Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1048: What to do if there is Only Junk Food to Eat, Making Sure Deep Stretching Doesn't Impede Muscle Growth, the Difference Between MAPS Prime & Prime Pro & MORE

Episode Date: June 7, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by MAPS Fitness Products (www.mapsfitnessproducts.com), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the biggest difference between Prime and Prime Pro, how to get through the times you can’t access a lot of clean calories, making sure stretching doesn’t impede muscle growth, and how to best utilize 30 minute sessions as a trainer. Suns out, legs out! The guys are starting to rock their Vuori shorts. (4:39) Rolex giant Watches of Switzerland begins London IPO. (7:30) Jay-Z: Hip hop’s first billionaire. (10:50) Cryptocurrency pioneer pays $4.57m for lunch with Warren Buffett. (17:24) Justin the hoarder: Certain ‘Skinny Dipped’ almond flavors seem to be disappearing at Mind Pump HQ. (19:39) Considering the male disposability hypothesis. (21:20) This is just the beginning…Parents given chance to use sperm from deceased son to produce male heir raises ethical concerns. (27:43) How insecurities defy logic. (34:55) #Quah question #1 – What’s the biggest difference between Prime and Prime Pro? If I get Prime Pro do I have a need for Prime. (46:54) #Quah question #2 - How to get through the times when you can’t access a lot of clean calories due to bad planning or just unexpected life events? (1:00:04) #Quah question #3 – As a former gymnast I value flexibility. I am only a few months into weight training and want to make sure my stretching doesn’t impede muscle growth. When is the best time to deep stretch? Before working out, after working out or on rest days? (1:08:00) #Quah question #4 – Being an LA Fitness trainer we only work with 30-minute sessions and two times a week is most common. What would your game plan be with someone who is trying to lose weight or someone who is trying to gain strength? (1:13:02) People Mentioned Ben Pakulski (@bpakfitness)  Instagram IFBB LEGEND FLEX WHEELER (@officialflexwheeler)  Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned June Promotion: MAPS Strong ½ off!! **Code “STRONG50” at checkout** Visit Vuori Clothing for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Skinny Dipped for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners!  **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Rolex giant Watches of Switzerland begins London IPO debut with £650m valuation Artist, Icon, Billionaire: How Jay-Z Created His $1 Billion Fortune Cryptocurrency pioneer pays $4.57m for lunch with Warren Buffett, who called Bitcoin 'rat poison squared' Considering the Male Disposability Hypothesis Parents given chance to use sperm from deceased son to produce male heir raises ethical concerns Watch Three Identical Strangers | Prime Video - Amazon.com Prime Bundle | MAPS Fitness Products - Mind Pump Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey but in the first 41 minutes we do our introductory conversation. Here's what we talked about. I mentioned Doug and Adam's bright white legs. Looks like they need some sun. They're exposing them because they're wearing the new Viori shorts.

Now Viori is the company that makes the best at leisure wear that we've ever found. It looks phenomenal and we have a discount for you. Here's what you do. Go to vioriclothing.com. That's v-u-o-r-i clothing.com forward slash mind pump and use the code that you see on that page for 25% off. Adam then brings up a new IPO that's coming out.

Watches of Switzerland, this is an interesting one. Company apparently is worth over a billion dollars and I had no idea who they were. We're watching watches of Switzerland. This is an interesting one company apparently is worth over a billion dollars and I had no idea who they were. We're watching watches over here. Speaking of billionaires, JZ, the first billionaire, I think in hip hop, is the first insane. Then we talked about Warren Buffett's $4.5 million lunch. No, the lunch didn't cost $4.5 million.

That's expensive. That's how much it costs just to sit with him at the lunch. No, the lunch didn't cost $4.5 million. That's expensive. That's how much it costs just to sit with him at the lunch. That's insane. Then I talked about the hoarder that we have here in the studio just in stealing all the whole. The whole. The peanut butter skinny dipped almanes, you fucker. Now remember skinny dips. So good. Alman's are all men's with a thin coat of chocolate, and it's amazing. The macros are really, really good. It is the snack that we recommend to fitness competitors

in particular. And we have a discount for you. Go to skinnydipped.com forward slash mind pump, enter the code mind pump, and you'll get 20% off. Then I talked about, let's see if I could say this word this time, the disposability of men, did I say that right? Disposability.

Disposability, why am I saying it weird? I don't understand. You made it weird. I know, once I make it weird, it's over. Anyway, we talked about why men are disposable, evolutionarily speaking. Then we talked about the sperm from a deceased son. No, it's not a weird porn. This is actually what happened.

We talked about raising our own clones. That's how the actual transition there. And our insecurities in raising our children, then we get you back with the heartstrings there. Then we get to the fitness part of this episode. The first question, what is the difference between maps prime and prime pro? Remember, maps prime is our program that teaches you how to get your body warmed up properly

for your workout. Prime pro is all about correctional exercise. And what we do in that part of the episode, we talk about the programs, but more importantly, we talk about how you can get your body ready for your workout better, regardless of whether or not you have the program or not. Next question, how do you get through the times when you can't get access to good food? Let's say you're on a trip, there's not a lot of healthy food around you.

What are some strategies? Next question, this person is a former gymnast, they value flexibility, but they also like to know when they can train their flexibility, when's the best time that will not impede muscle growth. Is it before the workout, after the workout, or on rest days? And the final question, this is a personal trainer from LA Fitness who only does 30-minute sessions. How can they put together the best workout for the clients in just 30 minutes?

It's not hit, believe it or not. We talk all about how to take that 30 minutes and maximize it for their clients. Also, this month, Maps Strong is 50% off. Now, Maps Strong is the Maps program inspired by strong man training. So, what does that mean? That means you go to your normal jam, that has barbells, dumbbells, bench, and all that stuff. And you do unconventional lifts. You work on strength and stamina, because, remember, competing as a strongman requires both. But this program is suitable for everybody. It is a posterior chain heavy program.

So if you want to develop a strong back and a strong and round back side, this program is definitely for you. Again, it's 50% off. Here's what you got to do. Go to mapsstrong.com, M-A-P-S-S-T-R-O-N-G, dot com, and use the code strong50, S-T-R-O-N-G, 50 for the discount. Do it now because this promotion will be over this month. You know it's cool about the weather right now? At least for you guys.

For actually for you guys, it's really cool. I'm really excited for you guys. For us, but not you. Yeah, well, you know, I've got that natural tan. And I see, you know, Doug and Adam walking in with their, actually nice looking Viori shorts you guys got on right now. Thank you. Thank you. And I'm working on those cats.

Yeah, and I'm like, I can't tell where the socks end and the legs start. You know what I'm saying? The white, the white on white. Wait, wait, I unleash mine. That's what the world is. No, it's like a beacon of hope. No, they can see you from space. Yeah, that's it.

Doug is right. What are you rocking, Doug? You have the different shorts in them. Yeah, I got the core shorts. You like those ones? I like them a lot. They're very, they have a little bit of stretch to them. They have a little liner in there,

but not one that grabs you too hard. You know what I'm saying? You like to be, you like to be nestled in the, in the, like, you're very nestled. Well, no, those are, that's a heart. Do you wear, because they have a liner, do, do, do you wear underwear in those? Or do you free ball?

No, I'm wearing underwear. That's a personal question. That's very personal. I'll swim in those the ones that you wear. No, these are, these are swimshorts. Yeah, yeah. I'll, I'll swim in them or I'll wear them around They're good for day to day. Yeah, you can they look you can kind of dress them up or you can jump in the pool with them That's kind of cool about what are the ones you have on I got the banks. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah

So the banks are they're a little more formal. They don't have the lining inside of them So they look a little bit more I don't know dressy you could say for short. Yeah, you can't free ball nose Yeah, no, you don't want to do Way too breezy Justin would like that. I would You'd like I sit right across me We don't want to see red beard The drapes of math You're a pirate

I'm excited red beard and easy man had easy. Manhattan Beach is gonna be beautiful, man. We got a beautiful week head. I know up here we got all high 70s, even 80s all week long, which I imagine it'll be pretty close to that down there in LA, Manhattan Beach area. Dude, every time we do those events, I come back with like $300 worth of more of your glory clothing.

Absolutely. It's just easy to leave. Their stuff is, and I'm not just saying this, because I'm obviously being paid to say, I love their shit, man, I wear it all the time. Well, everybody in the room right now literally has Viorion. Even I think Justin has the least with his hat, and everybody has something on our nose.

Yeah, it's funny. We can still there. I'm looking at pictures from the last like six, you know, I'll go through my phone sometimes and look at pictures and be like, oh, yeah, I remember when I went there. And then I noticed I'm looking at pictures from the last six, you know, I'll go through my phone sometimes and look at pictures and be like, oh yeah, I remember when I went there. And then I noticed I'm like, every single one I'm wearing a Viori clothing.

Like I've gone above and beyond. I think they're hugging our bodies. I think that their sponsorship's getting paid just by us. Yeah. But I got their stuff. Me too. These morons will keep paying these guys to talk about our shit.

Hey man, I don't care. If it looks good and it's comfortable, I'm down. Yeah, I'll rock it all day. I'm excited, man, I can't wait to get down there. What was the IPO that we were bringing up earlier? Oh, the watches of Switzerland. So keep your eye out on that. There's a company that was bought like seven years ago

for like 200 million and it's now, it just opened up and it's evaluated now at $1.1 billion. And it's just a place where you can buy like Rolexes and brightlings and panor eyes. What do you mean a place like an online business? Yeah, they're an online business. I mean, right now if you look like they're Instagram, they're only like 20 something thousand followers.

So for a billion dollar company, it's only got about 20 thousand something people that are watching them on Instagram But it's a Switzerland based company that is basically resells watches like Rolex and bright-ling and things like that Re-sale Yeah, they're yeah, they're used. Oh, okay. Yeah, so it's really popular for someone to take like a like a watch like this and You know after 20 years of wearing it, 10 years of wearing it, or they need money. And so you trade them in, because they hold their value. Yeah.

So what's the, that's what's just going to ask you, how, how well do they hold their value? It, well, it all depends. So like the, the Daytona that I have on right now is a limited edition. So I remember like three years after I had bought it, I went and checked it. I went to see if I were to trade it and I could actually get more money for it

used than I bought it for. So some of them go up. Interesting. So if it's a limited edition or a very rare or sought after model, then it could potentially go up. It's just like a classic car, right? Like a classic car is the same way too. Like some models are sought after.

There's only so many of them. So they're worth a lot of money. They actually can go up in value. Is that somewhat predictable? Like can you see which ones you think will probably go up and value or not? Kind of. Like you know, you look at like when the Rolex Pepsi edition, which is the the blue and red dial

when that came out, the limited green one. Pepsi like the Pepsi Cola? Yeah, they just it's not Pepsi. Oh, okay. They did anything with them. It just it looks Cola? Yeah, it's not Pepsi really good, anything with them. It just, it looks like Pepsi Cola because it's got the, so it's called that, right? So there's, they'll have like a limited edition, the Tiffany, they had a Tiffany's, a Daytona that came out that was like 75,000.

So all these different watches that are limited editions, like you can sometimes get. So it's literally just an online store for used high, high ticket watches. Yeah. Wow, and it's worth a billion dollars. 1.1 billion. And they're going IPO.

Mm-hmm. Wow. That's interesting. That's fascinating. That's fascinating. That's fascinating. That's just a cool business. It's something that I watched like,

I watched these watches all the time. Like I follow a lot of different pages. Watch your pages. So I follow a lot of different pages. Watch pages. So I was familiar with the company, but I didn't know that it was going public and man, the amount of money that it's already, I mean, it was just what, few years back that it was only worth 200 million.

It's so interesting because obviously watches the function of a watch is to tell you the time, but nobody wears a watch really for that anymore. Do they? You have clocks everywhere. You have your phone, your cell phone. It's good. It's purely a fashion accessory. I mean, it has been since day one, but the fact that there's, you know, nobody really needs to. The only jewelry for men that I would even consider.

Yeah, yeah, besides a pinky ring. Well, yeah, that would be the only belt button ring. We won't talk about that. Yeah, that's the figure. Or pinky ring. Well, yeah, that would be the only thing that we don't talk about that. Yeah, the speaker, or your tagging or your tongue ring that you have. Yeah. Speaking of money, Jay Z, did he just enter into a new cat?

I heard a first rapper to hit a billion dollars, man. Now, he has where he makes his money is, there's a lot of different places he makes this money. It's not just his music, obviously. I mean, I read somewhere his real estate investments are- It's yeah, I hit $100 million. His business itself isn't worth,

I mean, it's nowhere near the top of his other things. So he's got alcohol investment, tech, famous artwork, which I think is really fascinating right now, real estate, and then his own personal brand. That's what makes up the billion dollars. Yeah, so what was that company that he owns that's like a streaming service for music? Oh, he's trying to go heads up with Spotify and I don't know the name. It's like title. It's title. Thank you, Doug. It's like high fidelity or high definition. Yeah,

music. So like you get more like jazz musicians and like different like like so you could really hear the crispness of the of the sound it's for it's for real like audio geeks. Is he the most I don't know the right word would be valuable person in hip hop or is Dr. Dre? No, no, he's past. He's number one. He said no rapper has ever reached a billion dollars. Right. Oh, wow. Dre was on the, he was close. Well, Dre was, when he sold beats.

That's what I was thinking. He put him on pace to be the first one to do it, but Jay-Z's been on the climb for a while now. And he's passed him on. And he's still with Beyonce. That's a power couple right there. I mean, the amount of power that they have in mind. I would imagine that helps too, because she's supposed to be a bad...

I remember when we were talking about Mark Maestroff, when he said he was having dinner with them, right? He was talking about how bad Ashi is, too. Wow. Yeah. Wow, that's insane. It's cool to see people take something and spin it into something else. You know what I'm saying?

Like, Jay-Z had some music that did very well, but that wasn't even close to his potential. Like the music was- It kept reinvesting. Yeah, that was the beginning of it. Everything else was what took off. Well, we went through this, like, I don't know, would you say 80s, 90s, maybe even,

I think 2000 I feel like was when we, when this started to change where like musicians, athletes, you know, we're just we're notorious for getting filthy rich, doing tons of drugs, buying tons of cars, going bankrupt, going bankrupt and losing all their money. And I think that enough people have heard that now and know the person's like it's crazy. What the, I forgot, I remember on the podcast a years ago, I read the stat on NFL players that end up going bankrupt or what are with that?

It's ridiculously high. Yeah, it's alarming. Yeah, it's like 75, 80%. Like that's crazy. Like a majority of them end up going bankrupt, which such as shows you like how bad that was. Well, now I think they're all savvy to that. So, and I know like the NFL does like courses now

for the first like week or month that they get into the NFL or they kind of talk to them about being smart about investments and don't just go throw your first million dollars at your best friend who wants to start a restaurant and all that. So, and they kind of try and help them out. It happens a lot with athletes and artists because they're...

It's quick money. Yeah, it's fast money. You could go from being on the street not making very much, or not having very much money. And there's all sudden fucking a million. Exactly, and all of their time and energy has gone into developing a particular skill. And once the public has lost,

it's interesting that skill, or that skill long has value, like if you're an athlete, you have a shelf life, especially if you play football. It's not only that so I was having this conversation so I have a good buddy who crazy story but one six point five million dollars and really is never made that much I've never had very much money at all our whole lives and we're talking about some of the habits that he has right now. Like as soon as he got it, like it took like 20 something of us in a stretched limo up to a suite.

And it was just crazy. It was like a $40,000 night, like right away. And I was telling, he's like, he's like, dude, is he, do you think he's gonna blow all his money? I said, I sure hope not. He's a good friend of ours. And, you know, and I know, and he's invested, some of,

I think he invested two million right away. I said, but that doesn't mean that he won't continue down that path. And I said, in fact, what you see is when, and you talk about this a lot with health and fitness journey, how important the journey is. There's something to about reaching new milestones financially that teaches you new lessons,

which is we see this all the time, right? How many people do you know that the wealthier they are, the tighter they are with their money, right? And a lot of that's because they've learned. They've learned practices over years of like, shit, it's not easy to make millions of dollars. So they know the real value of it. Right. And they know how hard it is to get to that point. And so they do have a different value system with it. It's not just that. It's the behaviors that are needed to earn that money, or behaviors that are similar to the ones you need to keep that money, oftentimes. And if you never learn those behaviors,

if you're just some kid who's places all their time in energy and playing a sport, your behaviors around being good at your sport, you've never learned the behaviors around earning money, investing money, how to save it, where to spend it. And so then all of a sudden, you're getting paid tons of money

because of your talent and your hard work for your sport, but you have zero understanding of how to manage money or what to do with it. And that can be a recipe for disaster. You see this, actually you see this this even in business sometimes when people fall into, sometimes the market has malinvestment where, for example, the housing crisis, before that happened, you had some policies that made it a very dare I say easy place to make money.

Like if you had some sales skills and you, you know, were somewhat responsible, you could get into home financing and you get in the right area, like the Bay Area. And I knew schmucks that were making, you know, deep six figures, half a million dollars a year just cause they fell on the right time. I have a buddy who was making three quarters of a million dollars a year, just because they fell on the right time. I have a buddy who was making three quarters

of a million dollars and then the housing market crash, he went from making 750 grand a year to making less than 70 grand a year, all within one year. And it devastated him because he never, the money that it did make, he was blowing it on everything. So he's left with nothing.

It was a terrible situation. Well speaking of crazy money, did you guys see the Warren Buffett lunch? What? It was a, he auctioned every, I think he does this every year. He auctions off at, which I believe the money goes to a charity.

I believe is what happens with it. He offered, he auctions off a lunch with him. And so it went for $4.5 million. Wow. To sit. Wait, we have lunch with them. Each ticket? No, one4.5 million. Wow. To sit and just have lunch with them. Each ticket? No, one tickets.

One ticket. One ticket, four million. Yeah, to have. Was this a CEO of another company? Or who was this? Justin Sun. Justin Sun, who's the owner of the 11th largest Bitcoin Tron. Oh.

And that's what's kind of cool about this launch and why I find it interesting is because Warren Buffett is openly come out and talked against Bitcoin since the beginning. Yeah, in fact Part of why I think half the people are still like on the I don't think it's gonna happen is because of Warren Buffett Warren Buffett has such an influence on on the market and when someone like that comes out and says nah Bitcoin ain't gonna happen now And so he's been anti-bitcoin. So this guy Justin Sun is now having a lunch with him who is creator of the Tron Bitcoin,

which is the 11th largest one. So it'll be a very interesting lunch to hear what happens after. So this crypto pioneer paid $4.5 million? Yes, to have. Wow. So this auction just happened, the lunch itself hasn't happened yet.

Lunch hasn't happened yet. The auction just happened. He won it. Yeah, that'll be an interesting conversation for sure. Yeah, what's crazy about your right Adam, about people with that much influence, Warren Buffett can do a single tweet and cause. Yeah, the market to move.

Cause it to move. Yeah. You know, just one like one thing like, um, you know, you know, I one like one thing like um, you know You know, I don't like Tesla's an interesting company. Not sure if I'd invest in them You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know these guys fuck with each other all the time All right, like these big investors We'll try to put one of the Kardashians like said something like oh, this is lame, you know like some tech thing

Oh, I dropped like was a snapchat or something like that. Snapchat. Yeah, like crashed her stock. She talked shit about him and she said snapchat's dead and then clicked on her. And they died. Yeah. Oh my God. How dare they have this much power.

Oh yeah, speaking of power, I was in the back there because you guys know my boys working right now. I was in the back there and I was like, you know, I hate you want to snack, buddy. And he's like, sure. I'm like, you know what he would probably like? The peanut butter chocolate skinny dipped almonds. Oh, no. And guess what I didn't find Adam.

We had like 10 bags. That's not me, bro. Yeah, who didn't have 10 bags? There was a lot of bags. Justin. 10? I'm just saying. 10 guy?

Listen, okay. I had to make sure that I stocked up because every time I go in there, like all that's left is the raspberry ones. Who, I mean, I know Sal loves them. I don't, I need the peanut butter chocolate. That's my fate. We're all, like, we're all such sharing giving people,

but when it comes to the bucket, I've learned what I have to do now. This is like survival mode. We come up with a scarcity for that. This guy, peanut butter and cheese, man. Yeah. That's what I'm gonna make you a peanut butter and cheese cake. I'm just gonna just keep adding to it.

Peanut butter and cheese cake coming your way. No, I literally, I open the back and I'm looking, there's other bags of other flavors, mostly raspberry, things, Justin. Yeah. And I'm looking and I'm like, Where's a peanut, what the fuck, man? Yeah.

And then I'm like, Oh, no, I took him all home. Cause my kids love him too. And it's one of those things where, Where's a peanut? What the fuck, man? Yeah. And then I'm like, oh. No, I took them all home. Because my kids love them too. And it's one of those things where... It's a picture of your kids. Come on, man. I have to use my kid. I eat a lot of them. I'm not gonna lie.

No, you're not gonna give it up to your kids. I'm not lying. They eat, well, they find them and I get pissed. But yeah, they still get home. See, it's up. So whatever that means, but I bring them home because it's like, there's no treats in my house. That's like as close as we get so

I like I enjoy those every day. We feel bad. Yeah, I got kids too Kids I feed them, but they're not getting any no gosh dammit. No, they got a fight for them. Just like I fight for them here Speaking of fighting there was this article that was shared yesterday that got my got me a little hyped up. And it's about the title of the article is considering the male dispossibility hypothesis. Anyway, it sucks about, yeah, I don't know, I can't say it right now. It talks about how men are, you know, we throw them out in the battle, more of them are murdered, if a man and a woman perform the same crime, men are typically punished much more harshly,

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's funny, underneath this article, it's supposed to be on Facebook, I haven't done this in a long time, but what I used to do back in the day is I would comment under an article and see if I could get into a discussion with someone and that's oftentimes how I learn. And so I get on there and I comment and I said, well, I said a lot of the behaviors that

we have towards each other come from evolution. I said, evolutionarily speaking, men are far more disposable than women. And boy, did I get a bunch of pissed off dudes? I'm not sure. And I'm like, it's true, dude. I said, listen, I said, the reason why we say things like, you know, women and children first, when it's like a ship sinking, right?

Women. You think it's all about dudes trying to act tough, which it's, sure, there's that piece also, but it comes from evolutionarily speaking, if you have a society and you lose 90% of the men, let's say there's a war and 90% of the men die. Well, one man can impregnate 100. That's what I'm saying, stud-boy.

You society will survive, it's not gonna be a problem. You eliminate, I don't know what the number is, but it's something like 50% of the women or something like that, you're screwed, you're done. Yeah. Because women obviously can only have one birth every nine months or every 10 months or whatever after she recovered. And so men just, we have always been more disposable, which is probably why we treat, you know,

why these behaviors have happened throughout all these societies where we say that. Women and children first, protect the women, protect the children. Guys go out there and donate your body or whatever. And it was an interesting debate and discussion, but you had a bunch of guys who were like, yeah, men are more homeless and we have all these more problems. I'm like, yeah, I get that. But nature evolved that way. It takes more risks with men.

And it's true, if you look at all the risks that evolution takes on men, we tend to suffer more from higher rates of things like mental illness and stuff like that. And it's because nature can roll the dice more. They've got to be safer with the women. I've never heard of the, you know, I've never thought of the statistic for men being,

there's way more homeless men than there are women. Far more. And I've never heard of the, you know, I've never thought of the statistic for men being, there's way more homeless men than there are women. Far more. And I, without even seeing the stat, now that I'm like, we're calling, man, it's rare that I actually see a homeless woman, you see homeless men all the time. Why is that? And they've done, because instinctually, I think,

and in societally speaking, we view men as being, well, we view men as being tougher, they can handle more probably, we think, right, oh, they can handle more probably, we think, right? Oh, they can handle more of the elements. But I think also, evolutionarily speaking, there's that instinct in us that's like, we need to, like if the women die, we're all done. Like, we're gonna end.

Men can, they can die. So we tend to, like women tend to get more money when they're homeless or more food and children of course. Do we count this in the gender pay gap? No, that's bullsh**. Yeah. Oh wow. Damn.

I'm not, you know, and I'm not making the case for like one against the other, but this is just the truth, you know, evolutionarily speaking, this is why our attitudes towards men in some of those cases are that way. It's is why men went off to battle. Sure, you know, the physical strength aspect, but you know, nowadays, it's less and less of an importance because of modern technology. But again, you don't want your, you don't want your women go off and

and die because then you can't procreate enough to sustain. Yeah, it's just funny that we have to like dance around, you know, subject matter like that where it's like, you know, we can't state like what we see anymore, you know, like it's too politicized. And so this was a man's group that was like supportive men's rights. It was just, yeah, and it was just,

you know what's happening right now is, and I know why there's always pissed off guys, is that the other side has gone so extreme. Yeah. And you have this small minority that's very vocal, that's blaming men for everything. And all it's doing is it's awakening, it's opposing extreme side.

So now you've got all these dudes who are like, men, we're the oppressed ones and men, we need to be man and all that shit's like, all right, come down. Yeah, the only thing I see in again, yeah, and I kind of, yeah, I dismiss a lot of like the whining, complaining stuff I read and see from that camp, but the one thing I do, you know, pay attention to,

like some of the laws, you know, in terms of like having rights to your kids and things like that, where, you know, a lot of these guys get screwed in total divorce, and so like my sister-in-law is a attorney for a divorce attorney. And so she's always like trying to get men and clients and help them out with this.

Cause it is very tough. You know, it's very much more leaning towards women's. Stereotypes exist for both sides. Some of it is based in some truth, but when you look at the individual, it always breaks down. But what is the general truth, right? Men are more likely to abandon their children,

voluntarily. They just are. So if you look at a single parent, the odds that a single parent who has full custody, the odds that they're a woman are far higher than if they're a man. The odds that if that men are gonna be violent are higher than women,

that men are gonna be more abusive towards children are higher than women. And so I think we understand some of those generalities that are based in some truth, but then we apply it to the individual. So then you look at the divorce and you look at the sky who's a good man, good father, whatever, but he's less likely to get the same

You know, the get the same judgment as the woman He's less likely to be have the visitation rights or have the custody and if they have an argument It's a it's his word against hers right often times the judge will listen To the woman and the guys kind of screwed so but anyway, it was just an interesting speaking of kind of along this subject a little bit. There was this crazy article that someone shared me about, so there was this young man who got in a, I think it was a motorcycle accident if I'm not mistaken, and his parents had really wanted him to have a child at one point, but the kid, the guy was dying. So they got approval to extract sperm from their dying son and they're using it.

Dying or dead? You was dying and now he's probably dead. And now they're using it to make themselves a grandson. It's kind of weird. A little bit right? It's like, yeah, that's creepy. That's a little weird. Isn't that a little bit weird? What's the story yeah, that's creepy. That's a little weird. Isn't that a little bit weird?

What's the story sound like when grandpa sits down with his kid? I don't, I don't, I know, that's weird, huh? How did my dad and what? And did he have a girlfriend or somebody in mind like? Yeah, it's him. It's him or is this like a, they put it to a, send it to a bank. I don't know, I don't know exactly,

but it says here, so the first they got the sperm from them as he was dying, then he died, and then they had to ask the court for permission to use their late son's sperm to produce a child, and they picked a male sperm because they wanted a male ear, air, or whatever. How weird, right? Yeah, that's just a mind's blood. I mean, that's modern.

I don't know how to respond to that. Yeah, modern science, you know, but just a normal, new things that you wouldn't even have thought of. Normal family, famous, anything about them? No, I mean, the kid was apparently, he was a West Point cadet. He was, oh, is a skiing accident, it's what happened.

He always dreamed of having children or this and that or whatever. No, other than that, there's nothing too crazy about it other than the fact that he was dying and they took a sperm and now got a court permission to make themselves a grand kid. Wow. How wild is that?

And so are they, I mean, I'm raising this kid. I believe so. I mean, I'm assuming that he, if he was dying and he wasn't dead yet He gave the approval and then then in that case. I don't see I wouldn't you probably want it to right? I mean if you were going special. Yeah Somebody like let's say me right who would before I mean obviously I have a kid on the way But if I didn't have a kid on the way and I had a skiing accident and I was about to go and Katrina's like, I wanna have your son,

I would say absolutely, take it from me. I don't think with no hesitation. So, I mean, but you have a partner and everything? Well, that's what I mean. I mean, he didn't have it, they just, are you sure? Yeah, I didn't say that they didn't say anything about that.

Fuck. Even then though, I guess if my parents came to me and on the, maybe the last male shaffer and we wanna carry the name on, and this is the beginning, man. Exactly. This is the beginning. Exactly.

Like, think about now to, yeah, loved ones that have are passing, you just get their DNA. Colonum. You colonum. I mean, that's not in the distant future anymore. I mean, that's not my guess. Not in the distant future anymore. I know. That's crazy.

What about hyper, you know, super narcissistic celebrity wealthy people, which a lot of them exist. Right. Wanting to have themselves have their own, yeah, have themselves as their child. Like, I'm going to clone myself in raceways because I'm awesome. I am awesome. Look at you little Justin. Can you imagine?

You imagine. Seriously. Listen, I'm going to tell you something. Look at you, little Justin. Look at you. Can you imagine? You imagine? Seriously, listen, I'm going to tell you something. This is the truth now. Justin, I know you understand this. Yes. Part of the, there's this interesting narcissism that happens when you have your own kids.

Like, parents love to hear about how much their kids are like them. Even if it's a shitty thing, you're like, oh, your son likes, he pees on the floor like you do on accident. That's my boy, you know, the part of, the last thing you wanna hear is that your kid looks like you're significant other or like somebody else in your family. Or nothing like you. Or nothing like you. Yeah, well, like your in-laws are totally different than me.

The milkman. Yeah, or like your in-laws or something like that. He's got your father-in-laws. Yeah, exactly, yeah, it's, even if he's a cool guy. That's my boy. Yeah, so I mean, think about that, right? You have your kid, like Adam, you're gonna have your boy, but like, oh my god, he's just like, I have, look at this. That's my boy. Yeah. So, I mean, think about that, right? You have your kid, like Adam, you're gonna have your boy,

but like, oh my God, he's just like, I have, look at this, it's so cool. Yeah. It's only like a, it's a small step. It's there, but it's a little. Yeah. But this is like full blow. People are gonna clone themselves.

It's a race themselves. It's totally gonna happen. It's totally gonna happen. How are we gonna stop this? What would you do if you raised yourself, like your actual self? It would be, well, we'll be trippy about it. Like, I'm gonna give you the best workout. It would be do if you raised yourself, like your actual self? Well, we'll be trippy about it. Like I'm gonna give you the best for it.

It would be the closest thing to making you feel like you're living on. Like I mean, if you were literally raising yourself, it's like, oh, I'm gonna, I'll be leaving this body and you got it from here, bro. But would they have the same personality? I have to, obviously, if you could. Well, I would think most of it,

because you're being raised by yourself. How about the nurture, right? Because you got the nature there, but the nurture changes, right? Because all the variables. Dude, how weird would it be? I mean, you would think it would be you on steroids in every aspect, meaning like you, maybe you would enhance every good attribute and you would hopefully suppress every bad

attribute. Well, think about it this way. Every time you mess with it, there's a reaction. Yeah, yeah, because, okay, think about this way. Like, you're an honest, hardworking, you know, successful person, right? Adam could be evil sheep. What if you had, what if you cloned yourself? So it's a clone of you, right?

But now he's being raised in a, you know, in a nice household intact. Right, right. You guys have money. You're a good, you know, good support to follow whatever. And he grows up and he's just a lazy sheep. You guys have money. That's the point. You're a good, you know, good support to father. And he grows up and he's just a lazy, shit lazy, like annoying.

He'd be like, fuck, I should have fucking put him through the shit. I'll put you back in the box. I'm creating you. Yeah, how weird would that be? No. Then you realize all your own challenges are part of the reason why you're successful.

Oh, fuck, I realize that now. I mean, that's what I think, hopefully, I think parents make this mistake all the time. I mean, I know I see, and I know my uncle deals with this, what you see him with his kids. And I know he had a really rough childhood and a lot of adversity. And then was very successful, but he had kids pretty young like in his mid to mid to late 20s. And so I don't think he had fully like he's definitely not as wise and mature as he is now in his 60s.

And I think he looking back, he realizes like fuck, I let my and I said this to you guys before. If I would have had a kid at 25, I would allowed my insecurities to go right into my son because I was still at that point of like wanting to prove that I'm successful and wanting to show it and be it that the next easiest thing to do. Oh, I have a two year old. Oh, yeah, he's rolling around in a fucking expensive bike.

He's got all these sneakers. Yeah. Like I would have just transferred all of that into him because it's really a reflection of myself. But now I'm older and wiser. And so sure that I'll have an urge to wanna do that, but then I'll stop and I'll catch myself. There's also a reserve.

Right. They need struggle. Right. There's nothing like kids to pull out your insecurities though. Oh, so it's so true. It's a constant battle. Yeah. Just like allowing the struggle or intervening.

Sometimes it'll happen and you're fully aware of that It's coming from a place of insecurity and you can't even stop it. Yeah, I'm saying that's I can imagine Yeah, that's this reminds me of do you guys remember that that it was like a documentary I think it was on Netflix of those triplets Mm-hmm those those dudes that got separated at birth right and they didn't know about each other They didn't know about each other and it turned out to about each other. And it turned out to be an experiment. What a crazy story. Yeah, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna spoil this for people

if they haven't watched it, but watch it anyway. It's awesome. They took three boys, and what they ended up discovering was that these three boys were separated at birth. They were at an orphanage. They were separated and put into different types of households to be studied. And they didn't even know.

They were triplets, right? Triplets, yeah. So like one was in a wealthy home, one was like middle class, one was low class. And so they were all over like, I think this was in the 80, early 80s. They were all over like the, and it wasn't Ellen back then,

but it was like all the top shows. Yeah, I feel like they thought I'd do it. And the first time that they all got together, they were already, it was so funny, finishing each other sentences. Like a lot of crazy similarities, but then there were also some crazy differences based off of the way that they were raised.

And I don't want to spoil it for people, but that documentary blew me away. So yeah, raising your own self. Now, what do you guys, what comes to mind for both of you guys when you think of your insecurities that you've allowed bleed into your kid, even though you know it.

Like you've made a statement like, Salah, you know it's an insecurity of yours, you struggle with it and yet you still do it with your kids. What's an example? Well, my current difficult insecurity that I'm still working through just has more to do around divorcing my kids mom and you know, am I being a good father? Am I, do they like being at my house? Do they like being with me? You know,

am I damaging them? Am I doing a good job? That's the mind fuck that I'm going through right now. And it's all based on my own insecurity, which, and I identify that it's an insecurity, but it's really fucking hard. So do you catch yourself being more lenient on something that you feel firm about because you don't wanna be the disciplinary or you don't wanna be the dad who's... Totally.

Totally. My household is much more regimen and strict. They have more responsibilities at my house. Part of the reason why I think we're, I push a little bit more in that direction is because I know the leniency that they have. Their mom's a great mom, by the way. It's just much more lenient there. And when you're, you know, it would be different

if we were both in the same house because they would be balanced, but we're not. So I think over there, they get far more, far less responsibility. She does more shit for them. When they come to my house, it's like you gotta do a lot of your own stuff. But then that always causes a little bit of a struggle, right?

The struggle being both for the kids, but also for me internally, because it's like, oh man, they're gonna come here and the hate it here, because then, I'm the one telling them, wash your dish, make your bed, make sure you do this, don't do that, and you get in trouble if you don't, and you're not allowed to be on electronics, nonstop as much as you want, because here I, make sure you do this, don't do that, and you get in trouble if you don't, and you're not allowed to be on electronics,

nonstop as much as you want, because here I wanna make sure that you're whatever. I feel like you're a parent though, and what I think is unique and really special about you, is you're not the type of parent, which I think is terrible to be this way, where you, because I told you so, you're the type of parent that when you do things like that,

and if they push back or they fight you, you sit down and you explain. You're the type of parent that when you do things like that and if they push back or they fight you, you sit down and you explain what you're teaching them, showing them, because, and even if they grumbly go do whatever it is they're doing, that conversation behind exactly. The purpose and the conversation of you explaining why you're setting these rules in place, why you're doing this, it may bother them right now, but 10, 15 years from now, when those things play a role in their success in life later on, whether that be in relationships or organization or business or whatever, they'll reflect and look back on that because you've instilled that.

So, for sure, the structure. Fuck yeah, sir. Yeah, otherwise there's no structure. Right now they might not. Yeah, well, that's the shitty thing about insecurities is that they defy logic. Like logically I can sit here and talk. And I understand what you're saying is right,

100% right. In fact, I agree with all of it. It's in the moment when it happens and what's funny is that, and here's the life cycle of a deep insecurity. And I went through this with body image issues, which I'm on, I'm way on the other end of now, it took me a long time, is before you even realize,

step one is you even realize you have an insecurity. Because what ends up happening is you just have feelings. You don't even put words on, you just feel a particular way. And sometimes because of your fear in facing your insecurities, you strengthen the opposing side. So like body image issues, for example, before I even could put words to the fact

that I was insecure about my skinny body or whatever, I was just, I had bad feelings about it and I would strengthen the other side. Oh, I'm just working out, I love fitness. Oh, I just like building muscle, that's just whatever. And without even identifying or putting words to the insecurities, so I'm at the point now where I've identified it, now I have to kind of work through it.

But for a little while there, it's like when my kids would come to my house and I knew they were coming to my house, I'd get anxious, I couldn't figure out what the fuck. And I didn't even put words, I just knew I felt anxious. I don't know what it was. Now I know like, oh, I'm anxious, why am I anxious? Oh, because I feel like they're not gonna have a good time

and I feel like they don't wanna be here. I'm gonna have to tell them to do all the stuff. But when you're in the moment, dude, it's... Now, Justin, you don't have a situation like that with a divorce, but... Yeah, no, but I definitely can identify with that struggle because I have that same insecurity to wear. I feel like I'm always the authoritarian.

I'm always the one that's restricting fun time. You know, the one that's not taking them out to ice cream. I'm not the one that's constantly thinking of the fun, you know, eventful things to do on the weekend. I'm thinking about the chores and I'm thinking about structure and I'm thinking about how to provide the struggle. You know, and that's like, I get too fixated on that. And I realize that, and I have to pull myself

back out of that because it is definitely, I don't, that's part of it. But really, I think the main insecurity for me that I deal with my oldest because he's like, he's a very sweet loving kid that is very thoughtful and does all these things for people. And I love that about him,

but I'm always trying to toughen him up. You know, because for me, I just want to look out for him. I want him to make sure that he is resilient to people that will take advantage of that. Or he doesn't have like a good defense, like system, you know, about him. Like I'm always like thinking about that

because I felt those things as a kid too. Like I had to go through a lot of shitty experiences to realize I had to be a little tougher, you know? And like I just see that potentially happening where, you know, some kid is just gonna punk them really hard, you know hard for doing something nice. But at the same time, I want to foster it.

I love it. I love that he's that, consider it and loving to people. Now because you feel like you're the authoritarian all the time and which makes me feel like the Courtney is the ice cream giver and the play and the easy going. Does that cause conflict between the two of you? Like, are you, like, does it bother you to where you're kind of getting on to her? Like, man, fuck, I need you to drop the hammer

every once in a while, I can't always be the dick. Yeah, sometimes, but for the most time, I'm trying to help kind of coach her up to gain more. Cause the thing is, it's like, it's a power struggle of paying attention and listening. And a lot of times, like, I'll get them to listen real quickly, then she gets frustrated. Like, how do you get them to do that?

And it's just that I say something. I'm scary. And then I do the exact, because that's part of it too. I got tricks. But, you know, like that's, it's just, it's a balance between the two of us. Like it's a good balance.

She does, she does have times where she'll, you know, muster up the little bit of the scare, the little bit of just the real firm tone of voice and like trying, but she hates doing it, you know. And so it's like, I'm always trying to just help coach her up. I'm curious to be that I have a feeling that this will be Katrina and I a challenge that Katrina and I will have. And I say that because I see it in the, I mean, because her and I have the two bulldogs, we got them together, right? So we've had them for seven, eight years now. It, it built in his eight, right right and Mazzie's six and that's how they act with with me and her

and she's so when they get sick or they don't feel good they'll cuddle up next to her and she's always petting and loving them and they they seek her out for love and comfort all the time but then if they're acting up or being a little shit's right that I mean she can be yelling and they won't they could be fighting and she can't get them to stop or anything like that and all I got to do is like stop my foot or raise my voice a little bit and they just that's some of the sacrifice right. You see that like she gets a lot more love like lot more hugs, lot more snuggles, you know, I'm like, all cold on the couch. Yeah, man. It's all good. Like there's whatever it's a balance. Yeah, exactly. It's one

of the hardest challenges is you want to protect your kids from everything, but that's not a good thing. You know what I'm saying? You don't want your kid to get picked on and have to deal with that, or you don't want your kid to fall down or get hurt, you don't want them to have this challenge. And so you find yourself trying to constantly prepare them and protect them, which is a lot of times not the right thing to do. The right thing to do is let it happen. And then when it happens, then you're there and you support them and whatever.

But man, it's a tough one, man, because you just wanna like, you wanna wrap them up and bubble tape or whatever, you wanna make sure that nobody fucks with them. And you know, don't go over here because the kids might pick on you and do this over here and it's like, okay, what the fuck? What do we, what do we, what's going on?

We're gonna learn how to take a punch. No, I was just, days get so. No, I was thinking about this, I was thinking about this a lot actually yesterday because I was talking to my son on the way home and I was telling him about when I used to work with my dad. And I remember, I think of it fondly,

but to be quite honest, when I was doing it and working probably, I did, yeah, come on, summertime, I'm gonna wake up at 5 a.m. And I'm gonna go out in the cold and shovel shit and fucking work. And if I don't work fast enough, then, you know, I'm gonna get yelled at or whatever. And there were definitely good times and stuff,

but I tell you what, that's where I learned a lot of my take care of myself type of responsibility. Because, I mean, I love both my parents to death, their phenomenal parents. My mom was phenomenal, but my mom did everything. I mean, that was like the classic stereotype of the Italian mama's boy, mom make my breakfast, she make my lunch,

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Yeah, I gotta think of this kind of, you know, and I do some work for him and I'd leave a mess and he'd be like, do you think I'm gonna clean your mess? And there were all these guys that work for him and they'd all look at me like, and you know, you feel automatically like, oh shit, I gotta like take care of myself. And I look back and it's like,

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An eagle has landed Quikwa Alright our first question is from capc 91 What's the biggest difference between prime and prime pro if I get prime pro? Do I have a need for prime? I I picked this question because and not for the shame was plugged so much, although I probably will come off that way. This is probably the most popular question that I get, and I think we've even talked off air before sometimes.

Like, did we make the mistake by naming them a similar thing, so people get confused on exactly what the difference is. Yeah, we actually had quite a debate when we even named the program, Prime Pro, because we created Prime First, Prime Pro Second, and there was a large debate as to whether or not we should even name it Prime Pro because we thought it would get confused with Prime. They are totally different programs in the sense that, so here's a deal. With Maps Prime, the idea was to help people design and individualize for themselves what

their pre-workout priming session should look like. Now for people who aren't familiar with the term terminology that I'm using right now, a priming session is for lack of a better term, your warm up. Well, and I think it's important to share right here that this comes from our experience of what it looked like the first day of assessing somebody. I mean, when somebody first walks in, I've never met you before and I'm about to design a program for you. The first thing that I want to do is assess your movement and I want to see what you've got going on. So I can then program specific movements to address your imbalances because we all got them.

Everybody's got imbalances, it's just a fact. It's just a matter of how bad they are, how detrimental they can be to your lifting routine. And so we've broken up this in three zones, three zones that we find extremely important to test. And then from there, it points you in the direction of what movements you should do to start your workout. Yeah. Now, some of you may be thinking like, what's so important about your warm-up or priming?

Well, okay. So back in the day, a warm up, the goal of the warm up was just to prevent you from hurting yourself, which is not a bad goal. That's actually a pretty good goal. The problem is you shouldn't just stop there. Yes, you can do a warm up to help prevent injury, but if you wanna take it to the next level,

your warm up can actually make your workout more effective. And what I mean by that is, you know, think about it the last time you did squats and how many sets it took you before you felt like you were in the groove of doing your squat where you were like, yes, I feel like I'm connected. Everything's moving right. I can push up the weight. I can exert maximal force and really reap the benefits of this phenomenal exercise.

Well, with priming, if you do it properly, it'll set you up right away. Right away you'll get into your exercise and you'll feel and connected like you're moving properly. And it's not just getting the body to move and warm up. It's actually quite individual. So to give you a good example, a very simple example, if you're somebody that has really bad forward shoulder and forward shoulder is literally how it sounds, somebody whose shoulders roll forward, which almost everybody has.

A lot of people have this and to varying degrees, some people are worse than others because we work on our computers and our phones and we don't really do lots of exercises or movements behind us. So our shoulders tend to roll forward. And what ends up happening is muscles kind of form themselves into your most common positions. So with forward shoulder, you tend to get

tightness across the chest. The muscles of the mid back are lengthened, they tend to be weakened. And your body learns how to move best in this position, this sub-optimal position. So let's say you have forward shoulder and you're going to go do bench press. Well, when you're doing a proper bench press, the best form you can do is with a high chest, shoulders pinched back and down. So you have this kind of retracted scapular position. Elbows are not totally tucked,

but slightly tucked, bring the bar down, press it up. That just places your shoulder in the best position to minimize injury, but it also maximizes activation of the muscles that you're using to press the weight up and it's the best leverage that will allow you to lift the most weight.

So across the board, that's the form that's gonna give you the best results from the bench press. But if you have forward shoulder, which is the opposite of that, right, forward shoulder shoulders, world forward, you wanna be able to prime your body so that when you get under the bench press, that position is very natural and feels very good.

But if you always have forward shoulder, it may take you four, five, six sets or never to get in that position. Now as personal trainers, after working with people for years, we started to learn warm-up hacks. Before, prime even existed, I started to realize, if I have this person do an

movement that's going to retract and depress their scapula. If I do a cable row with really good form and squeeze back there, if I do some mobility work in the shoulders, if I get good core activation by doing some priming movements, then we get in the bench press, boom, form is good and we're reaping the maximum benefits from this exercise. So that's what priming is, and that's what my master primed us. And how do you know if you're that person, how do you know if you're somebody who has forward shoulders or what exercise you should do? That's the purpose of the compass tests.

Right. Yes, because it allows you to test your own body, identify what your movement patterns look like, and then you design your own priming session for your own body, identify what your movement patterns look like, and then you design your own priming session for your own body. Yeah, so I think in terms of the difference of the two, I look at prime as mainly being like a pre-post workout protocol to optimize all your workouts, the most effective way possible, individually based off of what it spit out from your tests that you've either passed or failed.

And so we have basically a protocol of, if you didn't pass this zone, then here's some group of exercises to work on that will help to enhance that process further. So you can squat your best, you can deadlift your best, you can bench press your best, and it's gonna put you in a good position to where like now you're gonna benefit even more

out of your workouts. And then if you get into, so it's more like of a surface sort of, we're really like trying to look for more of a bird's eye view of your movement quality and how to apply better movement patterns to where Prime Pro, we're taking a more below the surface, a deeper look at the quality of your movement, how to help enhance it

so you don't have pain anymore. Well, yeah, we looked at, I mean, with Prime Pro, we dove into every single major joint in your body, and we addressed that. And Prime Pro is correctional. That's correctional exercise. Exactly. This is more gear.

This is like, I think every trainer, first of all, should own them both, but if you're a client that has a lot of aches and pains and dysfunction in your joints, so you have a lot of achy joints, like Prime pro is where I recommend to all these people. It's like you need to go and look at the joint nearest to all the achiness that you have going on and address it by doing these correctional exercises. And so it takes you through every major joint in the body and then it has coaching tips on how to do these movements properly to make them effective and like correctional work. Yeah. to make them effective and like correctional work. Yeah, so like, let's say you're somebody who has

hip pain from squatting and you do good priming and you squat and it feels better but it's still, it's still an issue. My hip still bothers me. You're going to need deeper correctional exercise. That's where Prime Pro comes into play. And with correctional exercise, pure correctional exercise, you're not working out a whole lot.

You're doing correctional exercise. What I mean by that is you're not doing your regular workout. If you're somebody that's got a chronic shoulder problem and you're just like it always kind of bothers me, you're probably going to want to stop doing exercises, your traditional workout for your shoulders and maybe even for your chest, just do correction exercise for that area for your shoulder and your shoulder blade, like the ones you find in Prime Pro. Do that for like a couple of weeks, then go back to your regular workout, Prime Properly,

and see how you move. And so that's really the breakdown. Adam's 100% right. Prime Pro is, if you're a personal trainer, that is the program that you get. And why? Because I mean, when we looked back and that was another thing that we saw with the problem that we saw with a lot of the digital programs that were out there, when we talked about, you know, what did you have to, when you program for a client, what did you guys have to do? Probably 60% of the time. Like rarely ever did I have a very standard program

where they got to weight train all the way. Like half of the workout was correctional stuff because my client, my average client was 45 to 50 and had had excess body fat on them for quite some time and had surgery somewhere. And so they, most my clients that came to me sure, they wanted to lose 30 pounds of body fat, but even more importantly, they wanted to feel better and they had aches and pains. So there was many times where I wasn't barbell squatting like I would like to because I was

doing so much correctional work. And when I think of my clients, it was more common than not that I was doing correctional work with people. So, the irony is, as a personal trainer, the value that you're gonna bring a client, boy, nothing brings more value than being able to, use correctional exercise in a way to get them to move better and to get rid of pain.

If you do that, I'll tell you solutions. Yeah, you get a client to lose 30 pounds, great job, congratulations, they're probably real happy. You get a client who has chronic back pain to not have pain anymore. You are God, you are a miracle worker. You, chronic pain reminds you every single day it makes life unbearable.

And if you're a trainer and you understand correctional exercise, you apply it properly. Wow, you have, you've got a client for life. This is how I built all my value was right here, 100%. The weight loss and all that stuff was easy afterwards. This was all the hard stuff and that's, no, these clients are gold. They stay with you forever.

Absolutely, because you solved a problem, but they've probably been dealing with for five to 10 years, that they've seen their doctor, they've taken ibuprofener. I used to have clients, I mean, how many times have you guys had this, where a client, you talked to them about their pain, they're like, yeah, I take four ibuprofen every day

and my back feels okay if I do that every day. Every day they take it. Then you do some correctional exercise, they no longer have to take medication, like that's seriously life changing. But as far as primates concern, this is a good conversation. Besides the programs, I really want to make this point, what you do to warm your body up,

that first 10 minutes to 15 minutes, depending on how much you need to warm up before your workout, can make or break your workout. It's that big of a deal. It will make that big of an impact. Especially as you get older. Especially. I mean, it's like it multiplies by a hundred every five years you got to your life.

And it's not just that, especially as you get stronger. So even if you're young, that's a good point too. You know, even if you're young and you're like, I don't need, you know, I don't have any aches and pains, but I'm, you know, benching 350 pounds and I'm squatting four and a pounds, makes a big difference.

Oh yeah. Like you prime properly, you can add how do you keep your shoulder healthy with all this new excessive weight that now you're being able to get up? When I first learned how to prime properly, I added five pounds on average to most of my PRs. Just because I prime properly and I was able to activate

my CNS better and generate more force whatever through the floor and a deadlift or whatever. So it makes that big of a difference. The problem is priming is very, very individual. So look at your own self. If you don't wanna invest in one of our programs, look at your own self. You know where your issues self. If you don't want to invest in one of our programs, look at your own self. You know where your issues are. Prime your body so that those issues are no longer issues

when you do your heavy lifts. So if you have your excess curve and you're low back, you have an anterior pelvic tilt, try to do exercises that strengthen the opposing. If you have, if your knees cave in or bow out too much, or you have hip issues, work on some hip activation type movements. If you have issues where your heels wanna come off the floor, work on ankle mobility, priming type movements, look at your own individual body and individualize your warm up and it will make a tremendous difference

in not only how the workout feels, but in your progress long term. Next question is from Jacob J.T. Calvert. How do you get through the times when you can't access a lot of clean calories due to bad planning or just unexpected life events? You know, this has changed for me a lot. And then a lot of that is,

and I know we've shared on the show are like insecurities and one of my major ones being the skinny kid trying to build muscle is I was scared shitless if I was in the middle of like hardcore training and dieting and trying to build muscle and all of a sudden I had a you know three five day hiatus where I was either on vacation or traveling or would not have access to my protein shake and my YouTube peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and my can of tuna.

Like if I didn't have access to this, holy fuck, all that work I just did for the last month or two was gonna fall right off. And I absolutely felt like that because I would, I feel like I would deflate, the scale would drop a few pounds. And so I would never do what I do today, which is funny because today I now obviously understand and realize that, dude, I'm not gonna lose any muscle.

In fact, it'll probably end up benefiting me if I just fast or go without some food, skip a few meals. There's nothing that's gonna, and you don't have to completely fast, but there's days where I'll go two, three days in a row, where I'll have 900 calories. Now, I would never recommend this to somebody who has an eating disorder or is already starving their body, but somebody who stays well fed, well trained,

on a regular basis, and then all of a sudden, I don't have access to the ideal foods for me. That's where I'll just eat way less calories. Yeah. I was so similar, you and I are very similar in that respect. I ruined a lot of vacations for myself and people around me because, like, you know, on vacations, sometimes you're out

and you're looking at stuff and you're doing things and you ate breakfast at eight and it's already 12.30, it's one o'clock, I'm with a group of people and I'm like, I gotta fucking eat, man, I'm with a group of people and I'm like, I gotta fucking eat, man, I'm losing muscle as we speak. You know, right. And I would piss people off because I'd have to stop somewhere and get food

or I'd have to bring a bar or powder with me and I'd have to find a water bottle and funnel it all in there and shake it up and drink my shake. Because I was so scared to go off my routine. You know, now I'm like Adam, I I realize it's not that big of a deal. I mean, if you're good most of the time, here's a deal, here's a thing when it comes to food.

Food provides us with a lot of different things. One of the obvious ones is the physiological benefits that healthy food will bring you. The proteins, the fats, the carbs, the nutrients, the fibers, all those things are will bring you. The proteins, the fats, the carbs, the nutrients, the fibers, all those things are gonna bring you these physiological benefits. But food isn't, you can't just relegate food to that. Obviously, obviously, look around.

There's food culture. Part of the stuff that food brings you, and of course this can become pathological as well. So I'm not talking about the pathology, but part of the benefits and wonderful things that food brings you has nothing to do with the physiological effects, has nothing to do with the proteins, fats, carbs, and calories, has everything to do with enjoying the environment, enjoying the hedonistic value of the food, who I love the taste of this, enjoying the people around you. So often times when you're in those times, like you're saying here,

well, you can't get access to a lot of clean calories, quote unquote, that's probably when you should enjoy food for those other things, like it's probably when you're on a vacation. It's probably when you're out with friends you haven't seen in a while. It's probably when you're not in your normal routine. You know what I'm saying?

That's, look, you're traveling and you're visiting Italy or France or Spain or Mexico. That's when it's time to enjoy the food for the culture, for the flavor, for the people around you. That's not the time for you to get on your strict regiment of gotta get my grams of proteins and my fats and my carbs and my calories. Because you're missing out on those other awesome things. Now, I'm talking to somebody who's obviously the way the question was asked is this person's a fitness fanatic.

Now the average person, they enjoy food for everything, but it's actual physiological value in terms of proteins, fats, carbs, and calories. They do that all the time. That is the regular routine. The regular routine is eating food for the taste all the time. To that person, this conversation would be totally different.

But if you're this fitness fanatic that's on this super good regimen, and then you're on vacation, you're like, oh my God, I can't eat clean. Relax, you're gone for a week. Enjoy it for what you're supposed to enjoy for. I normally, so I'll either enjoy it and eat in a surplus or I'll restrict

and just not allow myself to over-endulge based off of how I went into that trip. So let's say we're going into a three or a four day trip. Let's say we're going into Manhattan which we're going down to in two days. And if I have a good day, I had a good day yesterday, if I have another good day today, and tomorrow eating wise, training wise, and then I go to, I'll probably allow myself a surplus. I know I've been dialed in. I've actually been training really well. So I'm sending the signal from my body to

adapt and build muscle. So if I over consume and have a little extra calories, hopefully a good portion of that gets partitioned over into building muscle. And in addition to that, I'm enjoying the trip while we're down there, and I'm getting to indulge in the other values of food like you're saying, Sal.

Now flip that. I'm having a bad week. I've been inconsistent. I haven't gotten the gym for five or six days in a row. I've been all over the board and map with my my nutrients. When I go into that week, this is where I would probably restrict and and and hold back on the calories. So at all, and that's the neat part is you you have complete control of this. What I don't do anymore, though, is I don't get hung up on a couple days of either restricting calories or eating in a calorie surplus because it's not three to five days is not is what making

the difference between you being the cover model or not. It's like consistency and and training and dieting over months and years is what really will separate that and these little two to three day hiatus is not a big deal. What it was kills people is when you've been eating like shit, not training consistently, then you go on vacation and you ramp it up. And then you ramp it up to a whole nother level. Like, oh yeah, that's gonna fuck you for sure.

Yeah, the only people that really should really care and be strict about eating clean when they're in different environments, vacation, competitors, you know. If you're going on stage, you have an excuse. Otherwise, you're just being a dick. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, stop it.

And you can be, and you're being a dick to yourself. And the way I look at it too is this, if I'm, and I've done this oftentimes, I'll be in another country and we'll be walking around. Let's say we're in Italy and we're, or maybe that's not a good example because they usually have good food everywhere, but let's say I'm in some other place,

we're walking around, we're looking at things, and I know we're gonna have a nice dinner. I know the dinner's gonna be, it's gonna have this amazing cultural experience. I'm gonna eat these different foods, maybe someone prepared it for us, but for now, we're out and about, we're looking at stuff,

and then there's this little convenience store. And everybody's like, yeah, let's just grab a quick sandwich of the convenience store. We don't need to stop for lunch because we're walking around and we'll have a nice dinner tonight. I'll skip it. It's not worth it to me. you know, convenience store. And everybody's like, yeah, let's just grab a quick sandwich to the convenience store. We don't need to stop for lunch because we're walking around and we'll have a nice dinner tonight. I'll skip it.

It's not worth it to me. Like, okay, I get a sandwich in America and it's not that big of a deal. So I'll be purely, I mean, I'll be totally aware of what I'm enjoying from the food. And so for me, it's like, some people will do that with fast food. Fast food to me doesn't really, I don't get that enjoyment from it.

For me, at least, if I'm going to do it, if I'm going to enjoy food for its hedonistic value, I'm going to do it with food that I really hold in high esteem because now I'm really enjoying it. And McDonald's doesn't do that for me, for example. Next question is from drops of jewels. As a former gymnast, I values flexibility. I'm only a few months into weight

training and want to make sure my stretching doesn't impede muscle growth. One is the best time to deep stretch before working out, after working out, or on rest days. So flexibility does not impede muscle growth. However, stretching deep static stretching pre lifting can dampen the Cns signal to the muscles when you're training them so it actually temporarily weakens muscles So if you'd like stretch your quads really really deep and hard and then you go do a max strength test on your quads There'll be a little bit weaker than if you didn't do the the deep stretch You actually lose a little bit stability So you you didn't do the deep stretch. You actually lose a little bit stability.

So you definitely don't want to do your deep stretching before your workout. What you want to do before your workout is you want to prime, just like we talked about earlier in the episode. Now, that being said, there is some interesting science that supports that deep stretching post workout may actually contribute to muscle growth. And this would be immediately after you're done training a particular body part like chest, for example, if I just worked out my chest and I just did, you know, nine sets of different exercises and I got this crazy pump doing some deep chest stretches at the very end of the workout. The studies suggest that it might actually encourage muscle growth.

So I would say post workout is if you want to build muscle, post workout is a great time to incorporate the static stretching. As far as the rest days are concerned, static stretching on rest days is phenomenal for increasing range of motion. Not so great at increasing mobility. Just because you have longer range of motion doesn't mean you're connected to that range of motion. Well, if it's passive.

And I think there's ways of applying that. Even strengthening your end ranges is important. And I feel like that's a part of the process of training people don't really focus on. But that relates more to mobility And I feel like that's a part of the process of training people don't really focus on. But that relates more to mobility and being able to have access to that range of motion, to be able to get yourself out of that range of motion with strength. But like you're saying, it is damaging if we're going in, we're deep stretching, especially

passively going into a workout to where like, no, your muscles can not respond the same way and it could lead to an injury. Well, and there's a timeframe on that. And I believe, once you start stretching beyond 30 seconds, right? So if you hold a stretch, like, say, you're not gonna damper or hurt your workout if you, like 15 seconds.

Yeah, you do a quick 15 seconds or you're doing mobility type stuff that takes you through full range of motion. Like, that's totally fine. That's why we encourage mobility and priming before a workout because it is taking the muscle through full range of motion, like a stretch, but you're not holding it in a static position for beyond 30 seconds. It's not passive. Yeah. Once you hit that beyond 30 seconds, then it relaxes the body. That's what allows you to sink deeper into the stress, which is to sell CNS point. So I think the answer is, I mean, enjoy your stretching,

especially if you like it. It sounds like you're a flexible person. You are an ex-jimmness and you don't want to lose your flexibility. So post workout, get a great deep stretch, and on your off days, get some good, great deep stretches, and then before workout, stick to mobility and priming. I've been actually doing this recently

where at the end of my body part within my workout, stick to mobility and priming. I've been actually doing this recently where at the end of my body part within my workout, I'll do a deep weighted stretch. And every time I do it, I notice some results from it. I notice I get a little bit, almost feels like I, and I can tell I've been working out long enough or I can tell like, oh, that's doing something. And my pump intensifies is what ends up happening. I get a little bit more sore and I feel like I build a little bit muscle.

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that this was a myth when I saw flex wheeler, you know, jump into the splits on stage. And if you, and when I remember going through Arnold Schwarzenegger's Encyclopedia Bodybuilding, the original one, Tom Platz, who possessed, still arguably the greatest lower body in all of bodybuilding, he is demonstrating stretches in there and he's legit super flexible. Like splits can fold himself, you know, backwards, forwards,

like insane. I know Ben Pack, when we went and recorded with him, we were kind of challenging his mobility. He's dropping in a pistol squad. Holy shit. Super, super mobile. So that's a myth. It's not true.

Flexibility doesn't hinder muscle growth. Next question is from Cheney Passer. Being an LA fitness trainer, we only work with 30-minute sessions and two times per week is most common. What would your game plan be with someone who is trying to lose weight or someone who is trying to gain strength? The less that they're with you, the more that they're going to have to do on their own. So this is true for any personal training. So like if I had a client that I was training three days a week and they were meeting

with me three days a week, typically that meant all their workouts were done one day and they didn't have to do any on their own. That same client, if they were to come two days a week, would have to do some stuff on their own if they only came with, see me once a week, they'd have to do more stuff on their own. So within the case of doing a 30-minute session

with a client, you're gonna have to do a good job of giving them exercises and priming movements and everything to do. To get to the gym, 20 to 30 minutes before their session with you, do all this stuff, and then when they meet with you, they're ready for the nuts and bolts. They're ready for the...

It's an interesting thought, like going back into that environment and only having 30 minutes with somebody, like that's tough. Like I think really educating and establishing, like you said, the ritual ahead of time for the first few sessions would be crucial and just focusing on that of like what they do before they get there. And then also, like you could kind of take them through the workout you had drawn up for them and coach them through each one of those exercises

with just one or two reps, then have them duplicate that. Or you could even just focus on one gross motor movement, like a squat, or that was the focus, is just the skill of that for that amount of time. It's just tough to do like a full workout out of that 30 minutes without just doing hit. Well, that's just a 30 minutes. This is what I would do. I would spend the first two weeks taking them through all the exercises that I want to program. And then I would still

program an hour workout. The 30 minutes that they are with me two times a week, they would be spent on two to three of the complex movements. It's a difficult one. Right. So I'm deadlifting, squatting, overhead pressing, bench pressing, rowing, I'm doing the big movements with them, which will be the most mechanically demanding. And then I'm telling them after our 30 minutes, this is where you go to the machines and do some biceps and triceps and lateral raises. So, I'll explain it to you. Yes, the stuff that all I had to do was show them one time.

You know, this is how you do it. And then I feel good about even if they weren't doing it perfectly, the risk of injury or the risk of even performing incorrectly is very low. But I would want to control in those three, because in 30 minutes time, you're probably gonna be able to get through either two, maybe three complex movements, right? Because you're gonna spend a good 10 to 15 minutes

on squatting or deadlifting by itself. So maybe you get through one or two of the major movements, but then they can go do all their auxiliary movements on their own, and that's how I would program it. And if they're only coming in two days a week, then it's a two day week full body routine. And again, like to my point, or you could still design a three day,

a week program, they're just seeing you two times. So it really depends on the level that I'm dealing with. Stack those 30 minutes together. Yeah, it's back. They're obviously doing this because they're trying to lower the cost. They're buried in entry with personal training,

increase the volume. And I always have mixed feelings about the 30 minute sessions. Part of me is, part of me is like, okay, it's cool because we're gonna get more people to get assistance, even if it's not ideal. It's like a funnel.

I hate it, I hate it because it's just like group clients. It encourages trainers to train hit all the time because they only have 30 minutes. And so they're like, I wanna get the most, I wanna get the most. Yeah, and they, so they always train them in a circuit so they can get through the 30 minutes. The people are getting a hard workout

and are sweating so they think, oh, I'm getting my money's worth, but it's probably not what's ideal for a good majority of your clients. What would they be far better off is encouraging them still to come to gym and work out for an hour, 30 minutes, I'm going to spend with you. And even if it says one, I mean, I could spend 30 minutes of just like, if I twice a week, it's squatting on squatting in one day and then overhead pressing on the second day and then I'm telling them to do all these machine exercises on the rest of their half hour, the rest of their hour, doing stuff like

that. That would probably be more beneficial than running little circuits for 30 minutes every single time they see you. I don't know how people, because I've tried the 30 minute thing. I remember being in that environment and it just, I would always go to at least an hour to an hour and 10, you know, like just because I was trying to explain everything. So I used them. So we, I was there at 24 during this transition when they actually started to introduce these half hour sessions where I found value in them was this was I, it was actually more often experience lifters that had like they wanted me to help them with their squat. They want a little thing. They want to help with their deadlift. Like the

whole half hour was dedicated to me, priming your squat, showing you what you're doing well, what you're not doing well. And so I would encourage trainers to do that. If you only got 30 minutes and I see a client and I see their movement in a squat or they can't even perform a squat, I'm gonna try and explain to them the value of that

and that our full 30 minutes might be just getting them to be able to squat and The mobility work that's involved in that the priming that's worked in any sort of correctional work that's involved in that and then Cheaching proper mechanics on it man You take a client who's never squatted properly and you get them to squat properly that could be 30 minutes a day for Two times a week for quite a while and then but, but when you do, I promise you the benefits that they get from that are probably far better than what you could ever do in 30 minutes a hit for the next six weeks.

Yeah, because what you're probably getting is a lot of, like, you know, potential clients going, oh, I want to do the 30 minute session, but is that really enough time to get a good workout on the trails like, oh, trust me, 30 minutes is all you'll be able to handle. Last year. Yeah, trust me, 30 minutes is all you'll be able to handle. Yeah, believe me, 30 minutes is perfect, and then they'll take them through the 30-moat workout

and the client at 20 minute 20 is like, oh my god, I don't know if I can continue in the trainer. Three minutes of burgers. Yeah, and the trainer's like, follow the bike, jump jacks and then squatchers. Yeah, and the trainer's like, oh yeah, I see, told ya. 30 minutes, that's all you need, man. Just buy a bunch of sessions,

at 30 minutes, trust me, you can't do more than that, or have a deal. And just need man, just buy a bunch of sessions, 30 minutes, trust me, you can't do more than that, or have a deal. And you're just getting shitty, you're just getting shitty training. But yeah, if you do it right, I think it could be done well, kind of like the ways we're explaining right now. Look, if you go to mindpumpfree.com, you can download our guides. They're all absolutely free.

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