Mick Unplugged - Solving Atlanta’s Challenges with Mayor Andre Dickens

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

Mayor Andre Dickens is a proud Atlanta native whose journey to leadership began when he set his sights on becoming mayor at just sixteen. Raised in Atlanta’s public school system and shaped by a str...ong community, he became the city’s first in his family to attend college, earning an engineering degree from Georgia Tech. Before stepping into public service, Dickens succeeded as an entrepreneur, building a multi-million dollar furniture business. As Atlanta’s mayor, he’s known for his collaborative, energetic leadership—rallying city officials, business leaders, and residents alike to solve problems, support youth, and drive equity, all while preserving Atlanta's legacy as a cultural and economic powerhouse.  Key Takeaways: Purpose-Driven Leadership: Mayor Dickens' motivation to serve Atlanta stems from gratitude to the community and his personal “because”—giving back and helping others reach their potential. Youth Empowerment as a Strategy: Dickens’ focus on the “Year of the Youth” has resulted in thousands of teens gaining meaningful job opportunities and mentorship, helping drive the city’s record-low crime rates and record-high graduation rates. Transparency and Trust: He views trust and energy as the “currency” of his administration, believing authentic, accountable leadership is essential, especially in today’s climate of misinformation and public skepticism.  Sound Bytes: “Atlanta is a group project… entrepreneurship is about how to leverage the capacity of others.” “I’ve labeled Atlanta as a group project, because the mayor can’t put an S on his chest and go around here being in 50 places at one time—no, it takes all of us.” “My ‘because’ is: it’s time for me to give back and lift as I climb.” Connect & Discover Mayor Dickens: Website: City of Atlanta, GA Website: andreforatlanta.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andreforatlanta/?hl=en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/andreforatlanta/ 🔥 Ready to Unleash Your Inner Game-Changer? 🔥  Mick Hunt’s BEST SELLING book, How to Be a Good Leader When You’ve Never Had One: The Blueprint for Modern Leadership, is here to light a fire under your ambition and arm you with the real-talk strategies that only Mick delivers.  👉 Grab your copy now and level up your life → Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Books A Million  FOLLOW MICK ON: Spotify: MickUnplugged Instagram: @mickunplugged  Facebook: @mickunplugged YouTube:  @MickUnpluggedPodcast  LinkedIn: @mickhunt  Website:  MickHuntOfficial.com Apple: MickUnplugged Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:17 I consider the best city in the United States. We're going to talk about how he knew at 16. He wanted to become the mayor of the city of Atlanta. Ladies and gentlemen, buckle up. This episode is going to change your life. This is my good friend, Mayor Andre. Mayor Andre Dick, how are you doing today, sir? Hey, I'm doing well.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Thank you for that. I'm excited to be on with you today. I am the honored one, man, been a huge fan of you for a very long time. You know, I travel all the time. Delta is my airline. And every time I'm in Atlanta on the shuttles, I hear your voice. And it's always soothing. You know how travel can be sometimes.
Starting point is 00:02:00 So your voice is a calming voice on those shuttles. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So Mayor Dickin, one of the things that I love to ask folks is what's your because? That thing that's deeper than your why, right? Like everybody starts with why, and that's really awesome. But I think your because is your true passion, your true purpose.
Starting point is 00:02:23 So if I were to say Mayor Dickens, what's your because? Why do you do the things that you do? Because I've been led to do it since I was 16 years old here in Atlanta. Born and raised right here in Atlanta, I've wanted to be mayor since I was 16 years old, watching Ambassador Andrew Young when he was the mayor of Atlanta. And I was just inspired. And I've always wanted to help people become the best version of themselves. It's because I was helped by so many people.
Starting point is 00:02:52 This city helped raise me and helped make me from the Atlanta public school system to parks and recreation to just good people at church and around the community. I was made, this person that you see here today is because of other people that have helped me get to this point in life. And so my because is it's time for me to give back and lift as I climb. Wow. So Mayor Dickens, it's 16th. You just said you knew you wanted to be the mayor. That is so ambitious, but also so fulfilling and rewarding. So what at 16 really drove you.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Like I know Mr. Andrew Young was that driving force, but how did you really know that it was possible at 16? Yeah, I really can't explain where that might have come from. I don't come from a family of people that are in politics. Of course, my mom voted, but not necessarily. She wasn't some campaign leader or political figure. She read the newspaper, talked about what she read, and she would fuss at, you know, local or national figures like everybody else. She wasn't, she didn't go to college.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I became the first in my family to go to college when I went to Georgia Tech. But at 16, I just felt on my heart that Atlanta was the best place in the country. We were this growing city. And Ambassador Young was really talking about our civil rights. roots and how we are this, we're going to one day be this big international player, this powerhouse of a city. And we would still keep our feel as a, as a city that's not too busy that we can't love on one another. And that really got me going. I was excited by it. I knew I was around a bunch of cool people in my high school and a bunch of community people that wanted to see me do well. And I said,
Starting point is 00:04:40 I want to be like them. I just want to be mayor. Now, I didn't know what a city council member was. I I didn't know what a commissioner was. I barely, you know, I knew what the president and the governor and Congress did, but that was it. So it was coming from somewhere spiritual and somewhere guided by good people in the community to lead me to a decision that one day I would want to be the mayor of Atlanta and that I would hit that mark. And it happened. It happened four years ago. And it's been the ride of my life. Man, and you're doing an amazing job.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I just want you to know that too. I live in Greenville, South Carolina, but I have family in Atlanta. So I'm down there at least twice a month for visiting. And the change that you've made, the vibrance of the city is the true reflection of the impact that you have. So I want to make sure I'm giving you your kudos for all that you do for the city. Thank you. Two summers I had an internship in Greenville and Taylors and Greers, South Carolina, that area. That was when Michael Jordan tried his hand at baseball.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I was there that summer. I was in Greenville that summer and in the winter, that time period. So I know a little bit about your neck and the world. There you go. There you go. So you talked about Georgia Tech. I'm going to leave that alone. You know, I'm a bulldog at heart.
Starting point is 00:05:55 So I'll leave that alone. But you've gone from engineer and entrepreneur to mayor, right? What through line connects all those roles? Like, and more importantly, how have they shaped your approach to leadership? Yeah, there are a few through lines. through that. One is the incredible ability to solve problem. If you're an engineer, that's what you go to school for. They give you a ton of problems to solve. You learn all of the formulas, all of the strategies, all of the techniques. You learn how to, you know, grab a little bit of information and
Starting point is 00:06:34 solve complex matters. Well, as an entrepreneur, you know, you got to figure it out. It's every day. Every, every two weeks is payroll. Every month is electricity and rent. And then it's always competitive factors, how to do better, how to make your dollar stretch farther, how to open up another location. I was an entrepreneur. I owned a series of furniture stores that I started from scratch. And it became a multimillion dollar business. I had 30 employees in different locations. So being a problem solver helps there. And then being mayor, I mean, what mayor doesn't see his or her share of problems every day. We have millions of people that give me input saying we want better this. We need more of that. And I even see things that I want to solve. And so problem solving
Starting point is 00:07:23 is a great skill set to have as an entrepreneur, as a mayor, and definitely, of course, as an engineer. The other through line that I would say is the ability to work well with others. Because when you're solving problems, you may not be the only person that has all the answers. So I've labeled Atlanta as a group project. I say Atlanta is a group project, and everybody galvanizes to that because the mayor can't put an S on his or her chest and go around here and be in 50 places at one time, solving all the problems by Friday. No, it takes all of us.
Starting point is 00:07:56 It brings people together. And so entrepreneurship is about how to leverage the capacity of others. And then, of course, as an engineer, you're working in a group environment to be able to help deliver something for the company or for the organization. And so I'm a force multiplier. I'm somebody that can take, you know, one person here, one person there, one idea here, one idea there, bring them all together so that we get the greater good out of that. And so it's been so helpful to be an engineer, to be in this office, to be someone who knows
Starting point is 00:08:29 how to bring people together to get things done. That's why we're doing so much, so fast. I think it's part of my nature and part of my experience. I love that, man. I love that so much. And, you know, I try to tell leaders, especially entrepreneurs, the importance of being involved with your city government, right? You solve a lot of problems. You also hear a lot of complaints.
Starting point is 00:08:52 And I personally feel people wouldn't complain as much if they actually were involved with the city or their local government, right? Like if they were going to some of these meetings, to some of the town halls. Mayor Dickens can't press a button and make everything happen, right? But he can't listen. And then he can share maybe the truth of things that are going on. And I'm using you as an example. But I've always believed, no matter where I live, the first thing I do is get connected with my city government.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I love for you to tell the listeners and viewers how important that is from your viewpoint when business leaders and entrepreneurs get to be involved with the city. It is so important. It is vital. Businesses benefit from a thriving city. so they should contribute to a thriving city. They should contribute to a city that's struggling to help it thrive. They should contribute to a thriving city so that it thrives more.
Starting point is 00:09:49 These things really are group projects. So whether it's businesses for profit, non-profits, clergy, everybody, including the government, has to work hand in hand. I'll give you an example. You know, so most people, most of us genuinely care about young people. and if someone comes to the mayor and say, hey, we need to do something about these kids, right? That sounds like something somebody has said to a mayor before. We got to help these kids.
Starting point is 00:10:18 And then you're like, all right, what are you going to do? They're like, no, I'm going to you. You're the mayor. Go solve that problem. These kids need this, they need this, that. I mean, there's no limit to how much stuff we'll say that a kid needs. And so I've turned that around and said, okay, this is what we're going to do. we're going to make sure that we grow our youth programming, that we're going to make sure these
Starting point is 00:10:40 kids have outstanding after school programs, summer programs, weekend, that they're going to be busy flourishing. And so we've dubbed it the year of the youth. So I said, hey, it's going to be the year of the youth. But it's not just going to come from City Hall. I need everybody involved in the year of the youth. So if you care about youth like you say you do, hire one of these intern, $15 an hour for eight weeks during the summer. That's not going to break your business bank, but it's going to give you an opportunity to help change someone's life. You'll be a mentor to them. You'll help them earn while they learn. And that individual, that young person, they won't get in trouble that summer. They're going to have a steady job. They'll be able to go to the movies,
Starting point is 00:11:26 go to six flags, they'll be able to buy clothes and all the fancy things that they like, all the little cool stuff the kids like to do. They won't have to get in trouble. to get the things that they want. And so we did that. Over the last four years, we've had over 16,000 young people employed in this city making a minimum wage of $15 an hour. Some of them on average,
Starting point is 00:11:48 on average, it's like $17.50 an hour. These are teenagers. And they'll never forget that internship that they did with your company or with your nonprofit or with this major corporation. They will always remember that. And then like after school programming,
Starting point is 00:12:04 There's programs that exist at our recreation centers, but there's also non-profits and churches and things. You know, so if you're serving 50 kids, we'll give you some money to help serve 75. If you're serving 100 kids, we'll give you some money to serve 150. So we've been doing that as a part of the year of the youth, and it's been producing results. We also started midnight basketball and all these things. We've got the largest midnight basketball program in the United States right now. And here's the results.
Starting point is 00:12:31 crime is so far down it is way down in the city of Atlanta right now we had the third highest drop in crime in the nation and the graduation rate is that the highest has ever been in the city's history because we've all really sewn into these young people we've done it together business owners are saying okay i get it i'm a part of the solution that's right you are a part of the solution and not just a part of figuring out how many problems we have Don't call City Hall telling me about problems if you're not there to help with solutions. And guess what? These kids that you help intern, these kids that you help mentor, they're your future workforce.
Starting point is 00:13:12 They're the ones that you're going to be having to, you know, they're going to start their careers in your companies. They're going to be your mid-level managers. And then one day, they'll be the ones that take over your business for you. I totally agree with that. And I get that from my mentor. I was telling you, Damon John, right? like Damon, the president of his company today started as an intern, right? You get to know people a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:13:36 You get to see them. You get to coach and mentor them through things. And hopefully, right, the education or the abilities that they have, the skill sets that they have start to rise and you were able to groom that. And so I'm with you, man. Like, you know, Whitney's song, the children are our future. Well, sometimes we have to put that in the act. And so I applaud you for all the amazing things that you have done for the city, especially as it relates to youths, man, because, you know, like, us growing up, we were called the lost generation, right?
Starting point is 00:14:12 Well, you're doing something about it. And so I applaud you for doing something about it. It's the matcha or the three ensemble Cado Cephora of the fact that I just didn't niche, who me energize so much, it's all the ensemble. The form of standard and mini, regrouped, hello, Ben. And the embellage, too beau, who is practically. And I know I'd I'd like I'd like they'd offer them. But I guard
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Starting point is 00:14:52 thing ofabob need a pick me up snack back to reality with Tim's new Cravable Raps available in Chipotle or ranch, plus tax at participating restaurants in Canada for limited time. Thank you. Thank you. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So for those that don't know, Atlanta is a cultural and economic and political force. I mean, I think most of the viewers and listeners know that. But how do you personally balance preserving the legacy of Atlanta while also pushing it into the future?
Starting point is 00:15:24 Yeah, that's a delicate balancing act. You want to highlight and really revere and respect the past because the past is very valuable while also preparing ourselves and launching into the future. So I say moving Atlanta forward. We're trying to move Atlanta forward, but we're not trying to forget our past. We're blessed in Atlanta to have civil rights leaders that I get to see every day. I literally was with Ambassador Andrew Young yesterday. I'm literally going to, I talk to Bernie's King, the daughter of the late grade
Starting point is 00:15:59 Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. I talked to her yesterday and today. So I talked to Fortune 500 corporations this morning. I have 40 of them at my table this morning where we talked about our quarterly meeting on where the city is going. So literally all around me in a day, in less than 24 hours, I've been in touch with considerable contributors to our history. And I'm in touch with people that are right now holding together all of the businesses and economic development of our current environment. And I even met with my senior technology advisor for lunch today to talk about our technology growth and the areas of focus in financial technology, in various development of apps and things that we're trying
Starting point is 00:16:50 to do around attracting venture capital. So in less than 24 hours, I've talked about things that are very sincere and deep about Atlanta's history, as you can imagine with Bernie's King or with Andrew Young, how they feel about the national stage right now, what's happening in the world, what's happening in nature, I mean, in the nation. And then also talking about where we are as a strong city, as a metropolitan area that really punches above. is weight. This town competes with international giants. We have all these major corporations, the Coca-Cola's, the Home Depot, UPS, Delta Airlines, you name it. We've got it here that really thrive. And then we have small, medium-sized, but also important technology businesses and
Starting point is 00:17:41 minority businesses. We have the world's busiest airport here, the most impactful and consequential airport in the United States is in Atlanta. And so I think about how to manage all that is to be a good listener, to be someone who's very much engaged, to always seek advice from people that are capable of, you know, demonstrated if they know what they're talking about and have a significant experience in these things. But I'm also, you know, able to say, after hearing everything I've heard, this is the path that we're going down. And I have a dynamic team behind me that we press forward and we don't look back. We move very well together.
Starting point is 00:18:27 And we're pretty successful at hitting the targets that we go after. I would definitely agree with that, man. I would totally agree with that. You know, Mayor Dickens, I teach leaders that there's this one thing that's the new currency with modern society, modern employees. and that's trust, right? So at a time where public trust and leadership is fragile, how are you cultivating transparency, accountability,
Starting point is 00:18:56 and trust with your constituents? To hear you say that is music to my ears. That's like, wow. Let me tell you, I got elected, and then we did the inauguration on the first Monday of 2022. I walked in the city hall, and I had my first cabinet meeting with all of the senior leaders, and I told them right then and there, trust and energy are my currency.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Literally said that. And so I go to the community and say, and I go to my community, I go to all of the employees I have, and basically trust and energy are my currency. You can trust me. I'm going to do as I say. I'm going to be transparent. I do it with integrity. You can always depend on me.
Starting point is 00:19:41 And I'm going to do it at the highest standards of ethics, except. but I trust you as well. And we exchange that trust. That's how we get things done. I trust you, you trust me, and we continue to exchange that trust, and it has tremendous value. Now, energy is a whole other thing. I have the energy to do this job.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I'm high energy. I don't get tired. I push forward. And because I'm energized by seeing us meet our goals, I'm energized by all of the things that people ask us to do in a day. They will never let us rest. on our laws of success, the community is always saying, thank you, but what about doing something else on this side of town? Thank you. Can you do it two more times? Thank you. Can you do it tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:20:27 Thank you, but hey, we need more. And I have to have the energy to say, okay, let's gear back up, get back out there and do some more of it. And so trust, you have to trust is earned. And trust is fragile. This political landscape, everybody, is at some form of, at some point in time, distrust, mistrust, misrepresentation, misinformation is out there. The algorithm is dividing us, and so are some of our elected leaders. People are trying to divide us. And the algorithm and folks are allowing that division to occur. And so people don't know who to trust. I believe that right now, authenticity is really the best value that we can have.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Be our authentic selves in every room, in every interview, on every stage, and on every task to just do it with authenticity. And, you know, when AI might come up with some funky person that looks like me, may even sound like me. But because I've demonstrated myself to be trustworthy and authentic, somebody's going to say, that ain't Dre. I know the real laundry. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Yes, sir. So, Mayor, you often talk about equity and opportunity. And I think a lot of times in society, we'll see those as flashy buzzwords, right? Like something that's trending. But it's really pillars to what you believe in and what you stand for. How do you turn those values from buzzwords to intangible political outcomes or policy outcomes? Hit pause on whatever you're listening to and hit play on your next adventure.
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Starting point is 00:22:51 Now that's a mountain of entertainment. Yeah, you have to personalize it. This has to be personal to you. It can't just be academic. It can't just be political or corporate jargon. It can't just be, hey, get to the next quarter or get to the next year. and see what the stats are, that won't lead you to the success that you're looking for,
Starting point is 00:23:17 and it also will be snubbed out as inauthentic. People have to feel that you really are sincere about equity. It has to come through in every line that you deliver in everything that you do. You're either for it or you're against it. You can't be half-stepping with it. And so I tell you that, for me, it rains. throughout everything. It's in my vision statement and mission statement. It's in our actions. It's in our offices. And nobody finds it to be a burden. They find it to be natural. It is who we are.
Starting point is 00:23:55 It's our cultural DNA as a city. It's in the DNA of my administration. And I, you know, live by that ethos daily. So it's nothing I got to gear up for or try to figure out before somebody calls me and asks me a question about it. It's already inside of it. me. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Mayor Dickens, I want to give you the floor. If you had 30 seconds to speak directly to the next generation of change makers, what would you say to them? Because they're listening and watching this episode right now. To the next generation, I will tell you to be very, very bold, to stand for something, to be your true authentic self. And if you take advice from me, I would say state your goal as early as it hits you. Once I knew who I wanted to be,
Starting point is 00:24:48 I said then at 16, I want to be the mayor of my home city, the city of Atlanta. I didn't hide it under a rock. I didn't conceal it because it's too big of a dream that maybe somebody will say, hey, you know, you can't be mayor. There's only one of them at a time. And they only get that job every four years. So how dare you have the audacity to want to be the mayor? And to be serious about it. No, I told everybody. So when I came around and said, I'm running for city council, there was not a doubt in any of my friends and in my family and in my teachers and in my churchgoers. They were all like, finally, let's go. Let's run. Where's my t-shirt? Where's my button? Where's my sign? I'm with you. You talked about this since you were a teenager.
Starting point is 00:25:32 And so I think that there's a CEO, there's a pilot, there's a media mogul, there's somebody who's a great doctor or a potential, you know, astronaut, a lawyer, or what have you, whatever it hits you, or something I don't even know what you would call it. You have a drive, you have a perspective, you have an interest. I say be bold. Talk about it. Pray over it. Give it to your team, give it to your friends, give it to your parents and say, this is what I feel. And then watch them along with you put forth the energy and the effort to one day hit that goal. and you'll, you'll never regret it. Man, I needed to hear that.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I needed to hear that, man. Like, that was deep. That was, like, I have something I'm going to take away and I'm actually going to put in place because of something you just said. You had no idea, but I needed that one. I needed that one. All right, good.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yes, sir. So I'm going to get you out of here, Mayor Dickens, I call it my hot five, my quick five, all right? Okay, okay. All right, rapid fire. First question, is Georgia Tech ever going to beat Georgia in football again? Yes, this year. Oh, that was bold.
Starting point is 00:26:55 That was both. Okay. I'll come see you in a no- right now. I'll come see you in a number. No worry. All right, you don't have to name the restaurant because I don't want you to get in trouble. But what is your favorite Atlanta meal that always has?
Starting point is 00:27:09 the spot. What's the dish? Ah, man, I eat good all the time. I love food. I will tell you, it's going to sound so typical, but lemon pepper wings, man. Okay. Okay. All right. We'll have those at the Georgia Tech game this year, me and you. Let's do it. Yep, yep, yep, yeah. There we go. What's one book that's changed your leadership style? the alchemist that's a great book it's a fable read it i read it every time i'm trying to make a significant change you know i've probably read it six or seven times now okay it's a easy read too yeah it's a great book i totally agree i have that one as well what's one hidden gym in
Starting point is 00:27:59 atlanta that everyone should experience at least once oh man there's so many Hidden gyms. You know, this gym isn't completely hidden, but it is a nice place to a retreat. It's called the Cascade Nature Reserve. It has a waterfall. It's a walk through the woods. It's a nature trail. You get to see a lot of, you know, birds and, you know, lots of species of plants and trees.
Starting point is 00:28:29 And then it has a waterfall in there. You can just meander and get lost, but it's still within the city. You don't have to drive a hour to get to it. You can get to it really quickly. And some people, you know, go to it every week as a place to just, you know, take a wall, get a little bit of a clearing of their minds. It became popular during the COVID because it was an outdoor space that people could just, like, get some fresh air. So Cascade Nature Reserve right there on Cascade Avenue. Cascade wrote.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Okay. All right. As the story of Mayor Andre Dickens is being told. what's one word that you want to define your legacy? Wow. One word. Love. And I'll tell you why.
Starting point is 00:29:19 My pastor, he says, love ought to look like something. And so, you know, people say they love Atlanta. They love the people. They love this. They love that. Well, if you do, it'll look like something. And so for me, that one word is love. So when I'm gone, people will say, I see all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:39 I see how he made me feel. I see how he changed this city. That must have been loved. That in and of itself is why you are who you are, man. I tell people all the time, you are one of the most brilliant people, one of the most brilliant leaders that I've ever seen in action. A lot of it has to do with the stat you were talking about earlier. Crime was going down. The city looks cleaner when you're going through the city now.
Starting point is 00:30:05 There's so much booming that continues to happen in the city of Atlanta. And you are the forefront of that, man. So I always love giving people their flowers when they can receive them. And I want you to know that there are a lot of people that, number one, look up to you. And I also need you to know this, too. We talk about how we stood on the shoulders of giants. Well, you are now those shoulders that people are standing. And I'm so freaking proud of you, brother.
Starting point is 00:30:34 I'm so proud of you. Thank you so much for that, man. I really appreciate that. Thank you for this platform. Continue to do what you're doing. You are really inspiring folks and educating them. And this is just amazing. I'm glad to be a part of it.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Keep doing what you're doing. You got it, my man. And for all the viewers and listeners, remember your because is your superpower. Go unleash it. You've been plugged into Mick Unplugged. Don't just listen. Take action. Rate and subscribe.
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