Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 030: The Future of Fitness

Episode Date: February 20, 2015

The fitness industry is in a constant state of flux and in this electronic age you can be sure that some very interesting changes are sure to come. Sal, Adam and Justin whip out their crystal balls and prognosticate the future of the fitness industry.

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind, pop, mind, pop with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Welcome back to Mind Pump. This is the fitness comedy show. W-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w I don't want that. What? Why did you do that? I was so random. I was so random. Listen, literally, literally, the last time you drink that much crown and coat before we start, start the show.

You're gonna start making poolers at the open out of the hall. You're not. You're not. We only record once a week. And so we actually, what we do is we record like six or seven shows. And so it's like once a week that we end to hang out, we drink a little, what we do is we record like six or seven shows and so it's like once a week that we end to hang out, we drink a little bit and we do the show.

So no, Adam's not fucking smashed every single day at all, so I apologize about that. So what we want to talk about on this episode was the future of fitness or in other words, the future of the fitness industry maybe to be more specific, right? So what we think the future looks like. Yeah. industry, maybe to be more specific, right? So what we think the future looks like. Yeah, and the landscapes totally change in already. I mean, just the incorporation of tech, I guess, is how I see a real impact making waves within the industry and like, everybody scrambling to sort of make sense out of it. So one thing is something I might have mentioned before about the corner corner quantified self so

Everybody's trying to make a wearable everybody's trying to be able to collect all this data as far as like Sleeping patterns as far as heart rate as far as steps as far as tons and tons of data biofeedback, right? So all this biofeedback is gonna play into now bettering your individual experience. And that's great. That's exciting. That's awesome. However, it puts a sort of predicament on personal trainers now. How secure are their jobs when everybody sort of has access to really good, qualified information

from your top level coach that now suddenly can get access to. I don't know. I don't think until they invent a pill, an actual pill that just makes you in shape, I don't think personal trainers will ever go out of style because people don't, yes, people hire trainers because they need help on learning how to exercise.

But let's be honest, trainers that people like to work with because they like to be with them and hang out with them and they motivate them, that's really the reason why people stick with a trainer, right? So these wearables can give you lots of data. And the people I think that'll impact the most are people like us. Nards.

Well, yeah. Like us. Yeah, guys like us who are already so into fitness that it's just another tool to take us to the next level. You think so? No, I agree and this is only because it's a very personal... People always want to have that hand on sort of interaction. So they want somebody to guide them through.

And until technology can replicate that... Yeah, because when technology can make like an artificially intelligent, like humanoid, well, personal, the last thing on art, for the last thing on the radar is personal training. Yeah, I mean, shit, people start dating these people. Yeah, but on that point, they're just gonna replace body parts and, you know, it'll get crazy. I think it's a dying breed.

What, a personal training. Really? Yeah. Why, what do you think's gonna replace it? I don't, I don't think I don't I shouldn't say a dying Brie because it's one of the grow. It's one of the fastest growing facets of fitness still yeah But I think good personal training I think is is dying because everything is going to group and to oh I see what you're cheaper and it's it's kind of it's kind of killing it, you know it is well So you we've seen quite an evolution already

since we've been in fitness. When we were in it, it was the big boxes, the big gyms that were exploding onto the scene. Because before that, gyms were, you had your health spots, your health clubs, your health spots, and then you had your Gery Cardio-based gyms. They had like Racket Ball and Swimming Ports. And then you had your G-Cardiobase sort of gyms. Yeah, and they had like racquetball and swimming pool.

And then you had your gyms, right? And then some of these companies came out like 24-finished just revolutionized, for example, the industry and really turned it into a business where people, you know, men and women will work out together. They really turned it into a very profitable business. Because before that owning a gym, you didn't make shit. Like the only people that own gyms were guys

that wanted to work out all the time and then maybe make enough to pay the bills. Like you were making, it wasn't a good business. It was like owning a bar just to have some drinks. Yeah, it wasn't a good business, but then all of a sudden it blew up. But now I see that slowing down and what you see is more of this kind of specialized

facilities and you kind of touched on it and add them with the groups. like you're seeing more yoga studios, you're seeing more pilates studios, personal training studios. You're seeing gyms that are more specialized in terms of their approach. Like, have you guys seen these hard candy gyms, these Madonna hard candy?

The bars, bars, bar mess. Yeah, there's all kinds of random stuff. I mean, there's CRX, or UFC gyms. Yeah. UFC gyms is one. Actually, the guy that founded 24 Fitness Mark Master, I've started this other fitness organization that owns many of these other companies like Crunch

and Madonna's Hard Candy Gyms. And what is that? So these hard games, so they're, I've never been in one, okay? But they're, you find them in major cities. So like there's one in Rome, there's one in, I think Berlin, Mexico City, they're massive, just sick looking jams.

I went online, I looked through some of them. They've got great classes. So like really off the wall type of Robys classes like with DJs spinning live music Acrobatz, you know, like almost like Circus Olay Staticing your shit. They do this sort of like what is that like yoga whether they're doing from where they're hanging like Spain and yoga or something like that. So it's pretty so I see the future of fitness in the in the short term Kind of being these more specialized Type facilities. I don't see, you know what happened?

This is, I'll go into this. This is kind of cool. You know, when we were, when the big boxes were blowing up, so back in let's say 99, when I would sell the gym membership for one club, meaning you can only work at one location, it was like 45 bucks a month. That's how much we charge, It was like 45 bucks a month. That's how much we charge. It was like 40, 45 bucks a month.

Later on, they went into these like price wars where the prices, they just started reducing prices lower and lower. And now, $45 a month for a gym is expensive. Now you have these like fitness 19 and these, and it's like they've really, I hate to say, but they've cheapened somewhat of what they offer some of these facilities.

Yeah, so they have to make, they're, you know, they have to make that work somehow and so they're gonna compromise on. Well, I've got a certain thing. I've got a little inside secret here. Here's an inside secret for the listeners, okay. Here's how some of these big box gyms make money. And I'm pretty sure I'm gonna piss some people off,

but that's never stopped me in the past so these gyms count they depend on people not showing up they depend on it but at the same time they want to charge a rate that's low enough to where the member won't cancel because they see that it's too low to cancel it's like oh I don't want to cancel my gym membership it's only 15 bucks a month. I'll just keep it. So the whole model really revolves around selling these dirt cheap memberships and then hoping that people don't show up to the gym.

And so they've got these huge dues bases that are basically donations that they get every month from members who don't use their gym. Yeah, can you imagine if everybody that had a membership showed up one way together? They would build a suite. The fire marshal, but you wouldn't be able to use the way well you imagine if everybody that had a membership showed up one way together? They would be able to do it. The fire marshal. Yeah, you wouldn't be able to do it.

You would be well over capacity. Oh, yeah, well over max capacity. If every member showed up on the same day, no, it'd be, it'd be possible to be fighting like sardines and they couldn't fit them in, you couldn't fit them in the building. Yeah, so we saw that kind of evolution. And now we're seeing the evolution of the small kind of studios and group kind of classes. I don't know what the future is going to look like. I wonder if there's going to be more like maybe online virtual training?

Absolutely. I think you're starting to see trends in the home. And I think that like as technology progresses, I see the TV is going to play a role. And so every form of media that you know about is going to play a role. And so every form of media that you know about, it's going to play a role. And why I say TV is because you remember those old, at home sort of workouts like you'd get. Yeah, videos like J.F.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. J.F. wanted to kind of stuff. Well, I really feel like they've gotten even more savvy with that now. And you know, with Apple TV and all these integrations where now you can get communication between things like a Connect Xbox where it actually will send you

biofeedback on the screen and you can see, you know, where your heart rates at, you know, how hard you're working. And then they can kind of pre-program. Well, I could even imagine, accordingly. I could even imagine taking a step further, like you go on your TV, you log into your class, there's your live instructor. Right.

And he's hosting 10,000 people. 10,000 people. Well, that's, yeah. So companies are trying to duplicate that already. And that would be from the phone or from your iPad. So, yeah, I mean, it's coming. It's coming. And obviously this is very much of,

we're in a bubble here in the Silicon Valley and I know that I'm geeking out and there's probably more than anybody else. No, no, I did this shit too. Yeah, this is my thing. So I'm very much into what's moving and what's happening to integrate the two together. Because I'm just fascinated by it.

Although I really like the old dinosaur training, I like to just get with the barbells and lift weights and be old school. Can you imagine now doing that and incorporating that and something automatically tells you exactly what you did every single day and then you can reference that. something automatically tells you exactly what you did every single day and then you can reference that Mm-hmm And so now you have the the analytical data to To pull up and then you can see progressions and you can see like trends and you can see faults and you can see Energy levels and it's just it's really it's for me I see it more as is a way to understand more about yourself. Yeah

Well, I can see social media even playing a big role because people who, people stay motivated by seeing that their friends are working out and what their friends are doing. And social media is kind of playing a role in that. There's a couple apps that I've saw, I can't remember the name of them, but you basically, it keeps track of your workouts

and then it connects to all your friends and it says, you know, so and so took this many more steps than you today. There's real power in that. Yeah, definitely. When you get accountability on a massive scale. Very motivating. And we know, like the internet is just fantastic at decentralizing things.

I'm imagining in the future where you could just pull up a group, just random groups meet up. And you could say, oh, who's going to be running? You're the fit mob. No, is that what that is? Fit mob is. Fuck, who's gonna be running? You heard of fit mob. No. Yeah, so is that it? So fit mob is... Fuck, I'm behind the times right now. I'm trying to educate.

Yeah. I'm into this shit. This is a subject I don't know something about. Yeah. Damn it. So fit mob basically came out and they're making waves right now. Basically because I don't know everything about them, but I know that basically you, they're done deals with gyms,

and so they can actually do these drop-in sort of memberships, and so if you're a fit mob member, there are certain destinations, or even if it's an outside class, or something that you can just go mob, basically. You go there and you show up. Oh, and if there's certain amount of people that show up at the same time,

you get a discount type of thing. Right. Something like that, yeah. That's fantastic. So it's a great at the same time, you get a discount type of thing. Right. Something like that. Yeah. That's fantastic. So it's a great idea. I mean, I think that they're smart in that. And I think that more gyms will adopt that concept. And that will definitely spread because why wouldn't gyms, you know, why would gyms not want to have like, you know, more money coming in from random sources that they wouldn't have normally got, right? Right. So that sounds genius. I have, you know, I was spoiled for a little while

because I own, you know, my, and I still work there, but I just recently sold it, but I owned a personal training studio and I was, I've been spoiled for the last 12 years so they get to just work out in my own gym. That is so fucking awesome. I don't know if you guys, I mean, you guys, have you guys own, you have an own your own gym, right? It is like the best thing to be able to work out in your own gym. You turn the lights down, you guys, you guys own, you have an own your own gem, right? It is like the best thing to be able to work out in your own gem.

You turn the lights down, you just freaking blast the music, do whatever you want, throw a chocolate over the place, you know? Yeah, that's really the best benefit of it, right? Just to just have that control. Oh, we, we, we, we're, we have to, we've talked about it. Well, we get some time.

I'm guarantee that's on our agenda. That's on our agenda. It's coming, dude. It's coming. I think it's smart gem though. I think, yeah, I think we all have the same a very similar vision of what we like. And it doesn't need to be much.

You know what I'm saying? It just needs to have all the major essentials what we need to fully train yourself and somebody else. Well, you know what's, bring on that point, just because I've been in the industry so long, what's old is new again also. You're seeing like, like a member of kettlebells came back and style, kettlebells are older than dumbbells, by the way.

For the listeners, here's the history of kettlebells. Somebody discovered that Bell ringers had muscular forearms. So what they did is they took out the middle part of the bell, the part that rang, and then they used them for exercises. And that's what the name dumbbell comes from. It's a bell that makes no sound. So it's done. It's actually a dumbbell.

Then somebody took the term dumbbell and trademarked it for what we know to be dumbbells. And so they had to rename them kettlebells. So that's kind of the history of it. Where was that Eastern European countries? I know, I think it might have been in England. I think England. Yeah, they have a

pretty long history with with with weights and strong man and stuff like that. Okay. Eugene Sandow with an English. Yeah, I think Arthur Saxon. I feel like I feel like a lot of the a lot of the kettlebell specific people have come out of like Ukraine or like. Oh, that's because they picked it up as a sport later on. Okay. It became like a big deal. And we just forgot all about them here until they started remarketing them again. Yeah, so it may definitely made this resurgence in the market and.

And you're seeing clubs. Yeah, which we're using. Clubs, I use and I love clubs. We're using India, right? We're from India. Yeah, like India. Mace Bell is another one. There's, yeah, there's a lot of really interesting tools. You're seeing people use ropes. Yeah, like India mace Bell is another one. There's um, yeah, there's a lot of really interesting tools

You think people use ropes. Yeah ropes. I remember when that came out and everybody jumped on that like it was freaking out Yeah, I want to call battle ropes battle ropes. Yeah, the battle ropes warrior Warrior whatever. Yeah, we have a method in my train at they're pretty cool Yeah, I really enjoy for a condition I really enjoy it. Just the hell out of you. Such a liar. The ropes? Yeah. Do you ever do a conditioning workout?

No, no, no. I enjoy training my clients on that. Right. I don't use the fucking rope. I don't do any more than eight reps. That's a high rep. I like that though. I have them with you on the low-recount.

The worst fucking thing in the world is doing squats for anything more than six reps. No, I know rounds I just want to throw up and go home. It's fucking taking that But I'll do jump rope and I'll do like specific conditioning You're all horse you jump workouts. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, damn Double triple. Oh shit. You can jump right I couldn't jump rope the same alive, bro. Yeah, I want to see you jump rope Oh, it's it's is it awkward. Yeah, it's awkward But it probably looks like how I dance. Oh, is it awkward? Yeah, it's awkward. It's not. But it probably looks like how I dance. Oh, that's right. Yeah.

Me and you were part of the We Can't Dance Club. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're the big guy dance. Yeah, so I enjoyed some of the old fat. And you see some of that coming back. I think probably because it's effective. But barbells and dumbbells, that's the one thing it's been in gyms that I ain't going anywhere.

No, yeah. Anytime it's just about the weight that you're moving, that's never going to die. At one point, machines were really popular. Yeah. A lot of the selectorized equipment. I see why, though, because, let's say you're a gym owner and maybe you don't have as much vested interest in the actual fitness side of it, and you just want to make sure that everything is safe and controlled, and you can bolt things in one place and people aren't moving them everywhere.

Machines is like the way to go. And they're easier to use. Yeah. Easier to use. You don't really have to explain. I mean, they have like pictures. I always found it funny that like if you're a beginner trainer and then you're trying to explain like how to do these machines and I'm like, I felt like a fucking idiot.

There's a picture right there. Yeah, like, you do this. Who's shit? That's so stupid. Speaking of the evolution of fitness, first, when we were in the big box industry, there was heavy in terms of the sales, the one-on-one sales,

the person, as trainers or as sales counselors, those general managers. And then they moved away from that. And they said, okay, we want our gyms people to walk in and just kind of pick, you know, between three memberships and then to buy a membership. And of course, this was promoted by guys that never sold memberships, that had no idea.

And a lot of gyms lost money. And now all they're going back. They're starting to go back. They're starting to get the sales aspect built back in. Because you know, fitness is a tough concept for people. They need to be close, bro. They need to be closed. Yeah, you guys. How effective I have.

Let's be on why they ever got rid of that. Because you had guys that came in. They don't want to pay the commission. They were from the retail industry and they said this is a retail business. People just want to work out. We have this product, show them the price, we'll have the best price and the best product and they'll pay for it. But in fitness, that's not true because you really don't buy shit. You just leave with a dream.

And who's going to paint that dream? The sales guy. Not only paint that dream, but then set them up with somebody that's going to finish them off to get results. Right. The trainer. You know, you know, yeah, that's, that was like a great bridge, you know, like you could communicate with somebody that's taking somebody on a tour and, you know, it was an easy transition from there, you know, you, you start drawing it now from our perspective and the trainer perspective and, and it was a great sort of a marriage there.

And they took that element out and yeah. Yeah, I think a lot of these places are trying to bring it back. Yeah, because they just, they started losing sales and over time, listen, if your members aren't getting results, if you're just gonna charge cheap memberships and have people not show up, eventually people are gonna associate your gym as being a cheap gym and having, you

know, not good equipment, not up to date with the cleanliness, you know, bad service, whatever. And you're going to have to reverse that eventually, or someone else is going to come in. And you're just a hamster wheel gym. Let's be honest. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You might as well just have the entire thing full of treadmills. Exactly.

So, you know, exactly. And we're looking at some new training techniques that are kind of on the horizon. We've talked about a blood occlusion training. Adam's talked about that. You have a friend. Didn't you get that text message too from someone who had an injury and they brought it up to their doctor and they They're about to there's somebody. So we know someone in common whose husband has an injury and I can't remember what he had though. It was in me, I think his knee surgery. He's a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu practitioner.

And he went to the doctor and he said, hey, what about occlusion training? Because occlusion training, it elicits muscle growth with very, very light weight. So it's excellent for rehab. And the doctor hadn't heard about it, looked it up, and now that's what they're doing with them. Wow, so he was open to using it.

That's great. That's what I said, Darcy. That's pretty neat that he was even open to it like that. He said, no, no, that's why she loves him. She says, great doctor, because he's very open-minded that she came to with that. And he just liked Sal said. He didn't, he wasn't familiar with it, right up on it.

He's a research and then came back. Was that absolutely what I was going to implement? I just love how strength training has finally gotten the respect that it deserves. I remember when I first started in fitness, if you were older, for the older generation, they just said, do cardiovascular. Yeah. 30 minutes of brisk walking or cardiovascular activity is all you need. And that'll keep you healthy.

It was all about heart health, was the big push. Yeah, heart health. And I even remember people telling me, oh my doctor says I can't lift weights because it'll raise my blood pressure. Oh yeah, I don't remember that one all the time. And it used to get on my nerves, you know. And yes, if you lift weights temporarily,

your blood pressure goes up because you're lifting something heavy. But over time, nothing is better. Nothing combats aging. No form of exercise, combats aging as effectively as weights. Oh, no. Period. So much going on.

It's period. You got bad joints. So much going on. Your bones are getting weaker, your balance is going down, you're losing strength, your hormones are declining, resistance training, resistance training, resistance training. Nothing's better. And it's finally starting to get that respect. I think there was a study that came out that said, if people can get off the floor,

or how they get off the floor can predict their lifespan, better than almost any other physical test, and that's like a strength, that's a strength thing. 100%, it's not an endurance thing, it's not a flexibility thing, it can be, but not really, it's mostly a strength thing. And I know when I've trained people in advanced age, resistance training just blows their mind.

Yeah, well, I trained somebody that was like 75 years old, never lifted a weight. He just did basic stuff around the house and he danced a little bit and I don't know if he did any kind of sports back in the day, but I mean this guy's 75 years old, we started and he, it's kind of a funny story, though, because he, he came in and I was training at goals at the time. And so it's kind of an intimidating gym. And I was really surprised that he came in with a membership and was looking to do something about this. But basically, his story was like, he wanted to get in better shapes when he could dance with, you know dance with the ladies at his retirement club and

everything. It was kind of a funny thing. I was like, oh, this is great. Yeah, it was awesome. But basically, he started training with me in over like maybe three months. It was so crazy because he built muscle. Yeah, of course. No, I know, but like he's 75 years old.

And I swear, I sh- Well, it was like 10 pounds of muscle we put on him. I'm with you because I think we still get shocked. I was very shocking to me. Well, you know, the truth is, the day that your body stops adapting is the day that you die. So, yeah. Your body can always have some type of adaptation process

up until the day you die. You're not gonna have the same potential. You know, 90-year-old is not gonna go as far as they would if they were 20, but that doesn't mean that their 90-year-old body can't, well, it will show some kind of adaptation. Of course. You're seeing so those cool, we got to find that. There's a cool YouTube. There's a guy who's like, I want to say he's 89 or 90 in his 90s.

I've been seeing a couple of these, yeah, that are just like a figure model. Yeah. Bro, you know what? I'll tell you what, this is a lot of people don't know this, but you guys get this. Who's the most respected, who are usually the most respected people in the gym? It's always those old, the old strong dudes, yeah.

And if you still good conditions, throw that for his age. Those guys motivate me, you know. Dude, I'll never forget. So I was managing a club and this guy used to come in every morning, 7am on the dot, right? And he would wear this tank top, like one of those kind of old school string tank tops, right?

Tall dude, white hair, but bald on the top, right? He was really fit and he'd come in really tall posture. You know, I'd check him in and I'd say hi to him and we'd talk for two seconds, he'd leave. And I never looked at the age, his age, right? So one day he comes in and he's with this really attractive, probably 40-something-year-old girl. And I thought, oh, that's got to be, you know, that's got to be his daughter.

So I checked his age and the guy was 77 years old, really fit looking though. Amazing. So he came in another day to work out and I asked him, Hey, I said, um, is that your, you know, was that your daughter? I mean, it's awesome that you guys, you train your daughter and he's like, that's my girlfriend. He's like, that's my girlfriend.

He goes, he goes, that's the best thing about working out, man. Boom. And I was like, I was like, bro, I was just, I was, I just want to shake your hand right now. You're like the coolest fucking guy I've ever met in my life. And this guy would come in and work out, man. He just, I can look like a, he's just a stud, 77 year old stud. You know, yeah, it's just so awesome.

Yeah, those guys are the baddest guys in the gym. Always, always get the most respect. Absolutely. Yeah, actually, I have a workout. At least for me, I feel that way, you know what I'm saying, because I think everybody does. Yeah. Even, or the old chick, the old lady, you know,

that the 50 or 60 year old woman, who just fit and working out. Oh, yeah. There's a, there's this woman at, right now, one of the golds at work out at. She's gotta be, I wanna say she's probably in her 60s but she doesn't look like it. She's very fit.

You could tell she's been lifting weights for a long time because she's got that tone that you don't have unless you lift weights. And she's in the weight room man. Right, with the dumbbells and barbells with the guys and lifting weights. And you know, she's 60 something years old. I'm 36 years old but she's such an attractive woman

because she's got that strength, you know, that she takes care of herself. It's pretty awesome to see. Lots of respect, youthfulness about her. Just, it's just an attractive thing. And I mean that with all the respect in the world, you know. Oh yeah, for sure. Mike, I have a workout partner right now

that I work out with twice a week. He's also, he's also a client of mine, but he's 69 years old, okay. And he'd been working out for a long time, but not with weights. He came to me, he's a classic ectomorph, you know, skinny guy, it doesn't build muscle easily. But through training at 69, we're still hitting PRs, and I've been training this guy now for at least three years. So we're still breaking some of his old records at 69 and he's and this is three years later He's put on at least 13 14 pounds of muscle This guy's a freak in terms of endurance though. I'll tell you what every single night this guy

So this is you've been doing this for the last 40 years every night He goes to the to another jam when I have a lap pull and he swims for an hour and a half straight. Oh, shit. Every, every night. Oh, that's legit. Every single night this guy swims for an hour and a half straight. What is it, man?

He's a badass. He's a badass. That's why I like to work out with him. So I work out my core with him in calves because my calves are shit. So I want to work out with someone who's gonna, you know, I need to try and look good around. But we work out core together

and Spocker kicks my ass man. He's got way more endurance to me. We'll do like Roman chair sit-ups and he'll do like 50 reps, you know? And I like doing like 20 and I'm just hammered. Like what the fuck? That's pretty awesome. That's pretty awesome.

So I think the future of fitness, you're looking at probably more small, some of these smaller facilities. You think so? I think I'm a very miniscule portion of what's gonna happen. I see more virtual in your home. Yeah. Not even leaving your bedroom type of.

I see it being a personal thing. That's what I see being at. I see being at all a cart, you know, in all a cart sort of playing field as far as like, there's gyms that are still gonna exist because people like physical locations and that's not gonna ever change. Like they want to actually devote, you know, a part of their lifestyle to going to the gym and to making fitness a priority. That's not going to change. But, you know, the accessibility of that

is going to change. That's all going to change. And I think that there's going to be companies that are going to get creative with that and you're going to have different options. It could be a plethora of things that you're going to find on the market. I think that that's exciting, but also everything that's really easy about other businesses that you're seeing right now with your phone. That's all. That's going to apply to fitness. It's going to apply to fitness and people are just going to keep creating better products out of it. And it's going to give you all this analytical data that now you can show your doctor.

And I really feel like the bridge between what people do as far as preventative health and then insurance companies, that's like one of the, that's a huge barrier that I think is going to be bridged at some point. That's a great point. Yeah, at some point, because people want that. People want to have actively be motivated to lower their costs as far as health insurance. Well, now that employers are figuring out that if their employees exercise, they save money, I think you're gonna see that. Cause now they've looked at their bottom line

and said, hold on, our employees that work out aren't sick as often, they're more productive, and they're better. I think Justin's right on with that. I think that's the future is, that's gonna merge together, that has to merge together, it has to work together. I think it's gonna get to a point to where it becomes,

like right now it's not cool to measure your food and count all this stuff and do that, but the more and more, like we're finding the science and food and nutrients and what it could possibly do for us and as far as longevity is concerning with that. And overall, like, I really feel like we're still learning and like we haven't had like a great group of test studies of like generations that have of test studies of like

generations that have from the beginning like truly really really clean and ride and train for consistent time. There's a lot of misinformation out there. Yeah. Everybody stumbles upon because it's it's it's such a machine that you know people like us and other people like minded like us need to step forward and create something that impacts people and educates them properly. So it's really hard to do. It's hard to step outside of that machine and say, hey, let's reevaluate this and let's look at really how people are benefiting and what's really healthy for you.

So it sounds like mind pump. Sounds like we're on the cutting edge. I would hope so. I mean, I don't like being a part of anything that's not innovative. Yeah, just so you know, yeah. Why why why why? I don't like. Finish up. Thanks Adam.

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