Mick Unplugged - Unveiling Simplicity in Leadership with Marlissa Hudson

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

Marlissa Hudson is a celebrated soprano who has graced the stage of Carnegie Hall, yet her talents extend far beyond music. A proud Duke University graduate, Marlissa has established herself as a dynamic consultant and transformative fundraiser, known for her expertise in unlocking access to resources for Black and Brown communities. As co-founder of English Hudson, she has doubled organization budgets, exceeded fundraising goals, and broken down barriers in traditionally exclusive spaces. Driven by a profound sense of purpose and gratitude for those who paved her way, Marlissa uses her voice—on stage and in the boardroom—to champion inclusivity, courage, and lasting change. Takeaways Purpose Beyond Surface: Marlissa’s journey shows that finding your “because”—a purpose deeper than just a “why”—can anchor your leadership, refuel you through challenges, and enable you to stand as a shoulder for others to climb higher. The Power of Simplicity and Courage: Being productive isn’t about busyness; it’s about simplifying priorities, setting strong boundaries, and having the courage to engage authentically, even in difficult conversations. Access and Impact in Fundraising: True fundraising success is not just about hitting numbers—it’s about opening doors for those historically left out and ensuring that money raised directly translates into meaningful, community-driven change.  Sound Bites “If not you, then who? I know I was designed for this, but the deeper because of it all is because people poured into me at so many points in my life when I had neither earned it nor deserved it.” “Busyness is one of the biggest things people use. I can’t be prepared for this meeting because I’m so busy… But if you want to really make a dent, you have to be authentic and vulnerable.” “The money is the vehicle. It is not the purpose. Connect & Discover Marlissa: Intagram: https://www.instagram.com/marlissahudson/?hl=en Website: English Hudson Consulting LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marlissahudson/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/100063699940555/about/?_rdr Album: Lust 🔥 Ready to Unleash Your Inner Game-Changer? 🔥   Mick Hunt’s brand-new book, How to Be a Good Leader When You’ve Never Had One: The Blueprint for Modern Leadership, is here to light a fire under your ambition and arm you with the real-talk strategies that only Mick delivers.   👉 Grab your copy now and level up your life → Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Books A Million   FOLLOW MICK ON: Spotify: MickUnplugged Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mickunplugged/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mickunplugged/   YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@MickUnpluggedPodcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mickhunt/ Website:  https://mickhuntofficial.com/ Apple: MickUnplugged Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Conflict, probably. Friendship, doubtful. But an amazing conversation? Absolutely. And friendship, for sure. You know, I was just teasing on that piece. But I'm sitting down and had one of the most. amazing conversations I've ever had with Marlissa Hudson. Marlissa, Carnegie Hall,

great. One of the best singers you will ever have the honor of listening to, but also one of the brightest consulting minds and fundraisers in the business. In this conversation, we talk a little bit about her journey. We go deep into her because, and you're going to come away with action. If you were a leader and you're struggling with time management, priority management, and you wear the term busy as a badge of honor, we're going to break down what you really should be doing instead so that you're the most productive person that you can be. And at the end in our top five,

we talk about why Marlissa should have gone to UNC versus going to Duke. Ladies and gentlemen, I present the wonderful, the amazing. Marlissa Hudson, Marlissa, how are you doing today, dear? Nick, I'm better now. If you are willing to be hired as a hype man sold, You're amazing. Thank you for that intro. It's the Carolina thing that we do, Marlissa. So let's just go right into that whole Carolina thing.

University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the greatest university on earth. We call it heaven where I'm from. How you feel about that, Marlissa? I mean, you know, I went to Duke. You went to where? Don't do that. The Duke University. Yes.

We'll bleep that out. Don't worry. We'll bleep that out. I will allow the UNC thing only because my best friend at the time, her sister went there. So we had a bit of a cultural exchange happening. It's okay. It's okay. You really didn't want to go to Duke.

I understand. I understand. I'll do it with you later. Off the record. But yes, I can't say what I want to say because I don't think I'm a lot of person here. So I'm letting go for now. No. Marlissa, one, all jokes aside, huge fan of who you are.

Huge fan of what you represent and just the person that you strive to be, the mantle that you are, and I know you're very humble. But on behalf of a lot of people, I just want to say thank you, Marlissa, for the conversations you have, the rooms that you put into for the voiceless and faceless that can't get into certain rooms. For the conversations that you bring forward, I just want to say thank you. I'm not even sure how to,

because I feel very much the same way about you, Mick. And I'll receive the thank you in this moment. But I have to tell you, I never felt like it was a choice that I had to be here in this moment, that I'm built for this, I'm designed for this. So I'm really grateful

in a lot of ways to even be in this position. Well, again, all I can say is thank you. because you are the shoulders for a lot of people to stand on, right? And I think we all get to a point, well, I shouldn't say we all. A lot of people get to a point where you've stood on shoulders. And then you have to take a step back and then realize, wait a second, now I'm shoulders for people to follow and to come behind. And so again, just want to say thank you for that, which leads to the first question

that I have for you, Marlissa. you know, I always ask my guess, what's your because, that thing that's deeper than your why that keeps you rooted into what you're doing. And I've wanted to ask you this since your, your Chapel Hill days, but what is your, what is your because? Why do you do what you do? Why have you become that shoulder that others can stand on? Well, I'll start, I mean, my why is because I can, frankly, because I'm in a unique

position and you know I don't know who this should be attributed to they say if not you then who i know i was designed for this um but the deeper because of it all i think um it's because people poured into me at so many points in my life when i had neither earned it nor deserved it and when i think of the sacrifices made like i looked i was going through my paperwork the other day and discovered my paternal grandmother had two master's degrees. This woman was born in 1919. So if she was able to do those things, right, to support who would eventually become me, who am I to not take that advantage and privilege and use it to exponentially grow what I see as an unjust world to become just? Wow. Wow. Yeah, she was some else. Mommy Alice was not a joke.

I'm telling you. I'm telling you. And I want to go a little bit deeper into the, if not you, then who? Because that's so powerful. When did you know it was you? Did you have that moment? Was there a time when it was like, all right, it's me? That's a really good question.

To be honest, even when I was singing, like, fully in that world, I knew that communication and using my privilege for change was going to be part of it. It's only that I thought it was going to be. you're singing primarily in the beginning. I would say if there was a moment when I knew it was me, it was probably three years into my solo consulting, which I know we'll get into. And my mentor, who became my colleague and friend

and then business partner, we were having a conversation about what could happen. We mapped it out. And it was like, there's nothing we cannot accomplish together. So that was really the moment that I knew it was me. Yeah, I love it. I love it.

So let's go into Carnegie Hall. And you owning stages for two decades, right? Like, let's go into Marlissa, the soprano, the standard. Like, again, I will give Duke some credit, right? Like, you did some great things there. Well, thank you. It's over. That's all the credit.

That was it. I'll take you know, I'll take my little stuff. Yeah, yeah. We're done with the Duke praise. Now it's the Marlissa praise, right? So talk about those moments of your voice and just commanding stages. And when you knew that that your voice, pun intended, was making a difference and could get you places that that maybe you wouldn't have got before.

Yeah, sure. you know what you should run a podcast you ask some really deep thoughtful questions sir so when i went to duke it wasn't even for music i wanted to be an economics major and realized for the first time i think it was my sophomore year that i was kind of sad which as you get to know me is not really a thing you would attribute to me well it was duke i get it i would have been sad too you're going to get me in so much trouble um i realized that there was something more and that music was that thing um and through my voice i thought i could heal i still think i can heal right um and classical music wasn't even my original goal but i just had a

voice that lent itself to it and it gave me both a tenacity because i mean you understand in that world you hear no every five minutes and mick it's not just about your boys don't think they're just criticizing you as a singer, they will talk about how you look to your face. Yeah. They will break down like your way of practicing, your way of performing. And it,

I mean, I was a sensitive child. It broke me down to the studs. Do you hear me? But the strength that came from it let me know that that was part and parcel of whatever else it was I needed to do. Definitely for that question.

Absolutely. Okay. Great. Absolutely. Absolutely. And so for those that don't know, For those that are watching or those that are listening, just how hard is it to get into Carnegie Hall? Okay, so hard.

Let's start there. I mean, and there are several ways to do it now. And depending on who you ask, the prestige depends on that level. You can go as a kid if like your children's choir is invited, but y'all are paying. Right. Real. And then at the top level, it's when you're invited. So I had a beautiful fortune of being invited by a.

composer who was doing a premiere at Carnegie Hall and so for me it was like again I think if I had to say a theme of my life it's like how did I get here and that was one of those how did I get here moments I mean he found out about me through a mutual friend who I went to high school with Nick who was a conductor and she having to be friends with him and he was doing this thing and they were looking for a soprano and it happened to be me so that So bottom line is if you are invited to Carnegie Hall, my friend, it is difficult. Yeah. And that's been the case for me each time I come.

Yeah. Yeah. And you went from Carnegie Hall, like I said, in the beginning, to boardrooms. And now, again, becoming that voice for the voiceless, that face for the faceless. As a consultant. And, you know, at some point, I want to retire the word consultant. but until we find out what's that new word or new phrase or term for it because it's more than just advice it's more than therapy like there are a lot of times that

you know we have to open doors we have to create tables when tables and rooms don't exist right why did you and when did you say okay this is a focal point for me now

For me, the biggest piece of that, so I knew I was always an entrepreneur. Let's start there. Even as a singer, I was an entrepreneur. But the reason I chose consulting is I wanted to have maximal impact. And I felt like in order to do that, I needed to be in a lot of different places at a lot of different levels. And fundraising, little secret, the science of it is not that hard. It's don't let them fool you because of privilege. and a whole lot of gatekeeping, it's obfuscated and made difficult for people to access.

So I know I wanted to get in there, and that's the second reason I wanted to be a consultant, because I wanted to disrupt the current systems for fundraisers and bring folks who normally wouldn't do this work into it. You can make great money, mid-level six figures as a fundraiser, either as a consultant or in-house at an organization. And I'm like, I can do this because, frankly, from my singing, one, I had no ego left. So there's nothing you can say to me that's going to deter me. Plus, frankly, I have a mental toughness that was hard thought, probably through a little bit of trauma. But either way, it's hard to dissuade me. And once I saw the matrix and that I saw, okay, wait a minute, the science of fundraising isn't the hard part.

And I already had the art friend. So let me get in here and see what change I can create. and change you do and change you do thank you marlissa again i'm a huge fan and one of the reasons why is we have a very similar philosophy and i'm going to let you you break this down but you often talk about i'm going to say it my way keeping the simple things simple right like don't overcomplicate something or some things that can be simple task or simple decisions let's talk to the viewers and listeners about the importance. Again, my words, but I'm going to let you say it your way

of keeping the simple things simple. I mean, part of that, frankly, is understanding what's most important. And sometimes people confuse urgency with importance. So I start there. What is that one thing today that will drive impact? Like, if I do nothing else between now and the end of the day, what is that one thing that will guarantee me to be one step ahead tomorrow? And I know, you know, 1% better is out of favor. I think that's a little weird anyway. I listen to a few of your podcasts with a subject. Thank you.

But what you can do is set yourself up for success. The other piece of that is focus. Yes. You know, your inbox is flooded. How do you know which one of the things is most important? And that's by understanding your true north. Mick, I used to call myself the chief parkour officer. That's it.

I, you know, I will not let anything. I will go around through jobs. go underneath to get us there but the bottom line is I have to know where I'm going in order to be successful when I reach it and I think people overcomplicate a lot out of fear which I hope we get to talk about yeah it's like if I'm busy if I'm doing things like nobody will notice or people will leave me alone I am disinterested in being one of those people who says oh I've got you know 18 meetings today I have no no that's not a flex correct My flex is when I'm able to spend two hours in deep thought about how to drive the next piece of change.

And that, frankly, beyond the fact that my brain is the way it is, is why I simplify. I want to do what's most important in the thing that's going to help my community live a better life. I totally agree. Marlissel, this is why we vibe so well because I'm a huge proponent of using the Eisenhower matrix, right? So I start my day literally with everything of, what's that? urgent and important, what's important but not urgent. Come on now. Right?

And I try to put everything in my life that's important but not urgent, right? And one of the rules that I have, and this is for every entrepreneur, for every leader out there, Melissa and I are going to break this down. Just because it's important and urgent for someone else doesn't mean it has to be my priority. and in my companies, we have rules of negotiation. And if you want me to take something off of your plate that is urgent and important for you, then you've got to negotiate something off of my plate. Or it wasn't meant for me to be working on this with you.

Like we have ground rules and barriers because I think that's where many leaders and entrepreneurs go wrong. Even from a customer service standpoint, right? It is not Marlissa's fault. that Mick called her company at 4.55 p.m. And need something in five minutes before the doors close or the lights turn off. But for whatever reason, a lot of companies take that and now you put your employees under stress for no reason. So we have rules of engagement.

We have service level agreements with our clients that, hey, just because you called or emailed or sent something in doesn't mean that we stop everything that we do for you. It's not bad customer service, but we set the rules of engagement. So we know if you call in or request a certain thing, the turnaround time for this might be 48 hours. The turnaround time for this might be seven business days. It could be 30 business days, whatever it is, because we never set the expectation that just because you call means that you get a response instant. Oh, my gosh. This is a very long conversation that we don't have time for, but English Hudson has very distinct rules of engagement as well. one of the biggest ones we use a book called radical candor for communication okay love it

another one is courage which is probably the hardest of all of it like I have to be able and this is just my own personal hypothesis I think if one of the top three issues with how we all do business and how this current world works is a lack of courage notice I didn't say you know fear you can be afraid friend but I sit in meetings all day where people don't say a thing because they're afraid of how they'll be perceived. And if they do say it, they hit you with the, oh, I'm just giving blunt honesty, which is very much disguises me,ness, right? Right. So for us, yes, we are highly responsive. Yes, I will give you the best serve excellence is one of our core values. So that has to happen. But it can't come at the cost of

the health and wellness of our people. Yes. So we formulate everything. We put all the stop gaps in place mix so that that 455 call rarely comes frankly but when it does i expect to get pinged i don't want any of my consultants to feel like they're having to take that on alone and that's one of the other biggest pieces we are 18 yeah so as one of us goes the other goes if one of us is suffering that means the rest of us are suffering and we know we are not in er despite what people feel like nobody is going to live or die based on this moment but yeah we do create change, but we do it not at the cost, hopefully, of our people. Yes, yes.

And I want to go deeper into something that you talked about with the, I'm busy, but it's really fear in disguise, or it's a badge of honor because I, again, we could talk all day because we're in so much alignment with our philosophies. I'd love for you to break that down because I know that there is someone listening or watching right now that for years. has used the label busy as a badge of honor when at the end of the day, they probably are one of the least productive people

at said organization. Yeah, hello, and I can speak to this because at some point, I'm sure I was this person, right? Calendar lit up from STEM to Stern and proud of it. I think that's the difference. So just to pull back, you know, my firm does fundraising. And, you know, with money comes fear. I mean, raise your hand if you've never had any trauma

around finances. When we say this in the room, everybody's just and when there's trauma, that means they're shame. So you'll do a lot of dances to cover up and not, again, use the courage to confront what you're doing. And busyness is one of the biggest things people use. I can't be prepared for this meeting because, oh, I'm so busy, I've got to do all these things, everybody's counting on me.

I can't read this grant that you wrote because I'm so busy. I've got all these things. everyone's counting on me. I have had people ask me for five to seven pieces of paper to go into a funder meeting because they're afraid. They feel like it's like an armor. They'll put it all over themselves and they'll be ready. Friends, you won't. You won't. You have to be vulnerable, Nick. If you want to really make a dent and frankly, you want to get away from that busyness line and busyness label, you have to be authentic and vulnerable. And that's hard for people. I'll say particularly for folks like us who were raised

to be professional, raised that this is the way you conduct yourself in a business world, but it creates a barrier between you and the people, frankly, who want to invest in it. Say that again. Wow. That's, that's,

I'm writing that down. I might need to borrow that line. I'm sure we can borrow a lot of things from each other. Yeah, I'll give you my UNC diploma. I knew you were coming. I knew you were coming. He's going to make you as he dope.

I walked into that one. It's okay. It's okay. So Marlissa, let's talk about corporate engagement and gifts that often feel like closed doors to black and brown communities.

You, your organization, when I talk about the shoulder that you now are for us to stand on, I know this is one of the things that you pride yourself in. So let's talk to the viewers and listeners about these closed doors and locked doors and what you're doing to help open these up?

Yeah, access is something that's denied historically and categorically, but we are definitely in an era where even more so the money is hidden. So people call it dark money. Use whatever label you want, but there are a few keys to break open those barriers. For one, the bigger grant dollars now, you know, from foundations, Most of the time, it's invite only. They're like, okay, but how do I get an invitation?

One, sometimes you're able to find somebody, I've done this, friend, to go on the website, find an email. I even know how to look emails up. I won't tell you all at this moment. And just send an email. Like, this is why you should care. Some have a form where you can submit a short why. That is not the most efficient way to do it, but it yields results. Frankly, the most efficient way to do it is to do incredible work and an important way.

invite those people in to see it before you start asking for things. Invite them in as something beyond a wallet. Invite them in as somebody who can contribute as a thought partner. So I've seen a lot of folks get in with the foundation because they're like, I kept inviting this person to our annual whatever it was until they came. Also, obviously, whoever is already currently invested in you is your best source of the next folks who will be invested in you. They all hang out, Mick. So, well, you know, I know you're at X Foundation.

Would you be willing to recommend me to a couple more foundations? Now, you got to stay on folks to do that, but I guarantee you the closest of your relationship with them beyond the dollars is what will dictate if they then champion you to other folks. There's one more. It's a little, it's interesting. So whoever's on your board can also be very helpful, like if you have a board of directors, because they have access. I mean, there's a private foundation. there's corporate foundations, particularly for corporate foundations, if they have an end, see, I'm really talking shot now.

I hope this isn't too boring. If they haven't been, it's an easier end for you. And if the employees in that corporation are already volunteering, pro bono, doing whatever, and are engaged with your organization, that's going to make the corporate folk stand up and take an interest. I could do this all day, but those are a few to think about. So let's tell the viewers and listeners some of the results. that you've had, right?

Like, again, I want everybody to understand who Marlissa Hudson is and what she means to these communities. So let's talk about, again, I know you're humble. You don't have to brag, but let's talk about some of the results you've gained. Yeah, I mean, as a company and as me as a person, we've doubled the budgets of multiple organizations.

So you're going in, let's say, at a million in a year. And this doesn't happen. I mean, 100% growth is difficult, but we've done it more than one time. Event funding is another big one. Everybody wants to have an event. Typically, Mick, they don't have great ROI because of the energy required to do them. I'm actually correct. But we've exceeded the goal amount 90% of the time.

So we know how to raise money. That is not my issue anymore, frankly. what I am prep the thing that keeps me up at night is is the money I'm raising creating change and am I partnering with the right organization come on friend am I partnering with the right organizations to get that work done

my nightmare is that when I leave this mortal coil my tombstone reads here lies Marlissa Hudson she raised $4 billion and nothing changed the money is the vehicle it is not the purpose Correct. Correct. Come on now. Yeah. Come on now. We can talk all day, Marlissa. We can talk all day. We really can. Because, again, the work you're doing is so important and so needed. And you're right. As someone who throws and host events, right, a lot in the leadership community and the entrepreneur community, people don't understand what it takes to put on. a game-changing event, not just an event for the sake of events, because a lot of people do that.

But when you're talking about the experience, there's a lot that goes into that. And again, that's why I applaud you because you make it possible for people like me to be able to do the things that we do, to have the reach that we have, to touch, impact, and change the lives that we're supposed to. So again, I applaud you for that because I know you're doing it too. well and frankly mick i don't know if you've ever tried it but you would be a fabulous fundraiser have you ever thought about it i have not yeah i mean because if there's one thing i can tell you do exceptionally well it's grow relationships that is the secret of fundraising wow so whenever you're ready like you know we can combine forces like i know we could get some magical

things done together done deal don't believe you that i'm so excited no i'm i'm very serious. Done deal. Done deal. We don't even have to take it offline. That's a done deal. Absolutely. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yes. So before I get you out of here with my top five, I want to talk about what neuroscience means to you and why that's so important to you and the family and what you're doing now. Oh, so my son is at Brown University. He's a rising senior. And he wants to change how we age. he wants to increase both your lifespan and your health span, which some would argue is more important. I think you get the difference. And the way he wants to do that is to go into either neuroscience or become a neurosurgeon. He wants to unlock the powers of health through the brain.

And it's important to me for a number of reasons. I mean, that young man, I'm trying not to say child, is my heartbeat. But he's also an impact. and a healer and a truly kind soul and I actually see a lot of that in you and people like him and like you have to be put in positions where they can unlock the full extent of their talents. Yeah. And for him, that's neuroscience. Okay. But he also intrinsically sees the good in people.

And I think as a little kid, he wanted the pain to stop. Every time somebody was hurt, like he felt it. Yeah. And neuroscience is one of many ways that that young man, Hudson Eaton is going to end up changing the world. I hope to be the first investor in his company when it launches. I want to be number two then. We can let mom be number one.

I would love to be number two. And I mean that. That's on recording. I can tell. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for asking. Absolutely. Absolutely.

All right. You ready for this quick five? Let's do it. I've been practicing. You know, I listen to your stuff. I do my homework mix. So I listen to everything. All right.

So I'm going to start with the easy one. I'm going to lie before we get into the hard ones. Your most favorite arena that you've ever performed in. Aside from the Dean Don't. So this is going to be a strange answer, but it was actually Ladoo Chapel in St. Louis, Missouri. Ooh. And it's not because it has the best acoustics in the world.

Carnegie Hall actually takes that cake. It's because it's the place I performed two weeks after my father passed. and I was raising money to go to grad school and the energy and the love I felt in that room means that no matter where I am in the world like that's my safe space. That's where I go back to. Okay.

I love that. I love that. Man, my heart just got touched. Thank you. That's deep. That's deep. So if Marlissa is going on a mental retreat, Are you going to the mountains, the beach, or the lake?

Beach all day. Okay. All day long. Technically, I should go to the mountains. That's actually where I feel the most, like, I'm one of those people who should have no shoes on and just be walking through the grass. Like, when I do that, I am sure to be charged, although, you know, black folks will have my car for that, but that's okay.

Like, we'll let that run. But there's something about the sun and the sand, a good book in my hands. a good book in my hand for me that does it 10 out of 10 times. Okay. So speaking of book, what's one of your most favorite books that's changed the way that you lead?

The way that I read. Lead. Oh, lead. Lead, yep. Actually, there's a few. I'm an avid reader, Mick. So I probably go through 20, 30 books a year.

But one I recently read called Super Communicators, rocked me. I thought I was a great communicator until I read that book, so I highly recommend it. Do I get a 1A answer? Sure. I think it's called the Friction Project. The Friction, I'll Google it,

but I read that at the beginning of last year, because friction is what keeps a lot of us from getting where we need to go, and it teaches you how to get past it. Again, we're back to that chief parkour officer bit. So I'm always trying to smooth the way. Love it. I love it.

I love that a lot, too. All right. So why did you go to Duke and not UNC? Because I was smart. And I went to a school, frankly, where they wanted to push all the scholarship kids to go to the best schools they could. I didn't even know what Duke was when I applied. I had heard of it. I was going to Princeton, to be frank.

But when I got to Duke, I fell in love. I mean, which I know you can understand because you would have gone there too, friend. And that, during our visit, I walked on campus and I was like, I'm home. So that's why I ended up a dude. See, you should have visited Chapel Hill first, and then you would never look at Durham the same way. Your recruiter should have found me. I blame y'all. Well, you know, we do have an elite group of people, so I get it.

Everybody can't go to you and see more list. There we don't. Everybody can't go to you to see. All right. Last top five question. When the story of Marlissa Hudson is being told, what's one word that you want to make sure is in there? Indomitable. Hmm.

Like I have a spirit that cannot, will not, shall not be sobbed. Mm. let's get it yeah let's get it sorry if it wasn't out of the SAT word but I was trying to think of one word that like captured all of it yeah as Tar Hills

know what that word means it's okay it's okay I bet you do you do you make me snort don't call it I almost made it without snoring

Marlissa I love this like we totally have to do this again I think The Marlissa and Mick show featuring Marlissa needs to hit the road somewhere for sure. I would love it. And speaking of which, like, we didn't even get into the love piece of why we do what we do,

but I know for you and I, that's both a connector and a driving force. And for me, it's the currency of the world. So everything I do is steeped in, run by, and pulled through love. Yes.

Absolutely. So Marlissa, So tell the viewers and listeners where they can find and follow you. Absolutely. I mean, I'm at Marlissa Hudson on everything. So there aren't a lot of Marlissa's running around this earth. So you can find me on Instagram. That's probably the easiest place, LinkedIn.

My website is English-Hudson.com. Always email me if people have questions or want to learn more about what we do. I will make sure we have links to all of that. I'm going to start resharing and reposting some of your amazing articles and posts that you have on social because you are that important to me personally. And I think, again, you are that shoulder that a lot of people are standing on. And I need you to know that. I need you to.

I will be those shoulders for the next generation. We're going to make some change happen, Nick. Absolutely, we are. Absolutely. we are. To all the viewers and listeners, remember your because is your superpower. Go Unleash it. Thanks for tuning in to this episode of Mick Unplugged. If today hits you hard, then imagine what's next. Be sure to subscribe, rate, and share this with someone who needs it. And most of all, make a plan and take action. Because the next level is already waiting for you. Have a question or insight to share?

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