Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1026: Bison Squat Bar Review, the Truth About the Food Pyramid (My Plate), Celebrity Transformations & MORE

Episode Date: May 8, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about tips and tricks to help reduce marijuana use, t...he bison squat bar, the good, bad and ugly of the United States' Food Pyramid (now My Plate), and their thoughts on celebrity transformations. Why people are interested in new information + how Seed stands out from the rest. (6:01) There is another new addition to the Di Stefano Household. Why you just can’t have ONE guinea pig. (10:27) How Santa Cruz has become the hub for ‘furries’. (12:30) New media starting to ‘cross pollinate’ into popular TV shows. (14:26) Adidas shares hit record high after profits beat expectations: The power of having a big star ‘rep’ your brand. (18:49) Are Trump's tariff ‘Tweets’ doing the markets a big favor or not? (21:20) Why everything PornHub touches erects to the stars. (25:40) The link to social media platforms and phone companies. (26:50) Adam gets a speeding ticket + reminiscing on old photos. (30:15) The maximum benefits of switching up your sets and rep ranges. (33:35) Justin getting a little ‘too involved’ in his coaching duties. (36:18) Drinking just one energy drink is enough to cause heart problems, study warns. Will the Government start to regulate this market to kids? (43:26) #Quah question #1 – What are some tips or tricks to help reduce the amount of weed I’m smoking? (48:34) #Quah question #2 – What are the uses for the bison squat bar? (1:01:29) #Quah question #3 – What do you think of the USA Food Pyramid? What’s good about it and wrong about it? (1:09:19) #Quah question #4 – What do you guys think about celebrity transformations? Inspiring or dangerous? (1:20:18) People Mentioned Jocko Willink (@jockowillink)  Instagram Tim Ferriss (@timferriss)  Instagram Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne)  Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned May Promotion: MAPS HIIT ½ off!! **Code “HIIT50” at checkout** Visit Seed for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Visit Ned for the special offer for Mind Pump Listeners! Mind Pump 1022: Raja Dhir- The Truth About Probiotics Billions on Showtime Adidas shares hit record high after profits beat expectations Trump's Tariff Tweets Do the Markets a Big Favor - Bloomberg Trump: The Art of the Deal – Book by Donald Trump and Tony Schwartz Economy added 263,000 jobs in April, unemployment falls to lowest level since 1969 Tumblr’s long, strange tumble from the top Facebook Bans Alex Jones, Louis Farrakhan And Other 'Dangerous' Individuals Consumption of caffeinated energy drinks rises in the United States Mind Pump Free Resources

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salta Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Hey guys, guess what? Well, it's mind pump time. Look, for the first 50 minutes, we just do our fun introductory conversation. After that, we get into the fitness talk. But here's what we talked about for the first 50 minutes. We mentioned the probiotic company seed. They actually
Starting point is 00:00:29 make a probiotic for women and for men. And believe it or not, the science says there is a difference. Now, we are working with this company. If you want to get a discount, here's what you do. Go to seed.com forwardsash-mindpump and use the code MindPump for 20% off your first month of the daily symbiotic. Then I talked about another new pet for me. I got another guinea pig to play with the other ones. Pretty cool. And the name, by the way, Millie Friedman.
Starting point is 00:00:56 So, people know what that means. I like that. Then we talked about the show Billions. I don't watch that show, but Adam and Justin and Doug all love it. Doug! And apparently, Jocco and Tim Ferris were on there. That's kind of cool. Yeah. Then we talked about Trump's tariffs. He did a tweet which caused the market to draw, but there was also some good economic news before that.
Starting point is 00:01:16 That's added again. Adam brought up Adidas and how they're crushing because they signed Beyonce. Who would have saw that coming? Then we talked about Tumblr and how their value is tumbling. Boom. And how? And how? Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Port hub, Port hub is gonna buy Tumblr or talking about it. And we'll see what happens. We talked about Facebook and censorship and liability. Adam got a speeding ticket, you crazy driver. We talked about my workout variation. You might want to hear that part if you're trying to change things up with your workout.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Just then talked about how he cheated at this weekend's little league game. Yikes. Damn it. And we talked about how drinking one energy drink may actually cause heart problems. You hear that lane? Monster, don't drink them.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Oh, before before we get into the fitness questions, I do want to remind everybody we are doing a live event May 10th at 6 p.m. in insanitas, California, there's like five or 10 tickets left. Hurry up and go to mindpumplive.com. It's this Friday. So get your tickets now. When they're sold out, they're done. We're not going to sell anymore. Yeah. All Friday. So get your tickets now when they're sold out. They're done. We're not going to sell anymore. Yeah. All right. So here's the fitness part of this episode. The first question, what are some tricks or tips this person can use to help reduce the amount of weed that they're smoking? So we give our strategies for reducing
Starting point is 00:02:41 cannabis consumption. One of those strategies was to employ full spectrum hemp extract in order to mitigate some of the side effects of reducing cannabis consumption. Now our favorite company for full spectrum hemp is Ned. Ned makes the best that we've ever found and they're verified by independent laboratory tests. If you go to helloned.com forward slash mine pump, you'll get 15% off your first purchase. The next question, what are the uses for the bison squat bar? We all give our input on that. Justin, what did the father bison say to his son as he was going off to college? Okay. What is it?
Starting point is 00:03:26 Bison. Wow. Next fitness question. Thank you. Is that off the cuff right there? Yeah, dude. Was that off the cuff really? Wow.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I hope I get that good. Yeah, you will. You're going to become a father. That doesn't puns. The next question was. Did you see all his likes that he got on you? That stupid thing he said on my Instagram? No, I didn't see that.
Starting point is 00:03:44 You said the dumb poop. I did that. Oh yeah. And he did make a camping pooping joke. And like 250 people like to bring washed all you guys. I'm on a roll. Then we answer the question of what we think about the current USA food pyramid or food plate.
Starting point is 00:04:02 I go off on a rant on what I think the government should be doing instead of what they're currently doing. And the last fitness question, we give our opinions on celebrity transformations. Are they good? Are they bad? Or are they just so inspiring? Stupid. Also, check this out.
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Starting point is 00:05:29 And for Facebook, we have four review winners. We have Dene, George O. Megan Parsons, Ronnie Cheyot, Felicia Murphy, all of you are winners. So then they might just read to iTunes at MindPumpMedia.com's and your shirt size, your shipping address, and include your Instagram handle. And we'll get that shirt right out to you guys. Do it guys. Champions. Hey, Matt, the Raja seed episode. Fire. Did so much better than what I would have ever anticipated.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Well, you know, it's, there's two reasons for it. I think, I knew it would do great. I thought it was gonna be too nerdy. No, really? No, no, no, no. I really enjoyed that. I knew people were gonna do that. I did too, but we're, we're a couple nerds too.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Well, I sure, I understand that. But it was always that. It was well received. Well, he's a, first off, the information, I think a lot of people are interested in. It's new information too. And yeah, people are interested in probiotic science because it's an emerging science.
Starting point is 00:06:32 It's impacting every other science related, every other scientific field, in fact, biology, psychology, they're looking at inflammation over the place. Oh, it's crazy. But he's also, remember, he was a, like champion debater. Remember, he got, he had scholarships for that's so he's just a good speaker. So it's a compelling. No, he's a great, he's a great, he's a great
Starting point is 00:06:54 community. Yeah. You know, I had a question for you though. So after that episode went up, I have quite a few of my old clients that still listen, or that listen to the show. And one of them was asking me about the difference between, because seed actually has a male and a female probiotic. And I actually didn't have the answer for her. Do you know what the major difference is between the two?
Starting point is 00:07:17 Yeah, so they have the leading researchers on probiotic science. In fact, one of the, I think, one of the guys, people that works with them was one of the people that coined the term. And coined the term, he, probiotics. And he was also on the board for the World Health Organization, right? Yeah, so they're on the leading edge.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And what they're finding with the current research is that there is a difference between female, human, and male, human microbiome in a few different ways. First, the gut microbiome, they're finding there are some differences. Then, of course, the female, and he talked about this on the episode, women... The vagina. Yeah, vaginal microbiota, excuse me, vaginal microbiomes are fascinating, quite unique, and the health of that really helps in terms of reflex hormone health that helps with pregnancy or ability to get pregnant, your ability
Starting point is 00:08:13 to prevent certain types of infections, disorders, whatever. So there is a clear difference between men and women, and they are at the point where they can actually determine if they get a sample, they can generally say where it came from and if it's a male or female. So it only makes sense that you would, to more individualize these probiotics, make a whole segment for women. So it's a big one for men.
Starting point is 00:08:37 So is it like actually different bacteria strains that you're getting for the female? Different concentrations of strains. So yeah, very similar because we're all obviously the same species, but different in terms of percentages and who gets more of what. That makes way more sense than shreds, blue and pink for multi-videos.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Yeah, yeah. No, but like I said, they're the leading edge because it's an emerging science. It's one of those sciences that there's new stuff coming out all the time. And so you wanna be with the company that are the ones that are pioneering all this science because it's kind of a new,
Starting point is 00:09:13 because to be quite honest with probiotics generally, it's kind of like they're like, okay, we think this is good. Let's give it a shot. But with C, they're able to figure out what really works, how to really make these things effective for people. I thought the clip that Rachel shared on the Mind Plut Media page was really cool
Starting point is 00:09:31 about how people try and say that probiotics are, you know, gimmick or bullshit and like by definition, that can't be true. Did you read, did you read, did you? No, I didn't see that. Well, you didn't even listen to that. Yeah, no, he was just talking about that. The definition of a probiotic is that it has something
Starting point is 00:09:47 that you intake has to fundamentally change. Oh. So it's like the fact that you're to say that it's bunk or it doesn't work is so funny because but what's happening is a lot of companies are bastardizing it or taking on that little science and information and then running with it. That's what it's happened.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Some science will come out and people are interested and the marketers will take it and spin it in two different ways. So that now you have cereal with probiotics. And I saw probiotic water. I don't understand. And they don't have the right bacteria, the right concentrations, it's not surviving,
Starting point is 00:10:22 where it needs to survive. So it's just a waste. It's a lot of risk. Anyway, so how was you guys weekend? Did you guys watch Jessica's story? I saw that there may be another creature in your household. You know, the day's the thing.
Starting point is 00:10:36 You know, I didn't see what happened. Oh, yeah, she showed the new. Really? Like a second guinea pig, so it has a buddy or what? Yeah, we have. Starting a or what? Yeah, we have... Starting a little family. Yeah, we have, so, somebody, people have been sending me these articles
Starting point is 00:10:50 showing that, I think it's Sweden that makes it illegal to buy one guinea pig. You can't have just one. What? Yeah, because there's, there's really social creatures, and apparently they get real depressed, and it's just not good for them to be alone,
Starting point is 00:11:05 unless you're gonna play with them all the time. Nothing's worse than an emo guinea pig. You got close. Yeah. The one I had started growing her hair like in her face. It's got like face paint. She had an attitude. I was like, what's wrong?
Starting point is 00:11:17 She's like, you don't know me. Purple hair. I ran back in the house. I'm like, what the fuck? No, but she started having kind of, you're out. To my own thing. Behavior and I was feeling kind of bad
Starting point is 00:11:24 and then people were sending the articles making me feel worse. The guinea pig was having erotic behavior. Yeah, like it What does that look like she she was like she just didn't look happy, you know, it made like a different noise Yeah, just when I think you couldn't get any nerdy Yeah, yeah, you run out get another one. Yeah. Well, we got another one now their friends Yeah, they're little buddies they hide in the house together It's a good time. Chase after each other. I tell you, it's funny that there's a whole community
Starting point is 00:11:48 out there of people who are like super into, I get all these messages from people. Yeah, well, there's communities of people that dress up like rabbits and fuck each other too. There is, wow. I saw those this weekend too. You didn't? I did.
Starting point is 00:12:01 There was another furry. First of all, I figured out there's like two spots I always see them downtown Santa Cruz and like now I know where to avoid. You did it. Yeah, I did. There was another first of. First of all, I figured out there's like two spots I always see them downtown Santa Cruz and like now I know where to avoid. There's one that's like this restaurant that's right near the parking lot and then this other one was like this open,
Starting point is 00:12:14 this new restaurant area that just opened and so that's their two hangout spots. We drove by and saw them again. Well, you remember when we were up in, I don't, this was a long time ago when my pump first started. We were all up in Santa Cruz together and the one time we'd all been up there together
Starting point is 00:12:29 when we were at the coffee shop and... Oh, you guys saw him while we were there too? We were all together. Wait a minute, is that, Santa Cruz like a hub? Yeah, like they're there, dude. I can't, I captured it on my story one time and like highlighted it.
Starting point is 00:12:42 You'd see people like look at them and then their face was just like, ah, like just horrifying. So like all the time, like you'll go to these certain areas and they're just chilling. Yeah, they hang out. I don't know what they do later, but yeah, apparently they eat together
Starting point is 00:12:56 and they serve them like they'll... At a bowl? Yeah, dishes in a bowl. No, they don't. Water, shut your face. Yeah, that's probably two places that they do that. Dude, I was having a conversation yesterday and I was talking about how when I was a kid, so he figured the late 80s, early 90s, right? When I'd go out to dinner with my parents and somebody
Starting point is 00:13:15 would be walking around with like purple hair or like spiky hair, like they had the Mohawk. My dad would always shake his head like, oh, crazy kids look what they're doing, isn't that? Now, if somebody has colored hair, it's like, hey, you're a, you know, you must be super conservative because you don't have kids. Yeah, because you're not dressed like a furry. You're not dressed like a fox. Dude, and it's like, come on,
Starting point is 00:13:38 man, when am I supposed to tell my kids, like they're, and then they try and like interact with my kids, I walk by and like, dude, beat it. You know, like, I'm not, I don't trust anybody with a mask on and it's being all like, you know, like like interact with my kids. I walk by and like, dude, beat it. You know, like, I'm not, I don't trust anybody with a mask on and it's being all like, ew, like, to your kids. It's like the equivalent of,
Starting point is 00:13:50 so I hate. Yeah, do you want some candy? Yeah. Now, how do they interact with your kids? Do they act like the character? They like, they just like, they move all weird and they like come up to him like, hey, hey, and like all cartoony.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Dude, I just wanted to like kick him. I was gonna say to your dad and stick kick me. Oh yeah, yeah. My arms got up, you know, and I was like, creating space and then I was like, look, I was like, back off. Of course you're gonna do that. Can't even see, you can't even see the person
Starting point is 00:14:15 that's like, no, I don't know who that is. Is this some crazy pedophile that's like, we're in a suit? Yeah, hey, completely. No, you're not here. That's weird. You're gonna get beat up. Now I know you don't sell.
Starting point is 00:14:24 You don't watch the show. I know Doug does. And just, did you Yeah. No, you're not here. No, you're gonna get beat up. Now, I know you don't sell. You don't watch the show. I know Doug does. And just did you see last night? Well, last night is when I watched it, released on Saturday night, right? The new billions episode. And Jocco and Tim Ferris both were in it. I saw that, dude.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Crazy, yeah. Crazy, right? Now, was it just like a quick cameo? Yeah, it's just a cameo. I think Jocco had a couple lines. There's a few scenes though. I mean, they were like helping train these two employees from like the different capital firms or whatever.
Starting point is 00:14:52 And so they were like both on the training side of it. Is billions a HBO cinema? It's a showtime. Is it showtime? Yeah, not necessarily. It's like the new media space is starting to get into that whole You know popular space. It looks like they want to bring in that audience. Oh, I mean you mean podcasting story to move into there Yeah, I don't remember what movie it was that I watched that was a mainstream movie and the dude I think it was a guy
Starting point is 00:15:19 It was listening to Joe Rogan and was watching his right Well, I know you're talking about that. Yeah, I mean, obviously the creators are smart. I would take a guess at a good portion of people that listen to Tim Ferris and listen to Jocco are also the same type of people that like the show Billions. And so I think that was just a play on cross pollinating maybe, because it was really kind of weird. Tim Ferris, the part, Jocco like I understood, like the scene cuts and like Justin's saying they were training for a fight.
Starting point is 00:15:51 And you know, Axelrod gets up and like four o'clock in the morning, he wakes this guy up and standing next to him is Jocco. And it's like military training. Yeah, like Y'all Adam is running stuff. Yeah, so he's trying to hype him up. So there's a couple of lines in there and and he's playing he's playing his personality. Although they don't introduce him, but he's in there and he's playing that role.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Because you obviously know who he is. Right. Yeah. But then Tim Ferriss was there. It was kind of weird. Like, yeah, I was like, what was he doing? Why he would be there. He's like training him on some weird kettlebell snatch. Like, you know, that was it. Yeah. And and I don't know what and boxing. Like and I don't know what, and boxing, like I don't know what he would be doing there helping, he wasn't necessarily helping him box, but that was the whole thing they were training for. Is he known for any of that?
Starting point is 00:16:33 No, he swims. Well, he's done a lot, like he's got the trains from all kinds of different people, but I don't know. He stayed at a holiday. Yeah, he did. He has stayed at a holiday. Is it like a motivational? He's supposed to be like a informational
Starting point is 00:16:45 motivational. Who Tim? Yeah. Have ever sent him first. No, he, he, he, he always like tries to learn as much as possible. He turns like hyper to learn all these different skills and stuff. So he brings people on to teach him. Really? Yeah. Like a gym, he had this like famous gymnastics coach on the Tadamolus, you know, gymnastics style fitness training. And yeah. So he's just like, he's hungry to learn all these skills. Yeah, he does it about it. He does a good job of exactly that bringing bringing in somebody who is an expert or a professional in a arena in a field. And he he he learns himself and he shares that journey on his on his podcast. Yeah, now I mean,
Starting point is 00:17:20 look at his tools of tightness. There it is right there. There's a clip. See, I now Doug, I mean, look at his tools of Titan. There it is right there. There's a clip. See, I, now Doug, I was looking up this morning before I opened my mouth and talked about it that I didn't read anywhere where it said Tim Ferris. I did read where it talked about Jocco, but you guys both confirmed that you were confident that it was Tim Ferris also. So it'd be weird that all three of us thought that and it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Yeah, well, it says Tim Ferris down there. Oh, you found it. Yeah. Okay, cool. All right, good It's in there. It's in there. Oh, you found it. Yeah. Okay. Cool. All right. Good. Yeah. Thankfully. I know. I just, I mean, I've seen him before. And I know he's kind of short. So yeah, look how little he is.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Yeah. See what he's, he's, he's, he's, it's not a great shot of him right there. But that's him standing there. Well, is Jaco a big dude? No, I guess that's Tim Ferriss. Oh, I know that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Is he next to a big dude? Yeah. Jaco's a bigger guy. I mean, he looked bigger in the, in the clip when they, they had him and he was in a couple more clips. Jaco kind of looks like Tito Jaco's a bigger guy. I mean, he looked bigger in the clip when they had him. He was in a couple more clips. Jaco kind of looks like Tito or T's a little bit. He's just kind of like he's looking great episode though. I mean, so I'm watching that right now.
Starting point is 00:18:17 So when you saw that, we were like, oh shit, this is. Why I paused it. And I said something to Katrina. We were watching it last night together. And I was like, that was Tim Ferris and Jaco right there. And she's like, what? And I'm like to Katrina, we were watching it last night together. And I was like, that was Tim Ferris and Jocco right there. And she's like, what? And I'm like, yeah, I never wound it. I'm like, that's for sure Jocco.
Starting point is 00:18:31 And I'm like, I'm pretty sure that's Tim Ferris. And then in the morning time I got up and looked it up. And I couldn't find this article right here that Doug just found that where it talks about Tim Ferris. But I confirmed it was Jocco. It looks like it was both of them. Interesting. Space is growing, man. Starting to make ito. It looks like it was both of them. Interesting. Space is growing, man.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Starting to make it through. Yeah, talking about stuff that's growing right now, Adidas had like a record quarter last month, or last quarter, I think they increased by like 16% overseas. They had like 40% over profit. Like it was crazy. The numbers all from signing with Beyonce. You're kidding me.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Yeah. So that was gross growth or was that profit? Yeah, I mean, I took notes on the actual numbers if you wanna hear what. I don't know Beyonce signed with the Deedas. Yeah, she just did. So Deedas making quarter one online sales jumped 40%. China sales grew 16% and profits grew by 17%.
Starting point is 00:19:26 That's huge for a company like Adidas. No, big time. No, that was crazy. Well, yeah, they've always kind of had their hand in the hip hop community, though, right? With like run DMC start out with like all Adidas and then you had Yeezy like sign that. Well, this is just, this is the new model right now.
Starting point is 00:19:44 In fact, I was talking to my buddy and he's like, you know, been paying attention to what we're doing. He's like, man, you gotta get, you guys gotta get like a professional athlete to, you know, rep your shit. I'm like, you know, it's funny. We're in a different era now.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Like that when we were growing up, that's how you did it. Like you get this pro athlete. But. They not have nearly as much power as this. Yeah, they just, pro athletes just don't have as much power as like these mat. Now mind you, Beyonce's like, you know, she's transcendent all of that. She's super, super, uber famous.
Starting point is 00:20:11 But for the most part, like these influencers have just as much pool. And that's what Adidas did a really good job. I'd say, I don't know, it was right when they signed Kanye from that moment on that they went on this tear of just getting all these different influencers instead of dumping so much money into pro athletes. Like Nike's done forever, right? That's been a staple move for them is to swoop up
Starting point is 00:20:34 all the biggest names in basketball and football and whatever. And it's not that they're not, like it's not that Adidas doesn't have like the Messier and like some of these other big name athletes, but they're more focused on these like influencers and signing them, which you would have just known. Well, it makes sense because athletes are typically terrible
Starting point is 00:20:53 at that side of their business. Yeah. Whereas Beyonce, you go on her Instagram, you go on her Facebook, she's always entertaining. And she's connecting to people and she's influencing through that. So it's crazy how it's becoming so much more employee seeing Kevin Hart like it's sponsored
Starting point is 00:21:09 by Nike. Then you see, you know, the rock by under armor. So I think that, you know, these other big companies are on to it. It's just a matter of like who's, you know, like crazy. They're sponsored. Yeah. Do you guys speaking of markets, do you guys see the, the, the Dow this morning? Oh, from Trump's news.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Well, yeah. So actually, I'll check it right now. So we got a little live update, but the market opened and just did dived. It looks like it's climbing back up a little bit. It's still in the negative. But we had two bits of news. So last week, we had news that trip, trip of this, the lowest unemployment numbers we've had since 1969
Starting point is 00:21:47 Wow and record unemployment numbers for minorities. Oh man. The left just hates to hear. Oh Dude I'm angry about crazy right and it's gonna be very hard to be Trump if this kind of If this kind of news keeps coming out because If there's an economic downturn or something really crazy happens, he'll be beatable. But if it keeps this pace, I don't see them coming near him at all
Starting point is 00:22:13 because that's crazy. That's not just a great number. Do you think it can keep this pace? I think, well, no, it never does, but we have the election coming up. So it's like, can it keep that pace and can the good news keep coming till that happens? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:22:29 Well, what do you think is gonna happen right now with the market was just happening with China? So we're gonna take probably a dip. We did, we did take a dip. Trump is talking about slapping on new tariffs on Chinese goods, and he's very open now about the fact that this is his bargaining chip. He's like, look, this is what I can do.
Starting point is 00:22:47 I can do this by myself and come to the negotiation table. Otherwise, I'll keep doing this. And here's the deal. The better our economy looks on one end with unemployment and GDP and all that stuff, the more poll he's gonna have for that kind of stuff. Because here every time he raises the tariffs, it costs us more money to buy products and goods,
Starting point is 00:23:09 but with us getting the kind of information, good news that we just got with unemployment, it emboldens him. So imagine now, here comes this guy who considers himself the master negotiator. He wrote the book, something about the deal, the art of the deal, right? So it's the case thing, right?
Starting point is 00:23:24 So now he goes to the table with the Chinese leadership. He sits down and goes, hey, look, I've been raising your, I've been charging, you know, tariffs on your goods. And so far, our unemployment went down and this and that. And the American people support me. And I'll keep doing this unless you guys do what I tell you. I should give them a lot of power. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:44 It's gonna be really interesting to see, but the market did take a big dump today because he tweeted that he would, and it's funny, just an individual tweet from the guy, you'll see the market react, up or down, which is kind of crazy. He's created that for me. If you're a smart investor,
Starting point is 00:24:00 like I'm on a tech thread with my cousins and my brother who are all, this is what they do for a living. And you should have seen them yesterday. They're like, oh fuck, you know, Trump just tweeted this and you know that the, you know, futures are looking crazy because people are, you know, it's gonna be crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Drop, if you know how to work the market, you can short the market on stuff, on just office tweet, you know, and make money off of it. So is it buy, buy, buy for them right now? I mean, is that what they're, that's what they are doing. Yeah. So as the market's taking a dump, they're buying shit that they consider to be on sale.
Starting point is 00:24:28 But it's, I mean, it dropped 400 points at the open. And as of right now, which is what time is it right now? It's almost 11 o'clock. It's only 200, it's went up another 200 points. Still in the negative button. Really interesting. It's a crazy times, man. We'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:24:42 My, here's my theory. Here's what I think's to happen, my prediction. Not necessarily, you know, the guy I would necessarily vote for, but I think he's going to be on, if the economy continues to do well, and I'm looking at the lineup that the Democrats have, he's going to be untouchable. No one's going to be able to touch him, he'll win again, and then because it's the second term, usually presidents in their second term, they'll do the unpopular shit that they were afraid to do in the first term because
Starting point is 00:25:08 of fear not getting reelected. So I think, just like Obama did, like first term talked about, Obamacare, second term, forced that shit through, probably would have lost them the second election, but he did the second time because he can't run a third time anyway. I think what Trump will do is if he wins, I think the next step he'll take is he'll cut government spending and eliminate a lot of this bureaucracy which will piss off a lot of people because you're talking about a lot of people are getting
Starting point is 00:25:35 laid off. That's what I think will happen, but we'll see what happens. Anyway, really interesting stuff. So, yeah, do you guys, either one of you guys use Tumblr at all? The, it's like a blog hosting app or whatever. So it's really popular.
Starting point is 00:25:50 In 2006 is when it launched and in like 2013, Yahoo bought it, Verizon bought Yahoo, but when they bought it, they made this decision to pull all the adult content off of it. So it used to be a place where you could- There's free. Free. Say anything you want, talk about whatever,
Starting point is 00:26:08 and it exploded originally. And then when Verizon or Yahoo took it over, they pulled the adult content. And since then, it's been- I'm just tankin'. Yeah, tankin'. But there's one company that's been showing a bunch of interest in it, and rumors are that they're gonna buy it,
Starting point is 00:26:24 and that's Pornhub. interest in it and rumors are that they're gonna buy it and that's porn hub So I thought that was kind of fascinating that that porn hub might swoop up. You may turn that ship around Right, I think that obviously everything they touch Turns into gold. It's a D. Rex to the stars That's that's hilarious. You know, it's funny about all that so Facebook just pulled Larry, you know what's funny about all that? So Facebook just pulled several big influencers or whatever you wanna call them off their platforms
Starting point is 00:26:49 because they deem them, you know, have hate speech and stuff like that. So Louis Ferrican, they booted him off, pissed off Snoop Dogg, whatever, nobody cares. He, they pulled off other people and a lot of people are up in arms about it. Other people are like, you know, they're a private business. They can do that, it's up to them.
Starting point is 00:27:06 I agree they're a private business. They can pull whoever they want. But here's the other thing. I heard this angle a while ago, and I thought this was brilliant. So the reason why the phone companies were never liable for anything that was ever said over their phone lines is because they way they positioned themselves was all we do is provide the lines,
Starting point is 00:27:26 what's set on the lines, we don't regulate, we don't look at, we don't talk about, we don't touch. So we're not liable for if somebody like makes a phone call and like organizes a crime or whatever, right? Facebook and all these social media platforms have been so far untouchable because that was originally their model. Like, hey, we don't, we're just a platform, just like the phone company. Here's the problem.
Starting point is 00:27:51 They're starting to regulate and censor and take people off their page, which now opens them up. And I heard this from a, that's interesting. I heard this from a lawyer, a prestigious lawyer. And I can't remember where I saw it, and he made the case, and I think he's right. If somebody says some shit and it causes some problems, somebody may be able to make a case to sue Facebook,
Starting point is 00:28:16 and if Facebook comes back and says, hey, we're not responsible, but like, you sure are. Right, you do this. You pull these things out. Yeah, and you guys failed to do this. It's really crazy position. They placed themselves. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Think about that. I didn't think about that with the phone companies, right? We just, we grew up with it. So you don't really think about what was it like when it evolved and it first started like the disability. Now that anybody can call anybody and talk about whatever they want to talk about, it's really not that different than social media, right?
Starting point is 00:28:43 Yeah. And that was, and people don't realize that. That was a big, like discussion when phone companies first came onto the scene. Yeah, because there's nothing that stops me from calling your phone number and harassing you and saying, put saying shit and doing, being crazy, no different than somebody coming
Starting point is 00:28:57 on your Instagram page and saying shit like that. Like, that's right. Your option is to block them or hang up the phone, right? So it's pretty much the same thing. It is never thought of that. Except now they're totally censoring they're totally regulating. So now it's more like a magazine or a newspaper. So let's say a magazine from 20 years ago or you know 20 years ago printed an article that was all kinds of crazy hate speech and it incited a riot or incited someone to kill someone, they probably could have been
Starting point is 00:29:27 held liable or at the very least the case could be made. Well, now these companies are setting that precedent that they're not like the phone company. They're more like a publication in which case, yeah, they're editing everything. So that therefore it is a publication unless you get your hands off and you let people just have discourse amongst each other. Yeah, that therefore it is a publication unless you get your hands off and you let people just have discourse amongst each other. Yeah, dude Then then they're definitely like all Dude all it takes is one case to get taken to court and to win and then that's it. That's gonna change it off I mean sometimes I think that they're making so much money. It's just like a speeding ticket
Starting point is 00:30:03 It's like you know so what some case happens and they're like, I'm suing for 100 million, what's 100 million dollars to Facebook? Well, think about it this way. It's all about the precedents. So let's say somebody sues, speaking of speeding ticket, I got one this week. Did you really?
Starting point is 00:30:15 How fast were you going? Actually, I was, I was doing it while we were doing more in 85. I was coming home from, we went up. In school zone? No, no. Come on. Bad guy like that. We were actually coming back from. We went up. No, no, no. Come on, bad guy like that.
Starting point is 00:30:25 We were actually coming back from up where I grew up up by Don Pedro Lake and it's all country roads that I drove since I was a kid and, you know, I'm were flying on our way. We were actually flying back to the world. It was like a country sheriff pulled you over a lot. No, it was a highway patrol and he was actually cool. So he pulled me over.
Starting point is 00:30:42 But he was upset at first and he like, fuck, really? Come on. We're out in the country like this and you're going to get you're going to get me on a speeding ticket. There's like two cars on the, you know, on the road. And we're more mobbing down. Pulse me over. But he ended up giving me just a fix it ticket for my, my, we're at our, my driver's license doesn't have our new address on it. So it was cool. Like, he could have nailed me for like, they can give you a ticket for that? Yeah. For not having the right,
Starting point is 00:31:08 because you moved. Yeah. And you haven't updated it on your driver's license. Did you get the new ID, the real ID from the, what does that look like? Pretty, like, I don't know when it happened. Same thing just has like different badge on it. Yeah, so in order to like fly in the country,
Starting point is 00:31:24 you have to have a real ID soon. Oh, no in order to fly in the country, you have to have a real ID soon. Or you'll have to use a passport. Yeah, no, I have a passport already. But I didn't get, what does it look like? Does it look like something different than the driver's license? It looks a little bit different.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Yeah, but like a little thing, so. California Barra. Hold that second. Why is so hard to drive a picture, bro? I'm happy, right? Yeah. It's a good, it I'm happy, right? Yeah. It's a good, it's a happy day right there. It's a good day.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Is that your original, no, original? No. The one you still have here, the adult, you got a drive like who cares? I'm excited, dude. Excited for a new picture. Look at this smile, bro. Do you have one that had to try?
Starting point is 00:32:00 The one I had before this. I don't know if I still have it in the, I should see. Well, you guys saw my old, my old one with my glasses. I would I would I had to do it face you remember I had to do it for so I was a refinancing my house and I needed to get I needed my driver's license and it was expired and so like I had to go down and just so happen to be I got nailed with like the flu and so I went down and took the picture this is like years ago this is over 10 years. So you had a flu picture. Oh yeah. So the picture before some of that's why and took the picture. This is like years ago, this is over 10 years.
Starting point is 00:32:25 So you had a flu picture? Oh, yeah. So the picture before, so maybe that's why I'm so happy because I was like, for years, I had this like, I mean, just look terrible. So I did my hair and, you know, I made it happen. I'm gonna look good. If I get pulled over, I'm gonna look good. It's a little awesome. Yeah, yeah. I've never known. We're now in the limelight. She liked that. If my post might, you know, I don't't want like my criminal picture if something bad happens. I want a good image I think it'll be great if they did that didn't we do that to each other a long time ago. Oh, yeah We staged it didn't we no, no driver's license photo. Yes, if you look way back on the mind pump It's already on the internet bro. Yeah, we did that just like blocked out the information
Starting point is 00:33:02 I think that was the old one. I think you got really old Yeah, I think you got an old one am it this is relatively new like it's not the it's not the old old one Yeah, I had the flu I looked terrible and then we all look horrible the one before that was still I think my original one from when I was 16 and I had like bleached tip tear and Weight like a shaved head weight like a hotter and a 35 pound timer. I get pulled over, try to go to clubs, so I thought, look how you ate this guy. This is not even right.
Starting point is 00:33:29 That's why I look at my 16, you know what I'm saying? This is your son. Dude, so this morning I was working out in my garage and I kind of was in a hurry, and you know, it takes time to switch exercises with free weights, right? And I had to finish my workout in like 45 minutes, but I want to do high volume. And I revisited an old technique that, I mean, we've probably talked about it a few times on the show, but I'm like, I should bring this up on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:33:55 So it was a high volume workout. So what I was doing, I was doing between eight to nine sets per body part. And typically the way I do this is I'll do three exercises, three sets each, right? Nine sets. Instead, what I did was one exercise, nine sets all the way through. So rather than doing a lot of variety on the exercises, it was just a shit ton of volume on single exercise. I love to do that.
Starting point is 00:34:19 And I forgot about- I like the simplicity of it. I'll do that with squat or bench on some days where it's just like, I'm just gonna do like all of that. Keep going. Well, you know, here's every time I do that, I feel that that workout, it feels different than when I change a lot of different exercise.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I think it's just because it hammers the angle of pull at hammers that particular specific movements, and you just squeeze out the maximum benefits of that, whatever particular exercise you're doing. Yeah, well, I feel like I hone in on that movement a lot when I really just stay in that same movement and for multiple sets in a row, you really start to feel the effects of it.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Yeah, it's like what we talk about. Our bodies are adaptation machines. And I haven't done that in a while. Yeah, and if you always train in the three to at most five, you know, set range, and you're never doing more than about five sets at most, nothing better than to fucking shock the hell out of your body and do 10 sets of an exercise and watch what happens.
Starting point is 00:35:17 And what I try to do, my aim is I'll pick an exercise and I'll do a rep range and the goal is to be able to maintain that exact amount of reps for all nine or 10 sets or whatever. So it's like the first few sets are kinda easy, but man, you can tell that I can tell that I typically train three to four sets per exercise because after setting number four, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:35:40 oh shit, my body's like getting weaker all of a sudden. I'm pushing through. I go to, I mean, when I take breaks where I've been off for a couple of weeks from training in my first day of back, it was, I used to always, first day in the gym, it was 10 by 10 of squatting 135. That squat, 135, 10 sets, 10 reps all the way through. And it doesn't sound like very much, but it's, you what? Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:36:02 So sad. Oh, yeah. No, absolutely. Did you guys get your back in you? Because I remember last week, you guys are talking about how you both, but I tell you what. Oh, yeah, so sad. Oh, yeah, no, absolutely. Did you guys get your back in you, because I remember last week you guys were having a, both either one of you had worked out for a whole week. Did you guys get any exercise in there? Yeah, I did. Yeah, I got in a couple workouts this week.
Starting point is 00:36:13 And in between my coaching sessions for all my kids' teams. Oh, what's going on with that? Dude, so this week I was busy. We had like a couple of double headers. And like I was out there on third base, doing my third base coaching. And this is where I do most, I help the team out the most in terms of coaching. And so the kids are like, now they can steal and they can do all these new additions,
Starting point is 00:36:39 they can bump, they can do, they're doing kid pitch and stuff. So it's been this evolution of they can do, like they're doing kid pitch and stuff. So it's been this evolution of like, you know, double A, they kind of introduce new variables. And so, uh, so of course, something happened with, with, you know, Ethan again, my kid, where, uh, like I was coaching third and there was a play in a situation where he hits the ball and it sort of goes towards first base. He makes it the first base. There's an overthrow. There's two people on base already before he starts running. So there's two runners potentially ahead of him. So one of them makes it all the way. I'm rounding him to home base because there's all these over throws. And so the first guy scores. Then the second guy is kind of running. And then he gets the third base and he starts running back because he thinks he's gonna get thrown at home.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Meanwhile, my son's running as fast as he can towards third and then he's rounding third. Now they're both together like running me like this. I'm like, oh shit. So I'm telling the other guy to run home and I'm telling my kid to go back and he's not going back. He's almost lapping the other guy. So my instinct was boom, grab him, I closed line him. No, no, wait a minute. I don't know what happened, dude.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Is that illegal? Yes. Yes, like he should have been out and I totally like, like just annihilated my kid. Hold on, your own son. Yes, you reached into the game. Yeah, because he kept running and I'm like, no. And like I just stuck my kept running and I'm like no and like I just
Starting point is 00:38:05 stuck my arm out and he's like and like landed and I picked him up putting back you know real quick and like like my hands went up in the air like it's not me you know because technically he would have been out and then they would have got out of the the ending and this was a really intense tight game with like this team the Yankees that were like you know they have our number so I wanted to play so bad he just had to play. Yeah, I was like, into it. So what happened, you getting trouble? No, they let that go.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Parents didn't freak out. Nobody freaked out. There was nobody that saw it, except for all the parents on our side. From that angle, they all saw me totally close-by. And somebody took a video, I'm gonna try and find it. Oh, no. Yeah, so I did your sunset after you did that.
Starting point is 00:38:45 He's like, Dad, did they win? Yeah, we won that game. So that was like, we just barely squeaked it out by like two runs. Oh, that's hilarious. Yeah, so that one mattered. Like if they would have caught that, we probably would have either tied or lost.
Starting point is 00:38:57 So how many games, how many games you play this weekend then? So we've played four games. Oh, shit. Yeah, it was a crazy weekend, dude, cause my youngest had some games too. So yeah, they were doing all these makeup games because of the rain.
Starting point is 00:39:09 So I'm like, I'm, I got one tonight, too. It's crazy. Is that considered cheating that you did that? Yeah. You're not supposed to get involved. Yeah, I remember when we first started talking about the you and the training with your oldest, you, because the youngest is like the born athlete.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Like he's more, most like you. And I remember when your oldest was first starting to get into baseball, you were kind of concerned if he, how's this progression been? I mean, you guys, it's getting better. I mean, it's been a real transformation with him in terms of like what I've seen him hitting wise and what I've seen him like mechanically.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Like there's, there's points where I think catching is something we really need to work on because he still has that flinch kind of reaction. Exactly. I think when he gets older, he'll be more comfortable with, but that's his first reaction is to be like, ah, and it goes right past him or it hits his glove
Starting point is 00:40:02 and he doesn't squeeze down. There's so many little nuances I have to like stay on top of it though like he he just needs all those coaching cues like all the way through It's crazy, but it does make a difference. I want to come watch a game. I would love that Yeah, so I've got I've got two two nephews little nephews that played well one of them is already out of college And he played in college and then we have a young one that's coming up right now and he's only 12 years old. And he just, he doesn't quite have the athletic abilities is like, he, the older one has. And he had a, we're, we're just discussing this like the week before. And I'm like, really, are you sure,
Starting point is 00:40:39 you know, like, he's like, no, you can just tell by this age, you can just see if he's got or not. Well, one of Katrina's family members, friends comes over and he's got like a nine year old, right, that comes over. And this kid is throwing the ball with the kid that went to college playing, playing baseball. And they're playing this game that I never played. I forget what he called it, but it's the baseball heading towards your face is two points in your in your chest or stomach is one point. And then it's like, if you catch it, there's a point. So it's like, so imagine Justin and I being about, I would say 20 to 30 yards away from each other. And we're we're whipping it at each other back and forth. And every time I throw it at
Starting point is 00:41:20 Justin, if he catches it right in front of his head, I get two points for that. For being right on, right? Right on point. If he catches it right in front of his head, I get two points for that. For being right on, right on point. If he catches it off to the side, I don't get any points. And it's like the first person to 21. And he was playing with this, he got beat by this little nine year old kid who was just fling in the ball at him.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Yeah, it was crazy to see. There's some skilled kids like that. Oh man, I didn't realize what a difference until I saw that kid playing. He's like two years, two, three years younger than the one that my other nephew. I'm like, oh, shit. Dude, I used to have a client who had a grandson
Starting point is 00:41:53 who's both the kid's parents were college D1 athletes. The father was soccer and the mom was volleyball. And this kid was three years old and he used to have a plastic baseball and a plastic bat. Three years old, he throw it up, boom, throw it up, boom. Every time, never miss, you pitch to the kid, boom, he'd knock it every single time. As that kid grew up, he was just,
Starting point is 00:42:17 the challenge that they had with the kid was how to teach him to not be so cocky because he was just just he was always the best. He was just so yeah so so so when I would train this lady she was like I would talk to her about him and I'm like how do you do and she's like well you mean she's like he's doing good. She's like he's becoming a little shit. I'm like what do you mean she's because you talk shit the whole time and about this and that she's like I'm trying to figure out a way to knock him off his podium so So, you know, he learns how, which is an interesting challenge if you think about it, right?
Starting point is 00:42:47 Right, right. Because if you're, you see, you can. I will, you spend so many years of building him up and building his college. Well, he would just like that since he was two and three. Turn him into a Deon Sanders or something like that. Well, well, think about it. Let's say the kid grows up and he's always just crushing people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:02 At some point, he's going to hit an obstacle. If he never learns how to do that, it could be great, though. It would be great and humbling. Hopefully he didn't happen. He's a Tiger Woods bro. He's just, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's never seen videos of Tiger Woods.
Starting point is 00:43:12 And now he's here amazing. Yeah, same thing. And probably really cocky and arrogant for most of his life. Then you get caught sleeping with a bunch of hookers. Oh, you know, he's a humble pie, right? That's what, that's what, that's what, that's what, that's what always happens. Just get here.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Speaking of kids, did you guys see the study that was or the article that's making the rounds on energy drinks? No. And kids. So they do this. Yeah, scared us right now. No, I'm not going to scare you. Always fine.
Starting point is 00:43:38 I'm not going to scare you. This one goes out to length. So what they found was people who drink energy drinks a lot at a 85% increase in cancer. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding with you Adam. It's freaked everybody out. No, no, but they found what this, so this is a study that came out that found that energy
Starting point is 00:43:53 drinks could trigger nasty side effects like heart problems and seizures in half of the kids that they studied. And so now these energy drinks, caffeine is the issue. And you guys know as well as I do caffeine is a I mean, it's a potent drug. It's one of the most it's the most used and potentially abused drug and put on the legal drug, right? It's it's well, well, the the LD50 on it's not even that high like abused. Yeah, so it doesn't take a whole ton of caffeine to become toxic in fact and you know It's not regulated at all any kid could go to Starbucks and buy super strong coffee and can go back and get a second and third
Starting point is 00:44:32 One and a fourth one and potentially cause problems, but that's okay. We've all learned kind of had a mini You know how to manage this kind of stuff well energy drinks because they're kind of advertised to kids like I was at Target and I saw They have a gaming energy drinks now. Have you seen these by Mountain Dew? Yeah, no, they're going after the gamers now. And you can tell by the flavors and the colors, you know, that who they're kind of targeting. Well, what's more, dude, remember when you had all the different gums that were just like like cigar cigarettes, yeah, chewing tobacco. Yeah, What are we teaching these kids?
Starting point is 00:45:05 But they didn't have nicotine though. That's true. It wasn't like a big distinction. It wasn't like gum candy cigarettes with actual pictures still actually giving them caffeine. So what I think this is starting to show, just because of the popularity of them and that so many kids are drinking them,
Starting point is 00:45:21 is you're gonna start to see some, already some places are passing loss and you can't sell energy drinks to kids. Well, I mean, when did Starbucks come around, Doug? I mean, we were already out of high school or close to leaving high school when Starbucks even became a thing. Nobody's like, yeah, going to school.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Well, now if you're in high, I could just imagine, because I know if I was in school. That's like a place to hang out. Well, we didn't, nobody drink coffee when I was a kid. Yeah, coffee was what adults do. That's what I'm saying. But when now that Starbucks is there, I think probably, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:45:50 what's the percentage of high schoolers you think they're drinking coffee? Oh, it's at least a quarter, right? It's at least a quarter more than that. I would think more than that. I don't know, but it's at least that in my estimation. Yeah, I guess it's become a thing. Yeah, I mean, when I go into a Starbucks now,
Starting point is 00:46:04 you see all ages now. Yeah, and's become a thing. Yeah, I mean, when I want I go and do a Starbucks now, you see doll ages now. Yeah. And what about the energy drinks that they weren't when we were kids, there was jolt cola. Yeah, that was like 50 milligrams of like Chinatown. Yeah, it was like 60 milligrams of caffeine. It was like nothing. And Red Bull wasn't even a thing. No. And then Red Bull came out. And so now it's becoming this big thing. So I think what's probably going to start happening is you're going to start to see some regulation and some backlash with some of these energy drinks because some of these energy drinks are silly. They're just silly.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Like there was one the other day that I saw it was like 300 milligrams of caffeine in a drink that was flavored, I think it was like cotton candy flavor. So it's gonna happen. That's fucking, that's too much for me. We're gonna see like, you know, like the tide pod challenge. It's gonna be like some stupid challenge around like drink 30 rock stars in a 30 in 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:46:53 I'm so sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Right. It'll be something stupid like that. That'll get a bus. That's interesting theory. Like, I don't know what will happen with that.
Starting point is 00:47:00 If that's something that we'll see, you know, backlash. It'll take one big national headline, you know, some kid or whatever. And then that, that'll start the legislation with, you know, politicians trying to. Definitely, yeah, yeah. Something to be concerned with. There was a kid, there was a kid not that long ago
Starting point is 00:47:15 who you used to be able to, and I'm pretty sure it's illegal now, you used to be able to buy powdered caffeine. Yeah. So like, you know, you could buy powder alcohol. Yeah, well, that's another story. But at least powdered alcohol, you have to be 21. Can you snort it? I mean, it's a good question.
Starting point is 00:47:29 People snort it. Stopping you. That's a good question. Imagine that. You might be able to. That's a good question. Well, anyway, so what happened? That's a burn.
Starting point is 00:47:36 This was made national. This made national headlines. Anything will burn. I think you should put it up your nose. Yeah. This, there was powdered caffeine in people would buy in bulk and they'd put like a little bit in there, they're, you know, to make their own pre-workout or whatever they were gonna do.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Some kid bought it and his friend dared him to eat a tablespoon of it, which turned out to be like 2,000 or 2,500 milligrams of caffeine he died. Oh wow. And then they made it, I'm pretty sure you can't buy powdered caffeine anymore. Pretty sure it's illegal, so. This Quas brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition,
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Starting point is 00:48:39 Mm. Cannabis, you know, it's because of the legalization efforts, which I applaud. I don't I think people should be able to do whatever they want with their bodies. I think there's there's just been this also this message because of it that cannabis is totally totally harmless. Yes, like fair game now. Yeah, like it's harmless and do as much as you want. I think it's important to note that in this question is highlighting it, anything can be abused, anything. And cannabis is no different than anything else
Starting point is 00:49:10 that can be abused. It might not have necessarily the same acute negative effects as alcohol, but I've seen what too much cannabis can do, and I've also felt it. And what tends to happen to me is I start to feel, first of all, if I get the less of the benefits of the cannabis, and then I also notice I feel less motivated and overall down.
Starting point is 00:49:31 It's like my overall level of energy and enthusiasm and all that stuff, motivation, just kind of comes down a notch and so I'm not as sharp. So I actually recently reduced the amount of cannabis that I was using significantly. And I paid attention to how I felt while I was doing it. So the first time I did it, I said, I'm going to go off completely for about three weeks. But I did notice I had issues with sleep for that first week or so. And I had these really fucked up dreams, like really vivid, crazy dreams that I've read that that's a common side effect. But I went through the process, then I started going back and started using a very low amount,
Starting point is 00:50:17 and then after that I tried to reduce it again, but I did something a little bit different. There's two things that I did, and this is kind of the strategy I do with caffeine as well, which I think caffeine is way harder to come off than cannabis, at least it was for me. What I'll recommend to people with caffeine is I'll tell them to cut their total caffeine intake by a quarter every week. And so by the fourth week or by the fifth week they're off.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Does that make sense? So if you're doing a full cup of coffee, what week one you'll go down to three quarters of a cup and then fill up the rest with decaf. By the fourth week it's all decaf and then you're off and that you still feel you still don't you can tell that you're going off or you're going down, but it's not this huge boom, big difference. With cannabis, I've found that, and I've had a couple of clients I've helped through this process as well. As I'll tell them to the same thing, take your total usage, be honest about it, reduce it
Starting point is 00:51:14 by a quarter each week until you're down to none, and then one other thing that I've done that seems to have helped, and this is my anecdote. I don't have any studies to support this. This is my own anecdote. Is to, as you're reducing the amount of THC that you're consuming, to increase the amount of CBD that you're consuming. I've done that too. I have you.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Yeah, it's weird that you mentioned that. That was like, I mean, I kind of, you know, I'm relatively new. I'm not like, you know, super super big user of cannabis or anything, but over the last year or so, I've loved to intermittently use five milligrams and it's helped me relax and also be more creative. But I have found that I'll get on these runs
Starting point is 00:52:00 of a couple of months where it's reoccurring. It's five, six times a week. And then I start to get a little bit addicted to that where I start to then introduce more CBD and then start scaling it out by keeping the amount of CBD high while reducing the amount of... Well, what are you guys using, the Ned dropper? Or what are you guys using?
Starting point is 00:52:22 That's what I use. Now in the past, what I would do is I would go to the dispensary and I would get Extremely low or know if I could find it's hard to find THC cannabis and I would just use CBD cannabis But I like this a lot better because I'm not smoking anything and it's it's a tincture You know you just the dropper or whatever and here's a thing with CBD. So here's why this might be a good strategy, at least it's my theory. First off, it's the intoxicating effects of cannabis
Starting point is 00:52:51 that people are wanting to reduce when they're trying to reduce their cannabis usage. You know what I'm saying? It's like they don't wanna be high as much. That's where they're noticing the negatives. And that's probably where they are getting some of the negatives. CBD isn't psychoactive. It's not going to get you high, and it doesn't interact directly
Starting point is 00:53:09 with the two cannabinoid receptors that THC does, but what it does seem to do in the body is it seems to improve your body's ability to use its own endocannabinoids. So in my opinion, this is a smart strategy, excuse me, because you go down on this phytocannabinoids or exogenous cannabinoids, meaning your body's not making them. You're reducing that. Your body's probably trying to boost up its own natural endocannabinoids, but they're not quite high yet. CBD makes your own cannabinoids.
Starting point is 00:53:41 And maybe even the phytocannabinoids that you're still consuming, more effective in the body, so it kind of lessens the blow of going off of cannabis. So I found this personally and for a few people that I've worked with, they've gotten the same thing like really good results from it, kind of mitigate some of those negative side effects. That's interesting. I've never tried. So you had gotten me a long time ago and that's just how I use my net is Anytime I smoke I just I drop I think a dropper of the net at the same time to try and make even out the THC to CBD ratio
Starting point is 00:54:14 And I that just makes me feel better period. So I but I've never used it like as a you know tapering off off a marijuana, you know, and I really think this is very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very and the same thing with caffeine, right? So I've learned over all the years of using caffeine, using cannabis, that there comes a point where it starts to affect other parts of my life. Whether that be socially or it be sleeping at night or my ability to podcast better, like there's definitely a point that when I get there, I know that it's starting to give me diminishing returns and that's all you notice What are the diminishing returns from the cannabis? So that I'm not as sharp on the podcast. So I'm also
Starting point is 00:55:17 less social less active so I typically Less motivated to lift and work out I typically less motivated to lift and work out or even do things around the house that I need to get knocked out and get done or be productive for work. Just a, I'm a less productive person when I'm on it, which is why I'm really good about waiting to like the end of the night before I kind of,
Starting point is 00:55:39 when I'm winding down. And that's when I have my, my, my, and I haven't, for me, because I, you know, I've shared on the show that, you know, I smoke world joints, Katrina rolls me joints. And I know that when I get to about where I smoke a half a joint, that's kind of my, that's like to my, what I would say,
Starting point is 00:55:58 my 300 to 400 milligrams of caffeine, those are my, that's your number. That's my number, right? Once I, when I start hitting that, and then I find that I'm having to hit that just to feel the positive effects from it, I know it's time to go back to the other direction. And, you know, that's just been through years of trial and error and allowing myself to go beyond that and seeing the negative effects or keeping it much lower and seeing where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:56:21 And so anytime I reach that threshold on both caffeine and marijuana, and I kind of been staying there for maybe a week or two, that's normally my sign that, okay, it's time to wing myself off for a few days or something. And depending on how long it's been to, if I've been really consistent days like in a row, I'll wing off for a whole week when it comes to cannabis use. And caffeine very similar. And I agree with you, so like caffeine will give me like the headaches and I'm really tired and caffeine very similar. And I agree with you, Sal, like caffeine will give me like the headaches and I'm really tired and fatigued. And so not having caffeine is way harder than cannabis.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Cannabis I find as long as I keep it, that's my peak. It's not really that tough for me to pull, I can completely cut cold turkey from that point. So from just somebody who has a half of a joint at the highest in a day, I can all send just say, it's not that hard. Yeah, I'm not gonna have any for the next week
Starting point is 00:57:10 and it's not like, oh God, I need my week. I think you definitely feel a physiological withdrawal but it's mild and comparison to other substances. But caffeine. But there's a lot of people that are, just like with anything, right? They get this psychological addiction where it's like, I need it just to, you know, because-
Starting point is 00:57:28 Well, it's part of a ritual. That's probably actually the hardest part. The hardest part for me is actually, that's why it's really easy when I go like on vacation or do something that I don't need. So it's not there. Yeah, it's not there. I have a ritual that I do.
Starting point is 00:57:40 It's like, you know, once I wind completely down and I decide to sit down and watch my Netflix series for the evening or whatever and it's seven, eight o'clock at night, you know, I plop down on the couch. One of my favorite things to do is I reach over on my coffee table and, you know, take a couple hits off the joint and then put my feet up on the couch. So I find myself more addicted to the ritual than I am actually the substance. And so, you know, if I, and that was so one of the hacks, I guess, for this person is pay attention if you have similar things like that and create new habits around that time for a while while you're pulling yourself off. So instead of me sitting down and watching TV, maybe that would be a good time for
Starting point is 00:58:17 me to like, oh, this week at eight o'clock a night when I would normally sit down and watch Netflix, I'm going to discipline myself to read because I'm the, I don't have a desire to smoke weed while I'm reading one of my books. So maybe find a different habit or yet you can meal prep whatever, whatever it may be that you would naturally want to go gravitate to smoke. Yeah, and it's funny because you can find studies that'll show that when people, because when you use a lot of cannabis, one of the big side effects of it is short-term memory degradation.
Starting point is 00:58:48 People just don't, like you said Adam, feel a sharp, not able to recall short-term memories as quickly. This is with heavy use. And anybody who smokes weed and denies it, you're full of shit. Like smoke a lot of weed, guaranteed you'll see when you test that you're just not going to remember stuff as well.
Starting point is 00:59:05 And what they find in some of these studies is that when you do it with CBD, some of that isn't mitigated, and they've shown this. This other major side effect of a lot of cannabis use is anxiety and paranoia that can definitely happen in people when they go heavy, heavy use and they're using an ideally basis. Also, when you take CBD with THC,
Starting point is 00:59:26 they find, it doesn't cure it, but it does mitigate a lot of the effects. When they do these big, long studies, they find people who use lots of THC, the rate of anxiety and paranoia and those types of feelings goes up a significant amount. When people do use a lot of THC, but also use a lot of CBD with it.
Starting point is 00:59:45 There's a difference. And it's just funny to me because the old school cannabis probably was relatively balanced. They probably had. No, it absolutely was. And we just bred it to be super stale. We have the, I mean, it was like 12, 12, 15% THC.
Starting point is 01:00:02 That was considered strong. Yeah, no, no, that's what I'm saying. That was like the peak was like 12, 15% THC, where now we're pushing north of 25. I mean, you're talking about it, almost a double increase in THC levels and the CBD, the ratio hasn't isn't the same, right? So the CBD has been relatively the same, even when it was in the low 12 to 13%
Starting point is 01:00:27 So the the ratio of CBD to TC as was you know relatively high or better a better ratio You should say and then when we went up to like 25. It's just not the same That's you when you share that with me that was like that. That's how I use Ned majority the time for me is Yeah, keep it then you know, keep it in the same place. And you know, you put on your tongue for about 30 seconds to a minute. So I'm literally, the first thing I do, drop the net underneath my tongue,
Starting point is 01:00:52 get my stuff already, I'll put on the coffee table, get my show ready, and then I rinse it down, and then I go right to lighten right after that. And it's, I definitely feel better off of that. Yeah, the main reason I see people using it is EnzioLytic. That's where I keep getting messages. Like, the main reason I see people using it is enziolytic. That's where I'm keep getting messages. Like, it helps me with anxiety.
Starting point is 01:01:09 And these are people who don't use cannabis. They just got the net because they wanted to see if it helped them with those effects. That's the biggest thing. But the kind of sleeper is what we're talking about. Because as cannabis use goes up, I think you're gonna see more and more people realize, like, oh shit, I should probably balance this out with something that's going to take away some of the negatives.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Next question is from Alejandro Sanchez takes photos. What are the uses for the Bison squat bar? That's our guy. Yeah, it was that. That's who just shot our last mine pump lives. That's right. And shot our Seattle mirror. So the bison bar is that kind of curved bar where the
Starting point is 01:01:47 weights are lower than the middle of the bar that's sitting on your traps. And there's different variations. I know the bison one is specifically the curve one. But then you have bars that are more jagged, right? They come out straight and they drop down. And then they put weights. Yeah, when you originally picked the question, I thought that that's what we were talking about. I'm not even familiar with the name of that bar. I've used that bar.
Starting point is 01:02:10 There's a few bars out there. There's a safety bar. There's a yoke bar. There's all these different kind of variations of that, but they all are, you know, the whole thing's about like where they're loading the weight. And that's what's interesting. Now, I don't have a ton of personal experience
Starting point is 01:02:24 using these bars, but just by looking at them and this little experience I do have with them, the big difference, really, if obviously is the placing of the weight, which would change the lever a little bit. So what I mean by that is, so if you took a broomstick and you lifted a broomstick by the middle of it, it would be a lot lighter or easier to lift. And if you grabbed the very, very end of it and tried to lift it out straight in front of you. And that's just physics. The lever gets longer if you put weight further away from you on the on a long lever. It's going to feel heavier than if you move it closer to your body. And so this
Starting point is 01:02:59 changes the lever a little bit in the sense that the weight is lower on the body. So you don't your upper body isn't so long of a lever with the placement of the weights. So it feels like there's less of that back involvement in extension. It feels like there's more of your hips or more of your legs and less of that kind of back extension. It's interesting when you make it. It's more centric. It's interesting when you do it.
Starting point is 01:03:20 It feels weird. So especially the bottom of the squat, because if you've squatted a lot, and you're used to just a standard bar, Olympic bar, and then you go use one of these bars at the bottom, which is why I like it, it just kind of throws it. It's your little instable at the very bottom, and it's just more challenging. You would think that- Is it make you sit up more? No, it's not that it makes you sit well. Yeah, it kind of makes you sit up a little bit more.
Starting point is 01:03:45 You would think based off of your theory, you're saying that it would be easier, but I don't think it's easier at all. I don't think it feels the way, I can't, at least I can't do more weight on any of those bars and I can't stand in a Olympic bar. And based off of what you're saying,
Starting point is 01:04:01 you would think that you would be able to. I just think it would be different. I think it would be easier if that's what you always squatted with. You know what I'm saying? So I'm wondering if it's, I don't know, like I said, I don't have a ton of experience, but just do you feel it more in the quads
Starting point is 01:04:14 when you're doing it with one of these types of bars because the center of gravity. I do feel it more in the quads. I would feel like it would keep you more upright, right? Because the weights are lower. Well, what ends up happening as your torso is, because again, when you've trained a squat, over and over and over and over,
Starting point is 01:04:30 I mean, the mechanics of it, the hinging and the breaking at the knees, your timing is a certain way, and you get good at that, right? And just like any other skill, and it's like if you were to use your knowledge, if I was hitting with a baseball bat that was the same weight, the same size, always and also you gave me
Starting point is 01:04:50 something that was a little off like. Throw things off. Yeah, definitely throws things off. And so that part of it I enjoy and I, I, it's kind of a way that I would throw a curveball in my training. If today was a normal back squat day, I happen to be at the golds gym that has all these variations of bars. I loved it. It, it, it, it, it, it, it these variations of bars. I love to intermently inject them into the workout.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Every time I try one of those with a different like load where the plates are, like I always feel my core get like very activated. Oh, really? Yeah, because it's trying to make sense out of the, you know, the new way to stabilize, you know, the weight because it's like, it's different. Yeah, it's just displaced different. Yeah. So it's very active, like, especially, that's, that's a, that's a, a pendulum effect.
Starting point is 01:05:32 I would assume, right? Is that what you guys are talking about? The weights start to move back. Yes. Yeah, especially on the one that were, and I don't know the name of it, but it's the variation that I thought originally was where it comes out and then goes down, goes way down. So it's like the weights are by your hips when you're standing. And when you squat down, it really feels like
Starting point is 01:05:48 it's going to swing back and forth. So I would say that would just and just said over all the things like as far as quads, glutes, what do I feel the most in? I probably feel the most core activation because it feels so foreign and the weights display differently, that that's really having to fire. And that's how I like to, that's how I like to use it is what I'm trying to incorporate that more. Well, what's interesting about this is that highlights how specific your adaptations are with strength training. You get this general adaptation. What I mean by that is if you do a lot of barbell squats, your legs do get stronger.
Starting point is 01:06:21 And so generally, you'll probably be stronger at other leg exercises as well. But the vast majority of the strength gains that you're gonna get are very specific to what you're practicing. And so a slight variation, because to somebody who's not experienced, if they see someone squatting with a bison bar
Starting point is 01:06:41 or a straight bar, they'll look at and be like, oh, what's the difference? They're pretty much the same thing. It's kind of the same thing. But small changes make big changes or big differences in the way an exercise will feel. And it's all about that specific, the specificity of the adaptation,
Starting point is 01:06:58 which is why I like these types of tools, because especially for people who work out with free weights or work out in the garage, you might not have all these machines and stuff to apply all these different angles, but you can get different bars and they do feel very, very different on the muscles you're trying to work. And this is how I feel like I would use them is when I was really consistent with my lifting and I was, during competing times, I was up to the point where I was squatting 405 on a back squat with just a limpic bar
Starting point is 01:07:27 Man, nothing was better than coming in on it What would be normally a routine back squat day and I throw one of these different bars? I mean, I would be just it would break me at 315 So something that I could do before like 405 so they're just a little bit would just throw through a curveball on my routine I see a lot like yeah, and I look at them as kind of novelty in that curveball in my routine. I see a lot of it. Yeah, and I look at them as kind of novelty in that, the way that I look at chains and bands and accessories like that, to be able to kind of break the cycle that I've been in for so long, to where it provides a new stimulus, but it's still working and refining that same skill with a different stimulus, a different loading, a different sequence
Starting point is 01:08:02 of events of the movement, just to be able to then apply that back to that, you know, balanced load. Now, that being said, I do think there's a hierarchy of this, right? I think that you get really good at a traditional back squat and a front squat with an Olympic bar, really, really good first. And then, you know, once you've gotten that down really, really well, then I think tools like this are great things to... So, I have a lot of experience with trap bars, which, you know, you could do a deadlift
Starting point is 01:08:31 with a trap bar, which is similar to a straight bar deadlift, but obviously very, very different. And there's two ways that I would use it. One would be with the bodybuilder mentality, which is just different variety, different muscle activation. I'm feeling in different places. The other was a strength athlete version where I would just do track bar deadlifts for a couple months to see how far I could push
Starting point is 01:08:55 that particular variation. I like that version more mainly because I've been deadlifting so long. So if you're somebody who's been squatting for a long time and you've got a straight bar squat down, and you've been doing it for a long time consistently, why not try using one of these variation bars and do it for like a month or two,
Starting point is 01:09:12 and get really, really good at it and see what happens, and go back to your straight bar and see if you have any carryover. Could be fun. Next question is from Lift Up. What do you think of the USA food pyramid? What's good about it? And what's wrong about it? Could you pull it up on the TV screen? Yeah, that's why I'm asking. Could you pull up the food pyramid? I remember the old one. Yes. I think it's lots of wheat and
Starting point is 01:09:34 soy. I think it's horn. I think it's still garbage. Yeah. So here's my issue with, to start with my issue with food guidelines from the government. He just a little biased. He's been off. Some of the biggest lobbies in this country are lobbies that are control these massive food producers like wheat or soy or corn or dairy. And so there's going to be some influence in terms of, you know, what they're telling you, you shouldn't, shouldn't eat. That's a food circle, Doug. Yeah. And that's what they've replaced it.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Oh, they replaced the pyramid with the my plate. I think they come. Yeah. So now it shows fruits, vegetables, grains, proteins, and dairy. So now they're making all the lobbies happy. It's still allies happy. It's still. It's still crazy. Hard Chinese for sure. Yeah. If you got grains and fruits and vegetables all in your plate. Here's my other problem with this.
Starting point is 01:10:34 And this is my problem with most food recommendations for most sources. Is they completely negate the main reason why people have issues with food. It's because of the behaviors around the food. You can tell people what they shouldn't and give them all the great information in the world, but if they don't modify behaviors
Starting point is 01:10:55 and the relationships to food, good luck. Yeah, see, there's the pyramid. Oh, there it is. There's the good ol' pyramid. That doesn't look any different. Yeah. No, that's the 1992 food pyramid. Yeah, that's the one where the grains are on the bottom.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I'm still not that much different though. I get oh, I guess I guess in if you were to translate that into the plate version The plate would be a majority of the grains where it's not there. It's now vegetables. Well, I mean, it's better I can mean if we're comparing it to what the food pyramid used to be to where it is today, it's better. We're heading in the right direction. But I mean, I'm not going to get on board with the dairy and the grains portion. Okay, look, this is just, again, this is my opinion, but I think this is, pay attention to this because I think if you look at it the way I'm looking at it, it might make sense. If you look at the way the obesity epidemic, or when it really started to take off, it really coincided well with the mass production
Starting point is 01:11:51 of heavily processed foods. And heavily processed foods, I've said this a million times on the podcast, most of the science and engineering that goes into it, some science goes into making these foods have a long shelf life. Okay, that's important because food waste, I mean, you know, vegetables and fruits, for example, one of the problems they run into is, you know, food goes bad.
Starting point is 01:12:14 They have to figure out how to get there, get it there in time, how to keep it from going bad and they throw away a bunch. But if you make something and you process it and you put it in a box or a bag, the shelf life is a year. And so that, that problems that problem is kind of solved. But really most of the money that goes into heavily processed foods goes into making them as absolutely hedonistic as possible,
Starting point is 01:12:33 making them as palatable as possible. And there's way more shit that goes into this than you realize. It's not just the taste. It's also the mouth feel, the sound it makes when you crunch on it, the color, the bag, the way the bag looks, the way it's marketed, where it's placed on the shelf, the commercials, so they create this different kind of context. They've done studies where they'll take different
Starting point is 01:12:56 colors of plates and they'll have people eat the same food in one color, makes people eat more food. There's, you know, the environment that they buy it in, there's the, I remember years ago, remember when Pepsi and Coke came out with clear? Yeah. Remember that? It fucking tanks, right? It's a disaster. It tasted exactly the same.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Same with a ketchup, they made green. Green or black or whatever. Black, yeah. People found it less appetizing, even though it had the same flavor because of the taste. They like blood. Right, so most of the stuff that goes into processed foods goes into fucking with your system,
Starting point is 01:13:31 making you wanna eat more. And so they've done these studies, well, they'll give people unlimited access to whole natural foods, and then they'll get, single ingredient foods or very few ingredient foods. What I mean by that is like, it's meat, it's fruit, it's vegetables. Then they've given people access to unlimited amounts of processed foods, things that have
Starting point is 01:13:49 long ingredient lists and that come in packages and have long shelf-lifes. And there's a significant difference in the amount of food people eat when it's heavily processed. And so I think that's one of the big issues here that we're not examining is because think about it. Anybody listening right now, at some point you've tried to make your nutrition better, you've tried to eat healthier. And you had some good general information. I think most people know that calories matter
Starting point is 01:14:16 and macronutrients to an extent are important and you probably shouldn't overeat. What's the obstacle that gets in your way? Is it your lack of knowledge? Or is it you fucking, it's hard, it's behaviorally, it's hard. You want to eat more, you start eating mindlessly. That's the thing that they're ignoring
Starting point is 01:14:31 that nobody's talking about. So explain what your suggestion is here with it. Because you're talking about a visual, a plate, like what do you want labeled on that? I think they need to address the process food issue. I think they need to address the hedonistic value of foods and say to people, look, if you're trying to eat appropriate amounts of food, then you need to eat foods
Starting point is 01:14:51 that are whole and natural and not processed because it'll make it very, very difficult for, because grains, what falls under the category of grains, I could do like chips, whole grain chips or cereals or right, you know, that kind of stuff. And that's going to change how that grain is presented. There's a big difference between a potato and a potato chip or, you know, a fruit or a fruit juice. Fruit juice is also more palatable than the eating the fruit itself. I think that's what they need to tackle. I don't think these pyramids or these plates
Starting point is 01:15:27 are gonna help at all. This is where I like the whole 30. So if you like something generic, like a food pyramid or a plate like that, I thought the whole 30 did a really good job as far as keeping it simple for people, but then also addressing the processed foods. Absolutely, I think it makes a big difference.
Starting point is 01:15:45 And then the schools, they're terrible with, I think they were supposed to have vegetables, serving of vegetables, and they counted tomato sauce or ketchup as a vegetable. So like a slice of pizza covered the dairy, it covered the vegetable, and it covered the grain category. So now- So now- So now-
Starting point is 01:16:06 Somebody try and say that was a vegetable before, I just shook my head. Yeah, and then the fruit would be like a fruit cup, that was, so let me ask you guys a question. Let's say we took two groups of people, and one group of people ate fruit cups, which usually are half, like the fruit juice in there, and they're cut up, and then you had the other fruit,
Starting point is 01:16:23 the other group just had fruit with the peel on it and everything. And you told them eat as much as you want, don't worry about whatever. Which group do you think is gonna eat more calories? That's what I'm talking about. And that's what they're not addressing. And I think that's a bigger problem
Starting point is 01:16:36 than the knowledge of what's good and what's not good. Cause I don't know about you guys, but when I work with clients, there's a lot of shit that they don't know, but generally they know some stuff. Like, oh yeah, I know that's not healthy, but when I work with clients, there's a lot of shit that they don't know, but generally they know some stuff. Like, oh yeah, I know that's not healthy, but I eat it anyway. And I know I need to be eating that.
Starting point is 01:16:51 And that's, so I don't think it's necessarily like an information problem. No, it's a good point. I mean, we're already that far, right? There's a lot of people that still like get their nutrients from fast food, you know? So they're trying to figure that out. And it's like, we're trying to get them
Starting point is 01:17:04 to have these whole foods. It's a giant step. Sometimes I think, too, there's, it's information overload. Totally. There's so much counter information that it's like, what do you believe? I mean, obviously, it's part of why, you know, I mean, we, we grew the podcast that we did is just to help people with that. I think there's so much information.
Starting point is 01:17:22 You could read one book that counters the other one and they both sound so smart as they're all scientifically based, but it's like, so if you're a consumer, it's like, fuck, where do I go? What do I do? Yeah, plus look at the individual variants. So they're recommending a lower fat higher carbohydrate diet, but I know people who are far healthier and feel much better on the reverse, a higher fat, lower carbohydrate diet. So that individual variance is huge from person to person, but what's the one big problem that people have in modern societies with their food consumption? Too much. They just see too much. That's what they're not talking about. We've talked about it on the show. And of course, there's always going to be an individual variance, But in my experience, it's so, so much easier just to tell a client like, you can have almost
Starting point is 01:18:10 anything you want, just stick with whole foods. And I know that's like just a broad statement, but a majority of people won't over consume if they do that. They really won't. It's really tough to. Yeah, it is tough. It's tough to eat 3,000 calories of all whole foods. It really is. So, I mean, that was, it took me years before I figured that out, and that was just kind of like what I did with clients. It's like, listen, I'm open for you exchanging these out. Here's your general meal plan that I want you to follow. But if you go, go off of this, that's fine. Just stick with whole foods. Yeah, just not getting calories from liquids. Yeah, drinking it, like that.
Starting point is 01:18:48 It's so funny, like that was one I brought up almost with every single client I've ever had. And that was like, you know, right away, that was like a, you know, a game-changing thing the first month, you know. It's easier to consume calories in liquid form to the point where I was reading an article on, I think it was Brian Shaw, Strongman competitor. So this guy needs to consume 8,000 calories. So he's like, fuck, what do I, so you know what this guy does? He makes, and I think it's him. I hope it's that guy. It was a, if it wasn't with him, it was another Strongman. He makes these chicken shakes,
Starting point is 01:19:18 where he blends, chicken breasts, and other stuff in a blender. And he brings like eight of these shakes to work. And he's like, I can't fucking chew and eat all this food. Go, go, go. Because again, it's a way to hack the system. And to be clear, humans have been processing food ever since we started making food, cooking it as a part of processing. Adding seasoning is a part of a way to make food more palatable.
Starting point is 01:19:43 The difference is we didn't have modern science where it's almost not fair. You know what I'm saying? It's almost not fair when you have something so fast, so easy, so cheap, and they're able to combine all these different flavors and things in ways that just weren't normally possible. Good luck trying to eat the right amount
Starting point is 01:20:00 when you're consuming these types of foods. You're having, you're gonna have a tough battle. It's gonna be very, very difficult. So, and they don't talk about any of that at all. They just say, eat your grains, your fruits, whatever. And then this is broad type of, you know, I think people have the information. I just think they need to be taught.
Starting point is 01:20:14 Like, here's what works, and here's what doesn't work in terms of behaviors. Next question is from Busy2K. What do you guys think about celebrity transformations? Inspiring or dangerous? Hmm. I mean, dangerous? I don't know. I don't think most celebrity transformations disclose everything that they did. And I don't even know. That's a good one. Yeah. And then I don't
Starting point is 01:20:36 even know if any of them even align at all with what they really did. Like, this was like gastric bypass or something. I mean, typically with the celebrity transformation, it's just, it's a, it's a, it uses a marketing tool. Yeah. It's, it's no different than how they would hire somebody like me when I was competing, right? So, and I didn't know this until I got into competing that this is how this worked, but like all the magazines
Starting point is 01:20:58 and supplement companies, they hang around all the pro shows, and they pick out of the like, you know, your top 10, you know, who looks the most marketable, look great on a magazine, they find a guy like myself, they walk over and they say, hey, listen, we'd like to pay you $5,000. And we'd like to shoot an ad for our supplement or our diet or our, you know, transformation program, whatever the fuck it may be.
Starting point is 01:21:21 And they pay someone like me $5,000 to get fat. And then you just reverse the pictures. That's just so fucked up. Right. But it's like,000 to get fat and then you just reverse the pictures. That's just so fucked up. Right. But it's like, it's how, and when you do it that way, well, when you think about it from a company standpoint, it's, it's safe, right? Like, because they got the hard, yeah, you don't want to, you don't want to take a guy like
Starting point is 01:21:37 me when he's fat and out of shape and say, Hey, we want to pay you $5,000 to get into the best shape you've ever been in your life. That's hard. And you know, you're going to look like right. So what they do is they go find somebody who's already, oh, wow, look at that physique, $5,000 to get into the best shape you've ever been in your life. That's hard. And you know you're gonna look like. Right. Right. So what they do is they go find somebody who's already, oh, wow, look at that physique, look at that, well, they're marketable. That's a nice after picture.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Right. We want that guy. It's a great after picture. Go take the picture. Now go eat like shit for the next. Which is easy. Yeah, which is very easy to not fuck up, right? Don't exercise, go eat like shit.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Yeah. And then they do this. So this celebrity transformation transformation think no different. So I don't think it's inspiring or dangerous as much as it is bullshit. I mean, most of the stuff that you see out there is designed to market and sell you whatever set idea is, whether it be a supplement or the greatest transformation
Starting point is 01:22:21 or their new program or an app or whatever. So I mean, I don't see, here's why I don't like the celebrity transformation, or their new program, or an app, or whatever. So I mean, I don't see, here's why I don't like the celebrity transformation stuff. And by the way, they only exist because we keep buying their shit. So that's fine. They can, if people are reacting to it,
Starting point is 01:22:34 it's our fault that they exist. But here's why I don't like them. It's because people compare themselves to celebrities and celebrities have almost nothing in common with the average person. So what do I mean by that? Well, if you're Beyonce or you're, you know, who's the dude that played Thor in the play Thor?
Starting point is 01:22:52 Justin's man crush. Justin's man crush. Yeah, just, just, I can't believe I forgot his name. I wanna hug him. Yeah, what's the name Chris? Chris Hemsworth. Hemsworth, thank you very much. So he, it's someone like him.
Starting point is 01:23:03 So he wants to get in shape because he's going to play Thor So the movie producers or whatever the big production company goes to him and says hey, you're gonna play Thor We're gonna pay you 10 million dollars You need to get in shape in three months. Here's your personal trainer. Here's your chef And here's your stack of animal experience. Yeah, maybe the animal steroids. And your job is that. So now imagine this, imagine if you had no responsibilities, you don't have a job, you don't have to worry about your kids.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Mostly celebrities have expensive nannies that take care of the kids. You, that's all you're gonna do. We're gonna give you the trainer, the trainer's gonna live with you, half the time these trainers will live with them, follow them, then they have nutritionists. Well, yeah, you're gonna have a fucking crazy transformation. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:23:49 That is not you, that is not you at all. So comparing yourself to these people is not fair to you. I can't compare yourself to anybody's not fair, but especially not to a celebrity who's gonna have all this insane. And especially something that popped up on your Instagram feed or something that got mailed to you or popped in your email. I'm saying like half that stuff is bullshit marketing tactics. That's all it is. But imagine what do you think you could accomplish if for like, it just, you know, it doesn't, you got three months, but you don't got to do nothing but work out
Starting point is 01:24:16 and we'll give you your food. One of the things that I don't share that much, we just don't talk about it anymore that much, but when I did my fat to fit transformation and then went all the way to competing, I mean, I had set myself up in a place financially where I didn't really have to work and my entire life revolved around competing. This was a business strategy for you. Right. And so, you know, it's nice when you don't have kids, you don't really, I didn't really have a job other than working out and training. All of my decisions that I made on a day-to-day, my hardest decision I had to make is if I was doing family stuff or Katrina and I were going somewhere where I'd have to bring my meals. Other than that, everything was centered around my workout, my recovery, and making my meals
Starting point is 01:25:01 for the week. That's part of the hack of why I made as great of a transformation as I did in the short amount of time that I did was my complete life was dedicated to that. Yeah, I mean, if you look at, they have these camps that they send people to where it's like, I'm gonna go here,
Starting point is 01:25:19 it's for obesity. I'm gonna live in this camp for the next month or two. They provide with all my meals. I have structured workouts. The success rate, if we were to measure it by how much weight people lost when they went to those camps, it's incredible. It's incredible success, but if you measure their long-term success, it's terrible. People come home.
Starting point is 01:25:42 They can't integrate what they just learned because what they just learned made sense in that crazy weird environment that wasn't their real life. So they go back to their real life and they gain all the way back. It's like the biggest loser. Like they show up for this TV show. Cameras are on them to train or beat the shit out of them. That's all they're doing is losing weight. And they go back to their real life and a big percentage of them all they're doing is losing weight. Then they go back to their real life and a big percentage of them gain the way back. So it's definitely don't look at these celebrity.
Starting point is 01:26:10 Is it possible? Yes, under what circumstances, I think is what you need to ask yourself. And here's the second thing. If you ever, anytime you compare yourself to anybody, you're not doing yourself any good. If you wanna make improvements on yourself, all you need to do is be a little bit better than you were.
Starting point is 01:26:29 That's it. And think about it this way. Like if I take a laser beam and laser beams are straight, so if I shoot a laser beam, and from my end, I just move it one degree to the left, and you follow that laser beam down for 50 miles. How off center is that laser beam going to be? Potentially, it could be miles because the further down you go down that line, the more of a difference that trajectory makes. So think of it that way.
Starting point is 01:26:57 If every single day you just change your direction, a half a degree off of where you were yesterday. It's all you got to do. You're going to make huge changes in a year or two years or whatever. And it's much more of a realistic approach. And you're comparing yourself to the only person that it's fair to compare yourself to, which is yourself. Because again, you don't know all of the things that that person has gone through or what they're doing and what their life looks like and how much money they spend on people making their food and what their motivations are
Starting point is 01:27:28 and I ain't that shit. You don't know any of that stuff, so comparing yourself to those people, super not fair to yourself. And celebrities are just, celebrities are just in their own crazy world anyway. Did you guys see what Natalie Portman said about? Oh, stop.
Starting point is 01:27:41 Veganism, just yet? No, please. She said that, oh, you'll love this one. She, she's a hardcore feminist, right? And she said, oh, I connected my veganism to feminism because I realized that the milk that we get from animals comes from female animals and the eggs we get are from female chickens. And so, you know, being vegan is also, you know, good for women. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:28:08 Yeah. It's. Connecting the dots. Exactly. It's really all that. They're in their own narcissistic, crazy, weird bubble. And so I wouldn't. Yeah, I try to look at it. I'm going to take you to celebrities and their habits and all that. It's great that they
Starting point is 01:28:22 get in shape for a movie or whatever. But, or whatever, but, I'm not going to hold that into my world of working out. It doesn't make any sense for me to kind of bring that in. Well, I'm not to mention half of them don't really look like what you see, either. Yeah. A lot of them are Photoshop. 300 was all Photoshop. Make uped up. It's like at the peak of whatever their fitness and you seem in real life. And they're like, oh, fuck, they don't even look like that. Yeah, it's weak. And then lastly, of course, they know nothing about most of them. Don't know anything about fitness.
Starting point is 01:28:50 But they're free to give advice about it. Yeah, it's always, it's always great. There's a few celebrities that really make fitness. That's always been a part of their life. What's his name? Walberg. Oh, yeah. Mark Walberg.
Starting point is 01:29:03 He's a cool J. LL Cool. J. He's got a fight. He's another guy who's always been working out. The strong physique. Yeah. Dwayne Johnson. He's been doing it for a while, but most of them are foolish. So I wouldn't listen to them. Anyway, if you go to mindpumpfree.com, you can download any of our guides for free. They cost nothing. You can also find us all on social media. Instagram is our social media channel of choice. You can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin. You can find Justin at Mind Pump
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