Mick Unplugged - How to Take it Personal and Win in Business with David Grutman

Episode Date: May 28, 2026

My wife and family are special, and I want the world to see how special they are.Entrepreneur David Grutman, co-owner of Groot Hospitality, shares how to build a lasting legacy and why nurturing relationships is key to success. He explains why focusing on intellectual property and an exit strategy, even if you never plan to sell, are critical for any business leader.WHAT YOU'LL LEARN- The critical importance of building an ecosystem around your business- How David Grutman uses AI in his hospitality ventures- Why your intellectual property and name are everything- The one thing David is most proud of to date- Why building an exit strategy for your business is crucialQUOTES THAT HIT"If I see a guest that I know that we take care of all the time doing their birthday party at another venue and not ours. I'm upset." - David Grutman"Don't being a gatekeeper. I hate these gatekeeper people." - David Grutman"You should always build a company that that's why IP is very important that you're not going to have a mess if you do exit trying to tie up all these people that are part of your IP." - David GrutmanCHAPTERS00:00 Welcome David Grutman01:32 David's Entrepreneurial Because and Next Steps02:36 Groot Hospitality's Las Vegas Expansion04:41 Taking Things Personally in Business06:37 Building Your Business Ecosystem09:53 David Grutman's Unique Value Proposition15:47 The Importance of Being in the Right Rooms19:53 Your Name and IP are Everything22:22 The Exit Strategy Mindset25:51 Mick's Rapid Fire Five with DavidQUESTIONS THIS EPISODE ANSWERSQ: What does David Grutman mean by "Take It Personal"?A: David Grutman applies "Take It Personal" to his business, meaning he fully immerses himself in the customer experience, observing competitor venues, and ensuring his team provides the best service to keep guests loyal.Q: How can entrepreneurs build a strong ecosystem around their business?A: Entrepreneurs build a strong ecosystem by focusing on relationships and curating experiences, both within their own venues and by recommending other valuable experiences, adding value for their guests beyond their direct offerings.Q: Why is having an exit strategy important, even if you don't plan to sell?A: Having an exit strategy is important because it forces you to run your business like a public company, ensuring it is structured for sustainability, making it easier to pass on to the next generation or sell if the opportunity arises. Connect & Discover David:Instagram: @davidgrutmanGroot Hospitality: groothospitality.comLinkedIn: David GrutmanTikTok: @davidgrutmanX: @DavidGrutmanBook: Take It Personal: How to Succeed by Building Relationships and Playing the Long Game 🔥 Ready to Lead Different & Win Bigger? 🔥 How to Be a Good Leader When You’ve Never Had One by Mick Hunt isn’t just a book - it’s your blueprint to set up, stand out, and lead with confidence (even if no one ever showed you how).Straight talk. Real Strategy. No fluff. Just the tools you need to elevate your leadership and life.👉 Get your copy now and start leading on your terms → Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Books A MillionFOLLOW MICK ON:Spotify: MickUnpluggedInstagram: @mickunplugged Facebook: @mickunpluggedYouTube:  @MickUnpluggedPodcast LinkedIn: @mickhunt Website:  MickHuntOfficial.comWebsite: howtobeagoodleader.comWebsite: Leadloudseries.comApple: MickUnpluggedSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You should always build a company that a public company could always buy. It's not mom and pop time anymore. The business that's not run properly or set up properly for an exit is probably not running well anyway. That's how you gain real wealth. Try to find deals where you have equity and not just a feat. I've had many moments in my life where I could have gone left or right and I decided to just say, let's just keep going forward. We try to create ecosystems where they all feed each other. By having that in one property, it lets us hyper-focused. on the guests. They don't see me as just a restaurateur or just a nightclub owner. They see me as

an entrepreneurial that's going to help them with their lives. I'm very protective over people and I send them my deal flow. You're adding value to people's lives. That's a coupon that's going to come back. The one thing they don't really talk about with you in college, how important it is and what it means to own an IP. I also won't do a deal with somebody if I don't own the IP as part of it. You're listening to Mick Unplugged. hosted by the one and only Mick Hunt. This is where purpose meets power and stories spark transformation. Mick takes you beyond the motivation and into meaning,

helping you discover your because and becoming unstoppable. I'm Rudy Rush, and trust me, you're in the right place. Let's get unplugged. Ladies and gentlemen, today's guest is an expert of experts. He has a new book out, take it personal, that not only is a blueprint, for mentality. It's a blueprint for strategy. It's a blueprint of life when you read it from beginning to end. He's going to talk to us about this book, the reason behind the book. He's the founder of group hospitality. He is a trailblazer. He's visionary. He's an influential

entrepreneur. Ladies and gentlemen, I welcome Mr. David Greta. David, how you doing today, brother? I'm doing great. Thanks for having me, by the way. Thank you, Mick. Thank you, brother. Before we get into the book, because I'm going to tell you the reason I initially connected with the book. But before we get there, I love opening the show asking my guest about what I call there because. That thing that's deeper than your why. Like if I were to ask you about your why, you might say your kids.

And then when I say, but why are they your why? That sentence usually starts off with, well, because. dot, dot, dot, dot. And I care about that. So if I were to say David, man, like all of the amazing things that you're doing, all the things that you've done for people, what's your because? Why do you keep doing the things that you do? You know, as soon as I accomplish something, I want to try to take something else on. Again, I have very high ADD. So for me, it's, you know, what's next? What can I do differently than my predecessors or, you know, my competitors? And I think for this one, in particular the book, I'm really on this mission to try to build legacy as I'm getting older now.

And I think if I did do the book now and I did it after I retired, it wouldn't just be, it wouldn't be relevant to people as much as I'm in it today. Yeah, I love it, man. And you're so right. And I see your because and everything that you do, right? you know, with group hospitality expanding from Miami into Vegas and just kind of taking over and like the things that you do there with your business, man. Like talk to us about, you know, a little bit about what your hospitality company does and like that big expansion that you had to take over the world.

So we were able to do poppy steak, commodo, live and live beach, all under Wonder Rufu, which is the Fountain Blue Las Vegas. And we try to build an eco-execkel. system for ourselves here in Miami. So to be able to do it in one property in Las Vegas where, you know, we capture you for dinner, you'll have a drink afterwards at another one of our restaurants and then go right up to live. Or you can start your day at live beach, take a nap, then go eat a poppy steak, go to Komodo and then go to live afterwards. We try to create ecosystems where they all feed each other. And I think by having that in one property, it

lets us hyper focus on the guest. Yeah, it does. And I will tell you, there's no property like yours. You know, I was just talking to some of my friends, and they were talking about it and all the things that you do, you know, talking to a Chris Voss or Robert Irvine, a Damon John, and like your name comes up. And it's the experience, right?

And I think that's what you know more than anyone, because I'll just say it. this will be a Mick Hunt unplugged truth right here. I think there are a lot of property owners. There are a lot of folks that don't look at the actual experience of the individual. They say they do, but they don't really put themselves in those shoes. And I think you nailed that because every aspect of all the things that you do, it's like you're looking at it from the true experience standpoint.

And I think that's what makes you one of the most successful people in the world, bro. I think that comes with by being in our venue, you know, by having dinner with friends in my venues, right? So I catch a lot of things. I'm just like, music's too loud to even enjoy this experience. Or I'm just hearing everyone's conversation. It's just not enough. It just depends. And like how the food comes, what's the sequence of service?

How's the team interacting with each other? Is the lighting going down at the right moment? Is it going up to the whole thing, right? So you want to know all these touching points. And I think about the details more than anything. So it's all about the details. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

Now we're going to go to the book. And I'm going to give you another unplug truth, and I'm going to ask you for once. So when I first saw the book, I was grabbed by the title. Take it personal. And here's why. I'm a UNC Tar Hill, right?

Which means I love Michael Jordan, which means we all watched the last dance and we saw all the memes of Jordan saying, and I took that personally. Well, when you are wired the way, that I'm going to say I'm wired, that Michael Jordan's wired, the way that David's wired. You do take things personal. And that's kind of like the chip on our shoulder to provide the best experience, to be the best business leaders that we can be, to be the best people in life

that we can be. So now I want to get it from you. Talk to me about when you decided that this was going to be the title of the book and why you chose that title. Well, it's really something that I focus in with my team so much. Like if I see a guest that I know that we take care of all the time doing their birthday party at another venue and not ours. And I'm like, or somebody, I'm like, even like a team member, by the way, let alone, I've seen team members do a birthday somewhere else. And I'm like, are you, are you crazy right now? Like, are you insane? Right. Uh, actually got to get the cat. And in like, listen, I think it's to my core.

I look at the window at the restaurant next to poppy steak and see if my friends are in there. It's not my rest. You know, I talk about that in the book. And I'm on it. I'll go like this in the window to the person. I'm like, if you could be next door, then you could be in my spot. And I think as

your relationships build with people, they know how much you take it personal. I want them to have that second thought before they go somewhere else. At least be troubled with it. At least not enjoy their meal completely because they know I'm upset. Right, right.

You know, one of my favorite chapters in the book is chapter two, and it's building an ecosystem. And, you know, I had this conversation with all of my people about, you know, your circle and that ecosystem that you call it. And we had a team meeting on Monday where we dissected chapter two. And I could talk about it all day long, but we have the author. here. So I'd love for you to talk to us about the importance of building ecosystem and the foundational structure of building that ecosystem. So, I mean, it's a great thing. I think it stems from relationships. I think it stems for how do you curate that experience for people when they

come to your city, when they come to your home and they come to whatever? Yeah. Let me ask you a question. What did your team get out of it? What they got was everyone that we interact with, we control an experience because they're going to have one either way it goes. So are you going to be the one that controls it? Or are you going to let someone else decide the experience that they're going to have?

And so for us, in our ecosystem and understanding, it was, what do we all do that's uniquely the thing that no one else can do? What is it that we do individually? Right? that no one else can do. And then when we put that together as a team, what makes us the most uneffable team

that exists in what we do? And that's what everyone got at. So what everyone started understanding was to create this ecosystem, it starts with you when understanding that unique talent or gift that you have that no one else can do. Because at the end of the day,

everyone's going to have an experience. It's just more of, Did you control that experience or did you leave it up for someone else to have without your influence? I mean, for us, we also think it kind of takes the thought process out of the guest to have to be concerned about it as well, right? Because, you know, if we're programming your night for you and we say this is what we think the best night of your life to be, and you have trust with us, that that earns trust too. And it comes over time, right? So, and that's why it's good. And also, even if it's not one of my places,

but it's something that I think they should go see or do or something like that, you also want to plant this. Because if it's just, if it's just all your, like, I might send them to an experience at Superblue, which is this museum that has installed, not mine, but you want them to go experience other things. You don't want it to just be a sales job of just your spots, too. You want to say, hey, listen,

I really want to curate the best day and night for you ever. I love that, brother. I love that. And I know you don't say this. And I'm going to step away from the book for a moment just because you're someone who I've followed forever. And it kind of does coincide with the book a little bit. But I like hot takes, right? I'm just going to say this.

There's not a lot of people that can do what you do. When I think of DG and I talk about, again, Damon John talks about you, Chris Voss talks about you, Robert Irvine talks about you. We go to the book. You've got Tom Brady, Serena Williams. Oh, by the way, Kim Kardashian does the Ford and intro. What makes DG uniquely different from people in your category? I think because they don't see me as just a restaurateur or just a nightclub owner. They see me as an entrepreneur that's going to help them with their lives.

I think they all know over time, I'm very protective over people. That's one. And I send them my deal flow. I go, hey, I look at this new brand. I think I negotiated a great deal. Why don't you come in with me on the same thing that I've negotiated? I'm pretty good at it now, and I think it comes over time. I also think I try to add value for those.

Anybody that you talk to, they'll say I just try to add value. And, you know, I talk about a lot in the book. It's just being a great connector and don't being a gatekeeper. I hate these gatekeeper people. Same, man. Right? Oh, someone's like, oh, do you know that person? And if they think there's any kind of monetary situation that you're going to benefit from their connection, they want a piece of it.

That's just such the wrong way to look at things. And it pays off 10 times more than whatever that little thing is that you're trying to make that 10% of. And I talk about, oh, when they're like, make sure you CC me on all conversations with them. I'm like, who wants, I don't even, I barely have time to read all my emails. I'm going to tell you to go see, see me on a conversation with somebody because there might be some monetary exchange between two people creating who wants to live like that? Dude, I love that.

And when I read the book, another gatekeeper type that came to mind is the friend that doesn't want you to become closer to that celebrity or influencer than they are, right? It's like, I'm tight with DG, but I don't want you to be tight, though. And it's like, bro, like, chill out, man. Like, what is this about? But that person, I think, is worse than the financial game gatekeeper. By the way, it's not wrong.

Like, I, listen, I'm friends with some very, let's say, wealthy people that have a lot of amazing toys. Yeah. Yots, this, that, the other. I've definitely introduced some big celebrities to some great billionaires that say. and they've gone and gone on their boat separately than me. And I'm like, people are like, wow, so-and-so's on that yacht and you're not there and go, great. Right. I mean, like, okay, like, I'm not the celebrity handler.

Like, I'm so happy they're friends if they meet great. And by the way, the person that they're on the boat with is an amazing person. They should be hanging out with them. It's great. Right. Right. Yeah. To me, that is the worst person.

that exists. It's weird how people's perspective is so focused on that. Right. And like, oh, you're not part of that. I'm like, I'm part of it just fine. Like, it's okay. Yeah. I might miss a boat trip.

I might miss a vacation. It's okay. Yeah. And oh, by the way. I like dinner too. Like, okay, there might be a dinner and I'm not, okay. Yeah. So some people want to have their own relationships.

And that's even more powerful. No, absolutely. And I would say, I respect you in this way because you and I are a lot of like. Like, I don't need to take a picture with someone to show that I'm cool or tight. Like, I actually never do. Like, you've never seen me take a selfie with like my true inner circle of like high net worth friends. Oh, no, no. I love, I love, I love, I love content.

Don't fool yourself, my man. No, you love content, but you're doing it in a different way, though. Like, you're not proving. You don't do content to say. oh look I'm hanging out with Warren Buffett. I know everyone knows everything. Everyone talks. Like here's the things.

I let them do the engagement. There's many times with some of the biggest. And there's no feel. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Like everyone's so thirsty to get that one picture, that one thing.

Like, there's going to be another time, my man. Like, it's okay. No. I would rather. Are you not asking? And like, I have friends of mine that, you know, they're, Dave, you went to dinner with so-and-so. nobody knows

okay, but you know what, there'll be 50 other times that I'm going to have dinner with this person and, you know, okay, maybe one time, who cares? Yeah, yeah. And by the way, you sit so much more powerful with that celebrity or that person by not doing that than doing it.

Like it puts you, it elevates you on a different level than just, you know, hey, do you mind? No. No. But then when it comes time that you know, need some help. Hey, Kim, can you do a forward for me after 20 something years? Do you mind? No, no problem. That's it, man. And I would say, I would rather pick David's mind, pick his brain, ask him a really good question, than to take a selfie to prove that I was hanging out with.

Right? Like, for me, that's like, now, do I have pictures with celebrities and influencers? Yes, but usually someone else took them, right? But you don't see me grabbing my phone say, hanging out with David today, like, I don't need that. I'd rather take those two seconds and ask you a question. And listen, everyone's different. Some people, why do you content with you? They're like, Dave, please, let's do something fun. Let's do us.

Let's do something great. Let's show. Great. Happy to. By the way, awesome. And some people just don't. And it's okay. Yep.

Yep. So I want to go to a different part now. I call it the room. And I'm actually in a conversation right now. on this podcast, looking him in the eye, of the guy that creates the best experiences ever, that creates the rooms. Because to me, and in the book, David,

you talk about relationships all through it and how important they are, how to build them, how to maintain them, how to invest in them. And the best relationships I've ever had, the best advice I've ever gotten was because I was in a room, right? I was in a moment, I was in a place.

We were having a conversation, that experience the ambiance was right. And I can remember those moments like they were yesterday. I'd love for you to talk about, was there a room for you? Was there a moment for you when you realize relationships matter the most? Or was there a specific conversation that you can remember because you were in the right room at the right time?

I think I've had the right mentors around me as well that talk about that so much. And I think because I was an important, only I really take relationships so, I'm so delicate with it. And I knew by seeing people that ruined relationships or played the short game and didn't go and just like wanted to capitalize on the press for that one second, or they put people in bad situations or, and I'm just looking at people like, why would you do that? Why do you like, it's to me, I've had many moments in my life where I could have gone left or right and I decided to just say, let's just keep

going forward. And it's it's something that a lot of people only see tomorrow. They only see today and they don't see tomorrow. And it bothers me. Because like just to give you a thing, I'm talking to a DJ about reupping his contract at Live. And you know, in Vegas, they sign you to two, three year deals. And another casino is offering more money than I am because it's just a bigger casino, it's a bigger this, it's a bigger this. And the manager is saying to me, hey, I know everything you've done with this DJ, with this relationship, you've done stuff that we can never imagine.

But this is generational wealth for this DJ. If he takes this deal, Dave. And I'm like, are you fucking insane to say to me, generational wealth? Like that's what you think of your client, that this much money, which is, it's a good amount of money, but it's not. generational wealth.

Like what you think generational, what you think generational wealth is and what I think generational wealth is might be two different things. Right. I think this. I think if your guy is with me, he's going to have real generational wealth and not what the short little game is.

And stop talking about your guy like that. Like just say this might be a bigger amount and it means this amount is enough money for us to think about doing something else. But don't bring up the terminology generational wealth. because I think it downplays your guy, and it makes me think you don't really know your guy well enough,

or don't have enough, or don't think he has the ability that I think he has. Yeah. And that bothered me a lot. And when I talked to the DJ, I said, your team just told me about generational wealth. And I'm like, I'm sorry, my man. I think, I think if I hear that term again discussing you, I'm going to lose my mind.

And he was like, same thing, David. They keep saying this to me. And I'm like, I'm just getting stuck. Like, we're just getting started. Like, there's not a, listen, I understand that entertainment and stuff like that might be considered like a quarterback or a sports athlete where you only have a certain amount of time. I get it.

Because at the end of the day, youth really, you know, trolls what's hot next and blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I love it, dude. It's just like, to me, it's like, stop using, I hate when people position themselves like that. Yeah. And that's, yeah. And that kind of goes. into something in one of the chapters, and I have it highlighted here, chapter eight,

which is something that, again, my team and I also discuss, which is your name is everything. And you break down the importance of intellectual property and how to do that. And I actually just yesterday had a conversation with my IP attorney on just some things because most people don't understand, one, yes, your name,

but there's a lot of things that you do. There's a lot of frameworks that you have that you should protect. and that you need to think about building it. So I'd love for you to talk about the importance of building, creating IP and breaking down. What we're talking about is intellectual property. And just to clear,

so your audience knows, when we say name, we don't mean just David Gretman. We're talking about, let's say, live, gecko, come out, all names, right? Right. Or it could be David Guttman, too, right? That being said,

it's the one thing they don't really talk about with you in college, how important it is, and what it means to own an IP. And as I built a restaurant for the first time, as I thought a single unit, which I've been able to grow to three and hopefully more venues, that the IP is what the most important thing is.

I also won't do a deal with somebody if I don't own the IP as part of it. Because, you know, I talk about their Louis Vuitton, you know, they wanted me to do an LV lovers bar. But I don't have any equity in LV. Would they give me equity in an LV lovers bar? No. And they're like, you're crazy.

It's going to make your life so cool. I'm like, I'm as cool as I'm going to be. Let me own my brands. And if I'm going to be cool, if I'm going to be the one that's going to make it cool, that I need a share in that IP. And you have to be very careful who you let into your IP. Certain times it should just be your IP. And certain times if you have a partner that's going to bring as much value as you,

as you are helping build it from the ground up, then should they share in the IP or not? And I think some people don't care about IP, developers. I think that are building high rises. If they can put a brand on their building and they can charge a little bit more per square foot, they don't care what that IP is. But I think they're helping you build your IP,

which is how you look at deals and saying, how do I keep building that IP through other people's marketing assets? Amen. Which leads to the natural follow-up of that. which is the exit, right? And having an exit strategy. I learned from Damon John personally, Mick, don't build a business

without thinking about it and building it as if you were going to sell it or exit from. Even if you never plan to, that needs to be the mindset of building it because it's going to help you actually make better decisions. And then I go read, take it personal. And what is David Grutman saying?

Pretty much the same damn thing, right? Like you've got to prepare, even if you're not going to exit, you've got to build as if you are because it does help you make better decisions. And then you actually give some really cool advice just on exit strategies in general. So talk to us a little bit about that, brother. You should always build a company that that's why IP is very important, that you're not going to have a mess if you do exit. Trying to tie up all these people that are part of your IP, you want to try to get it clean. I think as you do these deals with partners that they know that, you know, they have a drag along. with you or tag along where they could come along for the ride as well.

But I also think, listen, you should build a business that that feels like a public company could always buy or when you go to sell it if you're not buttoned up, which that's how business should be, button up enough to be in a public company. It's not mom and pop time anymore. Like these are your businesses, right? You have to build it that if somebody's going to exit. Now, let's say you said you're never going to exit that business. And maybe you don't, but maybe you pass it on to the.

the next generation and shouldn't that next generation have the ability to be able to just step in there and run your business. I don't think a business that's not run properly or set up properly for an exit or that is probably not running well anyway. I think it's all like, listen, you need to, you need everything firing. And I think that's what's desirable to people that even want to look at your business. Is it set up, is it a mom and pop shop? And if it's a mom and pop shop, is at least set up accordingly. But it's not about for me the money on that one particular venue. It's about the eight times, 10 times, 12-time multiple on those businesses as you build.

Absolutely. That's how you gain real wealth. That's why I always tell people, try to find deals where you have equity and not just defeat. That's it. That's it. Dave, man, I know how busy you are and I'm honored that you would spend a few minutes. Katie, this is an important thing. Thank you for having me. No, man. You mean the world to me.

So I got to get you out of here with my unplugged five, so my rapid fire five. But before I do that, I'm going to say this again. This is the book. Zoom in. Take it personally. Yes. Go get this book. I don't care who you are. I don't care what you do.

I was selling Dave Offline. Like my oldest son, who's a football coach, loves this book and has given this book to his players because there's a lot. of life in here, the relationship building. It doesn't matter what you do, right? Like the coaching, even though you can't exit a coaching business, right? But you can build a team as if those players are moving on, right? Because that's the truth of what happens.

So are you building a culture? Are you putting in principles and values in what you do? So this book is that important, bro. And adding value to those athletes, right, giving, like, that's it, right? You're adding value to people's lives. That's a coupon that's going to come back. Exactly. Exactly.

So this unplug five, ready? First question. How does a normal guy like me throw a party at live? Who do I need to know? Who do I need to know to make that happen? Well, it just depends on how big of a party we're throwing here. Are we talking about a couple tables? We're talking about renting the whole venue.

Let's just say a few tables. And then, listen, we have great VIP hosts at the front. We have a great program for that. We're happy to help you. And you can also even go online and pick your particular tables now and buy your particular tables. That's what I wanted to hear. Go online. That link will actually be in the description.

Oh, I like that. Question number two. How are you using AI in your businesses today? So now we have AI talking. When you go to ticketing or you DM or Instagram, it's AI talking to you. And we're not, you know, so it's telling you, you know, tables, prices, minimums, and it's also saying, can I please book that dinner reservation for you

before live at Poppy State, Costa Donna Komodo, getco, any of that stuff. And it's really helping people curate their own night via AI. Yeah, yeah. Within my ecosystem. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Very cool. Question three.

The coolest party that you've thrown, what would that cool party be? I know you got some stories. So it's going to be hard to pick out one, but give me one that's coming to mine now. I think when the Miami Heat won the championship, I think that was probably the coolest thing, and they brought the trophy to live.

There it is. And then the next year again. There it is. What's the one thing you're most proud of to date? You know, my kid and my loving relationship with my wife, my family is really special. And I love that the world sees how special my family. Yes, sir.

Yes, sir. Last question. when the book of David Gretman's being read, what's one or two words that you want to define you in that book? Well, first it needs to say that I'm a New York Times bestseller. Let's just start there. No. But I added value.

Added value. I added value. Yes, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, this is David Gretman. I would say it's as simple as this. Just go Google them, right? Follow them, Google them. Get the book.

Buy the book. Get the book. And here's how cool this book is for me. David, I'm going to do this. I'm going to buy 20 copies of the book. Wow. And the first 20 people on Instagram that message me, take it personal.

I'm going to give you a copy of the book. Because it's going to change your life. And then let me know how you like the book. That's what I care about. There it is. And that was going to be the follow up. So if you're one of the 20 that get the book, here's what I need you to do.

Take a picture of yourself with the book. and highlight something that was really cool, a lesson that you learned or something you're going to implement or change, and then tag me and David in the social post. So we know you like, there it is. David, I appreciate you, brother. Thank you so much. I appreciate you.

Take care, guys. You got it. Bye. That's another powerful conversation on Mick Unplugged. If this episode moved you, and I'm sure it did, follow the show wherever you listen, share it with someone who needs that spark, and leave a review.

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