Memory Lane with Kerry Godliman and Jen Brister - S04 E34: Kyla Cobbler
Episode Date: November 19, 2025"I was cursed..." We have the utterly brilliant @kylacobblercomedy on the show this week.We talked about holy communion, siblings, hats, curses and loads loads more. Kyla is on tour now all over the... UK - https://kylacobbler.com/gone-rogue/ PLUS... Kerry and Jen chat about TRAITORS and Kerry's (computer) belly button fluff. JEN & KERRY STAND-UP TOURSKerry's 2025 tour is on sale now - https://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/kerry-godliman-tickets/artist/1866728Jen's 2025 tour is on sale now - https://www.jenbrister.co.uk/tour/PICS & MORE - https://www.instagram.com/memory_lane_podcast/A Dot Dot Dot Production produced by Joel PorterHosted by Jen Brister & Kerry Godliman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This is an issue I have right out the gate.
So I've been carrying my Mac around, not in a case in my bag,
and all the little belly buttons are full of shit.
And I can't put all the little doodars in the holes.
What's in there?
Just, I assume, bag fluff.
So I need to take it today to get it cleaned out and sorted.
But in this instance, I've tried sticking things in there.
What do you mean a hoover?
an actual
Yeah but surely you need a special
tiny hoover
This is we're talking about
A tiny hole
I use big hoovers
for little holes sometimes
Hello and welcome to
Memory Lane
I'm Jen Brister
And I'm Kerry Godleman
Each week we'll be taking a trip
Down Memory Lane
With our very special guest
As they bring in four photos
From their lives to talk about
To check out the photos
We'd be having a natter with them about
They're on the episode image
and you can also see them a little bit more clearly on our Instagram page.
So have a little look at Memory Lane Podcast.
Come on, we can all be nosy together.
I'm making some tough decisions.
Are you? What are they?
Well, I'm going to clear out my belly buttons.
Oh, yeah, fine. But you've got to get the hoover for that.
And I'm going to boundary myself. That's the other thing.
I've got to have boundaries. I've got to Brené Brown myself up.
What do you mean, boundary?
I've got to say no to things.
Oh, wow.
Okay, so what have you said yes to?
I don't want to go into it here because it, but I've just, I don't just stop.
What have you said yes to?
Oh, Kerry.
Kerry, can I remind you that you're the person that has a go at me?
I know.
This is what I mean.
I say yes to everything.
Well, we need to support each other.
Okay, well, I'm here to support you.
What did you say yes to?
And can I have a go at you?
Yes, you can have a go at me.
Okay, great.
Okay, great.
I'd love to know what it is.
Come on.
It's a thing, it's no big scoop.
It's just doing loads of radio things.
that I don't want to do.
I've been seeing your PR is through the roof.
It's through the roof.
It's bananas.
I don't want it.
I don't do, well, I do virtually no PR.
Yeah, because you've got a million followers.
You're doing, you're doing my PR for me, and I appreciate that.
I almost feel like when you're doing your PR, in a way, you're doing my PR.
I like me to start doing PR.
Kerry's on new swimming.
Kerry's on the one show.
Kerry's on the blah, blah, blah.
She's on Sunday brunch, and I feel like, oh,
That's it. She's done it for both of us.
Yeah, because I always plug Memory Lane, by the way.
I know.
And Bone to pick with you, Ben bought your flyer back from your gig.
You don't even mention Memory Lane.
What do you mean the flyer?
He came back with your flyer.
On the back, it's got your biog.
Jen does this. She did that.
Live at the Apollo.
Oh, I don't know anything about that.
No mention of Memory Lane.
No mention of Memory Lane.
You need to start.
I didn't even know there was a flyer.
I didn't know about the flyer.
I didn't know.
Genuinely, why is there a flyer for a show that you're all
attending surely a flyer should be for something that you haven't said I can I can
address this I can address this for future flyers which I wasn't even aware
now I know I'm paying for flyers I didn't even know that I will I will address the
flyer situation because that is unacceptable and I appreciate the feedback and I
think you're right to say that to me I what I will say is that any PR that you do
whatever it is any sort of promotion going on a chat show going on a podcast going on
thing going on you are deleting a little bit of yourself as you go that's what's happening
and that's how i feel yeah but you can then bring that bit of you back how you have to you've got to
nurture it but that little bit of you is gone for a short while it's gone um that's why i don't do
it because the deletion pro i mean i've already got very little of me anyway so if you start deleting
i'll literally become like a silhouette an angry silhouette but still a silhouette so
So I limit the PR.
I think I need to have like morning chats with you that are like less than three minutes
where you go, Kerry, you say no to that, you say no to that.
And then I say, Jen, you say no to that.
You say no to that.
And then we get on with our day.
Yeah.
Yeah, that could be our tagline, couldn't it?
Kerry and Jen say no to that.
Yes.
I just need to say no to things that I really don't want to do.
Do it.
Anything with the word celebrity.
in it, it's got to go.
Yeah, although celebrity traitors, I'm sorry,
but what an absolute banger of a show.
I'm very, very invested in this show.
Yeah.
I'm always invested in traitors and it's, as you know,
I don't watch, you know, celebrity anything.
Me and you get a lot of pleasure out of this show.
Oh, my God, I absolutely love it.
Why?
Why are we being?
Why?
I don't know.
I really don't know.
You and me would be awful on it.
Oh, we would be, that's partly why I love.
love it. You, oh my God, would be the worst traitor. Yeah, it'd be awful.
You've got absolutely no sides to you. You would be so shit. I would write Kate on the board
because of your hat and then, because they all say, they all say, oh, I've put your name. I'm sorry.
I don't know why. And I'm like, I'm going to have to start being clear. No, you've got to
know why. If I've got nothing to go on, it'll have to be your hat. Yeah, I mean, the hat's
inexcusable. I mean, there's a couple of things Jonathan Ross has been wearing. And I was like,
At one point you looked like Charlotte Holmes having a breakdown.
I said, what are you doing?
What's going on here?
His outfits are extraordinary.
So I put on social media, I think we can all agree,
the only winner is Jonathan's stylist.
And then Ed Gamble messaged me and went, Kerry,
he hasn't got stylist those are his clothes.
No, he hasn't.
That is his clothes.
He's always been really outlandish.
And he always, this isn't a new thing.
He's not suddenly gone, I'm going to go on traders and stuff wearing weird shit.
No, he's got all that game.
That is him.
But, yeah, he, he, yeah, he's, he's, he's,
got some looks there for a 64-year-old man, which I'm enjoying.
No, over the moon with.
I love all of the, every time they get rid of someone, I just think, and this is a compliment
to you that I want you to leave.
I'm not even sure why I'm saying your name.
It's just a subconscious thing I don't like about your face, but I want you to know
it's a compliment to you that I've put your name down.
Oh, it's hilarious.
And also, my other beef with the other normal show is sometimes when people are really vulnerable
on it, I'm uncomfortable.
Well, when we've talked about this before and I get a bit like,
oh, are they being looked after?
But because they're celebrities, I know they're all fine,
so I can just enjoy it more.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, I'm loving it, Kerry.
Traitors is it for me.
Do you think we'll ever get on those shows?
Do you think we'll ever get on those shows, Jen?
Oh, God, no.
No, no, no.
Do you know what?
That is the advantage of doing PR is that you get seen enough.
People think, oh, I should have her on Traders.
Whereas people like me that go, I won't go on anything.
then they'll go, well then you shan't go on the thing you want to go on.
No, I know.
There's no, it's not, it's a dark art.
Who knows?
Who knows?
It's all load of bollets.
But I am going to get bounderied.
I'm going to be boundered.
That's my new thing.
Next year, 2026, boundaries.
I'm excited for you and I'm excited for me because I'm going to join you on your boundary train.
Excellent.
We'll be the boundary twins.
You wait.
You won't see me doing a single charity event.
Well, you're on tour most of next year, so.
Yeah.
And I don't think I'll be filling any games.
apps doing anything for free. Forget about it. Don't even ask me. Jen, who are we talking to
today? Today, Kerry, we are talking to the absolutely hilarious Kyla. I had so much fun chatting
to Kyla and the laughter, the joy. What a woman. Oh, this was such a fun chat and also I think I
learned a lot. I learned a lot. Well, I reconnected with things I think I already knew but she
she reminded me of the importance of things and I was like you're right you're right I loved her
I loved her I know me too not only she really funny she's just got her she's got her head screwed on
she's she's she's she's a wise wise woman and this was a really really fun chat so here is
Kerry and I talking to the wonderful Kyla cobbler
Oh yes
Thanks for sending
Do you know I found this so hard
Really? Yeah because I'm not a photo
person and you couldn't find them
Oh no I sent them in but I was like
I don't know if my my I got everyone together
Rallied my mom my sister and my husband
And I was like right I got a five photos
And I was like it has to be kind of funny
And I was like but I just
I don't photograph
I don't like being photographed so I'm not really
And I don't take photos of people
So I was like Jesus
I'm not great at taking photos
No, you're not.
Okay.
I was very quick.
Actually,
you cut you off by the knees now.
Yeah, yeah.
You're not, no.
But are you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I take photos.
I take photos.
I look at old photos.
I love all photos now.
Yeah, I love all these.
Some of these are very funny.
Yeah, yeah, they are.
But I can't deal with,
I think because of,
because of fucking the iPhones and stuff.
Exactly.
They've changed our relationship to photos.
But I think if you're of the generation
where you've got boxers,
of old pictures
then your relationship with pictures
is a bit different
yeah yeah
well when we were in
when we were in South Africa
my fiancee South African
we went on like a big huge
5,000 kilometre a road trip
and we brought a Kodak
and it was amazing
oh yeah
old school go get them developed
yeah just like a little
yeah it was really cool
yeah because you're more careful
about the pictures you were
you're like oh this would be nice
so let's try this or you know
There's loads of me weeing outside.
He thought that was hilarious.
I've got a few outdoor piss shots.
What's that about?
Oh, like blackmail or something.
No, it's when it comes up on their screensaver.
There's one of me and I'm, oh God, I can't even talk about it.
But I am going for a wee.
We've gone into a family cubicle.
It's me surrounded by the children and I'm weeing.
And Chloe's taking a picture and I've looked up just at that moment.
Yeah, that's face.
I know that face.
And it's that look of what.
Outrage.
Outrage.
Don't do it.
Vulnerment.
So much.
So, but when it comes up, so we were out for a drink with some friends where we live in Brighton,
we were at the pub, and Chloe put a phone down, and that photo was the screen, that was the screen thing.
And I went, take it, take it off, take it off now.
And you do it all your ability to manage technology?
You're like, how do you do this?
And also, because I don't have an iPhone, I don't understand how to take it off on this.
Oh my God, take it off.
It's so funny.
It's worth getting O-Fay with iPhones just to take that picture off.
I'm like literally, now I know how to take it off, but that was a...
Anyway, by the time I took it off, everyone in the pub and seen it.
Also, peeing for us is very vulnerable.
Oh, it's really involved.
I mean, I get everything, you're stroaching down, you can't run, you're out in sprint mode.
No, it's a whole.
Yeah, it's a whole thing, like, I hate that.
And you watch out and then people are like, someone's coming over and you're like, I can't stop the stream.
No, you can't stop the stream.
And then the trousers are half, oh no, it's fine, they're not coming.
And then you peed in your pants.
Yeah.
I peed in my Birkenstock.
One of my Birkenstocks is just piss soul.
From us in road trips and I'm like, I got a piss in the Birkenstock.
And Simon's like, there's piss in your shoe and I'm like, look, whatever.
I peed in the safari.
It was terrifying.
Oh, shit.
Because I was there.
Obviously, nothing happened.
But in my mind, I was like, this is the line's going to see my little moon furry Irish bum and be like, that is the juice thing.
Yeah.
Oh, the trickle of piss.
Just like, they can smell it.
They can smell it.
Yeah.
It's terrifying.
Yeah.
It's terrifying.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
And I was after two glasses away, so he's pissing a lot.
Oh, yeah.
Pissing gets real after a certain age, isn't it?
There's a lot of pissing.
Also, if you are, apparently, well, this is true, actually.
My dad lived in Norway for a while.
We went to Norway, and it gets really cold, yeah?
And you pee more when it's cold.
Is it?
Because your bladder shrinks, and so you have to pick, anyway.
Lots of outdoor pissing.
Yeah, but like, fjord piss.
Yeah, fjured pissing at like minus 27 degrees.
You've got to take your pants down.
Oh, man.
And we could set up a podcast of just talking about outdoor pisses
and all the places we've had them.
And the photos.
And the photos to back up.
This is niche.
We don't even, do we need these motives?
Some of these are fantastic.
I love the zoom in.
We'll come to that in a minute, but let's go to the...
I don't know what I said, no.
Is this the first one?
Amazing.
Amazing.
How old are you there?
So that is my sister's communion.
And my mum and dad in that photo are like,
fuck, I mean, they're like 20 something.
I mean, it's crazy to me.
Because I used so angry at my dad.
And then I got older and I was like, oh, you were crushing it.
Because like I'm 34.
Like at my age, he had like a wife, two kids and a mortgage.
I know.
It's mad when you've got young parents.
Oh, my, it is.
And you get older.
You're like, oh my God, I was so angry.
But like, I went for like three days with kitchen roll instead of toilet paper.
Because I kept forgetting to buy it.
and then me and get my dad
I'm like I can't even manage myself
oh my god
yeah yeah yeah yeah so that's my sister's communion
and that was me in that beautiful dress
and a hat that I loved
what's going on with that hat
my so my mom loved it
like my mom
I've never seen a hat like it
and you know what it's incredible
I have a gigantic head so she went out of her way
to get that hat like she's from Belfast
so I'm sure she went over the border
right to get like
she hunted that hat down
She hunted that hat down
Like there was like a proper
And how would you hunt a hat like that down?
Where would you start?
I reckon the mean streets
I think you got to talk to somebody
You got to her back door
I mean there's no one
There's an abnormal sense to it
That's not going to be hanging in the
No no no
That's going to be either made by someone
With tiny hands
I don't know
It's just something right
And does the hat match the dress
Is that what's going to?
Yeah the flower and the dress
Is great
And the collar
The lace collar
Doily colour
Also I'm delighted
Oh
You're delighted
delighted.
I've never seen more delight on a face.
I'm delighted.
My big cheeks.
I'm so happy.
I am very cute.
How old are you there?
I would have been Tirona's communion.
Oh God,
I don't even know.
How old are you in a community?
Is it like seven or eight?
A communion and I think you're eight.
Yeah.
And my sister's four years older than me.
So I would have been four.
But I loved my older sister and she hated me.
That's the rules.
Like I see like, you know like there's like sitcoms out now and it's like,
I have two sisters open a candle shop.
I'm like, if I fucking ask my sister,
I was open a candle shop.
She'd be like, fuck off.
Like, we're not...
I can set you on fire.
Oh my God.
Like, we're not that vibe.
We are fascinated by sister politics
because we don't have sisters.
Oh, you do not have sisters?
No, I've got three brothers.
I've got one brother.
I remember that fish.
Yeah, yeah.
Your mom is so sisters.
People project that sisters...
I always wanted a sister.
Yeah.
It's tough.
You got a sister,
but then you talk to people with sisters
and they're like...
You don't want sister.
But it's the age gap.
You got to go under four years.
You got to go, in my opinion,
two to three years.
Not necessarily.
I know people with a slow twins
and they still fight in each other.
My God.
Well, up and down.
Well, my dad had,
my dad went on and remarried a young one
and has shitloads kids now.
So I've got loads of half siblings.
Loads and loads.
And my youngest sister is eight now.
Wow.
Wow, he's still going.
Jeez.
Very generous lover.
Terrible father.
Very generous lover.
That's a very forgiving phrase.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I guess now being that age,
it's kind of cool
treat that, yeah, yeah, I'm like a cool aunt or whatever almost.
Right.
Me and T.
Now, I mean, I love her.
Now we're best friends.
But when you were kids.
But when we were kids, I mean, all I want to do is hang out with her.
All I, and like, my mom used to force her to play with me.
And I loved, I loved Barbies.
And Tirona would get the Barbie and move it.
And I'm like, are you not going to like talk?
And she's like, I'm playing in my mind.
Isn't that all siblings?
He kind of doesn't matter if it's brothers.
I mean, I've got a younger brother and I was awful to him.
you. Oh God, he always wanted to play. He would just come and sit next to me in the hope that I would
acknowledge him. And I would always just refuse to acknowledge him. And he had a secret hideout at the
front of the garden, which was just a bush, which my mom had hollowed out and then he hung stuff on
there. And you could see him in it. But we were never allowed to say, because it was secret. Right.
And I'd be like, I can see you. And my mom would like, don't tell him you can see him. I can see
you. It's just pissing on his chips every day. I know. But obviously I love him now. Yeah,
Of course. Yeah, I love my siblings as well
now. But yeah, so I was just so delighted to hang out
with Tiernan. And then it's so funny. And that's a big day
for her. That's a big day in Ireland. Oh, my God. The communion. Are you
fucking kidding? That's a big day. Especially
for young parents when it's like, basically
they're like, to my mom, you're a fucking whore. You got
pregnant too young. Mom's like, I'm going to show you.
I'm going to rock up with their shoulder blades.
She's going to have a fucking flowery dress, a handmade hat.
You get ready. Like, yeah, yeah. It was like, you'd
something to prove. Yeah, yeah. You know, because she got pregnant
so young. How young? How young? She was 19. She was 19.
and she had my sister,
which back then was,
I mean,
just so,
like,
and she was out of wedlock.
Oh, scandal.
Terrible.
Terrible.
She got married
in a powdered blue dress,
bless her.
Oh,
you're poor mom.
That's terrible.
She loves clothes.
Like,
she's opposite of me.
Like,
she loves getting dolled up.
She loves matching.
She's only 58.
Like, she's gorgeous.
Yeah,
yeah.
She's gorgeous.
And, yeah.
So I was just,
yeah,
there was a big day,
big day at the christening.
So,
or at the communion.
But after your communion on the Monday,
and you go into school
and you get your portrait done.
And because we had no money
and my mom wanted professional photos,
she asked Tierna's teacher
could I go in the photo in my dress?
And Tiern, I was like, oh, my God.
And I was like, yes.
Oh, so you've got to wear the dress two big days.
So what did you go into your school?
Into the classroom.
Now, we were in the same school, but I was,
oh yeah, I would have been, oh yeah, you're right.
I would have been younger.
Oh, I was just in junior infants maybe
when she was in first class, yeah.
And then you went in.
mailed you in
Yeah, I wasn't in a wheelchair
Why isn't in a wheelchair?
I walked in
I went in and we got the photograph
and I'm sitting like this
in the same face that I did
and turn it's like
Oh, she didn't want you there
She absolutely didn't want me there
I don't have any photographs with her even now
I want to see that photograph as well
Yeah, yeah I gotta get my mom to send it on
And why have you zoomed in on this cute little fist
Because just to show how delighted I am
I'm literally
Because I do that now
I hold my thumbs when I walk as well
I do that. I do that. And my granddad used to do it. It's weird, isn't it?
Yeah, I close my fifth. Or even when I'm angry or something like that I do this and my, everyone always mocks me about it.
But I'm like, it's just my expressive way. Yeah.
In Ireland, you're not allowed to be too big.
So I would just hold onto my thumb out. You're not even allowed a thumb out.
You know, no, no, no. Don't, who the fuck do you think you are?
I just love it. I love the little zoom in on the chubby little fist.
I think it's so funny. I'm just like, yes.
Oh, snap.
What is it? It's like, all these Catholic rituals, because I, I, I, I, I, I,
you know, the Spanish mum,
obviously I have the Holy Communion and everything.
And when you look back on them,
you're like, they're completely bananas.
Bunkers.
Aren't they?
Yeah, yeah, bonkers.
Like I have a picture of me in my Holy Communion.
And I've had a veil.
I'm not joking.
Like a wedding dress.
I'm not joking.
Is it a wedding? Let's unpack.
It's your first wedding to God.
It's your first promise to God.
And it's a wedding dress, essentially.
Essentially, it's a mini wedding dress.
Yeah.
It's your first promise to God.
With a veil.
Mine had a veil.
That's a bit rogue.
Really?
I never seen anybody else.
would have been. Is that more of a Spanish thing? Not even in Ireland? No. Oh, Jesus.
Not even in Ireland. Why have I never seen these pictures?
I've got them. I can bring them out. I can bring them out. I mean, there needs to be
a whole. That's another news for God's Holy Communion. Holy Communion.
Gloves. I had gloves. I had silk gloves. I had silk gloves. They were a part of the whole thing.
You don't have to have them, but you can have them. You can have them. They put them on. It's all to do with like purity and like
virginity. Well, you're a child. I hope so one would hope. Yeah, yeah. One would hope. That would be kind of in it.
Yeah. Yeah. It's a big deal. Are you what you're not Catholic? No. No, no, no, no.
And I've never been to a Holy Communion.
They're great crack.
Lovely sandwiches.
That's what I'm so jealous of.
There's a big party afterwards.
The party's great religions.
I'm like, I don't know about all the rules, but can I come to the parties?
Yeah, you can come to, even come into the church if you want.
It's great crack.
Just bring your veil.
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Let's have a look at your next photo.
Which is, which, which, which one should we go to?
Okay, so you on the beach?
So that is me, my, that's my South African, uh, fiancé, uh, Simon, lovely man.
And that is the Christmas swim.
So down in West Cork on Christmas day, you go for a swim.
And Simon, being South African, loves a speedo.
I was going to say, he's got his buddies on.
And I was like, Simon, are you not going down to Skibri?
And he's like, I think that it's just normal swimwear.
I don't understand what the problem.
of us. Why not?
And I was like, Simon, please put on normal. Please just put on
anything else. Like, just something. And he's like,
nah, if someone has a problem with me wearing my speed
this, I don't understand. It's Christmas Day.
I'm dumping in the water and going to enjoy myself.
And he walks there, he loves. He does look at his face.
Yeah, he looks great. He does look good in this.
Yeah, yeah. He's gorgeous. Where did you and him
meet? I met him when you believe,
I, so I was single for seven years,
seven fucking years. And I went on my last day. I was
online the whole time, online dating. I was great at that.
fucking crash bandicoot next level beat the boss
I was on it all the day
You made your stats
I was there I was there
And then I remember the last day
First day I went on was with this Flemish guy
Disgusting way to describe any language
Flemish
And he was gorgeous but he was tick his shit
Oh my God
I cannot tell you just you know when you're just like
That's an unfortunate combination
I just can't
Good looking? Beautiful
Okay fine
Beautiful
Just don't speak
Yeah yeah no no but it's not
I don't think it's even that night
I was getting drier and drier as he spoke
I was like I can't with you right
So I left and I was like
My comedy career was starting to take off
The opera house was coming up
And I was like you know what
I'm just not going to do this anymore
Like I'm not going to pour myself into trying to find a romantic partner
Because I'm very lucky
Like I've got beautiful people in my life
I have a great life
Like I was like maybe it's just not going to happen this time
And that's grand
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
So I deleted everything
10 days later
In the comedy club in Barcelona
Where I perform all the time
10pm on a Sunday
night which is the graveyard ship for comedy.
I just had five minutes I wanted to try out bullshit material
and Simon was in the third row
and there was only about 12 people
in the audience and so what? Like
did he come up to you afterwards? No I was on stage
and I was doing a bit
I didn't make it into the show. I hate telling it
to comedians because I'm like it was just material and I was saying
we should get a WhatsApp group as women
like decide an age and then just stop
giving blow jobs
because men don't know
how our bodies work right so I'm like we'll just say
27 if we all agree in silence
And we just tell them
They'd be like, okay
Okay, they can't do it
So I was doing this
And all the girls were giggling
And all the men were looking at me
And then Simon was laughing
And I heard this big deep laugh
And I was like oh
And then I looked at him
And he changes
If you saw him now he's got a big beard
He had a big blonde
Handled Bar mustache
And this blonde quiff
And typical African
And I was looking at him
And I was like
Who is this man
And he really intrigued me
So then I left
I'd go to another show
Because I wanted to try it out
A few times in the night
And I just said to my friend Darren
Will you ask that blonde fella
if he's single.
And Darren just waited
to the end of the show.
I meant in crowdwork.
And he's like,
oh, you're at my collar.
And then he just wrote to me.
And then we didn't see each other
for months and months and months
because he went to America
and I started my first little tour.
And then he came back in October.
He was in the Irish pub
during the rugby season.
And a girl, Val Brasnan,
was like, we have an extra ticket
to go see this comedian
doing our first hour.
My first I might have done 16 minutes.
And he's like, if you want to come.
And then it was me.
And I'm not trying to lick my own nipples.
but I fucking crushed it
and I knew he'd text me
I knew he would
because I was on fire
Joe those nights
you come off
and you're like
I'm the best in the world
it was so good
and then he texted me
the next day
he was like
do you want to do some yoga
together or something
and I was like
do you want it
yeah
I'll do you
I'll just some down and down
and you
get him
and then he went to yoga
and he was so into it
that I almost got the ick
that is that a yoga
body there
like he's
But he's water polar and rugby.
He's just South African.
He's just typical, does, did everything.
They did all of it, aren't they?
All of it.
And they're only hobbies.
They're always brying something.
Yeah, meat.
And yeah, he's just a tank.
What was he doing?
So he lives in Barcelona?
He lives in Barcelona.
What took him there?
He was just trying to get a European passport.
So he studied, he studied as an architect and he studied in Delphin, Holland.
And then he came over to Spain.
And then one of his friends was like, oh, I can, like, marry you.
And then, you know what I mean, do that.
So it was just all, he was just trying to kind of, he was just hustling.
And what took you there?
as well. Well, I was in Australia
and then met an Italian man
and then fell in love. I was 21, so
like, you know that love. My God, it's the most
beautiful love. So, and then I moved italy
for him, for that lasted 20 minutes.
And then I stayed, but because in school,
I struggled all through school.
Like, I'm not academic at all. Right.
Like, I've all the learning difficulties
when I was in special classes and I had
really embarrassing. I hated it. But then when I got
Italy, I was picking up the language really fast.
Right. And I was like, well, I obviously can learn something.
So I thought, because I always thought
myself I didn't know what I was going to be like comedy wasn't in my life. Did you always
know you were going to not stay in Ireland? Did you have a sense that you were going to just
live internationally or no never it was my sister everyone thought because I'm a real homebird
like I love my mom so everyone thought I would stay but then because I was waitressing and
bartending I was like I might as well go and do that somewhere else like yeah I couldn't
get into third level education and then I was in Italy and I learnt the language and Spanish
yeah Spanish that's why I moved to Barcelona because I got to 30 I had well I got to 29 and I had
Italian in the bag, I was there for seven years
and I was like, this is before AI,
so it's like maybe if I got another language,
like two languages would be like having a degree
so I could go work in like a corporate job
because I was always terrified of getting,
like I love bar work but I was like
just the idea of opening and closing every day
like it's really exhausting working in a bar
so I was like I don't know if I want to do this my whole life
so I was always conscious of like trying to find a career
trying to find a career.
So I was like I'll go to Spain and learn Spanish
and then I started comedy when I got to Barcelona
which I was completely left field.
I mean that's because when I
Think of places to build a comedy career
But Spain is not
No, zero
My family don't really know what I do
No, no, no, no, they don't even
They don't even a word for it
Like they don't even have like a, it's like a monologol
In Italian, not in Spanish, sorry
How did you start doing it then?
Well, I was doing online
So I was doing online like posts and stuff
Not reals didn't exist at the time
But I do stories every morning
But I wasn't necessarily trying to be funny
I was just chatting
Because what I found when Instagram
Because remember Instagram was just photos
yeah yeah and I loved that because I like photography not I don't take photos but I like looking at nice things yeah and then I remember when bloggers came out in Ireland it was huge in an influencing of vlogging and I remember seeing these women and just feeling compelled to like I was like this isn't real like I remember looking at them and being like oh fuck off are we not already under enough pressure from fucking the beauty industry but other women being like I wake up and I have I tune on
an avocado and I spit it out
and then I have one almond
scene and you're like I'm going to actually
I just I honestly
I was like no I refuse this
It's not it's not authentic
It's bullshit
It's not anyone's life
Oh my God I just
And also we're not people
We are cyclical people
We're cycles
We're like nature
We're not supposed to do the same thing
Everything you're supposed
This thing of I get up every morning
And I take off my mind this
And that's not what we're
That's not what we are
Look at our menstrual cycles
We're supposed to honour the cycle
Of what our body is going through
like and it's much more beneficial
for our creativity
and our minds
and our souls if we do honor our cycles
but no in this world
everyone every day perfect
same thing
cottage cheese
protein milkshakes
fucking oh I just
so you were like
I need to make my own
yeah so I just start chatting
and again very like
like because it's all well and good now
lads because I have like 600 thousand followers
but trust me when you've got 300 followers
you're an asshole
you know what I mean
like everyone was like
what the fuck are you doing
and my sister was like I'm not talking to you anymore
like no
Was it, it was just, I just, I'm just doing this.
It was just, and you should hear me like, I look back,
and I'd have my accent, I was like this,
and that's how I used to be talking,
because I'd be from cork, like,
and I'd even look back, it's so funny.
Yeah.
So I just grew and grew.
It just grew and grew, and grew.
And I would call myself, like, the anti-blogger,
and it just grew and grew, again,
with no real direction in it, just a space.
Because I was in Italy, too, and I missed the crack.
I missed fun.
Yeah.
Because the Italians are amazing, but they're not fun.
They're not, they're not very fun.
They're not.
So I was kind of like I missed that kind of banter
And I was working in fashion at the time
So I was just surrounded by
This idea of what women should be
And how they should present themselves
And it used to infuriate me
Because I know I'm a beautiful one
I know I'm an intelligent woman
I'm like just because I don't fit into what you're selling
Because you know he's bullocks
And you're like I'm just not drinking the Kool-Aid
I'm not drinking it
And I was so young
And I knew there was women my age
That were like getting
The same
Yeah but they were suffering
Because they didn't
There was no one saying hey it's grand
You can also just be yourself
You can blow this off, yeah, and do something else.
You know what I mean?
Like, you don't have to get involved, so...
And now everyone's doing that.
Like, it feels like that is what most reels are,
like, lampooning that ideal.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
But, like, that's what you started doing.
Yeah, yeah, started doing it ages ago.
And when did the stand-up come into that?
So I'm in Barcelona, COVID hits,
and I'm working on the bears, anyway, as always.
And a fella writes to me, Mike Rice,
incredible comedian based here as well.
And he's, like, trying to come on my podcast,
just as a guest
and I said yeah
grand
now I'd never done stand up
and he called me
a comedian
and I was thinking
I said I'm not a comedian
he said you're not a standup
but you're making content
like you are a comedian
I said well I loved it
and I really fancied him
right
I was really into him
and I was like oh my god
now he's like my best friend
now nothing ever happened
just to be clear
but I really fancied him
so I was kind of like hanging out with him
and like trying my arm
we went to an open night together
because I was going to watch him
tiny room about 14 15 people
and just so happened to be an Italian work party.
So he's like, why don't you go and do it in Italian?
And I was like, yeah, yeah, again, just trying to impress him.
So I took a shot of whiskey.
I got up and I just said an Italian, I'm really into him.
So if you could just get in bored here and have, just laugh
and make it sound as if I'm crushing.
They were everything kidding.
And it worked.
I got off and everyone was like, oh my God, you crush.
And I was like, yeah, I crushed.
And I was like, yeah, I crushed.
Okay, what about this picture?
You look like you've hurt your knee.
Hurt your knees.
I love the Gucci's with you.
So, I know, the Gucci.
So, I know, the Gucci.
So, is this.
This is my best friend, Michele, who's actually in London.
I haven't seen him in so long, and he just got here yesterday for the shows.
I'm really excited.
He looks kind of Italian.
He is Italian.
He's from Verona.
Yeah, he's from Verona.
So he works in Gucci.
So I was cursed.
This is an interesting story.
I think I was cursed.
Okay.
Right?
So I had a friend, a model, who was from.
Burkino Faso, I don't know how to say it.
Burkina Faso, yeah.
Yeah, is that, right?
Burkino Faso and Capavoreo, like Ivory, I don't know.
I don't know the words in, because I learned them in...
Yeah, okay. Are these places?
Yeah, they're in Africa, right?
Uh-huh.
So I was friends with her, and I was seeing this guy, and she ended up sleeping with him, right?
And we fell out, and I was like, that's so bad, I can't believe you would do that.
Like, I hadn't even slept with him.
And I was like, so bad, and we had this massive falling out, and she was always trying to
get back about and I was like, whatever. So she goes home
to her mom and she was like, I told my
mom about you and she's really upset
about what happened, right? And I know her
mom does witchy stuff, right?
So in her version of events, you're the bad
guy? She thinks I should have forgiven her.
And I found it very difficult to forgive her,
which is on me, but I just did. I just found it very
very... No, that feels like a betrayal.
It was definitely a betrayal, but I was just, it wasn't
even about him, but I was like... That's just
shit. It's a friendship. And you know what is that? Like,
she's a fucking model. You could write anyone.
Give me your man. Like, do you know what I?
I'm like, I have to work my arse off
to get an Italian fella to even look in my direction.
Your one just walks in and everyone's just like, you know.
He's full-blown Jolene.
Yeah, why did you have to?
Yeah, great song.
Great song.
And you lived it.
Yeah, I fucking lived through me in Dally.
Less tits.
So then she tells me about that and I'm like, whatever.
And I said, look, it's fine.
I'm not holding an antenna thing.
I just don't want to hang around.
I don't trust it, you know.
So I'm out running.
I run the say, I love running.
I'm a jogger.
So when you're on this run, you know that the witchy mum is on you.
Yeah, I knew this.
this has happened and I was like whatever it's grand right so I'm running around I run every day
and I run the same route every day for any serial killers very easy to find so I'm running
it's like the one thing they tell you not to do and I'm like I'm just like routine so I'm running on
this gravel path and I swear to God I felt someone push me right and I fall and my knee
birth and I was running like my my running pace is like seven minute a kilometer like I'm not a fast runner
I'm a long run I'm long distance runner my long distance runner my
My knee burst open in a way.
I can't even tell you, right?
I couldn't even get up.
So I turned around, there was no one there.
Oh, wow.
It was so...
It does look bad.
It was so bad.
It was just like all cut to every.
It was so, so random, right?
So I ring Macalian, I was like, I'm after really hurting myself, like, on this gravel.
I was like, I felt like someone, but I promise you, I sound mental, I felt hands on my back.
But where did you get that...
So how did you conclude it was her?
She voodooed you.
I think she voodooed me.
She voodooed you.
I swear to God, I think
Because I believe in all that stuff
When did you put these two things together in your head?
Well, because then I went
So I got up, I went home and I cleaned it
And then I went down to the pub
Because it was a match on
And then it was really hurting me
And it felt really hot
But I had never really dealt with
I've never, thank touch wood
Never really been injured, so to speak
So I was like, is it like bar whatever?
Then I go to bed
I had a few pines in me
And then I went to bed
And I woke up and my knee was swollen
Roasting
Oh, really
And I rang me a best friend Cammy
who's a doctor
Well trainee doctor
at that time.
And I rang and I was like,
Kamiya, I was like, come here,
my knee, my genocchio.
I was like, it's fucked.
Like, I can't even walk.
So she came and got me.
Her dad has a surge or a GP office.
And I went in and he was like,
I have never seen an infection like this.
What?
Wow.
He was like, I've never seen something
so infected so quickly.
And then I, in that moment I was like,
I'd been cursed.
Not only,
not only did you get pushed over.
But then she infected your
I honestly, but there was no one pushed me but I swear to God.
hands on your back.
I felt hands on my back
and then the infection
and then I had to go
for 20...
You've been fucking voodied.
You got voodied bad, man.
26 days in and out
every single day
to the surgery
to get it dressed.
Cleaned.
Because it was so...
It was like this.
I have a big mad scare.
Wait, wait,
what did you fucking land on?
Gravel.
Oh, Jesus.
Let me see.
It's not that bad,
but like it's like a proper look.
But you still got it?
Yeah.
Gravel, just gravel.
But it was so...
And lads, I've run and I'm...
But if you have that sensation
of like,
like, I know what happened.
You know, as a woman you fucking know as well.
You know.
I even knew she rode him.
The next day, he had dropped her home
and the next day met up with her
and she's being weird
and in my mind I was like,
because my, I come from a family
of that kind of carry on.
So I was like, is it my trauma?
But in my mind, I was like,
she fucked him.
Do you just know?
Yes.
She said she didn't fuck him.
She said she didn't
and then he told me that they did.
And then she was pissed off with you
for not forgiving her.
So wait a second, she said to you,
oh my God, so not only did she guess like you.
Yeah.
She cursed you
and she got to let you.
She cursed me,
yeah.
And then she wonders
why you're not friends.
I know, I know.
Did you ever reconcile
with her?
No.
I was going
And now we're best friends.
No, no, no, but I want closure.
You talk about cycles.
No, no, no.
I want my closure.
Yeah, fair, fair.
No, but I knew it was so
fucking gnarly.
Oh, I like it that you know, you know, you know.
But another time it happened to me as well,
I must have a garden angel.
I was walking home from the pub in the city where I'm from
and there was like an,
it was like a well-lit area where I knew I could go to my friends
and there was like a dark kind of alley
and I had it over the strap bag
and I was like
I'm gonna lose going to go out in the shortcut
and I felt someone pulling my bag back
and there was no one there.
What?
Yeah yeah and then I walked
I was like I'll just go the other way
and then someone got attacked
down the alley
the same night
Oh fuck
You love all this
I love it
I love it
I can see your eyes
and let up
I love it
I love it too
I believe in it
I'm fully available
to believe in it
more than I'm available
to believe the other things
I'm supposed to believe
Okay but I just want to establish
what are we believing in here
just some angels
higher powers, different energies.
Maximus Woo-woo.
Yeah.
Okay.
Just that it's like, okay, we've got five senses,
but I'm like, I feel as women, I cannot.
Because I think this is what the beauty industry and this,
we're all perfect.
I'm like, we're denying ourselves what we are,
which is that intuition.
Which is?
Yeah, that intuition.
Like my sister's a mom now.
It's fucking credible.
Yeah.
My mom would bring me lads and be like, are you okay?
And I'm like, and I'll just start crying.
And I'm like, well, this thing happened.
She's like, yeah, I could just feel it.
And I'm 34.
Yeah.
I'm not even her babbo anymore.
You know it. There are some friends where she, like my friend Karen, I'll be, I'll ring her and she'll go, I was just thinking of you.
Oh, that happens all the time. Yeah, but we ignore it. But I think it's developed in us even more because if you think about our main predator is men, the thing that kills us as men. And we live with them. Yeah. So I reckon our, and we're not physically bigger. So I reckon our intuition is something that's protected us all this time.
What you mean in terms of like our instinct? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Our instinct, our intuition. Just that feeling. And I reckon in this world we live in now, we're.
with beauty and this and this,
where they're trying to pull us away from my,
and the phones, it's like,
you lose that.
Yeah.
Whereas I, like, sit with stuff all the time.
Like, for me, if it's not a hell yes, it's a no.
Even with offers and gigs, if I'm like,
do you get an offer and you're like,
and it's like a lot of money and you're like, yeah, yeah, I don't.
But there's something about it.
I'll always just be like, you know what, I'll pass.
Unless I'm like, fuck yeah, let's do it.
I feel I'm like, not.
Again, you see, this must be very liberating to know that.
So liberating.
Yeah.
Very stressful for my managers.
Tell us exactly why you don't want to do this.
And you're also programmed to be so ambitious
and so like driven.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just as women, it's like you've got to be ambitious.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you're like, oh, maybe I'll really know how I feel about stuff.
Longevity.
For me, it's longevity.
Like, it doesn't have to be the richest or the most insane.
I just want to keep doing it.
I want to keep being a comic.
So I don't need to rush into every English-speaking territory
and take over the world.
I just need to build my people, you know what I mean?
Very well.
Yeah.
Very well.
Yeah.
So whatever your strategy is, it's working.
It's working.
But Simon at the beginning, Todd, I was mentored.
And now he just trusts me.
Really?
No, we shouldn't go there and he's like, oh, I don't know why, but I believe you.
That's fine.
Yeah.
Yeah, I would follow you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like I'm learning a lot of this podcast.
Oh, a lot.
Oh, a lot.
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Is this your, oh, is this your lovely nun?
that my granny Mona
that you talked about
Yes that's actually the story
I was going to tell
She's so cute
She was
I come from
Yeah, it's my mummy's mom
I come from women
Like I come from a fucking matriac
Like Ireland is a matriarchal
Like Ireland is a matriarchal
Yeah yeah yeah
The woman is the
Like I remember when I was a waitressing
And you go to the table
Like and the mother would be there
And she'd be like
He'll have half roast dinner now
And like
A glass of cordial
You know and then I'm like
Growing men like
You know what I mean
But the I like women in Ireland
They can't do anything.
They can't do anything.
Like, what do these men do in their wives' time?
Yeah, yeah.
They just don't, they die.
They die.
They die.
They have to die.
Within, like, nine months, they die.
It's incredible.
But, like, my granny was an absolute.
She was, like, the first woman in her parish everywhere trousers.
Oh, wow.
Amazing.
Like, she was just, yeah, yeah.
And she was like, I just need to ride my bike.
She's from the north, like.
And, like, they were coming back.
Even riding a bike in some communities is radical.
Yeah, yeah.
I remember where my mom went home one time and there was a distant relation that was, you know,
coming off the rails, maybe.
And they were like, I saw Brenda the other week
and she was riding a bike.
I know.
Jeez, guys, everybody.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like, that's exactly what it's like.
It's like, like, she's literally being rid.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's just riding, she's actually on a bicycle.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, it's crazy.
Oh, no, but like back then as well,
like my granny was born, I mean, she was 97.
I mean, I can't even do the math, sorry.
You couldn't get a job, could you?
No, no, no, if you were married.
No, no, she wouldn't do, like, she couldn't do,
like her, so her, so her mummy died when she was really young,
so she took care of all her siblings.
She ended up out living them all.
And then she married my granddad
and she had nine sons and a daughter.
And the whole thing back then,
that was during the troubles in Ireland.
And she had nine sons.
And this is a very proud thing.
And none of them joined the IRA,
which back then was like to live there
and not have a boy that joined the Republican army.
Like, you know what I mean?
It was a huge success.
So they all are good men.
And she's just such a like,
I've never,
she's a very religious woman,
but she never shuts it down your throat.
she was all she just everything good
that could come from worshipping
and following a certain discipline
she gave to the world
yeah I mean she
just a hard line value
yeah just never talk shit
never complained
never I just
if I'm half the woman she is
she was incredible
what an amazing
it's incredible privilege
to have a woman like that in your life
oh I'm getting goosebumps
but thinking about her
I just never
and for her to be to live that long
she must have been quite old
when your mum was born right
she was yeah my mom was the last one
so she was in her 40s
my mummy was born
because I had nine boys
and then she got a girl right at the end
no she had a girl in the middle
maybe eight or nine
sorry I could be getting that wrong
but yeah eight or nine
but then my mum had her baby
so obviously my mum got pregnant young
and hadn't been married
and for her like as a Catholic woman
that was kind of
but like my mum and her baby
and my mum said that my granny
came down to cork
because they're from the north
and just took care of my mummy
because like you know you need your mum
yeah of family
when you have kids
and she came down
and she did everything for
and made sure she would do everything for
and made sure she would
was set up and I was just
she was just so beautiful and I remember one time
when I was about 14
I started thinking about dying and I started getting really
scared because you know what? Yeah I
remember crying and crying and just getting so overwhelmed
and I went down to her and
she was sitting she happened to be visiting us. I got
very lucky because because she would visit us I actually got a lot of
quality time with her. Yeah. Because there's like
I mean there's like 75 of us it's like an insane
amount of cousin. So to get someone on one time
in a family that big yeah
and she came down I came
downstairs and I was crying, crying.
It's like, what's wrong with you?
And I was just so scared of dying.
And she was like, oh, just don't worry.
Just pray.
And she's like, every time you smell your roses,
you know, it's the Holy Mary.
And there's all these little things.
And now, you know, I don't have that kind of faith.
No, but comfort's comfort.
Beautiful.
I mean, like absolutely.
And then she got Alzheimer's.
So grounded.
So faithful.
And then she got Alzheimer's and she was hilarious.
You know, so people get Alzheimer's and get quite angry and aggressive.
She was so funny.
So funny.
Like we were sitting there.
My mom has a new.
a new husband, Sean, my stepdad
who's lovely. And we were sitting there
having dinner or whatever and Sean got up
from the table and she's like, who is
that man?
She's just lovely. Oh, she was just...
And you were with her when she died? I got to be with her,
yeah, I got to be with her. The night, no, the night, so
she died after we left but I got to spend the last night
with her. And like... That's so profound that
you'd had all those chats when you were little about death.
Yeah, and then I got to be there. And then you were with her when she died.
Yeah, yeah. I just, or she was just
and it was just this light
There's a word in Italian Tenue, Lucci Theroy,
which is like candlelight, you know, that lovely relaxing way
the opposite of what we do on stage or this, you know,
and it was that, that's what I felt like.
And obviously she would, like, I mean, her Brett was stinking
and everything in her hair, but her hair was over being soft
and I was rubbing her hair and, oh, it was just love.
It was such a privilege.
I don't know why.
It just felt like such a privilege.
It used a privilege to be with someone that you love
in their last hours on the park on the earth.
And I was just like, when you get up there,
please find me a fella.
She did?
She bloody did.
She bloody did.
I was like when you got a seven years single
like I was like please granny
she was just so cute lads
I can't even tell you she was just so
and like she would make all the biscuits
like she would go down south
because it was all rations back then
during the troubles and she would go down off the border
because you wouldn't be able to get clothes or anything
so she'd go down and put on all the clothes
and go up and on the train
and yeah she was just
oh she was so unlike then another time
they'll come back from Mass
and the British Army
stopped them
and this is years
ago, of course, I know things have changed and they were like, they weren't the army,
they were like the kind of like the rebel, the rebel, like the gangsters, like the British kind
of like tough guys, whatever. What? You mean like the, what, the union is? Yeah, yeah, the
UNYS, yeah. So, you know, sometimes I get muddled up with the words and I'm always afraid of
coming across like I'm telling lies. So that's why I'm always like, I don't want to, because
I always get mixed up with what the words are. But yeah, basically the UVF, the unionists, whatever.
So they stopped it and they, they lit my granddad's jacket on fire.
and my granny chocolate jacket
and they were wearing ballet clavas
and she walked straight up to them
because they would have been
they grew up with her in the same estate
and she was like, take off your belly clava
take off your belly clava
and look me in the eyes.
Good for her, oh man.
She was the powerhouse.
And also all those men
they would cower
if a maturedly
and she was tall as well
like five foot eight
but back then
tall woman like
you know what I mean
but she was just
she was very funny
I remember as well
when I was about 17
she was like she was minding us
I don't know what my mum was
and she came into me
she's like
you're never going to make it
in life
you use far too much toilet paper
so funny
that's funny
that's so weird
there's almost like a generation
that thinks
that you use too much toilet paper
like my grandmother
was this
because why are you using
more than two squares
because we're not in the troubles
granny okay
I can use more
I can use more
we've got one last picture
who's this cutie pie
So this is Owen
So this is my sister's baba
So this is the
Next to
What does that say?
Nanny
Oh sorry
Oh probably says Nanny
Yeah probably my mom
That would be my mum
His Nanny
So this is your little nephew
So this is my nephew
Yeah this is one of the photos
I was like I don't even know what to send
But I
So Owen was born
On February 25th
He's 18 months old
And I don't know
He just changed our whole lives
He's just an absolute miracle
I've never ever had
I don't think
I can love anything more than I love Owen.
It hurts my heart. Everything he does,
I'm just like, oh my God.
He's amazing. He's absolute and he's so funny
and he's so lovely. How often do you get to see him?
Not as often I would like to.
But I reckon we have, I'd say maybe three times a year.
But the first time I was touring and I was in Cork
and Tieran and my sister was nine months pregnant
and I went through security and I got a phone call and I turned his in labour.
And I was like, oh no.
Did she go back?
No, well, I rang my mom and I was like, should I go?
go back and my mum's like
do you know what Kyla
the first month
it's actually better
if you come back later
like unless you want to see her
but she's not going to need you now
because like it'll just be
she'll be at home
and she'll be healing
you're in a bubble
so I was like okay okay
so it broke my hair
and I did have to tour
so I'll tour or whatever
so I finished my tour
and about six weeks later
I got they live in the back hours
of nowhere in Balacotton
and I got a plane
and I arrived out midnight
Chinatlected me
we got back to the house
about two o'clock
one o'clock
I peek in and I see this
tiny human
and I know it sounds
really basic
but I was like
oh my God
like you're my sister
I just can't
I'm like this is like
your baby
it was the same
when my granny Mona
when she was dying
my mom was at me
in the room
and I know
that my granny
is my mom's mom
but it was breaking
my hair
because I was like
oh my god
this is your mom
like
and your mom
like I was like
I can't believe
this is your mom
like it was just
I just wanted
to love her
I was like I'm sorry
yeah yeah
like you said
about being basic
but it is
yeah it's amazing
more than
it's a bit of
It's amazing.
It's like America.
And especially, going through those,
generational, all those women together in one room.
Honestly, it's just like, so there's we own and I was like, oh my God, so I like start crying.
Because I'm like, I'm at a mental state where like, if I got pregnant now,
I think I would still be like, I think MTV want to make a documentary about teen mom.
Like I'm like not like there at all.
So it was just so.
So then I go to bed and I was like, I've got to see us in the morning.
So then six o'clock in the morning, the door swings open and I jump up and I was like, oh my God, tea.
And she was like, you need to.
to take Owen, I got to bring Brendan to hospital.
And I was like, what?
So she has this like newborn, right?
So like, apart from my dad's kids, I hadn't really been around like a tiny, tiny baby.
Yeah, yeah.
So she puts him in the bed.
And I'm like, and I'm like, Tierna.
And she's like, so Brendan's gallstones had to be removed.
That was the thing.
So she was like, I have to go.
And they live really far away.
And I was like, what will I do?
And she was like, Google it.
Fair.
And I was like, oh.
We're living in an age where you can look that show up.
So then she leaves and I'm in the double bed.
And Owen is there.
I just was looking at him and I was like
oh my god
like I'm sure you had it about your own kids
I mean yeah
you're like look at your nose
yeah teeth or teeth as if
yeah look at your teeth
look at your teeth
look at your teeth
yeah everything was like
and he smelled
oh they smell amazing
yeah yeah yeah oh my god
just a fleshy
a fleshy thing that came out of
flesh
and then it seems like
every time you know you breathe
in and out
between the and out it was like
oh my god he's not breathing
I couldn't stop
I was like, is he breathing?
I don't think he's...
I was, it was the best day.
So I was like, right, I ran my mom and I was like,
tear out, I was like, can you come out?
And she's like, I have to work.
And I was like, well, I have Owen.
And she was like, you'll be fine, Kyla.
And I am very maternal.
Like, I'm fine, but, like, holding him and touching him and stuff.
But you just got to hang out with him all day.
Yeah, you can't leave him anywhere.
So I was going to toilet and putting him in the thing.
And then I was doing yoga and I put him up in the trick track,
3000, this fucking thing I bought him.
I don't even know what it's called.
it's like a high chair that you adjust as he gets older
and I just spent all day
just minding him and burping him
and even when he burp up and I was like
everything he'd done I was like
you are the most incredible little boy
and then... What a bonding day
oh my God but I reckon so even now
he'll like he's not affectionate
he loves his own space so like if you put him on
his lack now like he doesn't like being up in your lap
or like cuddling into like he likes it next year
like he sit here now and listen to us talk
but he wouldn't be up trying to like touch you and thing
but with me he's super affectionate
And I reckon it's because of that day.
I reckon they're like a bond with him or something.
And now he's starting to talk.
And like even that.
Oh, my.
That's great when they start gabbling.
Oh, my.
And his personality.
Like he's your nanny.
There's some of that age.
There was a kid on the train on the way here today.
This dad came on the tube with his kid that sort of age.
Toddlery, big baby, but not quite walking.
Yeah, yeah.
And he had a stick.
You see all the kids now in the buggies with the devices.
You don't see many kids with a stick.
He just had a stick
And he was like looking at me
And I was like
A stick
And he was like a stick
And he was like a little
Connection with a little person like that
We just had a little facial chat
That's lovely
It's so cute
These are like extremely important moments
It just puts things in perspective
Doesn't it?
Totally
It keeps things the right sides
Children always give perspectives
Yeah
And the more you love them
The more perspective you get
Because you think
Whatever happens
As long as you're okay
I'm going to be fine
Oh totally
Like I look at Owen do anything
And I just like
Oh my God I would kill for you
Yeah
Yeah
Like it's just overwhelming sensation
Of like I just can't even imagine my
I just he is
And obviously with Tiren as well as spot us
So like watching her become a mother
Wow
Wow really
Oh just incredible
She's so good
Like I always think like
I ring my mom and I'm like
Or even when I was younger
I'm like what time is that post office open
Where's my white house
And I'm like where am I going to get all this information
Does it like click when you become on
And like watching Tare I'm like
Oh yeah it just happens
You can just do it
Because these are the things in life
that are actually real
and that's why
when we go back to social media
and worrying about it
and thinking about it
how many likes you get
it's not real
it's not real
it's none of it is real
it's only as important
as the importance you give it
so you focus on your stuff
and the rest will follow
do you know what I mean
like it's just
and I see that in my own family
the women around me
I'm like I just need to keep showing up
as my best self
and then whatever the fuck happens
after I'm in
you know
Christ man there's no wonder
there's a following
you've created a community
I'm actually in
this is a call
this is a call
and I'm in
Where do I sign up?
I'm in.
There's an appetite for it for sure.
That authentic,
they're fibrillic is.
And women in particular want that from the women that they love.
And like, you know, you can see that with celebrity.
Yeah.
I feel like that is on the way in terms of what people want from.
They're waking up.
Yeah.
Working up.
And I'm not going to look like this and I'm not going to wear that
and I'm not going to think that.
And I'm not going to measure my worth.
on that.
No, exactly.
And it's so hard to do that
because it's like,
obviously there's a
multi-billion dollar industry
telling you you're not good enough.
But now I think,
as you said,
this little wave of people being like,
hold on to fuck.
Yeah.
And then that's the beauty of it.
This has been great.
I've loved it.
It's been lovely.
Thank you so much.
Great pictures.
Great.
And before we go,
are you promoting a tour?
So I am touring the U.S.
UK gone rogue. It's selling really well. The only place
where it's not selling is Lester. Lester.
Lester. Lester. Lester's always tricky, man.
Lester. Yeah, Lester. Please.
And Southampton, I think, there's a few tickets left. And then I'm doing a bigger show
in Manchester in Salford. So that would be great if...
Oh, the Lowry? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And where do people find info?
Kyla Cobbler.com.
Go and see it. Go and see.
Can we come. Where are you doing in London?
Soho, come.
I'd love to come. Yeah. It's very fun show.
It's very fun show. Tonight until Saturday.
And then I'm doing Let's Just Square Theatre.
I'm doing Ali Pally in February.
Come to Ali.
That'll be crack.
February.
Amen.
20th.
Amazing.
