Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1001: The Worst Diet Ever, the Truth About Powerbuilding, the Pros & Cons of Weighted Vest Training & MORE

Episode Date: April 3, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the pros & cons of training with a weighted ves...t, the benefit to mixing powerlifting with bodybuilding, the diet trend that has had the most adverse effect on society and their Enneagram type. Why Justin is a water ‘snob’. (5:54) Recap: Mind Pump Episode 1000 Extravaganza! (8:09) Justin takes the family to an air show. (11:30) Daily use of high potency marijuana linked to higher rates of psychosis, study finds. (18:42) How NED stands out above the rest when it comes to the quality of CBD. (23:03) Walgreens to sell CBD products in 1,500 stores. (25:02) Mind Pump recommends Unsolved on Netflix: The ‘Golden Era’ of rap. (27:27) Ben Pakulski and the carnivore diet: The case of just because you can, doesn’t mean you should. (34:55) The overall price comparison and benefits of Butcher Box. (39:15) Spring cleaning at the Schafer household. (43:35) #Quah question #1 – What are the pros & cons of training with a weighted vest? (55:13) #Quah question #2 – What are your opinions on powerbuilding? Do you think it’s beneficial to mix powerlifting with bodybuilding? (1:01:45) #Quah question #3 – Which diet trend do you think has had the worst adverse effect on society? (1:06:56) #Quah question #4 – What is each person’s ‘Enneagram type’? (1:19:24) People Mentioned: Paul Chek (@paul.chek)  Instagram Ben Pakulski (@bpakfitness)  Instagram Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne)  Instagram Paul Saladino, MD (@paulsaladinomd)  Instagram Ben Greenfield (@bengreenfieldfitness)  Instagram Mike Matthews (@muscleforlifefitness)  Instagram Products Mentioned: MAPS Fitness Products NED **15% off first purchase** Visit Butcherbox for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer! Lockheed U-2 - Wikipedia Daily use of high potency marijuana linked to higher rates of psychosis, study finds Walgreens to sell CBD products in 1,500 stores Unsolved | Netflix Official Site The FAST Accurate Enneagram Test — Discover Your Type! Mind Pump Free Resources

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Hey everybody, guess what? Uh, what? It's mind pump, look. It's mind pump. In this episode, we talk a lot about awesome fitness stuff,
Starting point is 00:00:22 but for the first 49 minutes, we do our introductory fun time conversation. Here's what we talked about in that first half of this episode. We gave a little recap of our thousandth episode celebration. Recorded that episode in front of a live studio audience. It was a party show. We had a lot of fun. Then Justin talked about his weekend at the air show. If you listen to that last episode, Justin talks about what it was like to be in a jet, getting his insides compressed and squeezed. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:52 The next day he went back and watched, with his kids, he gives us a little rundown. Much more relaxing. Then we talked about a study that shows that marijuana may be connected to increased psychosis in certain individuals. Now, this got me ranting about how CBD at cannabinoid found in cannabis,
Starting point is 00:01:10 but also found in the hemp plant, actually can be used to counter psychosis based off of some preliminary studies. And of course, we talk about our favorite source of healthy and legal cannabinoids. Ned. Ned produces high quality hemp oil extract that combines or it contains,
Starting point is 00:01:29 excuse me, all of the beneficial cannabinoids that you can find in hemp. And we got you a fat discount. If you go to Hello Ned, H-E-L-L-L-O-N-E-D.com-foresash-mind-pump, you'll get 15% off your first purchase. Then we're talking about how Walgreens is gonna start selling CBD.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Here we go with the CBD bubble. It's not good quality though, I bet. Oh, here it comes. We're talking about how the use of cannabis has changed over the years and why strains are so high in THC. It might be causing some of these psychotic episodes. Adam talked about a new series on Netflix about two-pock and biggie called Unsolved.
Starting point is 00:02:03 I'm excited for it. We talked about how Ben Pekolsky is now going to be eating only meat for a little while. And we hope he's getting his meat from butcher box. Butcher box delivers to your door. Grass fed high quality meats at amazing prices. In fact, if you use our link, you get an additional discount. Here's what you do. Go to butcherbox.com forward slash mind pump and you'll get $20 off and two packs of free bacon and two pounds. Ooh, that breakfast bundle of pork breakfast sausage with your first order. That's not all. You'll also get free shipping. Then Adam talked about how he moved his 500 pairs of shoes.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I wish I was exaggerating. Sal did the math, everybody. Yeah, it's crazy. Then we got into the fitness portion of this episode. The first question was, what are the pros and cons of training with a weighted vest? Are there benefits? Are there jet detriments?
Starting point is 00:03:02 And how to use a weighted vest properly to build and sculpt your body. Next question, what are our opinions on power building? Right now in the body building world, we've got some people saying that they don't body build. They power build. This is where they lift weights with heavy, heavy ass weights for low reps.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I reckon things up now. They might be. They might be. Are there benefits? Are there debt sermons? Find out in that part of this episode. Next question, somebody's asking us, which diet trend we think has caused
Starting point is 00:03:28 the biggest problems adverse effects in society. We talk about veganism, we talk about paleo, we talk a little bit about keto, and then we talk about, of course, the modern Western diet, which is pretty much made everybody fat. And the final question, what is each of our enneagram type? So we all took a pause, did a test online, and we all reveal what our enneagrams are.
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Starting point is 00:04:27 Let's say you wanna sculpt your body like a body builder. That's maps aesthetic or maps split. Let's say you wanna move like an athlete, like your favorite part about working out is how awesome you can move. You wanna do different kinds of exercises, you wanna have fun in the gym, that's maps performance.
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Starting point is 00:05:51 Thanks for your support! I have a question for Justin. What's that? The question. You know, you don't seem like a, what's the word? Like a fitness guy. Yeah. Fuck you man.
Starting point is 00:06:04 That's not what I was gonna man. That's how it doesn't say. That's my fucking dick. Is that how we're gonna open the shop? I don't know how I feel about it. You're not like a boozy kind of person, you're not really picky about certain things. But I do notice that you will only drink two types of water.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Oh yeah. Avion or Fiji. Yeah. Nothing else. Rightion or Fiji. Yeah. Nothing else. Right. You're a little bit of a water, what do they call it? What would it be? Like a water?
Starting point is 00:06:32 Snob. Snob. Yeah. Why? I don't know. They just taste better. Really? Is that it?
Starting point is 00:06:40 Well it's that. And also I remember Paul Chek when he was on, like, I don't think he brought up on the show, but we were like out of the grocery store. I just watched what he buys and his justifications for it. And he like did this whole spiel about Avion and why it was like superior and I was like, okay, I'm sold. Did he really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Oh, well, I'm drinking Avion now. Did you see? Yeah, he brought it up. I knew he was drinking Avion, but I don't know that he had reason for it. Yeah, there was some reason for it in terms of how they source it. I know. I don't remember the specifics. I just was like, no, I can confirm. I remember it too. I remember it was,
Starting point is 00:07:12 is it enough for me to go the next time I went Bob Watt, that's what I bought for sure. Yeah, like there's a choice for it. I usually like, I'm drawn to that more than, you know, the rest of the options. You want to take a shower on it? Yeah. Which makes so much money that your bathtub full. Yeah. It's like, it's like, it's an Avion backwards naive on it? Yeah. Make so much money that your bathtub's full of water. Yeah. It's like, go on. It's like, it's an avion backwards naïve.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Wow. Yep. No, I'm just kidding. It is not, is it really? Naïve, no, it's not. Yeah, no, it's kind of, I mean, just a little bit. Yeah, no. The thing about doubles ingers today,
Starting point is 00:07:36 the thing about water and plastic bottles that has just got discovered not that long ago, that bothers me a lot, is that they find microplastics in all bottles of water. And it's because of the processing of how they cap the bottles and put like little shards of plastic. It makes sense.
Starting point is 00:07:52 tend to get in there and that goes in your body and it stays in your body. And then they warm up. So I have an answer for all of this, don't worry. You do. It's coming for you guys. Oh, I know. I'm not thinking that it's right.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Taylor and I have been working on something. Oh, that's right. I know all about there. It's right. Taylor and I have been working on something. Oh, that's right. I know all about that. Dude, so that, that thousandth episode was a good time, huh? Yeah, always a great time. Oh, that's so nice. Dude, having people in here, so much fun, man.
Starting point is 00:08:14 What great people there were. I really, really enjoy talking to them, meeting them, and just seeing faces. Because, you know, we're on the podcast. We're talking out into the ether, and we don't necessarily see the people who were, you know, listening to us and podcast, we're talking out into the ether and we don't necessarily see the people who are, you know, listening to us and impacting, who we're impacting or whatever. We get to meet, we had 15 people here in the studio. Some of them as far as New York, Boston and Florida. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Yeah, I thought it was Easter. Yeah, good for them. I was, you know what, I was surprised is I really anticipated. So, you know, for anyone to fly that far away, I thought for sure would be like our OG OGs, people that have been around since, you know, my pump one, right? But there was only a maybe two or three that had listened to all the episodes.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Most of them were like six months to a year. Yeah, yeah, that I was not, I was not prepared for that. I thought for sure I would recognize all the faces and know them all because they've been in our form for two, three years, because we have a, you know, when the form originally grew, the three of us were able to talk to those 10 people all the time, right?
Starting point is 00:09:20 And then it was 50, still communicating. Even in the few hundred, right? When even there was about 300 or so and there I felt like I knew all of them by first name and knew them well. So to see the group that we had that showed up, I thought that, it makes me really excited for my pump MMOsas now.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Oh yeah. Because this was a very young crowd. I mean, they were all like 20s. I don't know if anybody here was in their 30s. No, they were all in their 20s. One guy was 20. had just turned 20. It just turned 20. Yeah, such a young, beautiful face.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Yeah, no, it was fun. It was slightly inappropriate. It was a good time. Drank him a compliment. Yeah, how did you guys feel about how we were, you know, with the crowd in front of us? I thought it was kind of cool, right? We were amped a little.
Starting point is 00:10:01 A little hyper. Yeah, they got us energized. Well, we also, I mean, when was the last time we drank on an episode? I know, I'm gonna put it out there. It's a little bit of a throwback. Yeah, we had, I can't remember the last time that we drank. I mean, we used to, the funny part was that we used to do it
Starting point is 00:10:14 to calm nerves early on when we first started. This was at a celebration, totally. But I think we're better sober. Not so typical, yeah. I think we're better sober. I think so. You know what it is? I think when you're drinking and you're buzzed, you feel like you're better so I think we're better sober. I think so you know, you know what it is I think when you're when you're drinking and you're buzzed you feel like you're better while you're doing it
Starting point is 00:10:30 Then afterwards you listen to I think that's in a lot of things I don't think it's just podcasting you like when you smoke a joint Yeah, they had a shit talking ramps up quite a bit You're like I got a great idea and you're like ride it out and the next day when you're sober you read the idea and you're like I got a great idea and you're like, right it out and the next day when you're sober, you read the idea and you're like, hmm, try angle tires, why did I write that down? I mean, in no sense whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:10:49 You need to be around. You know, this was the, this of all the events we've done though, the least exhausted I was afterwards. I wasn't so bad. Yeah. I thought that I thought I would be really tired afterwards normally when we talked for a really long time
Starting point is 00:11:02 like that or with lots of things. Because there's so much energy. Yeah. Yeah. It was kind of weird because I was coming from that flight to the next day for this event. And I was looking forward to that event actually like for a long time because I don't know, I just love having like in studio. The energy everybody brings with that was like exciting, but it was like, I almost had
Starting point is 00:11:21 this like adrenaline dump, you know, the next day and I was like, it took me a while. I ran it back up. But yeah, was it just you doing anything this week or are you just tired? Yeah, I actually went to the air show on Saturday and I did that mainly because of the kids that kids had so many questions about what it was like for me on the plane and everything.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And I was like, let's just go. We got these tickets, he offered to give me these tickets, like VIP to go in and check out like what they actually do. And so I'm really glad I did. We brought the two cousins with us as well. And just checked out all these cool planes and everything. But I think I got to hang out and say hi for a second. So how different have you been to air shows before?
Starting point is 00:12:01 No, that was for some other way. Oh, okay. Well, what was the experience like having been on one of those planes, you know, the air shows before? No, that was for some other day. Oh, okay. Well, what was the experience like having been on one of those planes, you know, two days before, or what? Like, how was that experience seeing it now from the outside? Oh, yeah, it brought it full circle for me. It was crazy, because you could see how like
Starting point is 00:12:17 intricate and disciplined they were and their flight patterns and like, how orchestrated everything was. It was so fucking like impressive, knowing what that probably feels like in the cockpit, you know? And so yeah, I was just cool, because then now like Courtney was a little bit like super excited, you know, she was like trying to,
Starting point is 00:12:36 oh, did you know this guy, and like trying to like point out the pilots walking by, and like she's still calm down. I'm trying to blend in. She's trying to, you know, I was just trying to be like a fly in a wall kind of a thing, and she's like, I'm trying to like, oh, let's still calm down. I'm trying to blend in. She's trying to, you know, I was just trying to be like, a fly in a wall kind of a thing. And she's like, I'm trying to like,
Starting point is 00:12:47 oh, let's go talk to you. I'm like, no, no, just let me chill out. It's just me, the hot fighter, I mean, the cool guy, that's, honestly, that's what's happened. Just like the rodeo thing, now it's this thing. It's like, oh, all these guys in uniform and whatever. And she's getting all hot and bothered by it. Yeah, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Did you, you should ask it to keep the jumpsuit. I know, right? I should have. Yeah, that would have been smart. The one that was snug on the cakes. Maybe I'll ask them on the cake. You guys got an extra one you're throwing out, you know, I could use this. That's a lot for damage.
Starting point is 00:13:15 But anyway, so your kids enjoyed the show, everybody enjoyed the show. Dude, they had so much fun, man. It was exhausting as I could. Dude, like you could walk for 20 minutes and not even get to half of what was there. And it was just it was great. I bought them these little like toy fighter jets thunder, thunder jets and so they were like super into it. But these those guys are surgeons in the air. I've been to a couple shows and when you watch the precision, you realize like there's not even,
Starting point is 00:13:45 there is zero room for error in what they're doing. But then to hear from Justin, what it feels like to be under those Gs and the pressure of flying, how on the fuck are they able to operate? That is just mind blowing to me. Yeah, it's so crazy. It's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And watching them all do that and like all the different stunts, they did all these stunts. I didn't even know they had in the lineup. They just like threw them in there and it was cool because they would have them like one like a group of four would come and everybody's eyes are on that but don't see the two that are just about to cross right in front of you like real close and they it's like a distraction thing.
Starting point is 00:14:22 You know, you're like looking out here and then all of a sudden, they just surprise you with that. And you jump out of your seat. So I remember one, I went to, I think it was Blue Angels and you're looking over here and not even realize that one's coming from over here. Hell a fast, super fast. And that shit goes, flies over you so fast that the sound followed.
Starting point is 00:14:37 So it's like, then, oh shit! Crazy. And they had a F-22 Raptor, like, doing just by himself, like, just showstopper. Like, everybody was just like, oh my god, it's a spaceship, just what it can do. Now, are these shows, I would imagine these shows
Starting point is 00:14:52 are totally funded by the military, right? It was free. It was crazy, yeah. Well, I mean, the military pays for all this, like, the planes, they pay the pilots through this. Yeah. This is, I mean, you think about it. There was a hundred thousand people there. It's obviously to attract young kids.
Starting point is 00:15:07 It's smart, propaganda. It's great recruiting. Yeah, because we have a voluntary military. And so they, like a business, they have to spend money on positive PR. So did you know that if you were to make a movie, let's say we were all gonna make a movie about a war or something like that,
Starting point is 00:15:22 if we showed our military in a good light that we could actually ask them for money and they would actually give us money to make a movie that would show them in a good light. They actually do that. Interesting. Isn't that wild? We'll have to make it.
Starting point is 00:15:37 What is the difference between blue angels and thunderbirds, navy and air force? Oh really? Oh okay, I didn't know that. Same planes, right? Are the same planes? I think they're the same type. Yeah, I heard too that the blue angels
Starting point is 00:15:49 actually don't wear any G-suits. And so their whole thing is they have to work on this core ability to be able to handle all those forces. Oh my God. Yeah, the cockpits different, I guess, in their planes. So which ones, which? I don't know whose. Who's their Air forces thunderbirds?
Starting point is 00:16:05 And then, yeah, Blue Angels are Navy. Now, is there, is there like, like, a little bit of internal competitiveness amongst them? They, oh, I'm sure. Oh, are you kidding me? You're, they love to compete with each other for shit. Oh, yeah, as a tons of rival, right? So the horses are hornets.
Starting point is 00:16:20 They buy, yeah, F-A-18 hornet. Yeah, different planes. That's what the Blue Angels are. Yeah, yeah, F-18 Hornet. Yeah, different plane. That's what the blue angels are. Yeah, yeah, very cool. That's all, have you guys ever read the stories of back during the Cold War, how we had the special spy plane that we made? And I think Doug maybe can look this up,
Starting point is 00:16:37 I think it was called the U2 spy plane. Yeah. And we would fly this thing so fast and so high, like literally almost in space. Yeah, the border of the atmosphere. Yeah, and they would fly it and then they'd spy on the Soviet Union, but apparently to fly this thing and to be able to do this was insane.
Starting point is 00:16:57 So the guy who flew this was like this crazy, crazy fighter pilot who got all these athletes. He had no oxygen up there. Yeah, like just going up and then coming out of that, you know, into the atmosphere, that's the plane right there. It's the U2 Cold War spy plane. How high did that thing go? Maybe we can look up the high,
Starting point is 00:17:14 but I would remember reading about this and during that time, and I believe it was these spy planes that saw the missiles going into Cuba, 70,000 feet. Totally. That's way up there. Wow. That is insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:30 And then there's rumors that they have planes that are, because you know, we have submarines that are nuclear power, which means that it could basically be out in the ocean. Like in death. 10,000 years. They never have to come back and fuel or anything. It's the out of the forever.
Starting point is 00:17:44 I heard they were like, they, like they never have to like come back and fuel or I heard they were like they had like drone like summer. Yeah, things like that that are supposed to be like roaming eventually. We just indefinitely you put them in the ocean. The nuclear power later and they're there. And K. Shit goes down trips me out or they'll they'll have like a plane that could just fly above forever. I mean, I would guess it's already happening probably probably probably we have the time. I wonder what kind of secret shit they have
Starting point is 00:18:05 that we don't even know about. Like when the first Iraq war happened, what was the Gulf storm? Was that the first one? When we did the, what were those stealth bombers? That's the first time we saw stealth bombers, dropping bombs, that technology apparently they had that for like 30, 40 years, long time ago.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Yeah, all it's Area 51. Yeah, exactly. All that had that for like 3040 years long time. Yeah, yeah all it area 51 Yeah, exactly all that out and apparently aliens and apparently they are the ones that put out the alien Counter of course because they want to distract the public. Yeah, they don't want you leaking information to Russians Dude so crazy talking about all this crazy stuff reminds me the study that I read over the weekend So this big study came out and I believe it was out of the UK, that connected high levels of or high frequent use of strong marijuana to psychosis. So what they found was that when people predetermined people towards psychosis, like epigenetic wise, or...
Starting point is 00:19:03 No, they don't think they went that far, but what they're finding is they're connecting people who use a lot of weed with more higher instances of symptoms of psychosis. And this is a pretty, it was a decently well-made study, but it also goes in line with other studies. Now, can you define psychosis? Yeah. It gets a frania, you know, psychotic thoughts, you know, high levels of paranoia, that kind of stuff. I tell you what, I don't doubt it. I know how I have felt on too much
Starting point is 00:19:36 cannabis, especially when you go deep. Yeah. I know what that can do. And you know what they're making now. I mean, we've, of course, like always of dabbing and they're, yeah, the concentrate. I mean, I've felt that way off of just smoking too much marijuana. Like if I, when I, the first time I got introduced to it, it's such a bad experience with it because I didn't, I didn't lost your mind. Yeah, it was awful. Just way too much and paranoid like crazy. Never felt that before. And that was just off of the flower. I can't imagine if somebody would have introduced me to something like the dabbing like that.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Well, here's the problem. That's a big part of the problem. Big part of the problem is we have, people are seeking out cannabis mainly for its, and you're seeing more people now using it for other reasons, but mainly for its intoxicating effects. And so what ends up happening is we keep breeding marijuana to be stronger and stronger in THC, and we stop paying attention to other things.
Starting point is 00:20:32 So to counter this study, because I've had people send this to me, and I think it's true. People smoke a lot of strong, high THC weed, and if they're already kind of predisposed a little bit, which people who smoke a lot, here's the thing you want to consider. People who smoke a lot of strong weed probably already have some issues, right? That doesn't, like, like, an average person. Didn't you tell me to do, I mean, I've been doing this, at least, tell me if I'm using my, my Ned wrong, but, you know, anytime I have, like, a real high THC strain that I smoke, I just automatically go over to my, my Ned dropper and I dropped like one drop
Starting point is 00:21:06 in. Oh, it's just going to say studies then the there's lots of studies that are showing that CBD Changes the brain patterns of people with psychosis to look more like normal brain patterns and They've done other studies where people who use CBD with T.H.C. far less instances of psychosis, even during high amounts of use. So CBD itself has kind of this counter balancing effect. And we know that CBD by itself
Starting point is 00:21:36 has got some inzealitic properties and kind of calming properties, but it also kind of balances out some of the potential negatives. I read another study that showed that CBD with high THC cannabis reduces or minimizes the short-term memory loss that you get with mitigates. A lot of those. Yeah, and here's the thing, this is an interesting thing now.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Natural marijuana for a long time was not super high in THC. Yeah, we bred it to be that way. We did. You know, if you go back just, you know, 50 years strong cannabis, I mean, it existed where there was cannabis, that was like 15% THC, but most of the stuff you bought on the street was like 5% THC, 7%. And so you talk to people who smoked weed in the 60s and 70s and they'll say, oh yeah, I used to smoke a whole joint and I'd get kind of high. Now if I take one hit, like I got to be careful.
Starting point is 00:22:26 And so what happened is over time the black market is really what did this. Whenever you have something that's a black market because it's restricted, it tends to get much stronger. Like if you buy opiates in the black market, they're going to give you a strong dose versus if you were to get it, you know, prescription or if it was more of kind of an open market type deal. And so people just bread marijuana to get stronger and stronger and stronger to now where, I mean, when I got my ex-mother-law had cancer and I went to the cannabis store to buy her
Starting point is 00:22:55 marijuana, I remember the strong strains were like 18% cannabis. So what do you think? Now I'm seeing 23% of THC. So how much of the net do you think I should use? So they have what the three different levels, right? It goes 250 milligrams, it goes, I think seven. That's total cannabinoids are counting. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:23:13 1,500 is a strong one. Right, then 1,500. So I've had all of them, right? I have the 50. I would go one full dropper full with cannabis, knowing how much you use. So I measure two, because I've been taking NID a lot with my morning, like, Nitro.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Oh great, as a combo, and I feel like it helps to kind of mitigate a little bit of the shakiness, you know, involved with like a high dose of caffeine for me. Where, didn't you, did you try that, you sent a picture over some company. I did, and it had an infused, right? I was infused it with hemp oil, so that was interesting. I thought it was interesting.
Starting point is 00:23:47 It wasn't bad flavor, it wasn't bad experience. So it's something that I thought was kind of interesting. See, I would just rather use the net where I can control it. I can do it when I smoke, I can do it in when I'm having coffee. I can do it how I want to feel. Well, the thing you had to keep in mind, that's always interesting to me is that, you know, the plant naturally, the way it grew naturally, it was much more balanced.
Starting point is 00:24:08 We just bred it to squeeze out as much THC as possible. But if you've got some of this old cannabis that's high in CBD and it's got CBD and THC, far less likely to have some of these negative side effects. Now, as far as supplementing CBD from hemp oil, which I think is the way to do it, here's the problem with that. And I've said this a lot of times. The hemp oil stuff that's on the market is garbage for the most part. The only one that I've been satisfied with, and that's why we're working with them, is Ned. Ned actually provided us with independent lab tests.
Starting point is 00:24:41 When you look at those tests, you see, oh, here's all the cannabinoids, here's so much CBD, here's how much CBC, here's how much, you know, the terpenes that are in there. So you know, you get it because these other hemp oils are just, and I can tell, I've used to do it for the garbage. The hustle, it's still it's so new. There's throwing it in everything. Everyone's pixie dust and pixie dusting everything, right? Did you guys see what's going on with Walgreens? Walgreens is just announced that they'll be carrying over 1,500 stores will now be selling CBD products. It's blowing up stream. Yeah, it is blowing up. You gotta remember to ask our our net guys if they're gonna get in there because that's probably be a huge huge contract for them to to land something like. Yeah, I wonder because I'm sure like they're probably gonna get like a lot of the I mean they get the cheaper type
Starting point is 00:25:24 supplements to begin with, you know, like the protein powders and all that. So it'd be interesting to see if they get quality stuff in their verses just like the cheap shit. Yeah, what it, you know what this reminds me of is, like for example, years ago a supplement came out into the muscle building world, and it was called Echti Sterone,
Starting point is 00:25:44 which is this plant, hormone. It's also found in insects. And in human studies, some old Soviet era human studies showed that it built muscle and strength. So, you had all these supplement companies when those studies came out. This was back in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:25:59 All these supplement companies like, oh, we sell Echti Stereon. People were taking it and they're like, it doesn't work. Now, the reason why they said that is because it didn't really have Echti Stereon, because when you took the real Echti-Staron, people were taking it and they're like, it doesn't work. Now, the reason why they said that is because it didn't really have Acti-Staron, because when you took the real Acti-Staron, it was expensive, and you could feel
Starting point is 00:26:09 that it actually worked. This is what's gonna happen with CBD, because everybody says they have it and it's shit, and they're putting like one milligram or nothing in there. People are gonna use it and they're like, it didn't work, it didn't help me with my anxiety, I didn't get better sleep, I didn't have less inflammation,
Starting point is 00:26:23 and they're gonna be like CBDs and work. No, you didn't even, you didn't really have sleep, I didn't have less inflammation, and there are gonna be like CBDs and work. No, you didn't really have CBD, you gotta go with like quality, otherwise you're not gonna get anything, it's just gonna be fatty acid. Well, and still going back to what we always say about any supplementing with anything, you still gotta take care of all the big rocks first.
Starting point is 00:26:40 I mean, if you're using CBD oil for recovery and to bring down know, bring down anxiety within your sleep in four hours a night. Right. You're sleeping for a night. You're eating shit food. You're not exercising. You've got poor relationships. You've got all these other things that are happening. It's like, I had a buddy of mine who, you know, years ago, I gave him a map of Santa Bolic to test when I first created that program and he was giving me his progress and he's like, yeah, I'm not really seeing any progress. I'm not getting stronger.
Starting point is 00:27:10 So I'm like, what does your day look like? Like, what are you doing? The guy was eating like thousand calories a day, he was getting no sleep and I was like, yeah, dude, of course I'm not going to fucking work, bro. You're going to get some sleep and start eating some damn food. Right, you're going to take care of yourself. It's not miraculous, right? You gotta get some sleep and start eating some damn food. Right, you gotta take care of yourself. Yeah, yeah. It's not miraculous, right?
Starting point is 00:27:26 You guys see the two-pock and biggie Netflix series? What? So listen to this. So my cousin, I text my cousin the other night, if you had watched any new movies or Netflix series that maybe I hadn't heard of. And he was telling, first he told me, he's like, you know, Aquaman was decent.
Starting point is 00:27:45 He goes, if you haven't watched that, watched that. And he goes, I assume you watched the two-pock, Biggie thing already. And I was like, nah, I didn't watch that. And he's like, what? He's like, I think you're like Mr. Two-pock. You love, I said, that's why I didn't watch it. I said, I've pretty much seen every,
Starting point is 00:28:00 I have, I own all the documentaries on both Biggie and Two-pock, I've pretty much read and watched everything out there on them and stuff's kind of like, you know What else are they gonna tell you and he's like oh go watch it? So it's all like the conspiracy of everything dude. It's that good. It's a ten-part series. I'm on nine I benged fucking nine hours of this shit over the last two days. You did it. Yes I did. It's that good. Okay. It's really, really good.
Starting point is 00:28:27 It's reenacted. So they have real actors. So that made it really good too, just because it was done by real actors. Maybe I'll watch that tonight. And they get into so much more stuff that I just did not have any clue about. And I don't want to spoil any of it. But if you're somebody who cared about that story or was interested in that story at all,
Starting point is 00:28:49 that series was, and I passed it over like three or four times because I was like, I'll get to it. I'm not really, I've heard everything already. No, this is, yeah, I like this trend of revisiting, like, yeah, these, yeah, these major events and things, like we didn't get all those details. Yes, they were withholding a lot of information. And I didn't realize that his mom opened up the case in 2007 again.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Oh, did she? Soot, soot, soot, LAPD or Compton PD for 400 million. Oh, wow. Yeah. So they get into all of that. And they, and they, so they take it, they, they, they tell the story really cool because they tell it like past Present and they kind of hop back and forth like what was going on back then when it was happening And then so they have they have like two pop and biggie acting in it, you know, or like people that are acting as them
Starting point is 00:29:36 And then it's like 2007 the the cops that are digging through the case and trying to figure out where the ball got dropped and How is it possible to the most famous people in the fucking- We don't know who the fuck we don't know who did it, like how is this possible? I think people know who did it. They just don't want it. They just don't want, nobody wants to talk.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Yeah, 100%. That whole world, you know what I mean? It's like the mafia, like cover it. For sure. For sure, for sure, a worth, if you like that, if you're into the Biggie two-pock story at all, best documentary series I've seen yet on it by far. It's called Unsolved. Unsolved. It's on Netflix. If you know what this makes me think of, is do you guys ever think that these people
Starting point is 00:30:18 be regarded as amazing and groundbreaking and breakthrough if they were still alive? Yes. You think so? Oh oh not even in close of for sure Well two-pock for sure, but biggie. I mean big like no disrespect biggie was great But I don't I don't know how people compare him to two-pock two-pock had way more well I'm with you on that because I'm I was more of a two-pock fan and just stylistically they're very different right. I mean, I love biggie. Don't get me wrong. Yeah. Just he didn't have nearly as much. I mean, what people forget, I mean, they died at 20. It was so poetic.
Starting point is 00:30:48 24 and 25. I mean, they both, they both died so young and they did so much in that short period of time. I mean, they're teenage years to early 20s. But you think that if they didn't die, that they would still be regarded the way they are. Because sometimes that happens, you know what I mean? Like, like, Nirvana, great band. I wonder if you know Kirk Kubain dying made them elevated them to like, oh they're the
Starting point is 00:31:12 kings of alternative or you know whatever. You know, I wonder if that does something. Well, I think it does, right? I think it does to a point. But I think they had already accomplished so much at there where before they died That they could have just stopped making albums live for the rest of life and they still now would they be as Reveared as they are now. I don't know. Maybe maybe not. I mean, that's a good question But I think that they would have went down in history as some of the best rappers no matter no matter what regardless I wonder what they would rank Like I wonder how two-pock would be today.
Starting point is 00:31:45 You know, would he be like, I mean like Jay Z's. Would he be like that? Yeah, like super revered, but it's like he's kind of in a part of his career where everybody's like kind of, you know, wait, wait, wait for something like Jay Z's just a business, I mean, brilliant businessman.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Right. Same thing with Dr. Dre and, you know, I wonder if they would go that route. Well, two-pock was that way too. He was already getting into making movies and producing his own movies. I mean, the guy's 24 or 20 years old. He was in poetic justice, right?
Starting point is 00:32:09 Yeah, bro, he was, so they were, they were business, he was business savvy himself too. He was about making money and, and that was before all, like Jay-Z and these guys are now older, wiser, been around the game longer. Like it's, it's like what I'm seeing with the NBA players now too. It's like, we had to go through that.
Starting point is 00:32:24 There was a window of like maybe 20 years when these athletes and rap stars or you could literally come from being straight out of the ghetto to also making millions of dollars within a one, two year. Imagine what an adjustment that is for those kids that were teenagers in the ghetto than two years later, living the high life.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Like enough of those have happened now and have gone to the top and crashed that I think there's gonna be a kind of a playbook there now. Yeah, I think they're getting, I think most of the kids are getting wiser now. And that's not something I'm different. Right, and it's not to say that there's still a ton of them are not going bankrupt
Starting point is 00:32:59 and you know, spending all their money on cars and wheels and shit like that, but there definitely is, I think a change of, for the better, that they're getting wiser and investing their money and you're seeing this more and more in both the MBA and what's the best. Well, I think it's in the best interest of the record labels because a dead artist, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:18 isn't gonna make you as much as someone who can produce and live, I mean, in some cases, they really squeeze a shit out of Tupac, didn't they? But he had a lot of content that he made that never aired. So they could keep dipping into that well. That's where a lot of the conspiracies come after, right? Like, he's still alive somewhere else. They had like the hologram of him touring.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Having lunch with Elvis. Yeah, yeah. Yes, right? No, Elvis dying on the shitter. Would you consider that the golden age, because like, in bodybuilding, there's the golden age, right? You have the golden age of movies. And you know, would you consider that
Starting point is 00:33:50 to be the golden age of rap? Oh, absolutely. You think so? Absolutely. It doesn't have the influence that I used to write. I mean, you know me, I'm the first to argue with you about rap is bad or dead today. I don't agree with that, but I definitely would agree
Starting point is 00:34:02 that that was the golden era for sure of rap. Like they just they elevated it to a new level when it first came on the scene. Um, it was catchy. It was cool. It was whatever, but, uh, two-pock and biggie really elevated it to a whole other love, especially from a poetic. I mean, the stuff that, um, two-pock was, was singing about and writing about when he talked, he was into politics and stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Okay. Twenty something and he was a very well read kid. So the stuff that he was, he was conveying within his songs, I think, was, and it's not to say the guys before weren't because they were talking about things that were really happening on the streets in real life and they brought to the culture something that I think a lot of the US was just naive to. And I think that is huge and did did great things for music. But yeah, man, that era, that generation right there was was was crazy. You know, I totally switched subjects. I was, I was talking to
Starting point is 00:34:58 Ben Pekolsky. You see that he started the carnivore diet. Did he really? He just had. Why? We're going gonna have to connect with, is it Paul, Saldeno, or something? I've already, he debated. I heard that name getting thrown around. He debated Lane and rumor has it. I haven't watched. He did well.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Yeah, I heard that he won the debate. Yeah, that's what people have been sharing with me. Now, of course, I'm sure the diehard Lane fans disagree or whatever, but I heard that he did a lot better than Sean Baker and then who else did lane and oh lane went with our boy Dom. They said that this debate was really good and he's been on a couple of shows. And he was on Ben Greenfields and then Greenfields now all like carnivore. Right. So he went on Ben Greenfields, Ben went
Starting point is 00:35:42 on a kick like that afterwards. Then he went over to Pekolsky's podcast did Pekolsky's and then Pekolsky Was on a kick for a while or he's on a kick right now of doing it So I've been wanting to touch bases with them. See how it's going. I just don't it's one of those cases where Just because you can't doesn't mean you should like can you survive on just eating meat? Yeah, you can the human body can survive on just eating meat for Yeah, you can. The human body can survive on just eating meat. For a little while, we evolved that way. Does that make it ideal? No, I don't think so at all, not at all.
Starting point is 00:36:12 But I think there's cases where it might be for some people, not a lot of people though, but like you talk about someone like Michaela Peterson or Jordan Peterson who have such severe immune reactions to food that it's way better for them to just eat me and nothing else. They feel way, way better. But for the most people, I think it's a terrible idea to just limit. Besides the fact that, okay, look, we can debate whether or not it's healthier or not,
Starting point is 00:36:36 and I think it's healthier to eat a variety of foods, and most of the evidence is on my side. But besides that, the psychological piece, I can't think of anything more restrictive than that. You're gonna get a bunch of people going carnivore and then rebounding and binging nuts when they go off of it. Yeah, I mean, I go in through it too. Like I'm a meat eater.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Like I haven't stopped since, you know, even going on the carnivore diet in terms of like including a lot of, you a lot of meat on the regular and that being the focus of my meals. But I just remember it was so much. I never got really a custom to that volume of meat. It was a lot of meat you had to eat in order to even build up your calorie base to match probably like even close to where you're at right now going on it. So that's why people lose weight. That's why they love it. You know, if you really peel it down and you consider people that we've worked with, clients, you consider the how the human psyche is around food.
Starting point is 00:37:41 One thing that people really like is simplicity. Just tell me what to do or tell me what not to eat. And it doesn't get any more simple than. Yes, great diet for that. Yeah, just eat meat. I mean, yeah, sweet, I can do this. Yeah, just eat meat. And for some people, it might even be a relief
Starting point is 00:37:59 because of the information overload you get from everything else. Totally. And to confusion and what do I eat? And I don't want to count macros and I don't know what's going on. Oh, you mean I like to do is eat meat? I can do that. Done.
Starting point is 00:38:11 I'll just eat meat. As long as they're eating high quality meat though. I think that's not stressed enough though. Oh, I bet. Yeah, get your grass fed meat. It makes it actually, especially if all you're eating is meat. But your box has got to be loving all these people that are. Yeah. That's why you're running ads like crazy your boxes got to be loving all these people that are
Starting point is 00:38:28 Yes, why running ads like crazy for the carnivore? I'm sure they do they probably target the shit out of these people. I mean, I would yeah No, I don't I don't think that they I don't think they should attach themselves to the carnivore diet though That would be a bad idea, but your boss say they aren't not to attach literally no to it. Well, what do you mean by it to attach? Literally, I mean if you're gonna do the carnivore diet, do but they're better off sponsoring people who are doing that, but if you attach yourself to such an extreme diet, as soon as the backlash comes, which it will, like they all do.
Starting point is 00:38:53 I don't know, could it be that bad? Considering that they pretty much only sell meat, so it's not like it's gonna shoot them in the foot ever. I don't see how it would be a bad thing. I mean, it's high quality high source meat, but for like any diet though, that's the thing, like you don't see how it would be a best. I mean, it's high quality, high source, you know, but for like any diet though, like that's the thing, like you don't want to pigeonhole. Yeah, it's definitely will do best. That's I lived off that stuff. I got my cousin signed up for Butcherbox this weekend. We were
Starting point is 00:39:14 actually talking about, you know, grass fed beef and organic and this and that. And he says, what's the most important thing? I said, well, when I talk to people that I trust, like Paul Check, for example, or, you know, Chris Cresser, they say grass what's the most important thing? I said, well, when I talk to people that I trust, like Paul Check, for example, or Chris Cresser, they say GrassFed is the most important thing when you're looking at meat and so butcher box is good. And so I had them going online. And so first of all, the promotion change. You guys see what they're doing now?
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah, it's like a breakfast something. What's it called? Yeah, it's like a breakfast bundle. So you get two packs of bacon and two pounds of pork breakfast sausage with your first order and then what a pork yeah 20 dollars off so they're hooking it up But anyway, we're going on and my cousins my cousin is a you know, he's a finance guy, right? He does people's
Starting point is 00:39:58 Yeah, he does their their account management and wealth and all that stuff and he's a total numbers guy So I see him on his phone management, wealth and all that stuff. And he's a total numbers guy. So I see him on his phone, you know, adding up like, how much it cost? Because what he wants to do is he wants to go buy a cow and freeze it or he wants to go to. Yeah, I mean, Courtney did cost go and I was like,
Starting point is 00:40:11 I don't think you can beat that. So, well, he's doing the math and he's like, they're not bad. Is it comparable? Yeah, and he goes, it's not bad. Well, when you buy a cow, you gotta go in and out with people, you gotta go to the butcher, pay the butcher to,
Starting point is 00:40:23 right, you need at least two to three families. Yeah, and then the butcher cuts it for you and vacuum seals it, and then you have to have a big freezer. And I'm like, dude, they ship this, they'll send you a box to your door, once a month or once every other month, you pick what you want, here's the cost, he's doing the math, and he's like,
Starting point is 00:40:37 this is not bad, this is really good. And I said, yeah, and it's fucking quality, dude. And you can change up the variety. That was the one thing about when we went in, it's like, we were stuck with only certain cuts, and it was like, it got like, oh, tiresome when you had just the same cuts all the time. So, yeah, butcher box, you can kind of go in
Starting point is 00:40:55 and like alternate like what you want. That's crazy, it's even competitive with that at all. Cause I would think that it doesn't get a better deal than to go straight to a cow. Well, like I said, you gotta count, you you got a good, you got to go in with a family, you got a hire a butcher who's going to cut, tell them what they want, cut it for you, vacuum seal it, then you freeze it. When you add all that up versus it gets delivered to my door, it's already sourced, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:18 high quality. Like you can't beat that. Well, my favorite part too is how they do the different cadences because we've manipulated that many times now. So we first started off, I think we were getting it every single month and then I realized that, oh, we were probably doing it in the other month. Every other month, you can go every three. So, you know, I have clients too that, you know, they're by them, I have single, like
Starting point is 00:41:37 someone who's a single or by themself and they're like, I don't know if I want to do something that's coming every single month. Like, no, you can do it every three months to get your meat and last you over the next three months. I think that's just, so it's cool how you can change that. So have you guys noticed any difference to have you guys done experiments? Well, you'll eat like a lot of traditional grain fed beef versus a lot of grass fed, just to see how you feel different.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I can't, I can't really tell because when I, when I make the decision not to eat grass fed, I'm also, I'm also doing something bad too, like having the cheese and the burger. It's like a burger. Oh, I'm so interested. You know what I'm saying? You have an isolated. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:42:11 I haven't isolated enough to be able to say, like, wow, I notice a big difference when I eat grass fed. You can taste the difference for sure. Well, grain fed has got more fat. And it tends to have that tasty. That's the hardest sales pitch, I think, for people to get people to go grass fed is that understanding that you know the the fattier shit that they're They're pumped full of grain is gonna give it is gonna have more flavor to them for sure
Starting point is 00:42:33 Well, the butcher boxes the best grass fed that 100% that was what made me fall in love with them when we first We first signed up with them. I was like, oh man. This is the best grass fed beef I've ever had. So I've done it to where we'll go to Costco and we'll get there meat. And it's not bad quality, but it's grain-fed. And I'll eat large quantities of it, and I just feel more, and this is my own experience, my anecdote, okay. I just feel like my digestion isn't as good,
Starting point is 00:42:59 and I get kind of lethargic in comparison. Like when I eat a big grass fed steak, when I eat the rib eyes from Butcherbuck, I don't feel this quite is like, oh, like I just ate, you know what I mean? I just wanna give a break in your stomach. I still love those Morton tritips we used to get, and there's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:43:15 It was like, I would get, yeah, a little bit like sluggish or like, you know, it might actually activate a little bit of my heartburn a little bit, because whatever else they threw in there Like I don't I wasn't like too sure But yeah, but your box pretty consistently good, you know, feel good energy for it So Adam did you say you were doing some moving or something this weekend? Oh, yeah, no, we get getting ready for maximum. Oh
Starting point is 00:43:39 Trying to be like super proactive like way ahead of time So we're not scrambling for the last be super proactive way ahead of time, so we're not scrambling for the last couple months before he gets here. And the big thing that we needed to do was to clean out his room, which is turned into the shoe room. So yeah, wow. So he's just going to treat like painting now and like getting it all. Yeah, so we've got her brothers coming in in the next, so she has everything picked out,
Starting point is 00:44:04 like the theme of it and the colors. What's the thing? It's like bears. It's like a bear thing. Yeah. So it's like a, I was, I have totally been hands off. I've been, you tell me, she's showed me like she's like, do you like this better or this better? And I've had like a little bit of say, but to be honest, it's been kind of all her and her mom and her sister all into it.
Starting point is 00:44:24 So I think she's enjoying the shit out of it, but we're painting it, painting the room and redoing the closet set up and he's, everything's gonna be all new. And so I had to get everything cleared out in my shoes. My shoes were the biggest, was the biggest pain in the ass. It took you having a kid to have to move to. Yeah, man. Oh, dude, that was like, so what do you put all your shoes?
Starting point is 00:44:44 You got like the hundreds of boxes. Well, so I, the first, I moved to, yeah man. That was like, so what do you put all your shoes? You got like the hundreds of boxes of them. Well, so I, the first, I would have to go underneath. So when we moved in, anything that, and this is probably happened, I'm sure people can relate to this. When you move in, it's like you get all the, the main stuff that you use on a regular basis, or you sit on, or you're couches,
Starting point is 00:45:01 your tables, all that, you like that. And then it's like all these other boxes and shit gets like in a garage or an attic or wherever your storage is. So we have at this house, we have the underneath is like this big storage place. But it's only about, I don't know, I'd say, three and a half feet high. So I can crawl under there and thank God I have good mobility now
Starting point is 00:45:22 so I could sit in a squatted, deep squatted position and get under there. And so I have good mobility now so I could sit in a squatted deep squatted position and get under there and so I organized all of it. As of right now it was just, shit was just thrown all in there. So I spent like, which is also why I'm all, my throat's all flimmy because I took in all kinds of dust this weekend being underneath there. And I organized everything from like the Christmas stuff, camping stuff like you know all old stuff from Katrina's past my old stuff from my past the snowboard Yeah, and then shoes now have taken up all kinds of so what if you want to go and grab a pair of All I've now I've broken up in sections So I have my master bedroom my bed is also a shoe thing you've seen it before right you can put all she so I can fit about bedroom. My bed is also a shoe thing. You've seen it before, right? You can put all shoes. So I can fit about 10 pairs of shoes on around my bed. And then I have my master bedroom
Starting point is 00:46:10 closet, where I have another about 10 pairs of shoes. And then I have another spare room besides Maximus room, a closet that I've stacked probably a hundred in there. So the whole closet is nothing but shoes. And then the last bit of them all went down in the garage. So, and I took the ones that I rarely ever wear that I stored them away. It's like, okay, and eventually I want to go through them and sell them or get rid of them or what about that. But I said, okay, what I want. I want to spend one day and be like, so dad, did you get like, did you save up money for my college and stuff? You're like, no, but I did something better. Come downstairs.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Look at all these shoes. Pick one. So I spit, I spit all, I spit my whole, my whole Saturday pretty much cleaning that all up and getting it already. But it's good now. And I've turned downstairs with my, the rowers at. So I've got some, some shoes out there too. So there's some shoes stacked out there. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:47:07 I see that as well. Have you ever just tried to do the math to see how much money and shoes you have there? Oh, if I had to guess like in their current value, if you were to sell them all. Right. Right. Um, you figure there's a there's a few hundred. So there's probably there's somewhere between probably three and 500. I don't know. There's probably less than 500. There's definitely more than two words.
Starting point is 00:47:31 No, there's definitely more than 300 actually. It's probably closer to 500. There's probably about 500 pairs of shoes. Out of the, what's the cheapest and the most expensive that we can get? There you go. So the cheapest pair, there's probably a pair of $50 shoes in there somewhere, but the most common price range is probably about
Starting point is 00:47:47 150 for like my normal sneakers. Yeah. Probably like 50 60 Gs of shoes. I don't know. I didn't even done the math. Like the most expensive pair. I mean, I have a couple pairs that are worth a lot. Like the most expensive is 3,500. So the $3,500 pair and then you figure there's I do the math wrong. Well, you probably do an average of like $150, right? That's probably a good average considering if there's, it's probably higher. You got $75,000 worth of shoes. Really isn't that much?
Starting point is 00:48:15 Yeah, it is, bro. What? It is college impressive, bro. That's enough sense, I made that joke. Totally. Holy shit, bro. I never did the math really on the. Totally. Holy shit, bro. I never did the math really on the wall.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Open your door, man. How much did you spend on them? Do you think each of them about $5,200? Well, nothing is 50, but I mean, there's Justin asked to achieve it. There's probably a pair of chucks in there that I'm, I'm guessing. So you have, so it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:48:39 it's safe to say that you've spent 50 to 70 Gs on all that. Well, not necessarily because a lot of been gifts. A lot of people know that I collect sneakers, I'm in the shoes, so I mean, I've got Katrina's bought quite a few really nice pairs for me and I've had clients give me nice pairs. So out of those 500, how many would you say you bought? Oh, 90%.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Okay. So you've got like $50,000 that you spent on all of that. Is that hurt, bro? Little bit, would you say that? Maybe a little bit, would you say that? You know, maybe a little bit. Like, ah! I would have never done that though if shoes weren't where they're at now.
Starting point is 00:49:13 When we were kids, they weren't like this. But you know, they've turned in, there's a stock market for them. Bro, if you sell them and you make a profit, I'm going to be in my work. I would make a profit. Because I wear all mine and I'm not like that. I'm not trying to, I don't treat them like, I wear them, I wear them. So I wouldn't get nowhere near,
Starting point is 00:49:30 I would get half the price at best. Like those $3,500 ones, I've worn them a bunch of times, right in Vegas. So I would probably get $1,500 more. So, but I still, I mean, I could wear them as long as I did and then when I'm over it, I could probably sell them and like I will, I'll get rid of a bunch that I don't really wear anymore and make some money back maybe.
Starting point is 00:49:48 I don't know. Never thought of that. I can't believe it. They're giving him to your kid, bro, for his birthday. He doesn't know. They're under the house. He'll never know. He gets the long, long, long life. He's like, oh my god, this is worth a lot of money. Well, the scariest part about it, I should say, that I have to make a decision sooner than later is they, they oxidate. So the oxidize, oxidize.
Starting point is 00:50:10 So they, the rubber will start to fall apart. So you can't just keep sneakers forever. You got to put them in a vacuum seal. Yeah, let's say vacuum seal them maybe. Well, yeah, I guess you could vacuum seal them. That would be a real pain in the ass. I don't know my smash them. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:24 So they're in plastic sealed boxes, but even then those, I'm sure if I go back and look at some of my oldest bear. That's a lot of money and shoes. Did you insure them? No, they're not insured. You probably want to. That's a decent amount of money and shoes, man. Yeah, that's, that's, I think I'd probably
Starting point is 00:50:41 grab all the major, I keep the really expensive ones close to me. Okay. Yeah, so they get it. There's a alarm on them. the major I keep the really expensive ones close to me. Okay. Yeah The really close ones are close to my bed. So I grab those real cool. How fun It would have what a great prank that would be if we if Justin and I came over one day without you knowing and took Just your expensive ass shoes put him on came to work the fuck? Do you know what happened to him? I don't want to be anywhere near. If that happened. Yeah, have you destroyed some of my stuff? No, I would never be. But that would be a dirty prank if you did the same thing to my sneakers as I did my
Starting point is 00:51:14 buddies DVDs where you make some all of that. Yeah, that makes a match every pair. Oh, I gave. So no, I couldn't open a box of the same pair of beer in there. Like, you're Jordan and a freaking pair of beer. Are we replacing with some JC Penny shoes? Yeah, okay. Pay less shoe stores going out of business. 50% off for now, do you guys know this? We did not know that.
Starting point is 00:51:31 We weren't paying attention. Oh, I get you. That's kids, dude. Take your kids and get there. His kids grow out of fucking shoes. I bought my Santa pair shoes. Trust me. Bro, I bought them a pair of shoes.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Two months later, fucking don't fit in me. I bought them for a week sometimes. I bought them three pairs of jeans waste of money I told my kid I said from now on I'm gonna buy I'm gonna treat you close the way I buy fruit and he goes What do you mean I go I buy fruit the day I'm gonna eat it because it goes bad so you want a pair of clothes Well buy that day and that's it well a lot of kids having cool clothes is that's you know that's great But not for very long, you know a lot of people assume that I'm gonna like spoil him with sneakers and design, of course, I did a post with him.
Starting point is 00:52:06 You can't spoil him. You've already spent all your money on yourself. Yeah. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha She's getting so excited about getting the room ready and all the stuff and like shopping for things I'm like whoa whoa whoa whoa. I'm like you have a massive family. I have a big family We have a ton of people close to us that are trying to buy things for us. I'm like don't buy anything I put it on and she's already got the the what do you call it? Yes, with showers or for yeah, what's the baby list thing or whatever like that like a wedding You know what the fucking registry. Yeah, she's already registered already. And I'm like, just put everything that you could possibly want him on that. And then just let people buy it. I know what to buy you, bro.
Starting point is 00:52:50 And I am not. I'm not going to spoil. I'm really not going to spoil the shit at him because I he'll be spoiled by everybody else. Well, bro, do you just wait? Here's the thing. Like what meeting people like, Joe, to see now, I mean, being at where I'm if I would have, if I would have had my kid in my early 20s, I would have, I would have made this mistake. I would have allowed my insecurities of not having things, wanting things so bad that it would have bled into my son.
Starting point is 00:53:14 And it spoils them. Right, where I've come. No one's them. I've come full circle on the, having the childhood I had, I'm grateful for it. And I know that it forged me into the person that I am today. Therefore, I know grateful for it. And I know that it forged me into the person that I am today. Therefore, I know better than to just get things
Starting point is 00:53:28 for my son because I can afford to do it and I won't do that. And so, you know, Warren Buffett doesn't give his kids shit. Right, I'm more likely to be the asshole dad where my son's just like, fucking, my dad has all his money, won't give me shit like that. I plan to be more like to that and teach him how to do.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Yeah, so earn it, earn it. Yeah, so earn it. Otherwise, you're giving it to him. You're gonna raise a rich, spoiled, shitty ass, entitled kid. And that's what I see. Almost everybody, and the ones that turned out well, like I think, you know, Mike Matthews is an example, so it turned out well. I had an ex that came from a very wealthy family.
Starting point is 00:53:59 She turned out well. And all the ones that I know that turned out really well, their parents put in still values like this early on and just didn't give them everything they wanted. They didn't have some badass whip in high school. They weren't wearing all this expensive ass clothes. So you just wait till you're to Christmas, okay? Having Christmas with kids, you go home and your car's filled with shit
Starting point is 00:54:20 and you actually go get rid of toys to bring the new toys in. It's insane, dude. And this is your, in this baby, is the new baby in both your family. You're just, you're actually go get rid of toys to get bring the new toys. It's insane, dude And this is your this in this baby is the new baby in both your family You just you're gonna go Christmas. You're gonna go home. That's why I don't buy anything I don't buy anything. I'll get the toy. Throw away more stuff than anything else I'm like we don't need a buying it. It's great. It's let him run around naked put newspaper on the floor You're set. I want to be rocks and sticks I'm serious. I want to be like that
Starting point is 00:54:43 This quas brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic super foods to help give your health a performance the added edge. Try Organify totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com. And use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. Ah! First question is from Clydesburg. What are the pros and cons of training with a weighted vest?
Starting point is 00:55:17 Oh, the good old weighted vest. You know, it's a good question though. Yeah, definitely because I constantly see people posting pictures with them on and talking about using them in their training. I like using them more for body weight exercise, not for running. Thank you. I think if you're going to do weighted movements, like pull-ups, dips, push-ups, body rows, that kind of stuff, A weighted vest is very convenient.
Starting point is 00:55:45 It's, it sticks to your body. I mean, you could always hang a weight off of one of those weight belts or whatever, but that, that weight swings and it makes it less, just less convenient. So, weighted vest for that are pretty awesome. As far as doing a bunch of activities and exercises in a weighted vest, like running or box jumps or sprints.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Not a good idea. No, not unless you're training specifically for something in which you're going to be carrying lots of weight and doing those activities like military. Right. Like if you're a, if you're going to be training to run with a pack on, then it makes sense. Yeah. But then even then they have like, ruck packs or things like that where you can add weight to it and it's more like it translates better. Yeah. No, if you're an average person, you're like, oh, I want to or things like that where you can add weight to it, and it's more like, it translates better.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Yeah, no, if you're the average person, you're like, oh, I want to run, but I want to add a weight vest on to make it harder. Unless, if your form is not perfect, if you don't have perfect biomechanics, nobody has perfect form. Well, exactly. You are going to set yourself up for some problems.
Starting point is 00:56:39 And you haven't acclimated to that added amount of load and stress to the joints. So really, we're just like to immediately throw that kind of excess weight to like a running situation on like mechanics that are already somewhat, I'm going to guarantee there's somewhat flawed. It's really going to expose a lot of those weak links. Yeah, I know more people who've hurt ankles and knees from weighted vest than I wish I did. There's just tons because people will put them on,
Starting point is 00:57:06 they'll do the box jumps and stuff. And you need to have good understanding of mechanics. Natural. So here's the thing, when we say good mechanics, I'm not referring to you knowing how to run properly. I'm talking about how do you run when you're not thinking about it? That's what good mechanics are because that becomes your default.
Starting point is 00:57:24 And when you add weight to your body and fatigue things start to break down and it's just a recipe for disaster. There's a risk versus benefit analysis you have to make. And again, unless you're training for an event where you actually have to carry weight, so you have to actually get good. Like if you're a hiker, so I've done this with clients where I've had clients who do hardcore hiking, where they'll go way out in the wilderness and they'll carry 40, 50 pound, you know, backpacks on their back, and they wanna prepare for that.
Starting point is 00:57:50 And part of their preparation was hiking with a weighted vest on. And then what I would do is I'd progress them to actually hiking with their pack on because you'd wanna be as close to what you're gonna do. To me, there's no sense in even doing a vest, I would just load my bag up. If you're a hiker and you're getting ready to do
Starting point is 00:58:06 and your backpack is normally 50 pounds worth of gear in the back, well, the best thing you can do is actually load your backpack up with all the real gear you'd be carrying and then go out on these hikes that you would do. I mean, nothing's gonna train you for that better than that. If it's not specific, like if you do not have something that you would have to run with something and you're not
Starting point is 00:58:27 Training for that for the average person who's just trying to get stronger faster bigger Not a good idea. No, there's no there's not enough carryover or not enough benefit for the potential risk of Running with something and here comes the question where people will be well, if I got better with running with a weighted vest on, wouldn't that make me that much better running without a weighted vest? And the answer to that is also no. And here's why, okay? And I'll use a different analogy or a different example. Years ago, I trained a boxer.
Starting point is 00:58:56 And for a short while, he gave me boxing lessons that we did a trade. So I would do personal training. And he would teach me, you know, combinations and I'd hit the myths and stuff like that. And I asked. So I would do personal training and he would teach me, you know, combinations and I'd hit the mitts and stuff like that. And I asked him, I said, hey, is it a good idea? Should I shadow box and hold one pound or two pound dumbbells on my hands?
Starting point is 00:59:13 Cause I thought, oh, you know, added resistance will make me better. And he goes, fuck no. He goes, you're just gonna be throwing off your timing. He says, because you get used to punching with a particular speed and cadence with weight. When you take them off, your timing's gonna be all off.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Same is true for running with the weight advanced. If you run with the weight advanced, and you get good at running with the weight advanced, you take it off, and you might feel lighter, but your cadence and your rhythm and your technique has now been honed to running with this weight advanced on, and not to running with a lighter body weight, and it actually throws things off.
Starting point is 00:59:45 So it doesn't improve that as well. Now here's where I'll say the good stuff comes from a weighted vest. If you like doing body weight exercises, and you wanna get the muscle building effects of weights, cause weights build muscle really well because of the heavy resistance, the one knock I have against body weight exercises,
Starting point is 01:00:00 a lot of times it's difficult to get adequate resistance to really build lots of muscle. It gets real creative. Right. Put on a weighted vest. Get on some rings, get on some dip bars, do pull ups, push ups. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Now you're getting those closed chain body weight movements, but you're getting the muscle building effects of the high resistance. Well, now, too, they have products out that are really like form fitted. Like they've done a really good job of being able to, you know, distribute the weight around your body, so it fit like anat you know, distribute the weight around your body.
Starting point is 01:00:25 So it fit like anatomically, it kind of makes more sense. So well, they also make them too, or you can scale them, right? So some of them are like 20 pounds, they do it 40 pounds and 60 pounds, which that's cool too. Start off with 20 pounds and then doing that for a few weeks, progress yourself up to 40 and keep working up with that. I think it'd be great. No, I used to have a weighted vest that went up to 50 pounds
Starting point is 01:00:45 and you could actually had pockets where you could put, like you could put like weighted. But it was still floppy. Like they have one now. That was the thing. Yeah, like especially when you do pushups, it'd be like, pfft, like, like, flop down. It touches the floor before you get lame, but.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Exactly. Yeah, so now I think it's like high fleet or whatever that I've probably pronounced in it wrong, but they have a great form fitted vest. But I loved doing pullups and dips and body rows with the weighted vest. It would be a great thing to put into maps anywhere. I mean, I think it would come up.
Starting point is 01:01:13 I have to fuck yeah. Yeah, no, that would be actually a good one. I would intensify it, very cool. And also for someone working out at home, if you're working at a home and you're doing, especially because here's the big challenge with body weight exercises or the leg exercises. How do I get adequate resistance to build muscle my legs?
Starting point is 01:01:28 You have to start to do like the single, single limb exercises, pistol squats and stuff like that. But if you're not at that level yet, but you still wanna add resistance, weight invest is a great thing to use at home. You just put it on, now you've got 50 more pounds, do some walking lunges, and you'll get more of that muscle building benefit.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Next question is from Cam the Lamb. What are your opinions on power building? Do you think it's beneficial to mix power lifting with body building? You know, I didn't know this was a thing until someone asked me this in my DMs other day and I'm like power building. I had to like look it up. Dude, it's old, bro. Power building is an old word that they were throwing around in the 80s and 90s with bodybuilders who like to lift heavy, heavy weight with loose form. And it became like a thing for a second and then it went away and I think they're just bringing it back.
Starting point is 01:02:16 And it's basically heavy-ass bodybuilding, right? It's like bodybuilding but with like, like what's his name? Shit, what's it? He won the Arnold Classic a while ago. Dude from Texas, crazy looking quads. You know what I'm talking about if I say his name. Flex? No, not flex.
Starting point is 01:02:32 He stopped competing, not that long ago, but he was big for a second there. Oh, Branch? Branch Warren. So Branch Warren, you know, kind of trains like that. Form is a little looser, super heavy. Johnny Jackson trained that way for a while. So are they blending it in one workout
Starting point is 01:02:50 to where it's like both? That's what they're doing. They're not doing, they're not going, they're not phasing, you know what I'm saying? They're not going like, this is, well, so are they doing like dead lifts in like, you know, power lifting type lifts within the bodybuilding or what is that?
Starting point is 01:03:06 But really what they're doing is, the ones I've seen, okay, is they're just taking body building movements and just fucking training heavy. So they're doing curls and they're curling like hundred pound dumbbells in the form of loose or they're doing a little bit of cheat involved in the... Yes, and they're just saying power building
Starting point is 01:03:24 because the form is in his clean, the reps tend to be a little short and they cheat involved in this. Yes, and they're just saying power building because the form is in its clean, the reps tend to be a little short and they're using tons of them. I'm assuming that person who's asking this question probably doesn't own any of our programs because we have like a, every program has got like a power lifting type of protocol in one of the phases.
Starting point is 01:03:43 And then there's always a phase that's kind of like a body building type of protocol in one of the phases. And then there's always a phase that's a bodybuilding type of protocol. All that is is your rep range, the exercises that we're choosing and we're talking about, and that's what really differentiates these two things, which is why the whole power building thing, I was like, what is that? Now that's the key here. Something you want to keep in mind. First of all, training heavy in the low rep range like a power lifter has got great carry over to body building or muscle building. It gives your muscles a quality of look. It does build more muscles, especially if you
Starting point is 01:04:14 never train in those rep ranges. So there's lots of value, but there's also more risks. Training heavy, your joints are going to hurt more, the risk of tearing a muscle is much higher. And here's the other thing. not all exercises lend themselves well to this kind of training. If you're gonna train the low rep ranges, stick to the compound barbell and dumbbell type movements. Don't do this powerlifting type phase of training and do a bunch of cable and isolation exercises, which is what I see a lot of these bodybuilders doing. They're like, oh, I'm power building and they're doing trisip kickbacks, dumbbell curls.
Starting point is 01:04:49 They're doing side laterals and rather than doing good form, they're swinging the way, but they're calling it power building because they're 80 pound dumbbells. I don't think that's a great way to apply heavy training. I also think you're better off phasing so doing like we design our programs. you know, do three to four weeks of Powerlifting type training, then go into your bodybuilding and also pick the right exercises. It's not a good idea to do all the exercises with low reps They just don't work great like like laterals. You know what?
Starting point is 01:05:17 You know, it ends up happening with laterals when you do hella heavy ass weight. You're doing traps and other shit. Yeah, you're doing like a Like a snatch grip clean almost, with kind of the weight you're, which is fine if you want to work your upper back, but you're negating, like rear laterals, that's another rear flies, for rear doubts or curls. I've seen some of these videos. And then look at these bodybuilders who trained this way.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Name one of them that hasn't had major injuries. You can't. There's a reason why Dexter Jackson is still competing. And, you know, God bless him. Ronnie Coleman has just got a lot of problems during eights, tour lots of muscles also. That's the style of training. If you're not smart about it, your risk of injury goes, you know, through the roof. Now, on the flip side, do power lifters get a benefit from training in the hypertrophy bodybuilding range. Absolutely. Of course. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:06:06 It gives their joints a break, gives them a little bit more hypertrophy to work with, with their muscles. And then they can focus on some of the smaller muscle groups that support some of those heavier lifts. But if you're going to, in my opinion, if you're going to combine power lifting or heavy low rep training with bodybuilding, my opinion is don't just throw them all together at once. Stick to one for a phase, it's the same mindset.
Starting point is 01:06:34 I know what I'm training for, perfecting my form for these lifts. These are the lifts that are really good for this type of phase of training. Then move to bodybuilding. These are the lifts that work great with for that. Here's the mindset. When you mix them together, what ends up happening
Starting point is 01:06:46 is you end up amplifying the negatives of both and minimizing the benefits of both. And so just not as good, in my opinion. Next question is from Stephen Bush. Which diet trend do you think has had the most adverse effect on our society? Ooh, that's a cool question. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Yeah, it likes to. This is going to trigger some people cool question. Yeah, yeah, like this one. This is going to trigger some people from it. Yeah, you know, I was trying to think about this question and think about like we've covered pretty much every diet that's out there for the most part. I just remember the misinformation that was biggest for me growing up was the low fat. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:20 And like how everybody like was condemning fat in their diet and where were we going instead? Processed carbs and cereals and everything else was like fair game. And so... Well, I'm gonna piss a bunch of people off and say vegetarian. I think that there's more people that have tried
Starting point is 01:07:40 the vegetarian diet thinking that it's a healthier, better way to live and end up missing a ton of things that their body needs. They're pushing it right now too real hard. Right. And that's not to say, because all the diets I could talk about, that it's not to say that it can't be done and it can't be extremely healthy. And that there's somebody who's listening right now that's like shaking their head, no
Starting point is 01:08:03 way. I switched to vegan and I had all kinds of great responses. Okay, so I'm not saying that saying at it If we're talking about in general, which one do I think it's probably turn people the wrong direction? I think that it is probably got a bunch of people that have gone this direction that so their whole idea is okay Now I'm just avoiding meat all together and so I'm following this diet instead of putting the time into thinking like, am I hitting all my macro and micronutrient targets that I need for longevity? And I think a lot of people miss that. Well, especially looking at the backlash people get when they leave that type of diet from
Starting point is 01:08:43 that community and it's like they had to for their health. Like why are you condemning somebody for like going to the doctor and be like, you have to have like, you know, meat based protein, like, you know, or nutrients, or some, you know, nutrients you're deficient in. Yeah, it's the only widespread diet type
Starting point is 01:09:03 that is fueled by ethical and moral reasons. There's no other diet that is surrounded by these ethical reasons. People don't go, which makes it dangerous. Which makes it dangerous, right? Because keto, paleo, low fat, high protein, bodybuilderer diets where there isn't an ethical fuel behind it. When people go vegan, often times, or at least the ones that go vegan for a long time, the studies will show this, because people who go vegan for health typically go back to eating meat.
Starting point is 01:09:37 People who go vegan for ethical reasons are very dogged and determined in staying that way, because they're not eating vegan because they think it's healthier, they're going vegan because they don't want animals to be killed. And so that really drives them hard and many of them consider killing animals to be analogous to killing a human. And so it's that moral drive that's pushing them, which causes oftentimes many of them to ignore some of the negatives that come from a vegan diet that is not well planned. Because in order to eat vegan and be healthy, you have to know what the hell you're doing.
Starting point is 01:10:15 You have to be well planned. Period and of story. You will not get away with just not eating meat because you have to eat a wide variety of vegetables, fruits, nuts, and seeds. You have to know what to combine with what. You have to know what to supplement with because there's certain nutrients that are very difficult to get from non-animal sources.
Starting point is 01:10:36 So you're going to have to supplement with sometimes certain B vitamins, certain minerals, iron for some people, especially for some women. You're going to have to supplement oftentimes with creatine, studies consistently show that when vegans take creatine, their IQ goes up, whereas the average person takes creatine that doesn't necessarily happen. Now why? Well, creatine is, you only get from animal sources,
Starting point is 01:11:00 creatine fuels, or at least it's turned into certain types of, you know, foundational fuel for the cells. So if your IQ goes up because you're not eating creatine, it's not because creatine's inutropic, necessarily, it's because you're lacking something that you need. So be very smart and be very planned. Unfortunately, most vegans are not that way. They go into it and they're like, oh my god, I feel terrible about the way animals are
Starting point is 01:11:24 treated. I don't want animals to die. So I'm going to do this for moral reasons. And they go into it not knowing what's going on. And then what ends up happening is after a year or two, they're suffering from, you know, weak brittle nails, hair starts to kind of fall out or thin, energy levels decline, cognition starts to decline, gut issues start to happen. People develop things like SIBO as a result. And really the ones that are disagreeing with you right now that have these, oh man, I was the opposite, inflammation went down, I didn't feel below it at all of the time, I felt my energy levels were great.
Starting point is 01:11:58 A lot of those people were just grossly lacking the vegetables, all the leafy greens and all the benefits of eating all these foods that I think are great There's a lot of great things about the vegan diet I think in terms of making sure you're getting enough vegetables and things like that into your diet And normally the positive benefits that someone feels is getting rid of all the process garbage shit They were eating before now. They're also in there eating all these whole whole type foods and nuts and seeds and leafy greens and like, man, those things are good, they should be in your diet anyways. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:29 And instead of being so religious about it, you know, have some fish in there once a while or have some chicken in there once a while. Or just learn what you need to supplement with in order to make your vegan lifestyle, because at the end of the day, here's the bottom line, as empathetic as you may be towards animals, which I completely empathize with. I think if that's your driving force, that's great. You're an empathetic, caring person. But the number one animal you need to be empathetic towards is yourself.
Starting point is 01:12:55 So if you're a vegan and you're starting to feel these symptoms and you're like, what the fuck's going on? Go get some testing, get your nutrients, your vitamins tested, and see what you need to supplement with, or what you need to do with your diet in order to take care of the most important animal, which is yourself. And that's why I chose this diet. I chose that because of all the diets that are out there, and I've done all of them personally,
Starting point is 01:13:20 and I've had plenty of clients that done all of them. It's the most challenging one for people to follow and get everything that their body needs. You follow a paleo diet, you follow it pretty well. It's not really hard to get what your body needs. You follow something like IIFYM, pretty easy to get what your body needs. For the most part, most of these diets that are out there, it's a lot, and even the carnivore diet, which I think I'm not a fan of restricting everything just me. You're less likely to have a nutrient deficiency.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Right, you're less likely to have a nutrient deficiency than you are for your vegan. And that's just because it's fucking black and white. You just eat meat. You know what I mean? They don't have to combine meats or two completely, like opposing forces, like battle those ideas. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:02 But let's be honest, I mean, there's so many more nutrients found in meat than anything else. Well, so I'll say this, because I agree with you some parts of this, but I'm going to give you a diet that I think is done the most damage to our society by far. And I don't, it's not necessarily a diet that people choose to go on, like, oh, I'm going to start paleo, I'm going to start But it is a diet that we've been following now for a few decades and that's the the modern Western diet The modern Western diet is for all intents and purposes fucking terrible
Starting point is 01:14:39 In many many many aspects, you know, I'll give you an example, okay? if you go back 30 years and you look at the obesity and diabetes and chronic illness rate in Mexico, it was far lower than it was today. Now granted, lots of Mexicans now have much more access to food today than they did back then. But their diet drastically changed. If you go, if you 30 years ago, you didn't have soda at every single meal, and Mexico now, you do have soda at every single meal. Their candy consumption has gone through the roof. Their consumption of processed foods has gone through the roof.
Starting point is 01:15:13 To the point now where Mexico now is the most obese country in the world, it's actually surpassed America. Of course, we know about America's problems. We've got these, the modern Western diet, the reason why it's so terrible is because what they focused so heavily on was, can we produce? Can we produce enough high energy food to feed people?
Starting point is 01:15:35 So let's solve that problem. So they did, they took a few crops that they knew that they could mass produce, wheat, soy, corn, you know, those types of crops, planted the fuck out of them. And then they said, can we produce enough food that has a long shelf life? And then of course, it's a market-based economy,
Starting point is 01:15:51 so people are like, I'm gonna buy what I like, so it tastes good, so they're making food that tastes good. And so the modern Western diet is a diet that is comprised of highly palatable, energy, dense, nutrient lacking foods. And so we have this fucking epidemic of overcalories under nutrients, obese, sick people. That's not fair, you pick that one.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Oh, that's not fair. That's not fair, because studies have already shown that you'll have better health following any diet compared to the food pyramid or the Western. Yeah. So that is exactly the food pyramid. Yeah, that's the fair case. Carbs were like, oh fair game.
Starting point is 01:16:29 There was a majority of whatever is eating. And let's be honest, none of those people are really paying attention. They're just doing, they're just doing well. So we're all right. Well, and I think a big problem is the focusing on the what and the information, rather than focusing on the behaviors that drive the what you know
Starting point is 01:16:45 because we've been told now for a while eat less calories these foods are good these foods are bad rather than teaching people how to change their behaviors how to how to have a relationship to food what does it mean what does hunger really feel like why am I eating this way i think that's the approach that we need to have any government sponsored diet. The funny part is I feel like I feel like I could I can bash every diet and I could praise every diet for something. Right. For something. So and I think the the part that is the work, but what's caused the most problems in society
Starting point is 01:17:15 right? It's got to be the Western. Well, you have to be at that. Yeah. Right. But I don't really play that to diet. That's like, that's not something people go on. People don't know.
Starting point is 01:17:23 I was like, you know what? We're going to, it's a new year, new me. We're gonna follow the Western diet. Dude, you would be surprised. You know, in China and in Japan, they purposely were trying to feed their kids Western foods because they thought that would make their kids tall, like Americans and make them.
Starting point is 01:17:39 So McDonald's would open up in those countries and they fuck, and parents would line up to feed their kids France fries and shit like that. Yeah, that's a true story. Because I thought that's what, I mean, the reason why they got taller was because they were lacking nutrients.
Starting point is 01:17:51 And so that actually did happen. But they said, oh, you gotta eat like the Americans. They're so tall. For all my vegan people that I probably pissed off now and hate me, I actually think that if you followed a vegan type of diet, but you weren't so dogmatic about it, that you allowed to intermittently have fish, steak, and chicken in it would probably be a pretty damn good fucking diet.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Sure. Because I think plan based. Oh, yeah. I really think this would never happen. I just think for the most part, we neglect the seeds, the nuts, and the leafy greens as a whole as a society. I think that we don't eat enough fruits and vegetables, seeds, and nuts, and some of these great nutrient-dense type foods.
Starting point is 01:18:31 And I think what ends up happening is you go so extreme that way, you feel all the benefits of, wow, what happens when you eat all those foods, but then you neglect to take in what all the benefits you get for some of the meat. So it's like, why don't you follow like a vegan-ish type of diet where you're mostly doing that? But then, hey, recognize when you probably haven't had enough protein in your day and say, hey, I'm going to have six ounces of some salmon or...
Starting point is 01:18:54 I think what we're going to find in the future is I think we're going to find that the best diet is more seasonal. I think just following the way that humans evolve where there were times when we had, all we had was meat and fat and proteins. And then there were times when we came across plants and that's all we ate and then we had lots of fish. And then there were times we had no food. So we fasted for long periods of time.
Starting point is 01:19:15 I bet you that's what we're gonna end up with in the future is okay. But I tell you what, for sure, it's not gonna be a diet that's high in processed foods. That's for sure. Next question is from Gimmi Cashews. What is each person's anyagram type? Did any of you do this yet?
Starting point is 01:19:31 I never, I did this a long time ago. I'm gonna forgot. I'm hoping you guys remembered. Yeah, it's a neagram. A neagram, yeah. So you have the different types of personalities that it was just highlighting through that. Yeah, this question has came up multiple times.
Starting point is 01:19:44 I've wanted to answer it, but I haven't had the time to sit down and actually do this. You gotta take a long test to determine what's going on. Yeah, I haven't, I haven't, who picked this one. Yeah, so there's peacemaking, there's perfecting, there's cooperating, there's achieving, there's designing, thinking, troubleshooting, exploring, and asserting.
Starting point is 01:20:01 So that was like the nine points of this, like diagram. And then people are like a combination of them or whatever, because you answer questions. And yeah, I don't know. What do you guys feel about tests like this that try to break down what type of person you are? You know what I mean? Yeah, that's what I was kind of getting at too.
Starting point is 01:20:17 It's like, what does it matter? Because you can shift from one personality to another. I think pretty fluidly. Like depending on the circumstance and desired outcome, do I need to be more assertive in this moment? Do I need to be more self-critical in this and step back? Well, did you guys fall into a profession that aligned with probably the one you took when you,
Starting point is 01:20:40 because I took one in high school, like a personality test that was supposed to tell you what jobs you best fit in. Did you guys take one of those when you're, because I took one in high school like a personality test that was supposed to like tell you what jobs you best fit in. Did you guys take one of those in your kid? It reminds me of like what I'm alluding to is it reminds me of stuff like that, right? And I, I mean, mine I did. I was, it was definitely along the lines of sales and I forget what I, but it was jobs that I ended up doing. People, stuff with people, stuff with communicating, talking, sales, like those were all the areas that they said that I would excel in.
Starting point is 01:21:12 And that was as a kid when I took that test in high school. And so I think it kind of helps maybe somebody who's not maybe sure of who. You know why I don't like these tests? Because first of all, people change quite a bit. But also I feel like if you're a kid or you're an adult even, first of all, everybody likes to hear about themselves. That's why these tests are so popular.
Starting point is 01:21:32 If I wanted to get a shit ton of clicks, if I did a Facebook ad and I want a lot of people to click on it, I'd be like, hey, find out what your favorite color tells you about your fitness level or some shit like that or what kind of person are you, a squatter or deadlift or take it this quiz. People love to hear about them, so. Or even some added types. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:49 I kind of attribute it to things like that where you're trying to simplify a lot of these characteristics and really attach yourself to them, but in reality, you probably have a lot of all of it. Yeah. And it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, in my opinion. I think it's no different than a placebo when you go and you do a test and they say, Hey, we're going to give you this drug and it's not a drug. It's a sugar pill.
Starting point is 01:22:12 Yeah. But it's going to make you feel a particular way and a large percentage of people feel that way. So let's say you're a kid and you get this test and the test says you would be a great, you know, artist or something like that. And the kids like, yeah, I think so. That sounds awesome. Yeah. And they start to, yeah, I think so, that sounds awesome. And they start to push themselves in that direction
Starting point is 01:22:27 and they try to become what they're told that they're most likely to be. Or maybe they move away from, oh yeah, this says I'm an artist and I knew I didn't like math. Yeah, fuck math, I'm not gonna even try anymore, whatever. That's one of the problems I have with tests like this. I feel like people, they read it and they think, okay, this is what I'm gonna be like.
Starting point is 01:22:44 I think it's good though, like in terms of if somebody's interpreting this for you because it's like, it's feedback from somebody else perceiving who you are. So then you kind of, you get a different perspective in terms of what you're internalizing. Like this is who I am. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:23:00 It's how you perceive me. I don't know why we, I wish I would have known this was a question. We should have taken this test. It's only 35 questions. Yeah, we should take the test right now and just see. I think that's the the reason why people are asking. They're just curious.
Starting point is 01:23:11 I don't think it's what happened. Yeah, I don't think people are asking. You want to do the test? We'll do it. Let's put on pause a little edit magic. Yeah. Yeah. So we took the test.
Starting point is 01:23:21 I think we all got our results. Yeah. Oh, this is a good site though. You think there's a good site? What do you mean we did it? I don't know. It says it's 1.5 million people have done it. Some of the biggest brands like Nike, Disney, Amazon have all done it. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:23:33 It seems credible. No, no, this site though, the specific site. So I just said, oh, really? Yeah, yeah. It says, if you read, that's what that's what the site said. So it breaks it down in your top three. It says you may identify with more one more than one the other, but it's organized in your top three right of what you are So my I want to hear what you guys are what you're what you're three my top is the challenger type eight
Starting point is 01:23:57 So that's mine also. Yeah, and then the helper was type two was right after that and then the enthusiast Okay, so I'm challenger, helper, the reformer. I'm helper, enthusiast and reformer. Oh, wow. Yeah. So, what's the, what's the, did you guys get seven? Or no? No.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Yeah, I got that. Yeah, but okay, did you guys get helper? No, you didn't. I got helper. I got helper. Oh, you did? So we all got helper. We all got a reformer. I didn't get reformer. I'm a reformer So we all have something in cup so Justin and I both are challengers for a lot. Yeah, so read the challenger
Starting point is 01:24:34 Because I know there's challenger okay, so how to get along with me stand up for yourself and me be confident strong and direct Don't gossip about me or betray my trust be vulnerable vulnerable and share your feelings. See and acknowledge my tender, vulnerable side. Give me space to be alone. Acknowledge the contributions I make, but don't flatter me. I often speak in a assertive way. Don't automatically assume it's a personal attack. When I scream, this is fucking spot on for me for sure. When I scream, cursants, Tom, or Owl,
Starting point is 01:25:01 try to remember that's just the way I am. What I like about being an eight. Old school me. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I eight, overwhelming people with my business, scaring them away when I don't intend to, being restless and impatient with others, incompetence, sticking my neck out for people and receiving no appreciation for it, never forgetting injuries or injustices, putting too much pressure on myself, getting high blood pressure when people don't obey the rules or the things they get right. That's interesting. Yeah, because I pulled up another site that talks about the challenger and it says there's
Starting point is 01:25:48 set there this personality type or essentially. I just read. Yeah, did you know a different site? Well, I just read all the things that were about a challenger. Yeah, so this other site kind of just talks just about like their instincts and their physical appetites and all that stuff. Interesting. I wonder how accurate this thing is.
Starting point is 01:26:05 Yeah, I don't know. It's interesting. Did that feel like it was stuck? It was spot on. I felt like a lot of it, but spot on for me. That was my number one, right? So what you're, yeah, I think I was more of a blend of, I mean, that's definitely part of it than the helper,
Starting point is 01:26:20 I think, you know, that's sort of the double side of the coin for me, for sure. So this is like almost the, you know, more of the nurturing side. Yeah, it says, helpers a warm, concerned nurturing and sensitive to other people's needs. Interesting. It was, you had one that neither one of us had. So the enthusiast I had so to just had the reformer you and I both had. Okay.
Starting point is 01:26:41 So what's the enthusiast? Why don't you read that one? So the enthusiast is our energetic, lively and optimistic. They want to contribute to the world. So, you know, basically that right there. Give me companionship, affection, freedom, engage with me in stimulating conversation and laughter, appreciate my grand visions
Starting point is 01:27:00 and listen to my stories. Yeah, what I like about being a seven, being optimistic, being spontaneous, free-spirited, outspoken and outrageous, being generous, where it's hard, not having enough time to do all the things I want, not completing things that I start, not being able to profit for the benefits
Starting point is 01:27:15 that come from specializing, having a tendency to be ungrounded, getting lost in plans or fantasies. Interesting. Now, is there eight or nine of these? I think there's eight of them. Eight of them? I think so.
Starting point is 01:27:28 We all share some pretty similar traits. All of them. It's kind of interesting that there's not one thing that one of us has that doesn't share that in common with the other one. Yeah. But none of us are all, well, we're not all exactly the same though.
Starting point is 01:27:41 We're kind of split. Weird. Yeah. It's weird, man. It. Weird. Yeah. Big sense. Yeah. See, like I said, you like to hear about yourself. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:49 I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I wanted to see one of these. I wanted to do one of these sets. I want to do it. It's like a horoscope, right? Every time you read your sign, it's good stuff.
Starting point is 01:27:57 They'll never say shit like, oh, you're an asshole. Yeah. You're a piece of shit. You're lazy. Like, I would love to make one. You're total wasp bag. Yeah. People be like, oh, I'm a seven, then they read it and it's like,
Starting point is 01:28:05 yeah, you're a lazy ass. Yeah. This is not true. It's all gonna be true. You're a nihilist. When you like that kind of stuff. Oh, man. What about you were all in the horoscopes there
Starting point is 01:28:13 for a second right now, Adam? Well, I remember I dated this girl when I was like 23 or 4, never even like read a horoscope up to that point and she was like hardcore into it. And she introduced me to this website that would allow you to put your horoscope in and you're the person you were dating or whatever. And then it would tell you all the positive things
Starting point is 01:28:36 and then all the negative things about that pair. And boy, I tell you what, I went back and I like, you know, I knew all my girlfriends in the past like they were probably doing all that. Yes, I tell you what, I went back and I like, you know, I knew all my girlfriends in the past, like they were, you started doing all that? Yes, I started putting them all in and shit you not, like the things that were good about the relationship were like spot on, the shit that was not good
Starting point is 01:28:53 in our relationship was like in the right, so I thought that was really fast. Yeah, I don't believe in it, but I will say this, if you read the description of Aquarius, which is what I am, it's so fucking accurate. It's really, it's fucking hilarious. Like when I read that shit, I'm like, whoa, it's weird. To me, that's the part that I find fascinating.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Everybody really agree. And they're different. If you read Aquarius' and you read Scorpios, very, very different when you read them. And so, and I identify 100% with what I read. So I don't know. I think there's a little bit truth to what you say, which is, you know, when you write it in a positive light,
Starting point is 01:29:29 you know, you identify all of a sudden, the things that stick out to you, like, oh yeah, I'm like that. Yeah, yeah, I'm confident. I'm strong. Yeah, you know, say like, that's me. Yeah. So I think they do a good job of,
Starting point is 01:29:40 I'll put up a shit. Yeah, right. Writing it away that like everybody kind of wants wants to already naturally identify with it. And then if it hits some things right on the head, it's not. People change depending on circumstances like totally. I know some people who if the situation calls for them to become bold and lead, they do. Right. I know people who if the situation calls for them to not be, they won't be. And, you know, I have a, my sister was the shyest, most introverted kid growing up. And then, you know, she had a very challenging time when she was in fourth grade. And she just decided, I'm going to be a different person.
Starting point is 01:30:20 And from then on, it became this very outgoing extrovert. It was like this crazy switch. You could totally reinvent yourself too. You totally can. And I think it depends on what drives it. So that's what I find exciting to be quite honest. Totally. So with that, look, go to minepumpfree.com
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