Mick Unplugged - LaVaughn Kelley | From Naval Officer to Sports Mentor: LaVaughn Talks Leadership and Faith

Episode Date: December 23, 2024

Mick: "Welcome back listeners to another riveting episode of Mick Unplugged! I'm your host, Mick Hunt, and today we have an extraordinary guest who has effortlessly transitioned from the military to t...he sports industry. LaVaughn Kelley, a former Naval officer and current sports agent, joins us to share his remarkable journey. We'll delve into his roots at the U.S. Naval Academy, the crucial role of mentorship, and how military principles shape his leadership at Divine Sports Entertainment. LaVaughn reveals the evolution of his faith-based organization, which aims to extend community and family beyond the business of sports. We’ll explore how football provided stability during his collegiate years, the vital importance of financial literacy and managing distractions for athletes, and the nuances of brand-building in the NIL era. Get ready to be inspired by LaVaughn’s wisdom on leadership, resilience, and the essence of personal growth. Stay tuned as we cover all this and more in an episode that's packed with valuable insights and compelling stories. Let’s dive in!"  Takeaways: ·       The journey to the Naval Academy was influenced by mentorship. ·       Success leaves clues; learning from others is essential. ·       Financial literacy is crucial for modern athletes. Sound Bites: ·       "I was always that underdog trying to drive up and get that eye." ·       "We want to be an extension of family." ·       "Success leaves clues."  Connect and Discover LinkedIn:           https://www.linkedin.com/in/lavaughn-kelley/ Instagram:        https://www.instagram.com/lavaughn_kelley Website:            divinesportsent.com  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Bro, what's your because? What's that thing? What's your purpose? What would that answer be? My purpose is to walk this earth to be able to have my daughter as a parent, right? To have my daughter look at me and say, hey, my dad was somebody. U.S. Naval Academy, played sports there. What was your decision in saying, I want to join the Navy?
Starting point is 00:00:20 What was that like? Oh, that was a hard decision. Leave it to my own guidance. I would have never went to the academy. One of my biggest mentors, Wayne Blair, was probably my biggest supporter to drive me in that era. The mission of Divine Sport now is, is it the same mission as when you first started or when you joined the company? It's evolved a little bit. I would say initially we still are faith-based, right? That doesn't change. I think our driving point was that we knew as agents,
Starting point is 00:00:48 right? That we're faith-based. So we won't like mimes and we try to expand it as much as we can. Welcome to Mick Unplugged, where we ignite potential and fuel purpose. Get ready for raw insights, bold moves, and game-changing conversations. Buckle up, here's Mick. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Mick Unplugged, and today's guest is a dynamic leader who has made waves in both sports and entertainment. With a background that spans from playing football for the U.S. Naval Academy to founding Divine Sports Entertainment, he has proven himself as a visionary in creating opportunities for athletes and entertainers alike. From the football field to the boardroom, his journey is one of determination, discipline,
Starting point is 00:01:38 and innovation. Please join me in welcoming the passionate, the driven, the visionary and the comedian, Mr. LaVon Kelly. LaVon, how you doing today, brother? I'm doing well, how you doing? How you doing today? I'm doing great, man. I was telling you offline, we have some mutual friends and I've heard a lot
Starting point is 00:01:55 about LaVon and so I'm truly excited and honored to spend some time with you. But before we even get started, man, I just personally wanted to thank you for your service and all the things that you've done for this country, because without people like you doing the things that you do that go unseen, we couldn't have the freedoms that we have today. So I wanted to personally thank you, brother.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I truly appreciate it and happy to do it. Always, always. So, LaVon, man, like, we're gonna do the PG-13 version today. Okay. We'll give some folks after hours, LaVon, later, man. But on Make Unplugged, we like to go into your because, that thing that's deeper than your why,
Starting point is 00:02:35 that thing that really makes you do what you do and become the person that you become. So if I were to ask LaVon Kelly, bro, what's your because? What's that thing? What's your purpose? What's that thing? What's your purpose? What would that answer be? My purpose is to walk this earth
Starting point is 00:02:49 to be able to have my daughter as a parent, right? To have my daughter look at me and say, hey, my dad was somebody, right? That overall theme of everything I try to do, I try to make sure that when she looks at me or hears my name or my name is spoken, she has a sense of pride in her as well as I have when I see her.
Starting point is 00:03:08 That's it, man. That's truly amazing. Because for me, very similar, but the opposite way. At 10 years old, I made a promise to my mom to change lives and to specifically change her life. And so that promise is what drives me to this day. And then as you get older, that promise then goes to your kids, right?
Starting point is 00:03:28 And to the people that you love. And so I see LaVon as a man who just lives a promise and a purpose every day, bro. Got to, got to. Yes, sir. So let's talk to us a little bit about your story, your background. So, you know, US Naval Academy played sports there.
Starting point is 00:03:46 What was your decision in saying, I want to join the Navy? What was that like? Oh, that was a hard decision. Leave it to my own guidance. I would have never went to the academy. My mentors, one of my biggest mentors, Wayne Blair, was probably my biggest supporter
Starting point is 00:04:02 to drive me in that era. Coming from South Florida, I mean, I'm a Miami Hurricanes fan, right? So growing up, I mean, I'm Afro, I'm braided back, everything, you know? So to see me transform and getting that first haircut, cut my hair all off to go to that realm, my dad was in the Air Force for 23 years, so I caught the back end of his service in time. So never really saw like the deployments and away from home kind of trying to drive from him. But I had a little bit of what military was
Starting point is 00:04:30 about, right? Not how it interacts, right? And I never really had that exposure. So taking that ride was never on my radar. Even when they came to school, offer letters, I put them in the shoebox and threw them to the side, right. Never really paid attention to it. But as time went on, like I said, I was definitely a Hurricane fan. They didn't come around, right? I wasn't at that caliber yet. I was small, right?
Starting point is 00:04:54 I was always that underdog trying to drive up and get that eye, right? Trying to prove myself, should I say. But my mentor, he went to Tulane, so he knew the kind of rigor and morals of going to be a collegiate student, play for the CFL for a little while as well. So you know, Florida big football. So yeah, I want to go to the league too. You know, that was always something in the back of my mind to kind
Starting point is 00:05:13 of keep going. But he saw the bigger picture and I never saw it, right. And he wanted to make sure that I was in that place. And my parents, of course, they were driving. They want me to be happy wherever I went, right. So we took some school visits. UCF, FIU was getting a new program, was getting prominent. So they was offering us and kind of talking our way through. But I mean, my mother really left it to me to kind of figure that piece out. So with him and prayer, a whole lot of prayer, I was able to make that decision. Went to the prep school first. so I went to Rhode Island. Never been to Rhode Island in my life, right? It's snowing in October. I'm a Florida boy, right?
Starting point is 00:05:48 Yeah, so I'm in orange dickie shorts, some Nikes, and watching this snow come down in October, didn't know what I was doing, right? Didn't know what to do other than to stay inside, right? Stay warm. But got through that first year, and then really had to make a decision. Okay, now I was on to Naval Academy. And it's from the guys that I met there, the football team and the
Starting point is 00:06:09 nucleus we started to build. And we were winning, we did pretty well for ourselves. So we knew that we could go in as a unit and change the program. And that was our expectation. So we did it. We went on. Our first year was of course, it's still rough. We didn't win any game by freshman year. Right. So that was something new to me. I'm from St. Thomas Aquinas High School in Florida, so I'm used to winning. I'm used to looking up and then- Right, you just showed up and you won. Right, used to looking up and saying,
Starting point is 00:06:31 yeah, committee teams, you say, hey, we just playing for second. That's how I kind of really evolved to. But looking at the stands, looking for my parents, always trying to find that noble, simple face, it wasn't there. So I had to really dig deep, and football really became a heavy,
Starting point is 00:06:46 heavy factor for me to just to maintain my college career. I think if they ever took football away from me, I probably had to reevaluate some things personally just to kind of stay put. But it kept me there and it allowed me to flourish and allowed me to be great as a as a miss shipment, then commissioned as a naval officer. There was opportunities that we were trying to seek a couple of classmates of us to try to go play professional. But 9-11 actually happened on our freshman year. So the nation was at war. So at that time it was very, very difficult for anyone to allow us to go on to play professional. So got stationed out in Virginia, was there for a couple of years. There was a couple of semi-pro teams. I kind of just stayed around football. So I played a little bit and then I was on a ship.
Starting point is 00:07:26 So we went out on deployments. So now I'm across the globe, you know, touring the world, defending the country and just kind of having that security. So that football playing that, hang those cleats up at that point, right? I took on other responsibilities, you know, was the men and women
Starting point is 00:07:40 that are Navy in my division, my department, right? Those I had to lead at that point. Took them on and was able to complete 20 years of service. So I was able to come home every time I took away, you know, and bring my guys back to. So it's definitely a blessing. My mom has always been a cornerstone of my rock. My dad was giving me guidance
Starting point is 00:07:57 at some of the military aspect as well. And then the family and friends that I actually met through the military, I wouldn't change it for the world, right? And I knew as I transitioned out, I still wanted to do something. I coached when I was at short duty. When I had opportunities, I was able to coach at two different high schools, also train a couple of guys, and watch them go from high school to college to NFL.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I watched those phases of progression go out, and I was able to be a part of it to help mentor. It wasn't my ability by any means. I wasn't trying to live through them, but I just wanted to be a part of it, to help mentor, right? Wasn't my ability by any means, right? And I wasn't trying to live through them, but I just wanted to give them what I necessarily didn't receive as I was going through that process. And I think it proved to be great dividends for them and they did well.
Starting point is 00:08:34 And now some of them actually back coach in high school. So I actually attend some of those practices sometimes, just sit, fly on the wall, right? Never wanted to chew by any means. And they ask me questions like, coach, was I like that? But yeah, that was you back then too. You know, it happened that way. But I'm happy they're embracing it and they're figuring out ways to lead their guys to, right, to motivate them, to get them to do what needs to be done. And I'll also give them a platform to be successful well after football.
Starting point is 00:08:57 So I definitely appreciate and love those guys if they continue to do that. That's awesome. One of the things I know about you, LaVonna, and what I hear is you tell your story. And I never say leaders are born naturally, right? Like you can have leadership tendencies, but those are skills that you have to continue to develop, right? Like I tell people all the time, just because you're seven foot doesn't mean you can dominate in basketball, there's skills that you have to develop. But I do think that you had qualities to obviously be the best leader among leaders.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And so what was it like for you when you realized that you were on that path of being a leader? Being the person that people looked up to, people counted on, people depended on. And the second part of that question is, what did it feel like? Because as a leader myself, right? Like there are a lot of times when people don't understand the responsibility that true leaders have and that thing that we feel that sometimes you can't
Starting point is 00:09:55 articulate. Right. It's like when you're in that moment and you know, you're in that moment, like there's a thing that happens on the inside for most like true leaders. What was it like for LaVon, like, one, realizing that that's you and then two, those moments where it's like, the decisions I make are about to change lives. Like, what is that like? So I would say probably the first time I could probably say I felt a glimpse of that was once I graduated, they allowed us to go back to the prep school to coach.
Starting point is 00:10:25 So that was my first experience of something that I loved with football. And I was able to teach high school students how to play the game, right? How to play my position. I was a DB coach, a special teams coach. So watching them in a high school atmosphere like, right? Is what they come from.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And bringing those guys to jail them together and they're looking to me, right? I'm their pathway at this point, right, is what they come from and bringing those guys to jail them together. And they're looking to me, right? I'm their pathway at this point, right? I have to lead them. It's learning that playbook and being able to play it. Four years ago when I played, but when I had to teach it two different things, right? That's two different things. And if I would have actually probably learned and knew what I was teaching at that point four years ago. I would have been a totally different player. I would have definitely had better insights. So I think at that point, when I started to watch them and then when I say, hey, when they've arrived, they've seen some of these things,
Starting point is 00:11:14 they've learned the Tennessee, they're doing the drills correctly, they're being coachable, right? And they're doing those things that you ask of them. And then you have to find out a way to motivate them. Every person is not the same. And that was another factor is that I had to be adaptable and I had to be able to do it quickly
Starting point is 00:11:31 in order to keep everybody on the same load. But I couldn't focus on one person all the time because I would leave the rest of the group behind. So I had to figure that person out real quick, right? What makes them tick, right? And how do I can get them to be motivated to continue to go on and go on and go forward to do great? So that was probably my initial clips. What it felt like, I think the biggest feeling was when I was in the military, I was at my second command, so I was at the staff
Starting point is 00:11:53 group. So after the ship, I went to a staff unit and at that time, the staff construct is our Commodore at the time, he's the head of multiple ships. So I answer up to him. He was the head for the most part, but it was other captains on each ship that owned their own ship and their personnel. So I like overseeing for the most part. Well, I reported to him, but certain units reported to me. Now mind you, they're not always in the same place. So when I give certain directions or get certain reports, I have to be able to be very clear and concise when that happens. So I had to work on how I speak, I had to work on how I deliver messages, had to work on how I convey things, because how I'm hearing it in my mind
Starting point is 00:12:34 may not be how they receive it on the other end. So I had to figure that out. Once I figured that out, I think I was golden, right? Because I knew once I put something out, it was clear what I taught it to train them to be in a better place, and then watch them go on and do it and execute it far beyond what I imagined. It felt great, right? Because now I'm like, okay, I might know a little something, right? But they're executing it and whatever innovative ways they made it add to it, they've actually made it
Starting point is 00:13:00 better. So I learned from them, right? When they came back with certain things, I learned from it and I just was able to spun with stripes, take some of that in and apply it to the next phase. Right. And I just continue. It's a continuous cycle, right? Cause always learning, always some professional development to happen. So I appreciated it. And it was a great feeling at that time. I love it. I love it. So that part of your journey kind of, I don't want to say ends, it evolves into you creating and finding Divine Sports Entertainment. Tell me a little bit about your vision for why you wanted to start Divine Sports Entertainment
Starting point is 00:13:39 and then what that mission initially was. Gotcha. So with Divine Sports, so I didn't necessarily find it. There was two founders prior to me. They brought me on with them, right? One of them actually mentored at why he was at the Naval Academy, actually he's a 2014 graduate.
Starting point is 00:13:52 So from their nucleus, it didn't find a way because we both played football, right? So it was always a pathway. The biggest thing for us, especially the Savers Academy, right? Trying to find a way to leave. You still want that. Some still have those dreams and aspirations.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Even though we know we have to go and serve, and that's a commitment once we graduate to serving the armed forces, there's always that slight chance, that hope that you say, I may have an opportunity to go forth. And that was always something we wanted to be able to tap into.
Starting point is 00:14:19 It still is, right? Still is a desire of ours as we continue to work through this. But we, faith-based, right, we always understand what it took for us and we knew how many times we had to fall on our knees to make sure that next day was to come, right, and we were prepared for it. We believe everyone has a purpose because we have our own purpose. We learned through the Naval Academy, coming from boys to men, right, how that changes those sacrifices in life and then getting to the fleet, right? Or to the military or to the Navy,
Starting point is 00:14:46 whichever commission you actually received at that point. As you got developed, your purpose began to come a little bit more refined, right? And you learned some tools and you got some assets to actually get us to a place. And that allowed us to be there at that point. So we appreciate it at that point. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:15:04 So the mission of Divine Sport now, is it the same mission as when you first started or when you joined the company? It's evolved a little bit. I would say, initially, we still are faith based, right? That doesn't change. I think our driving point was that we knew as agents, right, that we're faith based. So we won't like minds and we tried to expand it as much as we can. But then we kind of figure out,
Starting point is 00:15:29 like, it's not just the athletes, right? Like, we want the family, we want the nucleus drive, we want to be an extension of family as it comes about. The transactional pieces that happen through the business of the sports industry, we do our best to shy away from, right? We want to be able to build those relationships
Starting point is 00:15:43 to be a part of that. We even started a Bible study that we have as an agency every Wednesday, right? So anyone that's affiliated in the sports industry that we have either a reach to or we can touch, we invite them, right? We go through books, we go through certain passages in the Bible every Wednesday for the men. And we know that we have to kind of walk that walk, right? You just can't be out here just preaching it and you're not living it. What you live, you're created, right? So we do our best to not only be that example that others can emulate, right? But we try to pass on those tools because you never know when somebody's paying attention, right? And when they do what they take from you, right? And I'm not trying to say that I'm perfect by any means, right? I know
Starting point is 00:16:23 I'm no saint and I know where my shortcomings lie. But at the same time, I do know that I'm not trying to say that I'm perfect by any means. I know I'm no saint and I know where my shortcomings lie, but at the same time I do know that I'm on a path that I try to instill in myself and in those around me a better way forward. And if I can touch one to just kind of be motivated to do that, then I think I've done my job. That's amazing, man. That's why, again, I love the human that you are above anything else. So inside Divine Sport, what are some of the principles from your military background that you were able to apply into what you do at Divine? I'm gonna say structure. A structured piece as far as how we implement certain programs, how we have certain milestones and checkpoints to make sure everything is running accordingly and efficiently, right? We
Starting point is 00:17:06 know everything is not cookie-cutter, we try to apply it and we have to be adaptable, so we every day there may be a change, right? We always say it's Intel, right? The enemy has a factor in this decision process, right? So what we do depends on the enemy, right? So we just can't go out and just run A through Z, it's not how that works, right? So the enemy always has a play in that decision. And I think the next piece, when it comes to development, the mentor piece, I'm not the yes man, right?
Starting point is 00:17:31 I haven't been that person. I don't know if I ever was that person. So I can't be with a client and be in my own person if I don't really give them the pros and cons, right? Pluses and minuses, the risks that maybe they have to be able to live with, right, with any decision that they make. As a prior, as an intel officer, my career, so I was always looking at the adversary courses of actions
Starting point is 00:17:57 as to how do we defeat this? Whatever the issue was, I try to find a way to defeat it, but I got to understand what the issue is, right? And I got to bring that. And a lot of people consider that to be the devil's advocate piece and think I'm the negative person, but I'm just like, I want you to be able to think every manner in which this may play out and then whichever one is best for you, that's fine. And then let's look at the risk that we got to take on it.
Starting point is 00:18:19 We probably can't buy down the risk all the way to zero, right? So any form of fashion, whatever that may be, if we can just buy it down to somewhat because we've thought about some of these processes that actually have to take place, then it may become an acceptable risk. And that's part of the military too. Collateral damage, should I say, things of that nature. But if it gets to a point where you're acceptable
Starting point is 00:18:37 and you know what it is and you're able to swallow that, then okay, if that's what you're gonna do, then we move forward. But we move forward without second guessing. We take that, we move in the right direction, and then we go. And then if something else arises that we weren't prepared for, then we hate. We got a break point, and then we just got to adjust, adapt, and we keep moving on. I love it. I love it. So you've mentioned several times something I believe in, which is the power of mentorship. I have multiple mentors that are skilled in different facets of life. And so
Starting point is 00:19:06 they become resources for me. And I think especially for leaders, but also for everyone, if you don't have a mentor or two or three, you definitely need to make sure you're finding them. So I love to ask LaVon, right, for you, I'm going to go for you personally, and then I'll have a follow up. So for you personally, what do you look for in mentors? I'm very, very keen. I'm a strong proponent advocate that success leaves clues. I don't think I have to go out and reinvent the world all the time. Times change, right?
Starting point is 00:19:36 So you innovative ways to come across, but the methodologies don't really steer too far from it. History repeats itself. So I look for, well, who, whatever I'm trying to do, if I'm trying to get to a certain goal, well, who's completed that goal, right? Then I do some research, well, how do they get it done? Right?
Starting point is 00:19:53 Does this apply to me? Is this a timely manner? And the time that it took them, is that, do I have that time and space to do it? If I do, okay, well, I might start marking that. If I don't, then I gotta figure out, how do I speed that up? And if I speed that up, what am I losing, What is the value that I'm going to miss out?
Starting point is 00:20:08 I may miss out on a learning tool or I may be so far ahead that I've missed out on a production. So it may get me there faster, but then I can't sustain it. And that's not where I want to be at either. So you got to find that balance when it comes to that. And I think that other than success itself, you got to understand that just kind of what you said, your mentors may not always be in the industry that you're in, right? So I love to have out of the box thinkers, someone that has nothing, a fresh pair of eyes,
Starting point is 00:20:34 because when you're in the thick of it, you kind of get tunnel vision sometimes. It is hard to step away when you're in the problem. But if I can go to someone who has no bias, right? No dog in the fight whatsoever, but just honorable person, someone that just has some forethought that can kind of take things
Starting point is 00:20:49 and just give me that honest opinion and evaluation, I'm all about it. That's wonderful. That's wonderful. And so now the second part of that question is for you as a mentor. What are some of the things that you're seeing with athletes, entertainers that are coming to the vine that's like, okay, I know that I'm going to need to be a mentor in this aspect of
Starting point is 00:21:12 their life. What would you say some of the common aspects are that you're seeing with, I don't want to say this newer athlete or entertainer, but this different generation of athletes and entertainers? I think the different generation, probably the biggest thing is that they have to understand that they themselves now are no longer really a football player by itself, right? You're not just a player. As you transition to the professional side, that's a profession, right? So you got to understand that, right? Being a profession, now you got to understand that you are brand, you are your own business.
Starting point is 00:21:44 So technically, once you graduate, you become a CEO, whether you want to or not, with no skills, no knowledge of anything, that title is on you. And for them to grasp that, some of them do, right? Especially with NIL when it comes into place, if the proper education is given to them, I think they understand that and that transition is a little bit easier, but some don't. And it's a rags to riches kind of deal. And those are the other things for it, just responsibility being financial, like literacy, that right, understanding how that works,
Starting point is 00:22:14 how money works, how it can work for you. Small things, things that we're accustomed to now, as I'm older, right, but I know no one was talking about that to me when I was younger, right? I think NIO brings an open platform and a space for us to start having those conversations a little bit earlier, especially now in the high schools, right? As they go to college, so with the collective deals, those are the things that you have to have taxes, right?
Starting point is 00:22:37 Some of them is just not aware, right? And they may not be thinking about it until you bring it up. They may be like, oh, you know what you write, you know know, and those are things you just kind of got to pull on. But I think once they see that you're trying to open them up to things that they should be aware of, maybe they're not, but it's going to allow them to be better. They're very much more receptive. So it's not always a fight, right? It's not always a bad thing.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I just, some of them just don't know they don't know, right? And they receive it as you come with it. And as you being authentic, right? Transparent, it's nothing that you're kind of hiding on the vaccine. It's very much more receptive than anything else. Yeah. So another question with this,
Starting point is 00:23:18 the modern agent that's coming out, the modern athlete, something you didn't have to deal with, right? So when you were in, I'm not calling you old, Yvonne, by any stretch of imagination, I'm a little bit older than you, but like we didn't have to deal with social media and all that, right?
Starting point is 00:23:32 Like we didn't have to deal with as many distractions today, not just athletes, but just everybody in the world has distractions in front of them 24 seven. How do you handle that? And what's some advice that you have, again, not just for athletes, but for the everyday listener out there,
Starting point is 00:23:49 of how to stay focused and not be so easily distracted? Yeah, social media, Facebook started when we were in school. Matter of fact, it was still so fresh when we were, while we were in school. When you went to sign up, you had to have a school email address, right? The Naval Academy handle was not even in there. You had to put it in there to be added.
Starting point is 00:24:09 So that was funny. But to manage the distractions, I mean, you really just have to tell them, I need you to be mature about this. You got to be in for the long game, the short game. The distractions today will definitely affect you two, three years down the road. And you don't want to look back and say, hey, four years ago, two years ago, I would have been here. But you took that time to do certain things.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Players may go to training. I'll give you an example. Training, right? Getting ready for the season or getting ready for their pro day combine, anything, right? And social media is very heavy, right? They're in their downtime. They're probably on social media,
Starting point is 00:24:45 follow me, whatever, I'll have you. But when they're posting their training or they're after training, they want to post it in the gym. That's great, right? Acknowledge document, that's all well and good. But then all I do is I ask, I say, let me ask this question.
Starting point is 00:24:57 The time that you took out to go get your phone, to go position yourself, to sit up here, to show that, hey, you worked in the gym and you worked out and you want to flex, right? Like what else could you have been doing, right? Because I'm asking you this, does that little time, right? If you add them all up collectively, it's going to get a couple of hours in your life.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Is that playbook time? Is that another workout? Is that another rep? Is that another set, right? Is that something that's going to propel you on the field? If you look at your phone, no phones on the field. No phones in between the white lines. Right? So that aspect of your training is nowhere to be found and it can't be translated from that little moment in time and it's going to make you a better football player. So I simply ask the question. I
Starting point is 00:25:40 put it on them. Right? I don't, I'm not the parent for them. Right? I just make sure they're aware of what they're doing. Again, I let you know the risks, right? That's the risk that you run into. As much as time as you put into that, if you miss a beat or you don't hit a mark, I'm always going to be like, was there any other time and space that we could have done in that time frame that we could have probably got there? Now, if you tell me you've done everything and the social media wasn't, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:26:04 right? We'll see. But if I can tell you that the person who has put the phone down who's taking the time to to sacrifice whatever time that is to focus on their crafts. I'm always going to say they're going to be the better player. That would be my bet hands down. I do the same thing when I talk to business leaders and salespeople, right?
Starting point is 00:26:25 It's like there's somebody who's not doing that right now. Your competition, there's somebody that's closing a million dollar deal because they're focused on the million dollar deal. There's some leader that's making the ultimate business decision that's going to move their company forward because they're focused on that business decision. They're not distracted by the phone or trying to see what my buddy's doing or, Oh my God, did you see this on Tik Tok? I can't tell you, I shouldn't say this out loud, but I'm going to say it
Starting point is 00:26:52 cause I'm talking to Lavon. So I work with a few fortune 500 companies. You would be surprised at how many fortune 500 CEOs are like amazed at what's happening on Tik Tok when they should be focused on this crazy dynamic business decision that they should be making or that their team is going through. They're goofing off, my words, they're goofing off on social media. And I'm like, yeah, you're not going to be the CEO of this company in a couple of years
Starting point is 00:27:20 because the decision that you're not making right now, it is also very telling, right? Like decision and indecision are in the same family. Listen, how you do anything is how you do everything. Hey, exactly. I have the saying, how you do small things is how you do all things, right? And that's it, man. So, LaVon, I want to go rapid fire, just a few questions.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Okay, let's go. So my best friend in the world, Darren Vermoest, shout out Darren, I know he's listening, is an Army guy, right? Okay. He wants me to ask you this question. Yes, we're gonna win. How bad is Navy gonna be on,
Starting point is 00:27:58 how bad is Navy gonna lose to Army in the game? I would say Darren, every time I've touched the field, I've never lost to Army. So I don't know how that feels or how that even happens. So if I'm a betting man, I say that I'm gonna give us 10 points. I think we got a 10 point win. I know Coach Monk and Coach Monk was coaching at the Navy
Starting point is 00:28:19 when I was there. So I love Coach Monk. I mean, Coach Monk and he's a dog. He would listen. If he can go out and win and get it scratched and did, he'll put his foot on your throat, right? 100%. Like, and I love that, right? He's there.
Starting point is 00:28:34 He see it, he goes for the kill. But I really do think that we have a team that can definitely, that can match up. And I'm looking forward to the game. I'll be there, of course. So I can't wait. Darren, I think that's the challenge. Yvonne said he'm looking forward to the game. I'll be there, of course, so I can't wait. Darren, I think that's a challenge. Von said he's gonna be at the game.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I don't know if you're gonna be watching on the couch with Mel and everybody else, so we'll see. But Darren, that was a challenge right there. All right, next question, man. So what's your favorite holiday? Fourth of July, fourth of July. In Florida, yeah, we were big on fireworks. I love fireworks. In Virginia, you really can't do them. So we go to the parks and they kind
Starting point is 00:29:11 of set them off with it through the city. But yeah, we've always been with fireworks family time. So yeah, I love that time frame. Okay. Favorite NFL team? Tampa Bay Buccaneers. No, I said your favorite NFL team. Like a couple of couple years Super Bowl winners? Yeah. Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Tampa Bay. Love it. Love it. College sport. What's your favorite college basketball team and why is it my alma mater, the University of North Carolina? I'm a Harry Kane's all day, so that won't change. I'm still going to be a Harry Kane fan. You keep Carolina. I'm Harry Kane's all day, so that won't change.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I'm still going to be a Harry Kane fan. You keep missing what I'm asking. I know what you're asking. College basketball. I can't give you what you want right now. College basketball. Carolina Blue, I love it. I'll wear a couple Jordans.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I'll do that for you. That's about it. There you go. There you go. All-time favorite athlete. There's a lot of them. It's tough to choose one. That's about it. There you go. There you go. All time favorite athlete. It's a lot of them. It's tough to choose one.
Starting point is 00:30:08 I mean, growing up, I mean, Deon is always in my position. Always been, but I will say, I know I was growing up, Bo Jackson, I had the cartoon, remember the cartoon All Stars? Absolutely. Yeah, so that was to get up. I used to have the little raider pajamas set, the bed set spread and everything. Yeah, Bo, Bo to get up. I used to have a little raider pajama set, the bed set, spread and everything. Yeah, Bo was on the map for me.
Starting point is 00:30:29 That's it. So Bo, you said my three are probably, if we go football, Bo, Barry and Deon. Yeah. Barry Sanders was my guy. Yeah. But Bo Jackson was a different breed. He was. He definitely was. Bo was a different breed. Cool, man. So what all do you have going on?
Starting point is 00:30:49 What do you want folks to know? Like, what's upcoming for LaVon? Right now? I mean, it's kind of the grind season for us as we continue to keep recruiting and getting ready to close some deals and bring some clients on the board for this next draft class. So we're still here trying to better ourselves. I'm actually so like professional development, we always say we're trying to learn, right? There's actually Harvard Business School has this executive leadership course in June.
Starting point is 00:31:14 So I just applied for that. Hopefully I get in. So pray for me, whoever's out there to pray and to pray on folks, please pray for them that I can get into that course. And just to be better at my craft. And now that I'm retired, like I'm just all I wanna do. I don't wanna do anything else. I don't wanna do the corporate job
Starting point is 00:31:29 and do an agent on the side. Like I'm a full-time agent. So I don't, I wake up and do this weekends, anything, right? Don't matter. Like I said, for Thanksgiving, so my high school, again, St. Thomas, we practice on Thanksgiving, right? Cause here in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:31:42 I flew home, so I flew to Florida to go to practice, go to Thanksgiving. Saw my dad, went to the game Friday, flew out Saturday. Now I'm in Texas visiting my mom right now. And then I fly back to Virginia tomorrow. So all for the work, but I love it. And she knows that she loves it too. So that support factor. And I would say, I would say that,
Starting point is 00:32:01 when you have a good circle to support you, that's one of the best things in the world. You really can't put any value on that piece. And I'm talking about just from parents to those who parents are still around that can still push you, not just as a student now, but as a professional and let you just kind of grow and cultivate on your own space. I would trade that for the world.
Starting point is 00:32:21 That's amazing, man. So where can people follow and find you? And I'll make sure we have links to everything in the show notes in the description. I make it very simple. Instagram and Twitter, it's just my full name, LaVon Kelly. So it's LaVon, L-A-V-A-U-G-H-N underscore Kelly, K-E-L-L-E-Y. There it is.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Simple enough. LaVon, brother, I appreciate you being on. We're gonna do this again so we can go into some of these stories, because they didn't get to see the comedian that I know you are as well, too. So thank you, brother. I know you're busy. Just, it meant the world to have you on.
Starting point is 00:32:55 And again, thank you so much for your service. Thank you. I appreciate it, man. Definitely, definitely. I thank you for this opportunity. I wish you all the best and continued success for you as well. And I'm looking forward to doing this again with you. You got it. wish you all the best and continued success for you as well. And I'm looking forward to doing this again with you. You got it.
Starting point is 00:33:09 And to all the listeners and viewers, remember your because is your superpower. Go unleash it. Thank you for tuning in to Make Unplugged. Keep pushing your limits, embracing your purpose, and chasing greatness. Until next time, stay unstoppable.

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