Mick Unplugged - Block the BS: Mastering Peace and Purpose with Wallo267
Episode Date: June 18, 2026Winning ain't for everybody because people aren't willing to put in the work and discipline.Mick Hunt welcomes entrepreneur and content creator Wallo267 (Wallace Peeples) to discuss self-mast...ery, strategic decision-making, and why peace of mind should be your ultimate goal. This episode challenges traditional notions of success and offers insights on living authentically.WHAT YOU'LL LEARN- The critical role of "no" in personal growth- How 5-10 "yeses" can change your life- Why peace of mind matters more than loyalty- Understanding the biggest business in the world: fear- The importance of auditing your inner circleQUOTES THAT HIT"I started committing crimes because I wanted to be accepted by some people that I thought was cool, that was followers themselves." - Wallo267 (Wallace Peeples)"Nothing supersede a good nap. That good recharge when you go to sleep." - Wallo267 (Wallace Peeples)"You gotta have people around that understand you're crazy and believe me you're crazy." - Wallo267 (Wallace Peeples)CHAPTERS00:00 The Push to Help02:06 Discovering Your Calling Later in Life04:33 Letting Go of Old Beliefs06:56 The Importance of Peace11:09 Health is Wealth15:16 Why Winning Ain't for Everybody19:38 Block Out the Bullshit and Fear21:36 Auditing Your Circle and Relationships28:47 No is a Complete Sentence32:07 The Power of a Few Key Yeses34:22 Yes to You, No to Them36:01 The Life-Changing Rooms41:50 Rapid Fire: Unplugged FiveQUESTIONS THIS EPISODE ANSWERSQ: How does saying "no" impact one's life and personal development?A: Saying "no" transforms your life, even if it brings initial bickering. Establishing "no" early helps younger people, changing everything for them.Q: What is Wallo267's perspective on "winning ain't for everybody"?A: Wallo267 believes winning isn't for everyone because it requires significant discipline and work that many are unwilling to put in. Successful people often seek the "boring" monotony of consistent effort.Q: How can listeners connect with Wallo267's new book and community initiatives?A: Listeners can get Wallo267's book, "Yes to You, No to Them," through Amazon.com and other major booksellers. They can join a social media movement starting July 16th to discuss weekly passages and share what the book means to them.Connect & Discover Wallo267 (Wallace Peeples):Instagram: @wallo267LinkedIn: @wallce-peoplesYouTube: @wallo267TikTok: @wallo267X: @Wallo267Facebook: @whereswalloBook: Yes to You, No to Them: The Discipline of Saying No and the Freedom that FollowsBrand: arplnsnhotls.comFOLLOW MICK ON:Spotify: MickUnpluggedInstagram: @mickunplugged Facebook: @mickunpluggedYouTube: @MickUnpluggedPodcast LinkedIn: @mickhunt Website: MickHuntOfficial.comWebsite: howtobeagoodleader.comWebsite: Leadloudseries.comApple: MickUnpluggedSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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I started committing crimes because I want to be accepted by some people that I thought was cool, that was followers themselves.
So we all just followers in this big following pool and we're all trying to impress each other.
And we don't even know what we're doing.
But we're willing to risk our lives to be accepted by some people that don't even accept themselves.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Mick Unplugged.
And today I'm sitting down with a certified beast.
I'm talking about someone who's changed my life through his words and to now meet him in person, the energy that he's.
has. I know why every rapper is in his DMs. Every business person is in his DMs. He is none other
than the king himself, Mr. Wallow, 267. Mick, I just want to let you know, man, listen, same thing
you say about me. I can say about you, great things. You're a legendary speaker. Top. Now, globally
in the world, top podcaster. He went to top 10. You know what I mean? You're that guy. So I'm just
thankful that you even allow me to be a part of your platform, you know?
I'm the honored one.
Like I was telling you when I got here, man,
like when my team said,
Wallo wants you, I said, me?
Damn.
I got to go to him.
I appreciate that.
And you blessed me to be here in the studio,
wearing airplanes and hotels.
Appreciate that, yes.
They feel comfortable indeed.
These might be the best shoes on the market.
Damn, I appreciate that.
If you know, you know.
Thank you.
If you know, you know.
Wallo, man.
Again, honored to have you.
Honored to be with you.
You know, I start every episode asking my guest
about their because, right? That thing that's deeper than your why. Simon Seneca taught us to start
with why, but I believe your true purpose is your because, right? If I were to ask you what's your
why? And then I say, but why? That sentence usually starts with well because. And I care about
that moment, that well because moment. So if I were to say wallow, man, like today, book coming out,
you inspire so many people. What's your because? Why do you keep doing what you do?
you know, I wanted to be the help.
The help that I wanted when I was in prison,
I wanted to be that for other people.
You know, I used to always wanting to push.
And I used to get pushed through different people watching people on TV.
Like I told you about Les.
You know, Anthony Bourdain.
And I'll be like, you know,
won't I become what I want for myself when I needed it the most?
And that was just a push to help.
And I think being a push is very important out here.
Because you don't know how a simple little push
You know, the door had to be physical, but a verbal push
could help somebody get through their day,
can help somebody get up out of a dark spot,
can help somebody get closer to materializing their dreams.
They could do a lot for them, you know.
So it was like, I just wanted to be the push.
That's my because I'm going to push people the way I needed to push,
the way I needed that lift, you know, just a hand.
Yeah.
When did you know that that was you?
I didn't.
You know what, Nick?
I realized even when I was young growing up,
even in the streets, I always was funny.
I always try to, and sometimes the push is not just in,
encouragement, it's in humor, and all that.
And I realized when I think about when I was a kid,
I always was that kid that was like,
that was like upbeat, always, you know what I mean?
So it was like, I think I had it,
but I ain't identified until I was later on in prison.
You don't identify with it to later on in life.
You know, so it would just be like, that's how I'd be.
It's just different.
Yeah.
And why is that push important to you now?
It's more important now because, you know, as you can see, a lot of things are changing in the country, a lot of rough times.
And people just need it even more now.
Yes, sir.
And their social media came and social media put a lot of people in depression.
A lot of people feel as though they're not where they want to be in their life.
So they, you know, it mess a lot of people up.
So it just be like right now people really need that encouragement more than ever.
Absolutely.
And what I love about you and that push is knowing your story,
knowing your journey and we're going to get into the book, to this book in a moment.
But your other books, man, it's like you reach everyone.
There's so many cats that can talk to the younger generation.
But you inspire those that have come before us because we're about the same age.
Yes.
Right?
You inspire those that are in our age group and you inspire those that are coming up, man.
Like, not many people can do that.
You talk about a Les Brown and the legacy that he's had.
I look at you at that same way.
Thank you.
I look at you at that same way because it doesn't matter who it is.
Doesn't matter where you come from.
When you speak, people feel that, dude.
People feel that.
And I want to give you your flowers,
because a lot of times when we are in the zone of genius
and greatness like you are,
you don't understand the depth that you have.
And so I want you to know the depth.
that you have, brother.
Appreciate you, man.
Thank you, Nick.
Yeah.
Thank you so much, Nick.
So I have this segment that I call the unplugged truth.
And again, knowing the books that you've written and, oh, by the way, New York Times bestseller, by the way, New York Times bestselling author by the way.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Ted X speaker, by the way.
We all have these beliefs, or at least I do, right?
I have beliefs when I was a kid, when I was a young adult that I don't have anymore.
Do you have any beliefs that you once believed in, that you once fought for that now is
like, that was silly.
I don't believe in that anymore.
Yeah, I believed in the streets, in the street culture, the mindset.
I believe that that was real until, you know, you grow, you know, it gets you in all these
bad spots, but not just about getting in bad spots.
You realize that, am I really got a belief in something that's really BS?
So, you know, just coming up out of that, you know, because when you're young, you want to be down.
Like, I wasn't in the streets because I was just the street.
I'm just bad part.
I just wanted to be down and wanted to be accepted by this idea of what cool supposed to be.
Yeah.
You know, a lot of times in the inner city, cool is based off of being a criminal.
And I think that's the craziest thing in the world.
And just the fact of, I'm sitting here and as I got old, I'm like, hold up.
I got it.
I started committing crime because I want to be accepted by some people that I thought was cool,
was followers themselves.
So we all just followers in this big follower pool.
And we all trying to impress each other.
And we don't even know what we're doing.
But we're willing to risk our lives to be accepted by some people that don't even accept
their self.
They're still trying to find themselves.
So we all out here trying to find ourselves.
And I'm like, hold up.
I want to be cool.
Let me be a criminal.
So it was like, you know, I believed in that shit.
And when you wake up, you realize like, hold up.
What was I doing?
Is I'm crazy?
Yeah.
Hard pill to swallow, man.
And so, you know, when I told you that I look up to you and you mentor me from afar,
that right there is exactly one of the lessons that I had to let go of because I used to
believe that loyalty and hanging was the right thing to always do.
But then you taught me peace of mind is more important.
The older you get, it's about peace.
And you've got to let go of certain things and sometimes certain people.
I love for you to talk to the audience about that
and why that's so important of peace.
Let me tell you something, Nick.
You know this.
It's a grown man, Mick.
If you're not on a rule today,
then you might get up in the morning,
take your little walk, do whatever,
gets the sweat, workout, whatever.
And let me take you somewhere.
You come in the house, you take that shower,
your wife, or you make that sandwich.
You know that sandwich.
I'm talking about that nice sandwich,
bread all fluffy.
Yes, sir.
Cheese, whatever sandwich you're tuna,
whatever sandwich you got your chips on the plate.
And you're sitting in your chair, your favorite chair,
or you go lay down.
You eat that sandwich.
You're watching whatever.
The air is blowing through the house,
wherever you've got a window open or wherever is the AC.
You relaxed.
You get to a point of your life where it's, though.
Nothing supersede peace.
Nothing supersede a good nap.
that good recharge when you go to sleep
because I'm one of them dudes
that like, what I'll be chasing
I'll be trying to get up
when I'm up early I'm trying to do as much as possible
so around like one or two o'clock
I can go to sleep
that's why I'm chasing that
I'm like yeah let me get
I got to go to the post office
I got to drop this off
I got to ship this I got to do this
I got to turn these emails
I got to write this down
I got to read this article
I got to talk to these people on the phone
I got to go here
I'm trying to get to that nap
that's just me
because one thing about me is
this one thing Mick
I love
to go to sleep around
two, three,
and then wake up
seven.
I could do my research
on YouTube,
read some and write some stuff down on my book.
I feel like I'm winning.
Like to be up and everybody was going to sleep
I feel like I'm winning. But just
the fact that I don't know what it is about that.
I'll be chasing that. That
just that sleep and that piece,
that soft bed, especially I'm like,
ride the bike, or I might do a run or a walk, right?
I do a runner and walk, ride the bike.
Mick, when I jump in that shower and that water hit my body and break my body down,
the hot water, I'd be like, yes.
All I'm thinking about is getting to that bed.
Because sometimes I might drink a smooth beer, juice, orange juice.
I'm getting up under that bed, the sheet, and you get up under the sheet in the blanket,
and you got the house a little cool.
Yes, sir.
I'm 47 in June.
That's my life.
I love that.
I don't, like a lot of stuff, you know, people think,
nah, when you could take your, you know,
when you didn't did something, you know, the feeling,
it's like multiple feelings.
And people might think I'm crazy, but you know that feeling
when you take your shoes off,
you take your socks off and your feet just be like,
your feet just breathe and you just be like,
it's the simple stuff as that.
Simple stuff is just like, you know,
just being able to wake up and go back to sleep
because you can.
That's something.
That's peace.
That's peace.
I'm going to have to chase naps now, man.
Man, listen.
I've never napped.
Man, listen, you get one of them.
Just try it.
Okay.
Like, you get one of them, you're going to feel so good when you wake up around.
Because now, I don't know what it is.
I love to work in the nighttime.
Something about it.
Yeah.
Especially when I'm already charged because I can push all week through the night.
Because if I go to sleep like two, three,
wake up seven to eight, some stuff like that.
I can push all the way through the night.
So if I got something to do, I could write it down.
Get anything done I need to get done.
Yeah.
So about the morning, I could just say that it was four in the morning,
go back to sleep, wake back up like seven to eight, do what I need to do, you know?
Because like where I'm at now, I'm more focused on.
I got a lot of, you know, different projects I'm working on.
Yeah.
I'm more caught up in that than just posting on social media to be posting.
Yeah.
I'm more focused on that.
So I ain't got to, you know, always cater to that.
Yeah.
No, I love that, man.
Another truth you taught me was the importance of health.
Man, man, we've all heard, you know, health is wealth.
We all know that, right?
But you actually put it into play.
And I know it wasn't meant to be comedy, but, you know,
you've got some really cool Instagram post of you making spaghetti out of out of oodles and noodles.
Yeah.
But the message behind what you're talking about, though, is one, preparing for yourself.
And two, the health benefits of just being healthy.
You know what?
No, I have to thank you for that, man.
Like, I'm down between you and Damond John and Robert Irvine.
Y'all collectively have helped me lose 47 pounds.
Oh, man, that's a blessing.
I'm not rounding up yet because I haven't hit 50, but y'all helped me drop 47.
You know, I major that is because, listen, not just health.
like I shared on my
my page
when I had a colonoscopy
I shared on my page
when I was going to get
colon cancer check
I share all this stuff because I'm like
let's make it cool to live
right let's make it cool and stay healthy
let's really make it cool to just
you know and you know what I'm going to do
I'm going to try to do something for my birthday
okay
Where's dough, I guess a couple hundred men that did you get checked out.
I'll support it.
I got to do something like that.
June 25, I'm a child.
It depends on where I'm at.
I want to do something weird, though, because I'm feeling like a lot of men, because I didn't know this, right?
But when I posted this stuff, I've seen a lot of women in the comments like, yo, my dad, I'm sending this to my dad.
You need to watch, like, especially black men be afraid to get checkups and stuff.
And I'm like, why?
No, we should totally do it.
I'll support it because your birthday is actually the same day as my oldest son.
See, June 21st.
Oh, I thought it was the 25th.
No, 21st.
Well, that same week.
That same week.
Because I'm like, when I started posting that stuff, Mick, I'm like, hold up.
People not jumping on this stuff like this?
Mm-hmm.
I thought people was on it.
I didn't know.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, when I did the colonoscopy, man, listen, man, I had to take some stuff.
I was, listen.
I basically lived in the bathroom.
Mm-hmm.
I was pooping so much, right?
No, because you got to clean out the day before.
So listen, I'm pooping so much, right?
I go to get up and I can't even get up.
Every time I get up, it's more.
So when I did, I had to crawl and I had to lay on the ground.
I had a blanket right there and in there to the toilet.
I was laying on the floor.
It cleaned me out so much.
But then when I went the next day, I was so happy because I went and, you know,
they had to put a camera in you to see what's going on, right?
So I lay down, and the lady's like,
be sleeps. I'm like, all right.
And they gave you that, uh, what's that thing that put you to sleep?
Uh, huh?
Yeah, whatever that is.
The laughing guys.
Okay.
No, but no, this wasn't laughing.
I was asleep. She's like, you're going to be, I went to sleep.
It was done in the heartbeat.
And when I talked to the doc, he's like, you're cool, you're cool.
I was like, wow.
It was, but it felt good to walk out of there and knowing that.
And I shared it with everybody.
But to walk out of there knowing I'm healthy, it was anything.
Yeah.
So we're about to go there now, bro.
Let's do it.
Because I'm here about this book.
Yes.
That's why I'm here.
That's why I'm here.
And I call this one the hot takes.
But the hot takes are all about yes to you, no to them.
And the title grabbed me first and foremost.
And I was like, wow.
And then I got into the book.
And for everybody that's watching, for everybody that's listening,
this book is like a book of passages, man.
I was telling you my kids, my sons,
every day they open something up and it's like, I need that message today.
And that's what they do.
The book, number one, is well written.
For those that don't have the book yet, one, go get it.
But two, it's written where like there's a quote.
And then Wallow breaks down the quote on the next page.
And every page, every section is just like that.
So it's the easiest read you'll ever have.
But it's also very meaningful.
And you have some quotes in this book, man, that one, I align with.
And two, I want to get into.
And the first quote that got me was winning ain't for everybody.
Yes.
And it shook me because it made me go back and look at things in my life where you talk
about being that push.
Because people like you and I, we want people to win with us.
Everybody.
You want anybody to win.
What makes you unique is that you genuinely do care about other people winning.
But you said winning ain't for everybody.
everybody doesn't have the discipline
everybody doesn't have the ethics
everybody doesn't have that thing
that they're willing to fight for
and no matter how bad you want it for somebody else
you can't give it to them man
so talk to us about why winning ain't for everybody
because when you say you want to win
there's a bunch of discipline to come with that
see saying yes to yourself is harder
than saying no to somebody else
or saying yes to somebody else
say when you say yes to yes to
yourself, there's a lot of work that got to come.
So when you say you want to win, there's a lot of working discipline.
People don't, that's why winning ain't for A by.
People are not willing to put that discipline in that, they're working.
They're like, no, I want to win, but, ah, you know, I want to be the best football
playing the world, but I got to work out, I got to eat, right, I got to make sure I'm training,
I got to, ah, I don't want to do that.
Right.
I want to have the best business in the world.
I got to do this.
I got to, I don't want to do it.
Right.
Winning ain't for A bad by.
It's not, man.
You've said it a billion times.
I've heard Michael Jordan talk about.
I heard Steph Curry, LeBron James, all say it.
When you really start winning, you seek boring, right?
Like you seek that monotony, that grind that nobody else wants to do until it becomes
boring for you and that just becomes who you are.
And I don't think people understand that, man.
Like people think greatness is always about pushing yourself.
That's how it starts.
But then you seek, just like you seek the naps, right?
Like every great person I know that's great at what they do, they actually want the boring.
They want to work hard to they get to that boring.
And I like to be away from all the BS.
Right.
Right.
Right.
The second quote that stood out to me, and it's so prevalent today, if you're watching this, I want you to pay attention.
If you're listening to this, pull over, stop what you're doing because this is the most important thing in 2026.
you told everybody to start your own shit.
You see that in there, right?
Start your own shit.
There's no excuses.
For what?
Nick, Mick, Mick, how about this, Mick?
If you said today, you want to become a chef
or you said, I'm going to just start cooking them,
I'm going to start cooking my food and selling it.
Mick, I'm not going to jump in front of you and stop you.
Nobody's going to jump in front of you in the kitchen
and when you start cooking it.
That's your food.
Yeah.
But you.
Yeah.
you're going to jump in front of you,
you're going to stop me before you start.
So if you think about it, start your own shit.
Would you, like, what's the excuses?
There are none today.
There are none.
Like, you can build someone else's dream.
Think about it.
You definitely could build someone.
Or you can complete your own.
You got a lot of dream builders out here.
Yeah.
You know, a lot of dream builders.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Next quote.
And this one, we're going to go deep.
Do it.
Because this one is the new keynote speak.
Don't buy it.
Block out the bullshit is the quote.
But I'm going to give everybody that's watching what the story is.
Fear is what everybody's selling.
Fear is what everybody's selling.
And so when Wallow says don't buy it, block out the bullshit, he's talking about fear.
When you look social media, where are they selling?
Fear.
Fear.
You look at TV, the newspaper.
Where do they sell?
Everybody's selling fear out of it.
That's the new hustle.
Right.
Everybody telling you the world won't end of day.
the world going to start today.
You're not going to be able to, they're telling you, you're going to lose your home.
You're going to lose your car.
You're going to lose your job.
You're going to lose your life.
That's all they tell me.
And people love it.
They keep watching their BS.
Yeah.
I don't pay attention to it.
No.
And what's crazy, because I'd like to think I'm really good at coaching salespeople.
Uh-huh.
And anyone that's a student of mine or a client of mine as it relates to sales, I'm different
because I teach you don't sell fear.
And that's what this quote, like, I promise you, your next keynote should be about that
because you said it's the biggest business in the world.
And it made me pause and I'm like, damn, Wallow hit on something that was so simply stated.
Bro, that's deep.
Think about it.
That's all you, the news is based off fear.
Yeah.
There's more fear sold on the news than it is positivity or encouraging energy.
Yeah.
This is the biggest media outlets you got.
the news. Yep. Yep. And it's all fear. And then this next one. And this is what, when we talk about
my boys and what they had to come to grips with was this right here. Stop befriending people
who talk about their friends. Stop befriending people that talk about their friends because they're
talking about you too. Mick, Mick, I come, you know, me and you know each of, we close
back saying, we go to school together, whatever, church together, whatever.
you always talking about your friends.
What connection to me and you really going to have?
You're going to talk about me.
Right.
Right.
You're going to talk about me.
Think about this, though.
You're going to talk about me.
Yep.
Yep.
And again, I learned that lesson from Kenny Anderson.
Shout out to Kenny Anderson, by the way.
My good friend Chris Paradiso, they got me to evaluate my circle two times a year.
because we evolve as people
and everybody in your circle
doesn't share the same mission
and if they do then you're not growing personally
right and that's what I look at
with you on how
not only have you evolved
but your circle changes
the moves that you make have to be different
and everybody that's on the ride with you
isn't meant to get to that final destination
in whatever season that is
I love for you to talk about
Batman, about how your circle is changed and why it changes.
I got one even better for you.
A good friend of mine who's also a brumbo mom, Herm, right?
Herm always say, you got to audit your circle.
Yep.
Say, you got to audit your circle.
And that's important.
One thing about me, I keep my thing real lean and slim.
I don't need a lot of people because with a lot more people, more confusion.
You know what I mean?
and more people, more expectations, more entitlement.
People, oh, why you ain't coming on a party?
You should have came?
I didn't want to come to your party.
I don't party.
Just because I don't party.
I don't care.
So you got to think about that.
Like, how do we figure it out to where as though we, like,
I'm so focused and so locked in that I don't need to be around anybody.
I don't need 100 friends.
I don't need, like, listen, you already.
got one of the biggest relationships that you're going to have is a relationship with your dreams.
Yeah.
Because at the end of the day, no matter what happened in life, nothing comes before the relationship
with your dream.
You can be married, you can have kids.
All that's cool, but if you don't materialize your dream, you can't take care of them.
Think about that.
You can't take care of them.
Yeah.
And one thing that we know is people try to say, oh, listen, we need to materialize our dreams
because in order to live on this planet Earth, you need money.
you need money.
Right.
And one thing about money is you got to take care of school.
You got to take care of shelter.
You got to take care of food.
Got to take care of transportation.
You got to take care of next level education.
Yep.
You got to take care of health care coverage, insurance.
And one thing about money is, once you had a relationship with your dreams and you really
materialize your dreams, you start making money.
Like I said in the book, money give money to money.
Yes, sir.
You know once you start getting money, it is.
people just want to get you money.
Right.
People find ways to get you.
People find ways to get your money, Mick.
They find it.
Right.
Some reason.
So it's like, like, you've got to have a relationship with that dream.
But in order to have a true relationship with your dream,
you can't have all these people around, man, pulling you in different directions because they
a party or they know you.
I know, come in this party, do that.
No.
Right.
I can't be responsible for everybody by happiness.
That's it.
That's it.
And another thing you said in the book, too, you know, we talked about auditing your
circle.
and then you have a follow-up,
but always protect those that help you win.
Because winning is never a singular thing.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, you know, I love boxing, right?
Old school boxing.
And you look at a Muhammad Ali, you look at a Mike Tyson,
you look at an Evander Holyfield,
you look at a Floyd Mayweather.
Publicly, they might be the people getting the credit and the just do,
but it's other people that got them there.
And you talk about in the book, man, like, never forget the people that help you win.
Like, those are your true people.
Talk us about the importance of that.
You got to think about it is like, a lot of winners are crazy.
Like, I look at myself like I'm crazy.
When you look at the people that you got around, you've got to have people around that understand you're crazy and believe in you're crazy.
That's why you got to respect them people.
You got to respect them people
That's willing to
Believe in just all the madness
Even when it's you don't see no
You don't see the end of it
You can't see you just like oh damn
Yeah you're gonna do what
You're like yeah I'm gonna do that
I could do that you're like what
How can you do I could do it
So you got to protect them people
You got to respect them people
That believe in you
And help you get to
You know to your dreams
Yep
It's two things you said, this is why I know that we're brothers from another mother.
Because it's two things.
One is in the book and one I hear you talk about all the time,
that my grandfather used to tell me every day in my life.
And my grandfather pretty much raised me with my mom.
The first one was move in silence.
My grandfather used to tell me this.
When everyone knows where you're going, you'll never get there.
And when everyone knows what you have, you actually have nothing.
And so I learned at a very young age, man, like, if you're trying to get something done, let the result speak.
Please.
Let the result speak.
And in the book, you talk about that, man, about moving.
It's like at the very beginning of the book, and that's what, again, we're brothers from another mother because I was like, oh, I'm doing nothing else the rest of the day except reading this point.
Yeah.
Talk to people about why that's so important because I feel like people that don't accomplish what they set out to do is because they told.
too many people about it, and they didn't have the heart to really do it anyway.
And people put bad energy on your dreams.
That's it.
Like a lot of times you'd be sitting there, you'd be thinking people be sitting there, man, putting all type of, they'd be putting all type of hex on your drink.
They, I mean, and sometimes it's good to just do it.
Yeah.
Like, that energy you got, what do you, we'll do it matter if you tell somebody.
You tell somebody what you're attempting to do, just do the shit.
Exactly.
They do it.
Exactly.
And let the result speak.
Yeah.
I don't have to tell anybody what I'm doing.
Like all the amazing things.
And for those that don't know, we're in Wallow's warehouse.
And in this warehouse, there's merch everywhere.
There's books everywhere.
There's so much that he has going on that you haven't even seen yet because he's not telling anybody about it.
The results speak for themselves.
Yeah.
The action is what drives everything.
Not the talk.
Yep.
Not the talk.
And then the other thing that I got from you, and it's actually a part of the title, right?
Yes to you.
No to them.
A lot of folks don't understand.
No is a complete sentence.
No, period.
That's the sentence.
That's it.
My grandfather taught me that.
That's it.
You got to explain anything?
For what?
No.
Nope.
No.
Give your take on that, man.
No being a complete sentence.
And then I want to know why you wrote the book and where that title came from.
One thing I love about it is this.
I love No.
No changed lives.
It's going to be a lot of vicar when that comes with it
because everybody just wants you to be a yes man.
They want you to be a yes man to their dreams.
They want you to be a yes man to your distractions,
to the distractions that they bring you.
They just want you to be a yes.
And don't nobody remember.
That no destroy all yeses.
They don't remember none of the yeses before them.
But if you're establishing,
I think people should establish they know early.
Yeah.
If younger people can establish and know in their life early,
they like a chance.
Yeah.
you establish a no early, everything change.
Yeah.
Everything's changed for you, you know, when you just establish that no.
Mm-hmm.
You know, and I think that's real important.
No, and there's a business lesson of that.
I tell entrepreneurs and especially salespeople, I'm actually trying to get you to tell me no.
Mm-hmm.
I want to make it very comfortable for you to tell me no.
Yeah.
As soon as possible, because when there's a breakup, I don't want to wait to the very last moment to be broken up with, right?
Yeah.
We can break up early.
Tell me right now.
We ain't got to go nowhere.
Tell me right now because I'm cool with no because I understand it.
Right.
Because a lot of times, no can mean two things.
To me, no can mean next opportunity.
And it's a lot of, there's a lot of lessons and blessings inside of a no.
Because all knows ain't bad.
Oh.
Sometimes you got to get the understanding of a no.
If you told me know about something,
I'm like, make, could you elaborate on why you,
why you reach that destination?
Like what's going on?
But it's cool, but some people, they just like,
if they don't give it, they want when they want it,
and they can't take advantage of you.
Yeah.
They upset.
Yeah.
They pissed.
Yeah.
And, you know, you also put in the book, and again, I'm just going to keep reping the book today.
Yes to you know to them.
Go get it.
Like right now, there's links everywhere you're looking for it.
You told me in the book there's 8.
Something billion people on Earth.
And people get confused that they need 2,000 yeses.
You say you need 5 to 10.
5 to 10 yeses will change your life.
Listen, let me explain something to you.
Five to ten yes is to take you to another level because you got to remember this.
Think about the yeses that you might need.
You need your wife to say yes.
You got your business dealings.
You need an investor to say yes.
That's like once the real investor comes.
Right, right, right, right.
That one yes could change your life forever financially.
It could put some mean security around you, your wife, your kids, everything.
And it can really supercharge your business.
Your whole business, the speaking, the podcast,
everything you got going on under the Mick,
under the Mick Hunt brand.
And then you think about it, that's really two yeses right there.
You know, your wife, yes, your foundation.
How many more you need.
Right.
That goes back.
People seek validation.
And then you make a mess a yes up.
You might get a big yes in your life, mess it up,
and do you come back and get another yes?
I regroup.
I didn't even think about it that way.
I think about it.
You don't need all of them.
You don't need, you don't need anybody to say yes to you.
Because you, you got to say yes to you.
It's your responsibility to say yes to you,
but outside of the yes to you that you're saying to you,
if you get three to four yeses, five, you go.
Especially if they're important.
Stop chasing the small yeses.
Everybody out here chasing these baby yeses.
Oh, yeah.
Yes, I go to the party with you.
Yes, I go.
out and get drunk with you. Yes, how lowing you
a couple hundred dollars? Man, that's babies.
That's, nah. Right.
Focus on the big yeses. But you got to
know your yes. You got to know the yes that you're looking
for. What yes is you looking for?
That's it. If you're just looking for anybody to say
yes, and that's going to cater to your
securities of your fields of your show coming,
it's over. So what
made you want to sit down
and write this bestseller?
Man, this is everything. This right
here, which is going to be a bestseller.
it was simple.
And I wanted to, you know,
patter in it after social media.
Yeah.
All the quotes you need.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, love don't have a speed limit.
Drivers dictate.
Mm.
You know what I'm saying?
Because, you know, you might meet somebody
and just be like, man, I love this.
I love this situation.
I love what's going on.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Yep.
So that's how that be.
Nah.
And again, I'm going to keep talking about
the book, I promise you you're going to be like me, and I told all of this, I read it four times, right?
That's major.
And now, every day, I go to what I call a passage because he just held it up for you.
Every day, you can go to a certain section of the book.
And that passage, that message is going to speak to you and then put action around what that
means to you today.
And here's actually what I want people to do.
And this just came to me.
If you're watching, if you're listening right now, go get the book, June 16th.
And what I want to do 30 days later, start in July 16th.
And I'm going to start the movement with this.
Collectively, we're going to choose a message from the book.
And we're going to talk about it that day.
And every week, every week, that's what we're going to do.
We're going to take a quote from the book and on social media, that's going to be the driving topic we talk.
about that week and put action behind it because as much as their quotes, they're actually
actions for you to take to do something to change your life, to make your life better, to make
your business better, to make you a better person. And we're going to talk about it and we're
going to share with Wallow what that message meant that week for us. Can you see this?
That's what I'm talking about. Yes, he, you know, to them. The new bestseller. Yes,
new bestseller.
Mm-hmm.
All right, Waddle.
So this one I call the room.
Every person I know that's done something,
there was a room, a meeting, a dinner that changed your life.
What was that for you?
Was it a room?
Was it a meeting?
Was it a dinner?
Was it a conversation?
What was that moment for Wallow that changed your life?
It wasn't just the room.
It's the rooms that lead up to that room.
Mm-hmm.
They get you ready for it.
Because one room.
go open up a door in another room.
That's why you got to know how to move in rooms.
Yep.
Because I might come to your room
and you might give me a certain offer.
And the offer you give me in your room
might lead to somebody else
trying to give me an offer in another room.
So it's rooms, but the strongest room I haven't been in,
there was a small little office.
And me and my partner, me and Gil,
walking that room.
And in less than five minutes,
tens of a million dollars.
deal was done and we walked out.
It was simple.
It wasn't no backing.
It wasn't a...
Right.
It was they said this.
They said this.
All right, well, this one I'm a deal.
Here, take that.
Walked out.
Wow.
Less than three minutes, probably.
And what was the feeling when you walked out the room?
It was unimaginable.
I thought about it all night because it was like,
damn, this is great.
That was great.
And you just be like, you know that you wasn't as crazy as you thought you was.
You're like, no, you know something.
You gotta be, you gotta really be crazy.
Yeah.
Believe in yourself, but it's, but it gets even more crazier
when you see that other people believe in you,
the game changes believe in you, the life changes believe in you.
Mm-hmm.
Now you're really like shit.
Right.
And knowing the person that you are today,
for you now,
you're about creating those rooms for other people.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
I see all the work that you're doing.
doing that doesn't get publicized.
Yeah.
Because you move in silence, right?
Like, you don't need to publicize you doing things for people or you're doing things
in the community.
That's not who you are.
But you are creating those rooms.
For those that are watching, for those that are listening, what's the criteria to get
in a wallow room?
What are you looking for?
Be you.
My rooms is anywhere.
You might get in my room in the airport.
It might be in a hotel lobby.
It might be walking down the street.
It ain't about, it is about.
you got to make it make sense.
Yeah.
Once you see me,
if it makes sense,
I'm stopping.
Yeah.
Talk to you.
I talk to anybody,
but it's like,
if you talk about some serious stuff,
as soon as you make it makes sense,
I'm open,
my mind and I'm like,
that's the room right there.
Yeah.
I love it.
You know, some people,
some people want to get in the room
and don't even know
what they're going in the room
to talk about sometimes.
Yeah.
And when I run into people like that,
I try to educate them.
I'm like, listen,
this is what I need you to do.
Let's start.
this over.
Yeah.
They mess up.
Let's start it over.
No, this is what you need to say.
First of all, where are you trying to go at?
Where are you trying to land at?
Yeah.
Let me know, once you tell me when you're trying to land, I can help you out.
So we can put this together.
We got to put this presentation together real quick.
You got time.
I'm going to have 15 minutes.
Yeah.
But we got to figure it out because you stepped to me.
You didn't even know what you wanted.
So let's figure out what you want.
So once we figure out what you want, we can establish the delivery and we can establish where
you're trying to land.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love it.
I love it.
So before I get you out of here with my rapid fire hot five,
again, this episode is about this book because this book is game changing.
And I don't care who you are.
Uh-huh.
You need the book.
So much so that I'm going to do this because everybody that's a follower of Mick Unplugged,
they know when I have something that I support and I believe in, I like to give back.
And usually I do 20 copies of what I like.
but I heard your favorite number is seven,
like Les Brown.
So I'm going to do 70.
Mm.
The first 70,
and it always gets stuck because whoever's number 21 gets mad at me.
It's not my fault.
Yeah.
It's not my fault.
But the first 70 people on Instagram that message me,
yes to me.
Mm.
Yes to me.
And I'm talking about you,
because that's the title of the book.
Yes to you, noted them.
I'm going to get you a copy of the book on me.
Before I walk out of here today,
I'm ordering 70 copies.
You hear that?
But then I need you to do me a favor.
If you are number 71 through 6 million,
Amazon.com,
Barnes & Nobles, Books a Million,
your local bookstore.
Mm-hmm.
Pre-order now.
Buy it now.
You need it.
I promise you.
you every day, there's something for you. Go get the book. I'm going to have links in the show notes
and the descriptions. Again, the first 70 people, yes to me. I'm going to get a copy. And then here's
what we're going to do, starting July 16th. We're going to go 30 days after release. We're going
on social media once a week and we're going to say what this book is meant to us. We're going to
choose a passage. We're going to talk about it through the end of this year. That's how much I believe
in the book because when my kids like something,
I know it was something bigger than me.
And again, I'm giving you your flowers, bro.
Thank you, my brother.
Because it's that deep.
Thank you, I appreciate you.
All right.
And then also, because I'm also here, the first 20 people, you see these, right?
I think I need to get 20 people.
I'm going to buy them.
I think I need to give 20 people these.
Mm-hmm.
That's major, Mick.
But here's the kick, though, because I can't just go buy 20 of, like, one size of these shoes.
You got to figure out the size is.
I mean, get back what is.
Yeah.
But the first 20 people, I got to figure out how to do this so it's fair.
They got to follow the brand.
And the brand is airplanes and hotel.
And I'll have links to that on social too.
You got to follow the brand.
You got to follow Wallo.
You got to follow.
me and you got to message the three of us so that I can confirm and validate. I'll reply back
if you're in the top 20. Give me your shoe size. I got you. These are the most comfortable shoes.
And I travel a lot. Airplanes and hotels, that used to be my nickname. That's where I'm at.
That's where I'm at. When I tell you these are comfortable, these are all days.
Yes. These are these. So much so I got a speaking and
engagement Monday, I think I'm going to wear these on stage.
Yes, sir.
I think I'm going to wear these on stage.
Yes, sir.
That's how comfortable they are.
So, ladies and gentlemen, I threw out the challenge.
Hit me up.
Now, Walla, I got to get you out of here.
This unplug five, this rapid fire.
I don't know if you're ready.
I'm ready.
The hardest know you ever had to say was to who?
Myself.
My hardest know was to me, too.
To me.
It was to me.
Looking in the mirror.
who's a better Hooper?
You were Gilly.
Gilly.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't, I'll be lying.
I mean like that.
It used to be.
Now, back in 92, 93, that's different.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
We're in Philly.
The King of the Cheesesteak.
Mm-hmm.
I've had some recommendations that I haven't loved.
I'm going to be honest.
I'm going to give you the best recommendations.
That's it.
The best cheesecake in Philly is.
Taste cheese steak.
They got a.
Oxtailed cheesecake.
Okay.
Yes, I'm going to see you there.
Okay.
I love it.
I love it.
I need you to finish this sentence.
The freedom that follows saying no feels like the freedom that follows saying no.
Feels like, feels like, greatest thing in your life.
Greatest thing in your life.
So the last question is the two part.
When the story of your life is being produced, when the movie Wallow comes out,
because I'm putting that in the, I'm putting it out there.
What's one or two words you want to define you and your legacy in that film?
Giver.
Giver.
Who plays you in that film?
That's the follow up.
Michael B. Joy.
If you'd have asked me that, that's exactly who ought to say.
Michael B. Jordan.
that guy.
Ladies and gentlemen, this has been my good friend,
Wallo 267.
We'll keep saying it. Go get this book.
Yes to you, no to them.
It's available right now.
It's available right now.
Wallo, brother.
I appreciate you.
I appreciate you more than you know.
Thank you, Mick.
I appreciate you for coming out here, man.
Yes, sir.
Mick unplug!
That's it.
And to all the viewers and listeners, remember your because is your superpower.
Go unleash it.
Yes.
