Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 088: Steroids for the Brain

Episode Date: May 29, 2015

MindPump is located in the heart of Silicon Valley, the home of Google, Facebook, Apple and dozens of other companies that are household names around the world. Concentrated here are some of the most ...creative and driven people in the world and they are always looking for the mental edge. In this episode Sal, Adam & Justin talk about a trend that is sweeping Silicon Valley, the use of brain enhancing smart drugs called Nootropics...essentially "steroids" for the brain.

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Starting point is 00:00:45 Mind, pop, mind, pop with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Welcome to Mind Pump. This show is like a hand job for your brain. Whoa. Oh yeah, I'm about to, I'm about to give you a, I'm about to give you a, I'm about to jerk me off your head.
Starting point is 00:01:04 I'm about to give you a brain, a hand give you a I'm about to jerk me on your head I'm about to give your brain a hand job Who you here with? With two hands Um, I'm here with Justin Andrews Yeah The great Adam Schaefer Oh, I like him, he got I like the great in front of my name
Starting point is 00:01:17 And the fits in your pocket Doug Eggie Hello Dude, I get, I get no nickname. What's up with that? I'm mad at you because today you were called the handsomeist amongst the three of us again. A fucking guest. So you don't get anything in front of your name.
Starting point is 00:01:36 You just get just how about just the handsomeist? See? Just a handsomeist. His ego, bro, we don't have room for three massive ego only two Massive egos you're supposed to be the one in this show one of us needs to stay humble, bro. Yeah humble pie So guys, I want to talk to you guys. I want to talk about a subject That's I've been just fascinated over this weekend over. We know he's about to get nerdy right now Yeah, we're gonna talk about keep it white and nerdy. We're gonna talk about some nerdy stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:06 So intelligence to me is incredibly fascinating and I read an article about obviously, okay, so we live in Silicon Valley and this is, you know, not to offend anybody who lives anywhere else, but this is like the center of the world in terms of. Okay. Not to offend anybody else.
Starting point is 00:02:25 I don't want to offend you. This is a stupid, yeah, I do love that. Save it. It's the center of the whole way. It's the center of the universe. Wait until the table. That one. Well, let me tell you why.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Because this is, this is. We're pretty much better than you. No, this is the tech, the tech revolution is here. You have, look, how many. How many everything you see online. Google apples here. It's like, yeah, a building next door. Facebook. And look, look, how many everything you see on lot. Google apples is like a building next door. Facebook. And look, look, you guys walk around, you know
Starting point is 00:02:49 many fucking incredibly smart people were surrounded by now. It's crazy. Like I've gone, I've flown places and I'm not going to name any places, but it's like the first thing I think to myself is, hmm, people are kind of stupid. You know, not not quite as smart. I'm serious. I'm surrounded by we're surrounded by some incredible. I know we just lost. Yeah, I know. There goes everybody. No, that's not true because all the smart people listen to our show. This is so I'm not offending anybody. Yeah, that's right. If you're listening, you're an exception to the room. Good save. People that don't listen to
Starting point is 00:03:15 mind pump are incredibly stupid is what I found. So, but no, we're, you know, we're surrounded by really smart people. So I'm reading this article about how Silicon Valley executives are using supplements at a very high rate and I'm thinking supplements, you know Like they're trying to build like Buster yeah, that's what I'm thinking no, they're using supplements to juice up their brains Uh-huh, they're using supplements the same way that bodybuilders and you know as fitness fanatics have been using supplements forever to try and increase our Must in our biceps Brains steroids for the brain. They're just I mean on this pace of productivity Like whatever they can do to be more competitive
Starting point is 00:03:53 Give them the edge over the next company. It's like this Insane competitive environment. It's crazy how competitive the environment is absolutely insane Nobody works 40 hours a week around here. No. Everybody's looking for the edge. How they can produce more and be more creative. And that's a big one too is creativity. People think work means you're just,
Starting point is 00:04:15 but a lot of these tech companies, it's this huge brain drain where you're in there and you're just focusing on how creative you can get. A lot of these ideas that come out that we have now that we take for granted came out of someone's brain and you gotta think about the creativity that goes into some of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:32 So they're looking for the edge. They're looking for every edge they can get. And so I stumbled upon, and I've heard of these, this category of supplements before, but I really didn't pay a whole lot of attention to them until last weekend, this weekend, where I kinda went nuts so Oh on it and you know you guys know I can get OCD You know manic on shit So I've been reading like and I know I know the hell out of you guys Adam in particular was irritated with me
Starting point is 00:04:53 It's our shooting like 15 texts, you know a minute At one point I believe I was writing my I was doing tell what I said you guys can we focus on the fucking first four things that we just talked about Yeah, I'm sorry, bro. We got our porn ads. We got to get knocked out first I was doing tell what I said you guys can we focus on the fucking first four things that we just talked about yeah Sorry, we got our porn ads. We got to get knocked out first. Oh, yeah Can we talk about that right now? Yeah, you know what? That's what we talk about right now. Yeah, we'll do the action a little competition. They were about to do yeah Let's talk about that's a great. That's a great idea. Uh, we're looking to advertise. Yeah, there was this idea, right? Justin's idea. Okay, so I was reading this credit for you see how you was gonna take you was Dude, why do you gotta be so humble? You're such a bitch. I'm what step up and I'm sure it was your idea
Starting point is 00:05:32 Bro, my idea. Thank you, bro. I will say I will say I'm not saying that yeah, but you hesitated to say didn't you know that you catch the hesitation listen, I'm awesome Okay, I am awesome That's all I gotta say Awesome, okay. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, We got to get creative with our marketing approach here. We don't have any money. Let's look into this. And so what they did was they wanted to expand their reach online, basically. And so what they're looking into was all the basic formats for that, right?
Starting point is 00:06:16 You have like Google, you have Yahoo, you have Bing, you have all these like paper click ways of getting advertisement. And all these costs like ridiculous. I mean, you spend a dollar for every click, somebody like clicks onto your ad. However, there's one ad service that charges sense to the dollar, right? And so they were looking into this and they saw that porn was really cheap.
Starting point is 00:06:41 It's such a great idea. And not only that, like the traffic is insane. Dude, 30% of all internet traffic goes to porn. Yeah. 30%? 30%? First of all, I thought that was a low number. Jeez, you guys are a bunch of sick fox.
Starting point is 00:06:55 That's a low number considering how much porn, you know, just me and Adam consume. And it's so high in the third. What a third? Yeah, in like all these states that are like very, very conservative. Oh, yeah. You know, like they have the highest porn.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Oh, that's crazy. Oh, it's in the weirdest porn. I would love to see that stat. Like if you wouldn't be able to like the conservative states, I saw it. Yeah, there was a whole map. It's true. A map of it and they show like, yeah, like 60%.
Starting point is 00:07:20 You know, it's like a huge increase. Dude, some of the highest per capita porn consumers in the world are those hardcore, you know, Middle East states that like like, no, no, I'm talking about in the world, in the Middle East, they find like high consumption of porn in places where like, you know, if you, if a woman walks around, you know, exposing your ankles should be stoned to death. Oh, wow, that's so dudes are just so yeah. They're so repressed.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Yeah, repressed. Yeah. And the porn that they look at is like the shit that's like, what the hell are you looking at? Like, set a max for us. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Yeah, the good thing about We'll have that's what it looks like at least when I'm doing it The thing about porn ads that really intrigued me was we can get crazy with our ads We don't have to be we don't censor ourselves. Well, yeah, I believe I believe Justin even read a stat on this Because I was you know still trying to be conservative a little bit when we were good. We did so here's a deal
Starting point is 00:08:21 Here's Adam being conservative a little bit. So here's a deal. Here's Adam being conservative. Right. On here, like believe that. No, listen though, we're writing these at. Okay, so let's tell everybody the competition we decided we decided we're going to do this. We're going to do these, but we're going to have some fun with it and be a little competitive, friendly competition here on who could come up with the most clever and creative ads that we're going to post on here. So we're all shooting out ideas, you know, and I'm giving these ideas out that, you know, they're, you know, I'm
Starting point is 00:08:48 thinking a little edgy and stuff like that. Justin's like, no, bro, and sounds like, no, no, those are, those are so weak, dude, those are not. It's a porn site. They need to be more graphic. And I'm like, dude, I'm saying some pretty nasty stuff right now. Like, no, no, then SouthSouth's giving you using some pulse. But hey, Doug, do we have, I mean, do you have access to that? No, not right now. Okay. What we might do then, maybe what we'll do is I'll post them. Well, one idea, I could just tell them.
Starting point is 00:09:14 One idea is we would have a picture of a micro penis. For those of you guys that don't know what a micro penis, it's a horrible condition that someone might be born with. I can't guess what that is. Where they have, they have like a dick that's like the size of my pinky, which is just devastating. But anyway, a picture of that, and then it would say,
Starting point is 00:09:28 this guy doesn't listen to mine pump. It's something like that. You know, stuff like that basically. Yeah, like we'll fill your holes. Yeah, we'll have with information. Long boss. Yeah. Yeah, so I think that's, I think that is a brilliant idea.
Starting point is 00:09:44 And I think that's gonna be fun to do this and to see where it goes So and the point of this is you know what we should let the listeners give us ideas. Oh, yeah I that would be amazing No, go to our go to our Instagram page and tell us give us some ideas for a Just can you remember do a post and do a post for the porn thing on the line pump so people get know where to list under and we'll start Coming up with porn ad ideas. Yeah, cuz we have probably a 10 or 15. I'll tell you what, you know, what we'll do, the three of us will make, we'll pick our favorite and we'll at least run at least one of theirs, at least one. I mean, if they come up with better ones than us
Starting point is 00:10:18 then maybe we'll run more, but we'll guarantee we'll run at least one person. And we'll give you credit. Yeah. All right. And we'll test it out and see which one's performing the best. Now, yeah, absolutely. Now the idea of all this is as much as we love everybody that's listening to us, we're always trying to grow grow and continue to reach. Right. We want exposure. And the thing is is we're we're definitely a growing show. We've definitely got a very loyal base. But we're lacking exposure to really, you know, take it to the next level and we figured
Starting point is 00:10:46 porn would be a great place to expose yourself. Exactly. All right, so back to your nerdism. Can we get back on topic? All right, guys. So I'm going to bore everybody now. Supplements for the brain. I know, we just went from porn and the burger right back to the...
Starting point is 00:11:03 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, so what I want you to... I want you to pretend like you're interested at them. Okay. We just went from porn porn and the burger right back to Yeah, oh So what I want you to pretend like you're interested at them, okay? So and by the way, I'm gonna bring you up on this because you always play and pretend like this and that the other but you have incredibly high Intelligence for certain areas which I want to talk about I want to bring like but holes That just doesn't show how smart he is strokes my ego It's not now I'm listening the last ego in the world, I would want to stroke as yours. OK.
Starting point is 00:11:27 We don't need to make that any bigger. So, neutropics. Neutropics are supplements that increase cognitive function. And they work through a bunch of different ways. Some increase blood flow to the brain, some increase neurotransmitters, like dopamine, others increase the way that neurons communicate with each other. I'm going to give you an example of one of the most common neutropics that people consume on a daily basis.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Caffeine. Caffeine is a classic neutropic. All of us have felt tired, we drank a cup of coffee, boom we're up, we can think straight and create a lot of that. Yeah, your brain starts getting that charge. It does. And so this is a very fascinating subject for me. So I'm looking through and I'm studying different ways to augment cognition because to be honest, look,
Starting point is 00:12:14 I love physical performance, but the thought of, making my brain smarter is just excites the hell out of me. I don't know about you guys. Well, I'm not gonna lie, that sounds pretty fucking good too. I got a boner. Dude, have you guys- Limitless is one of my favorite movies. Oh what a grout. I was just gonna say that. What a great movie that was Yes, it was so I came I came upon a group of molecules or drugs called racitems and Racitems have been around for a long time the parent one is Paris attempt which was invented
Starting point is 00:12:41 I believe in the nineteen early seventies or late sixties and Which was invented I believe in the 19 early 70s or late 60s and Clinically proven this is the crazy part because I'm reading all these people saying oh this is supposed to do this that and the other But I'm like I want to see the science. I want to see actual, you know clinical benefits where they can measure It working on somebody through different testing well the race attempts show that they actually show that. So I bought some. And that's why I was annoying the shit at you guys this weekend
Starting point is 00:13:09 because I took some on Saturday, was my first time taking a chatty, Kathy. Maybe you don't need me. I bought some Pericitam and I took it with some Colleen and I'll explain why in a second. I took about 16. So drunk with your Colleen? Yes, no, it's Colleen. Colleen. So I'm in a second. I took about 16. So drunk with your colon? Yes, no, it's choline.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Choline. So I took porosity, I took 1,600 milligrams, and I took about 400 milligrams of choline. And about 30 minutes later, I had a glass of green tea, and then my brain was on fire. I felt, dude, you're laughing, but I felt, you know how caffeine gets you kind of up? So I felt that from the caffeine from the green tea, but it was a clear,
Starting point is 00:13:50 like a very clear focus creative type of up that I was that I was feeling. And so at one point I was doing cardio on my stationary bike. I was texting you guys. I was growing on another group text. I was reading and writing notes and I was listening to a documentary in my headphones at the same time. So you're saying you're multitasking abilities increased. So I can normally, I'm crazy anyway.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Normally I can get into these modes where I get kind of hypomanic, but it felt like it just turned that on at will. All right, that's what I wanna do. Because most, that's what I wanna do with this. I want you to do, I know that this is a small case study because it's gonna be just with me. But I wanna do this with, this is what I wanna do.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I want you to feed me these pills, but I don't wanna see you, I don't wanna see the bottle, I don't wanna see, I don't wanna see I don't wanna see you give me them for a week. And then I want you also to give me a placebo, and I don't wanna you to tell me which one's, which one I get first for, I get the placebo first, so I get the real ones first.
Starting point is 00:14:40 And I wanna feel the week, see what I say, don't ask me, you know what I'm saying, let me, let me, let me, so you're trusting me to give you a random pill. I want to feel the week. See what I see. I say don't ask me. You know I'm saying let me let me So you're trusting me to give you a random. I know I was just saying we are friends. You dick. It's gonna be ecstasy I'm a sneak in some ecstasy and some Yeah, for the placebo to be a favorite. You'd be so cool Adam you're probably wondering why you're hugging me so much These are some pills I picked up at a rave. This one feels great. So let me talk a little bit about how the race attempts work because we have some nerdy
Starting point is 00:15:09 listeners. So I know you guys get irritated with me, but we do. We have some fucking nerdy ones. I love you guys. Go nerds. Go nerds. So it modulates the way they work is they think that they modulate certain neurotransmitters in particular, acetylcholine transmitter and glutamate.
Starting point is 00:15:24 And those are both responsible for forming memories, both short-term and long-term memories. And in these studies, they show that people will increase their ability to store information. Some studies is much as 15%, which is fucking huge. That's huge. It also increases activation of the corpus colosum. Do you know where that is? Corpus colosum. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:44 It's the part of the brain that connects the left hemisphere and the right hemisphere. Corpus Colossum, do you know where that is? Corpus Colossum. Yes. I'm not familiar. It's the part of the brain that connects the left hemisphere and the right hemisphere. So the left and right hemisphere communicate better with each other. It's like the bridge. And instead, you're gonna be logical and sensitive at the same time.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Yes, very cool. And it sounds like a lot of hormonal problems coming after this. I don't know, am I gonna crash? Am I gonna get a weird after this? It's our crying and ship. Yeah. I'm gonna have to hold you. As long after this. I don't know, am I gonna crash? Am I gonna get a weird after this? I'm gonna start crying in ship. Yeah, I'm gonna have to hold you. Oh, as long as your nipples don't leak. Well, some people might consider that a positive.
Starting point is 00:16:13 It's one of those side effects like that rolls along the bottom of the screen. Yeah, so it also has been used in people with Alzheimer's and dementia and it improves their function and they're saying that it's also potentially good for the brain because it increases what's called neural permeability. So, your brain gets rid of waste and uptakes certain important nutrients even better. So pretty interesting stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:38 There's even some speculation and again, they don't fully know how these things work even though they've been around for a while, that it increases neural plasticity. Neural plasticity is the ability of your brain to mold itself, to learn new things and to adapt to new tasks. And this sucks the prevention of Alzheimer's and the distributed to that. That's why these brain games and these things are popular now, right? Yes. And so for myself, I've just noticed now I've been taking them now for about four days,
Starting point is 00:17:06 and so far, I just feel sharper. My verbal skills are even better, which to the annoyance of people around me, I seem to be talking more. I feel like I can remember things better. And I'm pretty sensitive to my body, so these are probably, it's not like this dramatic, you know, it's not like a limitless movie,
Starting point is 00:17:28 but it's pretty awesome stuff. So, Neutropics is an area that I'm really interested in. I have that, that I'm curious, because as much as we all are alike. You are curious. I am. Try curious. Well, you know, we're all different.
Starting point is 00:17:44 I would be curious. Well, you know, we're all different. I would be curious to what, okay, the idea is it's gonna give you this, you know, more cognitive function, right? Is it getting you more function or clear, more function? No, it improves cognitive function. So everything that your brain would do, it's supposed to make better. Okay, now we all have different brains, right?
Starting point is 00:18:03 We all have different things that make us, what, like, we all have different brains, right? We all have different things that make us, like, for example, like maybe you have this photographic memory, which makes you great. You can read a text book or read an article and literally regurgitate that, like almost verbatim to us. I can't do that. Now, does that mean if I take this, maybe I will get closer to being able to do that or maybe I'll be able to do that or am I going to notice other things in my life that are already something that's my strength or something that's, or is it going to develop things that you don't know. So this is where I'm going.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I do. So this is actually going to take me, and there's two different things I want to touch on. Number one, yes, it will improve your memory. The study's done on its show. Retrieval of things that people have tried to memorize is better when supplementing with a rest attempt drug. There's a lot of them. Percitem is the one I'm trying right now. I ordered some oxyresitem, which is a
Starting point is 00:18:57 different one, which is supposed to be a little more stimulatory. In all of them anecdotally, people say they work a little differently. But I'm glad you brought that up because intelligence is an interesting thing to me. We try to define intelligence through things like IQ. When we think high intelligence, we think of the physicist, right? Book smart. Book smart.
Starting point is 00:19:18 But I'm gonna use, use an example at him. Because I'm not book smart. I know that's why you're gonna use your book. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, And one of which is social intelligence. Social intelligence is some people call charisma. Some people say the ability to speak to a crowd, or you work a room, or you go in front of a group, or in front of people, and people are drawn to you, and they want to listen to you. And you have a very high level of social intelligence.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And I want to bring that up, because every time people think about intelligence, for whatever reason, we pigeon up because every time people think about intelligence for whatever reason we pigeonhole it and we think of Stephen Hawking's or the scientists and stuff like that. And I've met people who were incredibly booksmart but were absolute morons in other forms of intelligence like social intelligence. Well, now you're starting to make me nerd out and get a little fascinated now because if I were to go Yes, if I were to look at my if I were to look at my library of all the books that I've read I would have to say at least
Starting point is 00:20:34 God at least 30% maybe 50% of them are leaning to Psychology emotional intelligence social awareness ecology, emotional intelligence, social awareness, type of reads for me. And I love that shit. I absolutely love that. Which it just kind of naturally comes in and it just, it comes easy. And personally, I've said this before that I think it's one of the most important things that somebody can learn is understanding social, social awareness,
Starting point is 00:21:00 emotional intelligence, because you could be this, and this is my personal experience in my views, of course. So I'm not trying to knock anybody who has their PhD and is incredibly booksmart and can calculate ridiculous numbers that's up their head or has amazing photographic memories. I think all those things, using your strengths in the right direction can be very powerful for anybody, for myself, that I preach to the whole emotional intelligence thing so much because I feel like that's a lot of our daily activities with other people and being able to navigate your way through conversation and through management and work your way up
Starting point is 00:21:37 and companies. I've always had that confidence level that I could, you know, get any job that I wanted if you could just put me in the room with the person that makes the decision. It doesn't even matter if it's a position even I would be not afraid to go after a job that I know nothing about whatsoever nothing whatsoever have no expertise to no schooling on it but if you put me in the room with the person who makes the decision on hire me yes or no I would convince that person that I would do what it takes to learn that craft and the things that I am strong at, I would be able to hang with anybody else
Starting point is 00:22:09 that you have there. And it's not exceed beyond that. This is important. I want to, and the reason why I want to convey this to the listeners is because intelligence, there's a part of it that's definitely something you're born with, right? You tend to be natural at certain types of intelligences.
Starting point is 00:22:23 However, you can develop them. And understanding that natural at certain types of intelligence is however you can develop them and Understanding that it's a type of intelligence helps people understand that they can work on it You know, so if you're socially if you don't have good social intelligence and you feel awkward and you feel whatever nervous Whatever you can develop it and get yourself that much better at it and some of us are natural at it You know out of the types of intelligence look. I'm gonna I'm gonna first one to say that my spatial intelligence, my directional intelligence, is I am at, you know, a ridiculously low level. Like, I get lost going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:22:56 I can't even take us to the mall right now, and I've been to the mall five million times. I have to use my navigation on my phone every time I leave the studio to get home. And we've been here a trillion times. So for me, that's something that doesn't come naturally. Social intelligence is a great one, but there's other types of intelligence. Yeah, well, I mean, for me, and listening to you guys and your strengths and whatnot,
Starting point is 00:23:17 it goes back to my creativity, I think, is something that really drives me in creating new things. I always have, I really have really good ideas. And I know that. And anytime somebody has a conversation with me and they're lost as far as where to go, are people that have another business and then they ask me things. I could literally sit and listen to them and their problems and then probably come up with something. And as far as we you know, we talk about neutropics, you know, what might be a
Starting point is 00:23:47 neutropic for one person might be the opposite for someone else. Right. So for example, we'll talk again about social intelligence. Let's say you have someone who has high anxiety and fear of social situations. And you give them a classic, neutropic like caffeine. You could make them more nervous and give them more anxiety.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And in reality, it would actually lower their social intelligence. It would not improve their cognitive function for that particular situation. There is a substance that is not a Neutropic that might actually work with that person. Alcohol, I know people without having a drink, they can't go to a bar and feel comfortable.
Starting point is 00:24:22 As soon as they have a drink, they loosen up and they start talking to people. It actually improves their social intelligence. You know, it's pretty interesting stuff. Well, they can't go to a bar and feel comfortable. As soon as they have a drink, they loosen up and they start talking to people. And actually, improves their social intelligence. Yeah. You know, it's pretty interesting stuff. Well, they're uninhibited, yeah. That's a funny way to look at it to say that it improves social intelligence. Nobody else would probably say it like that.
Starting point is 00:24:33 No, and it's nice. You're like, oh, I'm drunk, so I'm loosened up or what I like to have. But what really is going on chemically inside of your body? That's actually what's changing. That's funny. That's a lot of it. Which is the reason. That's crazy. Yeah, and this is why this is an exercise for me.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Like for you guys, this is like in everyday occurrence, like easy for you to kind of wrap off, like verbally what's on your mind. You know, for me, this is really an exercise and it's something I feel like I improve on and that's why. tremendously. You know, this is something that I've been trying to
Starting point is 00:25:03 make on a daily. It's something that I'm trying trying to make on a daily. It's something that I'm trying to improve, but like anything else, I know it's not one of my stronger points. I could put all my thoughts together so much better on paper, and that's why I tend to write whatever content and all these other things so much better, because I have all this time to really articulate it specifically to what I want to say. And I'm very critical of what I say.
Starting point is 00:25:27 So even going through these podcasts, I cringe at myself, but then less as I get better. So it's been a process for me. And it's an exercise, just like I'm physically training, I'm also mentally training. Okay, so I have to say, Sal, once again, you did a great job with the topic here because I have no idea what we're heading into. And sometimes I weary of the nerdiness we're going to go, but this is actually so cool because I'm sitting here listening to you talk about your strength and shared what mine was and then you mentioned Sal about being able to develop those.
Starting point is 00:26:02 And this also brings me back to one of the last podcasts that we talked about where I referenced my buddy Mark who gave me some of the best advice I had in my life, which was to focus on my strengths and be great at it. And that is before the time I started really getting into reading and I naturally just kind of fell into these books. Like I said, that we're psychology, emotional,
Starting point is 00:26:20 intelligence, things like that that were around that direction. And I just couldn't put them down. I just found it so fascinating and I understood it so well and I wanted more. I wanted more. I wanted more and I continue and I'd say what? The way that I led. So, you know, I've been a leader since I was a young kid in every position or anything that I've done.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I've always led people. And, you know, I was leading at a company where I was only 20 years old and the majority of my staff below me was all older than I was and I was pretty decent naturally at it But it wasn't until I got into my mid late 20s when I started really harnessing that and like pushing myself as far as educating and learning in that area. Oh, shit Like the way I led in the in my later years was so different. And I attribute a lot of that to a lot of what I read. And it was, like I said, it was something that I was progressing that I already love to do.
Starting point is 00:27:13 So finding your type of intelligence, what drives you, what sparks that brain and feeding that, feed that piece now, because that will take you further in life. I truly believe in it. I am so glad you brought that up again because if you if you take a child and you take what they're interested in or something that they like you look we mean Justin we have kids right. Yep. So like my I'll use my son as an example that kid my son can tell you everything about Pokemon and you'll rattle him off. He'll tell you everything about Pokemon. And you'll rattle them off.
Starting point is 00:27:45 You'll tell you every single special feature, everything. Yeah. Why? Because he likes it. It's not something we're forcing him to learn. And I'm just using that as an example. When you like something, when you're natural at something,
Starting point is 00:27:56 and you focus on it, you become great. You become amazing at it. You know, Michael Jordan was a god at basketball. He didn't become a god at basketball because he was he was good at math And I'm not down. I'm not you know downplaying other subjects and stuff like that all I'm saying is you know do those things You know because you need to pass your classes or whatnot But don't fall into the trap of you know trying to be quote unquote well-rounded You're gonna be far more successful if you take what you're good at or what you enjoy and go ahead and get crazy with it. Let your brain go wild.
Starting point is 00:28:30 And I prompt number one, you'll remember everything. You don't forget, shit you love. And number two, you'll get really good at it. You'll understand concepts that other people might not because it's something you really enjoy doing. And let's face it, the future, the future, all careers now and especially in the future are specialized. There is a one job, except for being an elementary school teacher that you need to be well-rounded. There's not going to be room for that anymore because we're cutting out all middlemen, right? That's what technology is done. The greatest decentralizer mankind has ever seen is the internet. And so specializing, no more room for good. No, you find what you love, focus on that shit.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Don't feel guilty that you're just reading 15 books a day on your favorite subject, which may be interior design or whatever, you will become great at it. And so that's one of the takeaways I could definitely say. Oh yeah, I can't help but think that, listen, listen to all of this stuff. I one of the takeaways I could I could definitely say. Oh, yeah, I can't I can't help but think that listen Listen to all this I mean even to it's funny because if Justin would you know we've shared books before we read oh read this book and it's it's so great I read I read the book and it's like this is so him
Starting point is 00:29:36 You know, right? You know, it's born from me. No, I mean I still I we still enjoy because they're normally fitness related too So I still enjoy it But you can tell it like feeds into his brain totally and then vice vice versa, you know, a book that I would reference or tell someone to read. It's like, it totally feeds into my brain. So, you know, it's, it's amazing how, you know, but here we are, we're in our 30s. You know, I'm saying that we figured this out where, you know, God, I wish I had somebody in my teens or my early 20s that was guiding me in this direction. You know, so if you're listening to this right now and you're not somebody who's already actively
Starting point is 00:30:05 reading stuff that you enjoy, and that's the powerful world, Rathers, read the shit you enjoy. Well, that's what I'm trying to say. It's like we pigeonhole intelligence, and as a result, we blunt everybody who doesn't have that stereotypical type of intelligence, we blunt their development. Because then they think, well, this is not something
Starting point is 00:30:24 that's smart. Yeah, make a uniform sort of collective. But this is what intelligence is. Yes, instead of, yeah. Everybody, look, it is 100%. I'll debate this shit all day long with people. It is 100% human nature to be hungry for knowledge. We are the most curious animals in the world.
Starting point is 00:30:41 And we are so capable of things when we're left alone to focus on things. I'll give you an example. Have you seen some of the crazy shit that people in prison come up with to smuggle drugs? Oh, yeah. Or make alcohol or whatever. These are apparently the low lives of the world, right?
Starting point is 00:30:58 Most of them don't have education. Most of them, if they didn't IQ-tracking everybody. And yet they're doing crazy stuff because they're locked in the cage, they have nothing better to do and they're able to harness and focus their mind. So, you know, you don't have to go to jail to do that. Just pick what you love.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Pick what you love. Yes, please take away. Here's your jiggle, I go to jail. You know, one of my favorite books, I'm gonna talk about one of my favorite books, is The Cosmic Serpent. I don't know if you guys have familiar with that. Nope.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Cosmic Serpent, Quick Synopsis, you know, anthropologists goes to the Amazon, he drinks Ayohasca, which has got this mind bending chemical called dimethyl tryptamine in it. And he sees all these hallucinations and he tries to basically discover, like, you know, he's trying to figure out why his hallucinations are so similar to other peoples
Starting point is 00:31:43 if they're just a figment of his own imagination Why are we all having the same experience? And so I read that book and it fascinated the shit out out of me and so I ended up learning about you know hallucinogens about reality. I started learning about the pineal gland in the brain You know what the pineal gland does why it's you know why it releases that methyl trip to me naturally and you know I'm boring you guys, but that my point point is, my point is because it was something that interested me, I know more about the pineal gland and about the chemicals that it releases like melatonin di-methyl trip to mean more than the
Starting point is 00:32:15 that definitely as much as some people who study those things. Why? Because I fucking love it. You know, so pick what you love, learn the hell out of it. And you'll and you you will you might find that you're actually a genius So are we gonna do this drug thing are you gonna give these to me for a week or what you down to do that forget the placebo I'm just gonna give them to you and then we'll see what happens All right, so what we'll do then is we'll all take them and we'll do a podcast I'm gonna have you triumph first see how you because I don't want to have a shitty podcast if just See how you, because I don't want to have a shitty podcast if just in case. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Yeah. Yeah. We're just reaccusing. Just to do the dumb stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, race attempts increase oxygen utilization and they find athletes that use them at high altitudes, perform better.
Starting point is 00:32:56 And there's some endurance athletes that say it helps them perform better and it increases red blood cells, which carries oxygen. So it might actually be a physical. Almost like a blood doping effect. It might actually have a physical, you Almost like a blood doping effect. It might actually have a physical benefit. Is it in the blood at all? It is anti-coagulant properties.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Yes, it does, it does thin the blood a little bit. So if you're going to have surgery, you might want to not take them. Or if you have issues with coagulation of blood, definitely. That's right. How are we doing on time, Doug? 35. All right, we're going to end right there.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Thanks for listening, ladies and gentlemen. You just been nerded out. Oh right in the brain. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump. For more information about this show and to get valuable free resources from Sal Adam and Justin visit us at www.mindpumpradio.com. Until next time this is Mind Pump. Until next time, this is MindPump.

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