't even
Starting point is 00:29:10 They don't even a word for it Like they don't even have like a, it's like a monologol In Italian, not in Spanish, sorry How did you start doing it then? Well, I was doing online So I was doing online like posts and stuff Not reals didn't exist at the time But I do stories every morning
Starting point is 00:29:22 But I wasn't necessarily trying to be funny I was just chatting Because what I found when Instagram Because remember Instagram was just photos yeah yeah and I loved that because I like photography not I don't take photos but I like looking at nice things yeah and then I remember when bloggers came out in Ireland it was huge in an influencing of vlogging and I remember seeing these women and just feeling compelled to like I was like this isn't real like I remember looking at them and being like oh fuck off are we not already under enough pressure from fucking the beauty industry but other women being like I wake up and I have I tune on an avocado and I spit it out and then I have one almond scene and you're like I'm going to actually
Starting point is 00:30:03 I just I honestly I was like no I refuse this It's not it's not authentic It's bullshit It's not anyone's life Oh my God I just And also we're not people We are cyclical people
Starting point is 00:30:16 We're cycles We're like nature We're not supposed to do the same thing Everything you're supposed This thing of I get up every morning And I take off my mind this And that's not what we're That's not what we are
Starting point is 00:30:24 Look at our menstrual cycles We're supposed to honour the cycle Of what our body is going through like and it's much more beneficial for our creativity and our minds and our souls if we do honor our cycles but no in this world
Starting point is 00:30:36 everyone every day perfect same thing cottage cheese protein milkshakes fucking oh I just so you were like I need to make my own yeah so I just start chatting
Starting point is 00:30:45 and again very like like because it's all well and good now lads because I have like 600 thousand followers but trust me when you've got 300 followers you're an asshole you know what I mean like everyone was like what the fuck are you doing
Starting point is 00:30:56 and my sister was like I'm not talking to you anymore like no Was it, it was just, I just, I'm just doing this. It was just, and you should hear me like, I look back, and I'd have my accent, I was like this, and that's how I used to be talking, because I'd be from cork, like, and I'd even look back, it's so funny.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Yeah. So I just grew and grew. It just grew and grew, and grew. And I would call myself, like, the anti-blogger, and it just grew and grew, again, with no real direction in it, just a space. Because I was in Italy, too, and I missed the crack. I missed fun.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Yeah. Because the Italians are amazing, but they're not fun. They're not, they're not very fun. They're not. So I was kind of like I missed that kind of banter And I was working in fashion at the time So I was just surrounded by This idea of what women should be
Starting point is 00:31:32 And how they should present themselves And it used to infuriate me Because I know I'm a beautiful one I know I'm an intelligent woman I'm like just because I don't fit into what you're selling Because you know he's bullocks And you're like I'm just not drinking the Kool-Aid I'm not drinking it
Starting point is 00:31:43 And I was so young And I knew there was women my age That were like getting The same Yeah but they were suffering Because they didn't There was no one saying hey it's grand You can also just be yourself
Starting point is 00:31:54 You can blow this off, yeah, and do something else. You know what I mean? Like, you don't have to get involved, so... And now everyone's doing that. Like, it feels like that is what most reels are, like, lampooning that ideal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. But, like, that's what you started doing.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Yeah, yeah, started doing it ages ago. And when did the stand-up come into that? So I'm in Barcelona, COVID hits, and I'm working on the bears, anyway, as always. And a fella writes to me, Mike Rice, incredible comedian based here as well. And he's, like, trying to come on my podcast, just as a guest
Starting point is 00:32:24 and I said yeah grand now I'd never done stand up and he called me a comedian and I was thinking I said I'm not a comedian he said you're not a standup
Starting point is 00:32:31 but you're making content like you are a comedian I said well I loved it and I really fancied him right I was really into him and I was like oh my god now he's like my best friend
Starting point is 00:32:42 now nothing ever happened just to be clear but I really fancied him so I was kind of like hanging out with him and like trying my arm we went to an open night together because I was going to watch him tiny room about 14 15 people
Starting point is 00:32:52 and just so happened to be an Italian work party. So he's like, why don't you go and do it in Italian? And I was like, yeah, yeah, again, just trying to impress him. So I took a shot of whiskey. I got up and I just said an Italian, I'm really into him. So if you could just get in bored here and have, just laugh and make it sound as if I'm crushing. They were everything kidding.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And it worked. I got off and everyone was like, oh my God, you crush. And I was like, yeah, I crushed. And I was like, yeah, I crushed. Okay, what about this picture? You look like you've hurt your knee. Hurt your knees. I love the Gucci's with you.
Starting point is 00:33:28 So, I know, the Gucci. So, I know, the Gucci. So, is this. This is my best friend, Michele, who's actually in London. I haven't seen him in so long, and he just got here yesterday for the shows. I'm really excited. He looks kind of Italian. He is Italian.
Starting point is 00:33:39 He's from Verona. Yeah, he's from Verona. So he works in Gucci. So I was cursed. This is an interesting story. I think I was cursed. Okay. Right?
Starting point is 00:33:49 So I had a friend, a model, who was from. Burkino Faso, I don't know how to say it. Burkina Faso, yeah. Yeah, is that, right? Burkino Faso and Capavoreo, like Ivory, I don't know. I don't know the words in, because I learned them in... Yeah, okay. Are these places? Yeah, they're in Africa, right?
Starting point is 00:34:05 Uh-huh. So I was friends with her, and I was seeing this guy, and she ended up sleeping with him, right? And we fell out, and I was like, that's so bad, I can't believe you would do that. Like, I hadn't even slept with him. And I was like, so bad, and we had this massive falling out, and she was always trying to get back about and I was like, whatever. So she goes home to her mom and she was like, I told my mom about you and she's really upset
Starting point is 00:34:28 about what happened, right? And I know her mom does witchy stuff, right? So in her version of events, you're the bad guy? She thinks I should have forgiven her. And I found it very difficult to forgive her, which is on me, but I just did. I just found it very very... No, that feels like a betrayal. It was definitely a betrayal, but I was just, it wasn't
Starting point is 00:34:44 even about him, but I was like... That's just shit. It's a friendship. And you know what is that? Like, she's a fucking model. You could write anyone. Give me your man. Like, do you know what I? I'm like, I have to work my arse off to get an Italian fella to even look in my direction. Your one just walks in and everyone's just like, you know. He's full-blown Jolene.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Yeah, why did you have to? Yeah, great song. Great song. And you lived it. Yeah, I fucking lived through me in Dally. Less tits. So then she tells me about that and I'm like, whatever. And I said, look, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I'm not holding an antenna thing. I just don't want to hang around. I don't trust it, you know. So I'm out running. I run the say, I love running. I'm a jogger. So when you're on this run, you know that the witchy mum is on you. Yeah, I knew this.
Starting point is 00:35:22 this has happened and I was like whatever it's grand right so I'm running around I run every day and I run the same route every day for any serial killers very easy to find so I'm running it's like the one thing they tell you not to do and I'm like I'm just like routine so I'm running on this gravel path and I swear to God I felt someone push me right and I fall and my knee birth and I was running like my my running pace is like seven minute a kilometer like I'm not a fast runner I'm a long run I'm long distance runner my long distance runner my My knee burst open in a way. I can't even tell you, right?
Starting point is 00:35:56 I couldn't even get up. So I turned around, there was no one there. Oh, wow. It was so... It does look bad. It was so bad. It was just like all cut to every. It was so, so random, right?
Starting point is 00:36:06 So I ring Macalian, I was like, I'm after really hurting myself, like, on this gravel. I was like, I felt like someone, but I promise you, I sound mental, I felt hands on my back. But where did you get that... So how did you conclude it was her? She voodooed you. I think she voodooed me. She voodooed you. I swear to God, I think
Starting point is 00:36:24 Because I believe in all that stuff When did you put these two things together in your head? Well, because then I went So I got up, I went home and I cleaned it And then I went down to the pub Because it was a match on And then it was really hurting me And it felt really hot
Starting point is 00:36:35 But I had never really dealt with I've never, thank touch wood Never really been injured, so to speak So I was like, is it like bar whatever? Then I go to bed I had a few pines in me And then I went to bed And I woke up and my knee was swollen
Starting point is 00:36:47 Roasting Oh, really And I rang me a best friend Cammy who's a doctor Well trainee doctor at that time. And I rang and I was like, Kamiya, I was like, come here,
Starting point is 00:36:55 my knee, my genocchio. I was like, it's fucked. Like, I can't even walk. So she came and got me. Her dad has a surge or a GP office. And I went in and he was like, I have never seen an infection like this. What?
Starting point is 00:37:06 Wow. He was like, I've never seen something so infected so quickly. And then I, in that moment I was like, I'd been cursed. Not only, not only did you get pushed over. But then she infected your
Starting point is 00:37:22 I honestly, but there was no one pushed me but I swear to God. hands on your back. I felt hands on my back and then the infection and then I had to go for 20... You've been fucking voodied. You got voodied bad, man.
Starting point is 00:37:32 26 days in and out every single day to the surgery to get it dressed. Cleaned. Because it was so... It was like this. I have a big mad scare.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Wait, wait, what did you fucking land on? Gravel. Oh, Jesus. Let me see. It's not that bad, but like it's like a proper look. But you still got it?
Starting point is 00:37:49 Yeah. Gravel, just gravel. But it was so... And lads, I've run and I'm... But if you have that sensation of like, like, I know what happened. You know, as a woman you fucking know as well.
Starting point is 00:37:59 You know. I even knew she rode him. The next day, he had dropped her home and the next day met up with her and she's being weird and in my mind I was like, because my, I come from a family of that kind of carry on.
Starting point is 00:38:10 So I was like, is it my trauma? But in my mind, I was like, she fucked him. Do you just know? Yes. She said she didn't fuck him. She said she didn't and then he told me that they did.
Starting point is 00:38:19 And then she was pissed off with you for not forgiving her. So wait a second, she said to you, oh my God, so not only did she guess like you. Yeah. She cursed you and she got to let you. She cursed me,
Starting point is 00:38:27 yeah. And then she wonders why you're not friends. I know, I know. Did you ever reconcile with her? No. I was going
Starting point is 00:38:32 And now we're best friends. No, no, no, but I want closure. You talk about cycles. No, no, no. I want my closure. Yeah, fair, fair. No, but I knew it was so fucking gnarly.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Oh, I like it that you know, you know, you know. But another time it happened to me as well, I must have a garden angel. I was walking home from the pub in the city where I'm from and there was like an, it was like a well-lit area where I knew I could go to my friends and there was like a dark kind of alley and I had it over the strap bag
Starting point is 00:38:58 and I was like I'm gonna lose going to go out in the shortcut and I felt someone pulling my bag back and there was no one there. What? Yeah yeah and then I walked I was like I'll just go the other way and then someone got attacked
Starting point is 00:39:07 down the alley the same night Oh fuck You love all this I love it I love it I can see your eyes and let up
Starting point is 00:39:15 I love it I love it too I believe in it I'm fully available to believe in it more than I'm available to believe the other things I'm supposed to believe
Starting point is 00:39:21 Okay but I just want to establish what are we believing in here just some angels higher powers, different energies. Maximus Woo-woo. Yeah. Okay. Just that it's like, okay, we've got five senses,
Starting point is 00:39:32 but I'm like, I feel as women, I cannot. Because I think this is what the beauty industry and this, we're all perfect. I'm like, we're denying ourselves what we are, which is that intuition. Which is? Yeah, that intuition. Like my sister's a mom now.
Starting point is 00:39:44 It's fucking credible. Yeah. My mom would bring me lads and be like, are you okay? And I'm like, and I'll just start crying. And I'm like, well, this thing happened. She's like, yeah, I could just feel it. And I'm 34. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:53 I'm not even her babbo anymore. You know it. There are some friends where she, like my friend Karen, I'll be, I'll ring her and she'll go, I was just thinking of you. Oh, that happens all the time. Yeah, but we ignore it. But I think it's developed in us even more because if you think about our main predator is men, the thing that kills us as men. And we live with them. Yeah. So I reckon our, and we're not physically bigger. So I reckon our intuition is something that's protected us all this time. What you mean in terms of like our instinct? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Our instinct, our intuition. Just that feeling. And I reckon in this world we live in now, we're. with beauty and this and this, where they're trying to pull us away from my, and the phones, it's like, you lose that.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Yeah. Whereas I, like, sit with stuff all the time. Like, for me, if it's not a hell yes, it's a no. Even with offers and gigs, if I'm like, do you get an offer and you're like, and it's like a lot of money and you're like, yeah, yeah, I don't. But there's something about it. I'll always just be like, you know what, I'll pass.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Unless I'm like, fuck yeah, let's do it. I feel I'm like, not. Again, you see, this must be very liberating to know that. So liberating. Yeah. Very stressful for my managers. Tell us exactly why you don't want to do this. And you're also programmed to be so ambitious
Starting point is 00:41:01 and so like driven. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just as women, it's like you've got to be ambitious. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're like, oh, maybe I'll really know how I feel about stuff. Longevity. For me, it's longevity. Like, it doesn't have to be the richest or the most insane.
Starting point is 00:41:14 I just want to keep doing it. I want to keep being a comic. So I don't need to rush into every English-speaking territory and take over the world. I just need to build my people, you know what I mean? Very well. Yeah. Very well.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Yeah. So whatever your strategy is, it's working. It's working. But Simon at the beginning, Todd, I was mentored. And now he just trusts me. Really? No, we shouldn't go there and he's like, oh, I don't know why, but I believe you. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Yeah. Yeah, I would follow you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like I'm learning a lot of this podcast. Oh, a lot. Oh, a lot. Sometimes the best gifts aren't gifts at all. They're experiencing.
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Starting point is 00:42:53 that you talked about Yes that's actually the story I was going to tell She's so cute She was I come from Yeah, it's my mummy's mom I come from women
Starting point is 00:43:01 Like I come from a fucking matriac Like Ireland is a matriarchal Like Ireland is a matriarchal Yeah yeah yeah The woman is the Like I remember when I was a waitressing And you go to the table Like and the mother would be there
Starting point is 00:43:12 And she'd be like He'll have half roast dinner now And like A glass of cordial You know and then I'm like Growing men like You know what I mean But the I like women in Ireland
Starting point is 00:43:22 They can't do anything. They can't do anything. Like, what do these men do in their wives' time? Yeah, yeah. They just don't, they die. They die. They die. They have to die.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Within, like, nine months, they die. It's incredible. But, like, my granny was an absolute. She was, like, the first woman in her parish everywhere trousers. Oh, wow. Amazing. Like, she was just, yeah, yeah. And she was like, I just need to ride my bike.
Starting point is 00:43:41 She's from the north, like. And, like, they were coming back. Even riding a bike in some communities is radical. Yeah, yeah. I remember where my mom went home one time and there was a distant relation that was, you know, coming off the rails, maybe. And they were like, I saw Brenda the other week and she was riding a bike.
Starting point is 00:43:57 I know. Jeez, guys, everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, that's exactly what it's like. It's like, like, she's literally being rid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's just riding, she's actually on a bicycle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Oh, it's crazy. Oh, no, but like back then as well, like my granny was born, I mean, she was 97. I mean, I can't even do the math, sorry. You couldn't get a job, could you? No, no, no, if you were married. No, no, she wouldn't do, like, she couldn't do, like her, so her, so her mummy died when she was really young,
Starting point is 00:44:21 so she took care of all her siblings. She ended up out living them all. And then she married my granddad and she had nine sons and a daughter. And the whole thing back then, that was during the troubles in Ireland. And she had nine sons. And this is a very proud thing.
Starting point is 00:44:34 And none of them joined the IRA, which back then was like to live there and not have a boy that joined the Republican army. Like, you know what I mean? It was a huge success. So they all are good men. And she's just such a like, I've never,
Starting point is 00:44:49 she's a very religious woman, but she never shuts it down your throat. she was all she just everything good that could come from worshipping and following a certain discipline she gave to the world yeah I mean she just a hard line value
Starting point is 00:45:01 yeah just never talk shit never complained never I just if I'm half the woman she is she was incredible what an amazing it's incredible privilege to have a woman like that in your life
Starting point is 00:45:14 oh I'm getting goosebumps but thinking about her I just never and for her to be to live that long she must have been quite old when your mum was born right she was yeah my mom was the last one so she was in her 40s
Starting point is 00:45:23 my mummy was born because I had nine boys and then she got a girl right at the end no she had a girl in the middle maybe eight or nine sorry I could be getting that wrong but yeah eight or nine but then my mum had her baby
Starting point is 00:45:32 so obviously my mum got pregnant young and hadn't been married and for her like as a Catholic woman that was kind of but like my mum and her baby and my mum said that my granny came down to cork because they're from the north
Starting point is 00:45:43 and just took care of my mummy because like you know you need your mum yeah of family when you have kids and she came down and she did everything for and made sure she would do everything for and made sure she would
Starting point is 00:45:51 was set up and I was just she was just so beautiful and I remember one time when I was about 14 I started thinking about dying and I started getting really scared because you know what? Yeah I remember crying and crying and just getting so overwhelmed and I went down to her and she was sitting she happened to be visiting us. I got
Starting point is 00:46:09 very lucky because because she would visit us I actually got a lot of quality time with her. Yeah. Because there's like I mean there's like 75 of us it's like an insane amount of cousin. So to get someone on one time in a family that big yeah and she came down I came downstairs and I was crying, crying. It's like, what's wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:46:23 And I was just so scared of dying. And she was like, oh, just don't worry. Just pray. And she's like, every time you smell your roses, you know, it's the Holy Mary. And there's all these little things. And now, you know, I don't have that kind of faith. No, but comfort's comfort.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Beautiful. I mean, like absolutely. And then she got Alzheimer's. So grounded. So faithful. And then she got Alzheimer's and she was hilarious. You know, so people get Alzheimer's and get quite angry and aggressive. She was so funny.
Starting point is 00:46:48 So funny. Like we were sitting there. My mom has a new. a new husband, Sean, my stepdad who's lovely. And we were sitting there having dinner or whatever and Sean got up from the table and she's like, who is that man?
Starting point is 00:47:03 She's just lovely. Oh, she was just... And you were with her when she died? I got to be with her, yeah, I got to be with her. The night, no, the night, so she died after we left but I got to spend the last night with her. And like... That's so profound that you'd had all those chats when you were little about death. Yeah, and then I got to be there. And then you were with her when she died. Yeah, yeah. I just, or she was just
Starting point is 00:47:19 and it was just this light There's a word in Italian Tenue, Lucci Theroy, which is like candlelight, you know, that lovely relaxing way the opposite of what we do on stage or this, you know, and it was that, that's what I felt like. And obviously she would, like, I mean, her Brett was stinking and everything in her hair, but her hair was over being soft and I was rubbing her hair and, oh, it was just love.
Starting point is 00:47:39 It was such a privilege. I don't know why. It just felt like such a privilege. It used a privilege to be with someone that you love in their last hours on the park on the earth. And I was just like, when you get up there, please find me a fella. She did?
Starting point is 00:47:52 She bloody did. She bloody did. I was like when you got a seven years single like I was like please granny she was just so cute lads I can't even tell you she was just so and like she would make all the biscuits like she would go down south
Starting point is 00:48:04 because it was all rations back then during the troubles and she would go down off the border because you wouldn't be able to get clothes or anything so she'd go down and put on all the clothes and go up and on the train and yeah she was just oh she was so unlike then another time they'll come back from Mass
Starting point is 00:48:16 and the British Army stopped them and this is years ago, of course, I know things have changed and they were like, they weren't the army, they were like the kind of like the rebel, the rebel, like the gangsters, like the British kind of like tough guys, whatever. What? You mean like the, what, the union is? Yeah, yeah, the UNYS, yeah. So, you know, sometimes I get muddled up with the words and I'm always afraid of coming across like I'm telling lies. So that's why I'm always like, I don't want to, because
Starting point is 00:48:43 I always get mixed up with what the words are. But yeah, basically the UVF, the unionists, whatever. So they stopped it and they, they lit my granddad's jacket on fire. and my granny chocolate jacket and they were wearing ballet clavas and she walked straight up to them because they would have been they grew up with her in the same estate and she was like, take off your belly clava
Starting point is 00:48:59 take off your belly clava and look me in the eyes. Good for her, oh man. She was the powerhouse. And also all those men they would cower if a maturedly and she was tall as well
Starting point is 00:49:12 like five foot eight but back then tall woman like you know what I mean but she was just she was very funny I remember as well when I was about 17
Starting point is 00:49:19 she was like she was minding us I don't know what my mum was and she came into me she's like you're never going to make it in life you use far too much toilet paper so funny
Starting point is 00:49:31 that's funny that's so weird there's almost like a generation that thinks that you use too much toilet paper like my grandmother was this because why are you using
Starting point is 00:49:39 more than two squares because we're not in the troubles granny okay I can use more I can use more we've got one last picture who's this cutie pie So this is Owen
Starting point is 00:49:51 So this is my sister's baba So this is the Next to What does that say? Nanny Oh sorry Oh probably says Nanny Yeah probably my mom
Starting point is 00:50:01 That would be my mum His Nanny So this is your little nephew So this is my nephew Yeah this is one of the photos I was like I don't even know what to send But I So Owen was born
Starting point is 00:50:09 On February 25th He's 18 months old And I don't know He just changed our whole lives He's just an absolute miracle I've never ever had I don't think I can love anything more than I love Owen.
Starting point is 00:50:22 It hurts my heart. Everything he does, I'm just like, oh my God. He's amazing. He's absolute and he's so funny and he's so lovely. How often do you get to see him? Not as often I would like to. But I reckon we have, I'd say maybe three times a year. But the first time I was touring and I was in Cork and Tieran and my sister was nine months pregnant
Starting point is 00:50:42 and I went through security and I got a phone call and I turned his in labour. And I was like, oh no. Did she go back? No, well, I rang my mom and I was like, should I go? go back and my mum's like do you know what Kyla the first month it's actually better
Starting point is 00:50:54 if you come back later like unless you want to see her but she's not going to need you now because like it'll just be she'll be at home and she'll be healing you're in a bubble so I was like okay okay
Starting point is 00:51:03 so it broke my hair and I did have to tour so I'll tour or whatever so I finished my tour and about six weeks later I got they live in the back hours of nowhere in Balacotton and I got a plane
Starting point is 00:51:13 and I arrived out midnight Chinatlected me we got back to the house about two o'clock one o'clock I peek in and I see this tiny human and I know it sounds
Starting point is 00:51:22 really basic but I was like oh my God like you're my sister I just can't I'm like this is like your baby it was the same
Starting point is 00:51:29 when my granny Mona when she was dying my mom was at me in the room and I know that my granny is my mom's mom but it was breaking
Starting point is 00:51:35 my hair because I was like oh my god this is your mom like and your mom like I was like I can't believe
Starting point is 00:51:40 this is your mom like it was just I just wanted to love her I was like I'm sorry yeah yeah like you said about being basic
Starting point is 00:51:46 but it is yeah it's amazing more than it's a bit of It's amazing. It's like America. And especially, going through those, generational, all those women together in one room.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Honestly, it's just like, so there's we own and I was like, oh my God, so I like start crying. Because I'm like, I'm at a mental state where like, if I got pregnant now, I think I would still be like, I think MTV want to make a documentary about teen mom. Like I'm like not like there at all. So it was just so. So then I go to bed and I was like, I've got to see us in the morning. So then six o'clock in the morning, the door swings open and I jump up and I was like, oh my God, tea. And she was like, you need to.
Starting point is 00:52:19 to take Owen, I got to bring Brendan to hospital. And I was like, what? So she has this like newborn, right? So like, apart from my dad's kids, I hadn't really been around like a tiny, tiny baby. Yeah, yeah. So she puts him in the bed. And I'm like, and I'm like, Tierna. And she's like, so Brendan's gallstones had to be removed.
Starting point is 00:52:35 That was the thing. So she was like, I have to go. And they live really far away. And I was like, what will I do? And she was like, Google it. Fair. And I was like, oh. We're living in an age where you can look that show up.
Starting point is 00:52:44 So then she leaves and I'm in the double bed. And Owen is there. I just was looking at him and I was like oh my god like I'm sure you had it about your own kids I mean yeah you're like look at your nose yeah teeth or teeth as if
Starting point is 00:52:58 yeah look at your teeth look at your teeth look at your teeth yeah everything was like and he smelled oh they smell amazing yeah yeah yeah oh my god just a fleshy
Starting point is 00:53:08 a fleshy thing that came out of flesh and then it seems like every time you know you breathe in and out between the and out it was like oh my god he's not breathing I couldn't stop
Starting point is 00:53:19 I was like, is he breathing? I don't think he's... I was, it was the best day. So I was like, right, I ran my mom and I was like, tear out, I was like, can you come out? And she's like, I have to work. And I was like, well, I have Owen. And she was like, you'll be fine, Kyla.
Starting point is 00:53:29 And I am very maternal. Like, I'm fine, but, like, holding him and touching him and stuff. But you just got to hang out with him all day. Yeah, you can't leave him anywhere. So I was going to toilet and putting him in the thing. And then I was doing yoga and I put him up in the trick track, 3000, this fucking thing I bought him. I don't even know what it's called.
Starting point is 00:53:43 it's like a high chair that you adjust as he gets older and I just spent all day just minding him and burping him and even when he burp up and I was like everything he'd done I was like you are the most incredible little boy and then... What a bonding day oh my God but I reckon so even now
Starting point is 00:53:59 he'll like he's not affectionate he loves his own space so like if you put him on his lack now like he doesn't like being up in your lap or like cuddling into like he likes it next year like he sit here now and listen to us talk but he wouldn't be up trying to like touch you and thing but with me he's super affectionate And I reckon it's because of that day.
Starting point is 00:54:15 I reckon they're like a bond with him or something. And now he's starting to talk. And like even that. Oh, my. That's great when they start gabbling. Oh, my. And his personality. Like he's your nanny.
Starting point is 00:54:25 There's some of that age. There was a kid on the train on the way here today. This dad came on the tube with his kid that sort of age. Toddlery, big baby, but not quite walking. Yeah, yeah. And he had a stick. You see all the kids now in the buggies with the devices. You don't see many kids with a stick.
Starting point is 00:54:41 He just had a stick And he was like looking at me And I was like A stick And he was like a stick And he was like a little Connection with a little person like that We just had a little facial chat
Starting point is 00:54:54 That's lovely It's so cute These are like extremely important moments It just puts things in perspective Doesn't it? Totally It keeps things the right sides Children always give perspectives
Starting point is 00:55:04 Yeah And the more you love them The more perspective you get Because you think Whatever happens As long as you're okay I'm going to be fine Oh totally
Starting point is 00:55:11 Like I look at Owen do anything And I just like Oh my God I would kill for you Yeah Yeah Like it's just overwhelming sensation Of like I just can't even imagine my I just he is
Starting point is 00:55:20 And obviously with Tiren as well as spot us So like watching her become a mother Wow Wow really Oh just incredible She's so good Like I always think like I ring my mom and I'm like
Starting point is 00:55:31 Or even when I was younger I'm like what time is that post office open Where's my white house And I'm like where am I going to get all this information Does it like click when you become on And like watching Tare I'm like Oh yeah it just happens You can just do it
Starting point is 00:55:40 Because these are the things in life that are actually real and that's why when we go back to social media and worrying about it and thinking about it how many likes you get it's not real
Starting point is 00:55:48 it's not real it's none of it is real it's only as important as the importance you give it so you focus on your stuff and the rest will follow do you know what I mean like it's just
Starting point is 00:55:58 and I see that in my own family the women around me I'm like I just need to keep showing up as my best self and then whatever the fuck happens after I'm in you know Christ man there's no wonder
Starting point is 00:56:06 there's a following you've created a community I'm actually in this is a call this is a call and I'm in Where do I sign up? I'm in.
Starting point is 00:56:17 There's an appetite for it for sure. That authentic, they're fibrillic is. And women in particular want that from the women that they love. And like, you know, you can see that with celebrity. Yeah. I feel like that is on the way in terms of what people want from. They're waking up.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Yeah. Working up. And I'm not going to look like this and I'm not going to wear that and I'm not going to think that. And I'm not going to measure my worth. on that. No, exactly. And it's so hard to do that
Starting point is 00:56:44 because it's like, obviously there's a multi-billion dollar industry telling you you're not good enough. But now I think, as you said, this little wave of people being like, hold on to fuck.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Yeah. And then that's the beauty of it. This has been great. I've loved it. It's been lovely. Thank you so much. Great pictures. Great.
Starting point is 00:57:06 And before we go, are you promoting a tour? So I am touring the U.S. UK gone rogue. It's selling really well. The only place where it's not selling is Lester. Lester. Lester. Lester. Lester's always tricky, man. Lester. Yeah, Lester. Please. And Southampton, I think, there's a few tickets left. And then I'm doing a bigger show
Starting point is 00:57:24 in Manchester in Salford. So that would be great if... Oh, the Lowry? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And where do people find info? Kyla Cobbler.com. Go and see it. Go and see. Can we come. Where are you doing in London? Soho, come. I'd love to come. Yeah. It's very fun show. It's very fun show. Tonight until Saturday.
Starting point is 00:57:41 And then I'm doing Let's Just Square Theatre. I'm doing Ali Pally in February. Come to Ali. That'll be crack. February. Amen. 20th. Amazing.

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