Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 016: Alternative Medicine, Carbs, Muscle Memory, Overtraining & More

Episode Date: January 30, 2015

We posted a request for listener questions on Instagram (@mindpump) and you responded in force. In fact, we received so many questions that we couldn't begin to answer them all. So here is the first round of many more Q & A Friday episodes to come. If your question didn't make this episode, then just keep listening. We are bound to get to it in a future broadcast.

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Welcome to Mind Pump. This is the fitness comedy show that everybody's listening to. Who the hell is funny? I don't know, but everybody's listening. Listen, I fucking thought of, I literally thought about that intro. I was preparing it and then you just ruined it again. You're not free.

I'm not. It doesn't have any. Every single time. You're not that free. Who's the funny one here? Something's funny. Doug. Doug's hilarious.

Yeah. Doug's the funny guy. He's hilarious. Doug, you're the funny one. Thank you. Welcome to Mind Pump, the funny Doug show. Alright, so we're going to answer some questions today. We went on our Instagram page at Mind Pump, a funny Doug show. All right, so we're gonna answer some questions today. We went on our Instagram page at Mind Pump

and we're gonna go through the list. We'll start with the first one. How do you guys feel about that? Go with the first one here. Yeah, whatever, let's roll it. Let's roll it. So this was asked by one of our followers, SF Girl Bariqua, or Bariqua.

I know who that is. That's Sandra. I know who you know, I know who you know that is, but let's not call her out too much. So her question is. Anonymous. Her question is, do you guys have any opinions on so-called natural health remedies?

Oh, that's all you, bro. So natural health remedies. She would probably be referring to like alternative type medicine, alternative health medicine, herbs, stuff like that. Yeah, and probably, I think she, did she go on, did she, did she, She talked about black stress,

molasses. molasses and also, I, I, And this is not my world, I've just never been, my girl is big in doing all, you know, when I get sick, she comes out with like all this, I'm taking mushroom shit and I'm doing all kinds of You're taking shrooms when you get to the

Like remedies, like, Yeah, all these crazy remedies ailments of every kind yeah and um you think you know ground up yak bones and yeah and I agree I think the alternative medicine is is always the the better route if you can go that well I'll tell you what well I mean doesn't doesn't modern medicine have its roots out of, well, here's a thing.

Alternative medicine to some degree. It absolutely, all medicine was alternative medicine. Right. If you go back far enough. But Western medicine is superior in treating acute conditions. Okay, you get a gunshot wound, you break your leg, you get an infection, something acute happens. You want to go to your Western medicine doctor to take antibiotics, to get your medicine,

to control the emergency situations. Alternative medicine, now not all of it's the same, sorry ladies and gentlemen, there's a lot of bullshit out there, even in the natural world. Don't forget that's an industry just like any other industry, but the When it comes to alternative medicine for preventative care for long-term health It's it can be pretty amazing and here's one of the things that I like to tell people about when it comes to things like herbs and plants when you're using those instead of medicines Plants tend to have their own natural safety mechanisms built in so let me explain it's much easier to overdose

on caffeine powder than it is on eating coffee beans, right? Coffee beans contain caffeine in them also. But you have to eat a shit to them. You have to eat a shit to them. But if I gave you pure caffeine powder, one tablespoon would send you to the hospital. That's a really good point. That's a very good point. That's what almost probably anything you could think of. Almost anything. So you look at aspirin. Yeah. aspir point. That's a very good point. That's with almost probably anything you could think of. Almost anything. So you look at aspirin. Yeah, aspirin was taken from white willow bark. You could eat bark off a white willow tree and you're going to get some aspirin, but it's

going to be hard to overdose on it. Yeah, the whole tree probably. Right, whereas ass will bottle aspirin. Right, whereas ass will be harmful to your liver and your kidneys and everything else. Yeah, and it's processing it. It's just that they extract one active ingredient that they find that's modern science is found to have the most Inpack measurable results and they concentrate the shed of it and that's west that's western medicine. Yes Concentrated. Yeah, thank you

And one thing I love about alternative medicine is it does tend to look at the body as a whole right So when you go to it alternative medicine doctor, they'll ask you questions that your western medicine doctor won't ask you Yeah, how's your sleep? How are you eating, you know, what does your exercise look like? There reminds me of, have you heard of functional medicine? No. Okay, so functional medicine is basically along those lines of alternative medicine, where it's an emerging practice. And one of the guys, Dr. Mark Heimann, I believe his name is, which is an unfortunate name for him, but either way, he's a sort of revolutionary and pioneering in this sort of medical field, where they basically look at the environment. So they look at more causation as far as the

actual illness. So they trace back to whether it has to be, you know, it's some sort of toxicity, whether it's, you know, some sort of thing that, you know, it's nutrition. It's other things that are affecting your body. Outside of, you know, the actual condition that you're experiencing. Well, in a lot of situations with Western medicine, for example, autoimmune diseases, Well, in a lot of situations with Western medicine, for example autoimmune diseases, they Western medicine treats the symptoms. So if you go in and you have an autoimmune disease, let's say you have, I don't know, crones,

for example, they want to treat the symptoms, which is massive inflammation, so they'll give you steroids, they'll give you certain drugs to depress the immune system, but they don't know how to treat the, what's the cause? What's the root cause of it? What's the root cause? Which sometimes the root cause of it? What's the root cause? Which sometimes the root cause is not one thing. It's like this whole combination of things.

And so I think they almost have to mind-map it. Yeah, right. So they plant like where do you live? What are the toxicities locally? And what are you eating, how your bodies responding to that? All these different factors, they all play into the illness. And there is some science behind the stuff. Actually, Germany has a commission E, which is a state-funded part of their healthcare

program that specifically studies herbs to see what their effects are. So if you're looking for studies to support using herbs, you can look at the commission E study. So they're the ones that said things like, you know look at the commissiony studies. So they're the ones that said things like, like St. John's Whart helps with low levels of depression or salt pole metal can help with benign prostate enlargement. You know, like, like, ginseng and stuff like that.

Yeah, all that stuff, right? So they do a good job with that. And I have some experience with it. I've had things like acupuncture and I've had good experience. The only thing is with the explain it, I'm a science guy, I'm an, you know, and when they explain things like your Chinese energy and, you know, she and the shakras or oras or my my brain just goes, oh, no, I'm not saying it doesn't work because I've experienced it and and look, even your American health insurance will cover acupuncture for

certain cases because in certain cases it's been proven to work. However, the Chinese concepts, in terms that they use, don't, doesn't jive with modern science. Well, it's crazy because, I mean, personally, too, I know some clients that have benefited from acupuncture and just the overall concept of it is fascinating to me. I never have, I haven't done it personally, so I can't really speak firsthand from it, but I know that it's just an interesting thing when you start to to find these sort of points along your body, whether the trigger points or whatever they call them, and then they sort of cross wire the firing.

Yeah, right? Well, we have the concept. It is. Well, you know about referred pain, right? So if you have pain in one part of your body, it could mean that your kidneys are bad, or this is metastasis. That's so trippy though, they'll associate it up in your neck somewhere

down to like your ankle. Right, but even modern medicine is proven that. Like you get, like what happened, like we all know with a heart attack, your left arm or your upper back or hurt, they know that certain parts of, you know, if you have certain pain somewhere,

it could mean that your kidneys are bad. So it's not necessarily over the area of the problem. And so that referred pain, I think it's connected, I think the acupuncture works along those same lines. So alternative medicine, I like it, I just wish there was more science that went into it. Unfortunately, there's not much funding because you can't patent plants.

Well, they don't like, yeah, I mean, modern medicine isn't gonna agree well with. There's no funding, that's basically it. But I like it. Well, I think at the end of the day, one thing that we can all agree on is that if you have the opportunity to go that route and you can handle going there, always go that route, you know, there isn't a need. You don't have to use a modern medicine for really anything.

So if you have the ability to do that and you can see some sort of benefits from it, then absolutely go for that. I mean, quite frankly, for me, when, you it then absolutely go for that. I mean quite frankly for me when You know like for example, I just I know some people are this way But like when I went through my whole surgery with my ACO I mean I used I used like in that use hydrocoding I used that and I know it's not good for my system. It's terrible, but you know unfortunately Mushrooms didn't frickin get me You're not talking about yeah, would you say mushroom? You're not talking about psychoactive but unfortunately mushrooms didn't freaking get me.

You're not talking about, would you say mushrooms talking about psychoactive? You didn't do like, side-o-side-o-side-o-roos. Talked to the pink elephant, did you feel that? So, I mean, like I said, at that point, that might have helped. Anytime you can use something El Natural, always go that way, we're out for sure.

I think we talked in some other episodes. Most times, yeah, most times. And I'll give you a good example. We were raised when you had a cough, our moms would give us honey, right? Remember to have a little honey and some tea? I always raised it, you know, you had to be cupped after you caught it.

You mean, turn your head and cough? Yeah, exactly. Oh my God, we're gonna turn it down. Damn, that joke. Offline, I'll take it to the next story. I'm not gonna remind you that. So, so, so now what they find is when you eat honey, it actually affects a certain part of the brain

that gives you that cough reflex. And so it is effective. So they were right the whole time. So science supports it now. All right, so you guys wanna go into another question here? You wanna go down the list? I'm gonna, why don't you take the next one here, bro? So I just did that one there.

And I don't know if you wanna go into that or if you wanna go into that. What is this from Trevor? So I just did that one there. And I don't know if you want to go into that or if you want to go into that. What is this from Trevor? Trevor, what are your thoughts on the car back loading protocol by Kiefer? Big fan of his and also your show. Thanks for, you know who this is?

You know who Kiefer is? No. He's a boot pro radio. Okay. That's what I was trying to show Justin. That's how I was totally distracting. He's number one podcast. He is fitness.

We're coming after you. We're head hunting. Boba, Boba, Boba, Boba totally distracting number one podcast is fitness. We're coming after Bro head hunting Here we come. We're gonna be he's got a lot of really qualified and great, you know, I love the guy He's smart as people on his show. I mean, he's he's got a lot of imagine how good he would be if he was entertaining No, I'm serious. He's a fucking smart or the opposite way Yeah, I know we know listeners if you want to go that route and you just want to get something that's like very like on point scientific

all the way through and like dry. Well, let me before we get to, before we suck them off- That's something like that. Before we, I'm, let me interrupt your hand job real quick. Let me interrupt your hand job real quick. I'm not, I'm not.

I'm gonna say there's other podcasts out there that'll do a great job at educating you like exclusively because I just happen to be fishing around his what page just now just to see you know because I have actually not read his back loading carb theory. So I Trevor is that who asked Trevor yeah. Okay so Trevor I can't yet speak in total detail of his, but his protocol, although I have done a carb-backloading, frontloading, cycling, you name it, I've done it as far as dieting goes. And I'm a huge fan of it. But one thing that you'll learn from me or you'll hear from me is, I am not a fan of any

one way of always eating. So you're all biochemically diverse. Yes, so I like to do all these different things to one, not only see what works well for you, but what works well for you that you can consistently maintain and is realistic for your lifestyle. And you know, if back loading works well for you, then that's great.

I mean, in the day, if you eat 300 grams of carbohydrates, 300 grams of carbohydrates spread out evenly all day, or over one or two meals, like Sal does, is all really the same thing. Your body needs it, it's going to utilize it. Now, we're most articles, which I'm guessing without reading his, so I don't want to attack his without reading it, I will first, but when they preach to one way of diet dieting or like, oh, this is the new answer because of the new revolution new science that just came out on this, well, that's a crack of shit. I mean, though this the science is on on how our body utilizes and burn fats has been around for a really long time and it's not it's not like this is new science.

All there is benefits for you backloading something If you're back loading or front loading, that means there, and this goes to like, Sal's way of eating, is you're creating these long periods of time where you're not eating carbohydrates, you're not feeling the body with any of its, because your glycogen levels are completely depleted. And then what it does is it forces your body to utilize fat as its primary source of fuel.

So that is a benefit of doing that. And then when you get your, so your back loading meaning that you're gonna eat all your carbohydrates post workout. So you get a hard workout in. And the theory behind going into a workout depleted not is you get the spike of growth hormones. You get this surge of energy that you wouldn't think

you would get because you're depleted. And some people that are big fasters like this. So if you're an intermittent fasting person, they will attest to the same benefits also of getting the surge of energy, even though they're depleted on fuel. So you get that from it. And then your body, you just, you just hit all these, we put it through the stressing of working out, it is just waiting to absorb and taking all these nutrients. And so then you

backload. So this is where you start. Now you're allowed to eat all these carbohydrates that your body has been dying to get. So it's like you get the benefits of fat burning before because of all the time that you're going without eating the carbohydrates. And then you get the spike of growth hormone production and energy that most people feel from their workouts. And then on top of that,

now you're gonna get this huge load afterwards that your body's gonna utilize for good use. So. Excellent answer, my friend. Alright so another question. This was actually pretty a great question for me. Shit, I just lost it. Okay.

The question is, someone was asking, let's see, we talked about that. There was one about muscle memory. I'm trying to find the guy. It's Johnny, it's on the very bottom. What's his name? Johnny. There he is. No, it's not.

Philippe Jason. Oh, Jason. So, Philippe Jason says, muscle memory, what is it? How long has it last? What's muscle reaction? The question was, we're going to have to have a lot of time. So first of all, let's explain what we, in muscle building, what we refer to as muscle memory. So, just muscle memory, meaning like at my, at remember stories, it remembers.

What does that mean? It's like an elephant, bro. If your muscles can tell stories, man. Tell me what exactly that means. You're on the shrooms we were talking about earlier. What is muscle memory? So in sports muscle memory means you have a particular movement memorized where you don't have to think about it.

Like you're swinging a bat or a golf club. And muscle building muscle memory refers to when you stop working out and you lose muscle. And then you work out again and you gain it back. However, the second time around it comes back much faster than it did in the first time. And so if any of you have ever taken a break from your workouts, you've probably experienced that where you lost muscle, came back and it just came back so much faster than the first time around. And so there is there is some theories. There are some theories behind this. And it's a real phenomenon. We've all experienced it.

So what really does fucking happen, I've done that where it took me forever to gain 10 pounds of muscle. I got sick or injured, lost it, went working out again. Boom, it comes back like, you know, in one third of the time it took the first time. So, and I know you guys have experienced the same thing before. Oh yeah. So there is some theories behind it.

One theory, or one part of it is the neural muscular connections that the brain and the central nervous system make to control those pathways that your brain is created for these muscles to be stronger and to fire harder, take much longer to go away, or those pathways never really go away. And so when you go back to working out, you don't have to go through all that central nervous system adaptation, like you did the first time. You just have to get

the muscles to catch up. There's something else, though. There's some other cool science. So muscle fibers have satellite cells. Now without getting too technical, satellite cells, one of the things that satellite cells control is muscle growth. And as muscles grow, you increase the number of satellite cells within muscles because there's more control centers to help these muscles grow. When the muscles atrophy or shrink, satellite cells don't go away. So when you go lift weights again, you've got all these satellite cells that you built the first time and they contribute to the accelerated muscle growth second time around. So that's another piece that they're kind of looking at. But other than that, we really don't quite know

what's going on. The real reason might be behind it. We have some strong theories, but that's pretty much it. However, it is a real phenomenon. Anyone who's ever taken time off and worked out knows you just get back so much faster the second time around. Which I think the takeaway from that is that's where you just don't let yourself get discouraged.

I think that's really common as somebody starts working out and they get sick or you know things happen and they fall off. And then a lot of people just throw their hands up and say, oh, I lost all those games. You know, you'll bounce back. Yeah, you'll bounce back and you'll bounce back faster than what it took you like you said. Faster than what it took you to get there in the first place. And that's compounding. It just gets that way.

I was just talking to a friend about this the other day is that, you know, it's neat. Like now that I've gotten in this whole competing thing and I've got myself to this new level of fitness, now what I would consider my out of shape level is extremely better shape than what I was when I was out of shape two years ago. So it just continues to get better. A lot of it is just consisting between the time in. And so if you if you do fall off the muscle memory thing, although we don't know the exact science to exactly why it works, but the phenomenon is real. It does work. It is real. It will happen. So

don't get discouraged just because you fell off a bit, get back on the horse, and I promise you'll be back there in no time. Good. Yeah. Good. So Doug, how are we doing on time? Because I got some more questions here. I wanna answer. I'm tired of it. Oh, beautiful. Okay, so I got another one. This is a good one.

This is really good. This one's asked by, I can even pronounce this, Ephraim Rabbit O5. Ephraim Rabbit O5 is asking, is overworking a real thing? Oh, great question. At what point am I doing too much? And he's basically saying, he's reached this point, but why are bodybuilders able to lift so often? And he's saying,

is it because of steroids? Because of steroids. So without touching that yet, let's talk about the first part. Is overworking, overworking a real overtrain. It's over-training. I'm absolutely. Well, let's define overtraining. Yeah. Because there is a true definition of overtraining. And it's not what you think it is. I think a lot of people think overtraining means you're burning yourself out. But that's not, you hit a point of diminishing your turn. That's not the true definition. The true definition of overtraining is doing more

than is necessary to elicit change in your body to get to the goal that you want. Anything over that is overtraining. You've done more than you need to. Well, if that's the case, then we could detect almost everybody out there. Who's a... Yeah.

Now, go ahead. This, I mean, this is right in my wheelhouse because this is what I preach to all day long is that doing as little as possible to get the maximum amount of results. I think so many people get caught up in the, who's pressing what, who's doing this, who's faster at this and you know push push

Be smooth this everything you see is all about going hard as you pause again like I pride myself On going into doing as little as I can to see my now mind you of course I say that right and I think everybody thinks that he probably turns like a pussy like no come work out with me I said I train pretty hard. I but I've been training consistently for several years now without much of a break. So I've worked up to that level in order for me to continue to see my body progressing. Had I started at training this way,

because I could have, I could have beat the hell myself and pushed myself to this level right now to get there. It's like, so I just, you guys know, I just came off of being really sick. So I was only out for, I don't know, two weeks. Two weeks I was out. I've been off the diet for about three weeks. When I say off the diet, it's not like I'm eating terrible all the time, but I'm allowing

things in my diet that I normally wouldn't. So when I got back, I mean, my body was pretty reset. So first day back, I'm back to balancing my meals all out. Everything's clean. I'm counting my macronutrients that I'm in taking, and my weight routine was extremely simple in comparison as far as the intensity and the volume that I think it was. I scaled it back like where I was maybe,

I don't know, six months to a year ago, maybe before that, and I was sore everywhere, and I didn't need it. And you bounced back pretty quick. Oh yeah, and I've already seen, in the last two weeks already, myself start to get back to where I was. So you're back pretty quick. Oh, yeah, and I've already seen in the last two weeks already myself start to get back to where I was So you're touching on something interesting here. I want to ask Justin this because just because a lot of experience working with athletes Can your threshold for work?

Is that a is that something set or is that moved? Does that change as you as you become more fit? Right, so this is something that I like to address it more on a very gradual incline. So like Adam was saying to some degree, like we like establishing the actual fundamental patterns of movement and strength on a very gradual scale. So I want to make sure that my trajectory is it's all going on the steady gradual line. So I wanna make sure that my trajectory is, it's all going on the steady gradual line. So I'm not hitting all these huge peaks and valleys along the way. So as far as like overtraining,

there's a point where you're gonna take your athlete to a point where you need to see, like you need to test out and you need to max, right? And that's something that, you know, it's a part of training, especially athletes, because athletes, it's all based off of performance. And so you need measures along the way.

But that's, I attribute that more towards, that's a specific day where I've planned out, this is the day that we're going on a high intensity level. And so like, it's more of an intermittent fluctuation of intensity. So I take them, I gradually take them up to a peak, we test it out, back down a little bit. Back down a little bit, we gradually make our way up into the next level. It's almost like a step. It's a very gradual set.

Yeah, so that sort of step in the middle is where we're testing. Well, you know, one thing I've noticed, even with myself, is, and I've noticed that all my clients is when people, well, first off, let's back up a little bit. When people think about overtraining, they think about people working out too long or too often. But I have found that intensity,

it's easier to overtrain with intensity than it is with frequency and volume. Yeah, absolutely. Because I can take a complete beginner client I can take seven-year-old Mrs. Jones who's never worked out before and I can train her every single day with the right intensity and Should be okay or I can hammer the shit out of her legs for one hour and I'll send her the hospital Oh, yeah, so and so so for all of you guys who think that that overtraining comes from working out too much or too long or talk, can it happen from there, yes, but it's more likely than it happened to the average gym rat from working out. From higher intensity.

From working out for next part. That's such a great point right there. Exactly. And this, and I'm gonna pick you back off that a bit because it brings up another point that we talk. I have said this before, so I'll pick a body part that I'm focusing on, chest, shoulders, whatever it is that I'm trying to develop. And I'm gonna train the shit out of it.

It's gonna get trained at least three times in a week. And so on else might think, God, that's overtraining, right? Aren't you overtraining? But it's the intensity level that I'm manipulating during those three times That is extremely important right cuz one workout might be hard But you two might be like one of them is always gonna be a really heavy

Power day that I'm gonna do to really really hit hit because it was embodying needs to be tested Yeah, so I'm gonna have one day at that and then the other day is gonna be more hypertrophy and endurance And it's really gonna go off of how I feel if I if I feel still sore from my power day It's gonna be very very very light in minimum And it's really gonna go off of how I feel. If I feel still sore from my power day, it's gonna be very, very, very light in minimum. I'm just gonna get in there and I'm gonna move weights. And you've talked about this salad before, but there's a difference between recovery and adaptation

and some of that, what's going on with the body. Like, you know, just because you're still sore, doesn't mean you don't necessarily move it again, but then at the same time too, just because you train super hard all the time, doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna get more gains from that either? No, I mean your body's going to start prioritizing recovery. Yeah, true adaptation doesn't even happen until your X amount of hours

in under the iron or X amount of hours in under that same movement pattern. So it really takes a long period of time before your body fully gets to that level where you apply that strength and that's something that it's going to have a muscle memory towards. Well, what's crazy is this exact, this one concept that we're talking about, is one thing that we understand very well because we've been doing this for so long and trained so many people. And by the way, if you're a trainer and you train lots of people, you will learn more about

exercise and yourself training a lot of people than you ever will work in at yourself. Because then you see trends and you see what works and you train thousands of people and this is how we figured this out. This was actually one of the core concepts of my MAP Santa Ballet program was understanding the difference between frequency and intensity and how important frequency is

if you manipulate intensity properly and how you can get more work in without hitting that point where your body stops adapting and just wants to recover. So I think with overtraining is concerned, aside from what I said earlier where you do anything over what you need to adapt, your body has the ability to increase its ability to handle this workload. So if you work out your muscle groups, you train your whole body, let's say twice a week, you do that. Look, look, our producer Doug, he was my client

before. We now we work out together sometimes. When we first started working out, I train him twice a week. Two days a week, he lifted a whole body and he got great results. Now Doug works out his whole body three days a week. His ability to handle more load, more frequency has increased. So your ability to handle work changes as you continue exercising. But overdoing intensity is much easier than you think. It really is. And once again, to pick you back, I'll start you down to your job. You're also setting yourself up for a huge hill to climb later on. So if you come out the gates and... Yeah, where do you go from there?

Let's say, for example, let's take a modality, like how about CrossFit? So they do, they have this intense way of training when they start, which is great and all, right? Quick results from it, because your intensity level is insane. But to continue seeing change in your physique from that, you know, months and years down the road from that.

That's the last thing that you really want to utilize is that intensity. There's so many things you can manipulate with sets and reps and volume, and then before you're going balls to the wall, max volume, everything, because at that point you're at a time, you're at an inner chest. You're at an inner chest.

Cut increase intensity. Yeah, there's so many, there's so many. Increased load of weight. Yeah, excellent, excellent. And just to, you know, last, I guess crazy. Before we move to the next subject or next question, I hate this term right here. There's no such thing as overtraining.

There's only under-eating. Have you guys ever heard that before? No. Oh, it drives me fucking crazy. No. Yes, I've heard bodybuilders say that. No, no. You're not overtraining, you're just under-eating're just under the same based off of like the energy you're consuming basically train harder and expand X amount

Yeah, I don't you get fat in their defense before we move on because I of course always come to the rescue of our bodybuilder buddies Oh, no, I'm here to save the day for you guys In their defense the I think even though you man keen you man, Keeney's. Yeah, right. The idea of overtraining it is, I mean, when Sal put it the way he did, it was very important that he said it. So I don't want him to get confused here because, like I said, you could train chest four days a week.

If you want to build your chest and you want to see change in it, you could do that. You could train it four days a week, but it's very key to how you train it in order to do that. And that goes back to what Sal was saying about, you know, your intensity levels, because there's a difference between that. And you're not going to over, it's really, really hard to technically over train the body to where it's going to have an adverse effect. It's not going to have an adverse fit. You're just setting yourself

up for more challenges. And there's no need to go to that point. And therefore, you can consider 90% of the people in the gym probably over training because they're doing more than they need to to elicit change. Spinning their wheels. Exactly. Spinning their wheels. Alright, so one another question here. Actually, it's from the same guy. This is a kind of a cool question. What, okay, so what's the effect of alcohol and drugs on the body and what can we do to minimize any effects and try and stay fit? So I think alcohol is the devil. Yeah, I think he's what I think what he's asking is if you're gonna

If you're gonna party how can I keep it while I party is he asking for suggestions? Yeah, I don't know are we gonna review drugs on this show? Yeah, I, uh, this show is going to get really fun. Oh, shit. So this week on Mind and Pup, we're reviewing ass- Don't ever leave deadlifts on heroin. We just took two hits of acid at the beginning of the show. Let's see how it develops. So, um, okay, let's talk about alcohol since that's the most common, that's the most common

substance. Alcohol, uh, will make you feel like shit, will definitely reduce athletic performance. I will say this about my inflammatory agent. It's inflammatory, but I will say this about, you know, enjoying yourself, you know, having some drinks with some friends and stuff like that. When you look at overall wellness, overall emotional health, health from between you and family and friends, whatever, every once in a while you need to go out and enjoy yourself. That doesn't mean you go out and drink until you're puke and you know, you're sick, but if you can enjoy yourself with some friends and have a few drinks, and it's gonna take a little bit away from your physical, you know, goals, but however, you got to bond with your friends

and you have a good time every once in a while. I think it's worth it. Yeah, you know what I love is the risk of air at all And wine yeah, we're the like to you know, oh, well it has risk of air at all. So it's faper Listen here. I'm gonna tell you how alcohol is the devil. Okay alcohol is the devil stuff skirt around the issue You're drinking is made it yeah listen like you know you as long as you understand these things, as we're not hating on you, just understand these things. Okay, there's things in life that interrupt your progress, that's one of those things. Absolutely. That's all you have to say.

Stop trying to make something around it to justify it. I think that's why I'm so stern about it when I talk about it, it sounds all like soft. Well, you know, your balance in your life. your life that is life in life is a variable right? There's a million of them bro, but you forget I'm a tie-in bro like yeah, we drink wine. Yeah, well Drink whiskey. I'm not gonna sit here and say that me drinking whiskey is gonna help me get in better shape Yeah, or that's it and to talk about what Sal is saying that to me

It's about priorities. Where is your priorities at? And sometimes your priorities is family and enjoying yourself. Yeah, for sure. And sitting back and doing that, and I 100% respect that. Then some people are neurotic like myself, who my priority right now is to get myself

in the best condition and hit the Olympia stage at one point. So anytime I, and it's not like, I don't drink, I had a drink on the show What a while back and was my first one in a long time and He got awesome. Yeah, I got a terrible fast me. This is me apologizing again for those episodes. So You know, it's not like I don't ever do it But I most certainly when I do it. I know that I this is getting in the way of what my priority at the time, I just happen to be letting myself go. I have a shitty workout the day after I go.

It has so much. Every time. If you want to get into the science and all the adverse effects, let's be honest, it's one of the few things found out there that we can consume that has like no benefits to it. I mean, there's like nutrients. Yeah, there's no, I mean, you could go have a cheeseburger from in and out and at least get something that it's valuable. Well, there are people are gonna, I'm gonna play devil's advocate.

People are gonna argue that they show studies that a small consumption of things like wine reduces things like heart disease and whatnot. True. The studies, you're talking about wine though. Bro, you could, I could get you a study on cocaine and tell you about the positive. Well, well, it makes you move more. Well, yeah, it helped you burn fat. Yeah. And help you burn fat.

I mean, you could take a step. Let me finish. The studies will say you need to consume like a six ounces or something like that. Nobody drinks fucking six ounces of wine when they drink. Nobody's taking a shot glass of wine going, here's my supplement.

But it doesn't work that way. And can you get the benefits that you're going to get from the wine from anywhere else? From some blueberries. And what other risks are you going to get because any alcohol increases cancer risk, any alcohol increases glucose risk, any alcohol decreases other. And it's not good for you. The blood sugar effects.

Yeah, if it's not your immune system. Yeah, well, and yeah, and let's talk about the alcohol that's so at the okay, understanding the glycemic index, I think is one of the most important things that somebody could learn on their journey of learning to make better. You guys talk about this on your nutrition guide. Yeah, quite a bit. Yes, quite a bit.

I'm huge on the glycemic index as far as teaching this to people and understanding the most important. And there are some bit of controversy with it, and I understand that, but at the same time, it just makes a lot of good common sense in as far as my opinion goes. Oh, yeah. And I'll break the stuff that's non-controversial down. So I know what you're talking about.

Yeah, the stuff that's non-controversial is a fact is, so basically the way the glycemic index works is, and how it works from a scale of 0 to 100, there's nothing that's zero, there's nothing that's 100, but the highest is 99, which is alcohol and sugar alcohols. And what the number stands for is the higher the number, the faster the food or liquid is digested and converted into sugar. So you get an insulin spike, you get this pink, reatic reaction. So what's that? And the faster something is converted over to sugar. Okay, the higher your blood sugar is going to spike the higher your blood sugar spikes Then your body then releases insulin from the pancreas which now puts us in a in a state where our body cannot burn fat until it levels it back out

So that sugar in your body exactly so That's why I say out when it comes to fat loss or trying to get in shape, alcohol is a devil because it totally contradicts what you're trying to do. Right. Well, that all being said, I will defend to the, I will defend to the teeth. Anybody's, I believe everybody should have the right to put whatever they want. I believe wholeheartedly to put whatever they want into their body. Hey, I mean, so long as they hurt nobody else. And listen, if you're, if if if a glass of wine every night

Relaxes you and you and you have an extremely stressful life and that one and you're having one glass You're not like getting drunk right and that makes you calm down and relax and wind down and feel better Then then oh man, you know what go for it. We're just not gonna lie to you and say that it's good for your Your fitness goals It goes to your priorities. And it's either health or it's progress. And you keep using the soft gloves over here. And I keep coming the other way around because I'm like,

I don't know how many clients of mine are like telling me. And they all want me to give them this answer of, you know, how do I do both? You know, how do I, how do I still keep my drinking up? And then at the same time too, get in this great shape. And it's like, why am I not, you know, getting do I do both? You know, how do I, how do I still keep my drinking up and then at the same time too, get in this great shape. And it's like, why am I not, you know, getting awesome booths and abs? Exactly.

All this like a way. It's not, that's not that important to you. That's how I look at it. Like, if you can't give something up like that in order to achieve something that's really, really important to you, well, then it's just didn't just admit it. Fuck it ain't that important to you. That's not that big of a deal.

You'll like your game. You'll like your game. You'll like your game. You'll like your game. You'll like That's not that big of a deal. You'll have the staple of like a lot of these magazines. It's, I mean, it's really restrictive to get to that point. I mean, you just have to be honest with yourself. And that is that really the pathway that you want to pursue. And like I said, that being said, I think there are benefits to psychoactive substances. Alcohol is one of them.

I think there's a benefit. You know, you sit down with your significant other, you drink a little bit of wine, you loosen up, you have great conversation, great sex, whatever. I think there's benefits to other psychoactive substances. Look, I've talked about, I've told my friends and family this, that I would love, and this is going on a whole, no, no, no, no, no, but I would love to go down

to like South America and do one of those like Ayahuasca, you know, where you go with the shaman and you drink the freaking crazy tea. And because, and do I think that's gonna be good for my fitness? No, but I think I'll probably, you know, I'm looking forward to the mind- I'm trying to altering the expansive experience. Yeah, and change my consciousness and alter my, but it's not something I would do on a daily basis. But, I guess the long, the short answer to the long-winded one that we just gave is,

any amount of alcohol is not going to contribute any positive effects to your fitness or health performance or even if you weigh all risk factors out health. Right, and we're all adults here. I mean, like you're going to do what you're going to do and just don't expect from us to justify that for you. Expect us to give you the raw, you know, real deal and then you sort of make your decisions accordingly. You're an adult. We're adults, you know, there's no, we're not trying to be restrictive in, you know, real deal. And then you sort of make your decisions accordingly. You're an adult, we're adults, you know,

there's no, we're not trying to be restrictive in, you know, what you'd like to do. And we're from California, man, this is wine country. This is wine country. Although I will say this, I'm not gonna, I don't think I'll get in trouble for this because we've talked about this together, but there are a lot of people that forego alcohol

to relax at night and use it and it's zero calorie substitute. Oh, yeah. Marijuana. And that and being in California, there's a shitload of that around as well. And the Colorado, no, I hear. Yeah, Colorado's legalized also. Yeah, and so now you're not getting all the sugar and whatever and you can chill at night and have a little pot. So I'm not saying it's better than the other or maybe I am, but.

I am. Yeah. But it's, but it's, but yeah, I think if you just want to relax, I don't know. I mean, if you're not breaking any laws, maybe try that, I guess. Yeah. I'm not advocating anything. Yeah. Okay.

F.C. Yes. Are we even regulated by a third of that? We've been, we've been, we've been, we've been a cutting right there. Do we have any more questions? Do we get them all? I think we've got all the questions done. So how we do on time, Doug?

I, I think it's time to wrap it up. I tell you what, I, I, I, I'm really glad that we got the response we did and I hope we get a chance to ask more questions. And you know what? Ask us any questions. Yeah, and we have to address them. Anything. It doesn't even have to be with fitness. Yeah, it can be anything. That's right, because Sal's like a fucking snapple bottle. Fucking full of random stupid facts. Yeah, you can eat a shake, and then he comes up. We can come close to him. I know a little bit about everything. I know a lot about nothing. I know nothing about everything. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump. For more information about this show and to get valuable free resources from Sal, Adam, and Justin, visit us at www.mindpumpradio.com. Until next time, this is Mind Pump.

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