Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1005: Lisa Lampanelli- From Grammy Nominated Comedian to Life Coach

Episode Date: April 8, 2019

In this entertaining episode, Sal, Adam and Justin talk with retired comedian Lisa Lampanelli. Lisa has had a 30+ year career and was known for her edgy, insult comedy. She has roasted well known celebrities including Chevy Chase, Pamela Anderson, William Shatner and even Donald Trump. Her comedy album "Back to the Drawing Board" was nominated for Best Comedy Album at the 58th Annual Grammy Awards. She has appeared in numerous movies, been a contestant on The Celebrity Apprentice and appeared on the Tonight Show. She announced her retirement from comedy in 2018 on the Howard Stern Show.  Lisa is now a life coach, storyteller and workshop leader. You can learn more about Lisa at lisalampanelli.com. The ‘San Jose Nightmare’ show explained. (3:54) Why you should get out of things before you ‘hate’ them. (7:38) What does she think of the current political climate? (9:40) The ‘dark side’ of comedy. (10:34) What was the impetus that got her to lose all the weight? Why you have to feel it to heal it. (12:52) Her transformation into life coaching. (15:19) Does she find her skills as a comedian come in handy now? (18:12) Why your ideal client shows up as a version of your younger self. The challenges she has faced as a coach so far. (19:12) Her ‘no filter’ mentality. (22:25) The evolution of her comedy style. Why you can’t be all things for all people. (26:42) What was the peak of her stand up career? (28:35) What is the weirdest encounter she has had with a celebrity? (29:29) Does she have a spiritual practice? (33:41) Did she have to ‘get ready’ before a show? The favorite show she ever did? (35:38) How family is the priority. (38:06) What makes her nervous or scared? (39:40) Don’t try to be someone you’re not. (42:00) How Donald Trump saved her life. (44:46) Why nothing happens TO us, it happens FOR us. (46:50) How watching stand up is like doing homework. (48:40) That one-time Mind Pump stood up a guest. (50:45) Why all jokes need a punchline + the art of ‘giving’ laughs instead of ‘receiving’ them. (52:50) Has she coached any young comics? (55:15) Start saying YES to things that make you happy! (56:40) Featured Guest/People Mentioned Lisa Lampanelli (@lisalampanelli)  Instagram Website Derek Hough (@derekhough)  Instagram Tony Robbins (@tonyrobbins)  Instagram Amy Schumer (@amyschumer)  Instagram Jeff Ross (@therealjeffreyross)  Instagram Brad Williams (@bradwilliamscomic)  Instagram Kathy Griffin (@kathygriffin)  Instagram Sebastian Maniscalco (@sebastiancomedy)  Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned April Promotion: MAPS Split ½ off!! Code “SPLIT50” at checkout Comedian Lisa Lampanelli Has Meltdown After Fan Hands Her $100 To Shut Up | TMZ LISA LAMPANELLI TELLS HOWARD SHE’S RETIRING FROM COMEDY TO BECOME A LIFE COACH Roast of Pamela Anderson - Comedy Central Lisa Lampanelli [Episode 356] | Dr. Drew Official Website - DrDrew.com

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, ob-mite, up with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. So Lisa Lampinelli. Yeah, buddy. This woman, in my opinion, one of the best female comics of all time, she ripped people. She was that super dark insult comic. Just, yeah, just would go for it.

She, her big break was like those roasts, right? Oh my God. Those are my favorite. Yeah, she roasted hoody, Chevy Chase, Dennis Leary, Pamela Anderson, that was the big one. I think that's the one that people really got to see who she was. Yeah, that's the famous one where Courtney Love looked like she was all on drugs during

the roast. Yeah, she was out of it. I think they must have replayed that a million times. That's actually the first time that I found Lisa was on that. So that was what she shares in this episode. She talked about that was the big break when people found her. Yep. And then she's been nominated for Grammys for her comedy albums. She was a celebrity. She was a contestant on the celebrity apprentice, actually made some waves on that show. Oh my gosh, she tells a Donald Trump joke in this, it's so fucking good.

It's so great. And then she kind of went through this huge transformation. I mean, she lost over a hundred pounds, had a bariatric surgery, and is now like a fitness and health coach, which is quite interesting. And so we talked to her a little bit about that as well. I mean, this podcast interview is hilarious.

We have a lot of fun with her, but she also goes deep. And overall, really enjoyed. It was really awesome to meet her because she's somebody that I really enjoyed. Well, you get to see why so many people liked her so much and basically allowed her to insult them. Like, you have to have that kind of quality where people just, you know, they could feel

that you're a good person, even though, you know, you're coming out of them a bit. Right, so anyway, we had a lot of fun interviewing Lisa, Absolute Blast. You can find her on her website, lisalamponelli.com, Lamponelli spelled L-A-M-P-A-N-E-L-L-I, and then of course on Instagram at Lisalamponelli.com, lamponelli spelled L-A-M-P-A-N-E-L-L-I, and then of course on Instagram at Lisa lamponelli.

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So without any further ado, here we are interviewing Lisa Lamponelli, the queen of mean. You're gonna bring it right up to your face. Is your amplifier? Why am I tenting for an order from this guy? Yeah. You sit there every day. The least threatening guy in the whole place. I'm not a damn. Why am I tenting front nor does from this guy? I Every day the least threatening guy in the whole place

I'm not Let him fool you He's like we call him the rabbit Chihuahua. Yeah, is he the power Jew Yeah No, no, please do this is probably up there with the least PC show you've done obviously you've done Howard Stern So Howard's all over the fucking place, but we're right up there with that we actually were coined as the Howard Stern of fitness when we started I read that I'm very impressed

Yeah, especially since you got that little producer who's annoying running around telling me where to put things in my mouth Come down buddy. I don't get turned on. I'm 62 inches in front of your face please. Yeah. Oh wow, that sounded dirty, but hey, you know. So you actually did a follow up interview. I heard you say right before we got on air that you did something with some of the TMZ guys.

Was that post the fucking launch and the dude off your show and shit? Did you do that after the fight? Oh oh the sand hose a nightmare show yes you know we don't want to wild that was the sickest shit ever because I had decided to retire from stand-up about a year ago right so that was one of my I think my second to last show and you know how when you give notice a job you have a very little patience left. That was my room.

I should have been in the postal worker and murdering the whole freaking place. So I realize now maybe I should have been more loving and gentle. But part of me is like, you know what? You're yelling at my show, like how dare you. And I'm still that way. Like, no matter what I do, I'm like, you can't just like interrupt. You can't just like do what you want. And he was a drunk and idiot. So part of me was like,

I had a little compassion for him afterwards, but then more for myself. I saw him. I'm saying he's feeling specific, or was it just like you being a knockus? Okay, I'll give you guys the exclusives since we're in San Jose, the city of nightmares for me.

Okay. Man, Jose, what we call it? Oh, yeah, of course you do. What happened was, I'm doing the show. There's a broad who is about, I don't know, I would say probably 60. She's on crutches and people behind her were being way too loud for her.

I could just tell by her face, she was annoyed and like she was like kind of holding her ears. So I started to miss, like come on, move up, move up. I go, don't worry, there So I started to miss. I said, come on, move up, move up. I go, don't worry, there's a seat up here. I go, come on. So apparently it was taking too long for Mr. Freakin' Wonderfall. And he goes, shut the F up and start telling jokes.

And my thing is like, okay, I'm trying to be nice to this battle axe with the crutches because I'm a new empathetic compassionate horn by sounds. I'll knew to you, yeah. And all of a sudden, this guy's saying, and it's somehow triggered me because my thing is, when a guy tells me to shut up,

I've never had a boyfriend tell me to shut up. My father was a gentleman, whenever do that, my brother's not like that. So I'm like, this guy's telling me to shut up. Oh, bitch, it's on. Oh, hell no. Yeah, so I went absolutely apeshit, which you saw on TMZ.

And I thought it was kind of hilarious because here's the best part. Okay, he goes to me, and because I always dreamed about doing this, I said I gotta do this before I retire. I go, you know what, man? I go, guess what? I'll give you your F and money back.

How's that sound, man? How much was it? And he goes, no, no. I'll give you money back. And I go, okay. I was stupid. I was stupid as this guy. So he gives me 20 bucks. And I go, okay, how stupid is this guy? So he gives me 20 bucks and I go, okay,

the optics on this are. I either, because he knows somebody's filming, right? So I either crumble it up and throw it in his face. I keep it, which makes me look super broke as, or I rip it up, which is wasteful. So I crumble up and throw in his face. What I should have done is to get good playing. I should have gone, I'm taking this 20 and donating it

to the Me Too Foundation. Yo, I don't. I'm dumb of me. I don't know my own PR strength. So I crumple up thrown his face and then I've done something I wanted to always do in comedy. I looked at my watch. I saw it already done an hour and 10 and I go, I'm done.

And I threw the mic, which I love. I've never done it. And the mic, which I love. I've never done it. And it went, which I love that sound. And then I was like, okay, I'm done. And I went downstairs and I was laughing so hard. And then TMZ picks it up and I thought it was funny. But of course, then everybody gets up in arms.

Like Kathy Griffin starts defending me. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, TMZ and mere friends. Like they're not a-holes. They're kind of pumping up my career. And I made a video for them, but it was blast. Some San Jose people were pissed, and part of us was like, well, you know what,

have better security, control your people, and then life is better. They're good. So now it's been like a year now, so do you miss it a little bit? Because I know, oh God, listen, let me tell you something, handsome. I'm gonna call him handsome,

because I didn't listen to your names. He's the pretty face. Cause you're flying, dude. Lee Frickin' Gorgeous except producer. No offense, but he's always the one I get. All right, you know I'm joking, of course. I am a lovely person now. No, but seriously, I say now

that I'm not doing stand up. I got out before I hated it. I always do that. I think what you should do in life is you get out of marriage before you hate each other, you get out of a job before you can't stand it anymore. And you just don't kind of make yourself miserable for longer than it's necessary.

So I miss it so little, the only time I missed it was when the award season was up, I usually would tweet during the award season and make fun of all the ladies and how they look in their dresses But now that I'm all body positive and all that crap I've got a not be mean about Viola Davis's awful gold tight dress Did I just say that? Yeah, but I'm bad No, but it does I could still be funny though, but I kind of can't be mean anymore because it's really not in my cards I'm gonna ask you about like how yeah, how do you keep that up?

How do you keep being funny, you know, now that you've shifted so much away from like insult to people? I know it just is something that I don't feel great about anymore, like it's just not me anymore. You know what we evolve kind of, you'll understand that someday. Yeah, when you're still going through it. No, but we all like we get older, we go,

oh, that's, I've done that already. Like, the last roast I did was on Howard Stern show. That's where we announced this whole retirement. And I was like, oh, this is so great. I don't have to do this anymore, but I don't hate doing it. Again, get out before you hate it. And I say this to your producer,

who's clearly hating life right now. Like, sir. He does. He's like, no, I just hate you, bad shit. The climate has changed a lot though. When I last like five years, people get offended with everything. Oh, I know.

Your comedy was so, I mean, some of my favorite comedy. I have a very dark sense of humor. Right. I think you're like one of the leaders, but the political climate has changed so much. I mean, what do you think about all this? Comedians telling, get some of the, get some of the, get some of the, get some of the, I know.

Dude, I've got, I got so lucky because I was like, wow, I was sort of grandfathered into when you could do that kind of comedy. So my fans already accepted it. But I was like, oh, millennials are not going to get this. Because you're talking about very politically correct people. People who are overly earnest. I mean, they stare at you if you drink out of a plastic straw. You know, these people want to kill you for killing a sea

turtle. I'm like, you know what, like if he's like, that's not why I quit comedy, but I go, eh, it's not really moving me forward. It's not moving them forward. I've done it already. You know what I was in the business for 31 years. That's a long run.

And they say now people have three careers. You know, at first I was a journalist. I wrote about rock bands in the 80s. Then I was a comic and I'm like rock bands in the 80s, then I was a comic and I'm like, oh, now I can coach and do workshops and still have fun. So it kind of just is my journey, I guess. Now, what about the therapeutic side? So I had the opportunity a few years back, I opened one of the first medical marijuana clubs in the Bay Area right across the street was a

comedy club. And for two years I hung out with all the comedians. And one of the things that I found in common with all of them was they all had like this internal dark side. And when they get out on stage, was that was when they let it all out. And I would think if that was kind of your therapy for 30 something years, there would be kind of something missing.

Have you found something else too? Oh, it was never my therapy. I always had therapy for years. And I think that's why those comics, the ones you're talking about maybe stay dark and can keep not being sort of progressing emotionally or spiritually the way they might want to. I think the ones who are really smart

get some therapy and help because it is a dark kind of thing. It like fills the hole. Oh, pay attention to me. I'm the only one up here with a microphone. I can yell at you. You know, so if you stay in that, you're gonna be sort of in that mode all the time. So I was starting to get therapy gone in my 20s.

And of course I have an Italian mother. So every time I'd go, she'd be like, ain't you done yet? And I'm like, bitch, it was your fault. Yeah. I mean, I love her. God bless you. She's 89.

When are you dying? I want that house. But like I think because I worked on myself so much, I just thought it wasn't filling the hole anymore. And I thought, I think that's what it is too about anything, whether with me it was food, relationships, comedy, it just didn't fill the hole like it used to and now it's just with self acceptance.

So how long did you do the therapy and are you still currently going through therapy? Oh my God, I finally found a therapist smarter than me. This is what happens when you're smart. I used to just outsmart every therapist. Like I would just like, cause I know, I've worked on myself so much, I know how to like use the buzzword.

You're like, bitch, I've seen Goodwill hunting. Yeah, I'm like, I can't. So I found one, my friend goes, okay, this one isn't gonna be as you, she's way smarter than both of us. You gotta go to her.

And she's an hour and a half session. So it's like hardcore, like you have to stay in it. And I'm finally figuring out like, I had deep stuff because the surface stuff is kind of easy to work. Not easy, it's where most people get to. Maybe hey, why do you use food, why do you use alcohol? Blah, blah, blah, blah. Mind like what's the real shit driving the negativity

or the self hate or whatever. So it just seems a lot better. And I look forward to seeing her because I go, oh, I could be better for people out there who need help. Right. What was the impetus that got you to lose all that weight because you look so different now than me.

I'm fucking beautiful. Oh, yeah. I've only got 27. Now what happened was I think I just got sick of looking in the mirror and going depression, eat more, depression, self hate. You know, it just kept going. There was no way out of it, and I was like, wait a minute.

What I got to do is I'd been using food as emotional tender since 18, since I went away to college. So I go, okay, here's what you're going to do. You're going to start working on this emotional eating, get the surgery, and then by the time the weight comes off, be able to keep it off. Because this is the whole problem with people who get weight loss surgery.

They forget you gotta work on your insides. It's an inside job for them. It's not an outside job. So I said, okay, so I kept the weight off so far seven years and every day as a freaking struggle. Because my go-to was like, okay, grab this when you're upset. And now I gotta actually feel my feelings, which sucks.

Yeah, I was just gonna say a lot of times people will replace because you take away that comfort and now what do I do now? Did you find yourself trying to replace it? I did have one which was shopping and since I'm such a cheap bitch now, I would only shop it like forever slutty one. Or age and I'm like, I'm not gonna go broke.

And that's the problem. When it doesn't really adversely affect you, you keep doing it, but then I'm like, wait a minute, I notice I'm doing it. So I'm at the age where at 57, you better start noticing your pattern. So I said, stop. So I stopped shopping for a year,

and I'm like, oh, I have feelings. But here's the problem, thing with feelings. I always tell people like, coach, I'm like, oh my God, feelings. But here's the thing with feelings. I always tell people like, Coach, I'm like, you know feelings can't kill you. Okay. You're going to stop crying someday. We all think if we start crying, we'll never stop. So we don't try not eating just once and let's see what really comes out. I find now even when my dad died years ago, I would like, even now when something comes up,

I go, oh my God, if I let myself, it's gonna be a whole day in bed crying. It's maybe five minutes, you just let it out. So I think that's what I had to replace. It was just feeling it. It gets, I mean, as queer as a town, Jeff to feel it, to heal it. You cannot just go around the feelings.

No, no, no, you have to go, the only way through is through, the only way, yeah. The only way, wow. Are you an AA? No. No, no, no, no. The only way through is through. Yeah, yeah. You know, wow. Are you an AA? No. No, no, no. The only reason I ask is because I heard that in like, Alan on one day.

You should probably be an AA. Okay. I'm just saying that's what I've been told about before. Yeah. That's the 12 step. So was that a part of your, was that like the beginning of this whole transformation? Was it that weight loss?

Yeah, I think what happened was, okay, so I married this guy Jimmy Big Balls and we decided it's because he had a large nut sack. I mean, it was pretty honor finally, you know. I've had to, I haven't seen anything that big in Harris since I stood next to Rosio Donald at Curbs. So this Jimmy Big Balls and me, we were both a hundred something pounds overweight and I said, you know, let's go to this doctor who worked on a friend of ours just to talk about it. Let's see. And in my mind, I'm like, I'm doing it

because I made a list of all the diets and exercise plans I'd ever done and I just couldn't make them work. I go to the doctor, he's like, that guy, he's amazing. He's very warm personality. And he said, you know how many people do you know at 70 who weigh what you guys do? And I'm thinking holy crap, I'm 50.

Like I don't want to just live 20 years. So I said, okay, I'm doing this. Of course, big balls was like, when we're walking in, he's like, I'm not doing. I'm like, what a gentleman. Yeah. Well, we're in a first. Yeah, he's not.

I'm like, what a gentleman. Yeah. Well, we're in a first. If you don't die on the table, I get it in June. And I'm like, what a gentleman. Yeah. Well, we end up first. Yeah, he's not sweet. That's very Italian.

You know, so we go and get the weight loss surgery. And I think then when my father got sick and I felt so happy as far as taking care of him and the joy you feel, even though someone is, you know, in hospice, you feel this joy that, oh, excuse me, you feel this joy that you get to give to them. That was like when he passed away, I'm like, oh, I missed that service. Like there was nothing I was doing for anybody else. So I started thinking, okay, how can I help people? I write this play about food and weight. I do these different, like, little kind of projects with people,

and I start coaching people. I was like, this feels like what I'm supposed to be doing. And again, just listen to the insides said, stand up isn't really bring me that joy anymore because you don't want to lose that sparkle. So that play was at the inspiration behind like kind of what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah. And the storytelling nights I do know about food and weight or about that. And just like even talking to people like, dude, do you guys, I mean, you coach individuals, right? How much do you want to fucking murder most people? I mean,

I just know seriously, and I have to learn. It's not about me. It's about what they can do. So now I work with some people with the food stuff, some with just emotional stuff, some with, you know, just, you know, terrible things that happen in them. I'm like, oh my God, okay, they need to go slow. They need to change at their rate, but I want to be the one who saves them. And now I go, wait, I couldn't save my dad, I can't save them. So it's a journey for me too. It's learning that I'm kind of, see, here's a problem. I think my life is so much better than everybody else's. I'm just like, just do exactly what I did, you know, we find, but that's not where they are. I find humor to be one of the best ways

to get close to people and kind of break through the difficult struggles. Do you find your skills as a comedian coming handy now when you're coaching people? Well, yeah, especially in workshops because I do these three day workshops that retreat centers and stuff. And I'm telling you, when I do storytelling

is sort of part of it, where you go, I'm going to tell my story so that they feel they can tell theirs because their vulnerability, it has to come out. So I find it comes out in their laugh and then at the end when they fill out the feedback forms are like, oh my god, I'm so glad you use humor because people, we can't be this heavy about the subjects all the time. So like, oh, when it naturally comes out, it's okay. So I don't have to ignore anything I used to do for a living. Right, right.

But you're not insulting them. No, I rarely, rarely look at somebody in a workshop and say, hey, you fat country. You know what I'm saying? Just, that'd be epic though. Actually, you know what, when I'm first, I'm still learning how to coach, but it's so funny. Because like one woman, she was so annoying me,

just on coaching, you're really fucking frustrating. And I'm like, oh, she's never heard that. Yeah, well that's the thing, too. And then she goes, why? And I go, because you're not moving at the rate, I think you should, and that's all on me. And I was just a bad coach, so I'm sorry about that. And now she's like a star, not because of me,

but because she pushed through her stuff. But you just learn along the way. Yeah. What was your first success story? Was it, was it, can you remember that? Oh my God, this guy, okay, this guy, Steve, he is like coaching Tony soprano. I know how Lorraine Bronca's character felt in the sopranos.

This guy, Steve, he's always like, yeah, you know, I got two girlfriends, I got a Adderolle and me and an alcohol, but I'm doing good. You know what I mean? No, but he's great. And what's good about him is, one night he had just had it. He's like, I'm doing it.

I'm taking that fucking Adderolle and me and I'm flushing it down the toilet and I go, I don't believe you. And he's like, I'll send you a freaking video. I go, you better bitch. So he gets it, he flushes it. And he has been off it ever since. But what makes me laugh about him is he now wants me

to send pictures of him doing everything. I'm like, stop it. Nobody wants to see your nuts act. But you know what I mean? But you know what's funny? Everybody is like, it's, do you find different personalities you have to treat them different? Like there are some women or I, oh my God,

I coach two young girls like teenagers, you have to be like a mentor to them versus a coach. With this guy Steve, with a couple of guys that could be hardcore, with some of the women, like more gentle, but it's just sort of they dictate how it is. What's the youngest person you've had a coach so far? Because I imagine that would be the challenge.

It is, because I'm still learning my ideal client. They always says your ideal client shows up as you in a former life or your former self. So when I meet a teenager who somebody refers me to, I'm like, oh my God, I was just like that. Like, or the lady with food issues, or the yenta who I said was frustrating, who's been a more frustrating person than me to people.

So I'm like, oh, this 12 year old girl, and she was sort of on the verge of being anorexic. And I was like, oh, that's gonna be tough. And she's not really just anorexic. She's freaking skinny and her parents overreacted, and we have so much fun when we talk. And it's almost like meeting them where they are. I found training people that I would learn more

about myself as I was working with other people. Is it helping you as well? Oh my God. I learned so much through them and I tell them too. I go, you're helping me work on my stuff. And specific examples too. Because honestly, I just got off the phone with a guy down the way over here.

He's so frustrating. And he has a terrible boyfriend. He's just like so bad. Like, you know how you know that, and just go, oh, we're the user and this and that. And I had really given it to him last session. I said, well, do you really want to know anything? Because I won't tell you if you don't want to know.

And he said, yeah, so I told him what I thought. And he got on the phone today and he said, I decided I am not breaking up with Johnny. And I said, okay. So part of me was like, you, Nidia, you self-hater, and then I go, so what can I help you with? And I'm like, that's helping me with my issue

of letting people go, letting, uh, meeting them where they are, which I hate. But I have to, because that's the only way you get through to people. It is, and you're such an, you come across such an honest kind of blunt, if you always been that way,

where you just tell people what you feel, you're getting trouble as a kid. Yeah, I remember in high school, I had a sitting in a row called Murderer's Row, because it was a Catholic school, but like me and these other kids were just always saying stuff. And this was like, and probably we were smart, we were in honors classes,

so they didn't want to really punish us, but they're like, oh, these ones can't be trusted. They're just speaking out and yelling at all the time, because we're funny and smart. So I found I would always sort of have no filter. And yes, it would get me in trouble. It still does. But, you know, I try to limit it as much as I can.

But honestly, sometimes I'll say to them, do you want to know what I really think or do you want me to give you an exercise to work on? So it's their choice. Do you appreciate it when people are like that with you? Yeah, super fun. I told my friends lately, I go challenge me. I go, you can't be the person who yeses me anymore.

Because of course I used to be when I was like, you know, beginning to get famous and all this, selling out places. Oh yeah, everything. Oh no, you were right to yell at that person. Oh no, that was right. You should yell at the desk clerk. Yeah, you know, you should call her a scene word.

Like what? No one should do that. And now I have friends who actually call me on it and oh my god. Okay, during my last storytelling show, it's a story telling show called Luzonet and it's three women and a guy talking about their weight and food issues, but really funny stories. So one of the girls comes out, she is supposed to put on her costume,

and her boobs are only truly hanging out. And I'm like, that's distracting for a show. That's like not the costume I told you. So I like took her sweater, like, because I'm so much older, and I pulled it shut, and my friend Frank goes, you really like kind of me-todd her. I'm like, oh my god, did I?

And he's like, yeah, you know what's wild? He would have never told me that a year ago, because he was scared of me. Now, I tell my friends, thanks for telling me, yeah, it hurt. It hurt that I had to apologize to her. Like I hate apologizing, but now I have to. So you just can't, yeah, I have to have friends who go look, that was out of line. You said something about apologizing to the individual, but not the group. I love it. I thought that was absolutely brilliant.

But so how exactly how I feel? Because again, the story of the guy in the front who's completely shut down at one joke and I'm like, okay, well, just hit him as bad. And I just asked him, like interview style, like, sir, what happened? Like your face just fell and he told me it was, you know, a particular joke. And I was like, can you come backstage, I wanna talk to you after the show.

And it was great. But yeah, it's like, not, if I apologize to quote all gay men, all gay women, all black people, it's like half of them are going, but we like you, why are you, it doesn't make sense. But if you're alienating them. Yeah, in a gentlemanly way, if somebody emails and says,

that hurt my feelings because dot, dot, dot, I'll be like, oh my god, like I'll apologize the rest of my life. I don't care. Yeah, but do you think people are just over sensitive to nowadays? Oh my god, everybody gets their feelings so easy. It seems like everybody's a little bit of a snowflake and all that. I have, you know, these, these millennial friends now Yeah, everybody gets their feelings so easy. It seems like everybody's a little bit of a snowflake and all that.

I have these millennial friends now because one of my nieces has a big, big, big podcast. And I meet a lot of these millennials. I don't think every one of them is a snowflake. Now that I met these girls, but I go some of them really are. Like you can't say anything. And I just go, you know what,

if I offend you personally, that's okay. I'm sorry about that, but I'm not gonna, hey, put it this way, her partner on her podcast is trans, but I knew her, him when, see, I knew him when he was a woman, so I consistently say she. She knows that in my heart, I mean it as a mistake. Which is true. I even have trouble now. We even saying like I don't know my old language.

So I think in their hearts, a lot of these people aren't that sensitive, but we make everything about, oh my God, you just hurt the entire community. What fucking community? Yeah. What do I have a community, Volkont with 57 years old, the bad hair with the blue streak. Shut the fuck up. You know what I mean? So yeah, it is really, and oh my God, and

anything about body positivity, like you always have to be like everybody's beautiful. And everyone come on. Are they? Was it Lisa? Was there an evolution of your standup? Like, did you, did you come out the gates as an insult comic or did you evolve into that? What was the evolution like for you?

Well, they always say like you never start out where you end up, like Rosanne didn't say, oh, I'm gonna be the angry housewife or whatever. So you kind of like see where it goes and I would notice, I was doing regular old comedy, but then I noticed I love talking in the audience, just like talking to them like just interview whatever So then it starts I start pushing it and I see they're not getting mad at me and then I start with the racial and the sexual and this that the other

And I'm like they like me like there's no way anybody's got mad So I just kept going and it really was a good niche, but never felt forced. Yeah, so I think the way comics like a guy My waiter last night at a place in LA goes to me. You know, I'm doing comedy, so I'm trying to balance it between like raw and stuff they'll like. I go, yeah, no, you gotta just commit, because they're gonna sense your hedging and then they're gonna be like, this guy's insincere.

I go, just commit, and you'll either make it as yourself or your fail as yourself and it's better that way. So yeah, I just kind of evolved over about seven years. Oh, wow, because I've heard, I don't remember where I heard it, but someone said to be a good comic, it takes like 10 years. Oh my gosh. Is that true?

Yes, and 15-ish. And you know what's funny? I always say like this too with my, how I looked at audiences for the first seven years, it was like, oh my god, I don't, I can't believe you don't get me. And then the next seven years was like, fuck you if you don't get me. And like after that, it was like,

if you get me, that's great. If you don't, that's okay too. But that comes with also therapy and going, like even now, somebody could be listening and going, oh, she'd be a great coach for me. Others would be like, ah, she's too rough. And then you go, that's okay, I'm not for everybody. Who wants to be for everybody? You can't be all things to all people.

No, and I think you become less genuine that way and less effective. Totally. You're just not effective that way. What was the peak of your stand up career? What was that like? Is that one point you were all over the place? Oh my God. The big break seemed to be that Pam Anderson roast because what happened with Pam was this was so hilarious. I'm only doing clubs at the time, you know, doing good dates, good clubs, but it'd go in and be hard to sell out because I wasn't known at all. So I go in and show up at the Sacramento punchline, I think, and they go, all this shows are

sold out this weekend and I go, who's here? Because I didn't think I was selling out on these shows. They go, you are and I go, all these shows are sold out this weekend and I go, who's here? Cause I didn't think I was selling out on these shows, they go, you are and I go, why? Like, why did I sell out? Is it gay pride or something? And they're like, no, the Pam Anderson roast was on and that's the one everybody watched because it was cool and also Quizz Courtney love

acted like such a nut at it, everybody wanted to see it and then they discovered me through it. So I kind of have those two battle access to think. Yeah, so that's when things started. I started doing theaters. Then like my big shows were like Radio City and Carnegie Hall and stuff like that. And it was pretty wild.

That was that the one recording loves and she was just totally out of it. Oh my God, yes, that's I do remember. Because it made the news, it made CNN, all this stuff. And people like, we got to watch this thing. So I kind of got caught up in that, which was really good. What's your weirdest encounter that you've had

with another celebrity? Oh my God. I don't even meet, I meet a few, but I always assume they won't know who I am. So I kinda go up and I like tell them who I am. And I can't even tell if they don't know. Like for instance, the Grammys, okay, I got nominated for two Grammys.

Last year I go to them, I take my little niece and nephew because I'm like, oh, they'll get a kick out of it because there's nothing less fun than going to an award show. It fucking sucks. Cause they give out the Grammy for best comedy like at that afternoon loser ceremony. They 800 Zydeco Awards and the Polka Band Awards and stuff.

And the night time shows the cool part. So I'm at the Grammys, we fly home with so exciting for the kids and stuff. So my niece knows that I, as even this old twat that I am, I'm obsessed with Derek Huff from Dancing with the Stars. I don't know why, but he's so cute. So we're on the plane and my niece goes to me, Hey, I think that's your boyfriend, Derek Huff up there and I go, oh my god, oh my god. So I go, let me know, you stare at him.

So we get off the plane, we're at baggage claim and he's looking at his phone and she goes, at least Derek Huff made a rookie celebrity mistake. He looked up from his phone and I know it's him. So I go over and this is me because my dream is to be on dancing with the stars That's how queer I am. So I go up and this I swear I must have like acted like it's such an idiot. I go Derek, I'm Lisa Lampin. I lean on who I am and he like starts backing away And I go I told my manager I have to be on dancing the stars would only have I dance with you And he's like okay okay, well, bye And I was like I just hit on a 12-year-old

And that wasn't cool Any knew not who the fuck I was Even this weekend I was at the Tony Robbins thing the seven-hour I was always walking 40 degrees frozen my my seawort off the whole time By me Rashad Jennings, you know, this guy, big NFL player, one dancing with the stars. I go up to him and he's like, hi, and I'm like, I'm a celebrity too. I don't even that's so bad I am with celebrities. I don't even know how to talk to them. So, hey, God bless. But yet Tony Robbins, I froze my seafront, man. They keep a 40 degrees. Where was it? Was it at the arena? Where was

it at? L.A. Convention Center. Okay. So it's a big, it keep 40 degrees. Where was it at? Was it at the arena? Where was it at? LA Convention Center. Okay, so it's a big spot. How many people? 15,000 people. Wow. Now I'm a celebrity as I just told her, she Jenkins, Jennings, whatever it is. So I got to go for free, for $2,500, but ticket.

Yeah. It's pretty good. So I was very close to Tony Robbins, Like I could have touched him, you know? But I swearing again. He yells. He makes you jump. Yeah. If there's one thing I'm uncomfortable with,

I like a high five every now and again in the right place, but I will tell you. Okay. This freaking jumping. I like sitting. I'm very into sitting. I go, is there some place I could just sit and take notes? No, you've got to jump.

After five hours I said I gotta go back. So I kind of dipped in every few hours, but I couldn't take it that much. How massive is he in person? He's very cool. I tell you one thing I learned from Tony Robbins. First of all, his message is good. Because at first I went with a very cynical attitude.

I go, okay, it's gonna be like drink the Kool-Aid. There's a, he slips. This at first I went with a very cynical attitude. I go, okay, it's going to be like, drink the Kool-Aid. He slips. This is what I like. He slips spirituality in there. Because I'm all about gratitude and working on yourself and appreciating life. He takes all these people, whips them into a frenzy and injects all this stuff about gratitude and about self-love and self-acceptance and all that stuff and being a leader of your community versus just of a company. And he's being sly, he's getting it in there. So while I could have shot myself in the face, they're running around and high-fiving and jumping. I say at least the message was good.

Oh, that's interesting. Do you have a spiritual practice is that part of what you're going through as well? Well, I do gratitude all the time. And it's weird when you don't force gratitude, because I never had that one with Oprah, she'd be like, right down five things in the original. Oh, God, shove it.

And I was just like, you know, I can't, it seems force. But there's something about when you just take stock every day, just sort of even not on purpose. It just sort of starts happening. Like you said, oh my God, I'm so lucky. Like even today, I had to get, I have like four hours sleep, I fly here, and I'm like, oh, I'm so lucky, I have this opportunity.

I'm like, what the fuck? Like where'd that even come from? I think if you just work on yourself, and you know gratitude works, it's impossible for it not to make your day better. So I always tell all the end desired work with I go You got to put in something with gratitude. I don't care if you write it down every day But it freaking changes your life. What a great message

I heard you say on a podcast that you were Celeb it or you were not having sex and stuff and something well how many years now since Jimmy Big Bulls We got a divorce two years into the marriage I started being celibate, which probably contributed to the fact that we got divorced like four years later. And... Which, how did you tell them that? You may have a case of a divorce.

You can't just happen, just happen. Yeah. But I'm like emotionally shut down that way. So that's what I'm still working on is going, I find no problem being in a room of 30,000 people, 50,000 people. I could do a concert for 100,000. I could be like a Tony Robbins.

If I would ever be so lucky. Let me tell you, one on one, I'm horrible. So I'm working on the friendship part first with people, and then if that's supposed to happen, it will. And I'm lucky because I don't miss having a boyfriend or husband because I had one since, you know, from age 12 to 50 without a break. So now I'm like, oh, it's good being lonely. It's good being alone. It's not using it as a numbing thing to fill the hole. No pun intended. It's a dirty mind. I know. Speaking of practices,

did you have like a series of practices that you would do to get you ready for to go do a big live event? Never. Guess what I would do you'd laugh, dude, because nothing's ever felt so easy as being on stage. Yeah. It was just always my thankfully something I was given. So this would be me. I'd be at like Morton's Day, Couser, whatever, with my friends before. And they'd go, Holy sits off, five of eight.

And I'm going, motherfucker, it's my show. When they got to start without me. So I just like, but I'd never be late or anything. But I was like, no, like I don't have to get ready. Oh, I didn't even know what I'd say the first few minutes. It's so unfun when the first thing you say is the same every night. That's great, so it's that raw.

I'm like, it's so much fun. It's even with workshops now. I go, I know I'm gonna tell stories and I know what points I have to hit, but I'm not sure which one. And the stuff that comes out, I think, comes from that better place. What about when you go in, do you... can you tell, like, if... This is gonna be... I'm gonna hit this out the park. I know it's gonna be a great show.

Can you tell going in, or have you been surprised many times when you're like, holy shit, that was incredible? I mean... I have the worst, biggest ego in the world when it comes to performing, because it doesn't come difficulty to me. Cause I just have personality. Listen, never gonna be the smartest person, the most clever joke writer. I just had a likeability.

People liked me, but you know it's gonna be a great show when you get a standing o'on the way in. You know, that's insane. That's gonna hype you up. That's really cool. Cause you go, oh, they already love me. But I never had like a, what I would consider a bad audience,

like who were like, because they knew who I was already. In the beginning, sure. Like when you're some jerk who's just doing open mics, they're like, oh, yeah. Did you have a favor show that was epic for you? Oh, well, I did love Radio City, and I'll tell you why,

and it's never for comedy reasons. It's always because, I remember, okay, Radio City, if you have ever been, it's that huge stage and there's the numbers on the floor for the rockets. So it says 1, 2, 3, 4, all the way across. So I said to my niece, who was about 12 at the time I said, listen, me and you and your friend, I said, why don't we learn a dance and we'll dance at Radio City. And we had six month of practice and then we had a big dinner before and this and that. And I'm like, everything comes down with me. It always came down to family. It's

really odd because I would think it was a show. Then I'd go, Oh, that was cool because Emily was involved because we practiced or my dad and mom had dinner with us. It just was weird how if I name my accomplishments, it always has to do with friends and family. I never even think about comedy. That's cool. You have a pretty close family? Yeah, we're really lucky, man. I mean, my mother, like I said, she's a battle-axman. She's never dying.

She's 89. This broad. We had a party for my house last year. The candles have the eight and the nine. She's hands and back. She goes, save them for when I'm 98. She's not going anywhere. She's not going anywhere.

I told her yesterday, she has activity six days a week. I'm like, I don't have activity six days a week. So she's cool. My brother's awesome. He works for ESPN. He's one of the producers of sports center. I have a PS6 awesome kids. Oh my God.

Six kids awesome. Oh my God. And they wanted them. I couldn't believe that. But now I see they're really good kids. And a sister with two kids, I love them too. Like it's very weird. Like I'm been able to get, because I always felt I was so consumed of work that I didn't

really connect as much. And in the past 10 years, that's been the priority. Wow. You guys have family traditions? You guys get together for specific holidays or do something every day? Oh, all of us. Roast everybody rare things. Yeah, right. I love that We made it basically when you're Italian you get together you eat and then you fight and then you that's the tradition I was gonna say this guy

I said I don't know what he is but it's so funny with Italian families because as you know You fight and then next day pretend nothing happened. Yeah, it's not a big deal. Nobody holds a grudge. Ah, those wasps, they have to cut each other out of the will. You gotta be on Italian like us, we don't even have a will, okay? It's under the mattress.

So yeah, it's really nice that we just kinda, everything's the same every year. I love that. So you have no fear getting on stage, you feel great, what scares you then? What makes you nervous? Cause that's something makes everybody. Oh, I have fear of intimacy with a partner. Wow. I'm so, me and my friend Cindy who went to the Tony Robinson yesterday. She's like, well, she was like, everybody there had a fear. She was, you don't have any accept.

I'm like, yeah, be in a relationship because here's what I love. I love the honeymoon phase. The first 30, I think the first three months, where you're just like, oh my god, I'm so cute. I love you so much. I love you so much. I hope you got video act, because that was really hot. And then I started to go, I start feeling resentment,

I start feeling taken advantage of, I start feeling like this isn't an equal, because my picker was off. I always pick guys I can control, even if they look like big guys. I always pick guys who didn't make as much money as me. I always pick guys I can control even if they look like big guys. I always pick guys who didn't make as much money as me. I always picked, no, I know, I love Jimmy, we're still friends, but I always pick the different level

than me. So when you see a punk? Kind of. So yeah, and who didn't mind being called certain things on stage? I go, now that I'm not desperate for love, and it's been seven years, I'm like, oh my God, life is so much better for me right now without.

I go, I bet what happens someday is I meet some guy. He happens to be an equal and then it's fine. I think it's by not focusing on it. So I focus on what I have. I literally, if my life was exactly this way, for the rest of my life, other than coming to San Jose, I'd be right. I'm kidding. I flew in special. That's awesome.

Are you never going back on stage? Not for stand up, no. But the storytelling nights are funny because everybody comes in going, are we going to laugh? And the story, come on, man, I can't not be funny. I mean, man, I'm here trying to talk about spirituality and we're laughing. So the fact is, the can't not be funny. Like I mean, I'm here trying to talk about spirituality and we're laughing. So the fact is the storytelling shows are really funny. And the only difference really is it's a full story. So instead of me telling like set up punchlines,

set up punchlines, like here's what really happened and how fucked up it was. Like story about food rehab. Like I committed myself to 28 days in food rehab. You know, how can that not be funny? Because here I am, all the girls are freaking anorexic. I could tell because they looked fucking hot. And then here I am 248 pounds, you know? So it's like you tell your truth, but then they just hear like what the point of the story is. So I'd love

still performing. Like come on, I could probably never stop that. So explain these story times. Like, how do they work? This is for people that you're working with in coaching and everybody comes to get this. No, no, no, this is just a professional professional actors and comics telling their stories. Yeah, so the other thing, yeah, it's like a third thing I do. So there's like the workshops that are groups of people working on the same issue, which is food and weight or changes of their lives or whatever. And then there's one-on-one coaching, which, you know, again, open to everybody, but pretty soon I'm going to have to slam the door on somebody because they're

annoying me. And, um, yeah, if you want to be coached, try me, by the way, leastlampinan.com, don't annoy me. That's what I should really just put out there. And then the storytelling nights are more of like an entertainment venue. That's excellent. Yeah, it's pretty cool. And you're loving it. I do, man. Like, literally, I think the biggest difference is, I look at my calendar now, and there's nothing in it that I go, ugh. Cause I, you know, I used to, if I had to look

and see I have to do press that I wanna do, I gotta pretend to be into it. I gotta pretend to be funny today when I'm not feeling it. Now it's like joy. I don't know what happened to the lifted, you know? Oh, you do have a phenomenal energy. No, I wouldn't be. Thank you, because, boy, can you imagine being

with the coach who has the shitty energy? You imagine? I'll change your life, you can. Okay. And I think also people said to me, when I was taking these workshops on how to become a real coach and a workshop leader, they're like, don't try to be somebody you're not.

You bring humor, you bring that funny, tough love, no nonsense thing. There's a million soft coaches who are like, um, how are you? They go, look, you are you. That's what you bring to the table. It just be you. So I think we have to bring that. Yeah, I can't, I can't, I can't agree with you more. I've worked with people for a long time. And I think the more I became myself the more the easier it was to connect to people and the more effective I became Well, do you ever have to turn people away Being up out of time constraints, but out of just like it's just not a match. Oh, yeah I have a few times and I just being I was just very honest with them and I did try to find someone else with them

But if you're not helping them, you're not helping them right you. You know, that's the bottom line. So yeah, I even said to this guy today who was annoying me, I just go, well, it sounds like you've got it all together. I know, you know, because he thinks he does. And I go, well, it sounds like you figured out sort of the retirement plans, sort of figuring out your life situation. You have another session paid for. Why don't you give me a call when there's something I could help you with? And he's like, no, this has helped me so much. You really helped me question stuff. And I was like, I did. So I guess we kind of go, I often check in. I go, what the fuck do you need me for? Because some of them in their lives are pretty good. And they go just to have somebody to say,

okay, I'm not crazy. So, but you're right. You have to, if you don't feel it, you got to farm them out. You're not helping them. So, you were on the apprentice a while ago. Yeah. When you were on that show, did you ever think, oh, this guy's gonna be the president? Well, when the time he grabbed me by the pussy, it was very clear. Very clear.

I did not think he'd be president, that's when he was floating it out there. Yeah. You're like, I was one of those lazy, did care, right? Yeah, yeah, right. So, he's like, oh, I'm gonna be the president. I'm thinking it's like the little kid who says they want a pony for Christmas.

Like it's not gonna happen. Then it happens. And it was insane, dude, because everyone called me and they were like, oh, you know, like this is a story. I'll tell you a brief version of it. This is a story I tell in the storytelling show, which is that everybody calls me from newspapers and stuff and out, let's going, did he make inappropriate comments

towards the women and this, that the other. So I said no, but here's one thing that happened and it wasn't inappropriate. We're always in the boardroom and at the time there was really hot chicks on my show. So he would go around the room and compliment all the women, but I know I'm not, you know, come on.

I'm 248 pounds, I'm 50 years old. I'm not his type yet. So I know he's not going to compliment me and I'm okay with it. So he's like, Teresa, you look beautiful today. Aubrey, you get more lovely with every week. And then out of nowhere, guys, he goes Lisa. And I'm like, oh my God. It's my turn and he goes Lisa doesn't Teresa look beautiful I'm like last but then I was like you're kind of

inside of like I am a chair I'm a woman like you're feeling weird and I don't think it's a coincidence that right after that and it wasn't because of him but it was like sealed the deal like I you feel weird. And I don't think it's a coincidence. They're right after that. And it wasn't because of him. But it was like sealed the deal. Like, I'm not gonna be invisible. I'm gonna like get this weight thing taken care of. I'm gonna work out my life. So I don't question myself physically all the time.

And like, it's weird, because Trump kind of helps save my life. Because then I'm gonna live 40 years instead of 20. I don't let that fucker. I'll tell you that much. But isn't that wild? That's a lot of fun. That's a lot of fun.

Do you look at every situation that happens in your life? And do you have this like, you see like you have this ability to right away see the humor in it? And would that supply a lot of your material when you get up on it? Yeah, and what but also, you know what's even better? It helps me now because I honestly feel,

it sounds corny, but nothing happens to us. It happens for us. So if I didn't get, quote unquote, what I should have, sitcom, if I didn't get the marriage I wanted or whatever, thank God, it saved me from something. They always go rejection is God's protection. If I had gotten that, where would my life be? Would I even have a connection with my friends and family? Would I be just some crazy fat drunk idol bitch?

I won't even mention names what we know I'm talking about. No but it's like, I go, well I learn from it. But then you can see the humor and it too. So you could bring it to the stage and go, oh, at least I can joke about it because I know it wasn't a tragedy. You know, I had deals with HBO, Fox for sitcoms, they didn't happen. Thank God. Can you imagine my life might be nuts?

So we go, this is what's meant to be. It was depressed every time you weren't on the latest roasts. Oh, thanks. Actually, I think what happened was I turned down the Charlie Sheen roast because what happened was it felt so mean because he was such a mental guy So I go I can't really go and make fun of like a mentally ill guy So Amy Schumer said to me this was so cute like a year after she goes Lisa the reason I have a show is because you said no And they put me on the road so I was so proud. Oh, wow, and I will look what happened

Yeah, I went where I was supposed to. Oh wow. And I will look what happened. Yeah. I went where I was supposed to, she went where she was supposed to. And again, that could be somebody else could hear that and go, oh, why did I do that? And I'm like, dude, she's fucking gangster. I'm doing what I need to. She's doing what she is.

Do you stay up on the comedians right now? Do you follow comedy? No, one, and I'll tell you why. I don't get it. I like old fashioned. I like edgy. I like, Rickles was my favorite. Of course.

I'm a big star in the fan. I love this David Tal, Jim Norton. I like all the edgy guys. Yeah, that tells my favorite. These fucking, Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh- I leave my fucking stories at bunchlines. No, but I honestly never heard of anybody. Cause watchin' stand up for a comic is like doing homework. Like I know people who like, I talked to a girl who was on top chef and I go, do you watch cooking show?

She goes, no, it's like homework. It, cause you know it's not really like that. Sure, sure. So I never watch stand up. I couldn't name one young stand up person. Well, yeah, you and Ross were my favorite song about one of the, cause you guys were just ripped people and it was terrible. Well, the greatest part about me and Jeff is that we were good friends so you could say

anything you want to each other, because you know you got love. Now our comedians, like when the cameras are off, because I can only imagine when no one's watching you guys must be 10 times worse. Yeah, yeah, but I'm so thin skinned. Back then I was really thin skinned, so I would just like leave. Like literally I would go to the comedy seller, and they were so mean. There's this legendary table at the comedy seller,

and they were so mean offstage, and I was older. So I was always like, but I just did that on stage, isn't that where it belongs? Cause I thought we'd just sit and talk. Like, no, how fucking stupid was I? And I was like, oh, the were offstage now, aren't we just kind of hanging and they'd be still mean to each other and I just walk, I'd go home.

Oh, wow. I would be so scared. Yeah. And I was like, all right, well, it's just not my, it was never my, I think what I told Dr. Drew this and I think this is Drew right after I retired, I go, I don't think I was ever first a comic than anything else.

I think I was first a connector of people. I think I felt comedy was a way to connect and a way to connect with others and connect them with each other. Now, I'm still a connector, but I use a different medium. So I think that's what it is. And those guys are real comics.

Like they never wanted to stop. And I wanted to just like go home. Any long lasting relationships that you've built through comedy? Not really. That's what's weird. I really got out of the whole thing. Like I'm friendly of course with Amy and Cathy Griffin

and those girls. But the guys, I'll bump into them once in a while. You don't want friends with you guys God have this guy on if you haven't already. Do you know Brad Williams is? Yeah. Fuck. He's his local.

I guess I just went to see him. I live in Connecticut now. I just went to see him at Mojigo with my nephews. Okay, first of all, handsome dwarf, not kidding. It is so funny. I've shown women a picture of him. And he's fucking hot. Like he's super short, but he's super cute.

He is one of the funniest guys in the world. That's the kind of guy he has a big heart. Like I always get very caught up in friendships with the guys with the big hearts. Like, you know, Sebastian, Manaskown. That guy's the same way. So I think it's just kind of those are the ones and Ross any day of the week, Jeff Ross could call me

and ask me for a favor and I'm be like, definitely. We might need you to reach out to Brad then because I think Sal pissed him off like two years ago Because we stood him up The people What was that what there was there was something that went happened to us. We got stuck so we're traveling He was supposed we were supposed to have him on the show Oh, no, and he got he got pushed back and rescheduled like twice I think and we felt like the biggest it's the only time we've ever done that massive assholes

And of course you bring him up. I know that's why I had to tell him I had to share the story I'm like that is the only time I'll take a picture with you guys and send it to him These guys ask I mean Brad was so funny because like he would literally do things like he, his jokes are just so good. Like, I said, he said to me once he goes, well, I'm going to come to your show on your birthday and jump out of a cupcake. Yeah.

I just love that you what, what I like is guys like that who you don't feel sorry for. Yeah. Because there's this tendency to go, oh, it's like, no, he's a fucking power child. Don't worry about it. It's confident, real confident. Yeah, yeah. You mentioned Kathy Griffith, that whole deal that went down

where she did the picture with the severed head and all that and that was insane. Yeah, it went crazy, but I think, I don't think it's the same as how comedians now get, you know, we'll get told off for making jokes. It didn't come across as a joke? I think it came across. That was a problem.

It didn't have a punchline. What I think she should have done, I mean, clearly she's made the you just resurgence in history of comedy and is killing it. Is she okay good? Oh yeah, she needs no advice from me. But here, like she sold out, I think Carnegie twice or something and the thing is you just go,

well, I would have liked a punchline or to double down on it, never apologize unless you mean to stick to the apology. Like, you know, somebody said something about her where she should have like, then bring on two heads and double down on it. But, you know, in hindsight, you're kind of probably scrambling and going, what do I do?

Cause I've gotten in trouble like that. I'm not that bad. And you're just like, oh my God, oh my God, everybody hates me, I have no career, what do I do? And I've gotten in trouble like that. I'm not that bad. And you're just like, oh my God, oh my God, everybody hates me. I have no career. What do I do? And then you just kind of do the wrong thing. So I'm glad you made a comeback.

Well, I think comedians play such an important role in society. We don't rethink why we just, they just make us laugh. But comedians are always the ones that could say the shit that no one else could say. And the best political commentary, the best criticisms always came from comedians historically. Oh, yeah, definitely.

And when I started to not love it as much, I was like, okay, I can't retire for like three more years. I go, how I'm going to shift it is I'm going to see a YouTube video by a guy. I love this by a comic. He said, instead of get laughs, look at it as giving laughs, and your whole demeanor changes. The audience just really feels taken care of and likes you so much more.

You're giving instead of getting from them, and that was so awesome. Because you're like, oh, it's really not about me. So it helped that way too. I think a lot of comics, unfortunately, it's all about them. Well, because it feeds you, I'm sure that's like addictive.

Oh yeah. Again, fills the hole and it's like, okay, but do I really need that much attention? You know, like now I hope, my whole lesson is the smaller the better. Like literally if I have three clients and do one workshop every three months, maybe the smaller the better is the lesson for me

that I still have self-worth despite having a small business. So I think it's just learning to go to question what we always thought would make us feel good. That's a great message. Yeah. Do you ever you have you ever coached other comics? Have you ever helped young comics? I've helped like mentor them. I'm mentoring a girl. And this was really funny. She called me about my sister last month helper and she'd been discovered by a really famous guy

and she was debating if she should quit college and work with him. And I said, well, is he kind of me too kind of guy? Are you gonna get me too? And she's like, oh no, he's, you know, has a ton of bits about it, how horrible it is. And he's very famous. And I go, fucking quit college.

I go, who cares about college? I go, you know what, I go, you can fucking quick college. I go who cares about college? I go you know I go you could always go back I go tell your dopey parents. You'll do one course a year and like freaking get your degree but you know you never will this is just between us so I like kind of just go I I love helping people not make the mistakes I would have made which is just play it safe. Well make sure you don't quit you know you have to get that degree. What the fuck good did my college degree do me? It seems like you have to go all in or You're not gonna make it never

This is why Will Ferrell is so great every Will Ferrell movie you go Maybe he's not the funniest best actor, but he commits Yeah, you think he's that guy, which convinces me he's the funniest guy on the planet Yeah, so with comedy you've got to just go come on. What are we doing? You think he's that guy, which convinces me he's the funniest guy on the planet. So with comedy, you've got to just go, come on. What are we doing? We're gonna really be an accountant. Come on.

Well, I mean, I want to be respectful of your time, Lisa. I'm a very important person. I got a long, long, long, long, long. Now, you know what's funny about life, too? It's like, you ever do this? You ever just like say yes to a bunch of crazy shit that you didn't think you would do? That's why I got a like a conference call in 15 minutes

if someone asked me, listen to this shit, somebody says to me, I have a benefit. I don't do a lot of gala's on that crap, and if I do I dress like this, I'm like, I don't care. Like you get me this way. So I was in an Oscar gala dress like this in my freaking baseball shirt and my die care. And I was like, okay. So yeah, see?

So I'm, it's you ghost meat. Would you be part of the readers and writers, festive, all we had, Alan Alta as our keynote. And I know your book is coming out. Oh, no fucking book coming out. I said, yes, anyway, so you say, I don't know what I want to do on the Friday night to open the freaking weekend of the readers and and Reiders Conference. And I'm going, I'm doing it.

I don't care. So I kind of look at my email and if it makes me laugh and lights me up, I go, I'll fake it. I'll do it. But isn't that funny? Ooh, just, we gotta, people, if you're listening and I know you're not, please just start saying yes to some dumb shit that makes you happy

and say yes to being coached by the wonderful Lisa Lampanelli Because she's a baller Next time you're off she's doing thank you With a bigger dick Shall I plug my website? Yeah, plug all the holes. Yes Lisa Lampanelli.com and by the way if you can't spell it I can't coach you I'm sorry LisaLampanelli.com for workshops coaching and my storytelling shows come out and laugh you bitch

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