Mick Unplugged - Building Mindset Muscle with Elan Gelfand

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Starting point is 00:01:05 What decisions were you living out? I promise you were doing nothing like my guy, Elon G. If you're an employer, what is the modern employee you really want out of your company? I promise. It's not the traditional things that you're thinking, which is probably why you're struggling to recruit young talent. Ladies and gentlemen, this has been an amazing conversation, and I can't wait for you to listen to it.

Starting point is 00:01:30 So here we go. My guy, Elon Jean. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another exciting episode of Mick Unplugged, and today I've got a gym. We're talking about the host who was taking over 100 episodes and counting to turn ordinary mindsets into breakthroughs. He builds environments, breaks judgment, and ignites passion in all. who listen. He is the voice behind abundant thinking. He is the thriving, the inspiring, the relentless. My guy, Mr. Elon, how you doing today, brother? I'm doing good. Thank you for asking, and thank you for the amazing intro. I really appreciate it. No, always, man, always. So we were

Starting point is 00:02:11 literally just chatting and you were talking about how wild, crazy, cool, and insane it is to like to meet someone with a similar passion, a similar story, a similar purpose. So, you know, I kind of want to open that floor and open that door. Let's talk about Elon G, man. Like, for those that don't know, like, what's your because? What's your purpose? What's your drive? What's your mission?

Starting point is 00:02:39 I would say my because is my mom. So when I was about, I say eight years old, my parents got divorced. And, you know, my dad, he had a good job. He was working very hard working person. and he always, he went after what he wanted, right? When my parents got divorced, my mom was kind of left on her own, obviously, she was never really the one with the job. So she took care of my brother and I.

Starting point is 00:03:00 She worked minimum wage, and, you know, I have memories of, you know, waking up for middle school, and, you know, she would have to wake up my brother. She'd, like, feed him, she'd get him to school, then she would come back just to let me sleep for, like, 20 extra minutes. She would take care of us, get us to school, then she'd have to work her job or she was earning minimum wage, pay for all the stuff, pay for food. I have no clue, Mick, I have no clue how she did it, but that is 100% my, because I think a lot of my life revolves around the idea that I want to make sure that my mom A never has

Starting point is 00:03:33 to go through that again, but also in the future with my kids, my wife, my family, that I can be the person there for them to be able to get them out of, you know, financial burden. I saw I was very hard on my mom and I had to make a hard choice, especially the last couple of ears with the idea that, you know, I have the power, in my opinion, to help her, you know, have the conversations on the podcast, learn new things. You know, I'm young. I think it puts me in a good spot for people to want to teach me things, right, to mentor me. So just being able to learn from people, get as much as I can, you know, squeeze the sponge of information out of people. Yeah. I think that I am able to dictate the results in my life. And although I have zero

Starting point is 00:04:12 proof, Mick, it's funny because I was thinking about this, I got some coffee today and I was thinking about it. You and I are very similar in our upbrings and our background of wanting to help our mom, right? But unlike you, you know, you've done the thing. But right now, I'm in the progress. I'm trying to do it the process. My apologies. I'm trying to do the thing. And although I have no evidence that this thing will work out, I think it's my obligation to help my mom. Wow, brother. One that's touching. Two, you say I've done the thing. But for those that don't know, Elon, tell everybody how old you are first, bro. I'm 20. I'm 20 years old.

Starting point is 00:04:48 Yeah. So at 20, dude, I hadn't done the thing either. At 20, I was in college at the University of North Carolina, and I was trying to do everything in my power to make sure that I was the blueprint for my mom, my sister, and my brother, right? My brother was two years old at the time. My sister was 16, so a junior in high school. And so I was working jobs to make sure that they had, right? I was making sure that I was creating a standard that everyone could be proud of. But I hadn't done the thing or figured the thing out. I mean, I'm 47 now, and I probably still haven't figured the thing out.

Starting point is 00:05:36 It's just working towards fulfilling. that promise that I made to everyone. And so now that promise has evolved to my wife and kids and my tight circle. So I don't want you to feel like you have to have the thing figured out because you are doing much more at 20 than I was. You've got a hard-reaching, far-reaching podcast. You've created a mindset framework.

Starting point is 00:06:01 Dude, I was just trying to make sure I was surviving at 20. So kudos to you for continuing to do that. And I think folks that are listening to this, that are my age, will tell you, dang, Elon, you're doing it, brother. So pat yourself on the back, accept these small victories because you are doing it. So kudos to you, man. Oh, dude, I appreciate the words. Thank you so much. And I know, I think you can attest the idea that, you know, sometimes it's very tough and it feels lonely because you don't see the results right away, right?

Starting point is 00:06:32 They're not. I've been doing this thing for a couple of years. I think even when I was, like, junior in high school, same sophomore. I always knew that this is going to be the thing, but it was a little bit hard for me to accept because I knew how hard the road would be, if that makes sense. Like, I wanted to do it the ethical way, and I wanted to make sure that I learned from the right people as well. So it was like, I had to make a choice.

Starting point is 00:06:54 And it sounds kind of like cliche and dramatic, but I really had to make a choice between me just, you know, I'm in college right now. I can just go get a normal job, get my degree, whatever. And it's good. And, you know, my mom, like, she's got her thing and she's going to be fine. or I just dig my heels in and literally every single day work towards something. Every single day just to work as hard as I can. So the decision, you know, I made it.

Starting point is 00:07:16 I'm going forward and one step at a time. And I think over the long term I can do it. I really do, Mick. No, not can. You're going to do. It's all about one foot in front of the other, one day at a time, focused on the right thing. Not the most popular thing, right? Not the low-hanging fruit thing.

Starting point is 00:07:38 100% of the right thing. Life is never going to be easy. I tell folks all the time, as business leaders, we create these business plans and these business strategies. And if they were all perfect, everybody in the world would be billionaire, right? But life happened. And it's all about how do you adjust, right? How do you fight through? How do you reorganize?

Starting point is 00:08:03 How do you create new momentum? And that's what life is all about me. So keep doing that because you're doing amazing. So, Elon, I want to go to abundant thinking. And when you decided that this was the message that you wanted to send out and share with the world, because you felt like you had something to all. Dude, one, I'm proud of you for doing that. Two, when did you know that that's what you were called?

Starting point is 00:08:33 Yeah, great question. I would say, kind of like I mentioned earlier, in middle high school years, I kind of made a decision that I wanted to do more. And I tried out a lot of different things. There are a lot of like small little side hustles I was doing. And I was like, you know, maybe this is going to work. Maybe this is going to be the thing. But I had a realization that a lot of times people pitch an idea that's not true. You know, a lot of times you see people like get rich, quick schemes, all these things. And like, you might be able to make somebody in the short term. That's not my goal at all. So after trying and I wouldn't say failing, but just trying a bunch of different things out, I was like, okay, what is something that I can do that will be very worthwhile in the long term? You know, maybe even I've had a deep-rooted belief in my life that no matter like the people that get the good results in life do it for a reason. Like I used to look at, you know, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos. I'm like, okay, there's no way they just got lucky, right? I mean, maybe some people, you know, they were born to a good family, but there's just no way that every single person who's ever done something amazing just got a

Starting point is 00:09:35 good hand dealt. So I started looking into it and I really established the belief that you know what there has to be some good insights out there on how I can be the person to, you know, achieve these high level things. And that's what I set out to do. And I thought about it. I had some different ideas, but I was okay. One, I like talking, as you can tell. Two, I always value wisdom from people. I mean, every single time, my grandpa would send me down and you tell me something, my dad, I always keep it in the back on my head. Like a lot of people, they'll hear something and it's like, oh, yeah, I mean, that's a cool insight. They don't really take it to heart. For me, I was always listening to people, always trying, because listen, especially like I started when I was a

Starting point is 00:10:09 freshman in college, what do I know? I don't know anything. And there's people who've had careers that are like four times longer than my entire life at that time, you know what I mean? So I wanted some really good wisdom from people and it gave me a good excuse to reach out to people. I think that I was thinking what I would want it to be. Like, you know, if I had a podcast, what I talk about? And the idea of a podcast that is kind of more like, you know, Joe Rogan style where you kind of just talk about your life, you make some different touch points, never really appeal to me too much because I wanted to know very certain things. It's like, okay, listen, you train, you're a UFC fighter. How did you get there? What's your mindset? How do you do that?

Starting point is 00:10:43 That's insane. You're a top level coach. What does it take to do this? I wanted those very specific questions because I think those are the silver nuggets that kind of, you know, process more in my brain and make me think, oh, wait a second. I had this one UFC fighter on my podcast who said that you should always bet on yourself. And then I actually had a coach who said that she finds out that, you know, you should bet on yourself so i'm like wait a minute there's some overlap there and once you know that kind of started happening i was like you know what i think mindset would be a really good idea because i believe mindset is where everything starts you know i can have the most skills and actually i'll say i did so i played soccer for 13 years i mean that's a lot that's a long time right but i didn't

Starting point is 00:11:20 have a good mindset and i even you know i did not perform to the best of my abilities because there were so many things hindering my performance so i thought about it and i'm like listen You can have so much experience in a field, but if your mindset isn't good enough, it's going to be hard for you to thrive, in my personal opinion. However, on the contrary, if you have a really good mindset, you're just doing amazing things, but your skill level is low. I believe that mindset can allow you to increase your skill level and open up new opportunities for yourself. And also, you know, just different, I guess small, because mindset's a big word, right, but different small increments of mindset is so important. Like, for example, self-doubt. It's like, listen, you can, I play soccer for 13 years, but I always doubt in my ability.

Starting point is 00:12:00 Whenever I'd see all the opponents in front of me, I'd be like, oh, my God, this guy's faster than me. And even my teammates, I remember every single game, I know the captains, like the teammates would be like, oh, dude, like that guy, number 41, he's really quick, watch out for him. And that would automatically make me feel like, okay, I'm not quick enough. You know, he's quicker than me. So all of these different things. But now that I'm doing this podcast, I started it with a high mindset, kind of like we're talking about, but low skill. And I feel like over time, it's gotten better. And, you know, I feel like I have such a ruthless mindset towards the things that I do that it's allowed me to create opportunities.

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Starting point is 00:13:17 Like NCIS, Tony and Ziva. We'd like to make up our own rules. Tulsa King. We want to take out the competition. The substance. This balance is not working. And the Nick. gun that was awesome now that's a mountain of entertainment I like it you know Elon one of the things

Starting point is 00:13:41 that I admire about you just you know being a follower of you and seeing you on social and YouTube is your consistency and I always tell people consistency breeds discipline so talk about the consistency that's needed not even for content creation but but just in life talk to people that a little. Yeah. Oh, man. I think consistency is everything. And I've had a mentor of mine. He tells me, I might butcher this a little bit, but he tells me that consistency creates discipline and discipline is like what makes you successful, right? Especially over the long term. I think for me, this is also another good thing. I forgot to mention. But when I first started my podcast, I set a contract with myself. I said, okay, I'm going to do this thing for two years. It was December 2023

Starting point is 00:14:25 at the time. So I got a couple months off of my contract. But I said, okay, listen, if whatever I do because I was thinking, you know, I did all those side hustle, I did those things. And I wanted to do something that was going to be years and take me a while. And it was hard work. So I said, okay, I want to do something that I'm going to do every single week for two years, non-negotiable. And then only after two years can I decide if it's for me or not. You know, obviously there's a lot of push and pull with that because at any time, like, it is me. I could just be like, yeah, whatever, I'm done. But I don't do that to myself, right? Doing it every single week. I mean, it is, it's one of the hardest things that I found, but the most, worthwhile successes. When you can be consistent in your craft, it doesn't seem like much at the time, right? It's like, okay, this week I'll upload and the next week comes around. You're like, oh, man, got to knock out this episode. So you get the other episode done. And then you look back after a year and you're like, wow, I've got a lot of episodes. And even right now I'm at like 111 episodes. And it's like, it's crazy. You know, you start at zero. You build this thing over time and time and it gets bigger and bigger. And I think one of my biggest inspirations for

Starting point is 00:15:27 staying consistent is how many of my guests tell me. It's like, hey, if you want to be good at this thing the world's best they do it consistently they do it every week they do it every day etc. Elon brother you know you don't have you don't have the vocabulary you don't have the mindset you don't have the complacency of a lot of people you're able and so I want to talk to our listeners and viewers personally right now you're 20 years old right for the parents that are listening or watching this episode, what are some things that they can be doing with their children that are in that, I'm going to call it 13 to 20, 21-year-old stage. What are the conversations that they should be having?

Starting point is 00:16:16 What does it look like? What can they be doing? That's a great question, Mick. I would say, and I read a really good book about this, it wasn't about this, but it was just this idea that I think a lot of times, especially people might be doing. age you know they're going into like corporate jobs and they're doing all these things and they're just dragging and actually this episode's really good timing because yesterday i i'll say surveyed for those of you guys not watching a video i'm kind of like putting my hands of like i surveyed 40 of

Starting point is 00:16:44 my friends and i asked them like what's their biggest mindset struggle and a lot of them said that they just feel misaligned that you know they don't know their why they don't know why they're here they don't know like what their purpose is on this earth and you know it hurts a lot to hear that people you care about, right? And it's especially from someone like me, I feel like I did find my purpose. I love talking about mindset. I totally think I can teach this, right? It's tough to see it. I would say the thing that's allowed me to find the passion is having the opportunity to explore. I asked my friends that said, hey, I never found my passion. I don't know what I'm here for. I said, do you try new things or do you kind of just like, you know, stay stuck? Not like in a accusatory manner,

Starting point is 00:17:24 but I'm like, hey, like, out of all the things you do, like, how many things are you trying? Are you ever like talking to people, et cetera? And they're like, you know, not really and I think for the parents that have kids you said 13 to 20 years old I think it's a allowing them freedom to discover themselves and you know this is very like I'm 20 years old I have a lot of wisdom and a lot of time to come like in the next years right so it's hard for me to say an exact answer but I'll say the thing that's worked for me so I'll just attest to myself is just having the freedom to find the thing that I liked and also I would will say in a way, the situation that I was put in with my mom has allowed me to excel.

Starting point is 00:18:07 And I understand that not everybody has the pressure behind them. And, you know, our mutual friend, Dr. Haley Perlis, she says pressure is a privilege with which is just, oh my God. I mean, I tell all my friends about it. And I totally agree. But it's kind of thinking about, honestly, the worst case scenario helps me. It's like when I'm not feeling like I can do the thing, it's like, okay, well, if I'm not going to do the thing, that means I'm not going to get my end goal and then my mom's going to remain

Starting point is 00:18:28 in the same situation. Then same thing with my kids, right? It's extrapolating it. That's the thing that works for me. So I would say maybe even creating a situation and where you feel a little bit pressure to do the thing. Because a lot of people nowadays, I don't want to use the word robot, but a lot of them are just going through the motions. And it's hard to see because it's hard to get to a certain point in your life if you never really dig your heels in and work as hard as you can. But I think people don't understand it.

Starting point is 00:18:56 But the TLDR, I would say, sorry for talking so much. like is just allow them to find their passion a i mean that's huge and also on maybe even understanding how their passion can lead to bigger things like one of my friends i'm an overly optimistic guy i'll admit right one of my friends he's like you know i'm doing i'm doing finance as a major but if he asked me the question he's like what would you do if money didn't matter and i asked the question and then he said he's like yeah you know honestly i'd be like an artist or writer and i'm overly optimistic so in my brain i think to myself i'm like well why can't you do that right and boom you can list a thousand reasons why you can't but i took

Starting point is 00:19:29 totally, I totally believe that it is possible, no matter the person you are. So, you know, going after your dreams. And the thing is, you don't have to go all in. You don't have to drop out of school and become an artist, but you can do both the same time. You know, I'm a student, but I also run the podcast and I have my community. So it's like, you know, a lot of the people that I spoke to my podcast, they mentioned that, you know, I was doing the thing for a while. And then once it caught up to how much I was making for my job or when I thought it was the right time to, like, leave the other place. That's what I did. And then it kind of went up. I dig that, man. Are there.

Starting point is 00:19:59 Any, what's like one or two questions that can spark a conversation between parent and child? What are a couple of questions that, you know, Elon wishes his mom would have asked or, you know, you've had friends and they've said, you know, if we could just have a conversation about X, like, what would that look? I think it's harder. The younger you are, it's harder. But especially people around my age, I'd be like, what's the thing that kind of makes you excited to get up? Which sounds very cliche, you know. No, I did it, though. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:20:30 You know, a lot of the things that are cliche, people will say it's cliche. I just said it's cliche, but it's cliche because it applies. Like a lot of people, they find out, they have the same insights on things, right? And for me, it's like, you know, A, asking what's the thing that makes them tick? And then B is how can you get that? How can you do the thing? You know, like a lot of people can be like, oh, yeah, like my friend, he said, I want to be an artist, I want to be a writer. And my second question would be like, okay, well, how can you do it in a manner that can make you semi-successful to where I understand, like he's not, he might not be a Vincent Van Gogh.

Starting point is 00:20:58 he's not going to, you know, have all these amazing art pieces, but like, how, how can you know that? You know, you can't, it's tough because I think people give up on themselves faster than I give up on them, right? Like, they're like, no, like, I don't want to be an artist. And I'm like, yeah, but why? And they're like, because it's not worth at the time. And I'm like, I understand, but what if you do this? Like, I'm always trying to find solutions for people, right? And, you know, for better or for worse, but I really believe that people can chase and go to the things they really want. And it's going to take a lot and a lot of work and it's going to be super hard.

Starting point is 00:21:27 But, I mean, there have been people in worse situations than you who've done better for themselves. So why can't you be that person? I love that, man. I love that so much, Elon. So now I want to go next level. So we just talked to the parent. But at some point, Elon, maybe not you because you're an entrepreneur at heart. But for most 20 to 25 to 27-year-olds, you're going to go work for someone else.

Starting point is 00:21:56 Sure. And the modern employee is much different than when I was coming into the work. And I don't necessarily mean younger. I just mean modern. We have much more information at our hands. We have different visions because society is different. You know, when I was coming up, Elon, and I was getting ready to apply for jobs. One of the first three questions when it was my turn to ask questions was always going to be

Starting point is 00:22:24 about the benefits package in retirement. What does that look? I'm going to gander, Elon. You can tell me if I'm wrong. But I don't think a 401k or a pension is in your top three questions when you're looking at employment, right? Am I wrong or am I right? When you ask, are you saying for me or for people my age? For people your age. hit pause on whatever you're listening to and hit play on your next adventure this fall get double points on every qualified stay life's the trip make the most of it at best western visit bestwestern.com for complete terms and conditions like i don't think because my kids are in your age they don't think about 401k or right like it might be something they care about but it's not top three right like my kids care more about talk to me about the culture talk to me about you know how do you promote talk to me about what my goals are like be very clear about what you want me to do and how I succeed I think as modern employees those become the things that are more important because at the end of the day benefits packages are going to be roughly the same right at most places I know that there's people listening and watching and yes I know that there are different tiers of benefits that's not what I'm saying saying, I'm just saying to the modern employee, that's not as important as we think. So, Elon, I'd love for you to elaborate. Yeah, I would agree with you. I'd say a lot of people my age

Starting point is 00:23:56 definitely don't think about retirement packages in 401Ks, especially like once they graduate college, because it seems like it's so far in the future. I think that's another thing as well as people, they're living in the now and they don't account for what's going to matter in like, you know, 40 years or 30 years, especially when they're trying to retire. But that's just from what I observe. Yeah. And I also think, again, the modern employee cares more about the work environment, the team collaboration, right? What do you do from a, they're not going to say emotional intelligence, but how can I make sure my voice is heard within? Right. Like, what have you found to be the number one thing for that? Like if somebody asks, you know, for me, like I would, I think

Starting point is 00:24:43 I would love to be in a leadership position, right? I have my own company be an entrepreneur. What is one thing that you've noticed to be like a big differentiator between leaders? Like how can I be the best leader possible? I know it's a very broad question, but I want to ask. No, to be the best leader possible, you have to be present. Meaning you have to be available, proactive. Every good leader that I know Elon is always present, right?

Starting point is 00:25:10 meaning they're not they're not waiting for people to walk into their door because here's what happened right if Elon if I work for Elon and Elon tells me he's got an open door policy and Mick you can come in anytime you want to well I need Elon to come see me right I need to make sure Elon's present I don't care if it's virtual I don't care if it's in person whatever because when I go see Elon if I have to walk into his door I'm coming with a problem or a resignation line, right? So for you, Elon, I will tell you the best thing you can do as a leader

Starting point is 00:25:44 is be present. I have this saying that if your presence doesn't make a difference, your absence won't either. I really like that. Wow. Yeah. So always be present, proactive. That, to me, that's a key of leadership. Another thing for you as a leader

Starting point is 00:26:04 is to understand your data. also you as a leader and an entrepreneur. You have to understand the data that supports or influences your decision. Don't let data tell the story you want to hear or see. Let data tell the story that is supposed to tell you. I love that. A lot of leaders, they want to hear or see certain things. So they'll find the answer that they're trying to receive versus letting the story, tell them the story. And so for you, I think that's going to be that's going to be really key. And then just

Starting point is 00:26:42 another piece of advice for you, Elon, as you continue to grow and develop, is hire people that fit your values. Don't necessarily worry about trying to find the right seats for them. If you have certain

Starting point is 00:27:00 core values, hire the talent that aligns with those core values and everything is going to work thank you so much for the answer i really appreciate it i felt like i was being interviewed this not man so so let's get out of here i'm going to do your it's i call it my top five my quick five so i know you're sports nuts i know you're in the illinois chicago area who's your favorite sport team and i don't care of the sport who's your favorite team i am not a big like sport team guy. I'm a huge UFC fan, but if anything, I would say I used to be a big

Starting point is 00:27:43 Steelers fan when I was little, but I don't watch football too much anymore. Apparently, if you're a Steelers fan. Apparently not. Apparently not. All right. What's your favorite daily morning routine? I would definitely say waking up early is huge for me. So waking up early, if I can, going out for a run and then taking a cold shower after. That's like, The simple, like, it gets me up and it gets me rolling. Also, sometime, not morning routine, but sometime throughout the day reading a little bit of my book. I try to read 10 pages a day. So I've been doing that, and it's been huge for me.

Starting point is 00:28:19 All right. That leads to the question number three. You're on a deserted island. What's one book you are definitely taking with you? Do I have to get out or I'm just stuck there? Oh, you're stuck there. Okay. I would say probably meditation.

Starting point is 00:28:36 has been Marcus Aurelius. It's my favorite book. I've read it probably seven times. I have it all highlighted. You're not 20. You're really 60. What's been the biggest lesson that you've learned in life so far at 20 years old? The people that go out and look for the answers end up finding them. What about you? What's your biggest lesson? You've spoken to some amazing people. man my so my biggest lesson honestly i'm going to go to the business side versus the personal side my my biggest business lesson came from damon john and he said no matter what you do from a business perspective build it like you're going to sell it even if you're never going to sell it but let that shape the the decisions that that was my my business i love that yep all right Last one. What are the three podcasts that Elon listened? Oh, okay. So my favorite podcast, Modern Wisdom, I've been listening to Forever, Chris Williamson's podcast, and then I will say Real AF and then The Game by Alex Ramosey.

Starting point is 00:29:47 And then honorable mention, Mick Unplugged, obviously. There we go, but no, no, I want your three. Like, I'm good. I don't have to be in the top three. It looks suspicious if I'm in your time. I like it. I like it. Brother, I appreciate you so much, man. tell the viewers and listeners where we can find and follow you yeah you can find me on instagram elan-el-a-n-d-gelfand-d you can listen to my podcast called abundant thinking on all the major platforms you know spotify apple podcasts audible all those stuff just go to my instagram a lot of things around there and you know all those things are always going to be free for you guys

Starting point is 00:30:22 so if you're interested in that always reach out to me as well and yeah make dude thank you being an amazing host, you're awesome, you're doing amazing things. And I just, I appreciate your time more than you can imagine from the bottom of my heart. Brother, I appreciate you more. We're going to have to make this like a recurring theme where quarterly Elon and Mick get together and break it down, bro. That's the dream. That's the dream. Let's do it. Well, to all the viewers and listeners, remember your because is your superpower. Go Unleash it. You've been plugged into Mick Unplugged. Don't just listen. Take action. Rate and subscribe. Follow me on social and get the full experience at mithuntofficial.com.

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