Mick Unplugged - Christopher Kai: Your Story is the Greatest Gift to the World

Episode Date: June 21, 2025

What makes billionaires different isn't just their bank accounts—it's their mindset. Christopher Kai has met over 100 billionaires throughout his career, and he's discovered they share a fundamental... belief: they see themselves as no different from anyone else who has created something significant. From shoveling snow as a seven-year-old in Queens to delivering keynotes on global stages across five countries, Kai's journey exemplifies how authentic storytelling can transform your life and career. As founder of Gifted Professional Speakers and advisor to Fortune 500 companies, his philosophy is refreshingly simple: "Your story is a gift to the world." The fascinating science behind Kai's approach comes from Stanford University research showing leaders who tell great stories are 22 times more memorable than those who don't. This isn't just academic theory—Kai has proven it works in corporate boardrooms, on luxury yachts with billionaires, and even in Saudi Arabia where cultural barriers might otherwise prevent meaningful connection. For those struggling with public speaking anxiety, Kai offers both compassion and practical wisdom. He reveals the evolutionary reasons behind our fear and shares his own journey from pacing nervously before presentations to commanding stages worldwide. His "Three C's of Explosive Success"—connections, credibility, and communication—provide a framework for anyone looking to amplify their voice and impact. Ready to transform your story into your superpower? This conversation will show you why, as Michelangelo said, "The challenge most of us have is not that we aim too high and miss it; we aim too low and reach it." Subscribe now and learn how to aim higher with your voice, your story, and your purpose. Connect & Discover Christopher: Website: https://christopherkai.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherkai/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/christopherkaidom/ X: https://x.com/christopherkai_ YouTube: @ChristopherKai. Book: Story-Based Leadership (coming soon) Book: Work: The 4 Pillars of Productivity (coming soon) Book: Big Game Hunting FOLLOW MICK ON: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mickunplugged/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mickunplugged/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MickUnpluggedPodcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mickhunt/ Website: https://www.mickhuntofficial.com Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mick-unplugged/

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you look at society before there was even written paper that the Chinese invented thousands of years ago, it was stories that your mom and dad talked to you about, your grandfather, your grandmother. And that's why when we talk about life and what I talk about stories, it's not a coincidence that every single thing I do, at least for my brand, gift directs talks. I believe your stories give to the world. Welcome to Mick Unplugged, the number one podcast for self-improvement, leadership, and relentless growth. No fluff, no filters, just heart-hitting truths, unstoppable strategies, and the mindset shifts
Starting point is 00:00:35 that separate the best from the rest. Ready to break limits? Let's go. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of McUnplugged and today we've got a special one for you. We're talking about going from the streets of Queens to global stages across five countries. He's the CEO and founder of the gifted professional speakers and the man whose insights have shaped Fortune 500's,
Starting point is 00:01:05 billionaire entrepreneurs, and global change makers. Today, we're gonna go deep into legacy, purpose, and the business of storytelling with my brother, my friend, the incomparable, Mr. Christopher Kai. Chris, how you doing? What's up, Mick? We're always watching.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Give Mick some love. Let's go, let's go, let's go. Chris, man, you know, met you, what, seven, eight months ago. We were in LA at a Les Brown event, and I've been a huge follower of yours on social media, you know, looked at a lot of your content, studied a lot of your content. And when I met you, man, like, what I loved
Starting point is 00:01:43 and what I appreciated was that you were just a dude. Yeah. Right? Like you're just a dude at the core and we were cutting up. We were doing the robot out on the dance floor. Like you were about to break dance like with your New York flair and all that. But I just appreciated the fact that you were a dude, bro.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Yeah, I mean, Franklin, making, when you meet people, when you're on stages, I mean, I literally wrote a book about networking with billionaires and executives, and I've easily met over 100 billionaires and celebrities and virility. And so we actually meet that level of success, at least on the outside, you start seeing what do you want to be on the inside. And if you saw that, I more felt my vibe as a dude, because that's what my mom raised me as, right?
Starting point is 00:02:23 She was an immigrant from Hong Kong. My father and my mother immigrated from Hong Kong to the US and they raised three boys. I'm the youngest one. So I always remember, I want to remember my roots, right? It's when I meet you, good dude, good heart, good spirit, because at the end of the day, it's easy to flex and show certain things you might have, which is cool. Everyone wants to do their own vibe. But the fact that you feel that way, I'm grateful because that's the vibe I want from people that I meet. Yeah, man, I love it, brother.
Starting point is 00:02:50 So growing up in Queens, I like to ask people about their because, that thing that is their purpose, their real reason of doing what they do. If I were to say today, Christopher Kai, what's your because? Why do you keep doing the things that you do man? It's still the same because when I was a six year old kid talking a lot in first grade at St. Mary's Elementary School in Woodside Queens, Fort Mildred, East Manhattan where
Starting point is 00:03:15 I just wanted to talk. The difference is now that I know there's a purpose in life beyond just sharing words is really how can we serve? How can we serve individuals? You'll get someone like Michael Jordan, when people ask him, hey, why do you still go on courts and shoot balls? I was like, well, someone in that audience
Starting point is 00:03:33 might not have seen me. And for those who don't have a genuine, authentic value in yourself, you might look at me and say, well, how dare you compare yourself to Michael Jordan? Well, how dare me not? He's a human being as you and I are. And I know that I'm a gift from God
Starting point is 00:03:48 and my mother raised me, right? So when you start seeing that we all are similar in terms of our value, then you're okay saying, yeah, I don't mind comparing myself with Michael Jordan. If he's a goat, I'm a goat, right? But it's still the same purpose. But now it makes you know, when you see these people and you meet these people and you feel their heart, how can you not go on?
Starting point is 00:04:06 How can you not serve? Because we all know we're going to be here for a short time, at least physically. But if I have the ability to literally be flying to Atlanta in a few days and speak in front of a thousand people, or be on a yacht tomorrow, or be speaking at one of the largest realtor associations in the whole country of the United States, why wouldn't you, right? Because how many people can actually do what we do? Meaning we actually genuinely love what we do.
Starting point is 00:04:31 We get to serve people and make a good living, right? So from the moment I am here to let's say Andrew Young, I don't know if you've ever met Andrew Young. Yeah. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s ambassador. That boy is like 90 years old. Or when I met Reebok co-founder, who I interviewed recently for Gifter X Talks,
Starting point is 00:04:50 which is one of my speaker platforms, it's been called the TED Talks for Entrepreneurs, he's 90 years old. When I interviewed the TED founder, who created the TED Talks, who literally created this renaissance of public speaking, he just turned 90 years old, right? So whether you're 90, 30, 20, 50,
Starting point is 00:05:06 or a young man like yourself, maybe you're 28, who knows, you know? It's about service to others, but as business owners, why not be a business owner? We are living in the most catatonic-ly inspiring yet scary time in human history where technology has always moved things forward. But with AI, if you're not on that AI ride,
Starting point is 00:05:29 you're gonna be left behind. This is not instilling fear. This is just letting you know, I'm not a tech guy, but if I can use AI as a non-tech guy to help my business, help my clients, you have to really understand how the world can be moved exponentially forward. This isn't no linear thing. This is like when Jeff Bezos talks about it's like electricity.
Starting point is 00:05:52 If you think about that, process that, that AI is like electricity, which affects everything. It's kind of an inspiring time we live in now. Oh, totally, man. And we're only in the empathy stages of AI. What AI is going to be tomorrow and next month and 12 months from now is going to be night and day of what it is and what it's capable of today. So I totally agree. Christopher, man, you're a man of many talents. And I talk to you about this offline all the time.
Starting point is 00:06:22 But I think one of your greatest gifts is storytelling. You've made many comments and you talk about it in your books, that leaders who are great storytellers are 22 times more likely to be memorable. Talk to us, the listeners and viewers, a little bit about the science behind that, and more importantly, why storytelling is something that is a common theme
Starting point is 00:06:47 with every billionaire, every great entrepreneur that you're associated with. Yeah, let's first give credit to the person from Stanford University. Her name is Professor Jennifer Acker. So she studied this actual science of storytelling, right? So Jennifer Acker, I've never met her before, but I love learning about the science, right?
Starting point is 00:07:03 So the fact is, if people have studied this at Stanford at that level, right? It gives you this credence and awareness that it is important. But when you think of that as the most basic things, how do we meet? At a Les Brown event, who is the goat of public speaking, seven months ago.
Starting point is 00:07:19 So we're already building our story, our history, right? But if you look at society, before there was before it was even written paper that the Chinese invented thousands of years ago, it was stories that your mom and dad talked to you about, your grandfather, your grandmother. And that's why when we talk about life and what I talk about stories, it's not a coincidence that every single thing I do, at least for my brand, gift directs talks. I believe your story is a gift to the world. GPS, gifted professional speaker. I believe your story is a gift to the world. GPS, gifted professional speaker.
Starting point is 00:07:45 I teach entrepreneurs how to be speakers. The gifters podcast, my podcast. Because imagine in a networking world, in a relationship world, that every single time you met someone, you're either giving a gift, i.e. your story, or receiving a gift,
Starting point is 00:07:59 which is feeling their heart. And even your story, right? Last time we spoke, dude, you're a South Carolina guy. You're going back to your home I asked you why because if you don't share your story especially the more vulnerable ones you're not really connecting on a deeper level it's very easy to be surfaces oh yeah I make how are you have written seven books I have shared the stage with President Clinton President Trump Richard Branson, Bill Gates, who cares?
Starting point is 00:08:26 But if you know that I've had struggles as you have, I've had challenges, I have obstacles, those are the challenges, obstacles and things that we allow ourselves to catapult ourselves future. So anyone who's listening or watching, whatever you see in Mick or myself, it's good to admire us, but don't put us on a pedestal because we're human beings and that's why I love what you said literally is what my good friend Michael Lee said I've known him since college when I was on his when I was in his wedding party he said you know I really
Starting point is 00:08:59 admire that you're real and genuine. I've had many compliments and many criticisms and many shout outs, right? But dude, literally, I just literally say dude still, because when you lose that authenticity, you've lost your soul. And especially when you're rolling in circles as I am, I literally still take public transportation deliberately to remind myself to know what real people are.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Because if you lose sight of that, yeah, I can be on the yacht and private jets and mansion parties and penthouse, they're nice. I'm not gonna deny that. But if we lose track of who the people are, who I am, who I was, who my mother was as an immigrant, I mean, it's important, you know? No, wholeheartedly, man. What are some other traits? Because you
Starting point is 00:09:49 work with so many entrepreneurs, you work with, I'd say ton of billionaires, they're not ton of billionaires, but you work with a good percentage of them, right? Like you, you have a good batting average when it comes to working with billionaires. What are some other traits that you see that they have in common that are important for us to understand, for us to work towards? That's a great question, Mick.
Starting point is 00:10:10 I mean, first, let's talk about why you should even learn from billionaires. You know, some people, I don't even want to be a billionaire. I've met enough billionaires. It's more about a mindset. For instance, if there are eight billion people in the world and you know there's only 3,028 billionaires according to Forbes Magazine,
Starting point is 00:10:27 and if you are a capitalist, and if you're an entrepreneur, and if you're a business person, which all of you should be frankly, even if you're an employee working for some man or woman, why would you not wanna learn from the Picasso's, the Dalí's, and the Michelangelo's of capitalism? That's how I thought. It's less about how much money they've made,
Starting point is 00:10:42 it's the fact that there's eight billion people, and only 3,020 of them are billionaires, why am I gonna waste my time learning from someone else? And so when you realize that, okay, I wanna learn from the Picasso's, I wanna learn from my Glander, it's really an art form. You look at a Mark Cuban, he's like,
Starting point is 00:10:57 I love business, because it's the most creative thing in the world, right? So first is letting everyone know why you should learn from billionaires. And the key things that most of them have have at least the self-made ones are They're like what I just said. I don't mind comparing myself with Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant I'm not a basketball player, but if I am a goat meaning I've spoken at the top corporate events I spoken to the top self-development events. I spoken for the crime princes charity in Saudi Arabia, you know
Starting point is 00:11:22 I've spoken for a prince in Thailand. So I'm just saying for the Crown Prince's charity in Saudi Arabia. You know, I've spoken for a prince in Thailand. So I'm just saying, recognizing that they have this mindset that Steve Jobs once said, once you realize that you are no different from someone else that created the laptop that we're on right now, that created the actual lights that are looking at me,
Starting point is 00:11:40 that created the camera, that created the microphone, if you realize that every single one of those people, man or woman, created the very things that we're using right now, then why shouldn't you be more bold and more excited? Because Michelangelo, going back to art, once said the challenge that most of us have is not whether we aim too high and miss it,
Starting point is 00:11:58 we aim too low and reach it. I'll say that again, Michelangelo, and mind you, for those of you listening and watching, Michelangelo was in his 20s who crafted this thing called David 500 years ago in his 20s, but he said that most of people's challenges is not that they aim too high and miss it, they aim too low and reach it. That's powerful, brother. That's powerful. You know, I talked about one of your skill sets being storytelling.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I'm going to tell you, and I'm looking you in your eye, and you know how I feel about you. I don't know if there's three other speaker development coaches in the world that are better than Christopher Cot. Right? So being able to tell your story is one thing, Christopher, but being able to then go on stage, especially that first time, that first time you get on stage,
Starting point is 00:12:53 it's a little bit different. So how do you coach speakers? I don't want secret sauce, but what are the first three or four things that you're working on when a speaker comes to you or someone that wants to really get into it? Because again, telling your story is one thing, but being able to tell it on stage in a commanding presence is a totally different one.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Yeah, that's a great question. And just to be clear, when I teach my clients how to speak, it's either for corporations, I'm speaking at eBay, Amazon, Google, or more of the post-development space where you're offering a program and selling a program, right? So the first thing is just recognizing why are people afraid?
Starting point is 00:13:30 And again, there's a lot of physiology involved with it because if you're on stage, I'm on stage. Back in the day, if you're away from an audience, a group, a tribe, you have a higher probability of being eaten by a bear, a lion, or a wildebeest, right? So you have to understand why are we afraid? And then we look at objectively, okay, when you see someone on stage,
Starting point is 00:13:49 hmm, I don't really like Christopher's face or his eye color or his hair. It's kind of thin, you know? So we are very critical. So I first laid down the bare foundations of accepting the fact that, you know what? I've been in a lot of stages, met a lot of people. And then in the day, no matter how you look, no matter how your English may not
Starting point is 00:14:09 be your first language, if you share with your heart, they'll vibe with that. And those that don't, I don't know if I can curse but f them. You know, the reality is, you don't have to please everyone, you know, I have some people like me, some people don't. but I just know genuinely if they are feeling my heart and they're learning, and yeah, I will tell you something, why shouldn't I, right?
Starting point is 00:14:32 If they accept that biologically, physiologically, where are the oddballs? Where are the weird ones that actually want to be on stage because we're literally opening up vulnerability. So if you accept the fact that physiologically, you're not supposed to be on stage because you're literally wanting and allowing yourself to be more vulnerable
Starting point is 00:14:51 from a physiological standpoint. We all think that we're so rational and logical, but from our brain system, we have the prefrontal cortex, which is more the rational, imaginary side. We have this thing called the Olympic system where there's a thing called the amygdala and you're a science guy. So it's like the actual fight or flight. So if you just understand
Starting point is 00:15:09 basic biology and know that when I started in high school and in college, I was literally pacing outside the room before going into the room to give a speech. My palms were sweaty. My stomach was churning. I was looking back and forth, I was pacing. And I remember telling one of my friends named Dustin in college, he's a Christopher, you walk back and forth, you pace around when you speak. I'm like, do I? No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Again, my ego likes to share his opinion, but he showed me the video. And there I was, walking back and forth. Now, if I walk back and forth, it's because I wanna show love to everyone on stage and everyone off stage, because it really is a skillset and an art. And so anyone I talk to, I first always ask them,
Starting point is 00:15:54 hey Mick, what is your end goal? Do you wanna inspire people? Do you wanna make money? What do you wanna do, right? It's always understanding who your audience is, because whenever I meet people that brag about how much they love speaking and have a lot of ego, I run the other way.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I don't care how much money they have. It's actually easier for me to coach someone who's humble and is not that skilled in speaking because I've literally break down what they've learned in the past to rebuild what they want to do in the future. Because in the speaking world, especially in the speaking to sell world,
Starting point is 00:16:23 meaning you're speaking on stage and selling a program like Les Brown does, he is a goat in so many levels because he's 80 years old as you know, Mick, but I just want to always never assume who's listening and watching. This man is 80 years old. And you know this, Mick, because we both met him. He's like a father figure to you. This man, his heart, his spirit, he still has that jovial, happy, innocent laugh as if I met him at an eight-year-old kid.
Starting point is 00:16:47 That's what I hope to be like when I'm 80. And even the age thing, doesn't matter. It's like if you have a voice, which all of you have, if you have a purpose to serve and you wanna make money, which all of you should have, then you should start speaking by first accepting where you're at. Don't compare, make or myself.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Know that we're all on a journey. As long as you compare yourself with how you were yesterday. Meaning if you, let's say, have issues with immensely your words. And I still have an issue immensely in my words. And if you can say something like strategy or setenta in Spanish, which means 70, because sometimes I mumble those words
Starting point is 00:17:24 and I did it better than yesterday. Great job, Christopher Kai, great job, Mick. So for those who are watching, don't be so impressed with who we might be, at least where we are now. Look back at the journey. Look back at the struggles, look back at the sacrifice, because I know Mick, we're getting to know each other,
Starting point is 00:17:41 but I can feel your heart. Every time you talk to me, there's a sense of deference and respect. Every time you talk to me, there's a sense of deference and respect. Every time you talk to Les Brown, is that a coincidence that I feel the same way as you do to Les? It's as a respect. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Totally, man. Totally. So where did this all start, right? And by start, again, I know a lot, but I want you to be able to tell the audience, you know, speaking for corporations, everybody doesn't land that opportunity. And again, this is the genius of Christopher Kai.
Starting point is 00:18:18 You can get it once if you're there, but to be, as I call it, bankable, to get the repeat, hey Christopher, we need you for this event, we need you for that event. How did that journey for Christopher Kai start, brother? You know, from an entrepreneur standpoint, seven-year-old Christopher Kai was knocking on doors in my neighbor's home when it was really cold in New York City and just sink,
Starting point is 00:18:41 and I shovel your yard, your porch, your driveway, and when you're a seven-year-old kid not having a lot of money you have like a hundred bucks in your hand you're like rich right from a very early age a lot of entrepreneurs start that young but from a business standpoint as a speaker it started when I was in college where a young man named Henry was a buddy of mine he's like running for office and he's like I want to be like Christopher I want wanna be charismatic. It was someone else telling me that I was charismatic
Starting point is 00:19:07 and I didn't even know that meant, right? So it's just, that's why I love coaching by the way, Mick. It's like, I get to recognize who they are. Not who they think they are, but I know who they are from their heart. And then lastly, when I was, I think 26, I was at an all black, Pentecostal church in San Francisco, Connecticut. At that point I wrote a book about college success and my
Starting point is 00:19:29 Colleague at American Express was also a pastor named Reverend Desmond Hamilton. I'll never forget this He asked me to speak at his church. They're literally speaking in tongues at one point before I walk in. I'm like, what's going on? I grew up Catholic, but it's all good. Are you praising Lord? I'm down with this. Give my speech, sell a few books, I'm all happy. But Mick, he hands me a check for $50. And I'm like, whoa, I'm rich. Because again, you rewind all those times I was punished and teased and told I was stupid, told I was ugly, I was really short.
Starting point is 00:20:02 But a man of faith, a man of stature, a man of authority, it didn't matter if he gave me a quarter, even five cents a penny, I'm like, wow. And now I made a little more than $50 for a speech, but it's always those moments. That's why I want to remind everyone on this call, this podcast, man, just go out there and share your story on Instagram and in in time, you get more bankable when you become more branded. Not I'm a branded speaker. Where I didn't know this whole stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:20:33 Like I almost wanna cry every time I meet people because they think it's just a story. They think it's just their content. They think it's just their heart, but I don't want them to go through the pain that I went through. Eight years writing my first book, having a website, having speeches,
Starting point is 00:20:50 spending hundreds if not thousands of hours and a lot of money. And me, if I was more smart, I would have hired a coach earlier because I ended up moving my ego away and my arrogance away and ignorance and ended up hiring a guy named Dan Pointer. God rest his soul. He's since passed away, but he wrote over a hundred books at a seminar in Santa Barbara.
Starting point is 00:21:10 I literally flew out there, didn't have the money, bought his program, didn't have the money. He upsold me, didn't have the money. But guess what? That eight years could have been eight weeks because after investing in a coach, I exponentially improve my awareness and ability. Not what I think I need to do to write a book. Now I knew what to do because this man wrote over a hundred books. That's what for me, I've easily given over a thousand presentations globally for anything. That's why it pains me because usually, especially with men sometimes
Starting point is 00:21:40 that have had some success, I tell them what I charge and they like, they look at me as like a real, like really like, do you want to spend 20 plus hours, 10s of 1000s hours that last year alone make you want to guess how many miles I flew last year alone. Tell me close to 200,000 miles. That's more than seven times. That's just one year. So people asked me to help them. You're it's really a pay to play model because I'm a coach and a consultant, right? It's like if you don't recognize the amount of time I've spent, and you
Starting point is 00:22:11 don't honor my value, and you don't have the ability to pay me, that's okay. I still think you're a good person. I just don't realize that when people go to school, they go to a restaurant, if you go to a nice five-star restaurant, are you gonna eat that meal? And if it didn't meet your expectations, you're like, I don't wanna pay the restaurant. And like, it's so insulting if you're a coach or speaker, know your value and charge for it,
Starting point is 00:22:36 because frankly, if you have a job and a salary, and why wouldn't you wanna charge for it? Especially if you have a voice as you do, you know? No, wholeheartedly, I agree with that 1000%. as you do, you know? No, wholeheartedly. I agree with that a thousand percent. And you know, one of my other mentors, you know, very well, Damon John, right? So Damon, when I started the consulting piece outside of my insurance business, I was like, Damon, I don't know what to charge, right?
Starting point is 00:23:00 Like, I feel like I'm always going to have to prove myself. And he said, Mick, you charge what you're worth. And as long as one person or one entity is willing to charge you that, then that is your worth right there. And so I think a lot of times when people look at, I'm gonna say coaches, but I'm gonna say Chris, you're more of a sponsor, right?
Starting point is 00:23:19 Because yeah, you coach, but the real person that you are is you help people get into rooms that they belong in. You help people get on stages that you are. And to me, that's the difference between coaching, mentoring, and sponsor. I can coach you, I can mentor you, but I pride myself on being a sponsor, meaning I am going to put you in the actual places. I'm going to get you in the rooms. And that is literally who you are. And so I love that fact because one, you already know you're worth every penny,
Starting point is 00:23:49 but two, for those that are listening, that's what separates Christopher. He's not just gonna coach you. He's not just gonna mentor you. He is going to put you on stages. He is going to get you in front of opportunities. And that's what makes my guy Christopher very special. It's about transformation, man. Do you want to transition or transformation?
Starting point is 00:24:08 I mean it literally, just like all the mentors, coaches and trainers that I've met through my life. For me, it's about three C's of explosive success. We look at gunpowder, Mick. Do you know how many basic qualities there are in gunpowder? You know what the basic qualities are in gunpowder? What's that? It's literally just charcoal, sulfur, and potassium nitrate. But in business, regardless of what scale,
Starting point is 00:24:25 whether you're at five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, it doesn't really matter. It's connections, credibility, and communication. I figured out, okay, I'm going to get them in the right room, i.e. network. But I realized they don't have the credibility to help build their personal brand. And lastly, even if they have that,
Starting point is 00:24:41 they don't have to communicate. You're a great communicator. You're genuine, you're humble, you're authentic, you're respectful, you're a great person. of credibility is to help build their personal brand. And lastly, even if they have that, they don't have to communicate. You're a great communicator. You're genuine, you're humble, you're authentic, you're respectful, but communicating is also on a stage and that's a different skill set. So if I can help my clients build their connections,
Starting point is 00:24:57 build the credibility and build the communication skills, they realistically can pursue whatever the dream they are. Whether they wanna make the first million, 10 million, 100 million, billion, it doesn't really matter because at every scale, in every country, in every culture, I literally spoke in Saudi Arabia. I talked about leadership.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I talked about heart. And this woman who's a Saudi woman, mind you, she's fully in her job. I can only see your eyes. As an American, I can hear her voice like, oh my gosh, Christopher, you talk about Chinese character, about leadership. My first inclination was to hug her,
Starting point is 00:25:27 but obviously that's not appropriate in the Muslim culture, but she wasn't American, wasn't a man, but what I'm saying is when you speak with your heart, you can connect with anyone. And for those who are listening and hearing what we're talking about, you have a purpose to serve and your story is a gift and it's like a seed. You're not placed in this earth to just keep that seed
Starting point is 00:25:50 in your hand. You're placed in this earth to place those seeds of your story into someone's heart. The more you connect with people, the more genuine people and you have to, again, don't worry about, oh my gosh, Christopher, Mick, you guys are so amazing. What if they don't like me? Who cares? You don't need everyone to like you. But as long as you speak with your heart and authenticity and you're a good, genuine person, you're good. All day, all day. Christopher, you know we could do this all day, right? We're going to have to have some of those behind the scenes moments that you and I have and give people insights to some of those conversations
Starting point is 00:26:25 if we can. But man, where can people follow and find you? ChristopherKai.com, my last name is K-A-I, Instagram, ChristopherKaiDum, K-A-I-D-U-M, not kingdom, but KaiDum. Hit me up there, love to hear what your thoughts are. And Mick, thank you so much for the opportunity. If you want to learn more about Nick,
Starting point is 00:26:44 make sure you reach out to him. Absolutely brother, I appreciate it. I will make sure that we have links in the show notes so all the great things you have going on. Next time we do this, we're gonna get into some of your books too because Chris is also a best selling author. We got this.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Exactly. This is actually what I'm most excited about. It's actually the Wizard of Words, how to speak, persuade and sell like Steve Jobs. That's the one that's coming out this year. There we go. Well, we'll make sure that we actually have a second conversation to promote
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