Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1036: What To Do If The Gym Equipment You Need is Being Used, the Best Way to Resume Workouts After a Break, the Ideal Speed to Cut & MORE

Episode Date: May 22, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how to proceed with your workout when all the major equipment is taken, where to pick up after a hiatus from working out, if it is better to do a slow, more gradual cut as opposed to a shorter, more drastic “mini cut," and how body dysmorphia can sabotage our health and fitness goals. Why the guys want to get an autotune machine. (5:37) How KISS is the death of all metal. (6:50) Why time and patience are extremely important when it comes to facilitating change. Adam updates the audience on his recent testosterone levels using the Everly Well tests. (12:38) The paradox of being around a lot of people: The rise of loneliness in big societies. (22:38) The popularity of delivery services: How we now are justifying going to the store or not. (31:50) The CBD market craze and how companies like Ned stand out in the crowd. (38:40) The importance of vetting sources in the proven guilty till innocent era: Buzzfeed vs. Tony Robbins. (44:04) The underground war of information: The US vs. China tariff trade war. (52:55) #Quah question #1 – When the gym is absolutely packed and all the major equipment is taken, what do you suggest doing? Improvise using lighter weights with higher reps or choose different exercise? (58:23) #Quah question #2 – After a 2-week period of no workouts during a program (like MAPS Anabolic), is it better to continue where you left off or to start the program all over again? (1:10:46) #Quah question #3 – Is it better to do a slow, more gradual cut as opposed to a shorter, more drastic “mini cut”? (1:16:30) #Quah question #4 – Can you go in depth on what body dysmorphia is and how it can sabotage our health and fitness goals? And how it can affect our daily life as well as physical and emotional health? (1:21:48) People Mentioned Mark Manson (@markmansonnet)  Instagram Tony Robbins (@tonyrobbins)  Instagram Chris Hardwick (@hardwick)  Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned May Promotion: MAPS HIIT ½ off!! **Code “HIIT50” at checkout** Visit Everly Well for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Visit Ned for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! The Dirt | Netflix Official Site Tiny-home villages are a key part of Seattle’s homeless strategy. So why did one village lack case management for three months? Amazon Has an Incredible New Way To Fight Walmart. It's Both Brilliant and Very Sad CBD Market Could Pull In $16 Billion By 2025, Says Study Leaked Records Reveal Tony Robbins Berated Abuse Victims, And Former Followers Accuse Him Of Sexual Advances An Open Letter to BuzzFeed Editors and Board of Directors from Tony Robbins AMC Clears Chris Hardwick To Return To ‘Talking Dead’ After Sexual Assault Claims ‘Still bullish’: Beijing hits back at Trump claim that US tariffs are forcing manufacturers out of China Visit PRx Performance for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** MAPS Fitness Anabolic | Muscle Adaptation Programming - Mind Pump Mind Pump Free Resources

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Just and talked massive shit about. Bring it, kiss band. I'm a suck. Let's see what the backlash looks like. Adam shared some good news. It's been two years now, project Adam, trying to get his testosterone levels up into the normal range after he went off synthetic testosterone.

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Yeah. Can you edit? Should harmonize more. Adam's voice out of that part. Make it sound. No way. Can we do something for reals? How much does a auto-tune cost?

Oh my god. I need synthesize. No, no, no, I'm deadize. I am dead serious. I think it will be a very smart investment. If we get an auto tune, I feel like there's a tea-pain app. Dude, tell me how funny it wouldn't be hilarious to have Adam sing, but do throw it out. Yeah.

It would be so good. It would be so good, dude. I liked the little part that Eli did with Taylor when he's lip-s lip singing and then it cuts to the actual song. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then the mic screwed all up. No, I love that. That was pretty good.

No, but was that Richard Marx that saying that? I hold on. I don't, yeah, like that's just a guess. That was, do you remember, I think it was one of your favorite songs? I don't want to admit that I'm a fan. Yeah. You know, at least it's called Dickmarks, because that's his name. Oh, because it's short for Richard.

Yeah, that's not that special. I saw the people that didn't get your original joke on the, when you referenced kiss on your IG. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the people that were like, they're pissed, like I'm a fan of kiss. Yeah, I'm like, I don't fucking like kiss, they're terrible. Wait, it's a terrible, terrible man.

You don't like kiss? Terrible. Why? What? Well, real good, Role, and fucking repeated a million times. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, that's all I got. That's the second one. Yeah.

Fucking kiss. You know, there were the first, they were one of the first bands to figure out how to fucking really make money through merchandising and marketing. They were one of the first. Yeah, I think that surprised me at all. They were brilliant.

That's why I think everybody doesn't like them. Everybody, so here's the thing with Kiss. It's like new kids on the block. Okay, just wait. It's just like Alice, who's for me. Everybody loved them. Kiss was the shit. Everybody liked them at first.

They had the best concerts, fucking fireworks and costumes. It was all about the pageantry. Right, and then because they just oversaturated everybody, then it became cool to not like them. And then it became cool to like them again. Just like new kids on the block. Remember new kids on the block?

Everybody loved them and then it was like, if you liked them, you were a nerd. And then now they fucking sell out stadiums because we're all older. I loved it because they were like, the ones that were making fun of disco at the time, and then they put out a disco album. What?

Brilliant. Yeah. I don't know, man. Look how dairy. Gene Simmons is fucking, I think he's a maniac. I think he's... Aren't they all really smart guys too? The business.

The business smart. That's what I mean. Yeah. Bro, they have a fucking huge audience. I'm surprised. They were one of those bands that were like, I don't think they was Harvard, but all of them were all like,

all went to a prestigious college, didn't they? I don't know. Looked it up, Doug. I think they did. I don't consider Kiss like one of the best rock bands of all time for sure, but I do appreciate. I mean, I like again, I recognize their concerts like what they provided people. That was everything, right?

They had the pirate techniques. They had the crazy spacesuits. They had the kiss army, dude. Yeah, they had all the the the the schlocky shit. You know, they're going to throw out there to like sell their music that's dog shit Yeah, man, it's like hold on so let me ask you ask pick let me ask you this So you don't like their music because their songs are typically like three or four chords and it repeats over and over again It's not that super creative. It's not creative. It's just like do you cure like lame? Do you like the remones?

I love the remones. Okay, so the remones are fucking worse with that. Yeah, the remones are like two chords lame. Do you like the remones? I love the remones. Okay, so the remones are fucking worse with that. The remones are like two chords. No, you're right. It's like, na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. The whole song. And there's like three lyrics. And then you're done.

I mean, that's a valid point. I still like the most. So why do they get a pass, but not kiss? Yeah, because for me, it's just like, it's, I guess it's less authentic. Like, I feel like the Ramones came out there like, yeah, we fucking suck, you know? And, you know, it's like punk rock that they suck, you know?

And then they just like went with it. And then it became like anthems versus kisses like all about the show. And we're so awesome, we're so awesome, we're so awesome. No, your music sucks. Oh, admit it, admit that your music sucks. Boy, we're so awesome, no, you're music sucks. Oh, it made it admit that you're music sucks. Boy, you're gonna, I'm sure you get some fucking low back. I hope so, I don't think so.

I don't think so, he got more blowback on his Instagram for referencing Mind Pump like Kiss, but what the audience didn't understand was Justin was making fun of us by referencing Kiss on a people's possibly. People thought he was bragging like this. You know what it is? Justin has a lot of hardcore. He does, that's, he was good was getting. He was getting. Yeah, that's exactly what he was getting

He was getting jabs from other musicians. Yeah, because I love yeah, I love metal and I can go down the rabbit hole Of like the craziest weirdest genre, but like yeah kiss for me is just like that's the death of all men So then you don't lie. So then what do you think of like, what's that fuck, I can't remember? What was that documentary? We just watched Netflix. No, no, no. Queens amazing. Queens amazing.

What was that documentary that was just on Netflix? We were talking about it. Nikki Six, the... Oh, Molly Crew. Molly Crew. Yeah, well, I mean, they're just fun. I don't know, I feel like they're in it for like, the partying and the chicks.

You know, they're like very honest about that and that's that's fine I do kiss the gene Simmons. I just like it bro. Sometimes you just don't like something. Yeah, there's no like maybe it's me All right, maybe it's me's I don't know I don't think I'm alone at their level to the makeup. Yeah, the makeup That was the thing that whole there was a whole period much, you know, and rock has been like this for a long time Or there's the theatrical aspect of it the fucking you know, I'm out there and for a second there It was cool to put on to dress up, you know, something weird and different and I mean Alice Cooper Like Alice Cooper was there. I mean then Marilyn Manson came after that. Yeah, see I liked Alice Cooper a little bit more

But his music wasn't the greatest either. When you go back and listen to it, it's just like, ugh, you know, that whole creepy song about like being like, like being fascinating with 17-year-old girls. Oh, yeah. Do rock and roll's weird like that. They had a lot of those songs back there. A lot, dude. Weird like, hey now. Wouldn't be able to make it today. Yeah. It would not make it today. It's called Statutory. Yeah. And you know what else would, who would make it? We just talked about the Ramones. No way in hell the Ramones would have gotten far

during the video era. There's no way. They're just, they don't look like... Especially with 4K now. Yeah, it wouldn't have worked. But I'm a big fan of the Ramones. I appreciate kids. I appreciate kids for what they did. I wouldn't say that they're one of the best rock. I appreciate KISS. Yeah, Ramon's a lot. I appreciate KISS for what they did.

I wouldn't say that they're one of the best rock bands, but anyway. Adam, I want to ask you about your you hate mail come my way. Yeah, KISS Army attack. Adam, you had commented on a recent podcast and I purposely did not ask too much details because I wanted to save it for this episode

about your testosterone levels. Oh, nice transition to my nuts, huh? You just did another one. This a nice transition to my nuts. That's weird. Yeah, it is. You're a two-returned makes it, too. Yeah, yeah.

But anyway, what's the deal? Holy and nerd would you like correct me like that with that comment? Yeah, look at our nerds. I have me like that with that comment. Yeah. Look at her. I have to. Nice. Yeah. Anyway, what's the deal with that you mentioned the last one of our last podcasts that you're

testosterone now is in the normal. Is it used to be in the low average? Now it's in the middle. Yeah. It was in the, it was the, the very, very bottom. I think it was like one point on the, the, everything well scoring scale. It was like one point on, from being low. scale, it was like one point from being low, right? So I was in the normal range.

Now I'm about almost halfway through there. So it's definitely increased. And I've been getting, I posted it on my Instagram stories right after I took the Everly Well test. And I got a ton of people asking me, you know, what am I doing differently? And I'm really not doing anything that much different than what I've been doing for the last year and a half,

almost two years now. And I think it's just taking time. Yes, you're doing everything right, but then the big factor is time. And people, this is a good lesson for people to understand, because I think people will apply and do everything right. And they'll say, okay, I'm doing everything right, but I'm not getting all the results I want right now.

And I'm like, okay, you're forgetting about the most important factor, which is time and patience. Right, and that's, talk about testing that because I think I was expressing you guys off air that if this latest, every well test came back and I was the same or lower, I was gonna get back on my hormone replacement therapy because it was just like, man, it had been well over a year.

I mean, I'm going, October will be two years for me. So what are we in right now? So that's a few months away from, so over a year and a half, almost two years that I've been chipping away at this. And really the last three everly well-tests have been like exact same number consistent consistent. And those were like three months, six months in between

each one, and I hadn't seen any real progress. And it's been everything. Everything from the Jew of light to the sauna, to training for more towards health, than performance or look. You know, Good diet. Diet's been balanced.

Like I'm not running like a keto diet or anything like that. I've got a nice good balance of carbs, protein, and fat. You know, I've even introduced a little bit of like cardiovascular training, like training with my swimming and my rowing. You know, really trying to improve my sleep. So it's been a, it it's been a bunch of things

that I've been doing for a really long time. And overall, all that stuff is just to make you healthier. Right, that's it. And so now, at least now, it's got me actually more excited to kind of keep going because I literally have all of my testosterone set. Like I have a kit waiting at home that's got all my stack ready to go to get back on

and do all that. And I was literally like this close to getting started again and then got that back and saw that I had finally made an increase. So now I'm like kind of motivated again to see that. Well, here's a thing like a Couple things that people need to understand and I know you considered this which is why you were so patient But this is the important thing to understand is that Adam was on synthetic testosterone

either relatively high doses for competing or replacement doses for in between and replacement doses in between and nonstop for like what five six years? Yeah. So five or six years, four or five or six years, your body wasn't really producing a lot or any of its own testosterone. And so of course when you go off and you do all the right things, it's still going to take time for your body to really get that signal. And initially it did.

Initially it did get the signal, which is why your testosterone went from zero to low normal. Like initially that's the initial signal. But then staying there long enough and still lifting weights, still eating rights, still getting good sleep, still sending the other signals to the body and the fact that the body's not getting

the synthetic testosterone signal, the body eventually reaches a healthier level. Now, I surmise, here's my thing, my bet. My bet is, if this is gonna keep happening, I think within the next year or two, if you stay off, your testosterone levels will go up to the upper average range. That's just my opinion. I think it'll continue. If you keep doing what you're doing, it'll continue to move up just because you're a healthy person.

You eat good, you exercise regularly, you're focusing on your sleep. And for men, a healthy male in your age group, testosterone levels will be fine. They don't really start to get hammered down low for a real long time. I had clients in their 60s and 70s who were very fit and very healthy for years. I had one guy I trained, I'd cheat training with me

for four years, but before that, the guy worked out for the previous 30 years consistently like and he was really, really healthy. He could get his testosterone levels checked, and he was like, and these are the ranges that you'll get from the doctor with a blood test. The guy's testosterone was within the 700s, which is high for the 20-year-old male. And that's the male body.

We don't go through menopause like women do, so I surmise that. And the way you did it is ideal. This is my recommendation to people is that test. If you want to see what's affecting your antistosterone for men is a nice gauge of overall health. It's not perfect. Okay. So it's not the only gauge. But it's a nice general gauge. If your testosterone levels are going down, then you can pretty safely assume that something's not right, something's off. If your testosterone levels are going down, then you can pretty safely assume that something's not right, something's off.

If your testosterone levels start to go up, you can pretty safely assume that things are on the right track. Yeah, I just actually sent mine off yesterday. So it'll be interesting to see because what I had mentioned before about sleep patterns and stuff, my quality of sleep has increased. So I'm hoping that even through that process, I've been able to increase the levels a bit

and then keep check on that and see what I'm doing. And make sure I'm getting propped. That's the thing right there. So just testosterone test on Eveliwell is 59 bucks, so it's super cheap. It's like less it's as much as like two year pre workout supplements that are worthless. So my my my advice and this is what you did at them is to test your testosterone roughly every quarter. Yeah, I already have my next one lined up. Exactly. It's already it's in my bedroom or bathroom

right now that just waiting for it. So that's four tests a year. You have it set up. Yeah. And in between because I give you enough time, right? That's three months where you can make or bathroom right now that just waiting for it. So that's four tests a year, you have it set up. Yeah. And in between, because that gives you enough time, right? That's three months where you can make tweaks and then see how your body responds. You figure four tests at 50 bucks, few hundred bucks, and it's all in your hands. You don't have to go to the doctor, you send it in,

and what are... Well, I'm excited to see what'll happen now, and now that I've finally seen some sort of real positive response from all the work that I finally have seen some sort of real positive response from all the work that I've been doing for last one. But man, I tell you what, I, so now is that a deterrent knowing how long it took you to get back to normal? Does that, is that a deterrent to getting back on?

Like, fuck, if I go back on and if I ever want to go off again. Yeah, I know, definitely. That's a deterrent. And it's also deterrent just knowing that, oh, it's possible that I can keep going. Yeah. There, for a long time there, that I was starting to lose hope, which is where I totally understand somebody going through this because I like to think that I have pretty good mental discipline when it comes to something like this. So two years is a long way?

It is a fucking long time, dude. It's a very long time. And it's a long time when you're doing a lot of things to work towards it. Like, and I'm gonna, most people wouldn't have lasted that long. Yeah, maybe honest with you. If it wasn't you, I don't know, I don't know.

It's, and the hardest part, and I think I've shared this with you off-air, is the motivation, that's what's killing me more than anything else, is I know what it's like to have high levels of test Ostrone and then also to be in a good really normal high range. And the the motivation to train that comes with that is completely different than the way I feel now. It's like every time I go to the gym, it's not every time most of the time now that I go to the gym, it's like this, I have to have this self-talk.

You gotta get in there, you gotta do these things. You need to do this for you. It's important, it's important. Versus, I mean, I was the guy who, forever, if I used to fall asleep thinking about my workout the next day. It's just not as fun. Yeah, it's exactly, it's not as fun.

It doesn't feel as, I don't get the crazy pumps from it. I don't get the response. I mean, when I am dialed nutritionally training and my testosterone levels are high, it's like day after day, I'm seeing little subtle changes. I'm in making improvements where this is like, I could go weeks of consistency with the diet and training and everything and see very minimal physical

change, which that's, it can be demoralizing for sure. But it's like when Superman, when he remember when that was a part two, where he got his powers taken away. You hear that? I don't know. I was in a big Superman. Oh, you were in a big Superman? Was Reeves?

Oh, yeah. Chris was. The old one. Chris of Reeves. Yeah. Where he goes in the chamber and it take away his powers. then he goes to the bar and some he's standing up for for against some big dude. Yeah, but he's like, he's like, and he gets his ass kicked.

Fuck, I'm not super. Oh, man, it's not working. Speaking of movies, you know what movie I watched for the first time last night? Well, the great Gatsby. Oh, good movie. Oh, Leonardo DiCaprio. Yeah, they did. Did you read that book in high school?

Never read it. Oh, you didn't read that. I had no idea. Yeah, we had that. Yeah, they did. Did you read that book in high school? Never read it. Oh, you didn't read that. I had no idea. We had to story that. Yeah, that was mandatory. Was that it was the movie depict, like, that cover the book well? Yeah, I thought they did a really good job in that movie.

Yeah. Yeah, I thought they did really good. There was one quote in the movie that, and I love it when this happens. Sometimes I'll watch TV or a movie or read something and then it sparks a thought process. I actually paused the movie and thought and sat there thinking for like 15 minutes.

One of the characters in there said, I love big parties because they're so intimate. And this was a huge party, Gatsby had thrown a huge party, so there's literally hundreds of people at his house. And she's like, I love big parties because they're so intimate, there's no privacy at small parties.

And at first I'm like, well, that sounds silly. Like what do you mean intimate in a big party? And I thought about it. I'm like, no, it's actually true. When you're at a small party, you can't get away and be intimate with one person or two people because there's only 10 people there. So everybody's just kind of a manager.

With as a big party, you can kind of break off and do your own thing. So that got me thinking about a lot about the paradox of being around a lot of people. And so later that day, Jessica and I went to the mall. And we were walking around in the mall because it was raining, which is weird. The weather right now is really weird.

But anyway, it was raining and the mall was packed. And I'm looking at all these people after having thought about what I, that quote on the great Gatsby. And I'm realizing that people are so lonely yet we're around so many different people. Like you're around all these different people, your tons of people are talking to you and connect with, but you're by yourself.

Because there's so many people that it actually makes it easier to be alone. Do you feel like social media is exaggerating that? I feel like the world has become so big, or not I should say, the world has felt now so small in the sense that we're connected to so many people, but the paradox of that is, it makes it easier to be lonely and alone.

For example, if we didn't have telephones, if we didn't have internet, you would, for sure, be connected to your neighbors and your neighborhood. Know what's going on, you talk to people, but because we're so connected to so many people, and there's so much stuff that's out there, we feel lonely in our busy-ass cities. I'm surrounded by all these people,

but I feel all by, I go to them all, and I'm by myself at them all around all these different people. It was an interesting thought, and so it's part of, I think, the reason why we're seeing loneliness being one of the number one problems in modern societies, and it's very rarely a problem in societies that are less populated and less advanced. Have you seen those little,

you just reminded me of something I read the other day of these little communities that their building, Seattle has one, this is, and I forget the name of them. I'm sure somebody will, or a forum will tell me, but they're like000 square foot houses, and they build them in these little molecule homes. Kind of like that, but that's not the name

of these communities, it's something else. And they build them in these beautiful areas. They pick right at the edge of this forest. And I think it's only like a total of, I wanna say 15 houses, 15 1,000 square houses, and then it has a, and they're designed to wear, I mean, the each house. Shoe box, right?

Yeah, totally. It's like a total shoe box right in the center is this like courtyard area, that's a common area. And then they have like another sitting common area. But it's really designed to build this community. And there's like a little vegetable garden everybody works on. It's conducive to connecting with people.

Yeah, exactly. That's my point. That's kind of the idea behind it is less stuff, less big, house with a small, small, minimalist type of lifestyle. I'm telling you, we are going to reach a point where we're going to get everything we think we want and then we're going to realize,

fuck, this is not what I actually wanted. My dad used to tell me that when I was a kid, my dad would tell stories about how he grew up, and half the time I used to think he was full of shit because my dad was poor. I mean, he was dirt poor. Nine years old, my dad left school and had to work because otherwise they didn't have enough money for shit.

My dad would, he slept in a bed shared with all his siblings and they'd sleep head to foot. Like my dad used to get angry because his brother would kick his face and he'd tell me stories. Oh man. I mean, he'd tell me all these stories. And you know, tell me stories about how like there was this one family who got a TV and all the kids would like huddle around

outside to try and peek through the window to see if they could watch the guys TV and then every once in a while the guy would close the drapes to be an asshole and the kids would get. So he'd tell me at these stories and be like, fuck that sucks. But then he would tell me like, he'd say, you know, we go here in America, we have all these big houses. He goes, you have your own room, your sisters have their own room, your brother has their own room, we have a big kitchen. And he goes, and that means we're all alone. And I'd be like, what do you mean? He goes, when I was a kid, he goes, my house was two rooms. And we didn't have a lot of shit.

And so we were always together, always hanging out together, always connected. He goes, it was much better back then. And when I was a kid, he said, I think that's not better. You guys were poor. You had your bathrooms outside. You guys didn't have a phone.

I mean, personal space. My grandparents didn't get a phone until my dad was like in his 30s. You know, he used to have to schedule phone calls to talk to his parents. His parents just have to go to a neighbor's house and one o'clock, sitting on the phone. But I could see where there's truth in what he says.

And I swore to God, man, I think we're heading towards a direction where we're gonna start to do shit. Like what you're just talking about, Adam, where they're designing like, maybe 20 years ago, nobody would, that would be silly. Nobody building 1000 square foot or 500 square foot homes. Yeah, who's gonna want this? Yeah, everybody wants a 5000 square foot home.

But I think people are starting to realize what's, like, oh, I got enough, and what's really important is connecting, you know, what's important. That's an interesting thought, yeah, because it's definitely the physical mess of like, hanging out with people in person is so much different experience.

Dude, and they keep trying to replicate that virtually, and it's like, I just don't know if they could ever do it. No, there's a difference, and there's subtleties in communication and contact with a person in person that we have yet to be able to put into words. You know, how many times have you heard someone say, oh, that guy's got great energy, or that girl's got great energy, that girl's got great energy,

or I feel the tension in the room. You know, the best explanation we have for that in science, of course, you have the esoteric people who talk about, you know, the mystical energies and shit like that, which whatever, that's fine. Science, the best explanation they have is that your brain is getting so many millions of bits of information every second.

You are only made aware of a tiny, tiny fraction, but that doesn't mean your brain isn't processing all that information. And so it's picking up so many subtle pieces of bits of information and cues, and then it's creating a feeling for you like tension. And so you're not aware of why you feel tense in this room, but your brain is processing all the subtle movements and inflections and voice and smells and all these different things.

So your brain's like, hey, we should feel tense right now. Or hey, energy's good. When you meet somebody like, I just like that guy. Well, why? I don't know. I just think I like him. So trying to figure that out, I mean, we can't, we don't know what to look for.

It's my point. So until we know what to look for, I don't think we're gonna be able to figure that out. I mean, I've heard that, I mean, we can't, we don't know what to look for. It's my point. So until we know what to look for, I don't think we're gonna be able to figure that out. I mean, I've heard that, you know, some of these programs that they've started to launch for VR, like one of them was, like, basically where it has you stand, like, on something, and it's like, it emulates you, like, you're on a ledge,

and you start to really feel this panic and fear that you're gonna fall. And it's like, they said that it's like, when the first times you to really feel this panic and fear that you're gonna fall. And it's like, they said that it's like, when the first time you actually really feel, like this exhilarating, like primal feeling of fear that you're gonna fall, like it's the first time they've been able to replicate that. So it's interesting to me.

Why would you wanna do that for? I don't know, but they want that experience in a virtual form. That's so funny. Probably because we want to experience shit without what we pursue. The consequences, right? Yeah, there you go, exactly. That's crazy.

Well, here's, you know what? That brings me to another thought that I had was that we think we know all the consequences or effects of an action, but we don't really know all of the consequences and actions. So I'll give you guys a good example. Let's say people could do any crime that they wanted to and be guaranteed that they would never, ever, ever get caught. I think you would have a lot of people who would perceive it as being side effect free,

consequence free, and they would do a lot of crazy shit. Maybe murder, rob, steal, but I think they would also, they would quickly realize, hopefully over time, that there are still effects and consequences, just because you're not getting caught, doesn't mean you're not gonna have these consequences of behaving in a particular way. When you guys think the studies are gonna come out as far as consequences on all these like delivery services So this weekend it was all rainy right bad weather. Yeah, and I think I think my or rings that I took like

700 steps like total Like we literally I mean I was sick too, right? So you know to give myself a little bit of a break here But playoffs and everything else, but yeah, right? So, you know, to give myself a little bit of a break here. But- You can play off and everything else. But, yeah, right? And I was watching sports. So it was a good weekend to be hold up. But what I thought was, so we had Costco, Safeway,

and Nick the Greek, right? So everything delivered to our house. Wow. So Costco, you know, rang our doorbell like noon, you know, dropped off all our Costco stuff, then income Safeway, Safeway drops all of our Safeway stuff off, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, to drive up the fuck right you know what I'm saying? So it's like you do the you do the no brainer. Yeah, especially on a day like that You know, it's yeah, I think it cost us totally like six dollars extra and services maybe combined all three of them Maybe 12 bucks or whatever Worth of you know, and you were in your typical is you know

Adam wears when he's at home being like when you're lounging around at home people were like their sweats or whatever Adam just wears a shirt No pants, no pants. No pants, no pants. That's my look. It's like a, it's like a, it's like a, it's like a, it's like a, it's like a nightgown, except it's too small. Yeah, I mean, I don't need that visual style. You're just too far.

But you know, I mean, you just see bottom. I think we're gonna see, I, I, I so, if one of the times how funny is this? So one of the times this is how popular it's getting though. I went out and this guy pulls up and he didn't speak the best in the country. And it's like, hey, hey, she goes safeways here. And could you go run down?

I mean, and we always try and meet them outside because otherwise the boys go crazy. And they start barking and want to, you know, bite someone's head off. Always freaks out. People dropping off shit. So she's like, could you go right out there? I just saw a safe way pull up. So I go out and the guy that was pulling up, he was confirming the address to me, but he had really broken English.

And so I didn't understand him. I was just, yeah, yeah. And I start taking these bags. Yeah, I was just, somebody else's shit. He's walking up the stairs and he's like, looking at my address and he's like, no, no, no. I'm like, oh, this is, yeah, 30, 36.

And he's like, yeah, no, 30, 38. And I'm like, oh, sorry. And so, but that's how popular it's getting the, at the same time, I'm getting stuff as somebody else and you're starting to see this happen more and more. And again, to your point, Sal, like, such an awesome service, right?

I'm so happy to have it. But, you know, that stuff starts to add up. You know, the grocery shopping is actually one of my favorite things to create activity on the weekend. You know, I actually, I'm the guy who, I know most guys hate to go shopping with their wife or their partner. I actually opt to go a lot of times Katrina

because it's a quick, easy way for me to get two to three thousand steps And I can have a conversation with her. We only have great conversation while we shop, you know and a grocery store if you just not with kids Yeah, oh my god. Yeah, I get that that's it. Well, that's a that's a way to practice being present Let me tell you great you go to the grocery store if you just sit there and just observe and and slow the process down especially the vegetable and fruit section, and it's a very vibrant, colorful, kind of beautiful place to be. Yeah.

Yeah. It is. It's a lot of cucumbers. Yeah, that's a cucumber and eggplant. Yeah, that's a lot of cucumber and eggplant. Yeah, that's a lot of cucumber and eggplant. Yeah, that's a lot of cucumber and eggplant. Yeah, that's a lot of cucumber and eggplant.

That's a lot of cucumber and eggplant. Yeah, that's a lot of cucumber and eggplant. Yeah, that's a lot of cucumber and eggplant. Yeah, that's a lot of cucumber and eggplant. Yeah, that's a lot of cucumber and eggplant. Yeah, that's a lot of cucumber and eggplant. Yeah, that's a lot of cucumber and eggplant. Yeah, that's a lot of cucumber and eggplant. Yeah, that's a lot of cucumber and eggplant. there. But I like you got all these phallic vegetables. What do we eat? Banana, there are cucumbers and eggplant. That's a weird dinner. And pickles. I don't get this. What about the protein? Oh, sausage. So speaking to those services, you guys see,

and I tell you what, man, this is why I, when we brought up Uber the other day, why I'm not a big fan of Uber as a stock right now. One of the other things that Uber is counting on aside from their self-automatic cars to meet their, you know, what they've been evaluated as, but also their Uber Eats. They're counting on Uber Eats to dominate the space to take over.

And Amazon just swooped in and picked up on a company called Deliverco, which is like the biggest food delivery service in London. And they outbid Uber on that and snatch that up. So you know that's not good. So now they're going to make them international. They were just in London before that. Oh my God. So look out, Amazon making their way

into the food delivery service like Uber and... It's so competitive on Lord Ash. Yeah, no, it's fun. I mean, as a consumer, it's really fun. You know what's gonna happen at some point if there's enough competition, is it'll be, mark my words, you'll have companies try to kill each other.

It'll be cheaper to have it delivered to your house than it will be to drive. It's... Bro, it's already there. That's why I just said, I mean, literally, companies try to kill each other. It'll be cheaper to have it delivered to your house than it will be to drive. And buy it at the grocery store. Bro, it's already there. That's why I just said, I mean, literally, I mean, Safeway's not that far and it's an exaggeration to say that my truck would take six dollars a gas to get there.

But it most certainly would take a couple bucks. It would take a couple bucks to get to the, get there and come out and then your time. It's like, when you, when you do the math on it, it's like, it's actually kind of hard to justify it. The only, the way I justify it is like, it's good for me to get the activity. That's so awesome. That's how crazy it's gotten.

It's like, I definitely don't not do it because the cost, the cost to me is a no-brainer. It's, I actually opt to do it most of the time because I want to get out. It's a good time for Katrina and I to get out together, to walk, to talk, to do that, to get activity. But if it was purely a costing, it's already gotten to the point now where it makes almost more sense just to have it. I mean, just wait until they start to figure out that they can even market to you with it.

We'll deliver your groceries and then when you get them, oh, here's a free bag of samples. Here's a free bag. And on top of it, so one thing that grocery stores did a while ago, not a huge long time ago, but a while ago that was really helped grocery stores make a lot more money, was they gave you these membership cards. So like for saving on deal, so like a safe way card or a, you know, lucky card or whatever, and you type it in and you get a discount. Reality what they're doing is they're trying to track your purchasing habits so that they know what people want, what they don't want, what they're selling you, that's a new level

when you buy things online. Whole new level. Like now they'll be able to market to you in ways that wasn't possible. That's what I really liked about that one show that we watched like a few episodes and I told you I thought you would really like it. There was the one where the guy, where it's just your being able to market to you becomes more valuable than money that you can opt to not pay for something to listen to someone market to you for five or ten minutes.

That's becoming, we're getting to that point now, it's pretty interesting to watch how that starts to get integrated. Speaking of markets, I've been getting a ton of DMs out and I'm gonna defer to you because I feel like you read more on the CBD markets and what's going on with that. Everyone keeps asking me, what's stocking my invested in and what do you think about that market

and you tend to follow that more than I do. Yeah, so with the CBD market actually pulled up an article that was put out recently, this is like this week. And this is from Forbes Magazine, okay? The CBD market could reach about $20 billion by 2024. So in the next five years, they expected to hit $20 billion. And this is crazy because CBD was non-existent,

almost non-existent, I should say, about five years ago. Now, I personally think that there's a lot of interest in CBD, and I think there are some potential applications. In particular, I think CBD and the company of choice that I work with is Ned, and I'll tell you why in a second. But the reason why I think, the things that I think CBD applies to are things like anxiety. I think as an anzeolithic, the anecdotes that come back from the benefits of CBD are most positive with that.

Like people are like, I'm anxious, it helps me calm my nerves or whatever, increases in socialability. So not that it's like a party drug like alcohol, but if you're an anxious person in public, oftentimes that that makes you feel less social. So a lot of people are like, Oh, CBD helps me feel more social, probably from the ANZO, LITIC properties. And then from the systemic, the anti-inflammatory systemic effects, being that CBD seems to help the body regulate its own inflammatory process, which is good because traditional anti-inflammatory drugs, like NSAIDs, right? Ibuprofen, for example, or naproxen, which is found in a leave, for example, those hammer down inflammation

and they're indiscriminate. It doesn't go from, it doesn't take you to a good healthy level of inflammation, is it just brings it all down. You need to have a certain level of inflammation in the body to be healthy. Inflammation is what signals the body to repair, build build studies will show that athletes who take lots of traditional anti-inflammatory drugs have less muscle growth having increases in tendon and ligament tears over long periods of time CBD is different in the sense that it seems to help the body regulate its own

inflammatory system so if you're if your natural inflammatory system is a little bit off, because a lack of sleep poor diet, whatever, CBD helps your body bring it into a normal range. Doesn't hammer it down, brings it into a normal range. I could see where that is something that is beneficial for CBD, where I don't necessarily see CBD doing a lot of things is how it's being marketed everywhere else. Crazy. Fucking fat loss and beauty. You know, beauty, rub this on your fucking on your face and drink water. Murderers and this and that.

Yeah, like I don't see, I think they're just hopping on the CBD train. And because it's so, because it's, you know, pixie dusting it everywhere. Yeah, and it reminds, it's like, oh, weed is becoming legal. What's the thing I can take that's not, you're gonna make me hot? Well, it's interesting you bring it up because Courtney and I actually spent the weekend focused on restoration and really getting away

and getting massages and recuperating. And so we had like a couple's massage. And one of the options there I was looking was actually using CBD oil like within the process of that. I thought that was interesting. Obviously, of course, that's like just another thing that I think they're trying to kind of highlight that it's a popular thing. Now, I could see value. Yeah, I could see value.

You take in your Ned drops before you go into a massage. I could totally see the value. Yes, yes, yes. And so, and here's the other thing because the market's exploding, it's being flooded with marketers who are marketing their products, is having CBD, but here's the problem. Real CBD at the efficacious doses is actually quite rare. And this is based off of studies, like those independent researchers will go and test five different companies that say they have CBD

in their products and they'll find that none of them have CBD or they have a very little amount or they have other shit in it just like with other supplements you know it's just not very so what you want is you want a company that's going to provide you with independent lab results to show you specifically yes our product contains efficacious amounts of of cannabinoids that's the other thing too. CBD by itself is not as effective as when it's- Full spectrum. Yeah, when it's combined with other cannabinoids and terpenes

from the plant, scientists call this the entourage effect. Ned is not a CBD oil. It's a hemp full spectrum cannabinoid hemp oil. So it's got all the cannabinoids in there besides, you know, a THC or at least low enough doses of THC to where it's legal. So, but it fucked $20 billion. That's crazy. Yeah, and it went from nowhere.

I came out of nowhere. It's the gold rush of CBD. It's the green rush. Green rush. That's exactly what it is. What do you guys think of all the Tony Robbins news, man? Yeah. So inform us.

Like, what? So it came out that people, like, what happened in terms of like the people that were like complaining that it said that it, first of all, I guess it was like Buzzfeed 20, 20 to 30 years ago, this had happened that he was inappropriate with some employees that he berated somebody else like. And the reason why I wanted to bring it up was, first of all, I'm a big Tony Robbins fan. I think what he's contributing to society as a whole is mostly positive and amazing. And many people that I know that have experienced him in person or read his books or been around him

has had nothing but amazing things to say about him as an individual and then outcomes this article that completely just drags his name through the mud and you know, I read it and It was like man this my first reaction my first reaction into it is like, I always wanna hear the other side of the story, no matter what. And but I was like man, that's too bad. That's unfortunate for a guy who's done so good, so much good to have something like this happen and my buddies were sharing it.

And they reverted right away to the kind of piling on of it is like, oh, it just, it just shows you that, you know, all these people that are famous, this and that, they're fucking corrupt and dead and like bad. Did you see the block, the article he wrote? He wrote, like directed towards, but he meets some good points in there. It was excellent. I thought, and that's why I wanted to bring it up now was because, and now, and I think

you put it in your story, the Buzzfeed. I did. Yeah. So you shared it in your story, and then hopefully. Yeah, so you shared it in your story, and then hopefully Jack, you will link it in the show notes for those that want to read, but he wrote a response to that, and then even linked some of the people that were,

I think, quoted in the original article. I didn't know that Buzzfeed was actually ranked, I think 2017, the least reliable source. That's so frustrating when the sources, like they don't even vet the sources like they used to, like journalists, like they've just put it out what's gonna get them. Well, it's, and with accusations like this,

you gotta be, as a reporter, I would think you need to be, today it's so different, right? They don't give a shit anymore. They just, okay, what's gonna get clicks and headlines? Exactly, I don't think they, I don't think it was a lack of vetting sources. I think it was malicious in intent, knowing that it would be, I mean, you're talking about one of the most famous people right now.

I mean, here's a guy that's been a self-help mega star for 40 years. I mean, the guy has, he's been star for 40 years. I mean, the guy has, he's been at least 40 years, right, Doug, for Tony Robbins, been crushing. 30 or 40 years. Yeah, so decades. And he has advised some of the world's greatest leaders. He's been in front of hundreds of thousands

or millions of people now cumulatively. He used to sell videos that he sold to. So through all the decades of work that he's doing, this guy's been relatively impeccable in terms of, you know, how he's done, how people have interacted with him and all that stuff. And so now you have BuzzFeed coming out and saying, hey, 20, 30 years ago or 20 years ago,

here's a few things that he did that were, you know, whatever, which, okay, maybe they have a story, but I hope that they really were careful about vetting it because we live in a time now where it's like guilty until proven innocence, not the other way around anymore. Yeah, you know? It's kind of, well, so I remember when it was Chris Hardwick,

I don't know if you guys remember when he got accused of, it was Chris Hardwick, I don't know if you guys remember when he got accused of it was during the whole Me Too drive. Like his girlfriend had this vendetta to basically drag his name through the mud and he got fired from his job. He got fired from all these other shows. He was on like, he had probably like 10 or 12 shows that he was running at one time. And they just before even going through the process

of, they just cut them, completely. And it was just, to me, immediately just red flags. And I'm not like, you know, obviously, if somebody was wronged, and they went through the process of being judged and tried for their crimes, like that's everything,, take them down. But, you know, if you didn't do the process of even going, looking into it from both perspectives,

like that's where I'm saying, well, it's unfortunate. And I don't remember who was speaking to this point, but the, to your point, Sal, that we live in this time now of your guilty until proven innocent, is something like that that just goes out like Contoni wrong. It's like no matter how false or wrong

or the other side of the story, he's fucked no matter what because there's it furnishes his name. Well, there's gonna be millions of people that won't read any for further beyond that, that automatically will make their judgment from that one one reading and that's all they needed to tip that like,

ah, I knew you couldn't be that awesome. I knew they're, you know, fuck him. You know what I'm saying? And then won't do any more research. We'll go about their day, not think twice about it. And now they have this image of him. And then if he's ever talked about from that person. And there's gotta be, when you talk about the millions

of people that read that article, there's gotta be a percentage of those people that immediately is, he's tarnished. Well, the way that read that article, there's got to be a percentage of those people that immediately he's tarnished. That's unfortunate. The way I look at it is that if somebody, if somebody says, oh, you know, makes an accusation, you gotta listen to him. And then don't make him feel like shit for accusing.

No. And then the person who got accused, you gotta also don't assume that they're automatically guilty But obviously keep your eyes open and get your case together and then if it turns out that the accuser was being honest take that Person down if the accuser turns out that they were they had ulterior motives and they were lying take that person down But until you know Be objective because a you don't want victims to be afraid Take that person down, but until you know, be objective

because, hey, you don't want victims to be afraid. You don't want victims to be afraid of coming forward because they feel like they're gonna attack. That's what's happening about it. I hate the idea of anything like that, though, even taking someone down who's wrong, right? So, I mean, I think of myself, and I think about where we're at in our lives

and what we're trying to do. And one of the things that I think about where we're at in our lives and what we're trying to do. One of the things that I talked about the other day was, when we were hanging out with Mark Manson, was, I'm going to place in my life where my goal is to give more than I take. A lot of that is the evolution of my own life and personal growth and where I'm at in my life today. And I would hate for any of the good or the stuff that I try and give today that I feel comes from a very pure place to be tarnished by something I did when I was 22. I mean, I did a lot of stupid shit in my life.

Everybody did. Everybody did. Everybody did. Right. I said a lot of things that probably came off really bad. I probably didn't treat a lot of people right. I probably did a lot of things that probably came off really bad. I probably didn't treat a lot of people right. I probably did a lot of things that you could totally burn me at the stake for.

And that sucks that we live in a world today that I can't recreate myself or be a better version of myself because of all those things. And that if I were to build this massive platform that ends up helping millions of people and change millions of lives and millions of people love me that it could be stripped away from me or or tarnish because something came out when I Adam was 21. Oh no I think the reaction. I think it needs to be

appropriate. When I say take the person down I mean I think it needs to be appropriate because look here's a deal. If you're listening right, if you had a camera on you 24 hours a day from the age of 13 till now, every single person listening to this podcast and every single person that you know, 100%, I could find clips of shit that you said or did that was repulsive, horrible, terrible. Everybody, everybody, something you said, something you did, something you acted,

we're all selfish, terrible people at some point in our lives when we're teenagers maybe, when we're not that self-aware, and we're just fucking idiots, we've all done something really, really mean, or said something terrible I have, all of us have, and all of us would be fucked. So you have to be proportional. So if he said something or did something or whatever

and it was rectified, okay fine, that was 20, 30 years ago, you may be a different person. And that's what this is, you know that, right? This is 20 to 30 years ago. It's like Jesus Christ. And that's not to say that someone shouldn't be taking down for things like what we saw with Bill Cosby. Oh geez, that's totally different. Right, I mean, there's, Jesus Christ. And that's not to say that someone shouldn't be taking down from things like what we saw with Bill Cosby.

Oh, Jesus, that's totally different. Right, I mean, there's, I think he never, he'd never paid for that shit. Right, right. That's totally different. That's just this totally different. Hey, are you guys seeing the whole trade war, China, US economic shit that's going on with,

how do you pronounce that company, Huawei? I call it, yeah, Huawei. I don't know how you pronounce it specifically. Do you see what's going on with Huawei? Dude, Huawei, see, has been on my radar. I've been listening to a couple of podcasts that have brought them up in terms of like how their market share has grown substantially. And who's really behind Huawei?

There was a guy there that I believe the founder was somewhat tied to their intelligence for China at some point. To state sponsored company. So think about it. Think about like their interests like in wanting to control, having all that technology at their disposal, everybody's cell phone now has some tie-in with China.

What are they produced for cell? What is it? Well, Huawei was a huge tech company. Yeah, and they were poised to potentially become one of the number, if not the number one, they're already one of the top, but the number one producer of cell phones, basically. That's one of the biggest products.

So they're a tech monster out in Asia, and they're competing with companies like Samsung and Apple. And they've been caught listening on people already. Well, so now what it is is that the US has, and I think this is all part of the economic war that's, make no mistake, China and the US right now are engaging in a type of cold war through economics. It's been waging for a while now, but it's been ramped up with the tariffs and with the calling each other out.

And this is a big shot across the bow, which is the US government saying to companies, to US tech companies, if you wanna work with Huawei, you have to get US government approval. So now Google is cut all their ties with Huawei. Oh, shit. And that will do.

Just like that. That's gonna fuck Huawei's market international. I mean, they'll still do their, so in China, Huawei by far is the largest supplier of cell phones and stuff in China, but they, in the Chinese markets, they're not even allowed to have Google on there. They're not allowed to have Facebook.

They use Huawei operating platforms and Chinese-based stuff. So already it's been banned in China, like you can't. But internationally, which is where they were exploding because they make cheap, you know, decent phones, they rely on Google and internationally, come, internationally, international consumers don't want to fucking Chinese produce phone with Chinese shit on it and they're not not having Google. So Google now out. Whoa, now they're not going to work because because the US is a huge deal. Intel, Microsoft, everybody's like, nobody can

work with, pull the plug on. Can't work with them unless they get like approved by the US government. Yeah, I think, I mean, it's, Nobody can work with, pull the plug on them. Can't work with them unless they get approved by the US government. Yeah, I think, I mean, it's convenient that we don't all, we don't have to see all this like espionage and all this kind of stuff that goes on like constantly, like day to day, like, you know, it's convenient that we think it's just all works and everything's great

and nobody's like really trying to like steal ideas and all this kind of stuff, but like's really trying to steal ideas, and all this stuff, but the reality is something completely different. There's literally an underground war going on of information between countries. Yeah, that's the big fear. The big fear is that these Chinese phones are spying on us, well, first of all, they all are spying on us, but this is a state sponsored phone or whatever technology. So that's how they're fueling the, or supporting the decision to do that.

Now, as a result of that, of course, tech markets slide in loss of money because now, remember China is the second largest economy in the world, they're a powerhouse. And so we're further isolating them. And that kind of hurts everybody economically, but it hurts China the most. And so what you have right now is this economic war

with tariffs, with stealing each other's technology, and now stuff like this, it's war of a trade right now. This is it, this is the Cold War. The Cold War with the Soviet Union, eventually we won because it turned into who could spend more money and who can is the Cold War. The Cold War with the Soviet Union, eventually we won because it turned into who could spend more money and who can handle the most pain. And China isn't it for the long haul, man.

Well, that's an interesting one. So I think what I think is gonna happen is, if Trump wins the next election, I think China's gonna be in a bad position. Until that, up until the election, I think China is gonna try real hard to make Trump look bad, and hope the next guy that comes in

is gonna be like, you know, we'll start working with them. But right now, it's a fucking economic war. And my only fear is if we go too deep in the economic war, that it'll get to the point where it'll be proxy wars and then it'll be real war, because right now it's like we're hurting each other economically but you're someone not economically enough

I mean make no mistake it's war make no mistake it's we're affecting people it's just we're not firing guns you know I'm saying right right This clause brought to you by organify for those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organified fills the gap with laboratory testeded Certified Organic Superfoods to help give your health and performance the added edge. Try Organified, Totally Risk-Free for 60 Days by Going To Organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I dot com.

And use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Catherine B. Fitt. When the gym is absolutely packed and all the major equipment is taken, what do you suggest doing in provides using lighter weights with higher reps or choose different exercises? Oh, wow. That's a good question. This is a legit, I forget how big of a problem this is

is that I haven't worked out in a big busy gym and I do it occasionally. I'm on those days. Yeah, I do it occasionally. I'm in those days. Yeah, I do it occasionally, but most of my workouts are done now at my house and my garage, which is a basic equipment. I don't have to wait for anybody except for Jessica.

And in the or I work out early in the morning at a gym and early mornings are typically not super packed. This is the prime time. This is when people are going to work out like, I mean, I tell you what, if you've never ran a gym before, like you, you, majority of your sales production and workouts happen between the hours of like four to like eight.

Yeah. There's that four hour window where it's like, it's like lunchtime at a restaurant. Like if you go in a sandwich shop, you ain't selling shit until about lunch, and then it gets crazy. I just remember I'd like finding a corner, getting like a bench that would go incline

or you know, would be adjustable, and then having dumbbells, and I'm like, like everybody else can get away from me. I'm like busy right here. That's exactly what I do. Like what I like to do when this happens, and like it hasn't happened for a while, but it's what I used to do.

If I could get my hands on one exercise that was really effective, then, so let's say I'm doing a long leg workout, and it's gonna do squats, maybe walking lunges, leg press, stiff leg adedalist leg curls or something like that. Let's say I get my hands on a squat or a leg press, and I'm looking around, I'm like,

that shit's still busy, it's still busy. I'm doing 10 sets of one exercise. That's what I do. I start to just do one exercise, and you do a lot of sets of that exercise, and it's actually quite effective. In fact, I do that even when it's not super busy. I do that at my garage,

where sometimes I pick one exercise, and I practice the hell out of it. And it has benefits independent of any other factor, like just the fact that you're doing one exercise so many other times or so many for so many sets. There's a lot of benefit to doing that anyway. No, there is. And I love that idea because typically you can get

like a single barbell to possibly deadlift, a single barbell to possibly squat, a single barbell to possibly do a flat or an incline bench, or a barbell to do an overhead press. Like one of those things hopefully is open and if it's that chaotic, that's exactly what I might do myself is like, you know what, today I'm going to do incline bench for the entire hour. Prime myself really well and take my time and do a tempo set, and do a heavy set, and just work that exercise for an entire hour.

And there's nothing wrong with doing that. That's something I would do intermittently. Obviously I wouldn't choose every time I come to the gym. Hopefully this doesn't screw you every time. Like, if you're somebody who only works out at 5 p.m. every night at the gym, this could be a rough situation. And in that case, every time I go to the gym, and if I always have like one or two movements,

I really want, like I really want to do. Like, meaning that, I definitely want to- This is a two rocks in the- Right, right. Like, all the exercises that I definitely want to- This is the two rocks in the- Right, right. All the exercises that I plan to do today of the six to eight of them that I'm going to go through, there's two in there, one or two of them that are like, I'm going to the gym for that reason. Let's say those two are just taking at that moment, I'll do a bunch of the other stuff,

waiting until that moment comes to where I can go do that exercise. Definitely that, but then I'll also be a little more assertive in terms of like, I'm gonna go up there and be, how many sets you got left, whatever, and I'm gonna put my fucking towel or whatever I gotta do to be able to get that squat rack right after they're done. I'll work out next to them, but yeah, I have at least one or two movements.

Like those are like the non-negotiables, I have to get done. Yeah, that's the equivalent of putting your quarter on the video game back in the day. Totally. You're playing like, I would totally do that. Well, and here's the other thing too, this is just working in.

Yeah, I was just gonna say that. I was just gonna say that. Jim etiquette, like if you, if the person working out is, if you don't have to do major adjustments to what equipment they're using, like if they're going to leg press and the guys leg pressing nine if they're going to lay press

and the guys lay pressing nine plates and you wanna lay press two plates, might not work. But if there aren't major adjustments, Jim etiquette says that they say yes to you if you ask to jump in. Now, you have to be mindful of the time that they're resting in between sets. So you don't wanna jump in and completely mess up the workout,

but you ask them, hey, you might if I jump in, and they, most people will say, most good people will say yes. Here's the other thing too, that I think it's important to communicate. If you're a consistent gym goer, this becomes more of a problem for you. But if you're a consistent gym goer,

I think that people don't spend enough time going to the gym and playing around. Like, it's okay to go to the gym and sometimes go off routine and just practice and have fun with different pieces of equipment and different things that you don't normally use and just get in there and feel how they feel. And I've done this, I do this specifically when I go to New Gems now, because like I said, I'd never work out in Big Gems.

So now when we're traveling, and we go, like we just recently did our event, our live event in Ancinitas, that's down north of San Diego. And we all decided, let's get a workout when we first get there, because we'll have some time. So we went to this,

what was the name of the gym there? We should give them a shout out something. It was just It was a great gym by the way I was awesome, but because I never work out and typically don't work out in gyms I go in there to play so like I know what I typically do to work out But because I'm in a place with equipment that I'm not normally exposed or around I My my workout consisted of mostly shit that I never do so I did did a lot of machines, I did a lot of different types of equipment, and those types of workouts because they're so different and because it's novel become phenomenal workouts.

Now if I did them all the time, they wouldn't be as effective as my traditional workouts. There's a reason why I pick certain exercises that I do most of the time, but throwing them in every once in a while, they actually become super effective, novel, stimulus type workouts. So I'm in there doing, it's funny because as I'm doing all these machines, I'm thinking, and of course, three people came up and recognized me. I'm like, great, they probably think I'm a liar because I'm doing all these machines and isolation movements when I'm always promoting barbell stuff.

But no, it's, I'm going in there to play because I don't have access to all the stuff. So that's another, you know, state of mind you can go in with. And the last thing I'll say is this, if you're super serious about your fitness, and you're in a gym that's so packed that you don't have access to a lot of types of machines and equipment, pay more and go to a better gym. I mean, that's the bottom line. The difference between... Or get a PRX or work out a home.

Game changer. Yeah. The difference between a $30 a month gym and a $80 to $100 a month gym is massive. And I know people like, I don't want to pay another, you know, $50 a month. It's a month, $50 a month is nothing. It really isn't for most people. I think most people, they value gym memberships is cheap because so many gyms, self-cheap ass gym memberships. Yeah. But if you value your fitness and health,

you probably already invest money in it. Another 30, 40, 50 bucks a month. Katrina and I, you'll have a amazing gym. Katrina and I argue about the solid time because she gets so mad at me with our, because this is, it comes out of one of our accounts, our joint account. And she, I have memberships at like three or four,

three or four or three. Oh, bro, I have four different memberships. I still have at least three that I pay. So I probably spend three close to 200 and something at least to close to $300 a month in gym memberships. But to me, I value it that much. There's something that I really appreciate in all those gyms whether it be convenience for me,

the cardio equipment and another one, the pool and another one, one's more spa-based. Yeah, and so, I mean, I value my workouts that much, that if I have a moment in the middle of the day where I'm feeling avived, like, I mean, I had that the other day with you, so I was just like, I really want a steam.

Like, I like that I have a membership, that I have access to a really nice steam room that I can go if that's what I'm feeling. I want to be able to go do that. I guess everybody has that ability to do that, so I get that I understand it, but there is a lot of value to, in my opinion, if you care a lot about your health and fitness goals, and with spending a little more money on the gym, and I think it has got to the point where, you know, because of planet fitness and the 24th fitness, because they drove the rates down so much that. We have this false perception of what the real value is.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I know what it's like now in the gym market. $10 more a month, people will, oh, you're charging 39. Well, the gym down the street is charging 29. It's like $10, even though the gym is way better, we have a pool, we have all this other stuff you want.

It's $10 more a month than people, oh fuck it, I'm not gonna go to the gym because it's insane to me. For me personally, I take my fitness and health very seriously and it's something that I prioritize. I don't give a shit if I spend twice as much a month. What's the difference? 50 bucks a month, big deal.

I'm using it and I'm not packed all the time. It's hilarious. We'll pay 130 for yoga pants. Yeah. One pair. Yeah. One pair of yoga pants. We'll pay $130 for, we will spend $39.99 for a gym

ever. No, so that's the thing. That's the thing. The cheaper gyms are going to be packed. The cheaper gyms are going to be dirtier and the equipment is not gonna be as up to date in terms of, you know, it's broken and it broke for a week, you know. Spend a hundred, I'd tell you a promise.

If you spend $100 a month in most places, you're gonna get a gym that's not that packed, that's got clean, good equipment and you might not have to deal with this. But again, if you're dealing with it, have fun, go in and play around. Say, okay, today I had the structure to my workout. It's obviously not gonna happen.

Rather than going home, let's go try some different things. You know what's funny, so you actually, we talk a lot about on here about, people ask us a lot like predicting trends that we're gonna see. I'm gonna put that out there and say that we're gonna see a rise in the higher end gyms for these types of reasons. Health and fitness is becoming more popular and more trendy, like, you know, that planet fitness is starting to capture all these people that will just throw $10 away and never use a gym. That more and more people

are becoming aware of the importance of health and fitness and having a gym membership, that this is going to become a thing that's going gonna become annoying for the really serious people, and I think you're going to see a- It's already happening, the uptick in these. Oh, it's already happening. What's the company that owns? I can't remember Western, I don't remember the name of them, but they own court side, they own the Bay Club.

I think was another big one. Yeah, I know who you're talking about. Yeah, and I think there's one parent company still, right? There is. Okay, that's what they specialize in. They specialize. They specialize club one, right? I'm not sure.

Oh, no, that's different. So they specialize in the higher end gems that are anywhere between 100 to 150 bucks a month. And they're profiting like crazy. Lifetime, lifetime is opening up these gems and they're spending a lot of money on them. Did you see the apartment complex type gyms that they're opening? They're they're building buildings so apartment buildings, but it's all centered around

Fitness so they have sick ass gym like a sick ass gym or you see their next to an amazing lifetime fitness or it's just part of it The apartment complex itself is catered towards people who want, who consider health and fitness a priority in their lives. So it's already happening at them. I see the markets already starting to splinter off where you're getting the high end stuff and that's gonna keep growing and then you're gonna get little niche markets.

That's actually an interesting opportunity. I talked to a trainer who had basically got one of those apartments from an apartment complex that just emerged in there. There was a gym that was, you know, really nice gym, but centered his entire business around just recruiting everybody there that lived there to train with him and was doing really well with it, I guess. So that was interesting that captured that specific, you know, market. that captured that specific market. Next question is from Eleanor Jover. After a two week period of no workout

during a program like MAP Santa Ballack, is it better to continue where you left off or to start the program all over again? This may be one of, I was just gonna say the number one question. I probably get about our programs like, what do I do when I stop in the middle of one of them like where do I start over?

Now I'm curious to hear what you guys say. I know what I typically recommend people to do. Now here's the thing, you take a two week break or more, you can't really do anything wrong. Just restarting the program anywhere and you would be okay. Whether you move along to the very next phase, start that phase over, start the whole program over, nothing's a bad idea to be honest with you. And it's hard to say exactly which would be the best. So I don't think you can go wrong with any of these because your body is going to respond to

any stimulus at that point because you've already started to go the other direction because you haven't worked out. But I typically tell people if they, wherever they stopped in the program, so let's say you're in maps in a ball, and you're on phase two, and you're two weeks in, and then you fall off, and then you're off for two weeks or more, and then you come back on, I don't always just say start that phase over again, and then pick up where you left off. That's typically the recommended thing. That's what I would typically recommend, but so I don't have a hard number,

but what I've noticed with myself is that if I take a break, typically one third of the time of the break that I took is how long it takes me to kind of get back into it. In other words, if I did a three week break, I would give myself a week to get my body back so that I could train at the same intensity and same level I was at before.

If it was a six week break, it might take me two weeks, for example. This is gonna be different from person to person. Wherever you start back, start slow. One of the things that I learned, one of the lessons I learned over and over again on myself is if I did take a break and come back, I'd come back with the same fury and intensity as I left with and my body and I'd be sourced, shit, and it just would have overdone it. So whatever you wherever you start back up and give yourself to some time to work back up to the same level of intensity. Regardless of where you jump back in. So, I don't care if it's phase one, phase two or phase three,

you left with a certain type of intensity. You're not gonna probably not gonna be able to jump in with the same kind of intensity. And in my opinion, it's around one, and this is not a perfect number, like one third the time that you took off. So, you know, if it's three months off, it might take you a month to slowly work your way back in. Yeah, it's a hard one because I don't have a hard answer like yeah

You definitively have to jump back to that same phase that you're working on If you wanted to move forward. I think that a lot of it is a feel thing. How long did you take off like what what do you feel Recharged like you want to move forward and progress or do you feel like you know Maybe you need some time to you know like a refresher to go back through that same phase and You know work on that skill set a little bit further. I think that that there's value in that. I think there's value in Because of the fact that your body had started to respond and then now you go into this period where you're getting rest and maybe you rested long enough to where I could revisit that and benefit from that same experience. I tend to just take it based off of the time length off. If that was more of a

de-load versus I kind of spent a really long time off. I should probably start over. My maps and a ball is cool because. So I should probably start over. I don't have to say that it's cool because it's got pre-phase. Right, I don't think I would ever just, if it's at least a week or two off, I don't think I'd ever just pick up where I left off. I think I would always either reset the phase or reset the whole program.

Cause to your point where you were heading with the pre-phase, I was like, yeah, you start getting three weeks, four weeks, five weeks out. I mean, you become deconditioned really quick. My first workout back always when I've taken off a few a couple of weeks is, it looks like none of our phases. It looks like anything that looks closer to pre-face. Exactly. That's why I put pre-face in MAP Santa Ballac. So pre-face is in MAP Santa Ballac. There's two reasons for one is for the people who are haven't worked out in a little while, but they want to do MAPS and a ball.

It's not appropriate to jump right into phase one. Phase one is for people who've been working out. And then they go MAPS and a ball. They want to try something different. Go right to phase one. If you haven't been working out, you start in pre phase. And depending on how long you haven't worked out, you can do that for anywhere between two weeks to three months before jumping

into phase one. If you're a beginner, I'd go three months first. If you've only taken off a couple months, I'd go one to three weeks and then jump into phase one. But pre-phase can also be used when you just take time off in between. So if you're following a program, you're following maps in a ball, and then, oh shit, I haven't worked out for two weeks. Do a week of pre-phase and then jump right back in to where you left off.

That's a great way to utilize pre-phase. Now for those of you that don't own maps and a ballad and you wanna know how you could apply some of that knowledge to your current program, pre-phase basically is a very basic full body workout, three sets per body part, eight to 12 reps, focusing on technique and form,

and you do that two to three days a week. So if you've taken a few weeks off of your routine, you're not a MAPS and a BOLIC customer, but you wanna utilize some of this knowledge, just do a full body workout, three days a week, do one exercise per body part, eight to 12 reps, focus on your form, That'll help get you back to where you left off so you can jump back into your team. Next question is from Anya VR.

Is it better to do a slow more gradual cut as opposed to a shorter more drastic mini cut? Well, it depends on what you mean by better. So if the idea is, if the question is what's better for short-term fat loss, then I can make the argument that the drastic mini-cut, and a mini-cut would be a reduction, a drastic reduction in calories, or at least in the way this person's putting it, because a mini-cut doesn't have to be drastic, but this person said drastic. So a drastic mini cut would be 750 calories or more under your current caloric burn in terms of consumption. So if you're burning 3000 calories a day, you're going to take in 2000 or 2200 calories a day. That would be a kind of drastic. And then the mini cut would be you're doing it for two to four weeks and then you

go back. Yes, you'll burn more body fat in a short period of time doing it that way than doing it. Gradual. Now, if the question is which one's better for long-term success, gradual. Because gradual allows you the time to slowly integrate new behaviors and patterns into your life that become permanent before you move on to

more behavior changes and patterns. And that's been the process that I've seen to be the most successful long-term. And that it's not the short-term solution, but long-term in my opinion it's the better way. Now I agree with you. I do want to add though the the mini cut like that where you drop drastically, like let's say and I've done as high as like a thousand calories a day, I've reduced. That all really depends that advice is where that person's metabolism is currently at, whether I would allow that or recommend that or potentially work with that. So if you're used example, like you said, Sal, 3,200 and they drop down, I mean, that's a pretty healthy place.

I would never want to take a client of mine who's like, let's say their caloric maintenance is at 1,300 calories and take them from 1,300 all the way down to 300 calories for extended period of time. I don't think that's ideal. But there are some really good benefits to go on a drastic quote unquote cut for a short period of time and then to

go back into a free refeed. You just got to be careful of what happens. What tends to happen to somebody who, it's like the purge and binge habit happens when someone cuts that hard. That's kind of the drawback of a drastic cut for, you know, let's say a week or two weeks. But I mean, when I compete, that's kind of what happens towards the last few weeks is I'm cutting pretty aggressively. And of course, what happens when you get off a stage and you're off is the next day, you want to binge like crazy. So you got to be careful. If you encourage, is that behavior? It does.

It encourages that because you're restricting so hard. and then you then you decide oh, I'm off my many cut now It's back to Refeed or increase calories and what you do is instead of just replenishing the Thousand calories a day you end up replenishing 1500 2000 so you know, just be aware of that I but I think both of them are fine and have their place. I don't think it's one is better than the other I think they each have their pros and cons to them. But to Salis Point, the slower and more gradual for overall health reasons is probably the better route, but there's great benefits to an aggressive mini-cut because then you're

obviously going to see a faster, more rapid fat loss. But then the flip to that coin is, you also are going to want to rebound really hard afterwards and you need to have that meant. Yeah, I would say that the slow, gradual cut, you know, where you're watching your behaviors, you're changing small changes, making them permanent. That's appropriate for most people. That's the appropriate approach for most people. The many-cut approach is fine if you're good with nutrition.

If you've got good understanding of macros already, you've got a good control over it, you've got a good relationship with food. You're relatively advanced when it comes to manipulating calories and macros and understanding how your body responds and reacts. Then, mini-cuts in that fashion are perfectly fine. But most people, I mean, look, I train a lot

of everyday average people. I almost never recommended drastic mini cuts to most people. It was always the gradual approach that I found to be most successful, except for the small periods of time when I would deal with a person like myself. Like, I was a kid who was constantly,

my issue with food was I thought I had to eat it all the time because I was a kid who was constantly, you know, my issue with food was I thought I had to eat it all the time because I was skinny. And so my issue with food was to constantly force feed myself every two hours. There could be some behavioral, you know, potential benefits for someone like that where I say to them, Hey, we're not going to have you fast today. And then tomorrow, you're going to need a little bit just to kind of break those chains. But for most people people it's not that way. For most people, the last thing I recommend is, hey, Mr. Johnson, I know you're trying to lose 30 pounds,

here's what we're gonna do. I'm only having you do 1000 calories a day for the next week. And then next week we'll make up for it by bringing it back up. Holy shit, man, if you wanna strengthen a poor relationship to food, that's a great way to do it. I don't see a whole lot of benefit there. Sunday I'm gonna meet this, Mrs. Johnson. I always bring her up to my idea. Next question is from nautical p-fan too. Can you go in depth on what body dysmorphia is

and how it can sabotage our health and fitness goals and how it can affect our daily life as well as physical and emotional health? Would you Would you say that everybody or all of us have some sort of body dysmorphia? I would say it's extremely common. It's just, I think there's a spectrum, right? I think that some of us it's extremely bad to where you do extremely bad behaviors as a result of it. And then I think, what makes me think that all of us

kind of have it, and I think I shared this on the show before. Some degree. Right, like one of my trainer buddies, I remember seeing the way he covered up his body when I ran into him in the bathroom. And I was thinking to my, what I was thinking was, oh man, he looks good, he looks thick and filled out.

Like, that was like, was crossed my mind. What was obviously crossing his mind? Because he said something right away thinking was, oh man, he looks good. He looks thick and filled out. Like, that was like, what's crossed my mind? What was obviously crossing his mind? Cause he said something right away, like, oh man, I've been so out of shape. And like right away, starts making an excuse to why he doesn't think he looks good right now. And I think, wow, that's crazy that he views himself

that way when I was actually in my head, like complimenting him without saying anything and I'm thinking, oh, he looks really good right now. And it made me actually reflect on myself and like, you know, how often do I do this to myself? You know, and being completely honest, I'm sure I do this where I'm super hyper critical

of the way I look because the way I imagine people view my body when it's not at its best is probably way worse than how they really view it I think most people probably don't even fucking notice don't care or actually even think I may look decent when I'm instead I go like oh god, I don't look good. Yeah, I mean first off. I want to say that you know none of us are Psychological experts or psychiatr, and body dysmorphia, you know, the clinical body dysmorphia is a, this is an issue that oftentimes can be treated

or people will try to get treated by medical professionals. That being said, we are in the fitness industry, we've been in the fitness industry for, you know, over 20 years, and the fitness industry is the place to find body dysmorphia. That's right. And I mean, it defines, unfortunately, it defines the fitness industry at large. The clinical definition or about on body dysmorphia or body dysmorphic disorder is a mental illness involving obsessive focus

on a perceived flaw and appearance. So the flaw may be minor or imagined, but the person may spend hours a day trying to fix it, and they may even try many cosmetic procedures or exercise to excess. Body dysmorphia can range from people who literally, you know, want to remove a limb off their body. That's a type of body that's more fear where they, they don't like their hand. This is a real one. It's a rare, super rare, but they want it to cut off.

They want it to cut off. To the more common forms of body that's more fear where you just hate yourself. You don't like your body, you think you're ugly, you think you're fat, and you vary, by the way, you very well may be overweight. So it's not that you're not necessarily observing real things, you might be overweight.

The problem is the obsession of it and the fact that your body image becomes your self-image. It's when you identify with these things that becomes the problem. I had, what I would consider severe body dysmorphia growing up. I was a skinny kid. Now here's a funny thing, by the way. I look at pictures of myself as a kid now. Now that I've moved past a lot of this, I look at pictures of myself when I was a kid now and I look at them and I go, yeah, I was skinny, but I wasn't that bad.

But boy, did I imagine it to be like, well, terrible. Yeah, when you're growing up in the developmental process, like, all it takes is one comment a lot of times, you know, from one of your peers or somebody, like a girl or somebody else that, you know, highlights something that you already, you know, have these insecurities about.

And for me, that was the case. Just taking my shirt off and then having boning shoulders and being skinny and being ghost white. You know, the father of the shit out of me for a while until you grow up and you realize it's like, everybody wants to point flaw in something. It doesn't even matter if you're the most beautiful person in the world, you're the Megan Fox. Everybody gives her shit about her fingers

that look like toes or whatever the fuck it is. Yeah, exactly. There's always something. And, you know, so there's, like you said, there's a spectrum of that. I believe that there's just like, everybody has to face the facts of like, you know, what are my flaws? And can I move forward from that?

It's funny. I was going through old pictures with some family members and one of my aunts who's now in her 50s. We saw a picture of when I was a little kid and she was holding me and we were at the beach or whatever or I was standing next to her, I should say. And she was interbating suit and she was holding me and we were at the beach or whatever, or I was standing next to her, I should say. And she was interbathing suit and she's laughs. And she goes, I can't, she goes, I remember this.

She goes, that's back when I used to think I was really fat. And she was obviously wasn't. She's like, but back then I thought that I was. And God, what I would do to look like that again or whatever, everybody goes through that, right, when they get older. So it's a problem, especially when you, because I remember as a skinny kid,

or as a kid who perceived myself to be too skinny, it became my identity. I identified with it. So I had to change it at all costs, because otherwise I'm not worth attention. I'm not, you know, I'm not a good person or whatever. That's where the problem comes from. And a big part of the problem,

because it's grown by the way, body is more fee is probably worse now than ever before. And especially in this Instagram world. That's it. I mean, it's, I mean, they're asking, you know, how can it sabotage our health and fitness goals or affect our daily life?

I mean, it could fucking cripple you. And I think you become obsessed with it. And I think we are seeing it more and more today than we ever have. And I think a lot of that is promoted from these platforms where even myself, when I look, a lot of times I have to remind I go through my feet and I just like start on following people as whatever it was

that made me start following them. They're not, I'm not getting a lot of value from them. All I see their physique and their body and I'm just comparing. And you can, whether you think you are or not, that's the thing too. And I know when you hear people say that, because I'm not somebody who like goes on another page. They're not conscious they compare. Yeah, not consciously, but you're constantly seeing that.

And it then makes your brain, trick your brain into thinking that's normal. Yeah, let me give you an example, right? Adam, you're six four, six foot four, right? Six three, okay, so tall, you know, tall for the average person. If you lived in a world where the average man was seven feet tall, or if you lived in that world for a few months, you would start to perceive yourself as short. Right.

That's because your brain automatically compares yourself to the average. The problem is the average is not what you see around you in the real world. The average is become what you look at most, which is your social media. And the most of the shit that we follow on Instagram, if they're not friends or family, are perfect looking, Photoshopped Photoshop or whatever type of bodies You're automatically without realizing it. You are now your body is your brain is now Perceiving where you are on the hierarchy of what you may value which you may value you bought how you look Very very highly so here I am. I'm someone who values looks very highly and my brain is now

Perceiving me to be low on the totem pole because everybody look at it's perfect. Holy fuck, I'm not a good person, I don't feel good, I feel bad about myself. Now how does that affect your exercise and fitness? Well shit man, if you're working out and eating because you fucking hate yourself, you're gonna make bad decisions, bottom line. You're gonna starve yourself or force feed yourself. You're gonna beat the crap out of yourself in the gym. You may take anabolic steroids or things to augment your,

you're never gonna be satisfied. Or you may just give up because you feel like it's unobtainable. Or you may drown yourself in food or alcohol or whatever, making, this is why there's that cycle of obesity. It's like, I'm 15, 20 pounds overweight, I feel fat, I feel bad about myself, I want to feel better about myself, food makes me feel better, I'm going to eat more food, now I'm 30 pounds overweight and then the cycle just continues. So that's kind of what it's all about and it'll drive you in a way that doesn't feel

good. So here's what you got to do. This is the most effective thing I ever did for myself and the most effective thing I've ever communicated to clients. And again, I wanna remind everybody, I'm not a medical professional on this, again, just a trainer, but I found this to be very effective is I tell people two things.

Your body image is not your self image. Okay, so you can objectively look at your body and say things, okay? But don't connect that to your self image. And there's a big difference. There's a big difference between me looking in the mirror and saying, I have fat on my body. I think I have a little bit too much fat on my body

or I have too much fat on my body. And there's a difference between that and saying, I'm disgusting. I'm a disgusting person. I am gross. I'm ugly or I am fat. Okay, you are not fat. You have fat. So big, big difference. And if you think, or I am fat. You are not fat, you have fat.

So big, big difference. And if you think that's not gonna make a big difference, no, it makes a massive, your self-talk is what you start to believe. So separate the two. Number two, accept yourself. True acceptance and care doesn't mean you do whatever the fuck you want.

When you see someone who really takes care of their car or of their dog. You're not just the fine bad behavior. Yeah, yeah. When you really, really care about your child, does that mean you let them do whatever the fuck they want and feed themselves how they want and do all the drugs? Of course not.

You're going to take care of them properly. That's what true self love and self care is. When you're really taking care of yourself, it is not the false perception of self care is. When you're really taking care of yourself, it is not the false perception of self care, which is the cowardly, easy way, believe it or not, of escaping this, is, oh, I care, I love myself. That's why I do what I the fuck I want, and I don't try to work out, because I love my body the way it is. And that's not, that's actually the opposite. You're just, you're projecting a lot of your fears and insecurities, and you insecurities and you're selling yourself on your pathology

of how you're thinking about yourself. When you're really taking care of yourself, it's hard. You really have to take care of yourself. So that means sometimes you'll lead a donut, but most of the times you probably won't. I mean, sometimes you're gonna relax and allow your body to rest and recover,

but a lot of times you're gonna be working out and doing things that make you grow as a person both physically and emotionally and mentally. So those are the two things. If you can do those two things, you can get around and defeat body dysmorphia. And I will say this for people who are afraid of being accepted or loved by other people, or if they're going

to be attractive, the most attractive people in the world are people who have a positive self image and who truly take care of themselves and who are authentic. You might not attract as many people, but the people you attract will be real right, people, deep, and they'll have deep connections. I remember saying. That's it. So, and with that, go to mimepumpfree.com and download some of our guides.

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