Mick Unplugged - Dr. Benjamin Ritter | Empowered Careers: Lessons in Leadership and Unlocking Your Potential
Episode Date: August 26, 2024In this insightful episode, Mick Hunt sits down with Dr. Benjamin Ritter to explore the critical aspects of leadership, career fulfillment, and personal development. Dr. Ritter shares his expertise on... creating fulfilling work environments and empowering individuals to take control of their careers. They discuss the importance of confidence, the dangers of workplace negativity, and the value of immersive learning for leadership development. Dr. Ritter also introduces his upcoming book, which provides practical tips for living fearlessly and achieving professional success.Dr. Benjamin Ritter's Background:Expert in organizational leadership with a passion for personal development.Dedicated his career to helping individuals find purpose and achieve their professional goals.The author of the upcoming book focused on living fearlessly and achieving career fulfillment.Defining Moments:Dr. Ritter discusses his personal journey from professional dissatisfaction to becoming a leadership coach, driven by the desire to help others avoid the same pitfalls.The decision to write his book distills years of insights into actionable tips for living fearlessly and confidently.Discussion Topics:The importance of organizational leadership and how it impacts company efficiency and employee satisfaction.The alarming statistic is that 64% of people feel unfulfilled at work, and what it means for businesses.Common challenges individuals face in their careers, such as lack of confidence and the prevalence of negativity, and how to overcome them.Building confidence in leadership and the necessity of taking pride in one’s work.The toxic effects of negativity in the workplace and the responsibility of leaders to champion positivity.Dr. Ritter's approach to personal development emphasizes the need for immersive learning and proactive career management.Key Quotes:"If you are working at a company, about half to three-fourths of the people you meet are waiting for a better opportunity.""Negativity is infectious. It becomes the billboard people drive by daily on the way to work.""You have to act as if you've already been promoted. Don't wait for permission."Next Steps:Explore: Connect with Dr. Ritter on LinkedIn and visit Live for Yourself Consulting to learn more about his work and upcoming book.Reflect: Consider how you can take pride in your work and proactively manage your career.Engage: Share your thoughts on this episode and how you plan to apply Dr. Ritter’s insights using #MickUnplugged.Connect & Discover:LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/drbenjaminritter-leadershipdevelopmentInstagram: Instagram.com/drbenjaminritterWebsite: www.liveforyourselfconsulting.comPodcast: The Executive         Live FearlesslyYoutube: @DrBenjaminRitterBook: Becoming Fearless ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Mick Unplugged. And today's exceptional
guest is a renowned leadership and career coach who has dedicated his life to helping others find
their purpose and achieve their professional goals. With the background in organizational
leadership and a passion for personal development, he's guided countless individuals to unlock their
potential and lead with confidence. As a speaker, author, and consultant, his insights and strategies
have been transformative to many. Please join me in welcoming the inspirational, the influential Austin, Texas is on Dr. Benjamin
Ritter.
Dr. Ritter, how are you doing today, brother?
Pretty good.
Now, anyone listening, this is your opportunity to clap.
Like wherever you are in the world, just start clapping, standing ovation if you're sitting
down, not if you're driving.
People are going to look at you and be like, what are you doing?
Like, well, you don't know.
Dr. Ritter is on Nick Unplugged. So you got to listen to this
episode. Absolutely. So Dr. Ritter, I want to get into, especially with your background, man,
like I have an MBA with a track in organizational leadership. And I feel, you know, in the
professional world, people don't put enough emphasis on organizational leadership, right?
It's like, you know, I've got a small business, even a mid-sized business, and I'm supposed to have a manager. Maybe I should have
a director or a VP, might even have a COO, CFO, VP of sales. But then collectively, how do I make
those things work together? I'd love to hear your insights on your journey with leadership,
but in particular, organizational leadership. Yeah, I'm personally passionate, and I imagine you are too, on how leaders grow specifically within organizations. And so people
hear organizational leadership, and they're like, oh, organizational behavior, I know what that is.
No, it's very much people tend to focus on like the operations and the efficiencies of an
organization, but they miss the people. I don't know how you could focus on organizational behavior
without actually focusing on organizational leadership. How are people leading the individuals in your company
to make sure that it's effective and efficient, et cetera.
I'm interested in this field very selfishly
because I never want anyone to deal with a work environment
or mentality towards work that I had.
I was a very unhappy, burnt out, underutilized,
blame forward, I blamed everyone around me
for the situation that I was in
professional. And because of that mindset, I did not take advantage of at least seven years of my
career, at least not including what happened below before that. And so when I decided to go into this
field, I didn't have anyone I could count on or lean on or get support from. I did not have those positive relationships.
I didn't see my authority as helpful.
I didn't really take advantage of the job that I was in.
I see a lot of people miss out on that.
And I didn't know how to manage up
and to create an environment that helped me grow
and succeed in a company.
And so my passion for organizational leadership
is kind of this like, well,
how do we just make places really great
for people to work at?
And then how do we help leaders do that for their teams?
That's amazing.
And I'm going to share a stat because I just did a talk on this two weeks ago.
I don't know if the people listening know, and I want to hit on what you said, Dr. Ritter.
64% of people feel unfulfilled at work.
They show up because it pays the bills.
And I'm just going to be as blunt as possible.
So for 64% of your staff, they're there
because right now they don't have another option.
And I stress right now.
Dr. Ritter, number one,
what are your thoughts on that statistic?
Yeah, and please call me Ben.
It's easier on the tongue when moving forwards.
And I know I made like a very ego driven
kind of first comment around applause,
but really it was in jest.
I'm at everyone's level, no judgment towards anyone. I am who I am. You are who you are.
We are equals in every way, shape or the form, even listeners. I mean, you have some strengths
that I don't know about. You could knock me out of the park. And so what I'm telling you is just
what I've dedicated my current life to and this current job and career and feel free to disagree.
But if you are working at a company, about half to three fourths of the people that you meet are waiting for a better opportunity. And so they're going into work every single day
wondering how to survive instead of really trying to figure out how to succeed. That's kind of scary
when you think about it. I was there. I've been there. I mean, sometimes I'm still there some
days. How do I just get through today? Not how do I make today help me for tomorrow? Or how do I
just enjoy today? How do I take pride
in today? I have a book coming out at the end of September. It kind of depends on when you
listen to this. It's 2024. And one of the entries in there is about taking pride in your work.
I made the mistake, and every entry is from experience that I had, and I made the mistake
of going into work not caring about what I did and instead blaming my leaders and my job for not giving me the meaning
and the satisfaction that I wanted. And I totally gave away my power. And every single day we go
into work, we have the opportunity to say, how do I make today valuable for me? And almost 75%
of people going into work right now are wondering, how do I get away with not working? That's scary.
That's crazy. In your field, in your experience, what are some common challenges that people face in
their career when it goes, I guess, towards fulfillment?
And how do you help them overcome those obstacles?
Well, people that tend to come to work with me are generally unfulfilled, but at the same
time, they feel like they're not doing enough.
They feel like they're underutilized.
They don't feel like they found where they're going to excel and where their home needs to be for their career. Like half the time, maybe a third of the time, 100% true,
the person's just in a really, I'd say a third of the time, in a negative environment. This person
looks around them, this environment is not going to help them, it's not aligned with the things
that they actually want to do in life, and they need to maybe pivot or shift industries. That can
happen. I'd actually say the majority of the time people are scarred
by a previous work experience or a leader or a belief about how they're supposed to show up to
work, or maybe they don't have a lot of confidence. And so they let the needs of other people take
over theirs. And so they have completely and utterly created a job for themselves that does
not put their needs or career first. And so they
say yes to things they shouldn't say yes to. That means their boundaries and their time is spent in
places that it doesn't need to be. They think work is important, but they don't really know what
their priorities or expectations are. They have no true understanding of what they're trying to
work towards in terms of their career. And they put themselves in a work environment that isn't
really positive or uplifting or supportive or
has a certain level of mentorship. So we talk about this with self-leadership. They don't have
clarity over their career, who they are. They don't have confidence in themselves. And so that
leads to a lot of issues. So they don't actually set a direction for their career or stand up for
what they need or speak up to potentially get the visibility they need within an organization.
So they're really just kind of sitting there and doing their job and just doing your job, doing a good job, doing an amazing job isn't generally
enough to help you get to where you need to be, especially when you're burnt out and exhausted.
And then they just put up with negativity. They don't set boundaries. They allow themselves to
be in a negative environment. They play the victim. And so their environment automatically
becomes negative because you can't create a positive environment when you see the world
through negative lenses either. There's so much that I wanna unpack and unplug right here,
because this is gold.
I wanna start with, you hit on something about confidence,
and I've, again, followed you for a while,
and I know one of the things that you talk about
is confidence in leadership.
So how do you help individuals build that trait?
Ooh, confidence.
If there's one trait in the world
that could probably create peace.
No, I'm just kidding.
And if we believed in ourselves
and didn't have to feel like we needed to prove ourselves,
or didn't feel that we had to hold back our thoughts
and beliefs because we're worried about consequences.
If we went into work each and every single day,
knowing that we'd be okay, that we'd find another job,
I would love to work in an environment like that.
Competence is two main things, really.
It's a belief in your own skills, which is just,
okay, you can go read a book, listen to a podcast, which a lot of people do not do, especially leaders,
when they doubt how great they are at leadership,
or they have a difficult employee,
they don't just type into their podcast app
how to have a difficult conversation,
which is sometimes the easiest trick.
But it's belief in your skills and then belief in yourself. And belief in yourself is probably the trump card.
I mean, if people are happy at work and they believe in themselves and generally they respect
others, I don't care how good you are at anything. If you're happy, go for it. But generally,
I work with leaders that care very deeply about being better leaders and they do not believe in
themselves, which is hilarious because generally people that come to hire a coach to get better at being a leader are probably pretty good leaders unless
they've been forced to go hire a coach because you care and you probably have a growth mindset.
You believe that you can change. And generally that level of approach when it comes to leader
overall, that human centric approach can be really powerful. So in terms of like confidence,
people tend to act like their position. So if they don't have confidence, they don't act like the next position, which is what
you need to do to be able to grow in your career. You are not a role. You are not your job. You are
your skills and expertise. And if you can't show up that way, you're going to limit your own growth
and potential. And then also, if you are not confident and you don't believe in yourself,
you don't know what you stand for and you don't know what your priorities or expectations are, that's
if you ask for them, because generally unconfident leaders do not ask for feedback, you end up
doing everything.
And if you do everything, then you do nothing.
And people don't really need a Swiss army knife.
They need you to show up with the skills that energize you and will help the organization
grow overall.
No, that's amazing.
And the second thing that I want to unplug that you talked about
was negativity. And I have a friend who is on job number three in 2024. And I have this belief,
Ben, and you're the professional, so I'm going to let you attack my belief. But I believe that
negativity bleeds out, it bleeds up, it bleeds down. And if you're a person that seeks or always finds negativity,
maybe it's a you issue or challenge, right? Like if you ask people, tell me about your day or what
was great about your day or what was good about your day, and the first two responses you get are
the things that went wrong all day, every day, maybe it's a you problem or a then problem.
And I think one of the things that leaders have to be very cognizant of is the negativity that they can be putting out into their organization. Because
to me, it spreads like wildfire. It's probably, to me, the number one reason why most unsuccessful
businesses are unsuccessful. It has zero to do with marketing strategy, has zero to do with sales.
It genuinely has to do with negativity or a negative mindset that then bleeds down to
everyone else.
Negativity is infectious for sure.
Let's say we take out the number one cause for business failure, controlling costs.
We actually talk about culture and mindset because that might even trump it.
That might even take over.
So your perception of the world and the attitude that you bring as a leader,
it creates the culture of a company. And I don't care what the values are, if the CEO gets up in
a town hall and celebrates something or is trying to impact the culture in a positive way. If your
leader or if you as a leader are negative in any way, shape or form, that becomes the billboard
that people drive by every day on the way to work. It becomes the one thing that they see.
And I was working with a client the other day, and she was kind of in the middle of
some gossip, pretty serious gossip on the executive team.
We were kind of working through it, like how to react, how to manage the situation.
And it came up that the strategy that would be really helpful would be to tell the person
to go give the feedback to the other individual and to not feed it, to not feed the negativity,
to not feed the critic, to not feed the types of values that you don't want in your
company. And it was kind of like this big light bulb moment, this epiphany, because if someone
is negative and there's negativity around you, oftentimes we tend to try to connect with that
individual. We try to say, yeah, you're right. This is terrible because we want to strengthen
and build the relationship. But that's one of the worst things you can do because what you're doing
there is just compounding negativity in your company and organization. And as a leader, you can say a
bunch of great positive things. And oftentimes we don't. Leaders tend not to give enough positive
recognition or to celebrate enough things. You say one negative thing, you say one thing against
the company, you say one negative thing about a project or a client or a person, and that is going to become law. And to change that,
it takes a lot of debate. And it's like, I think the ratio was, in terms of recommendation,
seven to one, how many positive things you have to say to one negative thing for it to
cancel itself out. And I imagine that might even be a little bit more for a leader today.
Ultimately, a leader's job, other than leading and helping people grow is to champion the organization
no matter what the decision is, period.
You are not an individual contributor anymore.
If you have complaints,
go take them to your personal relationships.
Because if you start complaining within a company at all,
especially to your direct reports or to your peers,
you will one, give them a reason
to disengage from the company.
So you will give them a reason to be unhappy. And you will also be seen as someone that does not go not interested in
championing and growing with the company itself. It is I say it's it's it should be in the job
description. I don't know if you've seen any job description that lists this as a bullet point
must champion and be positive about what the company chooses to do. Not not in the ideation
or brainstorming process, but in the distribution and teaching and the explaining and the support once a change is made.
That's deep stuff, man. I would love to hear or for you to be able to tell the listeners and
viewers, because I know a little bit, but your approach to personal development, what strategies
do you find most effective for unlocking potential in leaders?
You pick that leader up and you put them around everything that they want to be.
I have this immersive approach to learning. And if you look at learning theory, and I've
probably studied this in terms of organizational leadership, learning theory or applied learning,
how people learn is through as many different modalities as you can find. And they have
generally a preference towards it, but immersive. They have to be immersed within the environment of the learning
that they're trying to grow into. Just like with languages, you try to learn a language,
you can play Duolingo or an app as much as you want, but until you go start having conversations
and be forced to live your life within that country where that language is required,
you probably will not become fluent or be able to use it appropriately. So if you're a leader and
you're trying to grow your leadership skills,
you have to immerse yourself as much as possible.
So that might mean expanding your relationships in the company,
might mean expanding them outside the company.
So finding some mentors.
It 100% means that you have to then be learning
about what you're trying to actually develop,
not just in the work environment, but through books, through podcasts.
By the way, I didn in the work environment, but through books, through podcasts. By the way,
I didn't mention this yet, but open up your podcast app and leave a great review for Mick Unplugged because he's providing some awesome content out there. And if you mean
number one way to pay it forward is to leave a review and actually any content that you enjoy.
If you listen to a podcast or a book, share that with someone because another way to learn is to
teach. And so basically you're looking at your life and saying, what do I do during my day? What types of content do I
take in? What types of people do I engage with? And what am I talking about? And each one of those
things should have some aspect of what you're trying to learn. At least I'd say twice a week,
at least twice, two or three times a week. It should be what you share at the dinner table.
It should be what you talk about at lunch until you feel like you've learned enough at that time. And then you can come back to it.
There we go. So perfect segue into you now. This whole episode has been about you,
but upcoming you. So you briefly hit on the book that's coming out. I want to unpack this book,
man. So let's talk about title, the concepts, the insights, but more importantly, starting with
what was your reason for wanting to write the book?
Because what I know about, he hates when I call him Dr. Ritter, but what I know about
Ben is you're a giver, right?
And so I know that you're not going to take the time to write a book unless you truly
feel like, wow, this is something that's going to be impactful and enlightening.
So why this book?
And we'll start there. All of our stories have a bit of ourselves in them, right? I actually mean,
there are stories. So I guess they have a lot of ourselves in them. I mentioned before that I am
in the field that I am in because I'm trying to prevent what happened to me to others. And so to
create organizations, better places for people to thrive in and helping people realize that they are
accountable and empowered for their career. And I have podcasts, I do workshops, I coach one-on-one, but I don't have something that
people can read other than articles or LinkedIn posts.
And LinkedIn posts, I mean, throw something on social media, who knows if it's going to
be there tomorrow, but also it's just like, it's kind of gone.
Like no matter how good your thought is, eventually it's going to disappear into the ether.
And so I wanted to create something that could last forever. And books are evergreen. They can be there unless you decide to take them offline,
but generally they can be there forever. And so it's a good medium to provide content and
information. But also I was coming out with these Fearless Friday little episodes, two to three
minutes, little tips. And for me, those are the most fun because that's how I learn. I learn
through, ooh, that
sentence really resonated with what I'm doing in my life right now. How do I go try it? How do I go
do this thing that this statement represents? Because then you learn, you do something, you
learn from it, and then you kind of reiterate and then reiterate and reiterate. It's just a loop of
learning. And if you don't do anything, you don't learn. And so these Fearless Fridays were really
just about doing. They're about taking action. And I got a lot of really positive feedback around it, which resonated
with me because that's again, that's how I learned. And it just kind of hit me one day. And I'm like,
I have like two years worth of these episodes out there that encompass pretty much what I believe in
in terms of living fearlessly in your life and your professional in your in your job. Why don't
I turn them into a book? And it kind of like it kind of all the puzzle pieces
fit into place. And so then I went out there because these feel is Friday episodes are
directly from my experiences in my life, my clients, what I feel are people people are
struggling with. I distilled them down. I transcribed all the episodes. Now we have AI.
I could have would have been a lot easier because I did not use AI transcribed them with my editor
went through them selected ones I felt were most important. And so we ended up with 65 tips after some editing and kind of me looking, thinking
about what someone truly needs that focus on your, from your mindset, but all, everything that you
can do in your life to help you start becoming more fearless. And fear, being fearless or being
confident is a skill. It's something that you need to practice, but you need to know what to practice.
So the book helps people start acting in their life to hopefully live more for themselves
and live fearlessly. That's amazing. How long did it take you to go from concept to finished product?
I think it's been two years. I think it's almost two years. And it's like that time just flies
because we were about a year in and I was like, I want to get up. I want to get this out soon.
This is taking way too long, taking way too long. And then it still took almost another year. It's incredible.
What do you think are your top or not even your top three? Because I know the entire book is
insightful. If you, if you had to point to three insights that you want the viewers and listeners
of make them plug to know today, what would the three insights from your book be that you want
to get across? Okay. Can I give you like an appendix?
Can I give you like the preword?
Because I want to say three and then kind of give three.
Let's go.
Okay.
Okay.
So the first three are to feel your feelings, think about your thoughts and not to believe
your beliefs.
Don't believe your beliefs.
I actually love this so much that I made it into a shirt.
And this concept of you have to feel what you feel.
You can't push it away.
You have to truly understand what's happening within your body.
You have to then what you feel. You can't push it away. You have to truly understand what's happening within your body.
You have to then also understand your thoughts.
You need to like really deconstruct them.
Where is this coming from?
What do I actually think right now?
Because from your feelings come your thoughts,
which then develop your beliefs.
And then the, once you understand all that,
you look at your beliefs and go,
I could believe something else, can't I?
Because the same feelings, same thoughts
can lead to a
very different belief. The problem is you're stuck in the belief that you currently have.
If you take away anything from this book, hopefully it's that concept that we get to
choose our beliefs and that fear is just an information. Everything is just information.
We need to figure out what best serves us. And then the actual tips in the book or the strategies
that I want to call out for a second is I already called out one, which is take pride in your work
because that will change the game in terms of how you show up.
The other piece is the true meaning of work, that work is never done. If your work is done,
you will be fired. You will not be needed within your organization. So let's stop prioritizing
our work and acting like it can actually be completed each and every single day and start
prioritizing some of the things we truly, that also matter in our life, like our relationships,
our pets, our own health and wellness, things that maybe we want to learn just because we want to learn them, not for any
other reason. I love reading fantasy books. And then in terms of the work itself, I already
mentioned it too, but I can't stress it enough. You have to act as if you've already been promoted.
Don't wait for permission. If you have certain goals in your career, go talk to people that are
in those positions, go figure out what competencies are important in your organization and start preparing it a year before you actually want to
be promoted. I've seen too many people get discouraged and disengaged in a company because
the company can't act as fast as they want. We're too impatient in our careers. We're way too
impatient. And we need to give ourselves the opportunity to be patient by planning a little
bit further ahead. I love that, what you just said, because I tell people the
same thing because I look at it from my viewpoint. If I'm the CEO or the senior leader of an
organization, I want people to show me that they deserve to be promoted. Because a lot of times,
and I know you know this, Ben, a lot of times these promotions aren't something the company
thought of, right? I didn't know I needed to promote them, but once Ben started showing these actions, it was like, you know what? Ben can accept more
responsibility or Ben can oversee a department or Ben should be, you know, someone that I want
to have conversations with or drive strategic initiatives within the business. If you're
waiting, I promise you, your employer didn't know that that position needed to exist for you.
100%. You can craft your job. You can make your job. And often companies don't know
what they need until you show them. So Ben, I want to wrap this up with
where can people find you and follow you? We'll make sure that they're posted in the show notes
and then anything outside of the book that's exciting that's coming up for you.
Yeah. So please go to liveforyourselfconsulting.com. You can find everything there. Also connect with me on LinkedIn. It's where I'm most active,
Dr. Benjamin Ritter. And honestly, the things I'm most excited about is really singular focused
right now on the book, but hopefully just spreading the message. So you might see me
in places that you haven't seen me in before. Just trying to get out there.
I love it. So for everybody, make sure you're following Dr. Ben. I will make sure that we have
all of these links everywhere in the show notes. I'll also do some social posts sure you're following Dr. Ben. I will make sure that we have all of these links everywhere in the show notes.
I'll also do some social posts for you too, Dr. Ben, and just make sure that I'm doing
my part to support you.
And I'm truly honored to have you on.
You know, you're one of the thought leaders that I personally look up to.
So this was a pleasure to share some time with you, brother.
I appreciate that.
Fills my heart up.
A little note to everyone.
If you recognize
someone in your life, you think positively of them, this is an opportunity to go tell them
because that comment from you just now, I mean, I'm going to go through the week with that and
I'm going to just like write it down somewhere because it helps inspire me to keep doing the
work that I'm doing. And if you appreciate someone's work or appreciate someone in your
life, do the same for them. Absolutely. Thank you, Dr. Ben. And for all the listeners and viewers, remember, your because is your superpower.
Go unleash it.
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