Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1064: Tracking Food Intake vs. Intuitive Eating When Cutting & Bulking, the Pros & Cons of Lifting Wraps & Sleeves, How to Overcome Mental Blocks to Lifting Heavy & MORE

Episode Date: June 29, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about tracking food intake vs. intuitively eating to cut or bulk, the pros & cons of protective gear such as knee wraps or sleeves, what to do about mental blocks when attempting to lift a heavy weight and how to deal with depression. Mind Pump out of the office: Adam’s ‘Baby Wedding’, Justin heads to Palm Desert and Sal to visit Yellowstone. (3:50) Mind Pump Live tickets selling fast! Get yours today! (16:27) A real-life horror story: Chernobyl. (17:12) Mind Pump recommends Agatha Christie's The ABC Murders on Amazon Prime. (22:21) Don’t call it a comeback...Toys ‘R’ Us is back from the dead! (23:51) How the ChiliPad ‘Ooler’ has been helping Justin and Adam sleep better in more ways than one. (27:53) Did hyenas live in Canada's Arctic during the last Ice Age? (34:25) The chemistry is real: Warriors’ Andre Iguodala reads aloud a hilarious story about Klay Thompson from his new book. (36:28) #Quah question #1 – You guys talk about intuitive eating. If you want to do a cut to lose body fat or spend time in a surplus to gain some muscle, would you go back to tracking intake or just consciously reduce or add food? (39:14) #Quah question #2 – What are your thoughts on protective gear such as elbow, knee wraps or sleeves? For me, specifically, I’ve had an ACL and meniscus tear and feel the compression really helps when I get to my working sets for squatting. (47:04) #Quah question #3 – What advice do you have for mental blocks during a lift? I get in my own head on heavy squats and tend to psyche myself out of the lift. (52:52) #Quah question #4 – Have you ever thought you may have dealt with depression, but were never really sure? If so, what was it like for you? How was it to work and train with people who are suffering from depression? (58:07) People Mentioned Jessica Rothenberg (@thetraininghour)  Instagram Andre Iguodala (@andre)  Instagram Klay Thompson (@klaythompson)  Instagram   Related Links/Products Mentioned June Promotion: MAPS Strong ½ off!! **Code “STRONG50” at checkout** Check out Mind Pump Live to get tickets for their next live event!   Visit ChiliPad for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “MPOOLER” at checkout** Watch Chernobyl on HBO NOW | Available Now | HBO.com Agatha Christie's The ABC Murders They’re Back! Toys R Us Is Set To Reopen Later This Year Bone-Crushing Hyenas Lived in Canada's Arctic During the Last Ice Age The Sixth Man: A Memoir – Book by Andre Iguodala Warriors’ Andre Iguodala reads aloud hilarious story about Klay Thompson from ‘The Sixth Man’ book Intuitive Nutrition Guide | MAPS Fitness Products - Mind Pump Osgood-Schlatter Disease (Knee Pain) - OrthoInfo - AAOS How Do I Choose The Right Weight? (LIFT RESPONSIBLY) Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this super awesome birthday special episode of my pump, Happy Birthday Doug. Thank you. Alright, so we talk all about fitness in this episode, but before we do, we have our fun introductory conversation. Here's what we talked about in the first 38

minutes. We start out by talking about our summer trips, which are coming up. I'm going to Yellowstone, Justin's going to Palm Desert in the summer. That's weird. I'm going to fry. And Adam's having a baby shower wedding, apparently. Yeah, lots of people. A baby wedding. Then we talked about the show on HBO called Chernobyl. Apparently it's really good, it's getting a lot of press. Adam brings up Agatha Christie's ABC murders on Amazon Prime, that looks fun. Justin talks about his uler made by Chili Pad.

This goes on your bed and it controls the temperature your bed, leaving it nice and cool for improved sleep. In fact, studies show that some people sleep in half the time and normally takes them to fall asleep when they use this kind of technology. And we got you guys a huge discount. Here's what you do. go to chiletechnology.com that's CHILI-L-I, technology.com, forward slash, mind pump, go on that page, you'll see the codes for the discounts, for the chili pad, it's MP, chili pad, that'll give you 25% off, for the uler, which is the one that you can control

with the app on your phone, use the code MPUler for 15% off. Then we talked about Toys of Russ coming back. Yeah, don't call it a comeback. Oh, I can't wait. Justin talked about something where apparently Hyenas are in Canada. That's kinda crazy.

Yeah. We talked about a new book called The Sixth Man by Heddy Say's name, Adam, Igwedala. Yes. I said it right. Yes. Also, it right. Yes. Also, mind pump live tickets on sale for San Francisco. It'll be going on July 12th.

Go to mindpumpalive.com, or you can wait for July 26th in Seattle. Then we get to the fitness portion of this episode. First question, we talk a lot about intuitive eating, but if you want to really get lean or build a lot of muscle, should you go back to tracking your food intake or should you just consciously reduce or add food? Next question, we give our thoughts on protective gear like elbow and knee wraps or sleeves.

We talk all about their benefits and their detriment. The next question, this person has a mental block for heavy lifts. She's afraid to get under a heavy bar and do a heavy squat. We give our advice on how you can feel more confident about pushing your body with heavy weight, because heavy weight builds the most muscle. And the final question, this person wants to know if we've ever dealt with depression we all have, so we share our stories. But we also talk about what it was like to train people who were depressed and the things that we found

that helped them. Of course, we're not doctors, but we do have experienced training people in different varieties and forms. Also, 48 hours left for the MAPS Strong 50% off sale. That's it, there's only two days left. Now, remember, MAPS Strong is our most effective muscle building metabolism boosting program to date. It's only two days left. Now remember map strong is our most effective muscle building

metabolism boosting program to date. It's 50% off. Here's what you do. Go to mapsstrong.com MAPSSTRONG.com and use the code strong50 STRONG50 without a space for the discount. Make sure you do it soon because again this sale's gonna be gone and this promotion will not come back this year. Get on it. Tomorrow Adam you have the massive baby shower. Baby we're calling it the baby wedding. Baby wedding. Baby, it's like a baby wedding. Yeah just a just a close, you know, a real tight group of like 150 people. Yeah.

You know, that's like, that's RSVP, like knowing Katrina and her crazy family, you know. And people are already asking her, so she did like, I think we're doing like 12 to four or some of that. And so everyone's like, we don't really have to leave it for, do we? I'm like, oh, great. This is gonna get crazy.

Oh, good times. And then Justin, what are you doing? I'm out, man. Yeah, I know, but where you going? I'm like, oh, great. This is gonna get crazy. Oh, good times. And then Justin, what are you doing? I'm out, man. Yeah, I know, but where you going? I'm going to Palm Desert. Oh, yeah. What's in Palm Desert? Palm Desert is a desert.

Great place to go in the summer, huh? A lot of swingers. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's Palm Springs, dude. Oh, no. Which is close by. Oh, as you say, it's not the same area.

No, it is. It is. It's right next to it. So you guys are gonna do some swing in this weekend? Totally. And bringing the kids. Wow. That would be weird. Yeah, it is. It is. It's right next to it. So you guys are going to do some swing in this weekend? Totally. And bringing the kids. Wow.

That would be weird. Yeah, very weird. No, and you're going to stay there for the whole week? Yeah. Well, not the whole week. But yeah, I mean, we're going to be doing stuff like probably going down to San Diego bit and then also going to Disneyland. Now, where do you stay in Palm Desert?

Do you stay at the Marriott there? Typically, yeah, we do the Marriott, is that the one with the the gondola inside? The oh yeah, yeah, that's someone yeah my parents are like a time share and so you still like we use a lot for that But we're actually this time Courtney sister She has a place and so we're staying at her place. She's somewhere else like I think in Boston So we're gonna be using her place, which is gonna be cool. You know, I used to live there, right?

Yeah, I know. He told me that, and I was like, trying to get the name of the, you know, the gym that used to manage there. Yeah, it was a Palm Desert Athletic Club. I don't think it existed anymore. It was on Lening place. It's behind the post office. So if you go there, see if it's there.

I will go there, work out, and take a pick. Yes. And be like, I'm in South Stompin' Ground. We had rock climbing and we had a wine bar in there. Isn't it known for nudist colonies all over there? Did the desert people are weird in general? It's a, well first of all, for me honest. Summer time down there is very strange, because in the winter time, it's popping,

there's lots of people, the weather's great, and the winter's like 85 degrees every day, 75 to 85 degrees. Summer time, it gets like 120 degrees. Yeah, death. Like normal, like you wake up, no joke, I would wake up at 6 a.m. to go to work. 6 a.m. it was like 90 degrees outside,

didn't make any sense. And half the population is gone. Cause everybody, a lot of people have houses there that just go in the winter. Yeah. So the snow bird. So you go to the mall and it's a fucking, it's like a, you can see tumbleweeds like, it's not, it's not ideal the time, but it's like, you know, that was in the schedule. So, but we're like, before we looked at the weather and everything, it was like 110, 112, like crazy. But now it's 101, 102. It's a cool one.

I was like, okay, that's more tolerable. Like, you know, my shoes won't melt to the ground. So there was a night club that we used to always party at in Palm Desert. I think it was called bananas. I see the bananas are Zelda. It's kind of like a ganky stuff. Yeah, it does sound like that.

It was weird. No girls were over there. So strange. Totally, you're seeing. Everybody's friendly though. Everybody's really, really done. Yeah, it does sound like that. It was weird, no girls were over there in the hours. Yeah. It's so strange. Totally, you're seeing it. Everybody's friendly though. Everybody's really, really friendly. Yeah, real cool, real cool, real cool. Shirts are optional. Everybody was feeling happy and still happy left.

Lots of dance things. Hey, boom. Anyway, no, it's good town though. I like that town. And Palm Springs is a cool town too. So you're there the whole time, Justin? Yeah, I'll be the pretty much the whole time Yeah, we're going to we're gonna fly nobody asked you. Oh my bad

Moving on I'm just kidding bro. Tell us what you do You got cool ideas too. Don't worry. I don't tell you Come on tell us what you remember your little I don't know how to say it anymore. Come on, tell us what you think. Remember when you were little? And your friend's like, fuck with you. And you pretend like you didn't hurt your feelings

with your head. Yeah, I know I'm cool. And we're going home real quick. I'm going to take my bike. I got crazy allergies. I got my mom's call with me. Yeah, I got to go. Are you crying?

Yeah, I got to take my football. I got to take my football. I can't leave you here with you guys. My eye inches. No, we're doing, we're going to Yellowstone. So we're gonna go into the North entrance. Oh, of course, right. Of Yellowstone, then we're gonna be in the West entrance of Yellowstone.

So we're gonna spend time in both places. And then we're going to drive down to Vail, Colorado for a wedding. And I heard it's beautiful and Vail. I've never been there. What do you, it is beautiful up there. What are you most excited about yellowstone? I've always wanted to go to Yellowstone.

What are you most excited to see? To see. I just want to see, I want to see Buffalo. Yeah, I want to see Buffalo and their natural habitat. I want to see all the bears. Yeah. Dude, if I saw a bear, you know I have a thing with bear, right? You do? Yes. Come on, bro, I told you the story. That's the theme? Yeah. Dude, if I saw a bear, you will. You know, I have a thing with Bear Fights. You do?

Yes. Come on, bro, I told you the story. That's the theme of the baby shark. Bears? Yeah, bears. Is it really? Are you gonna have an actual bear there? There's gonna be a bear cave there.

Wow. What do you mean a cave? They, her sister built a bear cave. What's a bear cave? Yeah. I saw it the other day. So we, this is a fucking ridiculous thing has gotten. Like, we went, we stopped by her brother's sister's house

and they had scoured their property and gathered all of these branches and built a cave. It's literally from Doug to you and a cone all the way back, like a cave out of like tree branches. Do you think that you guys are like a Sadie Hawkins dance for photos? Do you think that there's like like a Sadie Hawkins dance for photos? Do you think that there's like a little bit of overdoing it, like a little, like a smidgen, we passed that.

Like the day it was decided we were gonna do it. The stuff that like, there's some cool shit though too. Like I bet you guys are giving away gifts to the guests and their gangster guests. Everybody gets Nike's. It's getting stupid. Yeah. Out of control.

Out of control. That's awesome. I still want to bear claws. What I don't know and what I don't know if I believe is that we we are not spending any money She keeps claiming to me like no, we haven't spent any money. We haven't spent any how money But I'm not like you know, I'm not a Nazi about it I don't go in her bank accounts and check all that shit like I just trusted when she says that but I don't know if I believe her Wow, yeah, I think I think that she's I think she's sliding some money back there to make sure she's got cash. Yeah, yeah. I think she's funneling money.

She definitely greets and off all the, yeah. No, I want to see a bear, dude. I want to see an actual bear, but I have a thing with bears because remember I told you guys when I was, it was like 12 or 13. I got chased by a bear. So yeah, bears and I are,'s a there's a what is that Like mortal enemies now yellow stone it just yellow sort of grizzly there grizzly right? So if you go to like you semitate you can see a black bear black bears are scared black bears are the pussies of the bear kingdom

Right, they'll still fuck you up. Oh, yeah, no, we'll kick your ass, but they're scared because they they evolved with predators They evolved with grizzlies and grizzly would eat them. So they get scared with loud noises and shit. Do you know what happens when you make a loud noise around the grizzly? It chase you, fucks you up. It just kills you. You guys remember when we interviewed the guy

who got attacked by a grizzly bear? That's crazy. I gotta go back and revisit that. He had the biggest balls of anybody. Crazy story. I couldn't believe that story. That was a crazy story. So I hope to see that.

I hope to see the Buffalo. I want to see the, of course, the geyser. And there's, there's a segment of Yellowstone where it's just, it looks like another planet. I've seen pictures of it. I don't know. Do you give us a sense of, you know, the apocalypse, though, because that place could blow and roll going well. Oh, it's, you know, it's a super volcano, right? Yeah. Okay. You know, the super volcano is? I don't know. What's the difference between a regular volcano and a super volcano? It's super. It wears a cape.

No, super volcano, just the size of a mature size. And it's active. And so at some point in the future, we don't know when, it can happen 10,000 years from now, it could happen next month, highly unlikely. But at some point, it will go off and when it does, everybody's dead. everybody. So then like the US will be gone It'll be and then the whole world will be covered with so much. So all these people that yeah, it'll just it'll drop the

Tampers and entire climate everything so the irony of all these people that were listening to the almost 30 podcasts that bought all their earthquake Protection. You're not worried about the wrong thing bro. Yeah, right? No, and you know, it's funny is that the almost 30 podcasts that bought all their earthquake protection. And give him up on for sure. Volcanoes just get a funnel. You're not, you're worried about the wrong thing, bro. Yeah, right? No, and you know what's funny is that the animals, I just read an article, it's funny because I'm going over there, right? I was joking with Jessica.

They're observing that the animals are for whatever reason moving away from the volcano part of Yellowstone. You lie. I started God. Really? I told Jessica's like, wow, we're gonna, we're gonna get a front row seat. The shit goes off.

You know what I mean? Oh wow. Like, oh wow, look at that. If, if something like that were to go off and you, and it were to just cook the United States, would you want a front row seat, or would you rather, yeah, you might as well. A delayed, I just, a delayed, my face dead.

Yeah, what would you do for reals? What would you do if all of a sudden you're like, and this is like a real deal news thing, and you're like, in 24 hours, everyone's gonna be dead, and there's nothing you could do about it. I would, you'd have to, I mean, I would drive to the ocean and start swimming out. I mean, you're not gonna be able to book a plane,

let's be honest. So all the assholes I think they're gonna be out. Where are you gonna fly? Well, you would try fly somewhere. No way. Well eventually it's gonna go hit the ocean and then it would cool. No, no, no, no, here's a deal.

The volcano would be that big, it would just blow up the whole earth. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no the blast and the heat and all that stuff will destroy lots of surrounding stuff. But then what ends up happening is you won't be able to breathe. It shoots so much toxic shit into the universe, into the universe, into the atmosphere. It'll surround the earth. It'll lower the earth's temperature by enough degrees to where it'll kill plants, then it'll kill animals, then the fallout, all that stuff. It'll kill most life on earth. Most.

You gotta go to area 51 and get underground. Like way under. You know, like a nuclear fallout? No, a rad. How the, would you wanna do that and come out? No. Well, better than dying. It's left up there.

When you need to come out and everyone's gone. Well, I mean, hopefully you go in there with a couple of your friends. Yeah, then you're stuck with just them. I love you guys, but. There's a whole repopulating process. That's a puzzle. Oh, shit.

You know what I mean? Yeah, you better brings some people. Very nervous. At least there's some winners in there. Yeah, that is. Ladies, we gotta save you guys. All you guys get in here real quick. Guys, walk out there.

Only two more spaces. Yeah, exactly. Bro, you guys did this one out. Start off a meeting with all the survivors. Like, okay, so. So you don't, we have a big responsibility on our shoulders. We need to make sure that the human, you know, species survives. I feel like my strategy is the best.

Come on, what, what, what? I'm the ocean. Yeah, I start swimming. How far you swim, you'll drown. I got 24 hours, I can't breathe far. Yeah, I can swim. I get a canoe, you know, say I get a canoe, start paddling.

You, what you, what I, the great way it's gonna make a snack out of you. Yeah, they're gonna eat you. You think so? Yeah. They're gonna be like, oh, I gotta get a lunch before I die. Yeah. They won't even know. They would.

Anyways, so, uh, it's weird. But yeah, now I'm excited to go there, see the, the, the largest national park in America. And then of course head down to Colorado to. Now, it's so big that, it's so big that it should take you more than a day even to like go through the whole thing, right? It would take you more than that. It would take you maybe even. It's so big if you drove through the whole thing,

it would take you, I think a day. Yeah, that's right. So you have to, you have to, just to drive through it to see the whole thing, you could book a whole week vacation just to do that. Now are you, now either you or Jessica, like big into photography, or will either one of you have a camera or anything?

She has a camera and she's been big into it before. I don't know, that's a good question. I'll see if she wants to take her camera and do that. Yeah, you guys should do something like that. I just made a statement of asking that question. When we, one time we, or not one time, there's a lot of times when we go places, we'll always put a post out there to tell people,

is there's any local photographers that would want to shoot some of the events and then people like apply and, you know, Taylor and Rachel have to go through all this stuff and I remember talking to one and they were like, hey, this kid, we're doing this kid with that and then of course, one of the last questions they asked before they agreed to let them come shoot

is what kind of camera are you shooting with? So we know, and iPhone 9, you know, that's what you are shooting with. Yeah, yeah, somebody offered it. Yeah, I don't know if I told you guys that's, yes, somebody offered a shoot with a verb dance with their iPhone. Wow, that's cool.

I mean, if iPhone shoots great photos, I'm really gotten better at this. You should check this out. He's just walking around like this. Yeah, that's all right. Speaking of the events, Denver sold out. Yeah. Gone. Yeah. It's sold out. The only ones that you lose, everybody. Which ones are left? San Francisco and Seattle. And Seattle. Seattle is also almost sold out. The one that surprises me is San Francisco is still good. I think a good 15 to 20 spots. I

think left on San Francisco, which is in our backyard. What the fuck? Hey man, what's up with your friends? I don't know, I'm a bear, yeah. Tell me your friends, Justin, where's our bear, are our people? Well, whatever.

If there's some leftover I'll bring out. I already have my friends. I got a family that I don't wanna come. It'll be great if I have my cousins in the audience too. I'll make sure they laugh at me and that you guys. You know what I mean? You'll tell a joke, wait, don't laugh when Adam or Justin make a joke.

Just crickets. Only me. Anyway, it's mindpumpalive.com. So if you're listening right now and you wanna check out You know what I mean? Yeah, I'd tell a joke. Don't laugh when Adam or Justin make a joke. Just crickets. Only me. Yeah. Anyway, it's mindpumpalive.com. So if you're listening right now and you want to check out some of these live events, dude, I've been watching this crazy. Remember I told you I was going to start watching Chernobyl.

I think it's on HBO. How the people are talking about that show? It's, dude, it's crazy because you get like an insight to how everything went down and just how what is that? I'm so confused right now. Do you know what Chernobyl? No, no, no, no, no, you don't know in history. What happened? No, please tell me. So in the Soviet Union, I told you I'm terrible at history. Yeah, at the time, at the time, at the time, at science. Okay. At the time, you had the Soviet Union at this time, and they had a nuclear reactor in this particular town, Chernobyl.

And I don't remember what happened. I think it was, they were doing some tests. Oh, it spelled CHE in. Oh, okay, I've seen that. They were doing some routine tests and something went haywire. In the 70s, right? And they found that it was like sabotaged,

because it's like like through the protocol, basically, they're just trying to cover up all their tracks like the government was getting involved and trying not to let public knowledge of how bad everything was, like get out. And it just goes through this whole process of them trying to deny, you know, how the severity of what they're dealing with.

And then you see people going there and just getting like horrifically burned by all this radiation and just like all the officials that were trying to, you know, come back and cover it up and then watch it everybody, it says to the public and then evacuate certain people. Bro, it was so crazy. One of the greatest, the worst disasters in world history,

it, I mean, you had a nuclear meltdown. It became so toxic. You still can't go there. No, you still can't. Yeah, I don't think you can go there for like another thousand years or something silly like that. What? Yeah, it's gonna be toxic for a long time.

To these miners, I got to like, episode three or whatever, but they had to hire a group of miners to come kind of dig underneath it to... It was a suicide mission. Yeah, it was a suicide, because basically, if not, the core was gonna melt all the way down and then get into the water supply and then basically get all the way out to the block sea

and fucking contaminate everybody's water and everything and kill everybody. Whoa. Yeah, so they were like... They had to cover a bunch of bad asses that went in there and just dug it out and basically tried to, poor concrete to lift it back up

so it didn't burn all the way through. Yeah, they had to cover the whole thing in concrete and then evacuate. Nobody, you know, you're shit ever. Do you know because of Chernobyl worldwide cancer rates went up like a couple percent? Wow.

In the whole world. Yeah. Damn. And the surrounding areas cancer rates went up. Well, it's just so crazy because to me it's fascinating because I know nothing about radiation and just like, you know, when you get that close to the core and like how you get all the particles on you, like how then now you can transfer just by like visiting somebody in the hospital, like how much you actually now absorb from their radiation.

And so they're like transferring this to other people that are coming to visit them. And then it was just like, it's just baffling to me because they didn't even know what they were doing. They didn't know how to handle it properly. How many people die? Oh my God. I mean, total millions. Yeah.

Total, if you count all the people that die after math, yeah. Years later. The direct, directly from it, I'm not sure, but I know it's probably worldwide since, it's been millions. It's like a real life horror story. You know, in Japan, when Fukushima got, you know,

blasted from the tsunami, people going in to fix it or going in to do certain things, you know that you're gonna go in there to die. You know you're gonna go in there, and you're gonna come out, and you're gonna be sick, or you're gonna get cancer in a few years. And so in Japan, and this is just, it just to me, it's such a, got such a powerful story, you had all these elderly people

in their 70s and 80s volunteering for Fukushima because they're like, I'm already old, so I'll go in there and I'll do it. It's all these people volunteering to go in there and sacrifice themselves. Yeah, and that's the thing. And through this documentary, to you see like really the best of humanity too,

where people realize that if they didn't do anything, then like millions and millions of people were going to get affected and die. And so they're like, well, I'm going to do something. And you see that. Like, it's pretty cool, dude. The sad thing about this is that because of Chernobyl, three-mile island, Fukushima, you know, we're so afraid of nuclear power, but the reality is if done properly, especially with the new

technology, they're extremely safe and clean sources of energy. Like nuclear power, literally, if we do it right, can really power the world. The problem is, is that we're so scared of it because when we started putting these nuclear reactors out, a lot of the technology wasn't great. And we had instances like the ones I had just mentioned. So people like, fuck that, we don't want to mess with that. But the technology and the science around them and what we could potentially do with nuclear power,

I mean, we wouldn't need oil to power the world. Now, are you guys speaking a series? Are you guys familiar with Agatha Christie? Do you know who that is? No. So she's like a 1920s author, like one of the most well-known authors. I think she sold billions of books,

like one of the most renowned authors of all time. She has a series on, is it? It's on Amazon. And we, Katrina and I have been, is it, if you guys like murder mystery type movies or shows, or depends, but yes. This one's really good. Yeah, it's because especially since it's got a release,

she's known for murder mystery plot twists, things like that. It's called ABC murders. And it's like, it's only a three part series. So I think they're taking, and I don't know if you're gonna see more of them come out. I believe this is one of the first one of her many novels that she's done, that they did a little three-part, one-hour,

each one-hour series on the ABC Murrs. Really fucking good. Yeah, really good. Katrina and I just finished it last night. So it's called Agatha Christie. Yeah, she's the author. It's called ABC Murders. ABC, where's it on?

It's on pretty sure it's Amazon. Maybe Duck and Lada. Oh, yes, I saw it. Yeah, she's the author. It's called ABC murders. ABC and what is it on? It's on pretty sure it's Amazon. Maybe ducking. Oh, yes. I saw it. Yeah. Okay. And it's got the The guy I really like the guy that's the main character and I can't think of his name, but he's in rounders. He's What other movie is he in that I really like he's got a couple movies that I like that he's in but that was a really good You know, Benj was someone looking good, you know, binge one, someone looking for something to binge through the weekend or something like that. Mad Damon. Didn't know that that day.

So you guys know, you guys remember how Toys of Us went bankrupt? Yeah. Which was kind of a sad day. I don't know about you guys, but I had such fond memories of doing. A lot of nostalgia there, yeah. Yeah, that was the place.

Like if mom and dad took me to Toys of Us, I was like, do you know what Toys of Us did before you finished your story that didn't exist when we were kids, oh there he is, we're there, John Mappin, John Mappin, yes, thank you Doug. You know what Toys of Rust did, that they didn't do when I was a kid

that I thought was fucking brilliant and so cool is for your birthday. And we did this for my nephew when he turned five, he's now 12. So when he turned five, we did this with him. And they would give you a gun, a scanner gun, and then you register for his birthday. And then you let him go through the store

and shoot all the toys that he wants. And you want the register? Yeah, that he wants, right? And so then you, as kids or aunts and uncles, stuff like that, you just go on to toys or us. And then you think of a wedding register. Yeah, yeah, but it gives the kid an experience to go in the store and just,

I thought it was such a brilliant business move to do something like that. And it wasn't, but maybe a year or two later when they started to file for a chapter. Well, with the reopening. What? They got new investors and what they're gonna do is they're gonna open up like these smaller Toys of Us stores

that are like 10,000 square feet and they're gonna be up like these smaller toys or restores that are like 10,000 square feet and They're gonna be more about the experience Play areas areas where you could you could try out new toys see that smart and the whole idea is to give kids an experience And either buy the toys there or order them online. That's like well not an experience part but the small store remember It was a kb kids k KB toys. KB toys. Is that non-existent? I don't think so. Look at that up, Doug.

See if that one went under. KB toy store. That was popular. Remember almost every mall had a KB toy store. Yeah. No, but see, think about this. For a new toys or us, you take your kids there and they play and have fun. And then mom, I want this one or dad.

I want this thing and I play. And you the buy it there or you buy it online. That's why I thought this was so brilliant. That's what they tapped into that I thought was so smart. So it was crazy to see. I mean, but it's just an exam, Amazon just got everybody. That's and I just wonder that like how can you take off with, so when the KB go, as an internet company, I'm like, 13 hundred stores.

Wow. And then they went out of business in 2009. Imagine building a company to the size of having 1300. You're never safe. Yeah, that's a reminder right there. If you're a company and you get big, you have to continue to compete for market share because there's a lot of stories of companies

that were blocked all the time. Yeah, Blockbuster was huge. There was a Blockbuster in every town. How many locations were there? Gone. There's just one. There's that one, right? That you told me about Oregon.

Yeah, my crazy. I feel like it's blockbuster. To me, I mean, to me, it's more like a shame on you. Like they dropped the ball when Netflix came with them. It's tech. We were evolving. You were already starting to see MP3s. You were seeing things like that where we could go.

So I feel like, I don't know, I feel like if I was running the show there, I would have had at least the smarts to kind of foresee potentially the future. Having a toy store, I don't know if I would have picked up on that. I don't know if I would have went like, especially having 1,300 and kids, by and stuff like.

Well, this is the situation that some of these companies get stuck in, like Blockbuster, like Toys of Us. They get put in a situation where they have to fundamentally change their model, which cost millions of millions of dollars and could potentially lay off lots of people or stick with what you've been doing and making money doing. And so it's a hard gamble. Yeah.

I mean, it sounds obvious to us now, but back when Blockbuster was first introduced to Netflix and laughed them out of the room, to them it wasn't that obvious. And they would have had to completely change their model, because they were a store-based business. So that means they would have had to completely change their model just to survive,

which that's a tough decision. Imagine that. Too much a smell in your own forest. Well, I hope this time it's, you know, it helps them out with that business strategy. I've been meaning to ask you Justin before I forget, you were just talking about Offair, how I was asking you about the the the chili uller for sleep because Adam's been raving about it. Now you've been using it. Yeah. And you've been talking about how good your sleep is. And I wanted to know if it positively affected,

because I know you said you've been sleeping better. Is it making your reflux better too? Oh, interesting. Yeah, no, I haven't noticed any reflux in that. Weird. Yeah, so I think there's multiple factors with that, because of diet and also, like, time schedule-wise with eating, but I still would get reflux

and I would sometimes have to get up. Usually it was like when I was getting interrupted sleep, I would get up and then I'd have to take some thumbs because I don't know, the reflux would kind of start to go once I started to get super hot and irritated. Interesting. And so, yeah, it's been awesome, dude, because with the ULAR, this one you can do on your phone,

like Adam was describing last time. And so I have it set, like at the perfect like 65 I've found is like a good temperature for me to stay consistently asleep but not feel like it's too cold or I can notice it. But so that's the thing. It's kind of interesting. It's not like laying down in it,

it's like freezing or cold, you know, and like, because that, I wanted it cold when it was really hot. We had that heat wave coming through, but just having a consistent temperature, it makes such an interesting difference. It's such a game changer that I think in the future, beds are gonna come with these things already,

a part of them. It's that big of a game changer, because I've been doing a lot of reading on how temperature affects your sleep and how using devices like the, either the chili pad or the uller, in terms of sleep, and the studies are remarkable. Like it makes a huge difference for people either the chili pad or the uller, in terms of sleep, and the studies are remarkable. It makes a huge difference for people for their sleep,

and I have yet to use one because I'm waiting for mine to come in the mail. I can't wait to use it to try out, but it's a game from what I've read. This is one of the biggest sleep game changers that exists, like bigger than almost anything else that any single thing that you can do. Well, it's interesting too because Courtney noticed like I kind of thrash a bit when I sleep,

like I'll turn from one side to the other more of a side sleeper than I am on my back. So, but she's like, yeah, you've been pretty much solid in one position. I wake up in the same position and it's just like, it's tripping me out. Now the uler has the app, right, on just like, it's tripping me out. Now the Uler has the app on the phone, so you can control the technology. It also allows you to turn the, to make it louder or less or quieter, so make it a little stronger or not.

Yeah, so the chili pad is just the original version. It's a little bit cheaper. It's the unit's a little bit bigger. It's a, you have to control with the remote. It doesn't have the, the white, the three levels of remote, it doesn't have the three levels of white noise, and the way the three levels of white noise work is, if I wanted to, for example, if I forgot to turn it on, now I leave mine on constantly now, by the way,

because the motor on it doesn't suck that much energy, it's easier for me just to set the temperature, I really like, just let it run all day long, and it's just, and it's water, there's no EMF, so the pad itself is just watering. Right, right. But if I had, like if I had forgot to turn it on and my bed is warmed up to like 72

and I like it at 54 or whatever, and I want it really cold and I'm about to go to bed in the next hours too, I can turn the motor all the way up to the third level. And even then it's still, to me, it's not, I think the noise sounds great, but you have three levels, so you could put it on really quiet. The third level down, which is what I do now, is I just keep it on the lowest level. Well, why do noise helps people sleep anyway?

Right, so it's just on the middle one. Is that what you do? Yeah, so that part is cool. That is something that I've tell people though, if you like it at a specific temperature, and if it's really cold like I do, I think it's smarter just to keep it on. And it's not pulling that much in.

I mean, I haven't seen a difference on my bill. Like, I mean, this one coming up will be the first one where I've had it for a full 30 days. So I'll tell you if I think. Yeah. And you're still not waking up to pee in the night. I mean, I've had a couple of nights where now, so even having a night of sleeping all the way through was unbelievable for me.

So most nights, I sleep all the way through. There's still, well, still get me, because I still think that I have a small bladder. If I, the other day, I worked out later in the day, like five, six o'clock at night and train, and when I do that, I drink like a half a gallon of gallon of water. So I can't help but still get up and have to go pee.

But on a normal day which has been great and going to bed if it's cool, I'll sleep the entire night. And like what Justin's saying, I'm not tossing and turning. I hit the pillow and I'm out. It just, yeah, no, I'm waiting for my- Of all the sponsors that we have, I mean I love all the products. There's not there except for, you know,

I talked trash about some of the ones I don't use a lot, but for sure, I definitely think I use the uler and value that partnership more than almost anything else that we've done yet. And I did not see that coming. I didn't even know anything about those. Taylor was the first person to show me it. And when we started to use it, I was just blown away. So I'm

I'm sold forever on that thing. And it's depending on what you can afford. I mean, you can get crazy with it and get like the Cadillac version where you have the, you know, cow king size, both sides are controlled. So his and hers, she can be at one temperature. You can be at another and you could spend a lot of money on something on like the bad ass one or you can go with just the at another, and you could spend a lot of money on something unlike the bad ass one, or you can go with just the original one and save, spend a couple hundred bucks, which is not bad at all for what you're getting for it. Well, we got the biggest discount out of all the other.

That was dope. That's one of the things I do appreciate too about, and this is all, you know, the credit tailor, because Taylor does this for us. He's really adamant about about if we work with a brand that he knows other companies are working with, we will take less money as a partnership in order to give our audience a better deal

than what anybody else is. So that's something that we don't talk a lot about that on air and tell people that, but that's the truth. And we try and work that out with almost, now some sponsors, they just won't do it, they won't negotiate and they have their discount that they do and it's generic and it is what it is. But some companies are flexible where they're like, okay, well,

if you guys are willing to take less money, we can obviously give more to your audience. And we always, we always opt to do that if we can. Of course. So, absolutely. Yeah, I think that's pretty cool. What's this thing in Canada with the hyenas that you said you were going to bring up? You told me to remind you. Yeah, no, like I guess in the ice age, they found remnants of hyenas that were like wolf size. And they came over that bearing straight landmass. And they've because they found, I guess traces from these teeth

that they found like within this bone pile and it was, they traced it back to hyenas of all creatures. I guess they got out competed, but I had no idea we had hyenas here in North America. Wow. Have you ever seen a hyena up close? No. No, I can't see.

No, I've heard it's pretty, they're big. They're sketchy too. Yeah, they're fucking're fucking huge dude. They're dope to watch hunt They're huge and they have one of the most powerful bites. Yeah That you can I mean they're they're dangerous predators to deal with for sure. Yeah, but they're crazy look Well, I think a pack of hyenas. I'll take down some of the biggest biggest animals out there Oh, dude. Yeah, you get four, four, five hyenas will scare a lion, I believe. They're pretty crazy.

Well, that is crazy. I think it's just interesting, because there's always like, they find new species that existed like simultaneously each other. Like it was eating and scavenging for like mammoths and you know, like saber tooths were around. It's like, it's just crazy to see what that like landscape probably looked like back in the day.

Oh, it's crazy at some point. Who's that one guy, Graham Hancock, who talks about how there's water erosion on like the sphinx in Egypt. So he's like, you know, this thing is a lot older than we think because water wasn't here until, you know, it wasn't here when we thought this was built. It was way before that. Yeah. And try to make that argument.

And if you go and look over the great planes and you see from a bird's eye perspective, you can really see how large masses of these glaciers had to have quickly gone through and just carved out our landscape. Yeah, so it makes a lot of sense. He's kind of interesting to listen to. Yeah.

Did you guys see the article that I shared in my answer story yesterday on Clay Thompson and Igodala? No. Of course not. Of course it was sports. I know you didn't fuck it up. I thought that was looking at Justin to Justin as you missed it.

No, so this was great. My buddy shared this with me first and I'm so glad he had the shared the actual article so I could share with the audience. Those that didn't click over and read it. Ego Doll is probably, if not my favorite player, one of my favorite players on the Warriors team. I just think he's extremely humble. On any other team, he'd be a starter for sure. When he came over to the Warriors, he accepted the six-man role, which is basically coming off the bench and just shows you what kind of humility he has. He's one of the highest IQ players. And he just wrote a book called The Six Man. And in the book, he does a, he has a little excerpt

from in there that talks about Clay Thompson. And they had this team building exercise where coach went around and asked all the players in the room, like, like your your highest moment ever playing as a warrior and everyone's going around sharing and when it gets the clays turn to share. Everyone assumed he was going to say that the highest moment was the day he scored 37 points in a quarter against Sacramento because that was an NBA record, but he didn't. Instead, I did read this instead. He said my best moment was the one night I caught a pass and I was like 50 feet from the basketball hoop and I was about to shoot it and all of a sudden

I hear Andre being like, what the fuck, Clay, you're 50 feet out and I thought about it for a second and shot it anyway. It went in and I was like, yeah, fuck you. Yeah, Andre. He's talking shit. Fuck you. We all had a good laugh about that. I was like, wow, really dog?

That was your best moment. Yeah. I'm right. He's talking shit. Fuck you. We all had a good laugh about that. I was like, wow, really dog? That was your best moment. Yeah. I love that. No, it just, it highlights the chemistry that the guys all have. And I think that's so great that they can talk and act and be that way.

And I mean, we talk all the time when people ask me questions about what it's like working with you guys and how we are on air. And are we really like that? I mean, Matt, I think that if we dig on each other more than anybody else that I've ever met and I think that's, it just, it speaks to the chemistry and the relationship and I think it's so important

to success and their great example of that and I can't wait to read the book. Oh, awesome. This clause brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance-the-edit edge. Try Organify totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I dot com.

And use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from critter Marie 87. You guys talk about intuitive eating. If you want to do a cut to lose body fat or spend time in a surplus to gain some muscle, would you go back to tracking intake or just consciously reduce our ad food? Personally, 100% yes. Yeah, yeah, 100% yes. I'm with you.

Look, okay, think of intuitive eating like this. You're on the freeway. Everything's smooth, you're driving, you put it on cruise control. Leave it on cruise control until shit changes. Time to race. And you need to hit your brakes. Someone drives by and pipes you. Yeah, you already got a,

or you're about to throw time. You got to take it out of cruise now. Are you challenging me, sir? Or are you about to drive recklessly, like Adam's talking about? No, I mean, here's the thing. Intuitive eating should, the goal is to get to a point where

a majority of the way you eat and live is intuitive. You take care of yourself, you eat foods because you enjoy them for their true value. You can enjoy food for a teetanistic value sometimes, but most of the time you eat things because they're healthy. Your body weight settles at a natural healthy body weight, which is relatively lean, decent amount of strength and muscle. But then you want to take your body to another level. You want to push it to a new level.

Well, then yes, you're going to have to, or you don't have to, but ideally, you would track so that you don't fall into this, trying to intuitively build and intuitively cut past the certain point. It's very difficult because there's nothing intuitive about it. You know what sucks about this question is I remember when we first started talking about intuitive eating eating and we had to write a guide about it because some of you didn't know what the fuck it was. And it's now turned into another buzz term. It's turned into something that everyone's talking about and it's another way to get clicks and it's another way to sell people and ideas and it's like, man, we're starting

to bastardize something that I think is really good and really important for people to understand. But the truth of the matter is that most people are not ready to intuit of eat. When I think back of all the clients that I trained, there's not a single client that, you know, first hiring me, I would say, hey, we're gonna try and intuit of eat right now. None.

All my clients I had to educate first on, what is a car, what is a protein, how many calories do you need, what's a lot, what's a little, what do we eat if we want to lean out, what do we want to gain, all that stuff, you have to do that for a while to really have a grasp of what it looks like and what, in order for you to start to intuitive eat. And then when you're intuitive eating, you're basically, you're still guessing, I don't care what you say, And if you're just trying to be healthy and have a healthy relationship with food,

I think it's a very good place to be in where we all should strive to be. But if you have a photo shoot coming up or you've got summer and you've got the beach ahead of you and you want to get in the best shape you've ever been in your life or you're competing or you're doing something where you wanna make moves

and you wanna change your physique? 100% try. I mean, still with all the experience that I have, if I all of a sudden decided that, hey, you know what, we're going to Hawaii in four weeks and I really want to be in some of the best shape I've been in a while, you bet you bet your ass. I'm going to, first thing I'm going to do is turn on my fat secret app again, load my food in, track my steps and start monitoring where I'm at. Because what I want, if I really have a goal like that and a time frame, I want to make

the most moves in that, in the shortest period of time. Now, if I just want to live like I am right now, I'm not tracking anything. I'm not paying attention to that stuff. Everybody has intuition, but you have to train it to be correct first. Yeah, right. It's like, yeah, you gotta have correct intuition to be able to trust it.

And so the only way to do that is to do the work leading into that, which is the tracking part of it. So that's, I mean, that's really the ultimate that the peak of where you wanna get to within your nutrition plan for yourself, but definitely have to put the work in. Think about this, for a second. When you're at a point where you are eating intuitively,

that is a place of balance. Okay, so what does balance look like? Healthy, you're gonna be relatively lean, you're gonna have good muscle and good strength You're going to be able to enjoy food sometimes just for the taste of it But most of the time you're eating it because it's healthy But it's not a place of extremes So if I want to get shredded then I need to track right? That's a place of extreme because it's not balanced

I don't walk around at 6% body fat all the time because that's not my balance. My balance is around 10 to 12% body fat. When I eat intuitively, I'm always about, I'd say 9 to 12% body fat is where I can fall when I'm eating intuitively. If I want to get down to 6% body fat, I'm gonna have to track.

It's just there's nothing intuitive about it. My body doesn't want to be there, and I have to kind of push myself. If I want to get my body weight up really high and I want to get really, really strong and push, let's say I want to get my deadlift above 600 pounds, can I do that while eating intuitively? No, intuitively my body that's not a place of balance

for my body. That's the thing you need to understand. And so that's why I think intuitive eating is really important for people like competitors, because when you're pre-contest, yes, you're on a diet. But in between that, if you wanna just maintain your health, look, here's a deal, if you want longevity, if you wanna be fit and healthy forever,

the most of your time should be spent eating intuitively. You need to earn it first, number one, you need to get to the point where you can do that. And that's where you need to spend most of your time. But if you're trying to get down and get lean and do a bunch of different things with your body, you're gonna have to track. You're gonna have to know when to push

and when to pull back. It's like shooting a target a hundred yards away. And you have the option to use a scope or not use a scope. So you better have shot that gun a lot for a very long time if you're gonna try and shoot something that far away without your fucking scope.

Right, and somebody who hasn't done the work, cause here's the thing, first of all, most of us don't know what real hunger feels like. We have cravings, we don't have real hunger cause we've never gone without food for longer than six or eight hours, you know, when we're asleep, we don't have food, other than that, we have food every four hours, so we don't know what real hunger is.

So most of our associations with food revolve around, you know, context. It's breakfast time, it's lunch time, it's dinner time, or stress, or anxiety, or celebration. So our relationship to food is not something you want to, it's not something you can rely on being intuitive about. If I relied on my intuitive abilities, when I've never really worked on those abilities, my intuition's gonna tell me to eat fucking five burritos for lunch and have pizza for dinner and have some cake afterwards. You see what I'm saying?

So it takes time to get there and the way you get there is tracking, pay attention to how your body responds to certain foods, maybe the occasional use of fasting, depending on the individual, learning how to disconnect your emotions from food at times when like they're stressed out. Okay, I don't reach for food when I'm always stressed out. Let me figure out what's going on. It takes some time. But once you get there, the cool thing is now it's a very comfortable relaxing place to be and you're always and you're gonna be healthy because what ends up

happening with a lot of people is they stress about their food so much that it's a stress. It's not something that's relaxed. You talk to some of these people who track all the time or who are constantly counting every calorie and they've done it for years. Their nutrition is a source of stress in their lives and it shouldn't be, or at least that's not a way

you can live forever, that's impossible. Or maybe if it is, I feel sorry for you because it's a terrible way to live, that's where intuitive eating comes into play. But if you're trying to push your body, remember you're moving at a balance, that's going to require some careful calculation and tracking as part of that. By the way, you get our intuitive guide at mindplummedia.com. Next question is from CDT Young. What are your thoughts on protective gear, such as elbow or knee, wraps or sleeves? For me specifically, I've had an ACL and Mniskus tear and feel the compression really helps

when I get to my working sets for squatting. Okay, love it. You look serious as fuck when you wear all this stuff. So here's a good rule of thumb Unless you're a competitor And you're gonna be competing with these AIDS which in which case You need to practice training in them

If you're just trying to be fit and healthy Let your natural weakest link be the limiting factor for how much weight you use, okay? So if my low back can only handle me safely with good control, good stability, deadlift, 400 pounds, then adding an aid like a weight belt to get me up to 450 pounds, it's probably not the greatest idea of constantly working out the way. You greatly increase your risk by doing that. You do because I've now trying to get to modify my weakest link so that I can push my body

even harder and you're right, it increases your risk of injury. So, if you feel like your knee is not stable and wearing kneewraps has you squat more, my recommendation is let your knee be the limiting factor. That's what's going to tell you how much weight you can use. And slowly allow that to get stronger so that you can use more weight. Now here's the thing with knee wraps, okay? I've used them before. I went through a stint of using knee wraps because why they make you struggle to do, you lift more weight when you use knee wraps. If you ever used legit knee wraps, you're gonna add 30 pounds to your squat. It's the version of the slingshot for your squat.

Yeah, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same concept. The plastic energy. Yeah, our boys slingshot with Mark Bell slingshot for your bench press. It's a similar concept when you wrap knee wrap like that. That's what you're getting.

Right, and now here's what I felt. So I did it for about a year, and I think I got my squat over just over 400 pounds and I was so proud of my whatever, but I noticed that my knee caps started getting sore and here's a thing with joints, they're not all the same. So if you look at the knee joint, for example, and this really blew me away, when you look at the knee joint,

the patella kind of floats over the femur, and it runs, it kind of slides on a groove every time you flex and extend your knee. Well, if I'm adding a knee wrap and pushing my kneecap super hard onto that groove with weight, that doesn't sound like a good idea, it does it over time. Like I'm gonna wear the bottom of that kneecap out and potentially cause a problem like,

congemilation underneath my patella. And I noticed that. I noticed my knees actually started feeling worse. So I don't think these things protect like people think they do. They let you lift more weight, but I don't think they're protective. In some cases, they may actually be bad for your joints.

And unless you have, well, not unless, but I mean, it could be diagnosing yourself wrong too, because there's a, what's that called? And what's the, I don't know the actual name for, but we call it, we just call it jumpers knee. Oh, it's a weird name, Osh, long, short, more or less. We just call it jumpers knee.

What is it, Justin? Yeah, I think you're right, Osh. Yeah, I can We call it jumpers knee. What is it Justin? Yeah, I think you're right. Osh, yeah, I can't pronounce it. I can't pronounce it. Damn it. Don't even try to call it jumper knee. Braze, tendon, or whatever. Yeah, you get something like that.

And I do know that in weaselodders, you use log goters. When you wear like one of those pregrat, wraps around the knee and it pushes down on it, it does relieve a lot of the pain while you squat or jump or do movements like that. So if you're getting relief from that,

you may be self-diagnosing incorrectly and it could be something along those lines. And so where I would always refer you to a doctor and have that looked at and find out exactly what's going on. Yeah, you were talking about Patelor tendonitis. There's another term and I can't, Oshla got, I can't,

did you look at the dams? I don't know, I know that's true. I did, but it's not the same, it's not the same thing, and it's gonna kill me now. No, I know, you got it in my head too. Because I trained lots of clients with these types of issues.

I've had a few. And you can really help them a lot by working on hit mobility, ankle mobility, quadricep flexibility, makes a big difference. Well, yeah, and I just have to echo, because it is like when you start using these wraps and these things to try and maintain like a level of fitness that you've been identifying with.

So this is all goes back to identifying with like, my strength has always been these numbers this way, this like when you have like an injury a lot of times it's tough because it's going to take work for you to you know build yourself back up to that where everything stabilizing can support you properly in the kinetic chain like it used to. So you just I mean do the work it's going to pay off dividends down the road. I know it sucks to you know down, downgrade a bit, you know, in terms of like the weight that you're using,

but it's gonna be the best for your body in a day. I don't think a lot of people don't realize that some of these aids because it's allowing them to, oh, there you go. Oscar Schlauters. Oscar Schlauters, Oscar Schlauters, it is Schlauters, you see? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Yeah, we're, yeah, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, see? Yeah, yeah, all right. We're in. Excellent. What I was gonna say is a lot of people don't realize that using these tools that allow

them to lift more weight, oftentimes can actually set you up for more problems and worse problems in the future. So keep that in mind. And I know, look, I'm the same way we get caught up in the, damn, if I wear the knee wraps, I can lift 30 more pounds. It's ego talking. Yeah, you know, and that's what I want to do. And it's like, oftentimes it's not worth it.

Mm-hmm. Next question is from Erica in Texas. What advice do you have for mental blocks during a lift? I get in my own head on heavy squats and tend to site myself out of the lift. This I used to run to with sometimes the female clients where they were afraid to lift a heavy weight, especially overhead or with a squat.

And they'd be scared of hurting themselves or the weight, crushing them, not able to support it. Here's what I would recommend. First off, learn how to use the safeties on your squat rack. So set the safeties so that if you go to the bottom of your squat and you can't make it back up, you just set the weight down on the safeties. That's it. That alone would give people confidence because I used to show people I go pretend like you can't lift the weight in your safe. I love just just adding weight and like to the rack and then standing in it and

like getting comfortable and acclimating to heavier weight and then racking it back again. That's an old school technique right there. That's the first time I ever started squatting heavier weight, I was lifting, and this was like early 20s. And I was with a bunch of, you know, old school bodybuilder guys. And I was weakest fuck.

I think back then I could never squat more than 185. And I remember he's like, let's put three plates on. I'm like, I's put three plates on. I'm like, you're like, you're like, you're gonna kill me? Yeah, I can even do two plates. He's like, no, I just want your body to feel that type of way. And I was scared to death. I remember just unwrapping it, rack again,

my legs shaking and feeling, and he was there to spot me, make sure there. I didn't squat into anything, just unwrapped it, stepped back into the position, do it, re-racked it, did that enough times. And then before you knew it, when I put on two plates, I felt way more comfortable. So that's a really good strategy.

It is. Another thing too is to help you kind of get out of your own head. First off, set the safety like I said. So you know that you're safe. Get in there, get tight, and get angry. Sometimes getting angry makes a big damn difference. I still get intimidated sometimes by really, really heavy

lifts. It's not so much that I think I'm going to get buried by the way, but I'll think like, well, I don't want to hurt myself. In which case, I get tight and I get real mad. Now, is that a good, is that always a good thing? Maybe not. But I've noticed that, especially for female clients, and I don't know if it's because of the, you know, they're never, they weren't told the lift heavy or they were afraid of lifting heavy, but just giving, like I would have female clients who could dumbbell press the 20s, and I'd give them 15s and they'd freak out.

Oh, 15 pounds. I can't wanna do 15 pounds. It's so funny, you say that? Like I was so the guy that like every workout I had to hype myself up and get like in that angry state because I was always trying to crush it. Like every workout, like I had to like put Max effort out there and like so yeah, I mean it does.

I mean it pays off like if you can get into a certain you know mental state of mind or frame and you can replicate that and like have like a ritual going into like the heavier lifts, that is gonna help and get your CNS sort of prepped out. And here's the other thing, this is one thing that I found a lot with people who are afraid to lift heavy. And again, it was usually women that were in this category.

The growth that they would experience through the weights, not physical growth, but the emotional growth, the confidence that they would get. Because if I got a female client who's afraid to lift what looked like a big and heavy weight to her, and I got her to lift it, and then she got confident enough to challenge herself with weight, that feeling just emanated,

and you could see in the rest of life, they would walk around more confident taller. I had a woman tell me that the most empowering thing she ever did was get stronger with weights She's like when I got strong. She's like it made me feel just more capable more capable of putting my suitcase in the overhead Compartment yeah more capable of you know carrying more groceries and I just felt more confident in my body There's also something to be said about Enching up really slow like I know I remember like a bunch of idiot boys

We were when we used to lift it. We used to, you can't use fives and tents. You know, it was a quarter and plates. You weren't allowed to use five and tents. If you were squatting, benching, deadlifting, anything like that, it's like quarters and plates are the only thing that you can add. And that's just a stupid mentality.

And I think that, you know, whatever. Two and a half are wonderful for me. Right. There's obviously a weight you feel comfortable with. And there's a weight you don't. So adding two and a half's are wonderful for you. Right. Obviously, there's obviously a weight you feel comfortable with and there's a weight you don't. So adding, adding two and a half pounds on your side to the weight you're comfortable with and getting comfortable with that

and then adding two and a half every week like that until all's before you know it, you've added 20 to 25 pounds on each side and you're like, oh holy shit. So there's something to be said about that also and there's something to be said about dropping the reps. You know, even our programs, like I think the lowest rep range in any of them is five, right? Do we have anything lower than five? Only we call for maybe a, do we have a three set or a five

on one? Yeah, one to five. Yeah. When to five, you'll sometimes see where you could do like singles double. Right. So I would, I would have somebody drop down and, and reps. There's nothing wrong with I plan to do five. And that was what I went under, but then when I felt it, I'm moving it, I might only do three, and get used to it with only, and that's something I didn't do either. I didn't do a lot of singles, doubles, and triples, and part of what helped me inch my weight up was,

I used to only grab weight that I could get about five times, and that was it, and maybe I fell short one, or now I would start to push myself and be like, oh, maybe I'll only do two of these reps, or three of these reps. Next question from farmer pair. Have you ever thought you may have dealt with depression, but was never really sure. If so, what was it like for you?

How is it to work with and trained with people who are suffering from depression? Oh, wow. Yeah. Now, I do want to first off say that none of us are doctors or experts in depression But I can I can safely say that I think we've all dealt with it in one way or another because we're humans, right? And I've definitely trained people who have dealt with depression now personally for me I have felt true depression a couple of times.

Once was when I had a family member who was fighting cancer and it was a long battle and she eventually lost. That was a very difficult time. The other one was when I got divorced. That one was a bit difficult as well. The thing about depression that I found for me at least is it's hard to realize just how bad it is when you're in it.

I feel bad, but I'm pretty good at distracting myself or doing things that can make me feel better, like exercise or being with loved ones. It's hard for me to really realize it until I'm out of it. Once I come out of it, I look back at it, wow, I was really, I was really not feeling good. And for me, it feels like just a lack of zest. You know, I just didn't feel like anything really could make me feel super, super good. Exercise, though, has always been, during those two periods of my life, my workouts saved my life, always. I never stopped.

In fact, I'm probably more consistent when I'm feeling terrible because I know what a positive effect it has on me. As far as clients are concerned, I've had many clients whose emotional state changed dramatically over the course of the years of training them. I can think of several right now at the top of my head. I had one lady who came in who was just, she had some really bad chronic illnesses. Finally, you know, I kind of fought them and beat them, got divorced afterwards. Just had a whole string of terrible events. Then she came to hire me and was just mean. She was just a mean person.

She would just talk at me mean. She could tell she was very short, but I could tell that she was just mean. She was just a mean person. She would just talk at me mean. She could tell she was very short, but I could tell that she was just hurting. And so I started training her, and it was amazing the transformation. It took a while, but after, you know, over the course of the years of training, or I think I trained her for about three years, she became this just pleasant person,

and she would tell me she used to say, Sal, when I first came to see you, I was very dark and very depressed. And she goes and exercise lifted me out of it enough for me to be able to work on myself and improve my health in all aspects. And I've seen that time and time again. I'm not an expert on medication for depression or therapy, but the studies show that exercise and fitness, in fact, some professionals are trying to say that they want exercise to be frontline defense.

Which is exciting. Yeah, so like someone comes with mild to moderate forms of depression. Before giving them medication, they'll say, okay, I want you to start exercising first and let's see how that improves. Yeah, I remember having a conversation with my brothers, wife, so therapist. And I remember because one of my clients was suffering from severe depression. And I'm pretty sure was on medication.

But when she started working out with me, this is back when I was trying to structure like the full experience for clients to where we would go even like five day week type of schedules. And so what we do in between our actual resistance training days is I would go with her, like on these hikes in Las Gattas and we go out there in the sun and we go in these like slow hikes and we just get in, you know, excess amount of activity that was like more recuperative for that day and do some mobility in between.

And just like that alone, and then also just talking and conversing and having somebody listen, between the combo of all those things, I was like, wow, it was amazing to see like traces of mood change. And I was talking to, because I was talking to my brother's wife about it,

and she was like, that's really interesting because she had similar anecdotes from some of her patients that, you know, we're applying like more cardiovascular work and then we're getting into weight training as well. Yeah, from what I'm familiar with, the two natural things that positively affect depression the most that are natural, that you can do our exercise properly, excuse me, three things, exercise properly, get good sleep, but sometimes that's not an issue. Oftentimes, people depression sleep too much.

Right. And the third thing is sunshine. Those three things that I've read studies on seem to have the best positive effects. I would say strength train and sun. So because one of the things about, you gotta be careful with somebody with depression Studies on seem to have the best positive effects. I would say strength train and sun. So because one of the things about, you gotta be careful with somebody with depression

and that's down like that and then hammering them in like a circuit base type of training. So, or punishment. Yeah, so, and this is also speaking from experience, right? So I've personally I've dealt with depression twice in my life. One time I didn't know I was, the second time I was ready for it. The first time happened when I short-sold my house.

I bought my house early when I was 22 and it was a very big deal for me. Coming from not having much growing up or most people listen to show, no, my story, it was a big deal for me to have a perfect credit score, to be able to afford a house, to that was a major, major accomplishment for me. And I had the house for over eight years when we went through the whole dip with the economy and my house at one point was basically upside down $100,000. And I was still okay financially, but my buddy at that time who was into real estate told me

he goes, you know, it would be smart for you right now why everybody is getting homes foreclosed on to short sell this, walk away from it, get out of this loan, save your cash, and then take the ding on your credit, then let it rebound, and then be in a different position three to five years later. And I struggled with that for a really long time, and I finally let him get convinced me that it was the smart strategy to do. And it was, it really was.

It was the smart move, for sure. I ended up saving a bunch of money, and it was the right thing to do. But I went through this bout of depression for probably somewhere between six months and maybe even a year that I just was not myself. And I didn't like you to your point, so I didn't know that I was in it while I was in it. I just looking back and thinking about how dark that time was for me, just how much I wasn't

taking care of myself physically, where my relationships were, my attitude, the type of negative shit that was happening in my life. Like, it was just a really kind of bad time. And after the fact, I realized what it really came from and it was because I really identified with that person. I really identified with my credit score. You know, I really identified with being this person who made it and was successful.

And that really fucked with me when that went made it and was successful and that really fucked with me when that went away and that got stripped from me. And so that was my first experience of that. And I had fallen off of exercise, I had fallen off a lot of things. And the second time, which was even a harder bout of depression to battle, but at least this time, I went in kind of knowing or recognizing it before it hit all the way was just recently. It was not long ago on the podcast when I've shared some of this journey was when I came

off a testosterone. For four years consistently I was taking high doses of testosterone. I was on a therapeutic dose before that, which was very mild, and that really didn't was a big deal to me. But when I started competing, and I started ramping the doses up, and got to a point at the professional level where I was taking 500 milligrams of testosterone a week, and doing that consistently month in, month out for years,

for four years, and then coming off of that, man, that just, that I had never felt like that before where I just didn't want to work out. I didn't want to do anything. And then on top of that, I was like, I knew I was feeling that way. I thought, okay, I need to find things that I love and that I'm passionate about. And one of those things is basketball. And so I decided to go down.

I was like, I couldn't get the motivation to even work out. So I was like, okay, I know exercise is important. While I'm going through this, I can't seem to muster up the energy to go lift weights. So let me go, you know, exercise through playing ball. I love playing ball. And it was the second time that I was at the gym playing ball and having an incredible game, feeling great.

And I tore my Achilles. And that was just like the fucking straw that broke the camel's back for me. It was, I could not believe that happened to me. And I remember like looking up into the sky, you know, those moments in your life where you're just like, what are you trying to tell me? God, what is this? And you know, at that point, this is when I started to really dive back into listening to music and I started to read more again. And that really kind of helped pull me out. And so the advice that I give to people that are in moments like this or have felt this

is to latch on to the things that make you really happy. And that could be family for you. It could be music like me. It could be snowboarding. It could be basketball. It could be some forms of entertainment, but things that you can control. I couldn't control my, not instantly my hormone levels.

I was going to have to go through this rough patch. It was inevitable what I had done to myself hormonally. I could get all the sunlight in the world, exercise, and I wasn't going to all of a sudden just rebound and be back to high testosterone levels. It was, I was gonna have to go through this thing, or I was gonna have to give back in and say, fuck it, I'm gonna get back on testosterone so I don't feel this way. And that was really, really hard for me to do that. I mean, every, I had the stack ready to go, always like it, and I was always thinking, like,

fuck this, like, this is getting so hard, I just wanna take a shot of testosterone and feel back to normal again. And I didn't. And this lasted for almost a year working through the on the podcast. And the things that got me out of that was reading and music for me because I could no longer play sports. So when you, if you're somebody that's listening and that's potentially you, the advice aside from what the boys are saying right now with I think is true, sun, exercise, those things are extremely important. But latch on to the things that make you happy.

Latch on to the things that you find joy in that you can control and bury yourself into those things. What do that be? Reading in music or sports or whatever it may be. I had to dig deep back into childhood stuff. When I was in high school, I was heavy into music. And as I got older, I kind of like whatever about it, I didn't care and I got busy and cared more about money

and work and shit like that. And so I started revisiting things like that that gave me joy and filled my cup. So look for those things that, and they may be deep and a long time ago that fill your cup and focus on that that helped a lot. Excellent. Go to mindpumpfree.com and download our guides. They're all absolutely free. You can also find us all on Instagram. You can find Adam at Mind Pump Adam, Justin at Mind Pump Justin

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