Memory Lane with Kerry Godliman and Jen Brister - S04 E36 Jen & Kerry's Christmas Breakdown

Episode Date: December 17, 2025

"It's such a bleak picture... My mum looks suicidal..." Jen and Kerry discuss all things Christmas and look back to their childhood festive celebrations. Plus Kerry has a plate with her face on it...... That ISN'T HER! JEN'S STAND UP TOUR Jen's 2025 tour is on sale now - ⁠⁠https://www.jenbrister.co.uk/tour/⁠⁠ PICS & MORE - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/memory_lane_podcast/⁠⁠A Dot Dot Dot Production produced by Joel PorterHosted by Jen Brister & Kerry Godliman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to Memory Lane. I'm Jen Bristair. And I'm Kerry Godleman. Each week we'll be taking a trip down Memory Lane with our very special guest as they bring in four photos from their lives to talk about. To check out the photos we'd be having a natter with them about, they're on the episode image and you can also see them a little bit more clearly on our Instagram page. So have a little look at Memory Lane podcast. Come on, we can all be nosy together. I don't know what you think about these glasses, but I love them. What glasses? What I see what you did? You see what I did. That was really clever. Are you...
Starting point is 00:00:39 Oh my god, she's fine. Are you feeling Christmasy? These are making me feel Christmasy. What are? I did it again. Oh my god, it's of all of three. It's going to happen. It's going to happen for the third time.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Here it comes. Jen, why don't you wear those Christmas glasses? What Christmas glasses? Hey! Hey! Am I in the Christmas mood? I'm... You know, I think, yet again, it's come around six months too early.
Starting point is 00:01:04 We could have done with another six months before. This is where, I have said this before, I will say it again. Once every two years? Four. I'd say, let's go World Cup. Once every four years. And then, can you imagine the Christmas expegantza? Be like the World Cup?
Starting point is 00:01:17 Yeah. Yeah. You'd be like, oh my God. We're on for a Christmas this year. We start Christmas in October. Yeah. But proper. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Be like the Olympics. Three months of Christmas. It should be like the Olympics. Once every four years. Yeah. I agree with this. And then you'd spend three years sort of remembering, two years remembering the last one and two years planning the next one. Yeah. And you'd need like that year after you, be like, we can't do that again for a while because that was, that was insane.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Yeah, it's a big deal. I turned into a pie. A mince pie. Do you like mint pies? Do you make, do you make Christmassy food? Well, I very much am involved in Christmas in every conceivable way, but in the actual organisation, I tend to take a backseat. Well, what a direct contradiction state. What hell? Look, you said, maybe you said the beginning of that statement and the end, directly contradicted itself. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:02:06 But that's very much how my relationship with Chloe is. I want to do more, but she's very much like, I'd like you to do this, but there's a list, and I can only do what's on the list. If I veer from that list, then...
Starting point is 00:02:19 Trouble. There's trouble in paradise. Mm. Yeah? I like a mince pie. Oh, I like a mince pie. And I can really indulge in a mince pie, and I will happily make a mince pie.
Starting point is 00:02:26 What's your Christmas tipple? Oh, um, red wine. That's funny because that's your all year around to. Drumbeouie. Really? No, of course not. I don't even know what Drambeou is.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I know people that like have their what's your cocktail this year and they'll do a cocktail like a different one every year. Do you know what? Last year because I said to my brother, I love a martini, which I do with a twist, as in case you're asking. And which you did, so I have. So he bought me. He bought me a really expensive.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Then he bought me a really expensive vermouth. Then he bought me two really expensive martini glasses. And he went, Jen, this is going to be your Christmas tipple. You're welcome Merry Christmas. And I said, Stephen, that is such a great present. Thank you. And I loved opening it. And I loved it. And I looked at it. And I went, wow. Think of all the martinis I'm going to have and have so many. Can't wait. Anyway, we haven't had a single martini yet. Why? I don't know. It's a bit weird having a martini at home on your own, isn't it? Because you associate it with being out. Yeah, martini is what you do when you go out. When you're out of your house, you go, hmm, with these martinis, you're spoiling me. You could develop a new persona where you're just
Starting point is 00:03:40 staying and get shit-faced on. I think there's something, it's a step too far, isn't it, at home, making himself a martini. Could be the new you. 2026. I know, but the new me is very close to alcoholism. She became a drunk. She just doesn't go out now. Jen doesn't go out. She just stays at home. She makes her my martinis, yeah. And if you call her, she's like,
Starting point is 00:04:01 I tell you what? It's a problem, join me. I'm having a martini. It's like, when are you not having a martini, Jen? Exactly. Also, it's a little bit too close to COVID experience, which was me making Nogronis at 3pm. I don't think I want to go back to that.
Starting point is 00:04:22 What's your favourite Christmas song? Whoa, we're going deep here with the Christmas. Oh, this is Christmas Hill is. list. Christmas, favourite song, favourite film, favourite cocktail. Christmas, go. Okay, Chris Ria driving home for Christmas. No way. Why are you, don't, oh it's awful. Driving home for Christmas. It's a dirge. No, I'm really shocked at you. What, um, okay. What about the Spanish one? What do you mean the Spanish one? The Phil, dez, Feliz, na Vida. That one. Did, did, did, did.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Surely? Yeah, it's fine. Wow. Okay. I'm really shocked. Why are you shocked by that? Because it's probably my least favourite Christmas song. Alright, what's your favourite Christmas song?
Starting point is 00:05:08 Well, now I feel like I'm setting myself up for a kicking. Come on. I can't wait. It's quite fluid my favourite Christmas song. I've got quite a few. I do like Fairy Tale of New York. Okay, yeah. I like that one.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I know recently had some... Faggot. Yeah. No, sure. That's, we've all moved on from that. But I love the song. You love the song. I love Kirstie McCall's in it.
Starting point is 00:05:30 I love Kirstie McCall. I love Shane McGowan. Yeah. I love Shane McGowan. So I love Ferry Tell of New York. I love Elvis's Blue Christmas. Whatever Blue Christmas without you. Okay, shut it down.
Starting point is 00:05:55 All right, okay, I hate that song. You said that mine was dutch. Kerry, that is terrible. Kerry, that is terrible. It's the game. I just gave you driving home for Christmas. No. Blue.
Starting point is 00:06:11 And I like Elton John. Oh yeah. My other friends. Yeah, I like that one. My other friend. Elton John. Oh, is this what this is? It's just a coincidence.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Right, yeah, my friend. I'm bringing back Vickrish's club singer. Stair, Bikwma, Stah, Bittemur, Bha, Bha, Bha. You don't have to play rights if I don't get the words right. No. Well, not if you're like scatting along. What else? I like song is Kridmer.
Starting point is 00:06:51 John Lennon. Oh yeah. That's a bit dirty. What have you done? That actually always depresses me. Yeah, sad. I'm like, what have you done? I don't know, John.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Stop putting so much pressure on me. It's been a tricky year. Yeah. Oh, okay, that brings up a lot. Or I tell you the other one, I can't tell one ever hear. Go on. Wizard. Which one's that one?
Starting point is 00:07:10 I wish it could be Christmas every day, no. If I've just promoted, let's do it every four years, I don't want to hear a band saying let's do it every day. No, I don't want it every day. Don't want that. Can you think of anything worse? Can't think of anything worse. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:07:22 What about, what about? What about Mariah? Mariah. Yeah. Which one's that? I can't believe. Just remind me. Just don't remember.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Mariah Carey's song goes, um, uh... I was listening to it literally today. I was listening to it today. Oh my God. Oh shit. I was literally listening to it today. Today was the day. Right, I'm going to Google it.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Oh my God. What? Oh my God. What the hell? Okay, wait a second. If I get the title, I'll be, I'll know it. All I want. All I want.
Starting point is 00:07:53 For Christmas is you. Diggoo-d-d-d-d-z-g-z-g-g-z-g-g-z-g-g-g-d-k-g-g-k-g-g-k-g-k-k-k-k-ch-k-ch-k-a-ch-k-a-oh-oh-oh-oh-wwoh-doh. I don't want a bit of boobbley can come in, but I don't want, you can have too much booblet. You can. And I think once you're heading in towards a Christmas album of boobley out, you can't. Bouble, you've got to shut it down. But what about if it's just like a kind of a very, like a rich truffle? So you go, I have boubley, I listen to it once. And then boobled out.
Starting point is 00:08:33 And then booblet's over. Yeah, booblet's over. And you pick your booblet moment. Yeah. And also, I don't want every booblet song, okay? No, I don't want every Christmas song by booblet. Just pick the booblet song that you like. Play the booblet song.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Enjoy the melody. His dulcet tones. Yeah. Shut it down. Yeah. Yeah. What about... Okay, here's a question
Starting point is 00:08:55 and this is controversial. This came up and somebody got very angry with me if you were going to pick Frank Sinatra Michael Bublae, who would it be? I'd probably go Sinatra. I went Bublae and this person I swear to God, I think they were going to kill me. Why did you go Boubleau?
Starting point is 00:09:13 Because I like Boubley. But Franks... Franks... Sure, but I've gone for Boubley. Also Frank sounds like he was a bit of a knobber And Bubele is I think was a lovely guy. Is Bubla nice? I think so. You've just gone with the vibes.
Starting point is 00:09:26 I've just gone with the vibes. I don't need any more misogynistic men talking to me. No fair. So I had to get rid of snartre. Favorite Christmas film? Uncle Buck. Is it? I've never seen Uncle Buck.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Hang on. Have I? I don't know. Have you? Well, my memory's so awful. Even if I have, it's like watching things for the first time. I'm pretty sure it's set around Christmas, or maybe it's Thanksgiving. Maybe you're getting John Candy mixed up with Home Alone when he's in Home Alone, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:09:58 John Candy's in Home Alone. Yes, he is. Oh, he's briefly. He's in the van. Not briefly, all the way through, in fact. What? He's in the van with the mum, Catherine O'Hara. Oh yes, he's in the van with Catherine O'Hara, that's right.
Starting point is 00:10:12 I don't know why this is the hand gesture for a van. The Acapella group. That's right. Yeah. No, I'm not thinking of that. I'm thinking of Uncle Buck. Is that Christmas? I think it's set around Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Maybe it's not Christmas movies. I always have said... Well, this is a tenuous favourite Christmas film, isn't it? You don't even know if it's Christmassy. What? It is Christmas. It's snowing and they've got lights up. I think it's Christmas.
Starting point is 00:10:33 You're thinking of Home Alone? No, I'm not thinking of Home Alone. You just described Home Alone? No. It's Christmas in they've got lights up. That's every Christmas movie. You're not bent. Uncle Buck.
Starting point is 00:10:45 All right, that's your favourite Christmas film and you're not 100% sure. Yeah. You're sticking with that. Yeah. You haven't got any other favourites? No. Okay, elf, thoughts?
Starting point is 00:10:58 Oh yeah, yeah, I'll follow that, yeah. It's a wonderful life. That's classic. Yeah. Doesn't pass the Bechamel test, though? No, none of these do. That's not the Bechamel test. Would you, for a laugh, would you ever do a Christmas song?
Starting point is 00:11:15 Well, you've heard me sing. Yeah. So, probably not. Right. I mean, I can't sing. No, and lots of people do Christmas songs, can't sing. Well, you mean a cover of a classic or write one? No, I'm not going to write one, are you? Why not?
Starting point is 00:11:30 You can't write a Christmas song. Okay. Lyrics-wise. Yeah, but musically. Musically, I don't have those skills. No, okay. Would you? No, God, God, no. Why not?
Starting point is 00:11:42 I can't sing and I can't hold a note, and I can't play a musical instrument. Okay, so, yeah, it's outside of our school. Well, I would do it with you. Oh, all right, okay. Well, we'll do it for it. next Christmas? Yeah, let's do one. We'll write a Christmas hole. That's going to be a hit. That'll be Christmas number one. Jen and Kerry, Kerry and Jen, singing, have yourself. No, because that's a classic. Okay, all right, we've got to write the original. What do you feel about
Starting point is 00:12:06 last Christmas? I gave you my heart, but the very next day. Love it. Yeah, it's a good one. I tell you what, I don't ever want to hear again. Go on. And it's, this is Chloe's number one favorite Christmas song, okay? Oh, live aid. Yeah, that's problematic. It hasn't aged well, that one. No. And it's her favourite. I think it's one of her favours.
Starting point is 00:12:26 It's because it reminds us of being kids. It reminds me. We are that age, aren't we? I mean, what's really sad is I sort of, I feel like was I alive when that Slade one came out? I think I might have been. Yeah. We were kids, weren't we? Yeah, you would have been at four or something.
Starting point is 00:12:39 You were very alive. I was alive. I was alive. I was so sorry to tell you this, but you were alive. Yeah, I was alive. In the 70s. I know. You were a human being that existed in the world, running around, running around.
Starting point is 00:12:50 around breathing air existing how old with a conscience you conscious conscious i was conscious you were very old well i was a child but still do you remember 70s christmases i god no i mean i was born in 75 so i don't really it doesn't make you that much younger than me so pipe down i am pipe down pretty much a different generation yeah you're almost a millennial you're almost a millennial Have you got any photos of 70s Christmases? Oh, no. I can't find any old ones. I just found what was in my phone, so none of mine are old.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I mean, I've got a picture of me with my, I think it's me. I think it's my whole family. Maybe my dad can't have been in the picture because he must have been taking the photographs. We've been my brothers and my mum, and we were at Pontins. At Christmas time? Yeah, we went to Ponties at Christmas. and I remember it being just really fun and magical. It was very cold.
Starting point is 00:13:53 There was no central heating in the chalet. So you could see your own... I remember being able to see our own breath. We had to wear a hat and gloves and the scarf in bed. And it was like when you got into bed, it felt wet because it was so cold. But it was Christmas, so we're excited. None of this is feeling Christmassy. A wet bed.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Yeah, you know what it's so cold? The sheets feel damp. Anyway... And you paid for this experience? Oh God. This was what point. Montens was. So we went to that. I didn't know it was a Christmas thing. Oh God, it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:14:21 There was no, there was, I don't think there was anything to do. Anyway, my mum said it was categorically the worst Christmas of her entire life. I mean, yeah, but you were a child. Oh, we loved it. Yeah. I've got a picture of me and my brothers at Pontins and that would have been like either very early 80s or very late 70s. And that's what, wow. And it's like a chintzy picture. I really want to see it.
Starting point is 00:14:42 It's the bleakest thing you've ever seen. I love bleak Christmas phone. So it's such a bleak picture. And honestly, we're all like this. My mum looks like she's suicidal. I know. It's only when you become a mum that you look back on your mum's Christmas. Oh, I think my mum's entire life with our four children and my dad, who was utterly useless, was grim.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Christmas is hard for men. I just think, I don't know how she did it. I don't know how she did it. I think she did it because she loved seeing us enjoy ourselves, but she kind of enjoyed it. Did she like Christmas? Yeah, she did. She loved Christmas. And she made it really Christmassy.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Oh my God. Have you ever looked back at the way your parents decorated the house at Christmas in the 70s and 80s? Yeah. Mental. It wasn't. Oh, I suppose everyone put tints on and everything, didn't they? Tintz on everywhere. Yeah, that was a thing.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I was looking at our house was like, it was like an explosion of tinsel. Yes. And do you remember those things that went across the ceiling? Those things that you stripped across and you pulled across. Yes. You don't get them anymore. No, there was a picture of our living room and it's just like, like, like, you know, Yes, people made their houses into grand-house.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And also because my mum let us decorate it. So it was an absolute catastrophe. Red and gold, silver and green and blue. That's very 70s, 80s. Oh my God, very. God, that's gone. Bring it back. Yeah, bring it back.
Starting point is 00:16:01 But now, Chloe would never allow it because of the aesthetic. Yeah, but the kitsch. I mean, she might let some kitchen. No, it would have to go full maximalist kits. And then we're entering into something different. I say, do it. Should we do it? Yeah, let's bring it back.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I'd love to bring it back. The kids would love it. You're right. It was a different aesthetic. And also like the Christmas tree would have always coloured lights. When they become not coloured lights? You had coloured lights. Everyone had coloured lights. Only. You tried to buy coloured lights. You can't find them now. We've got coloured lights.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I love coloured lights. But we had to juxtapose those with warm lights. Chloe's like, we can't just have coloured lights. We're not those people. I went, we are. I'd love to be those people. That's how we grew up. I want to be those people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Do you remember the little lights with the little, like, the little plastic. coating around the light itself. Also, it was bold. Yes! Yeah. They were proper bulbs. And if one went, the whole thing went, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it was on like one circuit. Yeah. You got a wreath? Yeah, we got a wreath. Yeah, we got a wreath. Did you make your wreath? No, Chloe did make a wreath, but not this year. We haven't made a wreath this year, but she loves a wreath. I made. Did you always make a wreath, don't you?
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah, make it with local ladies. Do you? Yeah, we have our wreath making thing. What means you do that? Did it last Sunday. Fucking hell. That's wild. I feel quite smuggle about it.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I don't know if that's coming over. Yeah, it is actually. I don't think you've made it. Can you make your wreath? I made my wreath. Yeah, there's a lot of that. There's a lot of that coming from you actually. I have not, you know I don't craft,
Starting point is 00:17:38 and I feel like you hold that over me quite a bit. Yeah. Yeah. We should. Oh, I made you, I crafted it. Look, I made her a bracelet. I like crafting. Also you live with another crafter because I know Chloe is a crafter. She's a real crafter. I love a crafty. She can't craft at the moment. Oh yeah, no,
Starting point is 00:17:54 she's broken her wrist. She's broken her wrist. Yeah. And that will hold up a crafting project. Well, that's held up. That's what we've realised that's going to hold up, Kerry, is that she's broken her wrist just before Christmas. So you're crafting? I am crafting. I'm going to be doing all of the wrapping the presents. And it turns out cooking, Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. You've got a lot going on. Yeah. Are you a proper traditional Christmas dinner, or do you deviate? No.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Have you ever deviated? I literally never not deviate. Oh, you always deviate? Yeah. What do you make? Are we going to make roast this time? Oh, okay, but you have a roast. You don't make a curry.
Starting point is 00:18:31 No, we haven't done that. You just changed as a different meat, but you're doing a roast. That is a deviation. I've deviated right off. What are you deviated to? No, I mean, I mostly do a roast since we had kids, but in the past. What have you done? I've happily done a curry on Christmas day.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Yeah. Have you ever been a little bit of a roast. away at Christmas that's yeah I love that that's why I say not with the children but pre-kids
Starting point is 00:18:52 I realise now with kids that's it now you're stuffed you have to do it at home they hate change they don't like they like a trad Christmas kids like a trad Christmas
Starting point is 00:19:03 and if you start trying to go oh we're going to go to on the broad and where it's warm they're going to be like why are we doing that why we're doing that no they don't want it
Starting point is 00:19:09 they just want to be at home I want that yeah but you can have that now your kids are grown up no they still want a trad Christmas. How dare they? Well, she's come home for Christmas like Chris Ria. That's why
Starting point is 00:19:21 you don't like that song. Yeah. She's driven She's driving on for Christmas. I'm coming home. Get the trad shit to get going. That's nice though. Yeah, it's nice. It's nice. I I'm, well, I was going to say I'm going to try, no, I'm not going to be mean. Okay, start
Starting point is 00:19:37 again. I am. I love loud speaker on Jen. I love it. I'm not going to be me. I'm not going to be me. I am actually Do you know what? I am really enjoying being the person in the house that does everything and it is something that I am learning to really appreciate. Jen, say it like you mean it. I am. That is like that is, that is, that may sound robotic. She might not be enjoying. She's not. She's a control freak. Yes, she likes doing stuff. She's looking at me with anger. I wouldn't like, I'm quite capable with that other hand. Well, it turns out you do need two hands for almost everything. That can't be entirely true
Starting point is 00:20:16 Well, she's made it true She's made it fact Okay So she can't drive Oh gosh she can't drive Oh that's the other thing She can't drive She can't craft
Starting point is 00:20:23 She can't launder Is that word? No she can't launder She can't pick up the laundry No No What can you do Well you can stand
Starting point is 00:20:32 You can stand next to your partner And tell them what to do Yeah She's been very good at that She's good at project management Every time I'm about to leave the house Have you done the thing With the what's it
Starting point is 00:20:41 I'm like I've done everything How are you coping with that I'm coping with it really well. Okay. And I feel like it's going to... Nice for you to be in service for the season. I am always in service. Also, your boys are older now, so you could do some really good delegation.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I am. I don't know if you've ever delegated to 11-year-olds, so I'm really open to it. They're really receptive. I said to them, what about you empty the dishwasher while I do this? Oh, God. Oh, God. I'm like, what the hell? I literally asked you to do one thing this week. I realize Frank can't fold.
Starting point is 00:21:13 He literally, like, I've taught him to fold. I say shoulder to shoulder, da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And he's like, he can't do it. It's like being on the generation game. What you've got to do is you've got to say, here are three t-shirts. You're going to fold them up. And if you don't fold them correctly, this is what my mum used to do. You're going to do them again until you've done it correctly.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I've tried to be, and I've done dinner is for dinner, and they don't like it. They don't, they don't respond. They don't, they don't think my mum could do anything else. She wasn't very flexible with, okay, let's hear your opinion, tell me how you are feeling. Okay, you tell me this. Now, I explained you how I am feeling. She was like, you're doing like this or you get out. And there was no...
Starting point is 00:21:55 But that's retro parenting, in it? There was no, yeah, there was no compromise. It was her way or the highway. It wasn't feeling led. It wasn't child led. It was not feeling led. No. Mom, I don't really feel...
Starting point is 00:22:07 I don't care how you feel. And four kids. I don't care how you feel. Fair. Yeah, which is fair. Yeah. So we are going to introduce chores Because what I don't want
Starting point is 00:22:16 Because for a long time I don't think one of my sons knows how to use a knife No, I'm explaining to think I said you don't want to be an entitled brat Let's learn to fold You've got a fold And I said to them we're going to learn to cook soon You're going to be cooking
Starting point is 00:22:29 So that when you leave home and how to cook You know how to use a washing machine And you are not a burden to the woman That you spend the rest of your life with Or the man or the person that hasn't identified as either Whatever You will be You can jump at
Starting point is 00:22:42 Onion! You can chop a... Kenanion. Yeah, fair. Oh, Molly is a puppy with a Christmas tree in the background. So that was... Oh my God, Molly is grey. I didn't even realise she was, she's gone grey. Yes, she's an old lady now.
Starting point is 00:23:03 That is baby Molly, puppy Molly. And we did the thing that you're not meant to do, which is buy a puppy for Christmas. And there's been no regrets. No, no regrets. None. Wasn't there a joke? Who was that, Phil Ellis joke, when he said, don't get your kid a puppy for Christmas
Starting point is 00:23:20 because it'll die in their A-levels. And we did exactly the... He said, no, don't get your seven-year-old a puppy for Christmas, it'll die in their A-levels. Right. Anyway, that's a little picture of Elsie and her puppy, her Christmas puppy. And she has stayed alive.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And she has stayed alive. And she has stayed alive through the A-level. But might not make Franks. Might not make Franks A-Levels. But essentially, she was Elsie's dog. Elsie pested hard for a dog. She campaigned hard. And she got a little puppy.
Starting point is 00:23:54 That's cute. And there's a little Christmas tree in the background. Poor Ben, I was working when he was puppy training. You're away for a lot of these things. Key moments. Key moments that Ben has to deal with. You're pissed me absent. When he trod in the dog shit and shouted at the kids,
Starting point is 00:24:09 I'm taking it back! We're like, no! I wasn't there. I wasn't around. But yes, that's a good Christmas picture. Here's a good one. This is my dad with a hat on. That is a great picture of your dad. And the reason, no, it just captures my dad. It's quite deadpan. And secondly, it's the thing on his head, which is a game. So there's hoops to throw on it. Oh, you get to throw stuff at your dad. I was going to say to you, do you have games that you play at Christmas? We, I mean, we've got, we've got loads of games. Would that be a hit in your house?
Starting point is 00:24:51 I think that would be an absolute hit. Especially if I was wearing it. Yeah, that with massive antlers and then your boys throwing hoops out of you. Yeah, they'd love that. They would love that. I think we've got something called Hot Dog versus Banana. I think I might have made that up. Well, if you have made it up, you should make it, patent it.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Yeah, it should be. Something like that, yeah. Did you see that picture I put on our thing? The plate? No. Right. So this plate, I saw it in a junk shop, it's a Christmas plate from 1983. It's my face!
Starting point is 00:25:25 Jen! Jesus Christ! It's like a ghost! That's... What the hell? It's like I'm in the plate. What the... It's me!
Starting point is 00:25:35 Why is this here? It's a child... Me. It's a child you. Yes. It's weird. Isn't it? It's like a ghostly weird thing.
Starting point is 00:25:44 That's my face, isn't it? That is weird though. Where did this plate come from? I don't know. I saw it in a junk shop, but it said... It's Christmas 1983. Yeah. That...
Starting point is 00:25:54 How old were you? Ten. This kid is a little bit younger. I know, but you're splitting hairs. Essentially, that is my face. That is so weird. That is my child face. Kerry, that's creepy.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Isn't that the creepiest thing? That is the weirdest thing. That is the weirdest thing. Where is this plate? It was in a junk shop in Crystal Palace. Well, did you buy it? No. I just don't buy the plate.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Of your face? I don't want my ghost child form in a plate. Oh my God, I would have bought it. How much was it? I can't remember. Go back and get it. It was last year. No one, no.
Starting point is 00:26:21 No one's bought it. I can tell you no one's bought it. I mean, isn't it weird? Isn't it weird? It's so 80s as well. This is so 80s. I love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:31 That would have been, I tell you what is really evocative for me about the 80s Christmasiness. What? The Snowman. Oh my God. That was my childhood Christmas. Wait, okay. And I'm not saying my children are robots, but can I just say? And I know all of my emotions are very much on the surface, even when I was a child.
Starting point is 00:26:49 I, that film devastated me when I was a kid. I watched that film and then the snowman is no more. He melted, he melted, he's melted, he's melted. They go on this magical journey. They go on this incredible experience. They share so much. And then at the end, he melts. He's dead.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Yeah, he's dead. He's dead. He's not coming back. He's a dead snowman. That's it. It's over for him. And they were just, I feel nothing. And I looked at my kids and I went, I'm. I'm welling up.
Starting point is 00:27:12 I'm looking over, I mean, Chloe's a robot, there's nothing happening there. I'm looking over at the children going, at some point, they're going to be, they're like that. Like you would say, Easter Island. Nothing. I mean, children, how did that make you feel?
Starting point is 00:27:24 Yeah, it was really good, mum. I'm like, did you feel nothing for the snowman? Can go the other way, because my friend showed it to her three-year-old and she was irreparably devastated. Immated! That's what I wanted. Yeah, well.
Starting point is 00:27:38 I really wanted that. I was like, come on, film some. What are you feeling? Do you want me to sing we're walking in the air? No, because that... Given you know my vocal skills. I will be crying, but for very different reasons. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Very different reasons. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um, the snowman, when I was a kid, we had a really good... I think it might have been Royal Dalton. It was... Hey!
Starting point is 00:28:05 No, snowman, musical... We're walking in the... Allard Jones, and it wasn't Aller Jones. And it was the music and he turned and he wasn't melted. He was porcelain, Royal Dalton, Snowman. Wow. Do you know what? I hope he didn't sound quite like that.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Did it need to oiling or something? The people down below are sleeping as we. Allard, is that you? Fly. You're welcome. That was great. That was great. That was number one. For about seven years. About seven years. About like seven years.
Starting point is 00:28:48 It was huge. When we were kids, the snowman was huge. It couldn't have been bigger. Yeah. It was bigger than Slay. Bigger than McCartney. Yeah. And it was beautiful. It was a really beautiful. Raymond Briggs. And it was Brighton. They went over the... Over Brighton. Honestly. Yeah. Oh no. I said that's my children. I said we're going over one. I was like, that's Brighton. The Stapans over our house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Then they got it. No, they did. They got inside about that. They were like, where's the snowman? I was like, it's probably over our house now. Yeah. Yeah, you got it. They loved it. But then at the end, dead. Nothing. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Don't care. What next? Yeah. He's a really disappointing. I mean, have you? Have you ever tried to share any of your childhood experiences? Like, any of your childhood, like, oh, when I was a child, we used to do this. And then when I was a child, this was one of my favorite shows, and they're like, it's terrible.
Starting point is 00:29:39 It's shit. I made them watch the Goonies because I said it's one of the best films you'll ever see in your life you do have to be careful when you're like well one it hasn't aged particularly well and two I watched it back and thought this is crap
Starting point is 00:29:51 some things age brilliantly and some things don't and the Goonies unfortunately might be The Goonies have not aged well but that was my favourite film Yeah I love the Goonies Yeah I made them watch Raiders of the Lost Dark Is that age well Well when they were really little
Starting point is 00:30:04 And then there's a bit There's quite a lot of scary bit And then a man's face basically is like bladed off. Oh, the melting. Mr. Jans! That bit, yeah. Kids are annoying. This is a moment of like, oh, you idiots.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Was when we drove past Stonehenge and they wouldn't get off Minecraft. So they will look at blocks in a computer form, but not ancient stones. No, look, Stonehenge, sure. And just Minecraft. Like, wow. Okay. Children are idiots. Children are idiots, but we make them into idiots.

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