Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1014: The Benefits of Cryotherapy & Ice Baths, Creating the Ultimate Morning Routine, When Children Should Begin Working Out & MORE

Episode Date: April 20, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the age a child can start working out in the gy...m with a parent, how to choose the best morning routine, cryotherapy and ice baths for recovery and the benefits of meditation. Adam’s new Organifi ‘pre-podcast’ stack: Pure and Immunity. (3:45) How do we get wealthy people to want to do more good things?? Cater to their ego. (10:50) Is old man strength a real thing?? (16:07) Carl's Jr. is testing out a CBD burger in honor of 4/20, BANG Energy class action says drinks don’t provide ‘Body-Rocking Fuel’ & MORE. Why quality always has staying power. (19:22) The new trend: Being ‘authentic’. (30:40) Joe Rogan vs. Media Matters. (36:06) 3D-printed heart made using a human patient's cells. (40:12) Justin introduces Sal to new rock music. (45:27) U.S. doctors accused of trading prescriptions for sex and cash in a major scandal. How just because you have a Ph.D. doesn’t mean you have integrity. (46:15) #Quah question #1 – What’s a good age for someone younger to start working out in the gym with a parent? (48:57) #Quah question #2 – Jim Kwik and Hal Elrod both talked about morning routines, but their routines were quite different. For example, Jim Kwik’s suggested keeping your eyes closed and remembering dreams. Hal Elrod said to put your phone across the room, so you would have to get up to turn off the alarm. Which do you subscribe to? (59:59) #Quah question #3 – What are your thoughts on cryotherapy and ice baths for recovery? Placebo or actually valuable? (1:06:51) #Quah question #4 – What have been your experiences with meditation? What benefits have you seen in research or personal experience? What advice would you give people looking to add meditation to their lifestyle? (1:15:35) People Mentioned Kyle Kingsbury (@kingsbu)  Instagram Joe Rogan (@joerogan)  Instagram Jim Kwik (@jimkwik)  Instagram Hal Elrod (@hal_elrod)  Instagram Wim Hof (@iceman_hof)  Instagram Dr. Justin Brink (@premiere_spine_sport)  Instagram Dandapani (@dandapanillc)  Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned April Promotion: MAPS Split ½ off!! Code “SPLIT50” at checkout Mind Pump Live Q&A Organifi  **Code “mindpump” for 20% off** LVMH & Kering Pledge More Than $300 Million to Help Rebuild Notre Dame Knuckle Carl's Jr. is testing out a CBD burger in honor of 4/20 - CNN VPX Sports/Bang Energy Sues Monster Energy Co. and Reign Beverage Co. for Trademark Infringement, Trade Dress Infringement, and Unfair Competition for Monster's Knockoff REIGN Energy Drink BANG Energy Class Action Says Drinks Don’t Provide ‘Body-Rocking Fuel’ NED  **15% off first purchase** ‘It’s genuine, you know?’: why the online influencer industry is going ‘authentic’ The Joe Rogan Experience disproportionately hosts men 'First' 3D print of heart with human tissue, vessels unveiled Opioid crisis: US doctors accused of trading prescriptions for sex and cash in major scandal Mind Pump Ep. 1007: Hal Elrod On Cheating Death & Creating The Miracle Morning Mind Pump Ep. 1002: Jim Kwik’s 10 Keys To Getting More Out Of Your Brain Philips Wake-Up Light Alarm Clock with Sunrise Simulation, White (HF3500/60) Mind Pump Free Resources

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Starting point is 00:00:53 Then we talked about the science behind Old Man's Strength. It's a real thing. We talked about Carl's Jr.'s new CBD burger. What the hell, don't they know it's THC that makes you hungry? It's a green burger. We talked about the bang drinks, you know those chemical-laden caffeine drinks and their lawsuits with Monsters rain and apparently there's another lawsuit saying that they pixie dust their stuff bang bang
Starting point is 00:01:17 Then we talked about how the online influencer industry is all going authentic. Isn't it funny? It's almost like like we called it a while ago. Weird. Joe Rogan is getting attacked by media matters. Apparently he doesn't have enough women on his show. We talked about the first 3D printed heart and they used the patient's own cells. This is crazy. I talked about this new band that I found because Justin showed me them. They're really good. Wolfmother checked them out, great workout music. And then Justin brought up a very interesting article. Apparently there's doctors that are trading pain pills for you guessed it.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Sex. Sexual favors. Then we get into the fitness part of this episode. First question, what's a good age for someone younger to start working out in the gym with a parent? So what age should kids start working out with their parents? Next question, this person is bringing up a couple of our past episodes. We had Jim Quick On and how Elrod, they both have morning routines, but they're both different. Which one do we subscribe to? Do we think one is better than the other? I have morning wood.
Starting point is 00:02:24 The next question, thanks Justin. What are our thoughts on cryotherapy and ice baths for recovery? Do they work? Do they make you healthier? Are they good for muscle growth? Are they good for fat loss? Find out.
Starting point is 00:02:37 The next question, the last question actually, what are our experiences with meditation? And what advice do we have for people looking to add meditation to their lives. Also this month, Maps Split, our Body Builder Advanced Program, 50% off if you want to sculpt and shape your body. If you want to develop it to look like a damn statue, this is the program for you.
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Starting point is 00:03:36 at mapsfitnessproducts.com. Wake me up before we go, go. I'm gonna, so I'm gonna double this up. I'm gonna double this up today. Am I, is this gonna be okay? What are you taking? I'm gonna sell I'm gonna double this up with Dan I'm gonna double this up today am I is this gonna be okay? I'm gonna what are you taking I'm gonna you're going double deep. I'm gonna stack the Organifi pure with the organifi immunity. What do you think about that? I don't think there's any interactions, so I think that's a fine combination. Let's see what it tastes Organifi pure is the new tropic one one of the the chief ingredients being lion's main,
Starting point is 00:04:05 chief, chief. Lion's main mushrooms which captain. I'm gonna bring chiefs back. We used to say chief a lot back in the day. I like general. Yeah, it wasn't, didn't chief also mean like when you'd smoke weed? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I just can't win like somebody calls you chief. The chief on the, the chief on the joint. Is that what, or is that chief? No, well, chief is is also used. Or am I thinking, oh yeah, like chief and I think in Cweaf. You don't like when you're smoking or chief. But that would be a question.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Yeah. Did you last totally different? Did you just reference in an organified commercial queuing? No, you just dropped some Cweaf. Did you really just decide that you're commercial? I can't wait, I can't wait for Rachel. I love it.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Rachel sends us over our audience that doesn't know this. Like anytime we do our commercials for our companies, they, we sound, we send. I don't think she sends all of them over. Oh yes, the good ones. No, she sends them all. So that's part of her job is she sends over the, well this is off to a good start.
Starting point is 00:04:57 This sound bite. As soon as I said Ceefe, Doug, like he had palms so hard, he almost knocked himself up. So I'm gonna combine the, the pure, which we typically have. Pure is the Neutropic, we have that before. Yeah, Lyons main boost BDNF in the brain, which is good for the brain. But I'm gonna jack this up with this new immunity one
Starting point is 00:05:17 that looks like. Yeah, they have a new product, a new product, I don't know why I said that weird, called immunity. And so, and it's orange flavored. I think they're like, hey, if you feel like you're getting sick or whatever. So I'm looking at the ingredients here. And they do a pretty good job, man.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Like, it's got mushroom beta glucan in it. So this is something for mushrooms that has been shown to have adaptive genic properties. So it helps the body deal with stress. But also has these kind of a immune boosting properties. One of the studies I pulled up showed that it's got a favorable effect on cancer cells even because it boosts the immune system, which is good. It's got, of course, zinc, ginger, and turmeric, which are both anti-inflammatory, up the
Starting point is 00:06:01 body deal with inflammation. Smart. Vitamin D3, you've got to have, you know, you're D3 levels are low then your odds of getting sick Seemed to get go up higher. There's a lot of people that speculate on that Mm-hmm, and it tastes pretty good, but you mixed them both. How is the mixed flavor? Not bad. It's really yeah. Now here's a deal Adam doesn't lie He's oftentimes said certain supplements are discussed this is a fact. Yeah, now here's a deal Adam doesn't lie. He's oftentimes said certain supplements are discussed This is a fact. Yeah, so yeah, no, I would tell you if it was not good now. That's actually pretty good
Starting point is 00:06:29 It's pretty good together. I kind of wish though. It's it's good enough that I wish I would have now tasted it by itself So that was a fail. It's mild You've already tasted. Yeah, it's got a mild first of all Do you really have to ask me if I ever try a supplement that comes in here? Well, we just got it. I tried before we put it away. Oh, it's going to say it's silly. We got it just like a day or two ago. Wasn't it been that long, has it?
Starting point is 00:06:50 Uh, yeah, I got it right away. I popped that in some water, shook it up and had a good time. Yeah. Drink it. But the purer, have you combined the purer yet with caffeine? Yeah. Not like literally. I've combined it with the, with the red. I've had a, I've had a cup of coffee in my way to work. with caffeine. Yeah. Not like literally.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I've combined it with the red juice. I've had a cover coffee on my way to work. Hold on, I just realized something. You guys just had a packet of pure two hours ago. I didn't. I didn't, you guys did. Just Adam did. I did.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Coffee, this is why we hide the supplements from Adam Doug. Yeah, because he goes too far. We talked about that somebody has to find the line. Yeah. Adam's pressing the boundaries for us. I remember the time. I'm looking out Yeah, because he goes too far. We talked about that somebody has to find the line. Yeah. Adam's pressing the boundaries for us. I remember the time. I'm looking out for our audience. My favorite time was when we went to Onet.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Oh God. And we were podcasting. I was possessed by demons. We stood in the back. I don't know if that's what happened. That's what he thought happened. Yeah. Your head was spinning.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I called my mom. We were in the Onet house, and they have all these free onets, supplements in there. And Adam took two or three servings of, what's the one that they have? Alpha brain. Alpha brain, which is already two or three times more than you're supposed to. Then we get there, and Kyle mixes up like another two servings of, and we're sitting there halfway through the podcast.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I look at Adam, and he's just doesn't look good. Yeah, some stuff. There's a video float around. Seven miles there. through the podcast, I look at Adam and he's just, doesn't look good. Yeah, some stuff about it. Yeah. There's a video float around. Seven miles there. Float around on it YouTube, I think, of that, right? And you can clearly see. You can see him.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Adam, everything in his might to prevent himself of crashing closely. Isn't it interesting how that works? Like something that's supposed to be like an upper, how it, you know, take too much of it and then it ends up doing the complete opposite. Like I remember that podcast very vividly like, I can blame it on me too.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I was so, I was so mad at you. Fucking asshole. Well, I just showed you, I was irritable too, right? That's you were super irritable. I was tired, I was irritable. Fuck it, Sal. What a terrible it ever. I didn't want, you know why?
Starting point is 00:08:38 I didn't want to go to Iohasca. I was like, God damn it. Yeah. I remember on the way over, I'm driving over there and I remember telling the guys I'm like can we please Do a podcast with somebody from the on it crew and not talk about Ioska like I was just it's impossible Yeah, and then that he was like 20 minutes in and then I blame it on set It's just like it was his fault. Do you remember when it hit you though? I do it was a I got I mean I remember Yawning like big time like Like we were recording and going,
Starting point is 00:09:05 oh, like in the middle of the podcast, I'm like, God, this is like weighing on me. And then I remember like leaning on my hand because I was getting so tired. Yeah, I was, I remember I just came off of the flu. So I was like super weak and was not feeling either. I think we're all in like a low state of energy on that podcast.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I was feeling okay, but I could tell that you guys weren't feeling it, but I could definitely tell Adam because it hit Adam all of a sudden. Like you had gotten over getting sick and we were all like, fuck, thank God. You weren't, because you had a really bad flu. It was real bad, yeah, going into that. But Adam was fine, and I remember we're sitting there
Starting point is 00:09:40 in the podcast, and it was like a light switch. It was like, yeah, Adam went from, hey, what's up, what's up, what, hey, what's up, all the send- And I was like, whoa, to the point where I thought Kyle sprinkled something in his fucking drink, I'm like, what do they do? They sabotage him a little bit? Possibly, because that was one of the times,
Starting point is 00:09:57 I've only projectile vomited a handful of times. Really? And that's one of the, I can, that's why you thought you had demons? Right, I did, dude. I did. Adam came out of the bedroom and he's like, I was throwing up hard last night. I think it was spiritual warfare. What? What even spiritual in the after me? And then I pieced it together because you didn't even play that song or anything.
Starting point is 00:10:20 No, at that point Adam hadn't pieced it together. He's like, I don't know what happened. It was so weird to hit me all of a sudden. And he's like, I know, he's coming up on his crazy theories. And I'm like, how many servings of whatever you do? Yeah, and then we had it all mixed in the shake at the bar. After our workout. I added it up and I'm like, oh, you got a lot. You reached toxic levels, my friend.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Yeah. That's what happens if you have too much of that hilarious lesson. Don't try it on kids, but he survived He'd think God I did I'm here still. Yeah, so hey, you know you brought up on the show It's just what I think yesterday or whatever it was the the the burning of the church of Notre Dame, right? Oh, the cathedral and you brought up the what 600 million or something like that has been donated So 700 yeah something like that, right? So I looked into that further and more than half of that money
Starting point is 00:11:08 has come from like two people. No way. It's like the two richest people and one of them owns brands like shit, what's one of the Louis Vuitton and I forget who the other company or owner is. And they're like the two big swinging dicks in France and they were going back and forth, one up in each other. So it was kind of like a, like a, like a, like a,
Starting point is 00:11:30 it was like a charity pissing contest. Oh, see? Like one does a hundred million the next day, come over to this too. Oh, good one. It's for good cause though. Exactly. This is, I've been thinking about this for a long time. Like how do we get wealthy people to want to do more good things?
Starting point is 00:11:46 And then I'm like, oh, I know, just cater to their ego. If we made it all of a sudden, if society, and you could use the media to do this, if you could all of a sudden make it cool to donate to charity and to do this and to make it super cool, you would see every select, remember like when the celebrities were buying the Prius?
Starting point is 00:12:03 Like, oh, here I am driving my Prius. Everybody look, I'm fucking, I care about the environment. Besides the fact that I fly in a private jet every week. If you can make it cool to where it feeds their ego, you'll see people with money. Oh, they've tapped into this for a long time. I mean, I was just at an event with Katrina's work. Every year they have this annual event at the, what's the, what's the botchy ball place over in in Los Gados. Oh, uh, comfortable. Yeah. So every year they, they,
Starting point is 00:12:29 they, they, they rent that entire place out, they have a huge, fun place. They have a huge tournament. And it's like, let's say that right. So yeah, you do. Well, no, no, now you're being you're making little racist, uh, you know, trying to be funny there. Hi, yeah, yeah. That's different, different. culture, culture, every, every year they have this, this massive tournament, where all the biggest GCs come in and they're competing against each other.
Starting point is 00:12:56 And it's all for good cause. It's, I forget what the, what hospital that they work with when they do this. But it's, you know, they donate a lot of the money to that they auction off all these things. Like a picture of a, you know, ball player signed or some shit, which, you know, it would go for like 200 bucks. But because it's going to a charity and a good cause and you got all these millionaires that are in there, like these things go for like ridiculous prices,
Starting point is 00:13:24 like $20,000, $40,000 for these things. And it's always the CEOs. And there's, so I think there's like, I don't know, I wanna say like 12 or 14 massive companies that are all competing against each other. And Katrina always participates in the event. She always goes and plays on one of the teams. But then all the CEOs are there.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And when it comes time for the auction, like, oh, yeah, so it's like my dick's the guy to sit and eat with their little sign. Oh, it's totally this, you know, that you, you know, those are all the ones who are making the bids on this. There's, there's hundreds, something plus people there, but it's the fucking 10 CEOs that are buying the, the bit signed baseball or the or the you know the helicopter ride for a pic nix, you know, and it's like getting auctioned off for cater to the ego and you'll get what you want, you know, it's funny. I was I did a post on my story yesterday where did you guys see the post where it shows like a picture of Leonardo Caprio. It's like a drawing and
Starting point is 00:14:21 it's jet and it's like it's like I care about the I will hope we, I want all of us to reduce our carbon front print. And there's like three slides later and he's in his private jet. And there's a big cloud of zooming out. Yeah. And he's inside the window. Yeah. And it just reminds me that if you really want to know what
Starting point is 00:14:35 someone cares about and stands for, don't listen to their words. Just watch them. Look at their actions. Their actions will tell you everything. So here's an interesting one now this is a fascinating one in in this i have no again i don't have a horse on the race here i'm not i'm not uh... republican or democrat but which side you think
Starting point is 00:14:53 donates more to charity republicans are democrats conservative i would say we do yeah but they do but they don't people uh... consistently think of conservatives of being people who want to be rich, don't want to pay taxes, don't want to help poor people, want to keep all their money, but they actually donate more to charities. And I think that speaks more volumes than the rhetoric, you know what I mean? Now, where did you get that statistic? Because you know, you're going to get roasted for that from all of our left.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Oh, no, it's a real statistic. Now, they come up with reasons why, and they'll say things like, other trying to pay less in taxes, which okay, whatever. Or, you know, they donate more to church, which okay, again, whatever. But it is a truth. I think it has more to do with, not that you're a Republican or Democrat,
Starting point is 00:15:37 I think it has more to do with that. There's a higher percentage of people who claim to be religious on the right, and religious people, many religions make it a part of their practice to donate to charity and stuff like that. So I think if they actually did a different study and said who donates the most of charity, people who are who claim to be religious versus people who don't, then you would see that religious people donate the most of the year.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Who has the best memes? That's exactly what matters. You know what I mean? Dude, and I've also been getting a lot of people asking me about old man's strength, which I think is hilarious. It's a real thing, bro. Yeah, we've been talking about that very real thing. Yeah, a bunch of episodes ago, we talked about that, like, man.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Like, I remember shaking this old guy's hand and just like, he was just crushed my hand. Like I'm like and did not even, I wouldn't even have been able to tell by his physique that he had that kind of like grip strength. Yeah, yeah. No, it's the theory goes that when you try to tussle with an old guy that you may not think they're nearly as strong as you or as agile as you because you're young, which is oftentimes true, but when you wrestle with them or fuck with them or whatever, or try to lift something that isn't a traditional weight, that the old guy is just stronger. And there's definitely some truth to this.
Starting point is 00:17:03 And it has more to do it less to do with the fact that they're stronger, more to do with the fact that they've just been in their body for a long long. They know their body, they know how everything is gonna respond and how much, you know, where the reserves lie and the thresholds and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, if you watch, there's a documentary
Starting point is 00:17:20 and I don't know if it's on Netflix, I'm pretty sure it's on Amazon called Nuckle. Did you watch that yet? I have. I just started. Yeah. Did you watch the whole thing? Not the whole thing. I just started.
Starting point is 00:17:30 I was like, yes, I'm in. But because like, come on, dude, I can't watch that when Courtney's like, you know, like she's not really a big fan of me. No, it's great. So it follows. It's pretty brutal. It follows Irish, what they call them travelers,
Starting point is 00:17:43 which is, you know, like basically these are people who they would call gypsies, right? Where they live in these encampments and they travel. Like Snatch. Yeah, and they, the way that they settle a lot of their, their, their problems with each other with different families is they fight. They, they fistfight with their bare, bare knuckles. Isn't, isn't that like that part that in Snatch, and they take it from Mike, that's real.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's a lot of rules and honor in it. So it's not like just a free-for-all fight with each other. They actually are like, they'll break them up if someone has an illegal hold or whatever. You have to have a certain level of honor and it's just how they handle their problems. But what was interesting in that
Starting point is 00:18:20 and the reason why I'm talking about it is at the end, this guy who's like the Irish traveler champion, I forgot what his name was, this kind of, he's like, it looks like he's in his maybe 40s, but he's been doing it for a long time, undefeated. There's this young, up and coming muscular boxer who challenges him from the other family. So they have this fight and the way they go is they just fight. There's no, there's no time limits or whatever. If they, there are rules, but they, they, it's bare knuckle, there's no kicking, no biting, no eye gouging, that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:47 But they keep going until someone gives up or until the crowd is like, the guys had enough. And they're going and the young guy is obviously faster and obviously stronger and he's got a boxing background. But as, and they fight for, I don't know how long they fight. But the old guy can take a hit. The old guy can take a hit. He's got harder hands. Cause eventually the young guy you could tell his hands
Starting point is 00:19:07 can't take it anymore. So then the old guy just starts. He gets shit. He's like, oh yeah, I keep throwing them. You're gonna get like exhausted. And he beats him at the end. I'm like, that's a little bit. I know.
Starting point is 00:19:17 It's wisdom. Yeah, it's pretty funny. Anyway, dude. That's cool. Dude, do you guys get the messages from people showing you the, what's Carl Jr. is doing? Yes, the CBD burger. Man, dude, it's just gonna be in everything or what?
Starting point is 00:19:31 It's hilarious. It's a bubble, dude. We called it out. What are they putting it in a burger form? Why? Yeah, why? Because it's cool, I guess. It's the cool thing.
Starting point is 00:19:43 It's like ad CBD. To everything, just ad CBD. Yeah, they're putting it in a burger. Now they're doing it now in one location in Colorado, because it's legal there to use cannabis type products or whatever. But they did say that they're testing it out to see if it's got market viability, and if they could put it in burgers.
Starting point is 00:20:03 It's an interesting strategy. I think that Jack in the box did this really well years ago. You know, there was rumors to the strategy of the open all night long drive through was directly to market to the stoner community and the people that are party in late night. And obviously it did incredibly well for Jack and the Buffs.
Starting point is 00:20:26 I remember all through high school, that was the place to go. It was the only place that we could go to a party all night long, come out at two, three o'clock in the morning and you can still go get, you know, 12 tacos for less than five bucks, right? So I think that that was brilliant. And so maybe the strategy from Carl's is we're just trying to appeal to a population of people that are pro cannabis. Yeah, but CBD isn't get you high. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's a, if you're an advocate for marijuana, you have been for 10 years plus
Starting point is 00:20:58 of your life and the first fast food chain to get on the bandwagon and be pro cannabis. I'm going to go support. I wanted to choose burger today anyways and I was thinking about going to McDonald's, but now I don't know if stoners really care. You know what I'm saying? I don't think they care. Like we're going to be an activist like they just smoke weed CBD and a bird. First of all, what are you going to get from it? They don't care enough to go make a a fucking hard change in their life, but they care enough to like I'm getting a stone and I'm gonna go eat a burger and fries and now I'm gonna go do Carl's Jr. because it's CBD in it.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Well, yeah, I think it's enough to try once. This is my point. I don't think it has any state. What were the staying power, babe? What are you gonna get from it? How much CBD's in there? Are they gonna notice any benefits? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Plus people, look, CBD has some potential, some really good potential applications for treating certain things and some potential health applications. People getting a Carl's Jr. burger doesn't seem like they care about that kind of stuff. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Is it their ploy to kind of try to get people like that art, don't make healthy decisions to look into like things like that, but it's like, what is it gonna do for them? At this point to me, it's like totally wandering it down and now people are gonna start looking at it is like, oh, this is another magic cure all, everything that doesn't really work.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I think what they're finding, what companies are finding is if they say CBD, they get a larger flood of people. I think, yeah. That's what they're finding. I think that for a long time, there was a stigma around marijuana. And you didn't wanna be associated with it, and you were a stoner, and you were a loser,
Starting point is 00:22:30 if you were affiliated with it. And it is completely, it's like the post I did, probably, I don't know, this was like six months ago, I did this post where I'm holding a giant top of a marijuana plant in its OG Kush. And I think the caption I put was like before it was cool. And the point of that post was exactly this is that it's becoming cool. Now, of course, everybody is going from, oh, I don't want to be associated with it, having a bag stigma to, hey hey marijuana has lots of positive health benefits
Starting point is 00:23:08 So I think it's more of a play of we're gonna be the first Fast food restaurant that's going to openly say that we support This we're behind it. I think it's more of that play than it is. Oh, we're trying to cater to healthy people Oh, we're trying to help people by infusing CBD at the end of the day. I think it's more of that. It's like, who, remember when all the companies too did the, I think Southwest did this, where their big companies did the whole inclusive thing where they changed all their logo to, I think like the rainbow color colors and so that, because that's the movement
Starting point is 00:23:44 that's the meat too, when the meat too stuff is all going on. They all all these companies fall behind it I think it's more like that. I think because marijuana is making such a hard push in the United States right now And it's going from being there's just spreading the word of it. Yeah, so I think you're there trying to be the first Fast food restaurant to to say hey, we're it's just if you have a CBD burger You're probably gonna get a lot of people like, oh my God, I wanna try CBD and have a burger. Let's go give it a shot. There's no staying power there is my point.
Starting point is 00:24:11 And I think what we're gonna see is that the interest and use in terms of the market of CBD is going to spike. And then it's gonna drop very quickly. I think it's gonna drop very quickly for a few different reasons. One, they're putting a little tiny bit of CBD and stuff because CBD is expensive. So people aren't gonna notice anything.
Starting point is 00:24:29 So that's one, so people are like, I tried CBD and do anything for me. Two, it's being used in ways that there's really no application like CBD makeup. Okay, is it good makeup though? If it's not good makeup, I'm not gonna give a shit. And after trying it for the novelty, I'm not gonna go back to using it for example,
Starting point is 00:24:44 or CBD socks or CBD CBD, you know, literally you're finding and everything. So you're gonna see this bubble pop soon, or it's gonna go from cool to nobody gives a shit, which I think is kind of crappy, because there are real applications for CBD if you use the right dose and for the right things. And this kind of stuff, and it's funny,
Starting point is 00:25:04 because I remember we first met, when we first met before MindPump, when we sat in your living room at him, this is, this was one of the topics. Yeah, we called this. We talked about how CBD is going to be everywhere and should we, you know, look into it and potentially, you know, put it in supplements. If it's applicable and we all decided no because there wasn't really any Good applications that we could think of But we knew it was gonna happen. What you're gonna see and this this reminds me of another article that I wanted to bring up
Starting point is 00:25:32 So there was a big lawsuit on bang. I don't know if you guys saw that But with rock star, right? Okay, so there was that one that was monster monster and bang got into so crazy I'll show you guys the image Doug could probably pull this up so Monster monster created a a line called rain R.E.I.G. in so monster created rain Doug R.E.I.G. and and it literally they use the color schemes the flavoring everything like bang So that was like their response to bang bang comes into the into the market makes a big splash Monsters like fuck you come out with an Align that align that like totally matches bang with creatine is yeah everything everything like it's spot on to them to the point
Starting point is 00:26:13 Where they're in a lost they're in a trademark lawsuit so even though they're not using the same name There's enough of it that looks similar to Bangs there it is right there check that out look how look. Oh, man. Is that a learning in Bay? Is that hilarious or what? So that's the lawsuit your time on Justin now the lawsuit that I'm talking about is bang It was in a lawsuit for their base basically pixie dusting all the stuff They're saying like branch chino man amino acids the creatine that everyone's buying you know, yeah, so That says that and I'll read it, says,
Starting point is 00:26:45 defendant knows that the consumers are willing to pay more for sports and energy drinks that contain super, quote, creatine, ultra, COQ10, and branch channel amino acids as opposed to those that do not. In part, because the listed ingredients are valuable and desired to these consumers, the quality is higher and consumers believe they are paying costs associated with the higher quality potent, super and ultra ingredients. The bank energy drink has a class action lawsuit seeks to represent a nationwide class consumers who purchase bank in the United States. The plaintiffs also seek to represent subclasses from California, yada, yada, yada. They go on to
Starting point is 00:27:19 talk about why, and it's because the dosage that they're claiming saying that's super ultra, it's a lot, it's not even enough to make a difference. That's got crazy. So funny that you bring up bangs specifically. I was gonna tell you guys, so when I drive to work, I usually pick up a water and then there's like a pizza nitro can that's at this gas station.
Starting point is 00:27:44 So usually I'll fill up with gas and then I'll get like my morning stuff there. And like I run into the same like clerk that's always there. And she's this older lady that like we have minimal exchanges with. Like I'm always like, I don't want, you know, have a long conversation. But we end up like having to like, it's been so many times. Just to fuck me eyes, right? Yeah. Just that. And so I'm like, I'm like it's been so many times a year. Just to fuck me eyes, right? Yeah, yeah, just that.
Starting point is 00:28:05 And so I'm like, I'm like looking around, they don't have it. And so I grabbed a bang instead and I grabbed that. I was just gonna try it. And so I'm going to pay for it and all this. And she always gives me like this one liner kind of like, whatever. And she's just like, it's hump day.
Starting point is 00:28:21 And I was like, yeah, don't you see my drink? Yeah. And then I was just like, yeah, you're definitely seeing it's hump day. And I was like, yeah, don't you see my drink? Yeah. And then I was just like, you're definitely sitting next to me. I was like, yeah, I should, she like didn't even laugh or anything. And I was like, oh no, I thought I was on mine pump. You're like, I could get away with it. You're like, I put, and so that was awkward.
Starting point is 00:28:39 You're like, I got a bang, do you want a bang? Yeah. You want a bang? Yeah. It's a hump day. Oh, you want a bang? Yeah. It's a pump day. You look back. Get it?
Starting point is 00:28:48 So I think this is what we're going to see with a lot of it. I sent you guys the picture of all the beauty products and stuff that are now getting CBD infused. What is going to happen is a big enough company is said company like, you know, bang is going to be, oh, CBD infused. And then finally, somebody is going to test it and find out that it's like nothing. And then you're starting to see that. That's what I think.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Like so when you say about a bubble, I don't know if there's going to be a bubble at burst. I think it's going to become more and more popular. If you were to ask me, Adam, will CBD more popular five years from now than yesterday? I'd say it's going to be way more popular, way more prevalent in our, in our space. Who knows how long it'll take to bubble. Yeah. So I don't think it's going to be a more popular, way more prevalent in our space. Who knows how long it'll take to bubble bubble bubble bubble. Yeah, so I don't think it's gonna be a bubble burst, but I think what will happen is a lot of people that are piggybacking off of the fame of it right now
Starting point is 00:29:33 and the trendiness of it right now are gonna get busted when you start finding out that the dosage is bullshit. So this is what I think is happening in our space. This is why it was so important that we partnered with a company like Ned that we vetted very well before we did anything, we met with the CEOs, we checked everything that we possibly could and looked into them before we'd even consider working with them because of this exact fear that I know how loosely that industry is ran and
Starting point is 00:30:01 there's just not a lot of regulation there yet. So really easily can somebody, you know, water down something and say it CBD and say it's 1500 milligrams, nobody's fucking checking that shit right now. It's all on the, it's all on the producer. The consumers are still, you know, they're still ignorant about what an effective dose is and what it feels like and what it's supposed to do. So consumers have no idea. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:23 The quality is the only thing that's going to have staying power. Yeah, exactly. That's why we're always looking for that. Any new market starts out like that. It starts out with a bunch of players and then the ones that stick around are the other ones that are good and the shitty ones fall by the wayside. But in the meantime, you're going to try a lot of shitty products. This is what's going to end up happening. Right. And speaking of trends, the new trend that's happening with social media is this, and I read an article by Vice written on this, that online influencers are all about being, quote unquote, authentic
Starting point is 00:30:54 now. Now you had the whole, you know, the whole blowback with the fire festival, and you're now getting blowback with influencers, you know, bullshitting on their stuff and using Photoshop and all that stuff. We've seen that in our space. Then now the big thing is to look as authentic as possible. So it's funny to me that, yeah, it's funny to me because you can't fake authenticity, but that's exactly
Starting point is 00:31:20 what we're gonna see. We're gonna see a lot of people fake being authentic. Oh yeah. Can you guys guess what you think that's gonna look like? Well, I mean, it already kind of started with the whole, like, hashtag no filter, or like, you know, the, like, where they're, where they're, my guts relax.
Starting point is 00:31:33 No, they're not flexing, you know. I told you once, I told you on the podcast that I don't remember somebody else doing that. There's a lot of people that I, you're like one of the first call out that's attached to us now that do that and it's super common. But when I was first talking about that shit, it was still beast mode time. It was still cool to show you pumped in a perfect lighting. And that was like that was the formula. And I was coming out in my bathroom with shitty lighting and first thing in the morning and no pump and showing you what I look like, what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:32:07 So you could see real change day over day. And it was probably a year or two later where I started to see more and more people in our space start to do that. And I'm just like, now some people, maybe it's coming from a good place and it's true. And then maybe they didn't know, or they didn't see me and then they went and did it,
Starting point is 00:32:27 they did it on their own because they felt the same thing that we felt maybe. But I do see a lot of people now, again, that are riding trends that are like, okay, so we're now in a place where we don't lie about our shit. Now we tell it straight up. And so you're gonna see more and more people. And in the day, I mean, I don't hate,
Starting point is 00:32:43 like that's why I haven't said. I like the move right now. Right, right. So I mean, that's how I feel about that. Like I don't rag about it because, you know, it's if I whether I started it or not in that in our space, fucking more people doing it, that's positive. That's part of why we all want right. So if more people are doing it, you know, hopefully most of them are doing it for the real authentic reasons. And then they're trying to do good in the space. Like I'm all for it, you know, so I hope we see more of it. But it definitely was not, uh, that many people doing it just four or five years ago when we first got on Instagram and the podcast and it's becoming more popular.
Starting point is 00:33:19 It just is interesting. You meet people that you see in media and social media in particular. And then you know, we get a chance to meet people in person and you meet them in person and they're not at all like the persona that they present and you think to yourself like, wow, that is so. Yeah. It's so fake. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:33:36 How can you live, like, I don't know, like I just, I've always thought of that. And I know that's been a formula forever as like presenting yourself as like even, it's like a character, you know, and like I know a lot of people in the entertainment business like you know, struggle with that. Like, fake it to make it.
Starting point is 00:33:52 They even create new names for themselves because they think it's more marketable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just, it seems like it would just take too much energy. Yeah. To be too different people. That's how I feel. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:02 It would just take too much energy. And the way I look at it is I look at it long term. I think to myself like, okay, how am I going to be able to do this forever? There's no way I'll be able to do it forever if I'm two different people. There's absolutely no way. At some point I'll slip up too. That's the other thing. Imagine walking around with the fear knowing that you may get found out by some fan or someone who gets you on their iPhone that you're just not real. A lot of people just have a misconception that people want that better version of you.
Starting point is 00:34:29 And so they feed into that idea where in fact they would probably, you know, like, praise you for like being more real. Yeah. It makes you bulletproof in my opinion being truly authentic makes you bulletproof. Scary though. Scary when it is scary. It's scary when you're like, as if people don't like you. It's the real you.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Yeah, yeah. That's why I think it's scary for a lot of people. I mean, we, everybody battles with their insecurities and, you know, we, we now live in this Instagram world where we put a lot of ourselves out there and, you know, who wants to lead with your worst foot. I mean, it's just like the first, your time and your on a date.
Starting point is 00:35:04 It's not like you're like the first time. Like, oh, so I have this one bad habit where I smoke cigarettes on these times. And oh, I always, I leave the toilet seat up a lot. It's weird rash. Right, exactly. You don't come out clean with it. You just don't really do that.
Starting point is 00:35:16 What you do is you say you hype yourself up to the other person and you're trying, and so I think that social media is just a microcosm of that we have, it's just exaggerated to the 10th degree. Super exaggerated. Yeah, so we're best angry. But it's becoming trendy. So it's, to me, I'm interested to see what people do
Starting point is 00:35:36 to try to appear more authentic besides actually being more authentic. You know what I'm saying? Because that's what I think is gonna happen. You're gonna see people posting certain types of pictures more and certain types of things more, maybe more, you know, just to show that they're more authentic. That's the part that I can't wait to.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I can't wait to. I can't wait to. I can't wait to talk to a popular until somebody who's like authentically being themselves, but they're an asshole. You know, they're like saying horrible shit. Like what's me? Yeah, yeah, we'll stop.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Yeah, that doesn't mean, it doesn't mean, yeah, anybody will be. Thanks for being real, but you're an asshole. Speaking of media, did you guys hear about Rogan and how, are you guys know who media matters is? No, no, no. It's this nonprofit organization whose goal it is to, basically to reveal or to call out the false information
Starting point is 00:36:22 from the conservative media. So there are a liberal nonprofit group design, whose goal is to call out what they consider bullshit and stuff in conservative media, whatever, no problem with that, that's cool. But they're going after, they weren't going after Logan. They're going after Logan from that perspective. They're going after Logan because they're saying that 90%,
Starting point is 00:36:42 and this is what they're going after him for, which is of all the things you can go after Rogan for, this is the dumbest thing you could possibly pick. They're going after him because they're saying that he's such a big show, he's got such a big influence, but 90% of his guests have been male and he needs to have more female guests and so they're trying to hammer him for it,
Starting point is 00:36:59 but it looks like it's back firing. Lots of people, yeah. I've listened to a show a lot, and he's had a lot of female guests. He's definitely had more male guests, but he does, he's MMA in comedy too. I mean, at the end of the day, it's impossible to not. It's, unless you have a perfect even split,
Starting point is 00:37:17 you're always gonna have one more of the show that you always say, all you have to have is one more to be a perfect even split, like ever. Plus it's his going with his interest. Plus it's his show. We have this really powerful opportunity in this country to just not just to to now not listen and not give them money.
Starting point is 00:37:36 That's your protest. So if like your mad like Rogan doesn't do what you want, then don't listen. That's it. But this kind of stuff is cracks me up that they're going after him for not having as many women on a show as he has men. It's his show and his audience, his popularity will reflect if he's doing a good job or not. And he's a very popular podcaster. And I think he's extremely balanced. Maybe not in terms of gender, but if you listen to the
Starting point is 00:38:02 guests he has on the show, he has them from all kinds of the spices. What's that term that you use? Is it where they're just blowing smoke and do you think that this is really the opinions of people or are they just trying to? What's that? Well, this was actually from... What's that called? What are the matters themselves?
Starting point is 00:38:19 I don't know what you're referring to. Yeah, I think you've referenced it before, where our our forum has talked about it too before, is like, we're like, they'll bring up some ridiculous to me. Yeah, yeah. The other side looks stupid. Yeah, yeah. But it's not really the opinions of anybody. It's one person.
Starting point is 00:38:34 But most people don't care. Yeah, it's like an alarmist type of post where you're just trying to get attention but like get people like yourself to talk about it and be like the truth. Right, to get people to go like, oh my God, I can't believe someone would think this about Rogan when in reality nobody really thinks that.
Starting point is 00:38:47 It's one asshole who wrote it and has gotten a bunch of attention. Right, right. No, no, this is, no, this is medium matters themselves. They are the ones putting this out. They are, again, a relatively influential nonprofit organization. They're the ones that are putting this out. So it isn't just an individual tweet
Starting point is 00:39:03 from someone that's making the rounds. It's an organization saying, hey, and I believe they wrote him a letter. Like, hey, you need to, you know, you need to remedy this or whatever, which is insane. And if you go in the comments, so I read the article that was done by Media Matters. And if you look in the comments, they got blasted.
Starting point is 00:39:20 And I'm sure it was a bunch of Rogan fans that went on there that just roasted them for. Yeah, hard to fuck with somebody who's got like Oprah power, dude. Big time. Yeah, I mean, I would think that almost anybody tries to fuck with them, is going to blow up on his face. Yeah, you need to have a good case. And there's certain things you could definitely go after Rogan for,
Starting point is 00:39:35 but this is a silly thing to go after him for enough. You're trying to go after the guy. He's kind of bulletproof, man. I mean, if you listen to him, he's pretty straight forward with his views and things that he likes. It's like, and he's obviously got millions of people behind him. Like, good luck. Yeah. How big is this?
Starting point is 00:39:50 Don't they say his show gets more downloads or views or whatever? And seeing any combined. Then all, yeah, then all the news, what network's going on? Well, even the late night shows, like, you know, how that used to be the majority of views were, you know, your David Letterman's and Jay Lennos and, you know, and he just like all those combined is now getting more views and listens. Crush on him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Another thing, this is kind of cool. So, they did the first, you know, this is insane, by the way, breakthrough. The first 3D printed heart and they used, they used cells from the man that they printed it for. Wow. So they were able to use from the man that they printed it for. Wow. So they were able to use stem cells. And they're here, everybody. And they used his own body to 3D print him a heart. That worked?
Starting point is 00:40:35 I should read more, I think so. I think that's the case. I think that's crazy. No, I think that's it. How insane is that? So they just took from his own cells and like are these like stem cells that you can mold and I believe so. How crazy is this?
Starting point is 00:40:50 That's insane. Yeah, I mean, and you know, at some point they'll be able to do more. I'm so dumb when I hear stuff. That's like, I'm just repeating science fiction like ideas that I've seen on a movie. I hear that and I just go like, how is that possible? All right, so here it is, read this.
Starting point is 00:41:05 So it says, researchers at Tel Aviv University have successfully printed the world's first 3D heart using a patient's own cells and biological materials to completely match the immunological cellular, biochemical and anatomical properties of the patient. Until now, researchers have only been able to 3D print simple tissues lacking blood vessels. And then this is from one of their statements that says,
Starting point is 00:41:30 the heart, this heart is made from human cells and patient-specific biological materials. In our process, these materials serve as the bio-inx substances made of sugars and proteins that can be used for 3D printing of complex tissue models. How crazy is that? You know what, I'm going to be so mad if in 40 years we have figured this all out and
Starting point is 00:41:53 I could just, they're going to regenerate me to like 25-row me and I took it easy on myself for this long. I could have been doing all kinds of crazy drugs and jumping off buildings and doing weird shit if they were just gonna pee. Rolling stones are still going on tour. Right, they're gonna pee. They're gonna piece me together all back together in 40 years, man, I should have went harder.
Starting point is 00:42:12 With your own cells. You know? That's crazy. Yeah, there's no chance of rejection if it's your own cells. Yeah, imagine you lose like a hand or whatever and they'll just print it for you. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:42:22 That's brilliant. So what they said here, so the, okay, so the three heart is small. It wasn't normal size, but they'll just print it for you. That's what I'm saying. That's brilliant. So what they said here, so the, okay, so the 3D heart is small, it wasn't normal size, but they did say that later on what they're gonna be able to do is train these 3D printed hearts to act like human hearts in terms of their pumping ability and stuff like that. So right now the cells can contract,
Starting point is 00:42:40 but do not work together. So they still have some steps to take before. They can print you a heart and then do a heart transplant because dude organ transplants. I mean, that's a terrible position to be in, you know? If you need to keep your number of heart. I hear it's like incredibly hard to get up on the waiting list and get what you need in a Match and all that imagine it's just it's your own self right if every hospital could just reproduce you in organ and that's crazy and you literally just like a Lego, plug it in, and it works like your old Oregon,
Starting point is 00:43:09 except it's brand new. I was missing, you know? We're gonna be like X-Men in our lifetime. Now think about this. What do you guys wanna be? Huh? I'm gonna be Wolverine. Wolverine?
Starting point is 00:43:17 Yeah. I'm gonna be, who do I wanna be? I wanna be the colossus, please metal. Yeah, he has metal. It's weird. I don't, I'm not, I was, I like X-Men, I think they're cool, but it's not my favorite superheroes.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Who do you want to be? Of all the superheroes? It's getting big, Guy. Come on, bro. I have, yeah, don't make fun of my, don't make fun of my friend. Don't make fun of my friend. Yeah, you picked the coolest.
Starting point is 00:43:38 What a reason he's the coolest. He's the coolest. I like, if I, if I were gonna be a superhero Hulk, bro, I have all had all the comic books in I was a kid it was always always always best Hulk's good for you Hulk and then spider-man was out of the big fan of spider-man Yeah, go Iron Man, but he's not like he's not any super powers. It's all his brain. Yeah, plus I have a comic book We're I think we're whole back hands him and almost kills themselves like them. Yeah Iron Man can't wait can't keep up I like Iron Man, but yeah anyway, so so think about this. How?
Starting point is 00:44:04 Iron man can't keep up. I like iron man, but yeah anyway, so so think about this. How? I look at this. Thanks, thank you, Doug. Oh my god. I'm posting that. Please. Yes, please. 100% Doug, you had to where'd you Google real man love Jimmy Pigs? Oh my god. I wouldn't do that if I were you because it sounds a little homo erotic. You might find some pictures. Oh god. You're the only one who can't get away. I can get worth it. I can get away with saying stupid shit all the time. You can't. What do you mean? Yes, you're the only one who can't get away. I can get worth it. I can get away with saying stupid shit all the time You can't what what do you mean? Yes, you're always so you're so you're always so PC. I'm not so if I I can say shit That's like borderline wrong and bad and people give me I get forgive Well, we don't you don't what what am I saying that I like you just said I can't say that oh
Starting point is 00:44:38 No, I can't say that you can't go on I said you shouldn't go on there because you might see some photos You don't want oh I thought you're saying that I'm gonna get back Classic no I don't care about that. That's real man love gerbals. That's different. Oh, that's a whole different to different job game Yeah, how what if in the future think about this what if in the future a billionaire athlete or someone could literally be like hey, I want to double my cardio You know my cardio ability to get too hard can you Can you 3D print me a heart from my tissue but make it a fucking way better heart?
Starting point is 00:45:08 Like a turbo heart. Yeah, or can you 3D print me new hamstrings? You know, of course that's gonna be the new performance enhancement, right? Like steroids, schmaroids, dude. Damn, that's fucked up. Yeah. I want high performance parts.
Starting point is 00:45:20 That's gonna be crazy. Now I'm gonna be like a NASCAR at that point dude I wanted to tell you Justin thank you very much for introducing me to wolfmother. Oh yeah. Yeah you're welcome. A great band. Dude them and the sword. Oh it's kind of similar genre. They're sound it sounds so 70s and just so real and I've been working out to Wolfmother lately. Yeah, I love those guys. Yeah, that was like some of the, the few and far between like music and bands like rock bands that still had that old kind of feel to them and like, you know, had that, had that real cool like homage to, you know, like the old bands and stuff.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Yeah, like Zeppelin and Zeppelin. Are they like Grand Avan Fleet was another one? Are they like a little underground or are they pretty big and popular? No, yeah, no. People who know know, yeah. But it's definitely not a genre that's like super popular. Oh, love them. Been left into them.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Hey, what's up? What the doctors that are accused of trading pain pills for sex? Yeah, so I found an article on that which was interesting. And that was on like, Huffington Post, they just, they posted, yeah, they're trading like, no way.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Prescriptions. So they caught a bunch of doctors for that. So doctors like, hey, so you want some vikin' in or what? Yeah. Well, you know what I want. Let's call this an even general. Yeah, I don't even know how that went down. I totally lost the article, but they got busted.
Starting point is 00:46:44 They got busted, yeah. For, for like, I think it was five different states that they, they cracked down and, and traced back to like, who was providing them, uh, these pills. And they also found, yeah, that they were actually doing these like sexual trades, uh, for a lot of these changes. It always blows my mind when you hear something like that, that, like, spread across states. Like, is there like a doctor's convention where everyone's getting together? Is it kind of like ring or like a listen?
Starting point is 00:47:10 I know they've tightened up the reins on this whole prescription thing. But listen, you can get a serious blow job for that bike. Let's tell you what, like they're desperate. Yeah, it's really hard for them to trace it too. Like how do they do that?
Starting point is 00:47:21 And the more the tighter they regulate it, the more they'll probably get for their bike in it, because it's so hard to get, you know what I mean? Have you tried offering your doctor a blowjob? Cause that's an idea. Yeah, maybe it happens the other way around. That's probably more like it. Yeah, that's probably what it is.
Starting point is 00:47:32 It's like the people talking to each other. Yeah, the themes that are trying to get the opiate addiction, right? They're like, they've even convinced dentists. They convinced dentists to basically like remove a tooth just so they had a valid reason for a prescription. No way. Yeah. That's fucking... Like that, what a low. Yeah, that's real addiction.
Starting point is 00:47:50 This is evidence right here that just because you have a PhD or you're well-educated or you're successful... Yeah, because we have integrity. Doesn't mean you have integrity. And somebody fucking biggest sleazeballs in the world are the most educated, like, high up people that you'll find. Oh yeah, because they're making good money. I mean, that's easy thing to write off. Damn, 31 different doctors, Justin. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Yeah. Well, I went down. Eight nurse practitioners and seven other licensed medical professionals. What are the nurses doing? Oh yeah, what do I mean? Yeah. Interesting. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:48:48 That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I-D.com. And use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. BELL RINGS First question is from Terescott Fit. What's a good age for someone younger to start working out in the gym with a parent? Well, that's a very individual question. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:49:08 When they say working out, I'm assuming they're talking about lifting weights, using machines and stuff like that. In which case, I would say probably as young, as old as it takes for that kid to be able to be focused enough to, you know, kind of take it seriously. Okay, so that could be any age, it could be eight years old, ten years old. Now most gyms will not let a kid under the age of 12 in their doors without a parent. That being said, kids should be active as soon as they can move. I mean, from day one, have them play sports and have them
Starting point is 00:49:39 run and play and do those kinds of things. That's where they're going to get most of their exercise and activity. And that's how they're gonna get better with their mechanics. This is really, it really is an individualized thing because I've seen, I've seen all levels of this at all different ages. Like I've seen the kid, like I remember one of my trainers who worked for me, trained this little wrestler kid,
Starting point is 00:49:59 and man he must have been only like, I wanna say he was 11, 10 or 11 years old, and he was just, he was an athlete. I mean, I want to say he was 11, 10 or 11 years old and he was just, he was an athlete. I mean, you could see the way he moved and he was so into, and he was training with one of like my elite trainers that was Jack, badass, played college football like, and this, this kid just looked up to, to my trainer like crazy and just did anything he said. And it was so fun to watch
Starting point is 00:50:25 him train because he had beautiful mechanics and he wanted to get good and he was competitive about being better at his workout and just the right mindset for a kid that young if you're going to be lifting weights. Now then you and then I've seen the same thing. I seen it out of a 13 to 14 year old who, who is playing sports, and Mom and Dad wanted to get him in the gym and start lifting weights to help improve it. And the kid doesn't care. The kid's just not into it.
Starting point is 00:50:51 And I'm trying to get him to do exercises, and he's in the middle of a shoulder press or a pushup, he's looking up at the TV, or his form is terrible, his mechanics are all over the place like Just not present and he's not ready to focus on Perfecting his form and getting better at that and so then the workout ends up being geared more around play Yeah, and just keeping him moving so it really depends on the kid like if you've got a kid Who really wants like I would think that, and like your kids,
Starting point is 00:51:26 you know, your kids, see you guys working out. They get in there and they do some things that they're showing interest and exercise at a very young age. You can probably start a kid like that, a lot younger than the kid who's being told by his mom and dad that we need to go to the gym and get stronger.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Yeah, my goal with my kids and exercise is to make it such a good association that later on when they decide they really want to work out, that it's a good idea for them, that they have a good association with it, that they don't have bad memories, because what I don't want to do is I don't want to take my kids and force them.
Starting point is 00:52:03 No, it's time to work out. We're gonna go lift. No, you gotta do it. Might be mature to take my kids and force them. No, it's time to work out. We're going to go lift. No, you got to use a chore. Yeah, because we'll end up happening in my opinion, at least, and I'm not a child, you know, expert, but in my opinion, I think what would happen is it would develop a bad association with exercise. My dad used to make me do that. He used to force me.
Starting point is 00:52:20 I used to hate it. And then it could prevent them from developing a good relationship with exercise and doing it later on. This happened to me with judo. When I was a kid, my dad, so when my dad was younger, I mean, he grew up real poor and Sicily, but when he was started working, by the time he was, in his mid teens, he would make enough money
Starting point is 00:52:41 to where he could afford to pay to take judo lessons, and the rest of his money would go to his parents, afford to pay to take judo lessons and the rest of his money would go to his parents. He would do these judo lessons and my dad was exceptional at judo. He ranked nationally and just really good at it. So he always talk about it. He was always telling me as a kid how great judo is. When he finally found a school, I had no choice.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I'm going to judo, you're going to do this. Because he kind of made us do it, I had a little bit of a bad association with it and it made me not wanna do it. So by the time I was like 14, I told him I don't wanna do anymore and I stopped. Now later on, I went back to it as an adult in my 20s and I don't think I would have stopped
Starting point is 00:53:22 how'd I had a good associate. Well, look at the member of the kid, the Hercules. You remember him? I don't know. He have stopped how to had a good associate look at the member of the kid the Hercules Mm-hmm, you remember him. I don't know. He's you want to lift weights anymore. Yeah, if you look at him now like he's I mean he's doesn't look he's not fat in that shape But he's definitely not lifted weights. No, no, and I had a family member like that was soccer Same thing his dad hammered him into soccer. He stopped Yeah, look at the marine evitches Yeah, and like Todd and like what he went through, this dad being like so involved with all the eating
Starting point is 00:53:47 and the training and you know, trying to make him the best. And like it's just this overbearing parent that was not really letting the kid decide and make these decisions for themselves. And I think that's really the, you know, the point that we're trying to convey is that you know, you're trying to plan a seed, and you want that seed to grow.
Starting point is 00:54:06 And you're not, like, you can't really construct like you're not making this kid what they want. And that's what your kids, like, really teaching you is that like you can't like, you can't construct and mold this kid to be exactly what you want. Like you have to work with them. Now that being said, I think there's nothing wrong at all
Starting point is 00:54:25 with, you know, you have a 12 year old, and he or she is interested in lifting weights and you're heavy into exercise. Oh, great. And you want to bring them along and teach them. I think it's a great opportunity to bond as a parent. I think it's a great opportunity for you to start to lay the foundation for good mechanics. Now, you just have to model it. There's a small caveat
Starting point is 00:54:47 to that, which is it's it's probably better for them that you're doing more body weight, body weight stability, like type of body awareness type of exercise. Yeah, they just don't have the awareness to balance the dumbbell above their head. Right. So they opposed to you going and doing a bunch of machine exercises with them. Like that's probably, they're probably better off doing more body weight training than they are getting under a Smith. This is a common theme.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Like why we keep having these experts on the show, you know, strength conditioning coaches that are like world renowned. Like they're all, they've all like told us us that the best place to start is really body awareness and being able to then control their body on all different levels, all different directions to really understand their place and space and how to get your body to respond properly. That's the foundation of what you need to establish with kids. From there, you can really build a foundation you know going forward. Yeah and there's a lot of myths around kids and resistance training. I remember the myth that it'll stunt their growth, it'll damage their growth plates, it'll
Starting point is 00:55:53 false, false, false. Of course anybody could get hurt working out so form is always crucial whether it's a child or an adult, but the amount of weight that they would have to lift to damage their growth plates and stunt their growth is more weight than they would be able to lift. So the really, that risk is actually quite small, form of scrucial. But here's the thing, look, I've trained a lot of kids. It's my second favorite demographic was the trained kids. My first favorite was the advanced age people. So old people or young people, those were the two areas I used to enjoy doing.
Starting point is 00:56:23 And with kids, what I would do often times when they'd come to the gym My goal was for them to look forward to hanging out with Sal So I would bullshit with them. I would talk with them about video games We would talk about you know, you know They're friends the girl at school the boy at school the the Whatever and then I would every once while I'd inject exercise and little by little when I'm happening with these and then I would, every once in a while, I'd inject exercise. And little by little, when I'm happening with these kids that I would train, is they would develop this relationship with exercise where like, fuck, every time I go to the gym,
Starting point is 00:56:50 it's fucking fun. I get to talk to Sal and the other trainers. I'm getting high fives, and I would tease some of them. You know, I'd have these young guys that I trained that were like 13, 14, and when they would, you know, be doing curls, I'd yell curls for the girls across the gym, and they'd get embarrassed and laugh and we'd have a great time.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Sometimes we'd only do three exercises, other times they would push the and wanna do more, and we would do more. But my whole goal was like, I wanna get this kid to remember how fun it is to come and have that good. And I do, and like with my son, my son's 13, and I don't push him to workout.
Starting point is 00:57:22 I wait for him to tell me, and he'll tell me every once in a while, hey, can we do a workout? Absolutely, let's do it. And then when we're doing it, it's about, I'm telling him jokes that I don't normally tell him in front of his sister. We talk about things I don't normally talk about
Starting point is 00:57:34 around the family. So it kind of comes as like me and dad time where we get to do this cool stuff and oh, by the way, we're working out as well. What I'm hoping to do is develop that relationship with exercise where later on, he doesn't like, not wanna work out because my dad forced me, it's more like,
Starting point is 00:57:49 oh yeah, I have this good time when I work out. But here's the thing, any amount of exercise for a kid, so long as it's done properly, is gonna benefit them. Even machines, we talk about machines not probably not being appropriate for the most part, but better than nothing, and they're going to get some better. One of the biggest things that you're going to combat is just really like holding their
Starting point is 00:58:09 attention. And so there's ways that you can do that and be effective in that. And like there's drills, you can do hand-eye coordination drills, things where it forces them to be present in their fun. And so that you can make in like games and nice to do that a lot with, you know, certain like ball drills and certain field drills and things where they had to respond and react quickly to what I would say or not say and throw a ball, have them catch and made fun drills out of it, but at the
Starting point is 00:58:39 same time it was building their skill of to be able to focus when they needed to. Yeah, I remember, let's see, how old were you guys when you first, like, went into a legit jam where you actually first went in, maybe did a workout, a hung out? 16 or 17. 16. So I was, I want to say 14, 13 or 14, and what an experience, but I remember the locker room shocked the fuck out of me. I remember walking through there as a 14 year old. I'd never seen naked, grown adult men. you know, I mean it walking around I was like I'm never going there again
Starting point is 00:59:10 Make sure to go bathroom before I walked into the woman's room yesterday What yeah at the Warriors game? I didn't even tell you guys that sorry. You just reminded me that yeah, I did one of the I smoked weed out the parking lot before I came in Okay, all right, that's all make sense. I'm in Oakland, it's so fucking appropriate, I feel like. So we go inside and I'm dodging people. And it's one of those times where the hallway,
Starting point is 00:59:35 the entrance for the male and the female are both, right next to each other. And I just took a hard left in and, how quickly did you realize? Oh, I mean, once I stepped in and there was no urinals and there was like 20 women in there. I was like, oh, shit. I mean, I bolted right out, but the funny part is as I'm coming out, there was a woman trying to come in and she stopped like, oh, am I in the wrong plate? I'm like, no, it's me. It's our hominaclete.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Polaris. Next up is from the Bearded Five pod. Jim Quick and Hal Elrod both talked about morning routines, but their routines were quite different. For pod. Jim Quick and Hal Elrod both talked about morning routines, but their routines were quite different. For example, Jim Quick suggested keeping your eyes closed and remembering dreams. Hal Elrod said to put your phone across the room so you'd have to get up and turn off the alarm. Which do you subscribe to?
Starting point is 01:00:18 Now, I pick this question because I want, I've been doing like a morning routine and just so the audience knows like my morning routine looks nothing like Jim Quix or House. You just created your own. Right, and I think that's, this is the thing I don't like about these types of things. And I know the masses love this, we all love like,
Starting point is 01:00:42 give me direction, tell me the three steps to becoming a millionaire or tell me the three steps to becoming a millionaire. Tell me the five steps is to success. The exact formula please. Right. And I don't, I think the, and it's like certain things that we talk about with exercise. There's, there's certain truths that about like these systems or things that we do.
Starting point is 01:01:02 I think the biggest, the biggest thing that's helping me or that I'm getting is, when I get up two hours earlier than when I'm now getting up and now I wanna have to two hours before what I normally would. And what I'm finding that is happening is it's extremely quiet and peaceful in my house. It's still dark outside.
Starting point is 01:01:20 I'm having my cup of coffee. I'm reading right now at that time. It's such a great time for me to be completely present, quiet and focused on whatever that is, whether that be journaling, remembering your dreams, you know, fucking meditating, a little bit of exercise. Doesn't matter, getting up extra early when I would normally be sleeping in bed
Starting point is 01:01:42 and being by myself or it's quiet like that. That is the big bang for your buck right there. early when I would normally be sleeping in bed and being by myself or it's quiet like that. That is the big bang for your buck right there. That is where the secret sauce and all these fucking formulas is you would normally be fucking sleeping, not doing anything. And now I'm up an hour plus earlier and I'm by myself and it's quiet, it's peaceful. I have a very clear mind. There's not a bunch of distractions.
Starting point is 01:02:03 I haven't gone to work. I actually don't, I look at my phone but I don't look at text. I have a very clear mind. There's not a bunch of distractions. I haven't gone to work. I haven't, and I actually don't, I look at my phone, but I don't look at text. I don't look at social. I open up my newsletter. So I get my morning brew and my hustle. I read both those articles now, first thing in the morning. Now what I love about that,
Starting point is 01:02:19 and the motivation behind that, is that helps provide content for this show. I mean, part of our show is bringing current events events for you guys for us to discuss and talk about and so it's greatly improved What I bring to the table every morning because I've now scheduled this time that I don't miss where before it was kind of like Hit or miss like oh, I'll make sure when I get to the studio I'll pull up some articles and read so I have something to contribute to the conversation. Sometimes I did it, sometimes I didn't. Where now when I'm up two hours early,
Starting point is 01:02:50 not only do I have time to read all that, then I get to dive, sometimes there's an article, I'm like, whoa, I'm really interested, then I go deeper into the research and I start searching more about that topic or that company or stocks or whatever. And so it's just, it's making my job, me better at my job. And that over all the gratitude,
Starting point is 01:03:10 the affirmation writing, the journaling and shit that I'm doing, yes, those are all great things and positive. But the real take away, the real sauce in it, for me at least, and it's not getting cut up and who does what, how does what or Jim does what, it's what the fuck I do. Like that, that's most applicable to my life right now, my life, if I can make an improvement on my day, it is being better prepared for my show
Starting point is 01:03:35 that I have to record every day, that's something that that is now providing. Well, I have staying power if it reflects, like, you know, things that you normally would do, but you're improving upon that. So what the biggest takeaways I got from those rituals is the fact that I can wake up proactively, instead of reactively.
Starting point is 01:03:53 So instead of me waking up and reacting to a text or reacting to, you know, the alarm that's like kind of like shocking me into the world. Like I've taken those few things, even like with Sal mentioning that alarm that wakes you up gradually with light with a danger for me. Yes. Tell me that shit doesn't fucking make a change.
Starting point is 01:04:15 And they didn't bring that up, you know, but whatever. You know, it's like, they found ways that really work for them to find that peak state where they feel like they have control. Like, I have control now, I'm gonna conquer, I have this winning sort of mentality going into the rest of my day. You're driving your day versus your day.
Starting point is 01:04:35 You drive it. You're the guy that's in the driver's seat now versus being like, whoa, everybody's asking me over here and I gotta read this and, oh my God, what's happening over here? Like, you're figuring it out. Like, this is how I'm structured my day, I'm controlling it, and then like, I'm gonna be in this sort of state
Starting point is 01:04:52 and this attitude and I'm gonna roll with this. That's right. So with the alarm clock, crazy, right? I love it. I love it. I honestly feel like it's- You wake up and you don't wake up. I didn't realize-
Starting point is 01:05:02 I didn't realize you could wake up differently. Yeah, I used to wake up to alarm all my life, and now- I wake up. I didn't realize. I didn't realize you could wake up differently. You know, he's the wake up to alarm all my life. And now, I wake up like I'm waking up. Like a brace response. Was it how, was it how or a gym, I don't know if it was how or a gym whoever did the, who said the phone across the room. That is something that I have, I've done.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Cause it gets you up. Yeah, I've tried to avoid my phone for the first hour. I can't snooze, I can't snooze. And I actually, I put it in my bathroom next to where I brush my teeth. So the first thing I do now, my alarm goes up. I have to get all the way up walk around the bed You'll walk into the bathroom turn my alarm off I'm already up in front of my toothbrush. I brush my teeth and then I go downstairs
Starting point is 01:05:35 I make a cup of coffee and I'm sitting there and I start reading my newsletter and so That's been something that has been incredible and I don't want to stop that routine I'm gonna keep it going Sure, often times look it's like the benefits you get from exercise right the most part You're if you're just exercising your most of the way there in terms in terms of health and longevity and a lot of the benefits You get the fact that you do something the fact that you care about your health the fact that you're active That's a lot of the battle the fact that you're active, that's a lot of the battle. The fact that you have a morning routine is 90% of the benefits you're going to get from the morning routine, the fact that you wake up and take it seriously.
Starting point is 01:06:12 The fact that I wake up before, it's time for me to rush out of the house. I get to wake up, be quiet about it, know what I'm going to do for the rest of the day, and then you put your practices in there, whether they're gratitude or for me, I like to wake up, I like to wake up, I like to read, sometimes I'll do my workout, sometimes I'll do my sauna. I've been doing this for a long time now, and it's just, it's a very different way
Starting point is 01:06:34 to set up your day. It's like how you're setting up. If you wake up and you're constantly rushed, it tends to bleed over into the rest of your day, where you're just not ready. I like to be ready for the day. And that takes a couple hours for me and it takes for most people. That's right.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Next question is from Heinz Patricia. What are your thoughts on cryotherapy and ice baths for recovery? placebo or actually valuable? I thought it was the... Oh, maybe this was on my questions that I answered this exact question. And I fucking think cryo is awesome, is amazing. And if you can afford to do it, kudos, or more power to you.
Starting point is 01:07:14 But I think in South crack me up, I'm wrong. I think the research shows that most of the benefits that you get from cryo, you get back to like, you're getting the majority of the benefit. You're getting a majority of those benefits in an ice bath. You're actually getting more ice baths, yeah ice baths are more effective than cryo. They're just way more painful and way more difficult to administer in the sense that like I can walk into a cryo chamber and then a lot more preparation and resources.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Yeah dumping yourself in ice water, ooh, that's a tough one. If you don't have a setup, right? But I mean, I think that the benefits of the ice bath, I thought it was equal or a little less. You're saying you're claiming that the ice bath is. Because of the length of time and the fact that it's colder, it's not just colder, it permeates your body more.
Starting point is 01:08:01 But here's a thing, two things. First off, your body's ability to acclimate to extreme temperatures, pretend it's a muscle. So pretend like your ability to acclimate to heat and to cold is something that you can practice and develop. And this is true now, okay? This is something you can develop. So if you're constantly in 72 degree,
Starting point is 01:08:24 climate controlled environments, you start to lose that ability and so going and you know this like if you've ever lived anywhere that's really cold or really hot, you'll find that your body will. It's ability to to deal with that temperature improves like when I lived in Palm Springs, which is a desert, it gets hot as fuck in the summer. Like I would wake up and it would be 90 something degrees at 8 a.m. and by the time 3, 4 p.m. rolls around, it's 120 something. It got to the point where when I would come up back up to San Jose to visit my family, and it'd be 90 degrees up here, 85 degrees in my family back, oh my god, it's so hot, but like, it's not hot at all, I feel me, because I developed my body's ability to acclimate to heat had gotten developed. You hear this from people who are from freezing cold states
Starting point is 01:09:10 in the US, well, they'll come to California. I have friends who will visit from Wisconsin or from Chicago. It's that family in Chicago, in fact. And they'll come here, and it'll be 62 degrees outside. We're all wearing sweaters, and they're like, you know, t-shirt and shorts, and they're like, it's nice 62 degrees outside, we're all wearing sweaters, and they're like, you know, t-shirt and shorts, and they're like, it's nice and warm outside. Their body is ability to deal with the cold,
Starting point is 01:09:30 and that, like all muscles, you develop that, there's carryover to the rest of your body. Now, the science does show that cold reduces inflammation and will speed up recovery. Here's the problem. If you do it right after you work out, it also blunts the signal that you sent from the workout. That's gonna bring that up. Right, because it's that old thing. The inflammation that you've
Starting point is 01:09:51 caused within your workout is actually contributing towards the adaptation process. If you're in a state where I'm in a sport and I'm doing double days, in between that where I want to make sure that I lower my inflammation down just enough. So now I can perform again and put more demand on my body. That's where it makes most sense for me. Or like professional athletes. That's why you see this a lot with professional athletes.
Starting point is 01:10:15 I think this is where it's gotten really popular, which is you're not a professional athlete. You're just always like, like killing your body. Yeah, you're an NBA player, you're running back-to- back games or games with only a day apart. You're not trying to make major gains of building muscle.
Starting point is 01:10:30 You care more about, you know, the recover and perform again. And so therefore, you don't care that you're blunting the signal for you to adapt and grow and build more muscle. So for that person, it makes a lot of sense. Now for the average gym goer, it doesn't make a lot of sense to train real hard and go do cry or go do ice baths all the time afterwards.
Starting point is 01:10:48 You know what I think is, or for me personally, like that has blown me away, is when I started doing the ice baths or the cold showers and when I don't. So when we first started the podcast, I used to get sick all the time. No, you're right. All the time. All the time. When we got introduced to ice baths and we we started diving into the research and cry I was first coming on the scene.
Starting point is 01:11:09 I remember when we first started, we went over and tried the first one that came to the Bay Area and what I was most fascinated with was when I started training that and being consistent with it where I was training it on a regular basis, holy shit, I would never get sick. And still to this day, this is like four or five years later of getting into this, when I get sick, you can guarantee that I've been lazy on that. Whenever I'm lazy on training the hot cold contrast,
Starting point is 01:11:38 you know, the only times I've been susceptible since we've been on this podcast and I get sick. So if you hear me on this podcast, you can almost guarantee that for the last month before that, however, I started to lay off my hot cold contrast training. When I'm doing that, I fucking swear, I feel so resilient to cold.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Well, anytime you find a practice that's been around for a long time and has become a part of cultures, you can bet that there's some kind of a, you know, amazing benefit. So if you go to like Eastern European, like ice baths and cold therapy has been a part of Eastern European culture and tradition for a long time.
Starting point is 01:12:14 In fact, you can find videos on YouTube of children at recess being put in bathing suits. I'm talking to little kids, four years old, five years old, going out and jumping in the snow. And this is part of their, and there's the polar bear club. That's right, that's right. Yeah, this has been part of the practice
Starting point is 01:12:31 all over the world for a reason. It's interesting, and I was also trying to think more about this because I know when I did the Wim Hof technique and was hyper-oxygenated, and that was part of the process of trying to really get tap into the pair of sympathetic state. Because when you think of like jumping into ice, you're gonna like, I have to like be in the sympathetic
Starting point is 01:12:54 state to overcome all the stress. But really what made me help, like it helped me to then switch over like into like a different state where I felt like if I relax, I'm gonna do better. Like my body is, I'm gonna be able to withstand this really cold feeling a lot more efficiently and it really helped me then to access that
Starting point is 01:13:19 outside of having to jump into an ice bath. No, I think regular cold therapy is something everybody should do, whether it's just cold showers every day or ice bath or even cryo. Now, what I don't think you need to apply is immediately after your workout as a way to help you recover unless you're tip-toeing on the line of overtraining.
Starting point is 01:13:39 So if you're training so hard that you're like, okay, like my body, I over did it. It probably can't take it. Then it makes sense. But if you're just trying to build muscle and a lot of stuff. Right, let me do it before workouts. Now what did you know? Oh, probably from the boost of the dopamine and all of that.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Yeah, so he was, he when he first was getting it going and when I was just starting to use a lot, that makes a lot of sense. He's like, dude, use it before you workout. He's like, before you go in your workout, 30 minutes before go do cryo and then go do it left and boy, I had some of the best lifts ever doing that. That was awesome. It's for me, it's like a cup of coffee. If I do it in the morning before I come to work, I turn on and it fucking painful. You should now that you're going to 49er fit and they're hooking you up.
Starting point is 01:14:21 You should do the cryo before you do a lift. Of course, yeah. Oh no, for sure, next time I go there, I'm gonna go in there and try it out. No, I mean, you know, post workout, not that big of a deal, but I definitely think you should do it on a daily basis. And one thing you can do, you don't need a cold bath or anything like, literally there's studies that show
Starting point is 01:14:38 that a 20 to 30 second cold rinse every morning. So at the end of your shower, just put it to cold and let that shit soak you for 20 to 30 seconds a day. That's how I do it. That's it. You know, front and back or whatever. And they show studies will show a dramatic reduction in illness, inflammation. They've actually shown it to be a temporary treatment for mild depression. So people who feel kind of down or whatever, do the cold, they come out and they feel more up and awake and kind of happy.
Starting point is 01:15:10 They're showing that it increases emotional resilience, so people who do this tend to be able to handle more stressful situations across the board. And again, we talked about the cultures that have done this for a long time, Eastern European, I know in Japan, Japanese monks have been soaking themselves under freezing cold water falls for a long time, and it's been a part of their practice, so this definitely helps
Starting point is 01:15:33 benefits. Next question is from Shraids. What have your experiences been with meditation? What sort of benefits have you been seen in research or personal experience? What advice would you give people looking to add meditation to their lifestyle? This is a cool question because I don't know what day we're releasing Don DePonny, but we had a monk that we had on the show that it was a great guess, was a great interview, a lot of fun hanging out with him. And one of the things that stuck with me that he talks about in this episode is he talks about
Starting point is 01:16:10 how they spent the entire day preparing for meditation. And I thought that was really interesting because in our culture right now, it's all about, you know, becoming, you know, mindful and getting into meditation, it's almost becoming trendy now. We have all these apps, like Headspace, and all that have all these different types of meditation. And we talk a little bit about this. And everyone's trying to squeeze in, you know, meditation because all the science and the research that shows like a bandaid to the rest of their day. Right. It's like, there's exactly versus like, really trying to prepare rest of their day. Right. It's like there's exactly versus like really trying to prepare the mind for meditation.
Starting point is 01:16:48 And the thing that he said was, most people don't know how to focus. Therefore you can't meditate. You must first learn how to focus before you learn how to meditate. And trying to skip that process, I think is almost worthless for some people to just sit in a quiet room if you're distracted in your brains hopping all over the place, and you can't center yourself and focus on one thing. I think there's not a lot of value to what
Starting point is 01:17:20 people are trying to meditate like right now. It's all about being where you're at, being present and concentrating on where you're at, and those opportunities present themselves all the time. You don't have to go aside or go away and meditate. You know what's interesting about meditation, which I think find fascinating. Several studies now have been done on mindfulness and meditation in showing how it can influence weight loss. And what they find,
Starting point is 01:17:47 what many of these studies are showing is that, when they'll take two groups, both of them watching their food and take, both of them trying to lose weight, one of them also doing mindfulness practices, the mindfulness group will lose on average two to three times more body fat. Wow.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Because of the being more aware, now we know as trainers that 99% of the issue with food is all in the head. Right. And it's not just about counting macros as all and how your behaviors, so it makes perfect sense. It makes more sense to even more so today
Starting point is 01:18:17 because, you know, and I'm guilty of this myself. Like, you know, how many times do I pull my phone out and I'm like reading or I'm texting or I'm Instagramming at the same time that I'm shoveling food in my mouth. And how, how many times have I sat down and watched a movie and I have something in my lap and I'm just like shoveling food in my mouth and I know I'm not a fucking loan on this. Like, just being, I'm just putting practices in where you, you don't get on your in where you don't, get on your phone or you don't watch TV while you eat,
Starting point is 01:18:48 it's so much, it's actually harder to overeat. Well, it's interesting too. And I've heard this from multiple people who are really into like archery, for instance. Like, they say that it's such a meditative process because you literally can't think of anything else. Otherwise, you're going to shoot and it's never going to go in the direction you want it to go. You have to put all of your focus and center everything in one point. And so like the whole process,
Starting point is 01:19:16 it could take a long time. You have to get your breathing to be under control. Everything has to channel and direct into one point of focus. And I feel like that's, for me, that would be a good start. Like something like that where I have to really like, you know, maybe it's the environment, maybe it's like an activity, it's something that's like really, you know, guiding me into one focal point. And then from there, I can kind of learn the process of, okay, this is what it's gonna take for me to really channel that focus,
Starting point is 01:19:48 and then now apply this, like just sitting in a chair and thinking of thought. For me, my meditative practice has always been my workouts when I'm alone. When I work out alone, I'm not thinking of other things, I'm not thinking about what I'm doing tomorrow, what I just did. I'm not going over. I am very present in my workout.
Starting point is 01:20:10 I'm very aware of my body. I'm aware of how I feel. I'm aware of the weights. I'm aware of the gym. And that's one of the reasons why I love my workout so much. And why I go into my workouts workouts if I go into one stressed out I come out of it and the problem didn't go away whatever I stressed out about didn't go away But I come out of it with a much better
Starting point is 01:20:35 mentality and approach towards my issues now I that was the only way I don't I've ever learned how to be present I have a difficult time being present. I'm extremely distracted most of the time I say it's 80d and that kind of stuff and people know me. It's just something I struggle with my work out learned how to be present. I have a difficult time being present. I'm extremely distracted most of the time. I say it's 80D and that kind of stuff and people know me. It's just something I struggle with. My workouts I never struggle with that, but I applied it later on to one of the most mundane tasks of all times and that is washing dishes. This happened, this was when I was married, towards the end of my marriage, one of the issues that my, at the time my wife had with me was that I didn't contribute to a lot of the stuff around the house. So, I started to try and take it seriously,
Starting point is 01:21:07 and this is already when we knew that, it wasn't gonna work out, but I said, I know what, I'm gonna take some of the stuff seriously because, well, because I can't just look at the other person. And so, I started doing the dishes and doing stuff around the house, and I found that if I was very present, I actually enjoyed doing these tasks that are mundane,
Starting point is 01:21:24 and so I practiced with doing the dishes, feeling the water, watching the dish, washing it, not thinking about anything else but actually being where I'm at and doing what I'm doing, and it became a meditative practice. And that's how you can turn anything into meditation. So the advice I would give to anybody who's looking to add meditation to their lifestyle is different now than it used to be. What it used to be was, hey, spend five minutes in a room, belly breath, try to focus, close your eyes.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Now, I say, try to meditate doing something that you normally do throughout the day. If you make your bed every morning, be so present when you're making the bed. Watch what you're doing. Pay attention. Don't think about anything else. Be very present with every action that you're doing and everything that's in that room and that will be your meditative practice at first. Those opportunities present themselves all day every day. And the busier your life is, theoretically, the better you can get at meditating because you have more opportunities presented in front of you to practice this
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