Mick Unplugged - Raymond Hicks Resilience Courage and Redemption

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

Raymond Hicks is an author, speaker, and advocate known for his book I'm Still Standing, which details his fight to clear his name after being wrongfully accused of a crime. His story of resilience an...d justice inspires others to persevere through adversity, and he continues to advocate for faith, determination, and justice. In this episode, Raymond reflects on the life lessons he learned, the role of his faith in navigating adversity, and the inspiration behind his book, I'm Still Standing. Takeaways: Integrity often comes with a price, but it defines character  Faith can provide strength in the darkest times Adversity can lead to a powerful purpose Sound Bites: "I questioned God, 'Why me?' And He replied, 'Why not you?' Faith is what kept me standing." "I refused to let my environment define me—I wanted my environment to reflect who I am."  Connect and Discover Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/imstillstandingraymondhicks Website: https://raymondimstillstan.wixsite.com/imstillstanding Youtube: @raymondhicks2305 Book: I’m Still Standing GoFundMe: Raymond Hicks a TRUE story of police corruption Email: raymondhicks2305@gmail.com 𝗙𝗢𝗟𝗟𝗢𝗪 𝗠𝗘 𝗢𝗡: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mickunplugged/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mickunplugged/ Apple:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mick-unplugged YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIPaMel-Fb4zQmCSZDPHu4A LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mickhunt/ Website: https://www.mickhuntofficial.com    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Mick Unplugged, where we ignite potential and fuel purpose. Get ready for raw insights, bold moves, and game-changing conversations. Buckle up, here's Mick. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting and informative episode of Mick Unplugged, and today's guest is a testament to resilience, courage, and the will to persevere. As the author of I'm Still Standing, he shares a personal journey that highlights both the darkest moments and the incredible triumphs of his life. His experience is not just a story of survival, but of standing tall in the face of insurmountable odds. Please join me in welcoming the determined, the courageous,
Starting point is 00:00:43 and the inspiring, my brother, Mr. Raymond Hicks. Brother Hicks, how you doing today, man? Good evening, my brother. How you doing, brother Hunt? Just want to thank you and God, you know, and Mick Unplugged for this opportunity to speak about, you know, these things that have taken place in my life. My brother, just want to tell you that I love you, man, and I just pray that God continue to elevate you and take you to levels that you have not seen before you know so that you may reach everybody I mean even internationally you know because it's very important especially when you have stories such as mine and my family. I appreciate that I received that man and I want to start with the story man so
Starting point is 00:01:22 highly decorated officer you know going even before that high school football star stud in the community And then there was a point where it just crashed man. A lot of people have Given up, but you did it and that's what makes your story So amazing and so uplifting and so I'd love to just give you the floor man Like wherever you want to start with your story, the background, but for all the listeners and viewers, I need everybody to just sit down and buckle up because this story right here is gonna change your life. Brother Hicks, it's yours, man. Yeah, so my name is Raymond LaMarr Hicks and I was born in Vero Beach, Florida,
Starting point is 00:02:03 but I grew up in a place called Gifford, as well as also here in Fort Lauderdale. And you know, I just remember when I was about maybe eight or nine years of age, you know, there was always chaos in my home where they were stabbing, cutting. My mother was shot. My dad went to prison. So I remember the cops coming to my home and this is after my mom and dad just finished plunging knives into each other
Starting point is 00:02:25 body and the cops would put me aside you know saying hey little man come here you know let me talk to you and of course then they put me aside you know taking me from the work that was going on they begin to you know counsel me you know said hey this is the blackjack which were two leather straps with um still at the end of the two leather straps, then the handcuffs and then they talked to me about the importance of the gun, you know, and they were saying maybe one day you could be, you know, become one of us a law enforcement officer. So it was during that time that I said to myself as a little kid, you know, if I didn't make it in football, which was my aspiration, you know, I would go into
Starting point is 00:03:05 law enforcement to make a difference. And of course, granted, you know, I grew up where there was my dad couldn't read or write. He dropped out in third grade, couldn't even spell his own name. My mother dropped out in seventh grade. You know, there I was going to school. But one of the things that he did, brother, huh, but he taught me how to fight. So I've been fighting ever since I was six years of age, you know He bought me a soccer bakum and he said, you know each time you punch you better touch it, you know
Starting point is 00:03:32 And if you don't touch it, I'm gonna touch you and of course, you know I became so efficient with my hand that every time I passed is the punch this soccer bakum It was a ball that stood up on like a little pole and when you punch it, it go in different directions. And of course my hand got so good, my brother, that, you know, each time that ball I punched and it went different direction, I was touching it, you know, and it came a point where the teacher asked me, you know, Ms. Kirby asked me to read a sentence in class. And of course I couldn couldn't read I couldn't write, you know, and I got up and I tried to do the best that I could. And the kids begin to laugh at me, you
Starting point is 00:04:11 know, and I said, Okay, you want to laugh? You wait after class. And soon as that the class was over, you know, I wouldn't know talking with me, I started, you know, going upside the head, you know, and she said, You come here, come here. She said, you're very respectful. She said, but every time I asked you to read a sentence, you always get into a fight. And that's when you know, I began to explain to her, I say, ma'am, I don't have anyone to help me. You know, I mean, my dad dropped out in third grade, he can't read or write, can't spell his own name. My mom dropped out in
Starting point is 00:04:42 seventh grade. She had to harvest in the fields of Georgia, you know, and I said, I don't have anyone to help me. I can't spell his own name. My mom dropped out in seventh grade. She had to harvest in the fields of Georgia. You know, and I said, I don't have anyone to help me. I was getting D's and F's my brother. And of course, you know, when you grew up in the hood, you know, a lot of times your parents are not even concerned about the grades that you get, you know, and they don't even ask you what type of grades are you receiving, you know? And that was something that they never asked me when I was a young kid and she'd been getting to tutor me so I went from D's and F's to C's and D's to A B's and C's to I was able to earn
Starting point is 00:05:13 myself a scholarship you know but prior to me going to college I remember I was about 17 years of age as you mentioned earlier on in this interview that I was a standout athlete. I won the most athletic award throughout Vero Beach High School, football, basketball and track. I set records, you know, and of course I was about 17 years of age and we had a basketball game and we normally stop at like McDonald's, you know, at the conclusion of the game. And of course, I asked my mom if she could give me $2. And she scraped up, you know, all the Knickers, quarters, dimes that she could muster. And she couldn't even give me $2.
Starting point is 00:05:55 But what she did, there was a grocery store called Piggly Wiggly. And they had the brown paperbacks. And of course, you know, my mother, she made me two peanut butter sandwiches and she put those peanut butter sandwiches in that brown paperback. And I took it and put it in a bag that the coach gave me,
Starting point is 00:06:13 you know, where you put your shoes and your equipment in. And when everybody got off the bus to go into McDonald's, I sat on the bus, you know, I was eating my peanut butter sandwiches. So I happened to speak to one of the players and he saw what was going on. So he went and told coach Davenport, his name is Ron Davenport, he said, hey coach, you know, Hicks don't have any money. You know, he's still sitting on the bus.
Starting point is 00:06:38 And one of the things that my mother and father have always told me when I was young, if you don't have it, you don't ask nobody for it, you know, and that's just something that I think they do in the hood, you know, in the ghetto that we refer to as poverty. And of course, he says, wait, you get off this bus from this day forward, I'm gonna pay for your dinner, you know, and that's what he did, you know. And finally, I told my mom, I'm getting ready to go to college mom, because I earned myself a 2.5 GPA. I could have gone to any university that I wanted to go to brother Hunt. You know, I had offers from the Gators, UM, a lot of cats that I played ball with, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:18 they played ball for University of Miami like Dale Dawkins, Dame Stewart, some of these guys, they looked up to me, you know. But in a way, I decided to go to Missouri. A friend of mine that I grew up with, you know, he was like, yo, Ray, this is a great school, man. Why don't you come out here, which was a Division Two. It wasn't a Division One school, but it was a Division Two. And of course, I told my mom, I said, Mom, I'm going to need money, you know, to go to Missouri. And she scraped up 90. My mother was a migrant worker. You know, she worked at Hogan and Son packing house, making a dollar an hour. My dad worked there also. And of course, she scraped up these $99. And she put me on that Greyhound bus. I was on that bus for three days
Starting point is 00:08:01 and three nights. And I know, forget it, brother hunt. We arrived at Nashville, Tennessee. And when I arrived there, you know, one of the things that I'm proud to know that my mother always said, Hey, if you get hungry, go drink as much water as you possibly can, because that water will make you feel like you fool. And when we arrived in Nashville, Tennessee, there was an older white lady. She said, young man, you and I've been on this bus for three days and three nights. Now, I haven't seen you eat anything. And she gave me a bologna sandwich and a banana. And I swear to God, you thought I was eating a porterhouse steak, my brother, you know, Thanksgiving, huh? Yes, sir. You know, I was so happy that God brought it to my life because I had no money. I had nothing, man. The only thing I had was a black footlocker.
Starting point is 00:08:52 And of course, we arrived in Missouri. And when I arrived in Missouri, the coach said to me, where's this kid from Florida that got wheels? I said, coach, I said, I'm from Florida, but I don't have no car inside. He said, no, I want to know'm from Florida, but I don't have no car inside. He said, no, I want to know if you can run. I'm like, run on foot? I said, man. So they took me down to the turf and I ran like a 4-3-5-40. And then he said, come on, let's run it again. Run it over. I ran a 4-3-7. And from that day, you know, my life kind of like took off, you know, where the
Starting point is 00:09:23 booster club and everybody, you know, I scored every game. And I was determined, man, to become a professional football player, even from a Division II school. You know, I was running up for Ricky at a year award my freshman year, my sophomore year, I broke all the Russian records. Going into my junior year, I became an All-American. And then, of course, the young lady who I'm married to now, I met her there. My friend Mark Bellamy was the one who introduced me to my wife. And she had to go into the Navy on a delayed entry program. So they gave her orders to go to Scotland. And during this time, you know, her and I, we was engaged.
Starting point is 00:09:59 And I'm like, you know what? The only way we can keep you from going to Scotland is to get you pregnant. So that's how our first daughter come about. And I left school, you know, I The only way we can keep you from going to Scotland is to get you pregnant. So that's how our first daughter come about. And I left school, you know, I didn't have a father in my life, man. My dad walked away from us when I was about 12 years of age. So I didn't have that father figure in my life to sit down and talk to me and, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:18 coach me along the way, you know? So I just basically went off my own instincts because I've always said that, you know, if I have a family, I don't want to walk away from my family. I want to be there for them, you know, because it's so important that you got both parents in the home and not just one, you know, because it takes a strong person, man, you know, to raise especially young men like myself, you know, who come from the gutter, man. You know, I come from the bottom brother hunt.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I mean, it was it was so difficult gutter, man. I come from the bottom, brother, hunt. I mean, it was so difficult for us, man. And I just said to myself, I'm gonna do what's right. And my mother had to sign the consent in order for us to get married, because my wife was stationed in Paso Gula, Mississippi. She was on the USS Simon Lake. And I got a job working at the shipyard there. And I worked there until
Starting point is 00:11:06 I told my wife I said you know it's time for us you mean to go back to Florida and I'll try and get a job so I can continue to take care of my family. So I came back here to Fort Lauderdale which is where I used to come almost every year from about 11 to 12 years of age I came here to spend time with my family. And of course, I always said that, you know, this would be my home, you know, as a young kid. So I arrived here, and I got a job working construction at the 110 tower, which is right across the street from the courthouse. And I was doing construction work. And I said, No, I'm not going to do this long. So I went and applied for the Broward Sheriff's Office. So 111986 is when I tried for the Briar Sheriff office
Starting point is 00:11:49 and I was hired by them as a detention officer. I love it. I love it. So I wanna pause the story here and ask you about some things, man, that you were just bringing up. So one, at an early age, you knew that what was going on in the household wasn't
Starting point is 00:12:07 right, right? And I have a very similar story of, you know, seeing things in the household, but not accepting it as normal. And what I love is that you were determined because you could have literally just said, okay, dad dropped out third grade, mom dropped out sixth or seventh grade. There's no bar for me. But what brother Hicks said was I'm going to create the bar. I'm going to create the standard. So I want to applaud you for creating that standard for yourself. And I'm going to go deeper here because you kind of highlighted some things, right?
Starting point is 00:12:39 And I know Raymond Hicks is modest and he ain't going to go there. So I'm going to tell you the things that he didn't tell you. Raymond Hicks was a doggone stud in high school. Let me tell you something. When he said he ran a 437, after he ran a 435, people don't do that. And so I'd love for you to just talk a little about your football prowess too, man.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Like, what was it like you leaving Florida for the first time, going into Missouri, a spot that you didn't really know anyone Other than your best friends, right? Like what was that like and then when you knew and realized you were just dominating scoring a touchdown in every game Some games three and four touchdowns again Raymond ain't gonna tell you I'm gonna tell you What was that like for you when you just were like I'm that guy Well, you know ever since I was a little kid, my mother would tell you this. I always went to bed with a football or basketball
Starting point is 00:13:29 in my arms, you know? And I mean, when you talk about a great athlete, I mean, Vero Beach, my name was up in the gymnasium. You know? I mean, I scored, I don't know how many touchdowns, I don't know how many hundreds and thousands of yards that I had. As a matter of fact, my ninth grade year, I was moved up to varsity and we won the very
Starting point is 00:13:53 first state championship in 1981 at Vero Beach High School where we played against Pensacola Windham. And that's the first time that Vero Beach High School have ever won a state championship. They have not won a championship since that time. You know, just go to show you the type of athletes that was there and the athleticism that, you know, we displayed each and every day, man. You know, we was hungry, you know, a lot of time where people don't realize. And that's why I give my brother Dion credition credit Deion Sanders credit because of the fact where he came from you know he used his life as an illustration to these young people to inspire
Starting point is 00:14:30 him you know a lot of people don't realize man take your time brother take your time take your time man you know it's your only way out man know, it's the only way out is with your athletic ability. And you know, my family, man, I grew up around killers, man. You know, I mean, if my mom and dad was plunging knives into each other body, and he eventually shot my mom, even shot his own best friend, best friend, because they said he touched my mom's leg. I wasn't there at the time, but this is what I was informed. And it was my dad's best friend. His name was Mr. Knott.
Starting point is 00:15:14 And of course, he went up under the tree where they played dominoes and cars and stuff. They drank, smoke, and all this other stuff. And that's where my dad found him at. And my dad said, not did you touch my wife leg? And he said, if I touch the leg, what you gonna do? He said, I'm gonna shoot you, man, if you tell me you touched my wife leg. And of course he said, yeah, I touched her.
Starting point is 00:15:37 And my dad pulled out a Chrome 32 with a Pearl handle, for what I was told, Mr. Hunt. And I know for me being in law enforcement that when he tried to shoot him in his face from what I was told, daddy jerked the trigger, you know, it's like when you shoot if you ain't squeezing and you jerking it is the brown is not going to go with when you anticipate it going, you know, and he said you didn't shoot me said no, I didn't get you that time. But I get you this time. The second one hit him in his neck. And my dad did eight years in prison. It's not easy, man. When you come from
Starting point is 00:16:09 the hood, a lot of these young athletes, man trying to get out, you know, they want to make something out of themselves. And the only way they can come out of this type of environment is from the athletic ability, you know, and that's what I was striving on, you know, I said, I'm gonna make it to the pros, man, I know I'm making the pros, whether it be basketball, football or track, you know, and I was determined, my brother.
Starting point is 00:16:31 And I tell you, it's just amazing to me because, you know, when you grew up in poverty, you know, and you see a lot of these different things, but I didn't wanna become a product of my environment, brother Hunt. I wanted my environment to become a product of who I am. So the things that I witnessed and I saw and You know i'm saying to myself, I don't want this for me man You know, I want to get away from here and that's what enticed me to leave or my mom say where you're going
Starting point is 00:16:58 I said mom i'm going to missouri. She said missouri She said son, you know, why would you go so far? You don't know nobody. I said, I know one person that was Mark Bellamy and I decided to go to Missouri, you know, and it really changed my life, man. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I appreciate that insight in that story, man. You're touching millions with this story and now let's go back to the Fort Lauderdale police department. So 1986, you apply, right? And again, Brother Raymond Hicks being Brother Raymond Hicks,
Starting point is 00:17:31 you don't do anything halfway. So if you go in all in, you go in all in, and you were trying to not only be the best, but also be an example. And so let's talk about the early years of the police department. So you get there, and then you become highly decorated, man. One of the most decorated folks on the force.
Starting point is 00:17:49 So let's talk about that a little bit. Yeah, so when I first got hired at the Broward Sheriff's Office and detention, working in the jail, I used to hear the cries of brothers and sisters saying, hey, man, they planting drugs on us. They beating us to the ground. They taking money from us. And one of the guys that I grew up with, we call, they planting drugs on us. They beating us to the ground. They taking money from us, you know. And one of the guys that I grew up with,
Starting point is 00:18:07 we call him Gaston Aitkins. We call him G. Fresh, but his name is Gaston Aitkins. And of course, G, you know, he was out in the streets, man, robbing and, you know, selling drugs and everything else. And I used to always get on him. I'm like, G, listen, man, the recidivism rate is constantly growing by a vast number, man. You need to change your life around, gee. I said, what about your wife and kids? Man, you was one of the ones that made it out the hood, man. I said, so can you, gee? I said,
Starting point is 00:18:33 you need to change your life around, man. So the third time that he went to prison, Mr. Hunt, he actually took up a trade, you know, operating back holes. And of course, when he came home, he got a job as a construction worker. And that brother went from just a regular construction worker to a foreman, and to a superintendent, and now he own his own construction company. You know, his son's actually worked out with the Miami Dorfus. His name is Jonathan Aikens, and also Marquis Aiken, you know, so people can change man, you know, it just takes someone to inspire them
Starting point is 00:19:06 and teach them about, hey, man, what you gonna do with your life, man? You know, you sitting here, you going through all of this stuff, you know, what about your family? And a lot of times, you know, when you're growing up in poverty, people don't care about their family, man. You know, the family's involved in all kinds of crazy stuff. I got killers in my family, man.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I got young people in my family, man. I got young people in my family been selling drugs, own drugs, robbing, home invasion, and everything else that you can think of. So I didn't, you know, again, like I said, I didn't wanna become a product of my environment, my brother, I wanted to be an example. And while I was a deputy, yes,
Starting point is 00:19:41 I was a highly decorated officer, man. I risked my life so many different times, you know, to earn the awards that I received from that agency. For an example, in 1997, there was a gentleman who actually came from the Sacchiatra ward and he punched one of our sergeants in the face and he was trying to toss him over the rail. You know, he literally knocked the sergeant out and I happened to be walking by and the sergeant Sinclair say, Ray, go, go, go. So I ran into the unit and the deputy who was there, he panicked, you know, the
Starting point is 00:20:14 deputy panicked. He didn't do anything and he'd get ready to toss him. So finally I got there and I told him, put him down, man. So I helped him put him down. He was knocked out cold, you know and um they were trying to move it back downstairs to general population he didn't want to go you know and um that was a big brother too man he was about six two to seventy to seventy four um and he hit him and literally knocked him out and as a matter of fact he hit me and literally almost knocked me out I mean it was like somebody taking one of those hot combs that you put on the stove back in the days, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 00:20:50 and it straightened the hair and it felt like he went from the front of my head to the back of my head, man. He hit me so hard, you know. And the inmates went to screaming out, man, Big Hicks gonna kill you, man. And when I came to my equilibrium, brother hunt, I hit him so hard that if you looked at my left hand right here, you'll see where the bone actually came through the skin. And they had to put two pins crisscrossing each other. And they had to take bone fragments out right here. And I lost my knucker right here. So yeah, so we both went to the hospital that day, man. But thank God I was, you know, able to get in there, man,
Starting point is 00:21:27 because had he tossed him over them rails, man, he wouldn't survive. He would have probably really did some real serious damage to the sergeant, you know, dermatarchists. And they gave me the Civil Cross Award. And then of course, they gave me deputy of the month in 1997. I went on in 1999. I risked my life doing an armed carjacking. I thought it was an armed robbery.
Starting point is 00:21:52 So I see this car coming down the street and I was in civilian clothing. And when the light turned red, I saw the taxicab stop. But there was two black individuals in the car. So when the light turned green the car merged into the fence. So when the car merged into the fence I saw the two of them fighting. So I said let me just stop and break up the fight. So as I stopped to break up the fight brother Hunt, I discovered they wrestling over 350 said Magnum. One round went through the roof of the car. The subject took a
Starting point is 00:22:23 chunk out of the victim eye I they both were saying he's robbing me. He's robbing me. So going back to my special training that I had, you know, I had to secure that weapon. So what I did is I did a redirect, I put pressure on that trigger finger, then make him release it either release it or it's going to snap. And he released the gun gun and the subject took off running. So when he took off running, I got on the phone, call communication, hey, I need his poppers in the air, I need a perimeter set up, I gave my location, I told him who I was,
Starting point is 00:22:55 you know, I gave my CCN number and of course within a few minutes they set up a perimeter and they arrested this 18 year old kid. Come to find out, he gets into the taxi off of Cistron, which is one of the worst areas here in Broward County. He gets into the taxi and have the taxi take him off of Oakland Park at 21st Avenue. And he went upstairs and retrieved the gun, according to the report that I read, came back downstairs and made the taxi cab driver get in the passenger seat. And at this time he was robbing him.
Starting point is 00:23:28 So of course it was the armed carjacking. I thought it was an armed robbery, but it was an armed carjacking. I went in, it was in 1999, I went to Gold Cross Award. That's the highest award that anyone can receive without getting killed in the line of duty. Wow. That's amazing brother.
Starting point is 00:23:46 So much that you were able to achieve and as always, always being the example, right? The example for others to follow the standard that you've always set for yourself. Now let's talk about moving forward. So, you know, you hinted a little bit that you saw corruption going on in the police department, talk us through not necessarily the corruption, but the moment of when you decided that you needed to say something, you needed to do something, and obviously the aftermath of that piece too.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Yeah, so going back to 1990, you know, the broader share forms were manufacturing their own drugs, and it was given to us to be sold in the street, which is entrapment. And of course I said something about it. I told him, I said, you know, how could the bar sheriff officers be manufacturing their own drugs and give it to us to be sold in the street? So they pulled several of us out of the jail, you know, blacks. And if you had any type of street mentality, brother Hunt, they want to use you for these sting operations, you know, like, especially, you know, with me coming from the hood, man, you
Starting point is 00:24:49 know, the what's happening, I got them parlay's, you know, meaning that the cocaine rocks that we were selling was probably about the size of our thumb. And, but I always knew that there was something wrong with that situation. As a matter of fact, I even kept a document that I think I sent to you showing that I was one of the ones who was actually working this thing operation. And they gave me a letter of accommodation because we arrested about maybe 30 some people that night. We confiscated over 100 some cocaine rocks.
Starting point is 00:25:18 And just to let you know, they was actually cooking the drugs at the courthouse on the seventh floor. We had a deputy cooking the drugs and they were packaging it and everything, you know, and it was just, I just knew something went right with that. And they created something which was called the cradle. Within a thousand feet of a school was three years in the state penitentiary, you know. So if you get caught within a thousand feet of a school, you automatically get a mandatory three years in the Florida state prison. you automatically get a mandatory three years in the Florida State Prison. So the Sheriff's Office was manufacturing their own drugs
Starting point is 00:25:50 for distribution. And I'm trying to read between the lines for setup as well, right? Yes. And Raymond Hicks said, I gotta say something. Right? Absolutely. So talk us through that when you had the courage to say, I've gotta go against the grain
Starting point is 00:26:12 and I've gotta report this. And I'm sure part of it was one, you've gotta do the right thing because that's who you are. And I also feel like a part of it is your conscience just wasn't gonna let you sleep, wasn't gonna let you function sleep, wasn't going to let you function knowing that this was going on. So walk us through that moment of when you decided to say something. Well, you know, I told him, I said, you know, this is entrapment, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:36 how is it that we manufacture the drugs and you guys are giving it to us? And granted that the cocaine rock was in a Ziploc package and it had a serial number on it. And the money that they was giving us with marked money. So a lot of times what we did is that we would take informants of person who've gone out there and committed a crime and that person we would give them cocaine rocks and the money they were going to a certain particular location and they will make the transaction with the subject and come back and give us the intel. So when they come back and tell us who these people are, so what we had with the backup unit would move in and they were arresting these
Starting point is 00:27:14 individuals and then we get out and pose as undercover dealers. I had three goals in my mouth, you know, which is another indication that, you know, I'm a part of the street, you know, which in fact, I never been a part of the streets. I grew up in the streets, but I never been a part of the streets. And of course, they had us out there, man, and we were selling these drugs, and I told them that it was wrong. And they told me I shouldn't mind my business. And I told them what you mean mind my business. business and of course I just made a decision that I was gonna stop selling drugs and I went and got a job working for a boot camp they chose me to go to a Fort McCollum drill sergeant school in order to get certified as a drill instructor because the Brown Shadfarmers
Starting point is 00:27:58 were implementing their own boot camp program so I went to Fort McCollum me and several other individuals and it was really hard, man. It was physically hard, mentally hard, academically it was hard. You know, these drill instructors was not going to give you anything if you didn't earn it, you know. And of course, I went through that course, I passed it, and I came back to Broward County. As a matter of fact, while I was there, Brother Hunt, I called my wife. I told her, I said, listen, go ahead and send me a ticket, man. I arrived on Sunday and that Thursday, I was ready to come back home because it was just that intense. You know, it was just that hard,
Starting point is 00:28:34 you know. And, but one of the drill instructors said to me, he said, if you guys going to put other people through the same type of regiment training that we put you through, this is the reason why we actually have you going through this program so you will be able to understand the distinguish between turning it on and turning it off, which means that you break a person down but you help rehabilitate that person and make them a stronger person. And when I came back, let me tell you something, I was one of the best drill instructors that anybody would ever come in contact with. When you look at me, I mean, you would think that I was actually served in the United States Army,
Starting point is 00:29:12 Marines, or even the Navy. I mean, I was just that sharp, man. My boots, you can literally see yourself with my boots. My uniform, it was so pressed that you think it cut you, you know, because that's something that I took pride in, man. You know, I want to set the tone and example for those individuals that was coming through the boot camp program and a lot of times I used my life as an illustration to them to let
Starting point is 00:29:36 them know that I come from the gutter. You know, it took something for me to come out of that type environment to be the person that I am now and this is the reason why, you know, I'm a jewel instructor to inspire you to lead you and guide you in the right direction. Yep. Always the example, right? Raymond Hicks is always the example. But then things change, right? Yes. There's a moment when all of a sudden the tables turn. And again, I'd love for you to be able to tell this in your own way. Tell us about what transpired next. So of course you know as I was working in boot camp I decided to go through the crossover academy from correction to law enforcement. So I finished the academy. I was going to school at night from 4 to 10 up in Palm Beach. I graduated from there and then I came back and I began to work
Starting point is 00:30:26 narcotics again. I worked with drug task force OCD which is organized crime in the cradle. And of course I'm watching these individuals they plant drugs on black offenders and beat them to the ground and taking money. I mean they were busting their head open with this PR 24. It was a flashlight that carried D batteries but we call it a PR 24 but it It was a flashlight that carried D batteries, but we call it a PR 24, but it's actually a flashlight that we used to have on that we carried on our side. And I mean, they were splitting these guys' heads open, man, you know, where they putting staples and everything else in their head. And it got to a point, brother Hunt, that the way that they were beating these blacks, man, I got so angry. And I admit
Starting point is 00:31:04 that I was wrong, but I started knocking the white folks out, you know, every time I made a transaction with them, you know, I was hitting them and knocking them out. And the commander came to me, she says, Ray, why are you hitting them like that? I said, why are they hitting them like that? You guys ain't said nothing about how they're busting these people's head open. And you ain't doing nothing about that. So why are you saying something to me? But, you know I was wrong for that you know but I just felt like you
Starting point is 00:31:29 know why are you doing my people like this and you think that it's okay it's not okay man I'm gonna say something about it. I called the cops for my dad when he was doing wrong you know when they was fighting and everything else I would dial 911 you know so I felt like it was the right thing to do you know and um it just got to a point man where I'm watching these folks take money you know because of the one particular area that we was on the sunrise and 4th avenue and 6th street um they was actually had these brothers were selling cocaine rocks for 40, 50, 60 dollars so the commander would give us X amount of rocks you know we'd get out there and pose the commander would give us X amount of rocks, you know. We'd get out
Starting point is 00:32:05 there and pose and they would give us the money. And I'm watching these dudes leave with thousands of dollars each and every night, man. I'm like, what are you guys doing, man? You're no different than the one that we just put in the padded wagon and they've been taken down town. You should be going to jail yourself. They told me again, I need to mind, you need to mind your business. What the freak you mean mind my business? You know, and it just got, it just got worse from there, man. You know what I mean? Because I felt like it was the right thing for me to say something about what I saw and what I witnessed.
Starting point is 00:32:35 It's not what I heard. It's what I saw and nobody can refute this. I have documents and everything else as it relates to everything I'm sharing with you, my brother, to back up what I'm saying. And it really got bad for me, man. They came to me and told me, hey, Ray, we're not going to use you out here on the streets no more. We're going to put you back in the jail. I said, I don't give a flying you know what, you know, you can put me back in the jail. That's where I started from. And of course they put me back in the jail. I was working the sixth floor. And I was working Bravo ship 73.
Starting point is 00:33:07 And when I left work to go home, I normally take a shower and I lie down. And I wake up around about five, 530. I had like 600 and something pounds in my backyard. And of course, me and my neighbors, one of the sergeant sons, they used to come and work out with me every day. And there I am, getting ready to go in my backyard
Starting point is 00:33:29 and work out. I look across the street and I'm like, that's either the SWAT team or the drug task force mounting up. And when they saw me, brother Hunt, they all jumped in their cars and they spit down the back street of my home. So I told a young man that I was working out with, I said said come on man this let's go to the front of my yard. My
Starting point is 00:33:49 wife had gone to win Dixie which was like maybe a couple blocks from the house. You know they had me and my kids at gunpoint. They had my 12 year old daughter and my seven year old daughter at gunpoint man. Sixt 60-something cops throwing me at gunpoint. And they was saying, hey, are you Ray Hicks? I said, you guys know I'm Ray Hicks, man. What's the problem? And they said, well, we got a one for your arrest. I said, a one for who arrest?
Starting point is 00:34:15 For what? So all of a sudden this black dude named Ricky Clark, he come pat me at my shoulder. Hey, come on, man, come on, Hicks. I said, what you mean, Ricky? What the freak you mean, calm down? I'm looking at my shoulder, hey come on man, come on hips. I said what you mean Ricky? What the freak you mean calm down? I'm looking at him like because if they had told me what they were coming to get me for a brother hunt they would have killed me that day because I ain't never tried drugs in my entire life. I never tried a marijuana cigarette that we refer
Starting point is 00:34:38 to as a joint. I never took a drink a day in my entire life and God is my witness if they had told me what they were coming here to get me for, they'd have killed me, man. So of course, he started trying to calm me down, you know? So my daughter get on the phone, she called my wife. Hey, mom, they got daddy here. You know, the police got daddy here. And Rob Shaw came to me, hey, wait,
Starting point is 00:35:00 we gonna place you on suspension pending the outcome of this case. I'm like, what case? What case? You guys ain't showed me no warrant. And you what case are you talking about? Well, we can't discuss it right now. What you mean you can't discuss it. So they go in there with looking tan of stuff in the house looking for I don't know what they're looking for. You got any guns? Yes, I got guns. They belong to me. They don't belong to the sheriff department. So they hurry up and handcuff me and put me in a marked unit and transported me over to District 5. So when I ride to District 5, I'm still
Starting point is 00:35:35 asking a question. Why am I here? Ray, we gotta book you in. I'm saying book me in for what? What are the charges? They still ain't told me nothing. So of course After they booked me and they transported me over to the city jail. So when I get over to the city jail I'm asking question brother hunt. Why am I here? What did I do man? Everybody started telling me well, we can't discuss it. You know, we can't discuss it right? What'd you mean? You can't discuss it? You can't tell me what okay. Let me talk to a lawyer. They wouldn't even give me an opportunity to call a lawyer, you know, nor did they ever read me my my Miranda. You know, so of course, they put me in isolation,
Starting point is 00:36:17 solitary confinement. I'm there for 24 hours. The next day, the marshals arrived. I'm like, Whoa, man, what the marshals doing here? Ray, we here to take you to court. Okay, for what? Well, we can't get into it, Ray. We just here to transport you to court. So they handcuffed me, my brother, with the handcuffs like this in front of me,
Starting point is 00:36:39 they shackle me, and they had the chains intertwined with the handcuffs and shackles. They put me in an unmarked unit and transporting over to the federal courthouse. So when I ride up over there, my wife and my mom sitting there in the courthouse, you know, and the prosecutor, DA, she says, when Mr. Hicks is at work, he's in the top 10% of his department. But when he's not at work, he's into other curricular activity. I'm looking at my mom and my wife saying like, what the freak is this woman talking about, man? And then she actually proffered to the courts. She
Starting point is 00:37:14 said that I went to various states, they're living 350 kilograms of cocaine that was equivalent to $750 million. Wow. Wow. That part I did not know. That's wild and crazy. Totally insane. Totally insane. So you're in court and you get convicted wrongfully, right? And I know it's a moment you never forget,
Starting point is 00:37:45 having to look at your family, those that look up to you, and that's the image that they see, right? Not the superstar Raymond Hicks, not the decorated officer, not the man of the community. That's the image that they see. And I know that that's the pain, because it's pain for me, right? That's the pain that I know images of other people's mind, other people's perception,
Starting point is 00:38:10 you can never take away. And so I know that that had to eat it to you more than anything. So it's basically the magistrate judge. She said, you're not a flight risk. She said, but you're a menace to society. Take your time brother. And you know who you are. And you know what you've done for your community, for other communities, keeping people safe, keeping families together. And to hear that Raymond Hicks is a menace to society. That's-
Starting point is 00:38:47 I'm a menace to society. I ain't never been in trouble my entire life. I was a holiday grade officer, never been in trouble. 15 years on the force, I'm a menace. So of course she slammed the gavel, told the marshals come in and escort me out. So of course, they take me to the holding cell and I'm going in the holding cell where there was five other guys who I used to work out with at the
Starting point is 00:39:19 gym. And all of us was big dudes, man, you know, bitching like 500, 600. I mean, a lot of weight. And I'm looking at every last one of them, Brother Hunt. And Lord is my witness on everything I love, man. I'm like, what's one of you to say something about me, man? You know? They're like, come on, Big Hicks, man.
Starting point is 00:39:39 You tripping, man. I'm like, what's one of you say something about me? Because really, I'm ready to tear their head off their body, man. Because really, I'm ready to tear their head off their body, man. I'm ready to tear their head off their body. I'm ready to fight with every last one of them in the unit. They're like, come on, man. You tripping, man. Ain't nobody, none of us ain't said nothing about you, man.
Starting point is 00:39:57 This is crazy. And of course, they hurry up and take us out. They give us a backlash and take me down to the federal prison man. I get down there and these people treated me in humane. You know they said all your belongings we gonna take it and send it back to your house. So they took all my clothes and everything they put in a box. They send it back to my home. It's a certain way that your script set your inmate brother the hunt, you know, and I noticed because when I worked in the jail, you know, and the way that they try
Starting point is 00:40:29 to treat me, man, it was inhumane. I mean, literally inhumane. You know, when you script such an inmate, you know, if they got hair, you have to run their finger through their hair, you know, they have to lift up their tongue, you have to turn around, you know, the lift of the bottom of their feet, and of course we haven't lift up their tongue, you haven't turn around, you know, the lift at the bottom of their feet. And of course, we haven't been at the waist and spread the cheeks and cough, you know. And I told my team, man, there's nothing professional about you guys, man. I said, but you know what, you got a job to do. So they come and give me an orange jumper. And they took me and put me in a hole. I stayed in the hole for five months.
Starting point is 00:41:13 But I remember Ray Lewis, how when he went to jail, he was doing push-ups. The only way I could really go to sleep, you know, my brother was to actually, I started doing a thousand to fifteen hundred push ups every other night, you know, and when they brought the food toing at me every single day, man. You that effing cop. I hope you call for the rest of your life. You that cricket cop. You know, I said I ain't never been a cricket cop. And furthermore, I've been here for something that I didn't do. Yeah, that's what they all said. I said, I don't know what they all say. But I'm telling you what I'm saying. I don't have a right to be here. And I should be here. You know, and I'm saying, I don't have a right to be here, and I should be here.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And I say, and furthermore, you guys are not professional. I say, none of you guys are professional. I say, your job is not to judge me based on the fact that what I'm in here for. Your job is to remain as a professional. Your job is to do your job the way the policy and procedure that SOP, the standard operation procedure, said that you should do.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Your job is not for you to judge me based on the fact that I'm here locked up for something that I have not done. You know, and it just got to a point, my brother, that I'm ready to fight with all of them. You know, I started, there's an emergency button inside the unit and I start pushing the button like repeatedly because now when you stay, I think it should be mandated that a man or woman who be placed in a hole. Don't stay in there no more than a few hours, man. Because to be in there for days and months. I don't know if you ever seen the movie, Ruben Hurricane Carter,
Starting point is 00:42:57 when there was actually in the hole. And you know, yeah, you thought hallucinating, man, you know, it's like the walls are caving in on you like you can put your arms out there, you know, and like you can test the walls. I mean, this is the type of stuff that you experienced, man. And they feed you like you some dog, you know, they let down the cover slot, you know, they call it a feeding port and hole, where you let the trade out and then you put the tray on there you know and it's a total darkness you're in there 23 hours a day one hour a day for recreation envision going to your bathroom close um turn out the lights and if you've been in there for 23 hours a day you only come out for
Starting point is 00:43:38 one hour a day for recreation and you don't go nowhere for rec you go right around the corner in another unit similar to what you're already in. So it really intensified, man. But I will never forget this brother named Captain Fernandez. And when God bless me, Brother Hunt, I'm gonna find that brother, man. I'm gonna bless him and his family. Trust me when I tell you that.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Because that man treated me with respect. You know, he had them come and get me and bring me to his office. You know, so they had me put my arms to the feeding port. They handcuffed me before they came in the cell because I really want to tear their head off, brother hunt. May God be my witness on everything I love, you know? And once that put my hand in, they came in and shackled me and took me to his office. So when I went to his office, he said, Mr.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Hicks, he said, Listen, man, you know, you was one of us at one time. I said, Yes, I was one of myself. I would never one of these guys who you got out here working for you. I said, you know, he said, but what can I do for you? I said, I haven't talked to my wife and kids, man. Can you allow me an opportunity to talk? Because the only way you can really get a phone call is every seven days. And it's through your lawyer. So your lawyer, because you can really get a phone call is every seven days and it's through your lawyer. So your lawyer because you can't do a three-way in the feds. That's one thing you can't do you know I mean you do a three-way your phone purposes is done you know. So of course she gives me a phone call I call
Starting point is 00:44:57 my wife I'm talking to her you know and she's telling me about all these things that she's going through and they what she experiencing man let, let me tell you something, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy brother hunt. You understand me as a man as a father, you know, as a husband, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. That's everything I love man. And after that phone call, he said, Mr. Hicks, he said, Listen, the only other way you're going to be able to, you know, talk to your family on a regular basis is to go down to general population. I said, I don't care where you put me, man. You can put me wherever my home.
Starting point is 00:45:32 So they put me down in general population. I was down there with eight guys who I had arrested or I was over when they came through the county jail, man. And, you know, and soon as I got to the unit, there's from what I found out later, there's 122 inmates, there's an upper tier and a lower tier. There's one officer in the unit. So as soon as I walked through the door, it's this one black dude who saw my picture parade over the newscast, man, that's that
Starting point is 00:45:58 effing cop. So one of the cats that knew me from the streets, you know, he lived in tater town, we called him blind because he had those thick glasses, but his name was Maurice. You know, so of course he was like, man, you know who that is? Man, that's Big Hicks. He come from where we come from. He gonna thump you trippin man. So he saw my picture parade over the newscast. He doesn't formulate an opinion about me, you know, so I get ready to go in there and put my bad roll down. As I'm putting my bad roll down,
Starting point is 00:46:28 I turn around and there he is. So all these inmates gathered around the door. That's what they do. You know, when you get ready to fight, they all gathered around, you know, to block the office from seeing whatever's going on. I told him, I said, dude, you got a problem with me? I said, come on in here, we can handle this like men.
Starting point is 00:46:44 He actually tried to run in and tried to grab me, brother Hunt. And I hit him with so many lefts and rights, man, and when he hit that floor, I tried to kill him, brother Hunt. I mean, I tried to put my fist through his brains, man, blood gushing from his face like a faucet, you know? And the dude was like, yo, Big Homie. They gave me the name Big Homie. Big Homie, come on, man, you gonna kill kill it I was trying to kill it you know and the fans they give
Starting point is 00:47:08 you sardines so that lid that comes on the side ink can I took that lead and put it in my reward green jumper I put that lead in my pocket and when the brother was sitting at the same dude at the table man I was getting ready to whip his stroke man I'll get ready to cut his throat, brother, um, hunt. And one of the dudes, the Robert Harris, he said, man, he said, come on. He called me Sarge. That's the nickname they gave me when I got on with the sheriff's department. He'd say, Sarge, come on, man, don't do this, man. Man, I wanted to, and when the dude realized what was getting ready to happen, he actually went to the officer and, uh, they moved him off the floor.
Starting point is 00:47:46 I don't know where they took him, but they had to get him out of there where I was because I wanted to finish him, man, to let him know who the freak you think you playing with, man. Don't play with me because I'm not the one. When you looking at me, brother Hunt, you looking at my dad, man. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:00 You know? You know. You looking? My father not identical, you know? my mom will tell you to this day, my wife will tell you to this day, you know, my mom, she said, anytime she get mad at me, she said, okay, Raymond, Raymond Lamar Hicks, she referred to me as my dad, I told him I'm not like my father, don't want to be like him, you know? It won't be like him. But one thing is for sure, you know, you ain't even to pump me.
Starting point is 00:48:31 I'm gonna tell you right now. I had to let all of them know, but you know, don't try me. You better try somebody else. You know what I mean? Because I'm not finna lay down. And I just questioned God, man. I said, Lord, why me? And God said, why not you? And do you not know, my brother, the Lord spoke to me and says, when all revenues has been exhausted, that's when I begin to manifest myself. And do you not know that God changed my life, brother Hunt? I mean, I walked around saying, chapel, Iglesia, getting brothers up in the morning and the afternoon and night to come into the chapel man just to pray you know and as a matter of fact I won a life-saving award brother hunt while I was an inmate and I was honored by the awarding of the institution and I got the documents to show it to you. Always
Starting point is 00:49:19 gonna be Raymond Hicks right always setting the standard always being the example you know all the things that I appreciate about you. And you finally, 15 and a half months, 16 and a half months later, finally got your day in court, right? And the amazing part of this for everybody that's listening or watching is this. Raymond knew he was innocent, right?
Starting point is 00:49:41 You just heard him say he was manifesting it. He got in front of a jury of his peers and it took not even 30 minutes for them to come back and say Raymond is innocent, right? How did that moment of validation feel for you? Like all the emotion, right? Like this hour we spent together, I see the emotion. I still see the pain. What was that moment like when you heard 12 people say, not that they believe you, that's understood, but they believe in you?
Starting point is 00:50:16 What was that like for Raymond? What was that moment like when that happened? Like you're sitting there, you knew for all of these months that you did nothing wrong, but to get validated, how'd you feel? I felt vindicated, and going back to that day, September 26th of 01, my family had come to court and my wife even had a panic attack.
Starting point is 00:50:39 I didn't even notice until she told me after I came home, she went in the bathroom before she got on the stand to testify and had a panic attack in the bathroom. But I remember on September 26th of 01 where they had us walking down this long corridor and they had chose 11 whites, one black, and one black alternate, all business people. And brother, let me tell you something brother Hunt, I had a chill that came over my body, man, that I can even describe to you. It felt like I was in Alaska with no clothes on. You know, it was like a chill that I couldn't
Starting point is 00:51:13 stop it, you know. But I remember walking down this long quarter, man. And that the shocker was literally like cutting into my ankles. You know, I don't know if I felt like somebody had a razor blade cut into my ankles, you know? I don't know if I felt like somebody had a razor blade cutting at my ankles every time you take a step, man, you know? And that's why you see a lot of these inmates, they take the pants leg and they try and put like a sock or something over the pants just to keep, but that still doesn't do any good because when you start walking, it start rubbing, you know? and I tell you, man,
Starting point is 00:51:45 when I got back in that courtroom and saw the jurors that they had chose, you know, the DA, I'm saying to myself, this is crazy. You know, they offered me 16 and a half months. I was incarcerated for 11 and a half months. They say you'll go home in three months. I told them the devil's a liar. I'm going to trust God and know that God don't deliver me. I refused to accept time served. I'm not gonna go in there and admit to something I didn't do. So they had to get rid of the court appointed attorneys. They were trying to force me to take time my brother. I found out you know that the DA give them a bonus. So when some of these brothers and sisters take a plea, they get the DA give them a bonus
Starting point is 00:52:25 just for you taking the plea. You know, I'm saying to myself, what is wrong with this system, man? You know what I mean? How do you get a plea? How many of you get a bonus for someone taking a plea? The person could be innocent like myself.
Starting point is 00:52:37 So of course, you know, I'm so grateful to God, man. You know, those guys, they got off my case. Finally, my wife went through her thrift savings. He was a federal prosecutor. His name was Michael Bloom. And Mr. Bloom never lost the case in 15 years. You know, he told my wife and my mom, he said, your husband is not a drug dealer, your son is not a drug dealer. He said, I know one when I see one. And I was so happy when he came to see me and when he represented me in court. And
Starting point is 00:53:04 do you not know that the chief judge, Judge Wrecker, this man had a mustache that were rolled up at the end and they said he would give you a million years if he found out that you was guilty, right? And he asked him, he says, what are drugs? No drugs. Where the money? No money. He says, so why this man here? So they lied and said I was giving confidential law enforcement information. So my attorney subpoenaed the communication operator, Katherine Moonass, who worked in
Starting point is 00:53:33 the capacity for 25 years. She came and she testified, Mr. Hicks has not read this information. How you determine who run it is through your social security number. And there's a sign in sheet and there's a certificate of completion from FDLE. I have never taken that course. Then they lied and said I was on audio tape. And when they played the tape for the jury and the judge, they found out that it wasn't my voice on the tape, but in fact, it was the same deputy who arrested me.
Starting point is 00:54:03 So the judge became infuriated. You would have thought that the gal was shouted all over the floor because he called for sidebar. You know he said sidebar. You can hear the static in the background. He said for impeachment purposes everything y'all said to bring this man in here you better come back in here with the same information. Why is this man here? And they lied you know and you and you know, what's amazing to me, brother Hunt, is they knew that they didn't have no drugs, they knew they didn't have no money. It was all fabricated, my brother.
Starting point is 00:54:32 And then they tried to get an informant, right, who was arrested by the Brown Sheriff Office on January the left of 2000, just a few months prior to me being arrested on June 15th of 2000. He chased the man down the street, Mr. Eddie Frazier, because Mr. Frazier went there to collect his $75 for dumping his trash. He come out the side of his house with a gun, chased the man down
Starting point is 00:54:55 the street. A neighbor called 911, they arrested this man for aggravated assault with a firearm. So BSO give this man $15,000, they give him $20,000, they debrief him, they come in there and lie on me and the other people that I was locked up with. So he said that the 350 kilograms of cocaine was in a duffer bag. My brother, I got the paperwork, I got the document and I can send it to you brother Hunt,
Starting point is 00:55:23 where you can look at it yourself. He said there was a duffer bag that had 350 kilograms of cocaine and 750 million dollars. The Broward-Sheriff Office investigators should have known that you can't get 350 kilograms of cocaine and 750 million dollars in a duffer bag. So when they played the fake for the jury, the judge, it was a vacuum cleaner. And then this freaking moron, he lied and said that on December 24th, I saw him and his wife at a red light. And I pointed my finger at them that I was going to shoot the two of them. So my attorney subpoenaed his wife, Shirley Pratt, she came and she testified. So my attorney said, Miss Pratt, before your testimony, have you ever seen my client sitting next to me? She said, no,
Starting point is 00:56:10 I've never seen this man before. He said, please take a good look at him because your husband just proffered to the courts that on December 24th of 1999, my client saw the two of you at a red light. He motioned with his finger that he was going to shoot you. She said, my husband is telling a lie. She said, my husband and I was not even together on December 24th of 1999. Wow. So the case represented to the jury. So they actually came in and scored all of us out and they took us back to the holding cell, gave us a bag lunch that contained like a banana, an orange juice, and a bologna sandwich, you know, and not even just a few minutes later,
Starting point is 00:56:52 the marshals came and said the jury has reached the verdict. Yeah. And man, let me tell you something, man. I mean, before their deliberation, I took the stand and I testified on my own defense. I told them, I said, listen, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I ain't never been in trouble my entire life. This is my department coming after me because I spoke out against the wrongdoing of these people doing things that was morally wrong,
Starting point is 00:57:17 totally unethical. This is their way of trying to silence me. I said, I was a highly decorated officer. I said, but each and every last one of you guys that's sitting there, you're listening to the testimony of each and every last one of us. I said, you guys watch the news and you read the newspaper and you formulate an opinion about us, not even knowing the logistics of everything that transpired within the case. You know, and I said, I hope and pray that you guys find it in your heart, you know, and to see what's been done to us, you know, because it's not right.
Starting point is 00:57:49 And of course, they took us back, they gave us a bag lunch, and then the marshals came and said, Hey, the jury has reached the verdict. And I came back in, and my kids, my wife was there. And I think my own know if my mom was with her, but they had come to court and other people from the sheriff's office You know that support me and that's another thing the people who came to support me the broader sheriff office internal affairs division Was harassing these people's man, you know And I must mention to you when they played the audio tape in court brother hunt
Starting point is 00:58:20 It was the same deputy who arrested me at my home Yeah It was the same deputy who arrested me at my home. Yeah. Yeah. And I sent you guys a tape so you can hear it for yourself. You know, I'm saying to myself, this is, but in a way the jury deliberated and they came back with it. They said, the judge say has the jury reached a verdict?
Starting point is 00:58:38 So the foreman stood up and he said, yes, your honor. We, the jury has reached a verdict. And he says, as the race relates to Raymond Lamar Hicks, we find the defendant not guilty. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Vindicated, validated, all the emotions, right? And in that moment, again, your wife, right?
Starting point is 00:59:05 Like the love that your wife had, because again, getting the attorney that could get your voice heard, right? Yes, yes. The judge that did the right thing that was listening to the lack of evidence, right? Yeah. And not just taking it. And Raymond Hicks got to be Raymond of evidence, right? And not just taking it.
Starting point is 00:59:26 And Raymond Hicks got to be Raymond Hicks, right? Which we love, which we honor, and what we're so thankful for. And that could have been the story, right? That could have been the story, but that's also not Raymond Hicks, right? That is not Raymond Hicks. That's not the way that Raymond Hicks handles business.
Starting point is 00:59:47 That's not the way Raymond Hicks is gonna conduct himself. What has Raymond Hicks done since then? Like we've got the book. What's Raymond Hicks doing now? What are the things that you're doing to make sure that one, this doesn't happen to others, but also continuing that vindication that you so rightly deserve. Well, you know, after being exonerated, Brother Hunt, I must mention to you, and I make it brief,
Starting point is 01:00:13 the Briar Sheriff's Office, they stormed my home a second time at gunpoint. Another six and some cops on January 6th of 04 said I was shooting at someone in my backyard. Of course I take that case to trial before the judge and there was a white guy who showed up in my yard, my wife showed him the documents and within seconds they dissipated. They were all gone so they sent me a letter in the mail saying that I discharge a firearm and when I take the case to trial the judge said, Judge Steven DeLuca in Deal Field, he said, so we're the victim. There's no victim.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Did you do a ballistic test? No. Where the bullet casing? There are none. He said, so why would you bring a former deputy in my courtroom, one of your own, and you said that he committed these heinous crimes, you have nothing.
Starting point is 01:01:01 So I was tried by the court, sir, and I was acquitted by the judge. So what I did, I begin to fast and pray, you know, as I always do now, building that intimate relationship with the Lord. And of course, I went back into the community, I got a job working in boot camp, elite military academy. And I helped 25 kids accomplish in high school to prom and GED. And with the help of my wife and my daughter, I helped my mother at the age of 55 get her high school diploma. And my brother at the age of 32, get his GED, which he dropped out of school in 11th grade.
Starting point is 01:01:38 But I can tell you he'd been working for the county now for 26 years, you know. And so I win this prestigious award in 2004 the African American Achievers Award and it's given to the person who actually go within their community to make a difference and it's actually given to you from a philanthropist Mr. Jim Moran from the Southeast Toyota distributor and when I won they was given a thousand dollars to each honoree now it's up to thirty000 to each honoree. Now it's up to $30,000 each honoree. That's what that person should receive to give to a business or organization of their choice, you know. So I won this prestigious award. And I
Starting point is 01:02:17 must mention to you is that they came again, Brother Hunt, but they sent me death threats, man. They sent me death threats that I'd be lying in my room in a pile of blood they left it on my answer machine i called 911 a communication dispatcher unit to my home rick wassett i said rick listen to this here man they said ray be careful you know how these people's play i say the only thing i need you to do is a 98a alpha which is a written report and of course um, brother Hunt, they stormed the home a third time, but they was looking to kill me.
Starting point is 01:02:49 But my daughter was there, she was 18 years of age, and my four year old son was there. So again, they handcuffed me, shackled me, man, take me down to booking, and I'm still to ask a question, but because when they came to the house, I'm like, what is this here for? We got a warrant for your arrest. I said, for what?
Starting point is 01:03:06 We can't discuss it. I said, here you guys go again with this. You can't discuss it. But you're telling me you got a warrant for my arrest. And there was a black gentleman named Robert Crumb who got into an argument with the white sergeant because I couldn't get my arms behind me. I'm 290 pounds right now, six foot one and almost six two. I couldn't get my arms behind me. I'm 290 pounds right now, six foot one and almost six two. I couldn't get my arms behind me, you know, and he was
Starting point is 01:03:28 started telling him put the epic cups on him. Like I told you to said the two of them engaged in a verbal confrontation that literally almost led to a physical altercation man. And I said I managed to get my arms behind me. You know, it's a way you can't get your arms behind you man. So of course I get downtown. And one of the guys who I helped get on with the sheriff's department in detention, his name was Richard Lee. So I said, Lee, he was working booking. So he said, man, if it's Hicks and violent, man, I could calm him down, you know, because that's he called me Big D. I call him little D. And of course, he said, what's strange about this on a PC, there's no victim. But they charge you with child abuse. I said, child abuse?
Starting point is 01:04:09 I'm like, how child? I just won the highest award in the community. I ain't never touched my own kids. So the prosecutor did a thorough investigation. She threw the case out, no prosecution. So to answer your question, Brother Hunt, all of this stuff that I've gone through, my brother, it built more of a relationship with Christ. You know, I built an intimate relationship with the Lord. I pray every day, all day, every day.
Starting point is 01:04:36 I constantly watch Deion Sanders. My wife never tell you this is stuff that they bought for me because I just love the direction that he's taking these young men and how he's inspiring each and every last one of them not only to be football players but to be you know productive citizen out in society to be fathers you know husbands or whatever the case may you know good citizens man you know and one day I'm gonna get a chance to meet that brother and I'm gonna share some things with him you know because his upbringing is almost similar to mine you know what I mean and um but in a way you know it inspired me I went back to college I graduated college with a 3.97 GPA with my bachelor's degree in criminal justice and forensic science I went and got my doctorate degree in theology. And on top of that, I actually have a foundation called the Raymond L. Hicks LLC Foundation,
Starting point is 01:05:29 where I give back to the underprivileged kids. So my wife and I, me and my family, for the last, what, 15, about 20 years now, we have a back-to-school extravaganza. I sent you some of the pictures through Tyler to show you the different things that we submit cookout You know and a lot of the money it comes from out of our own pocket You know, I don't have a lot of money brother of you know
Starting point is 01:05:52 I basically I get a little bit of something that's donated, you know from other people But the majority of the money that it comes out of my hard work my hard-earned Money that I work for as a security officer, you know, but one thing is for sure, you know, I want to just make a difference. I want to set the tone in the precedent to let these young brothers and sisters know that I'm that same kid that went to bed with a ketchup sandwich, a mayonnaise sandwich. My mother would send me to the corner store and tell me, hey, tell Friendly to give you a dollar worth of bologna and a loaf of bread. I see him on Friday. You know, Mr. Friendly's store was just tore down just recently, you know, and
Starting point is 01:06:29 it's because there's 72 murders since 1972 inside the store. You know, so the area, man, it's a really nasty area, but there's a lot of great people that come out of there. So I go back to that same neighborhood to let them know that if I made it, you can make it. Only thing you need to do is take pride. Look in the mirror, identify yourself and know where you're going in life. But do it all, my brother. I still love law enforcement. To this day, they took something from me that I love. I didn't like my job, I love my job. And you can talk to so many different people that have seen
Starting point is 01:07:06 me speak about it and have responded and say, man, I changed my life because of Defany Hicks. I'm talking about white, Hispanics, and blacks. And it's a shame, it's a disgrace what they've done to me, my brother. And would you believe, my story went viral when I interviewed with Ms. Jane Turner. She was former FBI, Mr. Mike Zumer, former FBI, and Mr. Bobby Lattagard. And when I interviewed, and Mr. Jeremiah Johnson. And when I interviewed with them, it was through Mr. Tom Devine, who actually created the Woosterblower Act back in 1978.
Starting point is 01:07:40 So he said he wanted me to talk to them and tell them my story. So when she interviewed me, it was titled. They told me that my own business and she said, Mr. Hicks, let me just tell you this. I read your book. I looked over all the documents that you said. You're not a criminal.
Starting point is 01:07:56 You're a hero. She said if you was moving that type of weight and money, you wouldn't have been arrested by your department. The Broward Sheriff's Office. You'd have been arrested by your department, the Broward-Sheriff office. You'd have been arrested by DEA, FBI, ATF, and the Marshals. Should say anyone that worked in law enforcement knows that to be a fact. And just recently, I was on the news, my brother.
Starting point is 01:08:17 I sent the clip to you guys, where now after 30 years, because my wife and I went and spoke to the new prosecutor, Mr. Pryor, you know, basically saying, hey, you know, this is what happened to me, you know, and my family. And of course, they never gave me a chance to even speak to them. The media told me that they were not interested in my story, you know, and thank God, man, I was able to address the situation.
Starting point is 01:08:42 And now you see Mr. Pierre from CNN, you see Dr. Richie from Indisputable, and some of these other huge platforms, man, speaking about the fact that Broward-Sheriff all was a manufacturer of their own crack and give it to us to be sold in the street, you know? But to this day, I still love law enforcement, Brother Hunt, and I must put that out there.
Starting point is 01:09:02 And I'm hoping and praying that one day I can become an advocate for the men and women in uniform. The reason why I say that, because a lot of people don't know you put your lives on the line each and every day, every minute, every second, every hour of the day. Some of these people making 50, $60,000 a year, and they can't even afford to take care of their families.
Starting point is 01:09:21 A lot of families are being broken apart because the husband and the wife are working so many hours doing overtime and not spending quality time with the family. You wind up that there's infidelity and everything else that goes on. So the fact of the matter is that I hope and pray, man, that God allow me an opportunity to be able to speak to these brothers and sisters and administrators
Starting point is 01:09:42 to say, hey, listen, we need to do something about this. I think it should be mandated that every man or woman or first responder should make no less than $100,000 a year to be able to support them and their family, man. Amen. I believe that a million percent as well. You know, one of my first cousins, who's also like a brother to me,
Starting point is 01:10:01 I'm gonna go ahead and shout out his name, detective, just got rewarded. Detective Torrance Jackson here in Pickens County, South Carolina. So shout out to him. Oh, congratulations. Absolutely. Brother Hicks, man, for anyone that wants to follow you,
Starting point is 01:10:16 what's the best place to follow you? And then I'm gonna have a couple of follow-ups too. Okay, well, I'm actually on Instagram. You know, I'm still standing under Raymond Hicks. I'm on Facebook under Raymond Hicks. And of course, I'm on Twitter, but I never really use Twitter, you know, and of course, you know, my email address is Raymond Hicks 2305 at gmail.com.
Starting point is 01:10:42 I give you guys my phone number, because one of the things that I made a promise to God and brother hunt you won't believe how many lives I've helped save man guys who have actually been in law enforcement that was contemplated taking their own lives until they saw my video and and one of the promises that I've made to God is that if someone reaches out to me I will reach out to them so my email email address is RaymondHicks2305 at gmail.com. My personal phone number is 954-347-3361. You know and of course I am the author of the book title I'm Still Standing by Raymond Hicks. I do have a GoFundMe where I'm able to you know help a lot of the kids through my foundation. So the money that I generate,
Starting point is 01:11:27 I'm actually ready to put a sizzle together and a trailer with some other people like Matthew Cox. If you see, my YouTube has hit 6.8 million, 1.5 million. There's another video he just put out on the 27th of November and it's almost up to 600,000 viewers right now as we speak. So as I said to him, I say the same thing to you brother Hunt. You know God will continue to elevate you my brother and you will receive the extraordinary blessings from the Lord because of the thing that you're doing. I watched a lot of your podcasts and the people's action that you brought on but I watched a lot of your podcasts and the people that actually that you brought on.
Starting point is 01:12:06 But I pray and thank God to continue to elevate you so that your voice and your platform can reach people around the globe, my brother. And I just want to thank you for this opportunity. Please give my love to Miss Chris, until I said thank you so much for all the hard work that she's doing to facilitate all the hard work that she's doing, you know, to facilitate and do the thing that she's doing,
Starting point is 01:12:28 you know, for Mick Unplugged. And I just pray that God continue to bless you and your platform, man, you know? Man, I appreciate that more than you know. Like I told you offline and off the air, just honored to be here. You were someone, when I lived in South Florida, got to hear your story and
Starting point is 01:12:46 Someone I didn't know you personally, but I definitely felt you man And I just want you to know that you are inspirational You touch people that you don't even realize that you touch and so just honored to spend this time with you today For everybody that's listening that's watching. I'm gonna make sure in the show notes We have links to the GoFundMe page. I wanna put this on your heart. And Raymond's not gonna say it, I'm gonna say it for him. The amount doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:13:14 We can get people to just support the things that he's doing in the community. The funds that you present, the funds that you share are going to change and save lives. And that's one promise that I'll make to you. Mick unplugged, we'll be sending over some funds for this. I challenge my friends that I know are listening to definitely go to the GoFundMe.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Those that are listening that I don't know, if you wanna do anything for me personally, go to the GoFundMe page that's in the show notes in the description and please just give whatever your heart tells you to give. Brother Hicks, man, I love you, man. This won't be the last time that we do this. I'm gonna make sure that I do my part to support.
Starting point is 01:14:05 We're gonna reach out to DI, Coach Prime. We're gonna get you guys to meet. We're gonna make all this stuff happen, man. Like I'm not saying me personally, but the atmosphere, the universe is gonna make this happen. Brother Hicks, I love you, man. I love you too, Brother Hunt. And just know, just for the listeners that's out there,
Starting point is 01:14:23 for the example, there was a Caucasian gentleman reached out to me and he was a federal correction officer. And of course he went through something similar and he was contemplating some really bad things that I won't be able to share. And he happened to stumble across my video and he called me and he was in North Carolina and I called him back. And of course when I called him, you know, it was such a very touching moment. You know, he says, I said, sir, you know, this is Raymond Hicks. You called and left a message for me. He said, D Raymond Hicks. I said, yes, sir, this is me. And he broke down, you know, and he said, man, I just I just need to be next to you. And I said, Okay, you know, he said, but I don't have any finances, I don't have any funds.
Starting point is 01:15:12 But let me just tell you this. And I told my wife, I said, I'm bringing that brother here. And he came with his wife, because he lost everything. His wife and kids walked away from him lost his home, his finances, his job. He was really contemplating some really, you know, bad things. And I told him, I said, don't worry about it. I'm gonna help you get here. And I put him up in a hotel in Sawgrass. And some of the money that I collected from GoFundMe, I actually put them up in the hotel. And I went to the bank. And I took out some funds that I won't tell you how much but I took out some funds and I gave it to him and his wife
Starting point is 01:15:50 and he came to one of my events the back-to-school extravaganza and if you can see the smile on his face him and his wife face you know and from there I took him out to dinner and he said you know you don't look like what you've been through I said all praises to be to my lord and savior Jesus Christ and I said there was a reason why you and I made contact with each other and from that day to this day you know I still love him like he was a brother you know and that's the thing that's why I'm saying to you brother Hunt you you continue to let your light shine my brother You continue to use your platform and I just pray
Starting point is 01:16:26 that God continue to elevate you to that next level and I know that he will. And I said the same thing to Matthew Cox and I say the same thing to you. Matthew Cox never had over a hundred thousand viewers prior to him interviewing me. And let me just say this to you. Matthew Cost went from 100,000 viewers to now at 6.8 million, 1.5 million, almost another million. And I say the same thing to you, my brother. So the other rhythm and everything else that's going to come in, it's going to elevate you to that next level
Starting point is 01:16:58 so that you can interview people like myself and others, my brother. So I just want to tell you, man, I love you. I love you. I love you from the bottom of my heart, you know, and there's nothing that you can do about it, man. I just truly thank God for this opportunity, man. Thank you so much, my brother. It means the world to me. You mean more and I love you more than words can ever share. Brother, just thank you so much. Thank you. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you, man. All the viewers and listeners, remember your because is your superpower. Go unleash it.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Thank you for tuning in to Mick Unplugged. Keep pushing your limits, embracing your purpose, and chasing greatness. Until next time, stay unstoppable.

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