Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1038: How to Get Rid of Stubborn Belly Fat, the Best Exercises for Athletics, the Truth About Roid Rage & MORE

Episode Date: May 24, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by MAPS Fitness Products (www.mapsfitnessproducts.com), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how to get rid of love handles and a stomach pooch, the b...est exercises for athletics, the causes of Roid Rage, and dating advice for their sons. Mind Pump claims their favorite Skinny Dipped almond flavors. (3:15) Getting food with Justin is a recipe for disaster. (7:04) ‘Beers with the Boys’ (pre-Quah) at the next Mind Pump Live event. (9:40) Who caused the bubble in the medallion market to burst? (14:11) Ford plans a new wave of layoffs: Has the wave of purchasing vehicles peaked? (21:24) The guys give their take on the Game of Thrones finale, future prequels & MORE. (26:18) Why overtraining DOES exist. (32:32) Mind Pump having a Memorial Day ‘FIRE SALE’!! (40:00) #Quah question #1 – I always hear love handles are the last thing to go, along with the little stomach pooch at the bottom. I would love to hear what you guys have to say about them and what you have done to help clients get rid of them? (42:20) #Quah question #2 – What are the best exercises that will transfer to athletics? (54:04) #Quah question #3 – Is there any truth behind ‘Roid Rage’? Is it due to improper dosing, abuse or is it just steroids amplifying anger that is already there? (1:04:18) #Quah question #4 – What kind of dating advice will you give your sons? (1:15:59) People Mentioned Christina Rice, NTP (@christinaricewellness)  Instagram Coach Danny Matranga | CSCS (@danny.matranga)  Instagram Joe Rogan (@joerogan)  Instagram 𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕺𝖋𝖋𝖎𝖈𝖎𝖆𝖑 𝕮.𝕿. 𝕱𝖑𝖊𝖙𝖈𝖍𝖊𝖗 (@c.t.ali.fletcher)  Instagram Joe DeFranco (@defrancosgym)  Instagram   Related Links/Products Mentioned May Promotion: MAPS HIIT ½ off!! **Code “HIIT50” at checkout** Visit Skinny Dipped for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners!  **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Check out Mind Pump Live to get tickets for their next live event! Visit Vuori Clothing for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Taxi industry insiders — not Uber — created New York City’s cab-tastrophe Ford plans new wave of layoffs, to shed 10% of its workforce by August 'Game of Thrones' Series Finale Sets All-Time HBO Ratings Record Joe Rogan Experience #1044 - C.T. Fletcher Mind Pump 1035: Joe DeFranco MAPS Fitness Performance | Muscle Adaptation Programming - Mind Pump Mind Pump TV - YouTube Adam Schafer’s Instagram post on Love Mind Pump Free Resources

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salta Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this brand-spaking new episode of Mind Pump, so fresh. For the first 38 minutes, we have fun. We do our introductory portion of this episode. After that, we get into the fitness talk. But here's what we talked about for the first 38 minutes.
Starting point is 00:00:27 We start out by talking about the skinny dipped battle. We, who's eating all of our skinny dipped almonds? It's a battle, right? Yeah, we don't know. All we know is Adam has five bags at home, all to himself. And they are one of our sponsors. If you go to skinnydipped.com forward slash mind pump and enter the code, mind pump. You'll get 20% off.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Then we talked about the man, hand and beach, Vuri event. We have another live event coming up on June 6th. This one's different than the other ones because this one, we're going to hang out with you beforehand. We're going to have some beers, hang out, shake hands, have a great time. Then we'll go shopping at Viori,
Starting point is 00:01:06 and then we'll do a live Q&A. I think as of the airing of this episode, there should be a few spots available. Go to mindpumplive.com and sign up again, it's June 6th, it beautiful Manhattan Beach in Southern California. We're gonna get crazy. And of course we are sponsored by Viori,
Starting point is 00:01:23 the maker of the most amazing athlete, athlete, where is that? He's supposed to say, yeah, I love it. I wear it all the time. Anyway, if you go to Viori clothing, VU ORI clothing.com forward slash mine pump and use the code that's listed on that webpage, you'll get 25% off. Then Adam brought up the taxi medallion scandal and the gig economy Ford laying off 7,000 people. That's not good We talked about the Game of Thrones prequel that people are talking about and then I bring up the concept of overtraining versus under training Then we get into the fitness part of this episode
Starting point is 00:02:04 Then we get into the fitness part of this episode. First question, this person talks about love handles and how love handles are the last thing to go along with the lower belly fat. What do we have to say about that? Like how do you get rid of that? What's the problem? Why is it so hard to get rid of? Next question, what are the best exercises
Starting point is 00:02:20 that will transfer to athletics? What are the best exercises to do if you wanna be a better sports person? I'm a sports person, I like that. Next question, is there any truth behind royd rage? This is the belief that if you take anabolic steroids, you'll just be pissed off and angry all the time. Bulk smash.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And the final question, what kind of dating advice are we gonna give or do we give to our sons? Also, this month, Maps hit our most effective fat burning program in this short term that we have available is 50% off. Remember, hit stands for high intensity interval training. Hipmaps hit is a program with barbell and dumbbell complexes.
Starting point is 00:03:02 It's all 50% off. Just go to mapshit.com, M-S, h-i-i-t, dot com, and use the code hit 50, h-i-i-t, 5.0 for the discount. Boom. Dude, I feel bad for Rachel. I asked her why we don't have any more skinny dipped in stock. Just an aster.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Yeah. You asked her, although you, Adam, have five bags at home? Bro, we got cases. At home? No, when they came in, listen, listen, Linda, when it came in, it came in in a case, we must have had nine boxes and about 15 or 20 those individual bags.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I took five of the chocolate mint large bags. You fucker. And I put it in my freezer at my house and I still have some in there. I mean, I have some serious real estate, dude. You Fox have been eating them every single day and here. Well, you know what, though, but there's a difference, though. We didn't hoard them in our home. Yeah, that's not very, I didn't hide them.
Starting point is 00:04:00 You know what I did? You know what I did because you guys would be eating them all the time. I know why you did. Because it looks really nice and the free barbecue you got from mine too I once can't you know what would be nice right now, but you lose five bags you have came up on thousands of dollars of supplements per month Let's change subject You are notorious. I only take what you guys don't want. I'm pretty sure you go to one experiment with every supplement You know what a barbecue. You don't even know how to light a barbecue
Starting point is 00:04:29 You guys only like the peanut butter flavor. Just leave me those the peanut butter flavors I just want the chocolate that's my favorite. That's what I feel like you're okay, so can we claim? Yeah, let's claim I want chocolate mint. What are you gonna go with? Only to do the raspberry or the dark chocolate or the espresso I'll take all three of those which one do you want? I mean, Doug which one is your I'll do the raspberry or the dark chocolate or the espresso. I'll take all three of those. Which one do you want? Dog which one is your I'll do the chocolate the dark dark chocolate. It's dark chocolate peanut butter is you peanut butter chocolate Raspberry espresso or dark chocolate Okay, you could have raspberry No, I like I like the mint ones whoa. Whoa. Don't intr, this I already claimed it. I'm not saying I'm gonna, I'm not trying to take
Starting point is 00:05:06 just divided line salad. We did, so there's the deal. Actually, to be honest with you, my favorite flavor is the peanut butter, but the reason why I don't eat the peanut butter is because it's made with, because you care about me. No, there's a little bit of non-fat dry milk in it. No, that's what, the other ones
Starting point is 00:05:18 are peanut-rises throw it at a day. Tell me problems. The other ones have milk fat. So I can do milk fat, I can't do milk protein. I can do all the milk. So I know. You get it. You probably, do you make, I know what you do, bro.
Starting point is 00:05:29 It's your little, your peanut butter is getting it. You make cereal. Oh yeah. You pour it in a bowl. In a bowl? A cereal. Just shred of cheese. It's not right.
Starting point is 00:05:38 It's cheese. Put some cheese right on it. I pour espresso on top of that. In between bites, he sucks on the watch. Start with cow. Yeah. Bro, the other day when we were at the gym, after we worked out at ClubSport, and then we get died.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Oh yeah. And everybody gets, and I actually love, I love their little, I mean, they got a great little, you know, what do you call it? Kiosk thing. Yeah, Kiosk food. Oh, is that ClubSport? Yeah, ClubSport.
Starting point is 00:06:00 They have like little meals, like, in their pre-portional. Oh, little meals, they got, they got boiled eggs, smoothies, days smoothies great Salmon, chicken breast rice veggies. We all order. I'm not even paying attention to everybody or we sit down You have a smoothie. Yeah, I've got it. I've got the champion. I have chicken rice and broccoli Yes, because you don't like chewing anything and and Justin is literally sitting there with string cheese two cheese sticks Like a few string cheese like really all the. Yeah, like a two string cheese. Like really all the choices?
Starting point is 00:06:26 Dude, I used to be in my real estate when I would go into class. Like everybody was trying to steal my string cheese. You just said that there was no. It's like, no, this is mine, I'm an adult. You know what you almost bought? But you know you didn't because you knew you'd get judged by us.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Don't lie, too. Be honest with me. You saw the peanut butter jelly sandwiches they had. No, you almost got that. I don't eat that shit. Yeah, you did. No. You don't like peanut butter sandwiches?
Starting point is 00:06:47 I mean, it's all right, but I'm like, no, I can't do like, no, I'll do cheese. I'll do like a block of cheese before you eat that shit. Have you tried peanut butter on cheese? No, that's not good. You don't think that'll be good? Oh, it's not a good combo. I'm gonna tell you what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:07:00 It's alchemy. Isn't that weird how some things that are great alone, but you combine them with scurros? No, peanut butter chocolate is like the old science there, buddy. Yeah, I know it. Yeah, science guy. I know that's what they call it.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I also had a banana just for the record. Yeah, I like that matter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like a child. That's because he felt guilty. He's like, fuck, I can't. He's like, I'll take three of those string cheeses. Oh, fuck, just back.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Oh, something else. He looks at the two of us. He goes, uh, uh, in a banana. Yes. Yes. It's like it's happening. That's only fruit they had though. I would have gone like anything else.
Starting point is 00:07:32 I'm not a big fan of bananas. It's just I always teased Justin too. Like whenever we go out to eat because every once in a while, we'll forget that he hates certain things like fish. He does this not eat fish. Yeah, he did. And so I'll joke with him and we'll be on our way to a restaurant and it's like it's gonna be sushi or something
Starting point is 00:07:48 and then you can see Jesse's fucking good. Yeah, but they got chicken nuggets. Dude, you did that too in the other day and you actually fucked him. We are on our way. So Danny's taking us to, we go at the last trainer talk we just did and Danny, first of all, Danny fucked up on how he was selling it.
Starting point is 00:08:05 So Danny needs to work on a sales skill. You know what I'm saying? Because I asked him, I said, Hey, Danny, can you take us somewhere good? He said, where do you want to go to eat? I said, well, somewhere healthy, right? Somewhere healthy, but you're one of your... His town, right?
Starting point is 00:08:16 So I said, what does that even mean? Yeah, that's exactly good. I don't know, what does that mean? You want to tie, you want this? I'm like, well, we don't need to get super ethnic. Just bring us something. Just take us somewhere that's... Yeah, that's good, a good balanced meal. And so he was just like, well, maybe he gave that kind of that answer, right?
Starting point is 00:08:31 And so we're driving and on the way over to this, it wasn't a tie place. Where was it? Vietnamese? Yeah, it's a Vietnamese place, right? And on the way over there, Sal is fucking with Justin. I'm like, yeah, they'll have hot dogs and nuggets there. I'm sure. Yeah, yeah. I was like go. Yeah, I was like,
Starting point is 00:08:45 and so we pull up and there's a Chipotle. Is that where you went Chipotle? I went Chipotle. So there's a cross the street is a Chipotle. Justin goes over there and then we Americanized Mexican. We go into this restaurant, which was Bob's. Oh, incredible steak, rice.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I had cubed flamin'ion, rice and vegetables. It was so amazing. And then Justin gave me angry, dude, because I would have totally got in on that action. Oh, I knew you on rice and vegetables. It was so amazing. And then Justin, I made me angry, Dan, because I would have totally got in on that action. Oh, I knew you would have loved it. Oh, this poor guy. This Sal was fucking good. I just didn't trust anybody at that point.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I just be-lined it out of the car. I'm like, I'll see. That's what you guys later, between Danny's indecisiveness and Sal fucking with you. It was a recipe for like, our disaster-free. You know what would have worked, Adam, as if we teased him about going to Tripolt Lake,
Starting point is 00:09:25 because you know Justin, he'll just do the op, like you tell him to do something. We heard reverse psychology, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you're probably, yeah, but then I would have known you're doing that, so. You know what I mean? I flipped it right back on you. This is how that worked out.
Starting point is 00:09:37 So you know what I'm excited about? Inception, you know what I'm excited about? But, so you know how we've been doing the events, the live events, and the structure that we've been doing that trainer ones of the V.O.A. ones. No, no the V.O.A. The trainer ones are great too, but the the ones that we've been doing where we we meet our our listeners or fans Like the one we call I like when you call listeners better. Yeah, yeah, I like that. No, it feels weird. Yeah, what fans just feels I don't like saying Yeah, it sounds so supporters. It sounds so supporters It sounds so like that sounds
Starting point is 00:10:06 That sounds like we're going through something terrible Thanks for supporting me. I have kids And fans just sounds pretentious and yeah listeners. Yeah listeners. Yeah, anyway, so followers. I love these No, I hate that too. I'm not Jesus. Sorry followers. I love these. No, I hate that too. I'm not Jesus. Sorry. I'm going to fall in. I'm sorry. But I what I like about these events or the structure I should say because the next one we're about to do, I'm excited about the structure that we've been doing it just for the audience is typically what we do is is you know we have anywhere between you know 50 to 150 people show up And then we come out and we do,
Starting point is 00:10:46 or we talk to them and then we do kind of a live Q&A and get to meet people. And then afterwards, we hang out with them. And so in San Jose, what we did is we hung out and had a few drinks with them. At the last one we did, in Anceneedis, we went to a bar afterwards and had a great time in drink. And to be honest, that's my favorite part
Starting point is 00:11:05 because that's when we get to really talk to people and meet with them. What I like about the Viori event, the next one we're doing in Manhattan Beach is we do that first. So we're gonna come out and hang out and have beers with everybody. We're gonna get loose quick. That's gonna be so great.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I'm a little nervous. Well, it's just because we're gonna drink before the Q&A. So who knows, we're the two. You can get sloppy. They're gonna learn before the Q&A. So who knows, when you can get sloppy? They're gonna learn the true. The true. Yeah, I won't get sloppy, but I tell you what,
Starting point is 00:11:30 that's definitely a recipe for me, spending a lot of money too, because I already like, I love all of the Ori's gear. Oh yeah. Oh, you're drinking and by the way, I'm gonna be like, ooh yeah, like this. I think I got 10 items for Courtney, at the last time of the year. 10? Yeah, and then, like this. I think I got 10 items for Courtney,
Starting point is 00:11:45 at the last time in a year. 10? Yeah, and then, did you do something back? Well, she found out later that there was at least three or four items for her good friend that she works out with, and she just tagged that onto the order,
Starting point is 00:11:56 and I'm like, how dare you? Like I'm doing everybody shopping for them. You know, like, come on, I have things to do. Your wife made you buy her friend clothes? Yeah, I was like, I thought it was for you. No, this is for my friend. Thank God they hook it. I don't know if we announced it.
Starting point is 00:12:11 We announced that last time, like the people, the audience should know that when we go to these events. So if you were, yeah, hooked up. Yeah, they don't do, they don't really do discounts. They do the discount through the Mind Pump, right? The first time you purchase, but if you're there also, that you get the discount again. So, I mean, I had spent without the discount,
Starting point is 00:12:27 it was over a thousand dollars on season. The hope, thank God, I'm really excited to hang out, because that's my favorite part of this whole thing. It's being able to talk to people, hear their impact. I asked them questions like, you know, do you have any feedback for us? And how have we helped you if we've helped you? And you know, what are the things you think that we should focus on? What do you like that feedback for us and how have we helped you, if we've helped you and what are the things
Starting point is 00:12:45 you think that we should focus on? What do you like that we talk about? Because the one drawback about talking on a podcast or doing new media is that we don't get to see what's really working in real time. We don't get that feedback. And so I like to hear from people things like, oh, I like it when you do an episode
Starting point is 00:13:03 just talking about a basic concept like how to train your legs or whatever. And it gives me ideas of how we can make the show better. So I'm excited that we get to do that first, get to meet people first. And I wonder, how do you guys think that's gonna change our style? Because we normally do that where we do the live questions.
Starting point is 00:13:19 But now we'll do the live questions after we've hung out with everybody. Yeah, I don't know if I'm gonna like it more or less yet. I haven't, you know, I don't know if I'm going to like it more or less yet. I haven't, you know, I haven't just, I'm going to be determined. I'm interested in doing it different. I'm open to us trying different things. I mean, every time we've done it, I feel like it's evolved and gotten better no matter what. So I mean, at the end of the day, it'll be a learning experience, whether it ends up being
Starting point is 00:13:39 better or worse. I think no matter what, we'll come out the other end. I forgot. I should have asked, I should have asked this in fact before going over, are this sold out yet? Uh, no, there's still something to get slashed. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Okay, good. So people can go, uh, what's the site? Is it mind pump live still Doug? Yeah, mind pump live live dot com. Mind pump live dot com. And then it's on the sixth, uh, June 6th, Manhattan Beach, what time? Does anybody know what time it is on the website? It says on the site. She's called these hard client.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Details. My God. It wasn't planned. I'm sorry. So anyway, change the subject. Who was it that brought up? Was it you Adam that said you want to talk about tax medallions scandal and then that's it? Oh, yeah. So you know, one of the taxi medallions that,
Starting point is 00:14:21 like are you talking about the ones in New York? Yeah. And so what was really common, you know, you, you, you remember when they were trying to ban Uber and Lyft and everything for the longest time. Well, people need to know what this is. So a taxing medallion, you need to buy in order to own and operate a taxi in New York. And there were only a limited amount of these that were put out.
Starting point is 00:14:44 And at one point, one medallion was worth something like $700,000. Bro, $1.5 million. Oh, $1.5 million. Yeah, so they reached to limits of like one to $1.5 million for a medallion. Because it was so limited to supply of these. Yes. And that's what the point that I was reading up. So what's interesting to me is the people that were giving the loans out for these medallions were the real hustlers and all this. It was inevitable, it was a bubble that was going to burst no matter what, even if Uber
Starting point is 00:15:15 and Lyft didn't come on scene. Now they've used Uber and Lyft as a scapegoat. So a lot of these people that have lost their taxi business and it's been this like, we've... Well people are mortgaging their homes to buy these medallions so they could drive a taxi and make 30 to $50,000 a year with a million dollar loan.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Do the math on that. Like that's what I mean by it's being a pain off. Exactly, a bubble that was eventually going to burst no matter what. It's just like the housing crisis is just like the education crisis. The riverless loans of the system. Now, how do they think that
Starting point is 00:15:44 how are they positioning that the bubble would burst without the competition of Uber and Lyft? Well, just simply that, the same way that we are talking about what's going to happen with school loans and what happened with the home loans. It's just the math doesn't make sense. When you look at the average taxi,
Starting point is 00:16:00 what he makes, or she makes in a year, and you look at what a million dollar or a 1.5 million dollar loan looks like on a business like that, do the math. The time that you would have to take to in order to pay that, you would never pay that off. You would spend the rest of your life basically paying the interest off just to keep it.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Now you're talking about the salary of a taxi driver, but the person who owns the taxi could make a lot more, right? Yeah, so they were making, they could be making money off of the people. But that's why the medallions are so expensive. I mean, the reason why they were so expensive is because it's a racket.
Starting point is 00:16:37 It was all a racket. This was the combination of government and big business, and they made law saying we could only sell this many. And in a city like New York, where there's tons and tons of people, this is, it was notorious. People made jokes about how hard it was to get a taxi in New York. That was like a common joke.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Like, oh my God, I can never get a taxi. It's impossible. And it's because they artificially prop the price up by reducing the supply while the demand was high. And so, of course, the value went through the roof. It was gonna drop as soon as the, there were more medallions available or fucking Uber. You can't even sell a medallion now, do you know that?
Starting point is 00:17:13 I saw this documentary where this guy was, he mortgages his home, he owned a taxi, but he also drove it. And he's like, I can't even sell it. He's like, nobody wants to bite anymore. It's not worth anything. So the point I'm making is that we they tried to demonize Uber and Lyft over the whole the whole thing crashing,
Starting point is 00:17:30 but it was inevitable that it was going to burst eventually. Because it was yeah, because it was yeah, because it was a total fricking scam to begin with. And people should have and I know that I assume that it was like Uber and Lyft that disrupted that entire space. They just accelerated it right.
Starting point is 00:17:44 They just came in and it completely accelerated the process, but it was inevitable that that was going to collapse. There's a few markets like that. Like you know the oil market, the international oil market, the OPEC nations all decide how many barrels of oil the release or not, and that helps dictate the price. Because if you just flood the market with the supply of oil, the price will automatically drop.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Diamond, I've read that diamonds are the same thing, there's a few families that owned the diamond mines and they restrict the supply in order to keep the price really, really high. This is just, I mean if you own all the supply and you want to restrict it yourself, that's fine, but when you partner with government to make laws, because the laws literally said you could not drive a taxi in New York unless you owned a medallion and of course you can only buy a medallion from the government and they only sold however many, like 10,000 or whatever. So then of course that shit's going to, at some point the technology is going to come
Starting point is 00:18:42 out where it's easy to outcompete that now. Uber comes out, anybody could drive an Uber, there's gonna come out where, you know, it's easy to outcompete that. Now, Uber comes out, anybody could drive an Uber, there's no limit to it, there's no loss, you can't, you know, drive an Uber car. People are calling Uber's left and right because taxis are so hard to get. Crap. Well, one of the best ways to know that you're on, you're heading the right direction with a right, the right business model or a good business model is when you are disrupting these things. I mean, that's, I mean, I like to think a lot business model is when you are disrupting these things.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I mean, I like to think a lot of what we're doing is disrupting our space too. I mean, when you look at the people that had a lot of the good information as far as health and fitness, the gatekeepers were, it was a paid wall to get access to a lot of that information. And or those that were that have gotten really popular on YouTube or famous, it's like one individual who is who's kind of controlling
Starting point is 00:19:31 all the information and making all the money where it's like, dude, it got ridiculous if you could think about it. Like some guys in kettlebell programs and were there like selling it for $5,000, you know, just to have access to like some movements. And like now you have people on YouTube, just giving that away for free. And it's like, it's crazy to me that there's still people still trying to push that model out there because it's, I mean, it is obviously it's an exclusive like process of gaining that knowledge and like going and doing the work to acquire it. But now it's like, it's, I mean, information itself is so readily accessible.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yeah, and people are like, oh no, you know, the gig economy, it's bad because it's, it's making things so much less expensive and so much more available. But no, I mean, if you look at the growth of the economy over the last 10 years, how many jobs have been added? Do you know, a large percentage went to the gig economy,
Starting point is 00:20:28 and a lot of the jobs in the gig economy give people an incredible amount of flexibility. Like every time I get picked up, because I always use Uber, I use Uber quite a bit. Like if Jessica and I are gonna go out in a weekend, we'll use Uber, obviously every time I go to the airport, I use Uber, and then when we travel, we use Uber, and I always ask them, like, hey,
Starting point is 00:20:46 were you a taxi driver before? Why do you do this? I'm very curious. And a lot of these people are like in-between jobs. No, I got laid off, or I lost my, so I started doing this, or I'm doing this to supplement my income, or I met one guy who he does investments.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And one of the reasons why you drive Uber is so he could meet more potential clients. Like think of all those different opportunities. Yeah, because all the opportunities that they present. That's what everybody ever does. Yeah, and he strategically does it during the hours that you would pick a business minute women up from the airport. Smart.
Starting point is 00:21:16 So he hangs out at areas like that or making money to prospect. Uh-huh. No, it's a brilliant idea. Speaking of gig and also jobs, did you see that Ford is gonna be laying off 7,000 people? Yeah. $600 million a year in salaries. Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Yeah, they just can't keep up, dude. They can't keep up, right? And Ford was like the staple here. You know, the rock, the one that did not get, you know, they were the pursue through all that whole collapse. Well, and this is, and brought that up because you just brought that up, Sal, is, I mean, this is the counter argument to that. This is what people are, you know, sure, the gig economy is creating all these other jobs.
Starting point is 00:21:57 It's also causing people to potentially lose their jobs. So then what we, what we'll get highlighted is this, right? This will be highlighted. Of course. On the news is like, oh my God, like, it's all these people losing their jobs so that what we'll get highlighted is this, right? This would be highlighted. Of course. On the news is like, oh my God, like all these people losing their jobs. It's a market correction. I remember years ago, I watched this documentary on these towns in India, where they were known for making these particular types of rugs. I think it was rugs.
Starting point is 00:22:22 And because they were known for it, their local governments passed laws saying that that workers had to be paid this much and you had to use this specific type of equipment. So as things became more advanced, and companies were using machines and stuff to make these rugs, these people were supposedly protected by the law. So you can't use those machines,
Starting point is 00:22:42 you have to use these kind of archaic pieces of equipment. Well, everybody lost anyway, because they couldn't compete with the greater efficiency. And so you're gonna see a lot of market corrections like that. It's not, it's bad. If you're a Ford employee, it's bad, right? If you're one of the people that's been laid off, that definitely sucks, but on the whole,
Starting point is 00:23:03 you're looking at greater efficiencies in the market. And I think the automobile market is going to be very interesting thing to look at in the next 20 years or so because of things like self-driving cars and how it takes all the way. What does it look like now with the, like has the numbers of people actually buying and owning cars
Starting point is 00:23:23 dropped substantially? Or that's a good question. Like what's the determining factor in terms of like like why there's less interest in buying these vehicles? So that's part of the prediction and why they're heading this direction is because it's becoming less and less popular to own vehicles. And I think it's what the article talked about was not that it's, I don't know if the numbers support this yet,
Starting point is 00:23:49 but that they think it's peaked. That it's, we've peaked. We've hit the all-time high of people buying vehicles, new vehicles on other basis, Uber, Lyft, things like that, are becoming more and more popular. And it's being less common that somebody runs out and buys a new vehicle right away. These all these shared types of services are popping up now.
Starting point is 00:24:11 That's nothing too like your zip cars. That's really in the city. That's really popular. Oh, dude, I have a lot of family and friends in San Francisco and none of them own cars. They either use Uber or zip cars, or they'll rent those bikes, those electric bikes, or they have these ride-sharing
Starting point is 00:24:26 services or these, I should say, rental car services that are not like your typical ones. It's literally person to person. Yes, like VRBO for cars. Yes, I could rent my truck out to you for the weekend. My brother will spend a hundred bucks, drive down to San Jose and a sick-ass car, and it's because some owner of a BMW or whatever is not driving it during the week because during the week they live in the city so they just walk and so like I might as well make money off of my car and they put this app on and
Starting point is 00:24:53 someone picks up the car drives it. Oh dude, it's gonna be interesting and when self-driving cars really become a thing and I have no idea how long that's gonna take because of regulations and laws. But when that becomes a thing, very few people are gonna own a car. It's like a horse. Very few people own horses nowadays. Why would you own a car when you have to spend money
Starting point is 00:25:13 to maintain it, the cost of buying the car, the cost of insurance, when it's gonna be cheaper. Storage of it. Yeah, you gotta have all the space to store it. To your point, like horses, it'll become a luxury. Totally. Yeah, it'll become a luxury. You have to drive it on your own private road.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Yeah, I'm telling you, the rise of like tracks and like off-road courses and shit, I bet you that's gonna be a thing. Probably for the adventure of it. You have to like driving it yourself. You'll have to have an automated car, like pull it to your track. And then you can get in and drive it.
Starting point is 00:25:41 And one day you could tell your grandkids like, I see this is a stick shift. The question will be, is will things like classic cars, so that will it drive the price of those up, or will it actually, I think so. I think some increase in value, yeah. And muscle cars and like, you know, I think those will just keep gaining,
Starting point is 00:25:58 you know, and rising in equity. Yeah, some cars I would imagine would go up because they've got that value, that nostalgia. And there's obviously at some point, cars you drive yourself are going to be quite rare. I mean, think about it. I bet you will be laughed at by our grandkids. So I know you saw the Game of Thrones big ending finale, the underwhelming. Yeah, the underwhelming.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Hit its peak. I mean, like maybe two episodes in. I mean, what, what was your thoughts on that last? Well, so, are we gonna do spoilers here? Well, we don't have to do completely, we're not gonna spoil. I'm just, I wanna feel. Were you stoked on it or were you not? I was not, and we, did you see my funny meme
Starting point is 00:26:41 that I posted? I thought that was clever of me. So, like I wrote it, I had to meme, but I thought that was clever me. So it's like, I wrote it right into me, but I thought it was a great share, somebody shared with me. I, we watch this every weekend right now with Katrina's family. There's like about 12 of us that all get together
Starting point is 00:26:53 and it's been, who was the tradition every throughout this season. We all got together and watched it. And there was lots of dialogue leading up to this last thing. Who's gonna, who's gonna kill who, who's gonna be the final king, whatever. And definitely the room at the end of the show was kinda like, yeah, underwhelmed.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Yeah, it really, it really, you know, I guess it's hard when a show that had so many peaks in it and just amazing moments to live up to that. But I think that's been the consensus across the board for everybody that's that watch this show was. Yeah, they kind of set the tone really high with just so many shocking like twists and turns that they were just constantly throwing at you. So I definitely was not super impressed with the last two. Well, actually the last one, the second last was okay.
Starting point is 00:27:45 But anyway, I bring that up because they are already working on a series to kind of follow up with that. HBO is going through a couple of different pilots that are trying to like bring up prequels to the West Roads. And so that's the, that's the, dude, this is a cash cow.
Starting point is 00:28:03 And how can we squeeze it even further, right? So it hit some, I read that too yesterday. It hits that last episode, hit some crazy. I wanna say like 13.2 million viewers watched that last, pretty much everybody but Sal. Yeah, watch that last, that last. All the anti, you know, all six of them. All six of them.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Yeah, it must be stupid. You and the five other people listening right now. Did you watch it? Everybody else watched it. Yeah, that's great. Hit all-time records. You know, how do you feel about that? Like, I go back and forth on that where we, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:39 for business reasons, it makes total sense. Like, I get it. Like, I get why you would do that. Like, you would be, I guess you would be a fool if you are in charge of HBO to not capitalize on the traction that this show has already got. But I don't know if I'm personally a fan of it because sometimes I think it's like watching a fighter
Starting point is 00:29:00 or an all-star basketball player. Fight past their prime. Yes, it's never gonna be as good. Right, it's like, it's almost better that you leave us hanging and we're forever talking about it and wishing that there was more. Well, the market will determine that, right? I think there's such a market demand
Starting point is 00:29:16 that they have to make this bet. And then if nobody watches it, no, everybody, you're right. It's like that athlete that I'm retiring and then they come back again a couple seasons later and you're like, come on. You ended on such a peak. Right. That's what I come back.
Starting point is 00:29:34 That's what I'm saying. The market's already determined. It's going to, it's worth it financially. There's no doubt. I mean, half the viewers could come into tune into, I would watch it just because I want to see, right? I feel like it elevated a lot of competing type of franchises out there. Like every other platform wants to be able to create
Starting point is 00:29:53 an epic show like that. Like that's, you could see that. Already these different ideas that are being pitched around and like again, like I brought up the Mandalorian, like they're trying their best to put money in that direction to make it that compelling and gripping and capture that kind of momentum that Game of Thrones had.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Well, it's crazy when you think about the time, like how many was it seven, eight seasons, eight seasons, and then some of those episodes at the end were 70, 80 plus minutes long. Each one of them was like a movie. Yeah, that's a lot of creative writing. That's a lot. And a lot to follow.
Starting point is 00:30:28 What I found. I mean, they have a lot of time to tell a really good story. Oh God, it's so vast. So many families involved. What I'm interested to see is if we continue this where we drip things on a weekly basis or you'll see more and more people release series the way Netflix does
Starting point is 00:30:45 where it's like the whole series out because one of the things that I felt that was I watched from the beginning. So I was hooked on Game of Thrones season one. I've watched every year when it came out and the thing the knock that I have on that long form where I actually felt that I have on that long form, where I actually felt the negative sides of that is I was watching it with my family who they benged all the seven seasons before the month before. So we're all watching. Here I feel like the bigger diehard got fan
Starting point is 00:31:18 because I've been watching since the beginning I've watched every year and can't wait, but because they watched it all together, they know more. Oh, way more. I was like, forget it all. Yeah, and they know I'm a fan, so they're looking at me like,
Starting point is 00:31:30 oh, can you believe it? And I'm like, fuck, I don't remember. Lots of tough argument because it does create urgency, you know, like having to anticipate and like everybody's on that same schedule. So it's like it's being talked about more and hype leading into, well, I don't know what's gonna to happen. You know, had that sort of element, you kind of remove that element when you put it all out there right?
Starting point is 00:31:50 Well, the question is which one makes more money? Is it the, we dropped the whole season all at once and you can binge it or is it that we dropped one episode once a week and then we would see that? You know, which one makes more money? The good news is we'll find out because Netflix doesn't do it that way. Netflix drops the season. Yep. And you can go and watch them all. HBO and I think Showtime does it the other way, right?
Starting point is 00:32:13 We're gonna drop it. They drip it. And remember HBO and Showtime are old media. I mean, it's new media in the sense that they're moving into the new space. But they were around for a long time. HBO's been creating content now for a while, and so they're following the old pattern, so I wonder, we'll find out, right?
Starting point is 00:32:28 We'll see which one works better. It'll be interesting. Hey, I wanna tell you guys about a conversation I had on speaking of media on Instagram. You know, one post that tends to irritate the crap out of me the most, and there's a lot that get on my nerves, but there's one that really irritates me. It's when you got that meathead dude
Starting point is 00:32:49 that says that overtraining doesn't exist. You guys ever get tagged on those? Well, you remember, I just told you that Joe Rogan had CT Fletcher. Yeah, CT Fletcher on there, and that was his big thing was that overtraining doesn't exist. What does silly stupid thing to say? I know it's a very sound tough cool thing, but it's silly and stupid because it's not true.
Starting point is 00:33:12 In studies, they're very clear on this. Here's a thing that I would like to ask someone like that. Like someone's like, the overtraining doesn't exist, okay? Is there an optimal amount of training, volume and intensity that you found for, okay? Is there an optimal amount of training, volume and intensity that you found for maximum results? Is there an amount? Like, why do you do the amount of sets that you do?
Starting point is 00:33:30 Why do you do? Is there an amount that you found that works best for you? And if they say yes, then anything over that is... Over-training. Do you mean anything over that? Or anything over that? Or a row of those is case point that it does exist. And that's extreme, right?
Starting point is 00:33:42 Yeah. And anything under that is under-training. So the idea with your training is to find the optimal amount to give you the best results. Anything over that is just doing more than you need to. And your study actually just came out that compared different total amounts of volume for the week. And I don't remember what the number of sets were, but there was like a lower number, a middle number, and then a higher number. And the middle number had the best results. The lower number had less, and the higher number had less. And I've
Starting point is 00:34:12 experienced this, like if I go too much, I get less results. If I go too little, I get less results. I hate that. I hate that when people say that overtraining doesn't exist. Yeah, too much damage to repair. I mean, that's where our focus is going to be, not on adapting. And like again, it's, it's dose dependent. Like, mean, that's where our focus is going to be not on adapting. And like again, it's dose dependent. Like, what's that proper dose that's going to help tip me over just enough to where now I'm in a set and you standard for my body versus I'm going to create
Starting point is 00:34:36 too much damage that I have to just concentrate on the repair process. And as a trainer, the besides helping your client change behaviors to become more healthy, the one of the most important things you do as a trainer is help helping your client change behaviors to become more healthy, the one of the most important things you do as a trainer is help figure that out for your client. Okay, what's the right amount? What's the right amount to give you the best result?
Starting point is 00:34:53 Well, you're putting so much value on the end, just the one factor of many factors that send the signals of the body to grow and adapt, right? Like it's intensity, that's the only thing you're speaking to when you speak to that, which to me is ignorant. When you ignore rest, recovery, nutrition, I mean, there's so many other pieces that will factor stress, you know, that factor into what that dose of training
Starting point is 00:35:22 should look like for optimal performance and optimal results. And to think that it's all based on intensity is fly out ignorant. And it's really ignorant when you speak this way. And you don't realize that you're the minority if that's what's worked for you. Because that's worked for you and your group of meet head friends that all identify with that way of training Doesn't mean that it works for a majority of the people and even then even the the people that it's Currently working for or has got gotten them some somewhat results That how long to how sustainable is that long term and you know, that's why I'm on the complete other side which is I'm always
Starting point is 00:36:06 trying to do as little as possible to elicit the most amount of change because I can always build on that. I can't, what I can't do is crush every workout in the gym and expect to maintain that progression. That's just not going to happen. Well, not to mention most of the time, I'm seeing that message is provided by somebody that either is very young and going through the process where basically, you know, you could do anything and something's gonna work. And then also, the other fact that, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:37 they may be anabolicly enhanced. Like that's another part of the process that like it may add and provide wiggle room to be able to recover even though you're throwing it all out. And or genetically gifted. And genetically get all those factors. Because you got to think that there's, there is people, okay? There's, there's, this, this is different from person to person.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Right. Exactly. There's, there's natural people, you know, that can just get away with hammering the fuck of their body eating Taco Bell and can look great. That doesn't mean they're healthy and it doesn't mean they're doing it the most optimal way just because we see visual change or a aesthetic difference in them. And when I hear people say shit like that,
Starting point is 00:37:13 like CT Fletcher and when I see posts like that, it's just, it's ignorant. It's typically somebody who has maybe figured out what has worked for them to get to them to this physical state that so many people might be aspiring to be like. Therefore they all suddenly think that they're an authority in that place and they present information like that. It's just terrible.
Starting point is 00:37:37 It's terrible because it's very misleading for the average person and it sets most people up for ultimately failure. What ends up happening to the average Jane or Joe that receives that message then goes to the gym and starts to get after it that way is inevitably they end up failing or they inevitably can't keep up that pace. Do you burn out or are they going to get an injury? And then they decide that it's just not in the cards for me. I'm not meant to look like him.
Starting point is 00:38:05 I'm not meant to ever be that fit. And so fuck it, I may as well go on the other extreme and go the other direction and not even try what's however, when, nah, it doesn't need to be like that. Yeah, hard work is a part of it, intensity is a part of it, but it's not all of it. If you go to the gym with that mentality and you're determined, you're gonna run into,
Starting point is 00:38:24 you're gonna hit a brick wall and potentially hurt yourself. And so I really get some of my nerves when that message is being spread that there's no such thing as overtraining. You can overdo anything in exercise. Definitely you can overdo. Remember, it's a stress on the body. The reason why your body gets stronger in the first place is because your body is trying to adapt to the stress. So that next time the same insult doesn't cause
Starting point is 00:38:48 problems. Can you overcome your body with too much of that stress? Absolutely. Can you provide a level of stress that is suboptimal so that your progress actually slows down? Maybe you're not over-training to the point where you're working out so hard where you're getting sick or hurting yourself or burning yourself out, but maybe you're just doing enough too much to where your progress is slowing down. Can that happen? Absolutely. I can't tell you how many times I've trained people who've come to me who are a real hardcore and I reduce their volume and the progress goes through the roof. That's all I do. I look at them, oh, you're doing too much. It's cut this down a little bit and watch what happens.
Starting point is 00:39:22 I have to mention, who the fuck wants to achieve it that way? Like who wants to do, I mean, I would much rather be as healthy and as fit as I can with as little as work as I need to do. Like, I would always be trying to do that. Like, I don't, heading that direction, you're only setting yourself up for the guy or the girl who has to live in the gym seven days a week. They're grudgingly. Yes, like two hours a day.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Hammering or punishing yourself to look just so you could look a certain way. Like no, that doesn't, that doesn't, that doesn't sound good. It sounds like you got a fucking problem with that sound. No, the message needs to be the right amount of training is what's gonna give you the best results.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And that is different from person to person. Oh, by the way. What? You know what we got for you this weekend? For what? Little merch sale. Oh, has everybody lost their mind? Yeah, out of their mind.
Starting point is 00:40:10 We're going insane. Yeah, like I saw the pricing everybody came up with. Apparently we're just trying to get rid of our stock. We are. It's a fire sale, Sal. It's like 50, some stuff 70% off. Yeah, a bunch. All the payroll. All the bunch. All a little peril.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Most, most a peril. All Memorial Day weekend. We want everybody outfitted with our gear. Yeah, yeah, most apparel because there's a couple things, but everything else is like 50 to 70% off. It's like cheap. I think there's some shirts, maybe like five bucks. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:40 That's crazy. I want to like shoot off cannons. Do you remember those commercials in the like 90s and 80s of like used car dealerships? I'm going crazy. I want to like shoot off cannons. Do you remember that remember those commercials in the like 90s and 80s of like used car dealerships? I'm going crazy. Oh, eat my hat. I'm out of my mind. Yeah I understand them now. Yeah, now it makes sense to Memorial Day Bloodlands. So it ends so the last day for this will be or it's all on Memorial Day the whole week. No, it's Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, ends Monday. So it's the whole Memorial weekend.
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Starting point is 00:42:34 Would you say that it's that way for everybody or just a majority? That's common. But there's a pretty wide. And love handles are real. Yeah, first thing they know I don't know what we hear about them, they're nice. Love handles, nothing. And love handles are real. Yeah, first they want to, they know I don't know what we hear about them. They're nice. And love handles nothing wrong with love.
Starting point is 00:42:46 No, I think it's different from person to person on an individual basis, but generally speaking, men store body fat first in their midsection. Women tend to store it in their lower body first and maybe the back of their arms. And where you store it first. So last place to go is the last place for it to go. Yeah, right. I think there's other factors too though. And you've brought it up on a
Starting point is 00:43:07 third podcast. So like why this area, I think, tends to be even more challenging. I think for inflammation reasons, I think for a week TVA, I think that that exaggerates this. Oh, the look. Yeah. Yeah. So the stomach, the lower stomach stomach pooch, now if you're talking about body fat at the bottom of your abs, then yeah, you gotta get leaner. But if you're talking about that your lower belly kind of sticks out a little bit, like it's not as tight,
Starting point is 00:43:35 well, that's an exercise solution. That would be exercises like vacuum poses and whatnot. But as far as getting leaner is concerned, I mean, okay, hormones in your health do have some influence in terms of where you store body fat. For example, women on testosterone, some interesting studies show that they tend to store body fat more like a man than they used to. It's not this dramatic change, but a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Same thing with men if they're taking estrogen or if they're estrogen levels are high, their body fat stores start to change a little bit. So it is influenced somewhat by hormones. But if you're otherwise healthy, this is all genetic. And one of the myths that just refuses to die in our space is the whole myth about spot reduction where you can pick an area on your body and train that area and that area will get leaner faster than other areas of your body. This one. So you can rub some sweet sweat on it and it just disappears.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Total, yeah, total bullshit. No, no, your body burns, but it's a systemic fat burn that happens. So your body doesn't, you know, if I'm working my legs out, it's not like my body's like, oh, we need to burn fat from this particular part of the body to fuel the legs. It's this like my body's like, oh, we need to burn fat from this particular part of the body to fuel the legs
Starting point is 00:44:46 It's this systemic Fat burn and the where your body pulls from is largely based on your genetics So you can't really spot reduce now you can't create the illusion of Spot reduction for example Let's say I want my arms to get leaner and so I am in a calorie deficit But I'm also working my arms out. As my arms become more muscular,
Starting point is 00:45:08 they will appear to be leaner at higher body fat percentages, just because there's more muscle underneath the body fat. But when it comes to love handles, it's not much you could do that, right? I mean, unless you decide not developing the sides of your waist, but that's not gonna be... Not only that, but I remember... Huge obliques.
Starting point is 00:45:21 The first, my first major cut when I was heading towards competing. This was actually before I even competed in my first time, but I knew that I was going to, so the year before, and I started dieting down. And I got all the way down to 7% body fat, and I actually still had this little pooch. And I remember being like, whoa, this is crazy.
Starting point is 00:45:41 This was something that, as a high school kid, I always had abs that was super skinny, and it wasn't until I had put on excess body fat and kept excess body fat on for many, many years. And then tried to lean down. Did I realize that I still had this? And what I noticed was every time that I would go back to like a caloric surplus, bulk up, put a little bit more muscle on and then come back down. I would chip away at that. And so it took actually about two shows of cutting and getting really, really lean before that completely went away.
Starting point is 00:46:17 And of course, I'm now carrying myself at a higher body fat. So I now see that right away. It comes right back to that place. And so it may seem like to some people like they're never going to get rid of it because they've never Taken their body fat down that low or done that multiple times to really try and get those stubborn areas. But eventually it's it's stored energy. It's stored energy and if you keep Pushing beyond where that's the last bit of stored energy that your body can tap from it will eventually tap into it But it'll use other places first and it's just one of the last places to go and you got to take your body to a new level of
Starting point is 00:46:54 Leanness before you'll see it completely go. Yeah, I mean in something else I want to touch on like if you're if you're healthy for generally healthy, good sleep, good diet, good activity, hormones seem to be imbalanced or balanced, I should say. You will store body fat in a way that makes sense. I don't really know any other way to put it. There is a typical way that women tend to store body fat and there's a typical way that men tend to store body fat. And if you've ever seen a woman store body fat like a man
Starting point is 00:47:25 or vice versa, it just, you can tell, like something's not right. Like if you saw a woman with really skinny legs and relatively skinny arms and a big belly, it would look a bit at a place. And if you saw a man with really, really fat thighs and lower body but a skinny upper body and a relatively lean waist.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Something wouldn't look right. This is anecdote now. There's not a whole lot of science to support this, but there is some science in a lot of anecdote that says that, you know, if your health is poor, you start to store body fat in a way that doesn't seem to make sense for your body or your gender. So you'll see women start to store more around their waist and around their gut. You'll see men start to store more body fat in their chest and in their lower body. And I think that's a result of hormones maybe being at a balance or maybe some inflammation.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I know belly fat is somewhat, you know, weekly, maybe according to the current research related to cortisol. So a kind of high stress type of a lifestyle may promote more of that. Lots of inflammation tends to look like gut inflammation. There hasn't been any, there hasn't been any real research on this cell like some, but it's because I remember as a trainer almost always. In fact, I can't actually think of a single time where this wasn't true, where if I had a man that actually did store by like, you know, we used to call it like the triangle, right? Where the guy was like, real big bottom and then he had this tiny top, which like you're
Starting point is 00:49:00 to your point, common to see that with my female clients. Right. You know, very common that I'd have a female client with big thighs and a butt, but still like a flat stomach and a smaller body, right? Rarely ever see that in men, but the times that I did see that in men and I had those kinds, those were always my men that actually had low testosterone levels and high estrogen levels. And or the point that you made about storing body fat in the chest, like if I had a guy that had, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:26 put a lot of body fat in his chest, he tend to have higher levels of estrogen or lower levels of testosterone. That was almost all the way. Every time that I can think of a recall right now, it was always that. And we don't have a lot of studies to support that. We do.
Starting point is 00:49:40 We have some. I mean, it's not super conclusive only because we haven't. And I look, I agree with that. I think that's the case. I would put my money on it, but the problem is we don't have studies where we take men and women and we purposely changed the hormones and watch what happens.
Starting point is 00:49:54 What we do is we do observational studies on people who have hormone imbalances or people, and there's more and more of this happening now, where we're looking at people who go through, you know, a sex change and they go on male or female hormones or hormone blockers and then we can start to witness and watch what happens to fat storage. But my point with all of this is this.
Starting point is 00:50:17 At the end of the day, whatever your goal is, whether it's fat loss or muscle gain, it's going to happen in a better, more aesthetic way if you're healthy and balanced. That's my point. So my point is, if you sacrifice your health for fat loss because that's your ultimate goal, you're probably not gonna get the type of aesthetics you're looking for, you push your body too hard
Starting point is 00:50:38 or you starve yourself too much or you do things to yourself that end up messing with your health. Like for example, if you're a male and you go on lots of antibox steroids and then you go off and then hormones are out of balance and you're like super like, at the end of the day you're gonna end up with more challenges for aesthetics. So health comes first and if you're healthy
Starting point is 00:50:58 then the way you'll burn body fat will probably be in a predictable fashion and it will look in a way that kind of makes sense. And this is, look, I'll tell you what, as a personal trainer, when you're working when you've worked with lots of people, I'm not gonna forget this. This was like six years in my career.
Starting point is 00:51:13 I had this female client and I was doing her body fat test. And the body fat test is the points that you typically do are bicep, tricep, sub scapula, super aliac crest. These are all the parts of the body. And I did all those and I went from her bicep to her tricep and I looked at the numbers and I tested it three, four times. And I'm like, okay, this is weird. Your tricep measurement is lower than your bicep measurement.
Starting point is 00:51:40 This almost never happens, especially in women. That's what I said. Never happens. So I paused for a second and I asked her, I said, have this almost never happens, especially in women. That's what I said. Never happens. So I paused for a second, and I asked her, I said, have you ever had any procedures on the back of your arms? She was like, why? It's like, why?
Starting point is 00:51:51 And she goes, why? And I said, well, I said, that's interesting because body fat is almost, oh, actually, every single time I've tested someone, it's higher in the back of the arm, in the front of the arm, especially women. She was, well, yeah, I've had liposuction in the back of my arms.
Starting point is 00:52:04 So, I mean, there is a way that people tend to store a body fat that is, that generally makes sense. And the healthier you are, you know, and you could tell this with, again, with men and women, as men and women gain weight, because you can be healthy in a pretty wide range of body fat. Like, a man could be 7%, or he could be as high as 18%, and still be healthy.
Starting point is 00:52:25 You know, still live a good, healthy lifestyle and still be, have great health. Same thing with women, there can be this wide range of body fat, but still be very, very healthy. At some point though, when the body fat gets high, then your health starts to suffer just from the body fat alone. But what you'll notice is people who are very healthy with higher body fat percentages
Starting point is 00:52:45 look better. It just looks like a healthier way to store body fat on the body. Women end up getting more curves and dads get, or guys get that kind of dad bod, where it kind of still looks good. So, health makes a big difference here. Do you think if it's more balanced that it would distribute throughout your body more and not just like aggregate towards one specific area versus another.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Well, it would match more of what people would expect a healthy man's body. It's hard to put words to because we're talking about aesthetics. But definitely we'll have less visceral body fat. You'll have less of that inflammatory body fat. I'm sure, look, we can all think of someone that we know or have met a man who has a big belly, but it's not, it's a hard big belly. And it looks inflamed.
Starting point is 00:53:34 There's a lot of visceral body fat. Or the guy who's got all the body fat in his neck. And it just doesn't look healthy. Or the guy who stores body fat almost like a woman does. And then vice versa. So getting healthy and being healthy only contributes This doesn't look healthy or the guy who stores body fat almost like a woman does and then vice versa. So, getting healthy and being healthy only contributes to a more aesthetic way of looking in terms of your body fat storage and then getting leaner becomes easier because a lot
Starting point is 00:53:57 of us push getting leaner to the point where we think we're satisfied with our aesthetics that happens sooner when you're healthy. Next question is from Kenan Gamachi. What are the best exercises that will transfer to athletics? Oh yeah. There's a little bit of a debate here sometimes, yeah? I think a lot of it, you know what depends, you know we always say depends.
Starting point is 00:54:16 This depends on where you're at and your athletic career. This depends where you're at. So if you're an early, if you're younger and you're getting into athletics, general strength, like squat, deadlift, overhead press, row, you know, get strong overall. I thought that Joe DeFranco made a really good case
Starting point is 00:54:35 for sled pushing. Oh, very good. The way he broke that down and explained like the angle that you're sprint mechanics. Yeah, and let's be honest, almost all athletes are sprinting at one point, whether it's a short burst or long, almost every athlete does that. And so when he breaks down how that emulates
Starting point is 00:54:57 the ground forces from that angle really, really well and transfers over to the field or whatever sport you're playing, I thought that was a really cool case. I think that we thought when we were coming up with a math performance, this is definitely one of those where we had to spend a lot of time thinking of what are those core values, what are those fundamental exercises that need to be included to build a base of strength. I think every athlete will benefit from having a base of strength. I think every athlete will benefit from having a base of strength. And I mean, the exception being
Starting point is 00:55:27 somewhat of the student athlete where we're just trying to build a lot more appropriate, receptive ability and movement in different directions and stability and really like stabilizing the joints. But then to build like this fundamental foundational strength is great.
Starting point is 00:55:45 And then from there, we can get more nuance. Like we can get to where we have the arguments of unilateral training versus bilateral training and barbells versus kettlebells and more specific types of exercises that gear just to that sport. I think that the first place we start is our fundamental strength, our, you know, our back loaded squats, our, you know, our, our dead lifts, our overhead press, our, you know, fundamental five, you know, major lifts, I think should be part of the conversation.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Yeah, and that's great when you're first getting into athletics. You want to build general overall strength later on, what's most important is specificity and as you get even more advanced, what's most important is injury prevention. That's really, you know, what separates the, when you're at the top of the top, when you're training at a super high level and you're competing at a very high level
Starting point is 00:56:44 where you've been doing this now for years and everybody you're competing against has been doing this for years and you guys take it all very, very seriously. The ones that do the best physically are the ones that have the least injuries, the least pain, and the most fluid movement. So then it becomes less about, you know, and we know this through experience and through the interviews now we've done with all these top level coaches of athletes and they'll tell you my goals is to keep them from getting hurt. Like I'm not trying to get them to add 50 pounds to any of his lifts.
Starting point is 00:57:14 I'm trying to keep him or her healthy and that's what will improve their performance. But generally speaking, I love split stance exercise for athletes. I love specific type of movements. I think the sled pulls and drives. You know, DeFranco made a phenomenal case for it. And he's the man. I like a lot of like rotational type movements in there. I feel like that's a in your standard strength program.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Because I think we all agree that the foundational stuff, like Justin said, has to be there, like to have a foundation to build on. I think the next unique type of movements in there are rotational type exercises included, just because I think that is missing in a lot of strength training programs, and that to me has so much carryover to all sports. I can't think, at least not up top of my head,
Starting point is 00:58:05 I can't think of a sport where you are in the same plane the entire time, most all of them are multifaceted movements and you need that rotational strength, not just for protection and safety, but also for maximizing your movement in the sport. So I think like landmine rotation and you know we the the lunge depressed with the landmine is such a cool movement that we put inside of performance. I think that's such a great movement. Yeah I think we
Starting point is 00:58:35 just started with the you know I wanted to start with strength just because I want to establish the fact that you know we need everything to mechanically communicate at a really high level before we start applying more force, more power, and expressing that beyond. So to that point, I think rotation is insanely important for athletes to work on and to constantly express within their training because that's, I mean, if you think of any sport, you know, your arm, your legs, your hips, everything is going to be in a rotational
Starting point is 00:59:13 movement and to be able to then, you know, take that stance or wherever you are in terms of your body position and apply force to that, like, you need to be familiar with that process. Yeah, let's give some exercises, that we really like. Right before we do that, one of the things that I think why I even feel like the sense that everyone's kind of doing this right now, avoiding doing that is giving specific exercises is because a bunch come to mind right away that I can think of can be awesome
Starting point is 00:59:41 and terrible at the same time. Yeah, I could build a case for against, it depends on what you guys. Right, so I think it's, I think what Justin's trying to say, I think is really important, like the foundation, good mechanics on some of these basic core lifts first are so important because an ice skater or a jump box could be an incredible movement for an athlete,
Starting point is 01:00:02 but it can also be a horrific one too if your mechanics are off. When I go to your normal big box gym and I see kids or people in general doing plyometrics or what we would categorize as athletic movements, a lot of times the mechanics are so poor that it's defeating a lot of the purpose of the exercise and it goes from being a one of the best exercises that an athlete can do to one of the worst exercises that an athlete can do. So I think that's important to note that as we rattle off some things.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Yeah, I would say most people listening right now, I mean, we're going to, I'm going to give you some general exercises that have a lot of carryover for a lot of sports. Again, this is general. It depends on the person I'm talking to and where you're at in your career and what your sport is. But generally speaking, I like trap bar deadlifts over standard deadlifts for most sports. I like split stance exercises, a lot walking lunges, Bulgarian split stance, multi-plainer lunges especially.
Starting point is 01:01:05 I love that kind of stuff. If you have the mechanics and if you know how to do them properly in terms of how to apply this exercise, plyometric type exercises can be phenomenal. If they're done properly, if they're done wrong, totally wasting your time and to Adam's point, I have yet to see anybody in a regular gym do them right. Only time I ever see anyone do them right
Starting point is 01:01:24 is when they're with an actual strength coach who understands, you know, the purpose behind them and what you're supposed to be doing. Medicine ball work, same thing. I love overhead presses for some extra for some sports, again, done properly. The isolation type movements don't have a lot of carry over unless you have an imbalance or unless you need to focus specifically on an area of your body, but a lot of the bodybuilding type isolation movements, probably not, probably
Starting point is 01:01:54 not something you want to spend a lot of time doing. That's a really good point, Sal, is like, I would say that for sure, all full body type of movements, probably from the athletic perspective, Trump, a majority of all isolation exercises. Generally speaking, yeah. This rarely ever is unless you have a very specific position for a specific sport, like let's say a picture or somebody that is working on one specific area.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Even then, I mean, you're using the whole body. Right. Yeah, like unless you're sitting down and you're doing stuff just solely with your arms. But yeah, like to, to that point, I think it's really important to add in carries and, and ways of being able to, you know, be able to like sustain this load and this force while going through movement. So I really like carries for that reason, like farmer carries overhead carries, things like that where you can, you know, you can really concentrate on stabilizing this weight while being pulled left to right front and back. Right. And I will say this also, use weights for what weights are best used for, which is
Starting point is 01:03:01 to get stronger. So That's a broad application. You can get stronger in a lot of different ways, but one thing that athletes sometimes do that I think is a mistake is they think to themselves, I'm gonna build lots of endurance and I'm gonna use weights to do that. Probably not the best use of weights. Wates are phenomenal, resistance is phenomenal,
Starting point is 01:03:19 and making you stronger at improving your strength. So use it for that. Now, as you get more specific and high, high level, that may even go out the window. But for most people listening right now, don't go to your, like if you're a Jiu-Jitsu guy and you're like, I need more endurance. So what I'm gonna do is put 10 exercises together
Starting point is 01:03:36 into your crazy circuit. Not the best use of weights. Like if you want more stamina and endurance, there's other ways to get that that are better with resistance. The best thing you're getting from that is strength. So use it for that. And even to the plyometric point where people would think immediately, plyometrics are
Starting point is 01:03:51 the best for athletes because it is a great expression of force production. I could generate all this force, but to emphasize and highlight the importance of decelerating I think is something that athletes could focus a lot more on because that, you know, if you really, like, reinforce the fact that I can now stabilize what force I've generated, that's where we prevent injuries and we elongate our career. The next question is from the real Josh Gill. Is there any truth behind Reuidrage?
Starting point is 01:04:23 Is it due to improper dosing abuse, or is it just steroids amplifying anger that's already there? Yeah, that's, it's all sterile. You're already an asshole. Yeah, all steroids does is make an asshole a bigger asshole. You could be, and you could be a total, and how many guys have you guys met
Starting point is 01:04:42 that are super docile and nice sweet guys that are on copious amounts of gear. So there's exceptions to every rule. This idea that steroids make people assholes or whatever. But I mean, there's certain things that, again, like if you're already somebody who has got a massive ego and already cocky, have a temper, and then you fuel that person and you give them 20 extra pounds of muscle. Like what do you think's going to happen?
Starting point is 01:05:10 Yeah. He's going to walk around with his chest all puffed out and shoulder bumping everybody in the bar and wanting to express this newfound strength that he has. So yeah, I think that's where we get mistaken that it's the steroids. Follows like, no, you have an asshole who doesn't have good control of his ego and is getting fueled by all that. Therefore, you get that. If you're a very self-aware person and already kind of a mild temperament and you take
Starting point is 01:05:39 steroids, you may not see any sort of difference in your temperament whatsoever. Yeah. When it comes, so here's a problem. The first of the question is, is there any truth behind roared rage? I would say there is some truth, but the way that the media portrays it is complete myth. So the way that the media would portray it is normal guy, totally sane, takes animal steroids, loses his his mind murders his family
Starting point is 01:06:06 or you know or gets in a road rage accident on the road and head on a window. Yeah That's probably false, but here's here's what we do now And here's the other thing too. There are no studies on the doses of testosterone that bodybuilders and athletes tend to use like We don't have any studies of men taking one gram or two grams of testosterone a week because they would consider that, what's the word, unethical,
Starting point is 01:06:32 to gather a bunch of men and give them that much testosterone to see what would happen. They just don't do that. Plus they would have to be a long study. So really don't know from a scientific perspective. But here's what we do now. Does testosterone influence behavior? Absolutely. It definitely does. Testosterone is a driver of libido. It's the main driver of libido
Starting point is 01:06:52 and man. It is a driver of dominance and aggression in man, but it's also a feel good hormone in man. So, it's not like you take testosterone and you're pissed off. I think if anything, it just makes you more confident and more feel good in that sense of aggression because aggression doesn't mean necessarily I'm aggressive to hurt you. It may mean I'm aggressive to be more successful. I'm aggressive to accomplish my goals, whatever. In fact, there's studies that show that men when their testosterone levels get low become more irritable and angry as a result of it, because they just feel shitty. But testosterone does influence brain development also. We know this where women, given testosterone, will switch changes in their brain.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Men, you know, with lower testosterone, their brain also starts to change. So it does kind of drive behavior a little bit. It does do that. So can high doses take someone who has a predisposition for maybe some outbursts of insane rage? Can it maybe push them over the edge possibly? I think the other thing you want to consider is there's a bit of a bias of who selects, who
Starting point is 01:08:06 self-selects themselves that takes steroids. Think of the average anabolic steroid, long term anabolic steroid user. I can generally say, this is not true for all of them, but generally speaking, you're going to have a higher rate of insecurity, a higher rate of body image issues, a higher rate of maybe some other types of personality issues. And so do those things correlate with bad behaviors? I absolutely. I definitely think so. If you're that super insecure dude that resents the world because you got picked on when
Starting point is 01:08:40 you were a kid and because you're whatever you're not big and now you're taking antibiotics and now you're this big dude and now you're creating this big aura that I'm not the scared kid and I you know, I tap my body up and I shave my head and I fucking jacked and I'm gonna walk around. You may actually act like a complete asshole. You may actually assert yourself in a way because you have a kind of a personality issue but that's a self-selection bias in the sense that if we gave everybody testosterone, I don't think you'd see more of that. I just think the type of guys that take lots of testosterone, they tend to fall in that category a little bit. I've seen both. I mean, I've seen people that are super reasonable and they're in it just for their own interests and our cool is can be. And like super humble, nice guys,
Starting point is 01:09:25 and I've seen douchebags. And it's like, so to pinpoint it to steroids is, you know, I think it might actually accentuate. Yeah, somebody who has a propensity towards, you know, feeling this anger and this rage and wanting to express it because, you know, they feel this confidence is dominance. You know, maybe that's more fuel in that direction.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Like if you took an unhealthy person, like mentally unhealthy, you know, lots of body image issues and self image issues. And then you take, give them lots of steroids. It's gonna just build their ego more, build this false, of course, sense of, you know, sense of self even more. Look, I tell you what, I did Jiu Jitsu for six years and I trained with a lot of pro MMA fighters
Starting point is 01:10:12 who would come in and take classes all the time. And I hung out with a lazy, and these are legit dudes that could kick everybody's ass. Like for sure, we go to the bar, they will, I mean, easy, like they could hold, they could eat a sandwich with one hand and beat the crap out of most people with the other hand. And most of these guys who legit can kick everyone's ass,
Starting point is 01:10:29 the calmest, fucking chillest. Every now and then, and they back down. You get a dick. Yeah, right. Every once in a while, because you got that guy who's doing it because he's actually inside a scared person. But the real ass kicking dudes,
Starting point is 01:10:44 they're cool, they tend to back down now, man. I don't wanna fight you, like, you know, whatever. But then sometimes you get these dudes that used to be 90 pounds soaking wet, who've been on gear for five years and have these big red faced, rooted out dudes. Those guys tend to wanna push everybody around and show everybody how tough they are.
Starting point is 01:11:00 I don't think it was a steroids. I think that's what was inside and the steroids just made them, like Adam said, a bigger person. But again, can dosing affect this? We don't know, man. We don't have any studies on guys taking three grams of tests for three years. You know, I've taken lots and little and I don't really remember a major difference of like my aggression at different levels like for sure. The only thing that I do remember I would you were more irritable when you first came off. Oh, sure. I mean if I'm going to be honest. What about empathy? I remember you talking about that a little bit. What do you mean like as far as being while I was on it? No, like you have a
Starting point is 01:11:41 little less empathy when you're on versus off. I don't know. I think I have more empathy now because I've gone through all the hormonal stuff. I have more empathy for men and women that deal with hormonal issues. You know what they're going through? Yeah, because I know what they're going through and how depressing and hard that was for me. I was also probably more likely if I got in a lot of fights when I was younger or definitely not as I've gotten older.
Starting point is 01:12:04 In fact, I think the last time I got into a lot of fights when I was younger or definitely not as I've gotten older. In fact, I think the last time I got into a major fight, like a street fighter, and he was like 25. And I think when I think I would be more likely to on steroids, but not for the reasons you think, not because I think the steroids enhanced this or brought this rage out. It's probably because I'm care when I'm on gear, I'm carrying 30 pounds more muscle. And I'm like, well, you want to fuck with me and test with me. I know what I'm capable of doing. And so I think that that that me gives you that ego that inflates the ego, right. And that makes you want to test that. It's not because there's this
Starting point is 01:12:40 chemical inside of me that's like, ooh, that makes me wanna just punch this guy. It's more like, I'm kind of, I'm fucking jacked and yoke and strong. And this guy's pushing my buttons right now. And that's all ego stuff. That's not a chemical thing that's being there him. That's like my insecurity of being smaller and weaker, but now being stronger and someone fucking with me and wanting to express that.
Starting point is 01:13:01 So I remember years ago, I read this interview with Hicks and Gracie, who's one of the, you know, of the Gracie family, widely regarded as the best jujitsu guy in the family. And someone asked them, hey, do you get, when people come up to you, first off, the interview said, people must come up to you and fuck with you all the time,
Starting point is 01:13:16 knowing that you're Hicks and Gracie, and he goes, oh yeah, all the time. And he says, how do you feel about it? And he goes, I don't care. And he goes, what do you mean? And he goes, well, how would you feel if a five year old came up to you and said they want to fight you?
Starting point is 01:13:26 And it's true because he's such a bad ass that he sees a guy like that. And he's like, oh man, he feels sorry for him. Yeah, like this, you don't need to test yourself. But if you're the kind of person that you feel insecure and then you want to test yourself because now it makes you feel better to do so or get something to back down. And I think that's where it gets, that's where the, the, this totally gets its legs. Is that a lot of people know that guy, a lot of people know that guy who got on gear,
Starting point is 01:13:49 and then all of a sudden is acting like a bad ass and trying to make himself feel better as always trying to do. But, but, but testosterone does have some behavioral changes. It's just like when women are on estrogen or birth control, they're subtle, right? Like they say that women will have different preferences of men, maybe have a little bit different preferences
Starting point is 01:14:08 and foods and whatever. I think that the changes are subtle. And it's funny, like if you ask guys, you know, hey, does your libido go up on testosterone? Everybody be yeah. Does your aggression go up? No, well, it drives both of those things, but aggression doesn't necessarily mean aggression to fight.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Yes, it's total or angry. Right, because I could put the spin on the pod man. I'd say what, when the aggression that I get when I'm on testosterone is to work out more, and to be more productive, like I get up earlier, I work harder through the day, like I'm in positive mood, like I'm happier, like there's a lot of positive things that comes from the high hormone levels.
Starting point is 01:14:45 That's what I mean. I think people think of aggression as this in the context of anger and abusing people. That is aggression, yes, but there's another side to aggression where like you can meet people who have never gotten a nephysified, never been violent towards anybody who are just extremely successful at a particular endeavor.
Starting point is 01:15:06 That they're aggressive towards success towards an endeavor. Everybody listening knows what I'm talking about because you've experienced it yourself. You've had a goal and you've just like, I'm going to fucking accomplish that. And it's an aggressive feeling. That's what testosterone drives. As far as the anger and how you take it out on people, that's a personality behavioral issue. And if you've got that issue, sure testosterone can fuel that
Starting point is 01:15:27 because now you feel like you're invincible. Although I'm gonna tell you something right now, yeah sure a stronger person is gonna be more formidable than a weaker person, but it doesn't guarantee you're gonna be a bad-ass. So if you're on gear and you think you're about, I've seen far too many dudes that were massive, get the asses handed to them by people who are 50, 60, even a hundred pounds smaller than them,
Starting point is 01:15:50 and that is a hard fall, man. That is a hard fall for me, you got like, oh, I thought I was tough. Yeah. And this 150 pound dude just put me to sleep. Next question is from A Russell Fit. What kind of dating advice will you give your sons? I like this question.
Starting point is 01:16:05 That's a good question. Yeah, I mean, this is a tough one because, I mean, I don't really know what the world's gonna look like by the time the real date. Yeah, well, don't you guys think too, like I'm trying to wrap my brain around this question right now? Don't you guys think that it'll be different at different stages in his life?
Starting point is 01:16:22 Totally. Like, I mean, I wrote a post about love, not that long ago. And I feel like I would love to give that advice to my son, but he probably won't be ready for that type of advice till he's like 20 something. You know what I'm saying? That's probably way above his thought process
Starting point is 01:16:38 at 16 dating his first love or his first girlfriend or what that's so. Well, I mean, Sal, you're the closest to this. You just recently mentioned that your son's kind of talking to girls now and you're interested in that. So, like, what are you talking to him about, Ryan? Well, I'm telling him to do, because I think the tendency is to want to tell your kid, like, don't trust anybody.
Starting point is 01:16:59 And take care of being able to protect yourself on all that shit. Okay, so here's a deal. He's 100% he's gonna get hurt. That's just everybody does. It's just a part of life. What I don't want him to do is to become jaded by what may happen.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Jaded by, he likes a girl and then she said she likes him but then she doesn't like him or maybe she likes his friend or jaded that a girl broke up with him or viewing girls in a particular way. Like, I want him to know that that's part of the process and to always rest your respect. So what I told him is, look, I said, first of all, don't lie. So whatever girl you're talking to, if you really like her, tell her you're really
Starting point is 01:17:41 like her. If you don't like her, you just like her attention, make sure you tell her you don't really like her. And that may feel hard for you, but she may really like you. And if you don't tell her that you, you don't not interested in her that way, that could be very hurt for her for her. So be very, very honest. I also told him that, you know, we had the sex talk and all that stuff. And I said, you know, there's going to be things that you're going to want to do with a girl. But it's much more valuable and it's worth way more when you actually really care about each other. So think about that as well. I'm not trying to demonize anything too.
Starting point is 01:18:15 I don't want to tell my kids, like, don't do this and don't do that because if there anything like I am, or I was, I just go in the opposite direction. So it just doesn't work. And it's on respect. Show her respect. Be very honest. Make sure if you really like a girl that you say nice things
Starting point is 01:18:33 about her to your friends because what you don't want to happen is you try to sound cool to your buddy and you talk about this girl. And then you really get serious with this girl. And then you feel weird when your buddies around this girl. Because now you've said, bad thing. It's always say nice things about her if you really like her, if she's a crap or whatever, say what you want and you'll, again, don't date her.
Starting point is 01:18:52 You know, say nice things. Be just, be a good human being is kind of, you know, generally what I talk about. Because especially with sons, I think sometimes dads do the whole, you know, hey, like that, you know, girl, and make sure you, you know, you're not doing them any favors by talking about, he's going to get plenty of that from
Starting point is 01:19:06 his buddies. I really like the respect and honesty thing, especially the honest thing, because when I think of one of the first big lessons that I learned dating girls, and then eventually dating women, was early years in middle school junior high high school days. You know, if you didn't like a girl or you wanted to, or if you were with a girl then you wanted to break up, you sent your friends over to break up to her or you lied about the reason why you couldn't be together
Starting point is 01:19:36 or why you didn't want to hang out. You know, you're so scared to be honest with them or even yourself that you hid behind all of your insecurities and you weren't more open and vulnerable and honest with them. And no matter how hard of the conversation is and there's going to be very hard one son, you're gonna have these things that you are afraid to say
Starting point is 01:19:59 but if it's truly how you feel and how you think, I think it's really important that you express that. That was something that I learned later, and it was one of the best lessons because I like to think that for the most part, most all the girls that I dated, I have a pretty good relationship with or have a pretty good view of who I am
Starting point is 01:20:20 as far as my integrity and honesty and who I am as a person because I got really good later on of being really honest. And the more honest that I was, even if it might have hurt their feelings or even if it might have broke their heart, I think that later on they always end up respecting you more for being honest to them.
Starting point is 01:20:37 And I think in relationships, especially with being a boy and a girl dating a young girl is this propensity to want to lie and deceive and do that type of stuff. I think that will not only hurt you the most and potentially hurt others, it also tarnished you and your name and your integrity. I think that's really important. And so learning to establish those behaviors at a very young age I think is really important.
Starting point is 01:21:10 But man, it's really hard for me to wrap my brain around. First of all, not because I don't have my son yet. And you know, what stages of his life will he need the, what advice? Maybe talking about dating robots by that time. Yeah. It's funny because my oldest, he's already interested in a girl and like they hold hands and stuff. And I mean, he kind of talks about her, but they're just really good buds.
Starting point is 01:21:33 You know, and so I'm, for the most part, it's super innocent at this point, like his age and everything, and just getting the attention is everything, right? And I think as it progresses and he gets older, I just wanna remind him to just play it slow, you know, to really befriend, you know, this girl he's interested in and learn way more about her as much as possible before just like getting this, I mean, we get in this trap of like being infatuated with somebody
Starting point is 01:22:05 and then we just, like everything, you just stop hanging out and it gets like a rational after a while where all you can think of, like this physical, you know, demand that you have, like this drive that you have going, I remember those days and just to be, stay cool, man, you know, keep your cool. Well, I really slow.
Starting point is 01:22:25 I remember the age of like, what I think you're alluding to right now, that like probably, I would say 15 to 20-ish is a way different conversation than the nine to 12-ish age or whatever like that. Like, I remember being a young teenage boy in my advice to that kid, because I remember like, oh, God, my poor high school girlfriend, if she listens or ever hears like, you know, when you're hormones are flying, all you want to do is kiss and make out and fool around. And like, that's all that was physically driven crazy to a point where it would cause
Starting point is 01:23:00 fights between me and my girlfriend, because that's all I wanted to do, you know, because that's all my hormones are driving everything at that point. And I don't have the awareness yet to really be aware of that. Like you, you just want it, you know, you want it. You can't understand why your girlfriend doesn't want it all the time like you. And so you cause this back and forth thing. So I would probably come to become the fun. If he's gonna end up being anything like me, I definitely would have that conversation
Starting point is 01:23:24 around that time. And my work out, like go play sport, go do something, be active, be busy. come the fuck, if he's gonna end up being anything like me, I definitely would have that conversation around that time and my- Go work out, like go play sport, go do something, be active, be busy, you know, as a distraction, because it will, it'll consume you, as a younger boy going through that process of like that physical thing, it's new.
Starting point is 01:23:38 And especially when you first start dating girls or talking to girls, like I'm talking like 13, 14 years old, it's like, and one of the reasons why I told my boy to be just honest is I think at that, I know how I was at 13, if a girl liked me, I liked her back. Just because she liked me, I didn't really like her, but it was a girl and she's giving me attention. And so that's one of the conversations I had with him too.
Starting point is 01:23:59 I'm like, hey, look, just because a girl's giving you attention, doesn't mean you have to like her or that you actually like her. It's okay to be honest with yourself and with her and be like, no, I think I just wanna be friends. The other thing too is that the world has changed quite a bit. Like, kids don't talk on the phone anymore. This is quite interesting, it's all text. So I've had the conversation around that
Starting point is 01:24:21 and I told my son, I said, I recommend, if you do like a girl and you guys are texting each other To get on the phone and have phone calls I said because here's what will happen if you don't do that the first time I take you guys or the first 10 times I take you guys to take you guys to the mall to hang out You're not gonna know what the hell to say to each other. So it's super awkward because you're used to texting Get on the phone talk to each other. I think it also will reduce the amount of shit because I think through text, people feel safe
Starting point is 01:24:47 to say you do whatever. Yeah, and it gets misinterpreted. You know, like a lot of times too, that's a trap. Like, and plus text is traceable, all that weird stuff to go with. I think, yeah, between phone calls or like, you know, those video chats, I think that's the way to go. No, that's really good advice
Starting point is 01:25:03 because I would think that it got to be probably a big challenge for the generation growing up right now, is that, you know, they, I remember when Inzo first told us that that's how you talked to a girl at a party out that was so insane to me that you Facebook friend her first before you walk over and talk to her. Imagine how awkward that would be, you just taxed and then you see each other.
Starting point is 01:25:20 Right, like, you built this whole relationship on Facebook or Instagram or on whatever platform. And then you actually get in front of each other and you're like a different person. Because some people are really confident behind a phone and can do all that stuff. And then they get in person and they also can climb up and they get all socially awkward.
Starting point is 01:25:37 And this person, if this ends up being a partner, a boyfriend, girlfriend, or one day, a lifelong partner, you're gonna have to live with each other and be with each other and be around each other 24 or seven, not always having this medium of a virtual social media between you. The other thing too, and I'll apply this to anything
Starting point is 01:25:55 when it comes to kids. The biggest, the most popular question I get asked is how do I get my kids to eat healthy? And this is the same thing, you know, because I could tell you all day long what you can say to your kid, but what they're going to learn the most is what they observe and watch. So if you want your son to be a certain way to girls, then you need to be that way to his mom or to your girlfriend or whatever woman you're around with them. That's where they're gonna learn it.
Starting point is 01:26:25 That's where they'll learn the, how they should behave around the opposite sex is what they're observing. If they see you say, hey, you make sure you respect girls, but then you yell at their mom and you're disrespectful in your shitty person, that's the example that they'll learn. That's what they'll internalize.
Starting point is 01:26:41 They'll go, oh, that's how women are treated or that's how relationships are. It's what they'll internalize. They'll go, oh, that's how women are treated. Or that's how relationships are. It's what they're going to be watching. So at the end of the day, what you say is that nearly is important is how you behave. And so if you want to raise sons that have good dating lives and good relationships, you want to raise self-confident sons who know that they're cared for, who also have a father
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