Mick Unplugged - Salisha Thomas: Broadway's New Queen on Dreams, Determination, and Stage Success

Episode Date: March 31, 2025

Welcome to another electrifying episode of Mick Unplugged, where the dynamic host Mick Hunt takes a front-row seat to the vibrant world of Broadway with the incredible Salisha Thomas! Get ready to dive deep into Salisha's transformative journey from California to the Great White Way, embracing failures, seizing unbelievable opportunities, and blooming into the spectacular star she is today. With laughter, heartwarming revelations, and poignant wisdom, this episode is sure to captivate and inspire. Tune in as we uncover Salisha's personal tales of ambition, resilience, and the beautiful harmony of life and art, all wrapped in an irresistible package that's bound to go viral. Press play, and let the magic begin! Takeaways: Embracing Failure: Salisha's journey to Broadway was filled with trials, but her openness to failure fueled her success, highlighting the importance of embracing imperfections. Listening to the Heart: From spontaneous moves across the country to unexpected career twists, Salisha's story illustrates the power of following your intuition and seizing serendipity. The Value of Community and Support: Whether through the reassurance of a stranger or the camaraderie of fellow performers, Salisha underscores the impact of community in overcoming life's hurdles. Sound Bytes: "All it takes is one major opportunity to come your way, and bam, everything's different." "If you're going to show up, show all the way up." "Life is too short to not have fun. What's the point of manifesting all this stuff or praying for it if when it comes, I'm stressed out?" Quote by Mick (Host): “If you don't give yourself permission to fail, you're just settling for a life of regrets.”   Connect & Discover with Salisha: Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/thesalishashow/?hl=en Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@itsmesalish Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/salishat/ Podcast:  https://www.thesalishashow.com/podcast Book:  Why Be a 9 When You Can Be a 10: A Cheat Code For Winning At Life   FOLLOW MICK ON: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mick-unplugged/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mickunplugged/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mickunplugged/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mickunplugged  Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mickhunt/ Website: https://www.mickhuntofficial.com    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

But while I was playing Diana Ross in Trevor in Chicago, I get a text from my agent saying, the role that you did on tour has opened up on Broadway. Do you want it? I'm like, are you kidding me? I've been waiting for this moment my whole life. Welcome to Mick Unplugged, the number one podcast for self-improvement, leadership, and relentless growth. No fluff, no filters, just heart-hitting truths, unstoppable strategies, and the mindset shifts that separate the best from the rest. Ready to break limits?

Let's go! Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Mick Unplugged and I am here in New York Times Square, couldn't do this show without having the talented, the best, the creme de la creme when we're talking about Broadway. We're talking about My Good Friend, the one and only, by Selesha Thomas. Selesha, how you doing, girl? I'm so happy to be here. Thank you so much for having me.

I am happy, too. But why are you over there giggling, though? What's so funny? Because I don't ever hear anybody hype me up like that. That's my favorite thing to do about. Well, I gotta hype up the queen. Come on now. I can't have the queen in the building and just say,

ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the stage, the one and only, Selesha Thomas. I couldn't do that. OK, all right. You know what? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for having me.

And I forgot to say, California's finest, you know? Fresno is in the building. So my wife is from California, Bay Area. Right on. I love the Bay Area. It's so beautiful. It's a different vibe. I lived in Southern California for a little while,

and that was nice. But I like the Bay Area. Yeah? When it comes to California. New York is really. New York is it. So what got you here? Let's just go there.

What got Selesha from Cali to New York? I mean, we go like old school, like East Coast, West Coast rival. Like you flipped. I did. I was in college at Cal State Fullerton, barely graduated, but I did it. And I did it early.

I was working as a vocalist and a princess at Disneyland. And I did it. And I did it early. I was working as a vocalist and a princess at Disneyland. And I loved it. I got dropped down to one day a week. And I'm like, how you supposed to live on one day a week, y'all? And there were some other things going on. I got out of a bad relationship. And I came out to New York City to just visit

for just 30 days. I didn't tell anybody except my one friend who lives here now. I gave all my shifts to her. And it was a secret. But when I got here, Mick, I just fell in love. I fell in love with it. I'm like, this doesn't make sense.

I can't just upend my life. And I met this, this is gonna sound so crazy. I met this homeless man while I was here in New York two weeks in and he sat down next to me waiting for the A train and he said, I don't know who you are but you need to move here and you need to do it now. And I had goosebumps all over my body,

his eyes were twinkling like I'm not making this up. Wow. And I get on the train, he didn't, the door shut, and he mouths the words, good luck. Okay. I put my notice in that day to Disney. Within two weeks, I had gotten rid of everything in California and finished my last days at Disneyland

and was back in New York and the week I got here, I landed the first national tour of Beautiful, the Carol K. musical. Look at you. So we're gonna back up now. So you met this beautiful homeless man. Is this the love story? You cleaned him up, shaved him.

This is now hubby? No? No. Okay, is now hubby? No? No. Okay, all right hubby, sorry. I had to make sure. At least I'd ask. I had to do my due diligence. Oh my gosh, can you imagine if I married a homeless man?

That would have been the love story of all love stories right there. No, I never saw him again. Nope, I never saw him again. I got here and I, I mean, there was a little bit of time before we started rehearsals, but I toured for two years. While I was on tour, I took a week off, ran for a pageant, became Miss California, kept touring.

And you know, that was really, that's when I got to visit Greenville. Yeah. I got to visit, like, the country, got to see. I was in my early 20s and just very, like, what's the word, like, I didn't own any furniture. I got rid of everything. I just was living in my suitcases

and kind of flying by the seat of my pants and prepared to fail, okay, if I failed, but giving myself the opportunity to fly just in case if it did wanna work out. I never wanted to think what if, like what if I listened to my heart? What if I took the chance? I just, it's okay if you fail, just try. Yeah, so we're gonna back up again.

Miss California. You just casually, you know, and I was doing this and then I went Miss California and then I was, let's back up because I know how humble you are, but we're going to back up and let's talk about Miss California for those that don't know. It was the Miss World Organization, which in America, it's not bad. Well, at the time, it wasn't that big of a deal. It was new to us. In the world, it's recognized, but in the country, usually our country just sends a model.

And that was one of the first two years that they held a pageant here in the States. And so the way they kind of did it was different than the systems usually run and I just went as a delegate, a national delegate and out of all the girls there I had the highest score for the West Coast for the California so I ended up with the title of Miss California and they were okay with me being on tour and each state that I went to I was able to like volunteer and wear my crown and

meet with my sister crown title holders and it was really fun. I've run in a lot of pageants and I've lost a lot of pageants. I've been miscongeniality seven, eight times. And they're fun for me. I haven't done it in a very long time, but I made so many friends, I got scholarship money. And when I was backstage, there was a lot of, your earrings broke, take mine. There was a lot of that. And also pageants, I know they get so much flack, but I didn't even know I could sing

before I did my first pageant. I needed a talent. And one of the directors for the first pageants that I ever ran in for Miss Fresno, she became my mentor and now she's my best friend. But at the time she was like, what's your talent? And I was like, I was just gonna memorize a monologue. She goes, in pageant world,'s code four you don't have a

talent. I'm like, uh, she's like, can you sing? I'm like, I do at church. And so I took voice lessons for the first time and I mean literally now I'm on Broadway. So I'm so grateful for that, that, kinda like that realization that I didn't even know that was there. Yeah, so now you're like, Etta James, Lena Horne, Billie Holiday, dropping in all the jazz, right?

Yeah, sure, I love to sing jazz, I love a good show tune as well. And I've recently discovered that I like rock. That's a very new thing. Okay. Give me your rock song. What's Tina's song? When I was a little girl I had a rag doll. What's that song called? Like when she goes up higher. I wouldn't yell it into the mic right here, but it just hits in this place where I'm like, it feels good and it's not something I can do

when I'm casually watching. Like I have to use my whole body to sing it. Tina. Tina. We're talking Nutbush, what's love got to do with it? We can keep on going. She's the queen.

She is the queen. She is the queen. She is the queen. But, you know, as she's passed, the title is now to you. You're the queen. So, you know, again, all the humbleness in my good friend, Selesha, you highlighted, and then I was on Broadway. So let's talk about the Broadway story.

So how did Selesha from Fresno, California, all of a sudden is now the star on Broadway? Oh, well, it was a dream of mine since I was little, but it was one of those like, what are the chances? Like what are the chances? But there was my hometown hero, Audra McDonald, she's got the record for six Tonys

and she's from Fresno, California. Okay, so there was a precedent. Yes, I'm like, well it exists. Somebody from my hometown is doing the thing. She's currently in Gypsy on Broadway, killing it. And watching her, I'm like, it's possible. I see it and she's black like me. Yeah.

And so I felt like, okay, well again, I always like to give myself permission to fall flat on my face. Because if you don't give yourself permission, what you gonna do if you just are afraid? Live life of regrets, right? If you don't put yourself out there. Like my life is full of so many failures. I'm afraid. Live life of regrets, right? If you don't put yourself out there.

My life is full of so many failures. But when I get a yes, and when I get a win, it's good. But people don't see all the nos that I get. But when it came to Broadway, I toured for a year and nine months, and I loved it. I loved touring with the Carole King musical. And I put my notice in, not because I didn't like it anymore, but I've always just wanted to live in New York.

I came to New York and I got a show on the road. And I wanted to give it a chance, so I put my notice in not having anything lined up once again. And right after, I ended up getting a show called Trevor with the director who directed Beautiful. And while I was doing, I was playing Diana Ross and There's a great story there. But while I was playing Diana Ross in

Trevor in Chicago I get a text from my agent saying the role that you did on tour has opened up on Broadway. Do you want it? Are you kidding me? I've been waiting for this moment my whole life. I don't even have to audition for it. I just have to say yes. And I said yes. And after I finished that run, they gave me two days. I moved to the city on a Monday. I rehearsed Wednesday.

And I made my Broadway debut on a Thursday. Holy. Ladies and gentlemen, that is not easy. There's a lot of memorization that has to go on. Holy, ladies and gentlemen, that is not easy. There's a lot of memorization that has to go on. There's a lot of marks that you have to hit. And oh, by the way, you're not just talking, you have to sing and you're with people

that you probably haven't been around in forever. Oh no, I met the lead while we were doing the show. Like I see her on all these billboards and trash cans all over Times Square. And in the first scene that I was in, she came up, because in rehearsal, she wasn't there. It was her stand-in. And so on stage, she comes up to me, and I'm like,

oh, it's the girl from the billboards. Selesha, you have to say your line. Right. Right. No fangirl moment. I know. I wish I could have gotten to meet her before. Like, it was so cool to me.

Yeah, it was completely surreal. But to be fair, it was the same show as on The Road, but a completely different cast, a very different set. I thought our set on tour was incredible by Derek McClane, who's done so many things on Broadway and Academy Awards and Golden Globes. He's done so many things. It was a great Derek McClain, who's done so many things on Broadway and Academy Awards and Golden Globes. He's done so many things. It was a great set on the road,

but the Broadway version, it was bigger, higher, more things moved. It was an operation. Yeah. Yeah, and so there were definitely a little bit of some learning curves. For the first national tour, I set show so I knew I like to stand and when I like to stand Broadway had been open for

4 years at that point. They have their own choreography backstage and so even though I'm used to being in the wings on this scene they're like no you need to go change downstairs at this time so that was different, but it was all fine and good once I found that rhythm. Wow. Yeah. Wow.

So for those that don't know, walk us through a Broadway audition, right? Are you on one play like your entire life? Do you audition for other, like walk the casuals like me through being on Broadway and what that means from your perspective. There are so many different ways to approach the Broadway world.

I have friends who have been in Lion King for over a decade. Wow. They call that a government job. Okay. Okay. Okay? Okay. Okay? Where you get to go to work and you have a good feeling

it's gonna be there tomorrow. Right. You gonna get that check, you know exactly what to do, you can make your grocery list while you at work. It's like, you know. You don't learn anything new? No, no, you just go to work, you do your thing and then you go home to your,

if you've been in a show that long, you go home to your apartment and your family. That's one way of looking at it. Then I have friends who jump from show to show to show, some of them are broke, but they've got credits and a reputation, and they're shooting for that Tony. They wanna get the role of a lifetime. They wanna build that list of leading roles.

But because they're jumping from show to show, sometimes there's gaps in between the shows. Yeah. But they got- It's like that job hopper. And you gotta explain, so- Yeah. From April of 2021 to today,

you don't have nothing on there. Yeah. Why? Yeah, exactly. Okay. And you gotta explain, so from April of 2021 to today, you don't have nothing on there, why? Yeah, exactly. But you might know their name and their face, so that's a different approach. And then there's the chorus, where you can jump from chorus to chorus and always be in a show and stack up your credits.

But you might not be famous, but you're always working or you're always swinging. There's just different ways to approach it. And my feelings change all the time about it. At first, I just wanted to be on Broadway. And that first show that I got, Mick, it was a dream come true. Really?

It was better than I ever thought it could be. I was so happy. My cast was so welcoming and fun and loving and like people who I'd listened to on the CD for so long. I'm standing next to them on stage. Yeah. And just in awe of them. I never ever ever took that for granted. And the show that I did after that,

boy oh boy was it a very different experience. I got my butt kicked. I got my butt kicked. I did. Do tell, do tell, do tell. The Britney Spears musical. You see the face. I know I do. Okay, okay.

Okay, there was a lot happening. Okay. There was a lot happening on all angles in that show. Ultimately, I am so grateful for that show. I'd never taken a swinging position before, or like an understudy. Okay, so explain what a swinging position is, because some people are like,

what's Alicia talking about? Why are you swinging? A swing is like a super understudy, where you're covering almost everybody, well, in my case, almost everybody in the company. So sometimes a swing can cover three roles or four roles and a lot of times it's people in the ensemble. They had me covering 12 roles,

pretty much the entire ensemble and six of the leads. That's not normal. Okay, sounds tedious. It OK. Sounds tedious. It was. Sounds like your brain is on fire because it's like, wait, who am I today? Oh, no. Oh, damn, I messed up.

Yes. OK. There was a lot of that. Got it. And I ended up going on before I was expected to go on. So almost every new role that I went on for, I had not been rehearsed for. That is crazy.

Yeah. It's Broadway. Gotcha. You got me on stage. Feeling my way around. Everyone's hoping that I say the right line at the right place and then I sing my heart come on y'all this is that's a little crazy. Yeah.

Um I went on for they swung me on for a lot so we it was a short run we were only open for three months. We had 123 performances I was on for 68 of them. Again, not normal. I went on for one of the lead roles over 25 times. But the actual lead, it was basically Disney meets Britney Spears, all these Disney princesses with Britney Spears music and they're finding like, they're feminists,

like they realize they don't have to do the same stories that they that have been written for them. Yeah. And so Snow White and Cinderella are the two like lead leads. Cinderella is on stage the entire time. And I was not the first cover for it. I was like the second cover for it. So I was super duper not rehearsed and that one going on for that one without any rehearsal at the last moment it was very crazy. I get hot thinking about it man it was a crazy day.

So then what became your first lead? My first lead? Snow White. Playing Snow White in Once Upon a One More Time. Oh, wait. No, I went on first one of the stepsisters in Once Upon a One More Time. That was my first principal debut, I would say.

OK. How did that feel? Full house. Extended applause. Not just for me, for the show. It was such an electric night, I think it was like industry night. So our peers were in the audience and they were wild.

There you go. They were wild and I just remember feeling like I've always wanted to feel this or feel, or see what it was like, and this feels great. A lot of times when I'm in the spotlight, I get nervous, I get stage fright, and I'm stressed out. And so I'm not always able to enjoy the pressure until the very end. And I'm learning how to enjoy something that I've wanted for so long that has so high stakes

when it begins, not just right towards the end when I'm like, I think I made it. And the life that I'm building for myself, there seem to be more and more high pressure situations. And I just realized like, life is too short to not have fun. Like what's the point of manifesting all this stuff or praying for it if when it comes I'm stressed out. I don't want to be stressed out. At the end of this year I'm supposed to be the soloist at Radio City Music Hall. Let's go. Thank you.

Let's go. I'm currently singing backup for Hugh Jackman in his residency there. It's one weekend a month. It's like, ah, this is such a great gig. He's such a great guy too. And if my date to sing at Radio City, it's just this one moment in time, and it's a hard song, Never Enough from The Greatest Showman. Okay.

It is, I gotta like show up with my whole body with that song. And then also I have to relax because I can't sing it stressed out. It's such a hard song, I have to be relaxed. How, the thing that I've been working on and with my husband too is how can I perform at the highest level? How can I, if I have to wait for a very long time, for one moment in time, how can I perform at the highest level after waiting for so long

and to stay relaxed when those few minutes come? And I'm going to tell you something that a lot of people don't know and it's okay, you can air this whenever you want. Let's go. I am pregnant. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you.

I feel crazy. It's okay. I feel, I'm like, I can see myself in the monitor, I'm like, woo. Stop. Literally that's what I was looking at. Stop. I was like, oh those pants barely fit.

Stop it, stop it. Congrats though. Thank you. First? Yes. Even more congrats. Thank you. That little homeless man has come, you did good, bro.

I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking. That's so funny. But I brought it up because I'm supposed to be due on October 8th. I'm singing the solo October 3rd. Oh, on stage. On October 8th, I'm singing the solo, October 3rd. Oh, on stage. Water break.

During the note. Oh! During the note. Not during the note! Not during the note! Not during the note! That's close, right? That's, yeah.

In my last checkup, it said October 6th. I said, hey, what's that? She said, oh, don't look at that date. I was like, it's there on the screen. Every date kind of matters in that week. Yeah. Anyway, so again, the high pressure situations, but trying to stay relaxed, and in that case,

keeping a whole baby inside. You're going to do great. I promise inside. You're gonna do great. I promise. You're gonna do great. Do you think I can keep it inside? Yeah. Do you think I can keep my mouth shut if I'm in labor and not tell anybody?

Yeah. You think so? Yeah. The baby knows. The baby's gonna do its part. There's a star in there. It's a star. He knows or she knows the moment.

But this is mom's moment right here. Do you hear that? Yes. They know. I promise. Why do I believe you right now? You should. You should. You should.

The moment. The baby knows the moment. He's gonna do his or her part. I think it's a boy. He's gonna do his part. Mom's a star. Star in the making. Can we stay connected?

Absolutely. Absolutely. Cause I want to give you updates. For sure. For sure. For sure. I'll look at my calendar too. I might October 8th.

No, that's the due date. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. October 3rd, I probably can't be there. The two dates that we've talked about, I can't make either of those dates. I'm like, you travel a lot.

You all over. So wedding anniversary, September 29th. So you know, I don't know if I can't make either of those dates. I'm like, you travel a lot. You all over. So wedding anniversary, September 29th. So I don't know if what the plans are just yet. Congratulations. Yeah. How many years for you? It will be two. Oh my god.

Yeah. You're a newlywed. Yeah. How is it going? Amazing. Amazing. Congratulations. Thank you.

Big, big congratulations.. Congratulations. Thank you. Big, big congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Did you do a big wedding or small? It was smallish. It was like 100 of our best friends. Oh.

Yeah. Oh, that's the best. It was a party. It was a 10 minute ceremony and a four and a half hour party. Oh yes. All the singing and dancing you could imagine, Selesha. That sounds incredible. It was like 90s, 80s R&B, some late 90s, early 2000s,

hip hop, big party. That's the vibe right there. Big party. That's the vibe, that's the vibe. Absolutely. That's the vibe. Absolutely. So back to you though. You can't get off that's the vibe. Absolutely. That's the vibe. Absolutely. So back to you though.

You can't get off that easy. Listen up. Come on now, you tried to make it about me. I know you're a podcast host over there too. I saw what you tried to do. I'm like so, tell me about your... You've said, because I've counted, five times, you're not afraid to fail.

I think that is so important for everybody that's watching, that's listening. Why is that a big component, not just for you, but something everybody should embrace? I talk about it in my book a lot. It's called Why Be a Nine When You Can Be a Ten? And it's a fun book. It doesn't take itself too seriously.

And on the outside it can feel like, oh, reach for perfection, but that's not what it's about. It's about embracing all of your flaws and showing up in this world exactly as you are. Because there is nothing better than somebody who is okay with exactly who they are. That puts everybody at ease. Even if you're just a mess, if you own your mess.

But like it just, it just, there's something magical about those unicorns who just are self-actualized and show up unapologetically themselves. And I think part of that is embracing the parts of you that might not be pretty. The parts of you that might not be polished or completely put together. You know, sometimes I'm pretty awkward.

And I used to really be embarrassed about that. And now I just kind of embrace it. And I don't care. Like, that's just who I am. And when it comes to how that translates in my career, I put myself out there a lot, a lot. And sometimes I even will save the rejections that I get. Because I'm like, I can't believe, I can't believe I

tried that, like who has the audacity to do it? Like I will even shock myself because I realize all it takes is one yes. All it takes is one major opportunity to come your way and it's like bam, everything's different. Just like I dated a bajillion people. On the road I had a boyfriend in every major city in America, okay?

None of them were the ones. How many were homeless though? Is that a trend? No, okay, that's not my bad. I didn't know they were... If anybody, I was the homeless one because I was living out of suitcases. But all it takes is

to find that one person who is like, oh, you're weird. I'm weird too. Let's do this together. Forever. You just gotta this together, forever. You just gotta get it right once. But you have to be okay with hearing the no, seeing the no, getting the no's.

And when the stakes are high, those no's hurt extra. When you're like, that one would've changed my life. But when you keep putting yourself in those positions, you're in the arena. You're in the arena of greatness. You're in the neighborhood. Getting big nose, it hurts. But you're in the right neighborhood.

And it's just a matter of time. Keep showing up. I love it, I love it. And show all the way up too. That's my thing, if you're gonna show up, show all the way up. Anything you do half-hearted is never gonna make it. Can show all the way up too. Like that's my thing. If you're gonna show up, show all the way up. Like anything you do half-hearted is never gonna make it. Like that's why people that have side hustles and everybody knows I say this all the time.

At some point, either make your side hustle the main thing or quit side hustling. Ooh. Because you can't live in two worlds. Oh! That's right. Why am I convicted? Oh, did I touch something? Did I hit a nerve? I'm sorry.

I needed to hear that. You can't side hustle forever. You can't. And you're limiting what should be your main thing by trying to side hustle. Because if it's your side hustle and it brings you joy, what, there's a reason why that passion is in you. Then put that whole, as one of my uncles would say, put your whole ass in it then. Yes. What is your favorite thing that you love?

This, getting, you can't replace human bonding, right? Like my thing is I just love hearing people's stories. I love being able to let others listen to people's stories because everybody's going through something and you never know the word that Selesha just said or is about to say is a moment that somebody needed. And there's always, like every episode I do, I get a response from different people that's like, I needed that, thank you. And that's always, like every episode I do, I get a response from different people

that's like, I needed that, thank you. And that's my thing. Like so my thing with Make Unplugged is your because. That thing that's deeper than your why. To me, your why is superficial, right? Like I could, your why is about to be your child. Should be your why, but why? What's the because?

And so if I said, Selesha, what's your because right now? Like what's that thing that's like, this is my purpose, this is my motivation, this is my accountability when I don't need it, what's your because? Wow, are you asking me for real? For real, for real. You know, my priorities have changed quite a bit and I Recently went to a Tony Robbins conference and it was wild okay. Am I in a cult maybe

Did it change my life? Yes, and one of the exercises that we did in the arena there was thousands of us What like he turned off the lights, the kids had to leave and... Oh. Yeah. This is water, but... Right, okay? And there was an exercise of basically seeing your life as it would be if you let all your disempowering beliefs

take the front seat, continue to take the front seat. Empowering beliefs take the front seat continue to take the front seat. Mm-hmm and And we went deeper and deeper down that road and seeing What that could look like? Mm-hmm was very painful. Mm-hmm letting your doubts letting my doubts and The like the most disempowering things I could think that I realize weren't even true. What does your life look like if that is in the driver's seat? And so with my new priorities now being my family,

it's always been career. Career, career, career. Let's climb this ladder. And I think I will always be a career girl. But now I'm married and I love my husband. I love him. I love him. I didn't think I could love a person like I love my husband, Andrew.

Let's go, Andrew. He's so special in so many different ways and I've started to maneuver differently. And now we're gonna have a baby? Yeah. Everything just feels different. And I, there's a life that I've always wanted to live. And I've gotten to live it up to an extent in my own life.

But thinking about having my child grow up with that And I've gotten to live it up to an extent in my own life. But thinking about having my child grow up with that just being baseline, it's kind of freaking cool. Can I do that? You sure can. Can I create a life that I've always wanted and it's just like normal to the, like that would be my dream.

And a challenge for me, like can I do that? Yeah. I'm not sure if that answer is the because. It does. It does. And here's what's crazy cool. And I don't think most parents have thought of this, I'm glad you did. You can give your children the life that you wanted. And I think a lot of times we settle and we do it the opposite way. Well, I couldn't do this as a kid and neither can you, or I didn't have TV so you're not, we get in those because I didn't, I'm gonna make it tough,

I'm gonna raise you tough so that you appreciate. Well, you can also appreciate and have, I'm gonna make it tough, I'm gonna raise you tough so that you appreciate. Well, you can also appreciate and have, I'm not gonna say luxury, but you can have comfort and appreciate it all at the same time. Let's go. Right? Yeah. Right, it's okay.

And for me, it's very important that I don't raise assholes. I want them to be kind. What? I know, like, I feel like there's like a stereotype, like if you grow up with something, you're gonna be like this. I don't know what my kids will grow up as. I'm like, I'm not rolling in the dough,

but one day I wanna be, and when that happens, I want my kids to be humble and kind and generous. That's it. That's it. That is it. I hope I'm a good mom. You're gonna be a great mom, stop. I've never done it before.

Most people haven't. Most of us start that way, you know? Gotta start with one. Gotta start with one. Oh my gosh, I'm gonna throw up. No, please don't. Literally. Please don't.

Genitorial services. He had my back. Oh my gosh. So, Selesha, you talked about the book. What encouraged you to write the book? Ooh. And give us the title again. Why be a nine when you can be a 10? You know, I've always written. I have journals and journals and journals of writing. And I wrote a book in the pandemic that will never see the light of day.

And I wrote a book in the book that was like, You know, I've always written. I have journals and journals and journals of writing. And I wrote a book in the pandemic that will never see the light of day. It's completely, completely inappropriate. And I couldn't use it. I couldn't use it for public use. But I wanted to write something that I could use. And that book that I'd written in the pandemic,

it had a lot of good story. There was a love story in it. It was unrequited, it didn't work out and it was just everything about it was wrong. But it tied into all these awesome stories, some of which I've told you about and I'm like, well, where can I use these? And also, how can I get my message of embrace failure, embrace your flaws, enjoy life by being you instead of what you think people want you to be. How can I put that all together? And it just brought me a lot of joy.

It actually kind of wrote itself. And so it gave me an outlet to put some of my favorite stories, like running a marathon without training on a two-show day. Like that, to me, was a little bit, I did that. That was wild. I get to write it down. I get to tell. I don't actually think that's in the book.

Regardless, I get to tell these stories and wrap it up with what I think, I don't know. I just, I just want it to encourage. Yeah. That is my goal. Okay. Is for when people come in contact with me, they feel encouraged and they feel inspired.

And if they're like, that basic girl can do it, that means I can do it. Listen, I think anything is possible. And it's so easy to look at people who are where you want to be or somewhere where you think like that's not a thing and just to feel like well that's only possible for those kind of people. Yeah. And that's how I've always looked at at the people who I look up to and I've been fortunate enough to start meeting the people who I've looked up to. Okay. Slowly but surely. Yeah. I realize, they're all just people. All day, all day. What?

Yup. Like that is wild to me. Mhm. And why is that, why does that feel so mysterious? Right, right. Like take that filter off and stop gatekeeping. Let's go. That's what I'm talking about.

That's the truth. That's the truth. So if you figured something out, how does that benefit you to not share what you learned? Right. With your peers, with your sisters, like, let's communicate. I shared something on my blog a few months ago

about, I think I had a miscarriage. And I feel like you're not supposed to tell people that. Okay. But I was like, what? If I don't tell anybody, that's like the most isolating thing in the world. Yep, yep. That don't make no sense.

Who made these rules, Mick? It wasn't me. Who made these rules? Right, right. You're supposed to just go through stuff by yourself and not tell anybody? That feels completely alienating and isolating like you're all alone.

And I wrote a blog about it. And do you know how many of my friends came out of the woodwork to tell me about their stories? It wasn't just you. No, my friends who I've known. And a lot of it, a few of them, it had happened that week for them. Wow.

Like, hold up. All y'all was just gonna hold on to all this in pain, suffering by yourself? That is crazy to me. We are literally all in this together. Yeah, good stuff, Selesha. Words of wisdom. I didn't know you were a philosopher as well.

Shut up. You do it all. You do it all. The philosophy from Selesha Thomas. Oh my God. So, Selesha Thomas. Oh my God. So Selesha, you've been amazing with your time. I know how busy you are. I do want you and Andrew both to know,

very proud of both of you. Thank you. Very proud of both of you. Uncle Mick is here for you guys. Uncle Mick. Yes, Uncle Mick is there. Thank you. Absolutely.

So Selesha, where can people find and follow you? Not that they don't know where to find you, but where do you want them to follow you? Thank you for asking. They can follow me on at the Selesha Show on Instagram. That's the name of my podcast, my YouTube, well, I guess my YouTube's not called that, but my show is called The Selesha Show,

my Instagram is called The Selesha Show, and my website is theseleshashow.com. It's like by Felicia, but with an S, but it's spelled S to the A to the L to the, just kidding. Oh, keep going. You don't know how to spell your name? I know.

You don't know how to spell your name? You forgot. It's S-A-L-I-S-H-A. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, this has been my good friend, Miss Selesha, Thomas Selesha. So honored to have you. Thank you. This has meant the to have you. Thank you.

This has meant the world to me. Thank you. Can't wait to see you on stage again. Can't wait to meet my little niece, nephew when he or she remembers that mommy's the star. Oh my gosh. Gonna give mommy her day. And then, yes, absolutely.

Okay, thank you. You got it. Thank you for encouraging me. All the viewers and listeners, remember your because is your you. You got it. Thank you for encouraging me. All the viewers and listeners, remember, your because is your superpower. Go unleash it. You the best. You're incredible.

You the best. How dare you make me feel so safe? That's what I'm here for. What the heck? That's what I'm here for. No. Oh. Oh.

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