Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 015: Social Media & Anarchy

Episode Date: January 28, 2015

Technology is growing lightening fast. With this growth comes both tremendous opportunity and a dark side. In this episode Sal, Adam and Justin explore where the information age is taking us and how t...o take advantage of the opportunity it offers.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind, hop, mind, hop with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Alright, welcome back to Mind Pump Radio. I'm here with Salda Stefano, Justin Andrews. And shit's about to get raw. So, we got a couple things I think we'll definitely talk about, and some things that we probably have no clue that we're gonna talk about and You know one of the things I want to kick us off with since a lot of these people don't know that we all Are a bunch of big children and converse with each other all day long all the time via text message and
Starting point is 00:00:39 We're on a group text. Yeah, we're on a group text. I'm not forbid anybody ever find that three teenage girl Let me talk about group text for a second. It is the coolest and stupidest thing that's ever been in it. Because let me, those of you that are listening right now, if you guys, I don't know if every phone does, if it's just I, I'm sure Sam, Galaxy, all those other phones do the same thing, where you get a group text message where you and, you know, eight of your friends can all chime in. Now, here's the thing that's not fair and what I don't like about it is if you weren't the fool who started it, you're fucking trapped, dude. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:01:11 you're never getting out. You cannot, you can't opt out. And so I'm I happen to be in like three or three or church. I've got my, I've got my childhood best friends that we still communicate through Vietnam. All of us are connected when we talk. And then I have my fantasy football league. And then now I have you monkeys. And you know, sometimes these guys, two of these guys are, you know, going back and forth
Starting point is 00:01:31 till fucking one in the morning and I gotta get up in three hours and my phone. I like how your references to two people, like the two groups, my childhood friends, my fantasy football league friends. And you ask like, and then these fucking assholes that I assholes. But, you know, I love them. I actually learned so much from group texting. First of all, I feel connected to the people I'm on the group text with. So I feel like we don't ever not see each other, which is good and bad. I mean, sometimes, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:59 I definitely want to see you guys, you know, more often than we do. But then I learn a lot because we tend to, we talk shit and bullshit, probably 90% of the time, but the 10% of the time, we'll talk about good stuff. It's some good stuff that comes out of it. Oh, no. It's a peachy dish for a lot of the ideas and stuff to grow, right?
Starting point is 00:02:17 So you're kicking all this stuff out there and we're kind of throwing it out like even jokes or whatever it is and see who's gonna laugh and who's gonna be like, oh, I just just I just farted for anybody that knows me if I ever die something happens to me take my phone smash it don't ever look at this group text because I have to stuff I say it's just horrible it's the worst stuff I hit I mean if you don't know you you probably misinterpret a lot of it I'm sure people people would probably oh my because sarcasm doesn't really come through.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, they would come up with that font yet. And I keep talking about sarcasm. That's a great app right there, bro. A sarcasm app? Yeah, it's something that everyone did. I like the fact that sometimes people like, that you have to, that would just really say that
Starting point is 00:02:58 about Midgets. Why would you say that on a, I've never said anything. On, on a, incorrect. That's a politically correct. That's not the right way to say it. Yeah Yeah small small people try again smaller people little little person Little person. I apologize little people. No, so that's horrible. So wrong talking about that. Check this one out We know how to talk about technology and the whole group text message I
Starting point is 00:03:20 I have one for you and I know you you'll put Salah probably like nerd out on this one Justin So you're ready for us here. So what do you think is gonna happen to this generation that's coming up that's like, it's become, we're so connected, I see what it's turned me into and I've seen generation, the generation coming up, it's even worse. And I was, this is true story last week, I was sushi
Starting point is 00:03:44 and there's an outside patio and I'm here to walk in and I walk, this is true story. Last week I was sushi and there's an outside patio and I'm here ready to walk in and I walk past this family. It's a husband, a wife and two children. And the son has got an iPad out and it's on one of those kickstands and he's sitting there playing a video game. The daughter is watching like, you know, some Disney cartoon movie on her phone
Starting point is 00:04:01 and then both the parents are texting on their phone. So it's all, and literally everybody is staring at their phone and it's crazy. And texting on their phone, so that literally everybody is staring at their phone and it's crazy. And that, I mean, that to me, and I'm sure I've done that to my girl before and done that to friends before, I'm out of dinner and I've looked at my phone, because I'm thinking about all the stuff
Starting point is 00:04:13 I gotta get done or work or whatever like that, but you wonder like it's gonna be, right now it's so shocking, right? But it's gonna become, it's becoming more than norm. You know what I'm saying? What is it? I was gonna say, anytime something new comes out
Starting point is 00:04:26 that everybody embraces the people who grew up without it, always look at it and say, oh, that's horrible, that's bad. Like, when we were kids, if we watched a lot of TV, we'd get, oh, the boob tube and your brain will melt. And what's funny now? It's too close to it. Right, and what's funny now is my son will be on the internet watching YouTube videos, and I'll be like,
Starting point is 00:04:44 turn off the YouTube and watch TV I swear to God there's a difference Because to me TV I'm so familiar and I watch it when I was a kid and it's not bad or whatever But I mean the truth is that here's the truth about what's going on here with internet technology Are there some bad things with it sure of course, but throughout all of human history Anytime mankind and you're right, I'm about to nerd out. The anytime mankind made huge leaps in advancements, it came from increased access to information
Starting point is 00:05:14 and the ability to spread ideas. Every single time, whenever ideas were able to be spread, whether because of horseback, you know, things could get passed back and forth and when they built the first roads or... margins and smokestacks. Right, right. Ideas were passed back and forth because humans, you know, we're smart, not because yes, we are intelligent by ourselves, but the really what makes humans so intelligent is our ability to retain information that was learned from previous generations. And the fact that we can share that information. So like the last time, the last major
Starting point is 00:05:46 development for mankind was the Gutenberg printing press. The printing press was invented and all of a sudden the common man could get their hands on books. And before that, the only people with books were the nobles, was the church, they were the holders of information. Was it the monks who were the only ones that really wrote it down? It took thousands of hours. Yeah, they were the holders of information. Was this the monks were the only ones that really wrote, like wrote it down in the book? It took thousands of hours. Yeah, they had people on shifts, like writing over and over and writing everything.
Starting point is 00:06:11 And if you wanted to know, you know, God, why is this, you know, why is this sky blue or why, you know, do certain things happen, you'd have to go to these people who control the information. So advancements were much slower. All of a sudden boom, printing press was invented, and you have the Renaissance.
Starting point is 00:06:28 You have the scientific method. You have all those things that led up to the Industrial Revolution. The first best-selling book, when the printing press was invented, was the Bible, but the second, most popular book, was Marker Polo's Travels. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:43 And that was a book that told people about Asia, told people all these different places, and it opened people's minds. Well, the internet is that times a trillion. Because now all of a sudden, some dude in his basement who has a great idea can post it and everybody can listen to it. It could go viral within two days and it's spread everywhere. Right. And you think about how accessible it is. Like these third world countries people have cell phones. I mean, and they have access to the internet. They might not have running water. So the question is then, what do you think? No doubt, and I 100% agree with you that it's exciting. It's awesome. I mean, I joke all the time about how, God, I couldn't imagine if I had Wikipedia and a cell phone at my
Starting point is 00:07:27 Dispense going through school. Like you kids struggle to write a report. I used to read four books before I found the right one. Oh, using the Decimals, yeah, I don't I had to read four wrong books to get to the right book. So you could actually you don't say and find the right Information like there was so much harder to play. Oh, absolutely information like there was so much harder to play. Oh, absolutely. These kids know you just got to you get a Google you get Google and yeah, right there and even if maybe you're not even just copypaste even if you actually want to learn which is what I like to think I use it for now. If I have a question that's the first thing I do right away right away. I'm researching it. I'm looking at different different websites. I'm looking at different information. I'm putting gout and then
Starting point is 00:08:02 from all the different possibilities that you can reach from and learn from. Like instantaneously, you can become pretty knowledgeable about whatever that topic is that you're researching. Like almost instantaneously. Well, it used to be, it used to be where what was important was you were able to learn information and store it.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Okay. And yourself, like you wanted to be a smart person, you had to read books, you had to learn it and then be able to store it now It's changing all of a sudden now. It's you need to have the ability to find information and then report it and communicate it You don't need to know it. You need to be able to find it because it's so easy to find So it's a different it's a different world and what's interesting is you look at you know education Well the internet in general is the greatest
Starting point is 00:08:46 decentralizer of power that man has ever seen. It's decentralizing all power. You know, media, you wanted to get something on the news, you have to go to a major news station. Now you posted on YouTube, if it's like something from your cell phone, something crazy happened, everybody sees it. If you wanted to get into politics
Starting point is 00:09:03 and you wanted to promote yourself, you needed millions of dollars, you needed to partner with corporations and do all the shady shit. Now, you get a good message, you put it on the internet, millions of people can see it, you can have a lot of power. The future stars, the future communicators, the future celebrities, music, movies, education, all changing so rapidly that I think in 10 years, it's changing so fast that everything's gonna be so different in 10 years, so many things are gonna be unrecognizable, more things are gonna,
Starting point is 00:09:31 it's gonna be more advancements, the next 10 years are gonna advance faster than the previous 30. Well, I think you can tell it's compounding, you can see it in just in a short span time right now. So the question is though, there's no doubt, we know that's great, right? We keep talking about how great it is,
Starting point is 00:09:44 but what is it, what damage can it be doing, and what it doubt we know that's great, right? We keep talking about how great it is. But what is it? What damage can it be doing? And what it's going to do for like the social aspect? Because I think of the things that the qualities that you find in a leader, like somebody to lead, whether it be a company or a leading or if it's just leading your family or whatever it may be, the type of characteristics that make up a good leader. And you know, a big piece of that is the ability to show the way
Starting point is 00:10:06 to be able to gather people's attention, to be able to communicate information really well. Like, and if we are so dependent on this tool that does all this thinking and communicating for us, do our future CEOs and of these huge Fortune 500 companies are they gonna be like that? Are they gonna be these anti-social retards? That's really brilliant.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Well, that's what some people are worried about. But if you look at the internet, you look at technology, the most popular websites and apps are all social. All they do is make people connect better, not de-connect or disconnect. So think about Facebook, right? How many people do you keep in contact on Facebook
Starting point is 00:10:49 that you wouldn't even fucking talk to if Facebook didn't exist? Right, absolutely. So it actually increases communication to the 10th degree. The negative that I see from the internet is its ability to track every damn thing you do. And in the wrong hands, that's scary. Well, let's talk about privacy. I mean, do we really even have privacy anymore? Like, I've come to the conclusion that you just have to sort of let that go, let that concept go.
Starting point is 00:11:17 I mean, that's a big thing that has changed over the last couple of years, where you put something out, it's there forever. Like there's always going to be somebody that can store that, whether it's the cloud or whether it's on somebody's server or somebody's app that's trying to get your personal conversations, they're tracking and they're trying to gather as much information as they can about everybody in order to, in some sense, if you're looking at it in a positive way, they're trying to help narrow down like the demographics. So what they can actually promote as far as like products and, you know, like companies can utilize that information to give you stuff you're actually interested in. Which is good. Yeah, so that's a good thing. I don't want to
Starting point is 00:12:03 watch commercials for freaking tampons. I can give us. Right, and I think the other thing is that like people are scared of it and rightfully so, like it's a different, it's a paradigm shift, but at the same time, if you look at like how that can bring transparency towards other people in power, I like it. So I actually like the fact that, you know, something like Bitcoin is coming out of nowhere and you can track, you know, all of your payments, all of the like where it came from, like basically you can run a trail for, you know, how you use
Starting point is 00:12:41 it. So anybody that's using this electronic currency, you can then find out where they've been spending their money. So let's talk about politicians. You should explain Bitcoin for most people don't know what that is. Right, go ahead. I will show it to my stock. I'll try to explain it. I'll show it to Buts. I don't understand it my stock. I will try to explain it. I will try to explain it.
Starting point is 00:13:07 I don't understand it totally, but I will try to explain it. It's basically an online currency. The value of all currencies are based on two things. Number one, the trust that people put in it and then how much of it's out there, how accessible it is. If there is $10,000 in the world, then $1 will be worth so much money. If we double the amount of dollars out there, then it'll lose its value. So, that's how Bitcoin gets some of its value.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Apparently, there's some code that spits out so many new Bitcoins and eventually it'll slow down. And so, the value of Bitcoins always going to stay high. It'll never inflate it. They'll keep it, yeah, at a certain amount. So, that way it retains its value. And it's kind of like PayPal and steroids. You know, that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Kind of, but it's its own currency. Yeah, it's its own currency though. So it's like dollars, except it's something called Bitcoin. Yeah. The thing about it is Bitcoin was in the reason why people like it so much is because it's anonymous. You can buy drugs online, you can buy, and this is what people are doing.
Starting point is 00:14:04 This is why people are freaking out, is because they're buying all kinds of things on the black market online, because you don't wanna buy drugs online with a credit card, but you could do it with Bitcoin, and it's supposedly it's nontraceable. But it is traceable though. This goes right up your alley,
Starting point is 00:14:21 then you should love that for your whole free market. Yeah, man, it's how you're like this. Oh no, let me tell you Us you're reviewing too much about it. So you know us who us who are you know big supporters of free market decentralization We love Bitcoin. However, there's these interesting rumors that are out there that Bitcoin is actually created by a government agency Let's say like the CIA, to see where the big drug dealer is going. It's always gonna be a conspiracy. There's always a real idea.
Starting point is 00:14:49 The CIA goes around. The undermine, yeah. And it's always some drug dealer who thinks of the conspiracy. He's highest shit off his own stash. And he's like, you know what Bitcoin is? It's a more elaborate way to drag us. So, yeah, so I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:04 with the internet, you know, with the internet you have this incredible power to decentralize all powers, but you have this incredible power to track people and what they're doing. And here's something I'm gonna go really freaking far out. The conversation's about to get a little loopy and I promise you guys I'm totally sober.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I haven't dropped out. That's everything crazy. So, lay the knowledge. You know, so we're so connected, right, to the internet. It's only a matter of time before we can connect, because, okay, let me rewind. Movements happen very quickly now. So like the civil rights movement,
Starting point is 00:15:36 women's suffrage, these things took decades. Now you have, you know, six years ago, most Americans did not support gay marriage. As a matter of fact, if you were a politician running for office in 2008, or even 2012, and you openly supported gay marriage, you probably wouldn't get elected. Today, the opposite is now true.
Starting point is 00:15:59 The movement happens so fast, and it's because of the internet. That's the reason. Same thing with marijuana legalization, you know, 2008 Less it wasn't a majority of Americans that supported marijuana legalization today a majority of American support legalization And in fact, it's probably gonna happen eventually. So movements happen very fast again because ideas and people are connected so easily and so quickly So it's hard to push forward propaganda or whatnot. Now let's fast forward into the future.
Starting point is 00:16:29 It's only a matter of time before we make our ability to connect the internet even easier. Maybe in the future it gets to the point where you can think, where you can think and you can access the information in the internet. So it's an extension of your mind, Which means all humans will be connected through internet. So it's the hive mind. You've got it. I feel like we're connected. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:16:51 So this is great. We've talked about all the, I'm on that level of the transmission. All the show, the economic reasons that this is so great and everything like that. But what about, I mean, so would you, you would go to dinner? Adam's like the old, he's like the old, the old man in the, like, I don't know, guys. I just say, I like the old days when you would go to dinner and I was like the old he's like the old the old man in the I don't know guys I just I like the old days I Mean your spaghetti letters and do do that get you podium express right so don't get me wrong
Starting point is 00:17:16 I absolutely love love technology, but I also find like I have to still find a little bit of balance because I see the things of Kids getting playing video games so much they don't go outside and play. I see the parents with their children and I'm like, we're gonna change all that. And it connected to, connected to all these video games
Starting point is 00:17:35 and they're not talking to each other so the respect level that maybe the parents have. Maybe these kids become more respect, more characters that they know on YouTube. Big pop, if your dad's telling me this, but dad's not that popular. For this guy over here, he's got a million followers. He must know what he's talking about. I'm serious. You think I got a five or six year old thing like that.
Starting point is 00:17:54 And just as mom and dad start to lose power. I mean, so I think these are the same fears. I think that people have TV. Yeah. I don't know. I think that like, you know, obviously these are things that we think about as parents too, the generational thing where they have so much instant access to that and how people are really focused on the social media avenues to build their popularity. So it's just a popularity issue.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Well, let me give you guys a great example, right? When we were kids in school, and I'm going to date us right now, I don't think anybody knows our age, but I'm going to date us a little bit, we had to learn cursive, right? Why the fuck did we have to learn cursive? I'll tell you why because the older people are like you fuckers need to learn cursive. Just like I'm just like we tell our kids you need to learn how to look shit up and how about how about research you I'm sorry about research research and shit on on the microfeach. Yeah, I mean, I don't even know what the fuck. Come on. I don't remember that.
Starting point is 00:18:48 No, I've. I don't remember that. Are you old? Good. Yeah, let me go. Micro what? Microfeach. Microfeach.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Yeah, it's like this running like, you know, newspaper ads like, you know, like, oh, yes. And then you like scroll through and then you throw far. I mean, it's like learning type. We're not gonna have to learn how to type for a soon here. That'll be gone. Well, so Siri picks up everything I say. I'm gonna tell you. Well, so when we were kids, we had to learn cursive when they should have fucking taught us how to type.
Starting point is 00:19:14 That would have helped us way more going to school, right? So it's like us making our kids learn long division. Wow, so UK, right? Off of what you just said. So then take it to the next level. Do you should like learning how to navigate through your iPad and iPhone, be part of your fifth, six, seven, like part of your life?
Starting point is 00:19:32 Yes, actually, listen, here's the thing, I like it, dude. The world is advancing so fast. Kind of like a star tracking. Yeah, I think they should learn code. I mean, I was actually thinking about that. Why not with both of my sons, like, hey, let's get them in the code early.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Well, I think learning, you're just setting them up for his has to get kicked. Bro, are you kidding me? Yeah. What are you talking about? No, the nerd, the what we used to be nerds are. Clisten, you guys like you are not going to exist. Bro, trust me. We're dying.
Starting point is 00:19:58 What are we talked about? Oh, maybe we didn't talk about that. But we should. Cool, guys are dying. We're in Dying Bridge. Alpha male Dying Bridge. What will cover that in about that. But we should. Cool guys are dying. We're even we're in Dying Bridge. Alpha male Dying Bridge. What will we cover that in another episode? Yeah, we should.
Starting point is 00:20:07 But you know, it's, it's, things are advancing so fast that if we set our minds to what we need to teach our kids today, now, you know, five years from now, it's gonna be, it's gonna be obsolete. So I think there should be more freedom in what kids should learn. I see, I think kids should dictate
Starting point is 00:20:23 what they need, what they'd like to learn. That's a lot of absolute. And we facilitate it. Rather than giving them the structure of, you need to learn algebra one. And why? Why the fuck do I need to learn? The liberal arts degree, I think should just be
Starting point is 00:20:33 completely obsolete. Like you said, you should really find out like what makes them tick, like what their interests are. That's right. That's it. 100%. And then you use the tool, the amazing, powerful tool of the internet as a facilitator and have people there guide them to learn.
Starting point is 00:20:51 And what's going to end up happening? You're getting more specialized learning and kids are going to foster their talents rather than trying to force everybody into a box. Well, I got one for you then. Check this out. And I'm sure, I don't even know this, buddy. They want to you. And anybody who's listening, think about this for a second.
Starting point is 00:21:05 And I'm sure your parents or your mother or father have told you at one point in your life, when you were a child, they saw whatever strength that is probably present in you now, all the way back then. For example, for many years, I've led people, in any position that I've done with it, in any job I've done, I've always been in a leadership
Starting point is 00:21:25 role and it just came natural to me, you know. And my mom will tell me stories, there's video tapes of me when I'm like five years old, gathering all the neighborhood kids that matter if they were older, younger than me or with that, and telling them what to do, and not doing it in a dictatorship away, but I was always the kid who organized everything and my whole, yeah. Right. And, you know, and my mom used to say she knew, you know, back then that that's what I would do something in the life. So imagine we have the resources, the tools to be able to see that even at a young age. Imagine being taught like getting all the books that I read when I was in my 20s. Right. Stuff that you want to learn now. Yes. Because I learned that this is something, this is a strength of mine. But I didn't learn it was a strength of mine until growing up and getting older until you did a couple stuff that you want to learn now. Yes, because I learned that this is a strength of mine. But I didn't learn it was a strength of mine
Starting point is 00:22:06 until growing up and getting older. So you did a couple jobs that you didn't manualabor. Not this is much of a doing stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? I've welded driven tractors. I've done all kinds of crazy stuff and construction and did all these different things, right? And, you know, and I definitely think I'm a positive person.
Starting point is 00:22:24 So I've learned to find what I've liked in all of it, but my true passion came when I started to lead people and I started to learn that. I had to teach myself that that's what my passion was, and then really start to foster that and grow and educate there, which didn't really start until my 20s. Imagine if I was getting fed that information
Starting point is 00:22:42 in my youth and into my teenage years like well What's the what's the statistic about billionaires? How many of them have gone to college? It's something like very few Oh, it's like 20% yeah, it's something like it's very very few And that's because again school I think is designed for that middle ground But if you're anywhere outside of that is designed to produce professors. Yeah, very good And in worker bees And worker bees. Yeah, right. For corporations.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Here's something funny. For decades now, countries like China have kicked our ass in school and test scores. And yet, who's the biggest innovator? Who innovates the most? We do. We do. So you get good grades, and look, I'm not knocking
Starting point is 00:23:19 if you're one of those people, that's cool. But you get good grades, you follow the rules, you do the system, whatever, you're going to work for someone who's the outside the box thing. Just an elaborate on professors. I agree That's how I feel too like you mean when you say that like what what comes to mind like that's well As far as like you know the actual dogma of like you going through the the system of okay Now you're gonna learn this and then you're gonna specialize specialize in this particular sort of degree. Degree, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:46 So the degree, you just learn that degree to the point where you do your thesis and then you master your thesis, then you get your doctorate in that and then where do you do with it? You become a professor or you pay a shit ton of student loans back and then try and figure out, okay, like who's going to hire me? I'm too educated. You're either too educated or you're gonna be a professor somewhere. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And look at the cost, and here's the thing, this is why I know education is going to be so different in 10 years. The cost of education is so fucking expensive. You go to a class that charged you $200 for a book in the age of the internet. You could stream that fucking thing to my phone or my iPad for two cents, and you're gonna charge me 200 hours for a book. And I have to send the bathroom. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:24:30 It doesn't make any fucking sense. I'm gonna get- Oh, it'll change, bro. You're right. You learn more from Ted Talks now, then. I seriously learn more from Ted Talks than I did at my, from my professors. Well, you're called.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Here's what's funny. I train a lot of very educated professionals and they always ask me, wow, Sal, where'd you get your education? Where did you learn? I'm like Santa Teresa high school. Like I have no formal education. I love to tell people that I didn't finish.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I went a little further. I mean, I took a little over two years of college, but it took your far more educated guy. You're the G. I should know too, but it's like, more educated. You're the genius. I should know too, but it's like, Oh, you are. But I remember. It's like having the accolades.
Starting point is 00:25:09 A lot of people like to have this title and present themselves in such a way. But I do, I went through the system. I got my degree, all this kind of stuff. And really, it wasn't until I got away from that that I started to research shit on my, you know, on my own and really start to like digest everything and see, okay, like, wow, like I can use this and learn for myself and find my own passions and like, it wasn't until I took full ownership myself where I actually started learning.
Starting point is 00:25:43 It's crazy. I like digested a lot of it in school, but like, you know, you don't even really, I'm like, what am I gonna do with this? I'll tell you one that's funny is that when I remember, I remember this, it's crazy, it's one of those memories that just stand out. You know, I have those just random stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:25:58 Forget, I forgot what happened the day before and the day after, but I can remember going to college and my first day of classes and everything and just I was excited. I was ready for this like new venture in my life and that this is like high school is this high school and junior high is just junior high like now I'm a man, right? And when you're young you can't wait to grow up and be a man and you know this at this point in my life I'm about I'm going to learn about what I'm going to do the rest of my life like that's I'm like going in
Starting point is 00:26:26 with these expectations of like college is going to mold me really change me which I'm sure there's some people out there would say it would but I'd tell you what after going to sit in through all my classes for the day and at the end of the day going like fuck that's just like high school wait a second it just was perk it's just yeah I, I don't have to show up now. The teacher pretty much made that clear. And it sounds like I had to go purchase my books. Okay, that's different.
Starting point is 00:26:52 And it sounds like if I really want to not do all the like in the between work, I can just come for the test and see if I can pass this class without. And that's Lily was became my attitude like the first year and a half years. Like how little can I go and get past all this shit? Yeah, that was like it was like my mentality like that's horrible. I'm like, let me show how you know how smart I could be like, I don't need to go to class every day.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Well, see one of the reasons it's such and one of the reasons why college is so expensive. Actually, one of the main reasons is we've sold this idea that you have to go. So everybody feels they have to go to college. And then because it's so sold that you have to go, So everybody feels they have to go to college. And then because it's so sold that you have to go, you get easy money to go to college. So getting a grant or getting a loan student loan in particular is very easy to go to college. So as a result, if you're a university and you've got all these students applying and money's no object, because the government continues making easier and easier to get loans, you're building
Starting point is 00:27:43 $5 million stadiums, you're building these huge gyms, these huge auditoriums. Now it's $100,000 for a four-year degree at a private college. This is one of the reasons. If they removed that, you know what would happen. You'd see free market takeover and you'd see other alternatives. You would go to a bank and say, I want a loan for school and they'd say, well, what's your degree going to be? And you're like, women's studies and they're like, you're not getting a loan.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Because you're not going to be able to pay us back. You see what I'm saying? So that's why college has gotten so, one of the reasons why it's gotten so goddamn expensive when we should have things like vocational schools. You know, why it isn't a company, and this is going to happen, I'm sure companies like Apple and Cisco and some of these
Starting point is 00:28:20 big tech companies are going to say, hey, high school students, come here, learn with us for a year, and then we'll give you this certificate, and maybe it'll work for us, maybe it won't, but we'll teach you a bunch of stuff, and it's only going to cost this much, and it's going to be much more specific, and it's going to be so much cheaper, or online universities, which are going to be... That's going to happen. ...put a pass on like Google or Apple, the already...
Starting point is 00:28:37 It's going to happen. It's going to happen. Yeah, it's going to happen. We have the student loan bubble, which is about to burst, which could, you know, cripple as it'll, it'll, it's something in the hundreds of millions of all these people can't pay back their loans What do you think? Okay, on along those lines? What do you think are like the maybe three Top professions to be a part of like today or like in the future as far as like, you know If you're gonna if you're gonna learn something
Starting point is 00:29:01 You know what are probably the most profitable ways to go well profitable I think number, you got to do something you enjoy because then you'll be good at it. But if you're just looking straight at the industries, you have technology, health services, because the aging population, patrolling and engineering right now is exploding with things like fracking and stuff like that. Probably environmental sciences because of all the stuff that goes into, you know, what's happening right now with the environment. Those are the ones I can think about, but anything in tech, yeah. But then again, tech is making other industries explode as well. So like you look at like taxi, you know, taxi cars,
Starting point is 00:29:38 you're like, well, how much money can they make? Boom, Uber comes in. Now Uber, and it's gonna be a value that like $40, $50 billion, you know, because it's insane. Well, you like 40 50 billion dollars you know because That's insane. Well, well you're on to that already. Well, no it hasn't grown that much But they're but they're trying to now I might be wrong But I believe they just they've working with goldmins right now and they might be getting Going IPO goldmins. Yeah, and they're in the valuation will be probably around 50 to 100 billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:30:06 So, and I might be incorrect. I got this off of my cousin who are financial advisors. I'm not very much of an advisor, but... And you know how they all got started, right? It was this whole concept of fast-moving technology. So they basically overpowered that entire industry because they moved so fast that they couldn't regulate it. That's right.
Starting point is 00:30:26 And so this is kind of the trend within all the tech companies and all these people coming through is like, let's innovate this one section of the market. Let's do it so fast that they can't regulate it. Well, that's free market, power free market. That's actually anarchy. I like to see it. I want to see that in other
Starting point is 00:30:45 industries. Bring it. Yeah. Do it. Yeah. Anarchy. We'll end it on that. Anarchy. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump. For more information about this show and to get valuable free resources from Sal Adam and Justin, visit us at www.mindpumpradio.com. Until next time, this is Mind Pump. at www.minepompradio.com. Until next time, this is Mind Pump.

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